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| Kilos | morning all | 07:17 |
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| Cryterion | morning | 07:18 |
| Kilos | ha not hiding today | 07:18 |
| Cryterion | lol. on phone atm anyway. so no script running | 07:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:19 |
| georgelappies | hi all | 11:38 |
| Kilos | hi georgelappies | 11:39 |
| georgelappies | hi Kilos, how are you doing | 11:45 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 11:45 |
| georgelappies | good thanks :) | 11:46 |
| inetpro | #PowerAlert: Eskom will implement #load_shedding stage 1 from 17h00 to 22h00 today. | 13:36 |
| MaNI | lovely | 13:50 |
| inetpro | MaNI: you can say that again | 13:58 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:58 |
| MaNI | nothing like some sunday afternoon load shedding to prepare you for the week ahead | 13:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:00 |
| squish102 | "Minister of Public Enterprises Lynne Brown ruled out the privatisation of basic services - such as the provision of electricity and water - and said load shedding will continue for three more years." | 14:21 |
| squish102 | only three more years and then it will be better | 14:21 |
| squish102 | there is hope | 14:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:25 |
| georgelappies | squish102, that is based on the assumption that Eskom will get stations like Medupi and Kuseli up and running though in time... | 14:26 |
| inetpro | I have my doubts | 14:28 |
| inetpro | but at the same time I think in two or three years time things will look totally different | 14:29 |
| inetpro | more and more people and businesses will be off the grid by that time | 14:29 |
| Kilos | they first have to get permission from the forefathers to carry on | 14:29 |
| inetpro | we might even end up not needing those power stations | 14:30 |
| Kilos | why? | 14:30 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the more people doing threir own thing the less power is needed | 14:30 |
| inetpro | their* | 14:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:31 |
| Kilos | too expensive | 14:31 |
| inetpro | the costs are starting to balance out | 14:31 |
| Kilos | those battery systems for a household are R36k | 14:32 |
| inetpro | it's a long term investment | 14:32 |
| Kilos | i wonder how long those batteries will last | 14:32 |
| inetpro | people are doing it without a doubt | 14:40 |
| georgelappies | Nuclear power is the most sane long term, cheapest solution | 14:45 |
| georgelappies | the reactors just needs to be maintained | 14:45 |
| inetpro | georgelappies: only a matter of time | 14:46 |
| georgelappies | other sources, especially solar in SA is an option for the *rich* | 14:46 |
| inetpro | only a matter of time until we get to extract energy from the sun more effeciently | 14:47 |
| georgelappies | yeah have plenty of nuclear waste disposal sites in old mined out deep level gold mines | 14:47 |
| inetpro | efficiently as well | 14:48 |
| georgelappies | inetpro, the problem is that you cannot install a device in a living area (squatter camp) where the cost of the solar device is 10 times the value of everything in a 2km radius of it | 14:49 |
| georgelappies | we (people who can make plans to get of the grid by solar, generators etc) are not the majority who require electricity | 14:50 |
| inetpro | good point | 14:50 |
| georgelappies | major users of electricity is first and foremost industry | 14:51 |
| georgelappies | smelting ovens and other big factories use an order of magnitude more electricity than the suburbs | 14:51 |
| inetpro | the answer really lies in private sector feeding into the grid | 14:52 |
| georgelappies | here were I live, Secunda. The Sasol plant has two power stations 1.5km from each other, owned and operated by Sasol just to provide steam and electricity for the rest of units in the factory | 14:52 |
| georgelappies | exactly, it needs to de monopolized | 14:53 |
| inetpro | I just wish the polution factor could be addressed as soon as possible | 14:54 |
| georgelappies | problem is that the government owns Eskom and stand to loose to much if Eskom is ever listed on the JSE | 14:54 |
| georgelappies | yeah, pollution is a big problem, especially for fossil fuel plants | 14:55 |
| georgelappies | nuclear if maintained properly is actually the *cleanest* | 14:56 |
