[03:38] <Kilos> Fetched 150 MB in 2min 44s (916 kB/s) 
[03:39] <Kilos> morning all
[03:39] <Kilos> later
[04:01] <Kilos> hmm...
[04:02] <Kilos> updated/upgraded 3 drives and everyone still sleeping
[04:02] <Kilos> enjoy, its cold out here
[06:12] <MaNI> heh
[06:12] <Kilos> hi
[06:14] <MaNI> hi
[06:17] <MaNI> http://www.freedomwon.co.za/freedomcorprice.html < curious it's like a local powerwall except with terrible branding
[06:18] <Kilos> i see mercedes is also bringing them to za
[06:21] <MaNI> too bad there don't seem to be local LiFePo4 manufacturers, looking at overseas prices those seem to be the currently best option
[06:43] <Kilos> sigh they all expensive
[07:13] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[07:13] <Tonberry> hi
[07:37] <MaNI> yeah
[07:37] <MaNI> batteries ruin everything :p
[08:35] <MaNI> sheesh when its not eskom its telkom
[08:41] <Kilos> what now
[08:44] <MaNI> no idea - adsl is dead, I've switched to my backup internet
[08:44] <Kilos> my net is getting faster
[08:44] <Kilos> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4429468074
[08:44] <MaNI> it makes me sad that I actually have a backup internet, seems I need backup everything
[08:44] <Kilos> whats your backupr interne
[08:44] <Kilos> t
[08:45] <MaNI> I have a link to a local wifi provider that I use as backup
[08:45] <MaNI> it's pay per gig so I have to behave while I'm on it
[08:48] <Kilos> oh my, but good to have the option at least
[08:49] <MaNI> yeah
[09:39] <Kilos> oh my, kde even has a bazaar explorer
[16:58] <inetpro> wb barrydk
[17:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:46] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[17:46] <inetpro> what's wrong?
[17:47] <Kilos> ty inetpro  nothing, i was expecting load shedding and it didnt happen
[17:50] <inetpro> Kilos: follow @Eskom_SA on twitter
[17:50] <Kilos> hi monkeyjoe  
[17:50] <Kilos> oh Squish102
[17:51] <inetpro> there was no loadshedding today
[17:51] <Kilos> ty inetpro   will ask you to remind me tomorrow again
[17:51] <inetpro> Kilos: do it now
[17:51] <Kilos> i got no browser open
[17:51] <inetpro> ai!
[17:51] <Kilos> sigh
[17:52] <inetpro> open it
[17:52] <Kilos> ok ok
[17:52] <inetpro> unless you don't want to
[17:52] <inetpro> I mean, it's kinda useless to follow them if you don't use your browser
[17:53] <Kilos> just today man , i have 20 sites open everytime
[17:53] <Kilos> but ill use epiphany
[17:56] <inetpro> if only twitter allowed us to read tweets with rss feeds we could get Maaz to poll and keep us up to date right here
[17:57] <barrydk> hi kilos, inetpro
[17:57] <Kilos> hi barrydk  
[17:57] <inetpro> barrydk: nice to see you here for a change
[17:57] <Kilos> ya that could hlp inetpro  
[17:58] <monkeyjoe> hmm need to change nick on freenode
[17:58] <barrydk> playing a bit of minetest 
[17:59] <squish102> barrydk: how does that compare to minecraft?
[18:00] <Kilos> i been reading lots of stuff about google and the nsa and all that stuff, now i trying duckduckgo as a search engine
[18:00] <inetpro> join #minetest-za to chat with other za players
[18:02] <barrydk> Dont know minecraft, look around for Mazal he got both, all i know is if you start it it's hard to stop
[18:02] <squish102> Kilos: i've tried a few search engines... most are disappointing
[18:02] <Kilos> yes goodle is the most sophysticated and efficient
[18:03] <squish102> other than the big ones and they all selling your information in some way
[18:04] <Kilos> i like opera browser but 20 tabs open then i start reading one and forget why i actually opened the browser
[18:06] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[18:07] <Kilos> what
[18:07] <inetpro> still haven't learned to use Trello?
[18:07] <Kilos> ai!
