[00:09] <tarpman> teward: there's a thunderbird plugin called "Mail Redirect"
[00:58] <Avenged3> !ops | permaban HFSPLUS
[00:59] <teward> tarpman: thank you
[01:27] <diytto> howdy, does anyone know of a good openvpn server that is free/open source?
[01:28] <diytto> i tried using softether, but am unable to get it to work reliably
[01:29] <diytto> also, is it possible to resize my root partition? it takes up 1TB of space of my 3TB
[01:30] <RoyK> parted, perhaps?
[01:30] <RoyK> diytto: what does lsblk have to say?
[01:33] <diytto> sorry, didn't get a ping
[01:33] <diytto> one moment
[01:34] <diytto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11705476/
[01:34] <teward> apparently I can't sleep.
[01:34] <teward> sarnold: i can bounce it to ya if you haven't gotten it yet
[01:36] <diytto> RoyK: see above link
[01:37] <RoyK> diytto: I'd suggest a reinstall - if it's ext4 on the root partition, you can reduce it, but it'll have to be offline, so on a live cd of sorts, then you can reduce the size of the lv and add the space to the data
[01:37] <diytto> well that sucks
[01:37] <RoyK> diytto: if you haven't done this before, better reinstall, or at least, make sure you have a good backup
[01:38] <RoyK> I've done this in the lab, it works
[01:38] <RoyK> but keep in mind that data loss may occur
[01:38] <RoyK> if you do something stupid
[01:38] <diytto> it's a remote server and i have no physical access
[01:38] <diytto> unfortunately
[01:38] <RoyK> 1TB for the root is a bit over the edge
[01:38] <diytto> RoyK: i would be willing to disable RAID and use that as a backup if that's possible
[01:39] <RoyK> I wouldn't recommend it
[01:39] <diytto> alright
[01:39] <RoyK> I've been working with storage long enough not to trust a single drive
[01:39] <diytto> yeah
[01:40] <diytto> well i suppose i will have to wait until i can get another server
[01:40] <RoyK> do you have console access to the thing?
[01:40] <diytto> yeah
[01:40] <diytto> i have full root access
[01:40] <diytto> if that's what you mean
[01:40] <RoyK> console?
[01:40] <RoyK> as in, can you see the boot screen and boot it into single without networking enabled?
[01:40] <diytto> what do you mean by console
[01:41] <diytto> not that I'm aware of
[01:41] <diytto> i can take another look
[01:41] <RoyK> you can reduce the size of ext4, but only if the filesystem isn't mounted
[01:42] <RoyK> if it's xfs, no way
[01:42] <diytto> yeah i don't believe i have any kind of console
[01:42] <diytto> it's a server from hetzner server auction
[01:42] <RoyK> bad news for you, then
[01:44] <RoyK> diytto: what you could do, if you're nasty, is to dd if=/dev/zero of=somewhere and make av pv on that
[01:44] <RoyK> and add that and extend the vg
[01:44] <RoyK> nasty business
[01:44] <diytto> I'm not really looking to take any risks here :p
[01:44] <diytto> wouldn't want to lost my 2TB of data
[01:45] <RoyK> do you have a backup?
[01:45] <diytto> not necessarily
[01:45] <diytto> it's in RAID1 (not that that counts) but there is no exact copy
[01:45] <RoyK> I've been through this with a few people that have lost data
[01:46] <RoyK> WHY ON EARTH DIDN'T YOU HAVE A BACKUP????????
[01:46] <RoyK> several cloud services exist
[01:46] <RoyK> such as crashplan
[01:46] <diytto> it's not exactly the most important data on earth
[01:46] <diytto> this server is primarily a seedbox
[01:47] <RoyK> is it important enoough to pay $5 a month_
[01:47] <RoyK> ?
[01:47] <diytto> really that's all?