| georgelappies | only thing is if nuclear f's out, it f's big time, like Chernobyl and that site in Japan | 14:56 |
| Kilos | yip you need skilled peeps to run nuke plants | 14:57 |
| inetpro | oh and we need so many more customer service-oriented people | 14:58 |
| georgelappies | check this link for efficiency of nuclear fuel: https://www.euronuclear.org/info/encyclopedia/f/fuelcomparison.htm | 15:00 |
| Kilos | nuke power is the answer | 15:01 |
| georgelappies | currently we (SA) produce 18% of the total Uranium consumed in the world annually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_in_Africa | 15:01 |
| Kilos | koeberg has been running fine for many years | 15:01 |
| georgelappies | it is a by product of our deep level mining as the gold ore contains Uranium and Plutonium | 15:02 |
| georgelappies | so, we have enough of the stuff to power SA for thousands of years into future | 15:03 |
| Kilos | yeah well if they keep on planning we could have 6 nuke plants going by 2050 | 15:04 |
| Kilos | but i wont see that | 15:04 |
| inetpro | how long does it take to build a plant? | 15:05 |
| Kilos | i think 5 years | 15:05 |
| inetpro | quicker to do it in minetest :-) | 15:06 |
| Kilos | every thing must be done according to the book, no cutting corners by cutting on cement or so | 15:06 |
| Kilos | yeah but that took a while too to get to that stage | 15:07 |
| georgelappies | building (site work, excluding the front engineering) in a first world country is about 5-7 years. We will probably by existing IP from China so there will be no front end engineering required, however building it here will be more like 8-10 years unless the Chinese build it | 15:09 |
| inetpro | Kilos: @CityTshwane Stage 1 #LoadShedding to be implemented from 17:00 scheduled groups are: 11, 15, 9, 10 & 16 | 15:16 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:17 |
| Kilos | so if im in one of those groups it can happen anytime between now and 10 pm | 15:18 |
| Kilos | thnks inetpro | 15:19 |
| Kilos | hopefully this week i get to go buy a soldering iron in sandton | 15:23 |
| Kilos | then i can repair an asrock h61m-vs3 motherboard | 15:24 |
| inetpro | uh! | 15:48 |
| inetpro | magespawn's gridwatch is lekker confused | 15:49 |
| Kilos | what gridwatch | 15:50 |
| inetpro | sending me alerts of loadshedding beeing suspended only to tell me the next moment that it's been implemented on stage 1 again | 15:50 |
| inetpro | Kilos: android loadshedding app | 15:50 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:50 |
| inetpro | from news24 | 15:50 |
| Kilos | i see this http://www.tshwane.gov.za/sites/Departments/Public-works-and-infrastructure/Pages/Load-Shedding.aspx | 15:51 |
| Kilos | does that show only area 15 and 16 will be shed tonight | 15:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: look at the table for stage 1 | 15:53 |
| inetpro | and focus on the last column (Sun 2 & 4) | 15:53 |
| inetpro | today is the 2nd Sunday of the month | 15:54 |
| inetpro | in other words according to that, it should just be areas 15, 9 and 11 | 15:55 |
| Kilos | i see this http://pasteboard.co/1dEIdwMI.png | 15:55 |
| inetpro | yikes! | 15:56 |
| Kilos | terrible | 15:57 |
| Kilos | thats part of why i can never find it | 15:57 |
| inetpro | yep, they really need to learn to put stuff in proper HTML rather relying on proprietary technologies | 15:58 |
| inetpro | still you should be able to read that | 15:59 |
| Kilos | i can but is where shedding is there where the red arrow is | 15:59 |
| inetpro | no, that has nothing to do with it | 15:59 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:59 |
| inetpro | that is pointing to the scrollbar | 16:00 |
| Kilos | eish | 16:00 |
| inetpro | not supposed to be inside the table | 16:00 |
| Kilos | but then the 2nd sunday is only area 16 right? | 16:00 |
| inetpro | oom Kilos. look at the tme as well on the left | 16:01 |
| inetpro | time* | 16:01 |
| Kilos | oh so 9 and 11 still to be shed tonight | 16:02 |
| inetpro | yebo yes | 16:02 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro now just to find what area | 16:03 |
| inetpro | \o/ | 16:03 |
| inetpro | nou verstaan hy | 16:03 |
| Kilos | ja dankie man | 16:03 |
| inetpro | :-) | 16:03 |
| inetpro | and if it's stage two you look at the next table | 16:04 |
| Kilos | ya that can work if i know what area they class this as | 16:04 |
| inetpro | and when it is Monday you look in the Mon column :-) | 16:04 |