[18:07] <Kilos> its open every day man
[18:08] <Kilos> nothing new happened there for weeks
[18:08] <inetpro> you want to research something, create a card and add relevant links to the card, then close relevant tabs on teh browser and move on to the next
[18:09] <Kilos> nono man peeps will think im nuts
[18:09] <inetpro> and then you can revisit a topic at any time
[18:09] <inetpro> Kilos: you do not have to share it with us
[18:09] <inetpro> create your own board
[18:09] <inetpro> or create a family board even
[18:09] <Kilos> i dont mind sharing
[18:09] <Kilos> but theres too much evil out there
[18:10] <inetpro> Kilos: you can even do like superfly and create your own public board
[18:10] <Kilos> lol
[18:10] <Kilos> yaya
[18:11] <inetpro> or make it private and share only with those you trust around you
[18:12] <inetpro> it's not rocket science
[18:12] <Kilos> yes it is man
[18:12] <Kilos> i dont mind sharing , but even here peeps will thing im coocoo
[18:13] <Kilos> lol i even read about the lizard peeps
[18:14] <Kilos> http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_internetgoogle.htm#Additional_Information
[18:15] <Kilos> and i saw a ubuntu netbook or something with only a 10 inch screen thats supposed to be available here
[18:15] <Kilos> R1499
[18:39] <inetpro> Kilos: maybe we just need to find a new twitter bot
[18:39] <inetpro> one that only reads tweets
[18:39] <Kilos> lol
[18:40] <Kilos> then you dont see some home made butternut soup and Futurama on Netflix.
[18:40] <inetpro> ibid needs some updaring
[18:40] <inetpro> ipdating as well
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:41] <Kilos> updating
[18:41] <inetpro> ai!
[18:41] <inetpro> I see there are ways to make rss feeds from twitter
[18:41] <inetpro> eg: https://twitrss.me/twitter_user_to_rss/?user=Eskom_SA
[18:41] <inetpro> but ibid fails to read that
[18:42] <Kilos> well thats a job for someone that can read the code
[18:42] <Kilos> and edit it i suppose
[18:45] <Kilos> grab grumbles
[18:45] <Kilos> he hates coding but he is good at it
[18:45] <smile> bye :)
[18:45] <Kilos> toods smile
[18:45] <Kilos> sleep tight lad
[18:46] <smile> don't forget to check out my cool new addon! :D
[18:46] <smile> https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/translate-now/
[18:46] <Kilos> sorry i didnt even see you here
[18:46] <smile> I was working on that stuff :D
[18:46] <Kilos> nono i dont use fox
[18:46] <smile> Kilos: just send it to people who use Fox :D
[18:47] <Kilos> they will see it here
[18:47] <smile> not sure :D
[18:47] <smile> good night
[18:47] <Kilos> night lad
[18:55] <inetpro> ooh! nice addon
[18:55]  * inetpro likes it
[18:55] <Kilos> he is clever that lad
[18:59] <Kilos> inetpro  i forgot the command thing to follow on tweet place is it /follow Eskom_sa
[18:59] <inetpro> what command thing?
[18:59] <Kilos> to follow from text mode man
[19:00] <inetpro> you mean on pidgin?
[19:00] <Kilos> i remember follow and unfollow
[19:00] <Kilos> no twitter
[19:00] <Kilos> via browser
[19:00] <inetpro> you have twitter on cli?
[19:00] <inetpro> ai!
[19:00] <Kilos> nope to cli
[19:01]  * inetpro is lost
[19:01] <inetpro> on the browser you just click follow
[19:01] <Kilos> when i first started using it i typed in follow and unfollow but forget how
[19:02] <Kilos> i dont see them so where do i tick follow
[19:02] <inetpro> Kilos: can you give me a screenshot please
[19:04] <inetpro> when you started with twitter it was still very open and accessible from many applications
[19:04] <inetpro> and it was also open for abuse
[19:04] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/1ckNwED2.png
[19:05] <inetpro> ai!
[19:05] <inetpro> Kilos: go to https://twitter.com/Eskom_SA
[19:05] <Kilos> ok
[19:05] <Kilos> ty
[19:06] <Kilos> yay ty i found follow button
[19:07] <inetpro> no commands really, just click
[19:08] <Kilos> i remember typing in follow and unfollow but have no idea how i opened it back then
[19:08] <Kilos> not serious
[19:10] <inetpro> Kilos: what happened to your friend 009?
[19:10] <Kilos> zero?
[19:10] <Kilos> he ran out of data again looks like
[19:10] <Kilos> shame
[19:10] <inetpro> ai!
[19:21] <Kilos> ai! inetpro  useless following eskom man
[19:22] <Kilos> tswane does their own thing
[19:24] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[19:24] <Kilos> ?