[01:47] <diytto> i could do that
[01:48] <RoyK> that's what crashplan charges for a year term
[01:48] <diytto> wow that's impressive
[01:49] <diytto> and i can set it up without a gui access
[01:50] <RoyK> $5 per month, that is
[01:50] <RoyK> and yes, remote X works well
[01:51] <diytto> hmm
[01:51] <RoyK> I guess you have some sort of GUI on your desktop ;)
[01:51] <RoyK> not many left of the lynx people
[01:53] <diytto> i use os x on my personal computer
[01:53] <RoyK> which supports X
[01:53] <diytto> yeah
[01:53] <RoyK> I use OS X myself
[01:53] <diytto> how would i set up crashplan with the server
[01:54] <RoyK> install the thing
[01:54] <RoyK> start it
[01:55] <RoyK> connect to your account
[01:57] <RoyK> I use a Norwegian firm reselling crashplan - costs a bit more, but outside of NSAs work and a lot faster
[01:57] <RoyK> crashplan is a bit slow at times - probably depends where your server sits, though
[02:00] <diytto> RoyK: does it matter if it's home or business
[02:00] <RoyK> don't think so
[02:00] <diytto> ok
[02:01] <RoyK> where are you located?
[02:04] <diytto> RoyK: i am in the US, server is in Germany
[02:05] <teward> what's the oldest ubuntu server edition that has Landscape support? 12.04 currently?
[02:05] <diytto> RoyK: if i order this now would you be available to help me set it up? :p
[02:16] <RoyK> diytto: you should be able to do it yourself rather instantly
[02:17] <RoyK> diytto: and last I checked, crashplan.com's servers were in the US, but that might have changed for all I know
[02:17] <diytto> RoyK: they appear to have a remote ui
[02:18] <RoyK> diytto: both
[02:19] <RoyK> I haven't used the web thing much - perhaps it has more now
[02:33] <diytto> RoyK: i can use my dektop ui to access the remote engine
[02:33] <diytto> kinda neat actually
[02:33] <diytto> it uses ssh tunnel
[02:33] <RoyK> ssh tunnels are neat
[02:34] <diytto> do you think it's fine to literally just backup /
[02:35] <RoyK> just get a backup of your data before you try to mess around with partitions
[02:35] <diytto> alright easy enough
[02:36] <RoyK> or try anything, really
[02:39] <diytto> okay it's running
[02:40] <diytto> i am backing up my apache configs and my webserver data
[02:40] <diytto> as well as home directories
[02:47] <diytto> nice, it's uploading files at like 20Mb/s
[02:49] <RoyK> that's nice
[02:49] <RoyK> just turn off deduplication on that client
[02:49] <RoyK> google it
[03:06] <diytto> RoyK: i did it and it didn't help at all lol
[04:24] <sarnold> teward: woo, thanks for the bounce! I never did get mutt to handle that mail as an mbox. sometimes mutt drives me up the wall. I hope you finally got to sleep..
[04:38] <diytto> Does anyone have a good alternative to the OpenVPN server? I'm looking for something without licensing fees
[04:39] <TJ-> openvpn doesn't have license fees... what kind of alternative do you want?
[04:39] <sarnold> diytto: when I reviewed the strongswan code I liked what I saw; but it's more complicated to configure
[04:40] <diytto> TJ-: it does if you want more than 2 clients
[04:40] <diytto> sarnold: I'll take a look
[04:42] <TJ-> diytto: openvpn is licensed with GNU GPL v2
[04:42] <sarnold> I've never heard of license fees for openvpn; are you perchance confusing a specific service provider that uses openvpn with the openvpn packages?
[04:42] <diytto> https://openvpn.net/index.php/access-server/pricing.html
[04:42] <TJ-> sarnold: I think so
[04:43] <diytto> maybe
[04:43] <TJ-> diytto: I've been using openvpn server for a decade; it is GNU GPL v2 licensed
[04:43] <diytto> where the heck do i go to get a copy that doesn't use a licensing system then
[04:44] <TJ-> diytto: "sudo apt-get install openvpn"
[04:44] <diytto> what's the difference between the package and the version from openvpn.net
[04:45] <diytto> are they not from the same team?
[04:45] <sarnold> ask them why it's worth $90/year to find out? :)
[04:45] <sarnold> my guess is this bit here, "enterprise management capabilities"
[04:45] <sarnold> wtf that is :)
[04:46] <diytto> :|
[04:46] <diytto> okay, well this should hopefully solve my issues then lol
[04:46] <TJ-> sarnold: probably a pretty wrapper around generating the configuration files
[04:46] <sarnold> TJ-: it also lookslike they've got an embedded polarssl of some sort. I like polarssl, but it seems odd to embed it..
[04:47] <sarnold> and openssl too! neat. two ssl libraries for twice the fun.
[04:47] <sarnold> I wonder h ow they squared the gpl2 vs openssl SLEay license.