| Kilos | got that ty | 16:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: maybe you should tweet @CityTshwane and attach that table of yours so they can be aware of the poorly formatted page on your browser | 16:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:10 |
| inetpro | attach that image of yours* | 16:10 |
| Kilos | who gets to fix things | 16:10 |
| inetpro | if nobody tells them they may not get to know it | 16:11 |
| Kilos | must i say please fix it | 16:13 |
| inetpro | just got yet another notice from gridwatch, "Eskom has suspended load shedding" only to be followed by, "ALERT! Eskom has started Stage 1 load shedding" | 16:13 |
| inetpro | ai! | 16:13 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:14 |
| Kilos | i closed all the tswane stuff now, those changing pics waste data | 16:15 |
| MaNI | damn missed half the power plant talk thanks to eskom :p | 16:17 |
| Kilos | aw | 16:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I see you tweeted | 16:28 |
| Kilos | haha | 16:29 |
| inetpro | Kilos: only problem is, they will never know it | 16:29 |
| Kilos | why? | 16:29 |
| inetpro | you should include @CityTshwane in your tweet | 16:29 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:29 |
| Kilos | ill tweet again from their site | 16:30 |
| Kilos | eish no copy paste there | 16:31 |
| Kilos | ha | 16:32 |
| Kilos | ctrl+v works | 16:32 |
| Kilos | inetpro do you see that one? | 16:33 |
| inetpro | Kilos: much better thanks | 16:35 |
| Kilos | yw | 16:36 |
| Kilos | will they get you to fix it? | 16:37 |
| Kilos | wow fly is becoming quite a chef | 16:40 |
| Kilos | hi Cryterion | 16:42 |
| Kilos | ai! | 16:42 |
| Kilos | wb Cryterion | 16:42 |
| Kilos | what are you breaking | 16:42 |
| Kilos | oi | 16:45 |
| Cryterion-- | hmm. hi. tks | 16:45 |
| === Cryterion-- is now known as Cryterion | ||
| inetpro | ai! | 16:54 |
| Kilos | inetpro @sharpeys thank you for bringing that to our attention we will get it fixed. | 17:13 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you see, it works | 17:14 |
| Kilos | ya | 17:14 |
| * inetpro has noticed city of johburg also being very active on twitter | 17:15 | |
| Kilos | eish and i dont like twitter at all | 17:16 |
| inetpro | @CityofJoburgZA has 99.7K followers | 17:18 |
| Kilos | wow | 17:19 |
| inetpro | you don't get to those kind of numbers without a bit of effort | 17:24 |
| Kilos | i dont like the numbers, i try to keep mine down | 17:25 |
| Kilos | most peeps brag with all their followers | 17:25 |
| Kilos | drives me nuts | 17:25 |
| inetpro | haha, you really don't need those numbers :-) | 17:25 |
| * superfly is already in bed | 17:41 | |
| Kilos | keep warm superfly you sick? | 17:41 |
| superfly | Kilos: just tired. been a long weekend | 17:41 |
| Kilos | then have a good rest | 17:41 |
| inetpro | ai! | 17:54 |
| Kilos | wat | 17:54 |
| inetpro | eskom loadshedding site is broken http://loadshedding.eskom.co.za/ | 17:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:55 |
| inetpro | wb smile | 17:58 |
| smile | hi! :D | 18:00 |
| smile | inetpro: honeymoon in trinidad | 18:06 |
| smile | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTyj0d_XZO8 | 18:06 |
| smile | it's a ridiculous music video | 18:06 |
| smile | :D | 18:06 |
| smile | Cryterion: hi! :D | 18:10 |
| Cryterion | Hi | 18:16 |
| Kilos | inetpro you here? | 18:26 |
| Kilos | we still got power | 18:26 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yes | 18:28 |
| inetpro | at least I think I am still here | 18:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:30 |
| Kilos | so im not section 15 or 9 | 18:30 |
| inetpro | time will tell | 18:31 |
| Kilos | they must get it right or ill tweet them sick | 18:32 |
| Kilos | there is a remix for schools and colleges called malinux | 18:36 |
| Kilos | http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/ | 18:36 |
| Kilos | dont know if our schools could use it | 18:36 |
| Kilos | 2.7g iso | 18:36 |
| georgelappies | night all | 18:42 |
| === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding | ||
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:31 |
| Kilos | sleep warm | 19:31 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:31 |
| Kilos | what | 19:31 |
| inetpro | good night oom Kilos | 19:31 |
| Kilos | night my pro | 19:32 |
| smile | Slaapwel | 21:07 |
| magespawn | good evening | 22:50 |
| magespawn | hallo | 22:50 |
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