[19:25] <inetpro> it all starts and ends with eskom 
[19:25] <Kilos> yes man but the tswane peeps decide which areas around here go off when
[19:26] <inetpro> yes but if there's enough power then tshwane don't do the shedding
[19:26] <Kilos> eskom just tells them save so mauch at such a time
[19:27] <inetpro> Kilos: I never said you can see with this when they cut oom Kilos' farm from the grid
[19:27] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:27] <Kilos> well thats what is important to me
[19:28] <Kilos> even this buurt wag dont understand tswane schedule
[19:28] <Kilos> noyhing fits in with what they publish
[19:28] <Kilos> nothing
[19:28]  * inetpro disagrees
[19:28] <Kilos> sigh
[19:30] <Kilos> wb Cryterion`hiding  
[19:31] <Kilos> i go make a hot water bottle and go to bed
[19:31] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[19:33] <magespawn> good evening
[19:35] <inetpro> wb magespawn
[19:36] <Cryterion> hmm, that's looks better
[19:36] <inetpro> wb Cryterion
[19:36] <Cryterion> tks Kilos
[19:37] <Cryterion> and inetpro
[19:37] <inetpro> Cryterion: he's gone
[19:37] <Cryterion> xchat fighting me
[19:37] <Cryterion> hmm, hadn't read further
[19:39] <inetpro> Cryterion: fight back and win
[19:40] <magespawn> Cryterion: xchat? on windows?
[19:41] <magespawn> is kilos on load shedding?
[19:41] <inetpro> magespawn: no
[19:42] <magespawn> ahh well thats good, probably just tired and cold then
[19:42] <inetpro> yep, looks like it
[19:43] <inetpro> oh and it looks like he's disappointed that he didn't get loadshedded this afternoon
[19:45] <magespawn> disappointed? that does not make sense really
[19:45] <magespawn> i thought most people would be happy
[19:47] <inetpro> exactly... but seems to me the city of Tshwane change in schedules has a very long tail
[19:48] <inetpro> many people still don't get it that things have changed
[19:48] <magespawn> the uncertainty can be more of a problem for some
[19:49] <inetpro> and just when they think they figured it out there's no loadshedding at all to start with
[19:51] <magespawn> you can't refer straight to the eskom website?
[19:54] <inetpro> magespawn: the best starting place is probably http://loadshedding.eskom.co.za/
[19:55] <inetpro> but I find following @Eskom_SA quite useful
[19:55] <inetpro> have it set to notify me on my mobile whenever there's a tweet
[19:59] <magespawn> apparently there is a load sheeding app that is quite good
[19:59] <magespawn> shedding too
[19:59] <MaNI> I've heard people say that the gridwatch ap is decent, and others that 'eskom se push' is great
[20:00] <magespawn> i think gridwatch is the one i was told about
[20:16] <georgelappies> hi all
[20:17] <smile> Hi :)
[20:21] <magespawn> hi smile georgelappies 
[20:21]  * inetpro installed gridwatch 
[20:21] <inetpro> thanks magespawn
[20:21] <smile> Hi georgelappies 
[20:23] <smile> I count on you for spreading the word about Translate Now: http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/translate-now
[20:23] <smile> :-D
[20:24] <smile> My first ever restartless addon :)
[20:28] <inetpro> smile: nice one, thanks 
[20:28] <inetpro> could be very useful
[20:29] <inetpro> simple and easy to use
[20:30] <smile> It is. Its based on the concept of an earlier addon but that one doesnt really work well. You cant configure the languages over there
[20:30] <smile> Made in one day! :)
[20:31] <smile> Please spread the word
[20:37] <magespawn> nice smile
[20:39] <magespawn> what is the difference between an app that needs to be restarted and one that doesn't? besides the obvious
[20:40] <smile> A restartless one can be sandboxed, one with restart is easier to make and can be well integrated.
[20:41] <smile> Restartless extensions are cool but face a lot of security restrictions
[20:41] <magespawn> i see, so the restartless one is better for the user
[20:43] <smile> In theory. If they miss handy features because of security restrictions I begin to doubt that though ;-)
[20:44] <smile> Also, restartless extensions have a better testing framework
[20:44] <magespawn> cool thanks
[20:45] <smile> It would be nice if you could have the benefits of both methods.
[20:47] <smile> Restartless extensions are the best option for new development of course if you do not need hard stuff like shortcut keys
[20:48] <inetpro> good night everyone
[20:50] <smile> Night! :)
[20:53] <magespawn> thanks for the link smile
[20:54] <smile> Yw
[20:54] <magespawn> i am off to bed too, good night all
[21:48] <smile> Slaapwel :)
[21:49] <Cryterion> night