[04:48] <TJ-> diytto: Looks like the company is trying to steer users to pay, they hide the open-source page of their site very well. I got to it via the Wikipedia article: https://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source.html
[04:48] <diytto> wow okay
[04:48] <diytto> that's ridiculous
[04:48] <sarnold> I really don't blame them for trying to figure out a way to make a living from it; but it feels like they would do themselves a service by better reporting what the licenses buy.
[04:49] <TJ-> diytto: but if you're using Ubuntu, always use the packages from the package manager using the command I showed you.
[04:49] <diytto> yeah for sure
[04:49] <TJ-> sarnold: I agree entirely ... especially when they talk about a 2-client 'evaluation' version
[04:49] <diytto> okay, so i was using softether for vpn and it seemed like a good solution, except it didn't work well on my connection
[04:50] <sarnold> TJ-: hehe yeah
[04:50] <diytto> how can i remove it as a service
[04:50] <diytto> :p
[04:50] <TJ-> diytto: DIY :p
[04:50] <sarnold> they probably installed initscripts into /etc/init.d/ or /etc/init/
[04:51] <TJ-> diytto: It depends on how you installed it and what tools are provided to remove it
[04:51] <diytto> yeah, but i assume i need to change the service so it doesn't start on boot?
[04:51] <sarnold> if you're lucky they've got an uninstall somewhere :)
[04:51] <diytto> i know where the script is etc
[04:51] <sarnold> if you're not lucky you just get to rm -rf everything.
[04:51] <diytto> i know the locations and where to delete, just not how to deactive the boot setting
[04:52] <TJ-> diytto: does it start using upstart or sysv-init ?
[04:52] <diytto> something with update-rc.d?
[04:52] <TJ-> diytto: Yes, for sysv-init
[04:52] <diytto> yeah so that one :p
[04:52] <TJ-> diytto: for upstart, add a .override file with the "manual" option in it
[04:53] <diytto> um
[04:53] <diytto> i don't know what any of that means lol
[04:54] <TJ-> diytto: You don't need to if the service uses sysv-init
[04:54] <diytto> oh, gotcha
[04:59] <diytto> alright, time to figure out how to configure openvpn :D
[05:01] <TJ-> diytto: some good help here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[05:01] <diytto> awesome
[05:03] <TJ-> diytto: first task is to generate your CA cert *but* I highly recommend doing that on a PC other than the server you're going to use it on
[05:03] <diytto> why is that
[05:03] <TJ-> diytto: I keep a separate secure VM image for doing that
[05:04] <TJ-> diytto: because if the server is compromised someone can steal the CA private key and then generate certificates using it
[05:05] <diytto> hmm that's a fair point
[08:53] <linocisco> anybody with small fonts on ubuntu server console CLI ?
[10:00] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:38] <wizzkidd> I've noticed that services such as couchpotato and sickbeard etc do not use an apache web server, hence why we can clone from their git, setup the configuration, and execute the website.py with python, and then magically i'd have a website running locally on my custom port.  How can I create my own little website in a similar way so that i can share it on my git repo?
[13:11] <Kartagis> hi
[13:11] <Kartagis> suppose I modified my zone, but didn't restart named. how long will it take to propagate (correct spelling?)? $TTL seconds?
[13:39] <YamakasY> which version will be the next lts ?
[13:40] <genii> YamakasY: All even numbered releases ending in .04
[13:40] <lordievader> YamakasY: I thought 16.04.
[13:41] <genii> Every two years in April
[13:41] <YamakasY> ok
[13:41] <YamakasY> thanks guys
[13:41] <YamakasY> yes now I see indeed
[13:42] <YamakasY> mhh I need sssd v1.12.2+
[13:44] <YamakasY> we need lts for servers, I don't run shortterms anymore
[13:44] <YamakasY> :S
[13:46] <lordievader> You could theoretically pull just that one package from a newer release (you might very well run into dependency problems though).
[13:46] <YamakasY> lordievader: yeah that is my issue, the package is in sid now
[13:56] <friendlyguy> hi there!
[13:58] <friendlyguy> some zfs users here? I've configure some smbshares through "sharesmb=on", which worked fine. but after a reboot they are "gone".
[13:59] <friendlyguy> zfs get sharesmb still reports its turned on but when i try to connect there is nothing shared
[15:27] <friendlyguy> can someone help me to get my ipmi interface working with ubuntu? -> i can follow the boot process via ipmi until i select ubuntu, after that the screen turns blank and i get "no signal" msg
[17:31] <LeMike> damn this ssh installation. it want's me to mount a system partition that is already used by the system under /dev/mapper/system.... . how can I go on installing ubunut via SSH?
[17:42] <lordievader> LeMike: What do you mean exactly? Something like a debootstrap install?
[19:14] <pipitone> Hi. I've got NFS clients with occasional failing mounts ("Operation not permitted" on ls). dmesg shows piles of "NFS: Server tigrsrv reports our clientid is in use" and "NFS: state manager: lease expired failed on NFSv4 server tigrsrv with error 1" messages. Restart the NFS server/portmap works. Ubuntu 14.04. Any ideas why?
[19:16] <pipitone> Also, remount without restarting the NFS server doesn't work ("operation not permitted"). If I wait long enough, the remounting on the client *eventually* is successful.
[19:22] <cryptodan_laptop> pipitone: you need to setup up persistence and also look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo I have used that guide with no issues
[19:32] <diytto> does anyone here have experience with openvpn? I'm trying to figure out how to generate my client.ovpn files
[19:40] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: what do you mean by persistence in this case? I followed the very guide when I setup NFS. It's been running for a long while just fine. I'm starting to suspect recent updates, but not sure what these errors mean. Have you seen them before?
[19:42] <cryptodan_laptop> yes and usually means that IP addresses are changing and losing the connection states are the nfs servers on static?
[19:42] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: yup, server and clients are static.
[19:43] <cryptodan_laptop> pipitone: check the connection time outs and see if they are timing out
[19:44] <cryptodan_laptop> can you show your exports config
[19:48] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: I don't see anything in the nfs server syslog/kern/dmesg to do with NFS or time outs
[19:48] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: exports here: http://pastebin.com/xSZcACp5
[19:50] <cryptodan_laptop> pipitone: I would comment out line 12 and see if that changes things
[19:50] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: curious, how come? I thought NFS4 needed an fsid root?
[19:51] <cryptodan_laptop> pipitone: I dont have that and dont have timeouts or operation not permitted
[19:51] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: are your mounts nfsv3?
[19:51] <cryptodan_laptop> nfs4
[19:52] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: weird. okay, worth a shot. Since the problem is intermittant, and I can't reproduce it, I'll have to report back later.
[19:52] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: thanks for your help. btw, can I see your exports?
[19:53] <cryptodan_laptop> here /home/cryptodan/public_html 192.168.1.0/24(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,sync)
[19:53] <pipitone> k
[19:54] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: NFS is v. strange.
[20:41] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: can you should me what your fstab looks like? for your public_html mount?
[20:42] <cryptodan_laptop> im not on my desktop but let me generate it for my lap top
[20:42] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: the ubuntu NFS guide does still say to use fsid, but then I just came across this: http://serverfault.com/questions/389189/understanding-nfs4-linux-server  which suggests that fsid isn't necessary, as you say.
[20:42] <pipitone> It still doesn't explain why this behaviour just started up in the last week or so for us.
[20:43] <cryptodan_laptop> I just follow this nfs-server:/   /mnt   nfs    auto  0  0
[20:44] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: so you don't use nfs4 explicitly... interesting
[20:45] <pipitone> cryptodan_laptop: and under /mnt/ do you get public_html? or /home/cryptodan/public_html?
[20:47] <cryptodan_laptop> I put /home/cryptodan/public_html
[20:49] <cryptodan_laptop> pipitone: here is my mount print out 192.168.1.8:/home/cryptodan/public_html on /home/cryptodan/public_html type nfs (rw,vers=4,addr=192.168.1.8,clientaddr=192.168.1.14)
[20:57] <cryptodan_laptop> pipitone: can you show me your fstab
[20:59] <pipitone> tigrsrv:/projects /projects  nfs4    rw,bg,hard,intr
[21:00] <pipitone> so my mount output is: tigrsrv:/projects on /projects type nfs4 (rw,bg,hard,intr,addr=172.25.9.71,clientaddr=172.25.9.70)
[21:05] <cryptodan_laptop> try just using the auto in fstab and see if you get the time outs
[21:05] <cryptodan_laptop> or not using a name but the IP address