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jean-guywell, if I double clic on a mp3, for example,  it is parole media player that tries to open/ play the tune00:00
jean-guybut it does not work well00:00
jean-guyso now, i have to do a right clic, open with, and select  rhythm box00:00
EriC^^jean-guy: ok, right click on the mp3, and press properties > open with , choose one and press set as default00:01
jean-guyokee cool, thanks Eric00:02
EriC^^no problem00:02
jean-guyI only have to set thse paramaters  ONE time, right?00:02
EriC^^yup00:02
celtonhello?00:05
prometcelton, hai!00:05
prometDoes anyone know, is there a way in Unity (15.04) to have alt-tab show apps on all workspaces, rather than just the current workspace?00:06
steveyh19hi, would anyone be able to help me with an alt-tabbing issue I have with ubuntu 15.04? Whenever a game is running in windowed mode (and has vsync enabled - there's no issue when it's turned off) then alt tabbing has a 1-2 second delay between switching windows (even if I mouse click between them too)00:11
steveyh19Xorg cpu usage shoots up at this moment too00:11
Turnip_G1promet Ctrl+Alt+Arrow key swaps work space, Alt+Tab apps in workspaces.00:12
kuba7447is mir dead yet?00:12
MonkeyDust!mir00:13
ubottuMir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir00:13
kuba7447!wayland00:13
ubottuWayland is a display server protocol that is intended to replace X. More information can be found at http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ . Ubuntu is instead focusing on development of !Mir; see its factoid for more information.00:13
kuba7447mir, "next-generation"00:14
kuba7447lol00:14
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kuba7447having to display servers is a bad idea....00:16
kuba7447*two00:16
astroboyHow to show list of main app using terminal? i mean only show main apps just like apps showed on dash00:19
astroboy#juicessh00:19
EriC^^astroboy: ls /usr/share/applications00:20
astroboythx EriC^^00:22
EriC^^np00:23
astroboyi also have problem when trying to start clementine from other device remotely using ssh, but work well when i run using terminal locally, what wrong??00:24
EriC^^how are you trying to start it?00:24
EriC^^you need x-forwarding00:25
astroboyoh, what's x-forwarding? port/00:25
EriC^^it forwards the x (gui) to your current pc00:26
EriC^^so clementine runs on the server, but the gui is displayed on your pc's x server00:26
EriC^^if you don't need a gui, you could just run mplayer /path/to/mp300:26
astroboyno idon't need gui00:27
EriC^^ok, use mplayer /path/to/mp300:27
EriC^^i think it should work00:28
EriC^^not sure00:28
EriC^^actually i think it won't, give it a shot though :>00:28
astroboyyah, let me first install mplayer00:29
EriC^^astroboy: you could use sshfs maybe and play it on your pc00:30
EriC^^or just scp the mp3 you want to play00:30
bazhanghttp://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/commandline.html00:30
bazhangit does work00:31
EriC^^bazhang: ssh won't forward the audio right00:31
EriC^^it does? over ssh?00:31
bazhangI missed that part, worth a shot though00:32
astroboyEriC^^, i thing won't too, but i only want to control my music player, actually the server is may pc in my home :)00:33
NikeshIs there a list somewhere of the best supported/recommended laptops to run Ubuntu on?00:34
EriC^^!certified00:34
Nikesh!certified00:34
NikeshHm.. not found00:35
bazhang!hcl00:35
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection00:35
Johnny_Linuxjust google ubuntu cert laptops00:35
EriC^^Nikesh: also http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/00:36
BolvaronHi, just wanted to ask if it is possible to run DX-Games with ubuntu, cause im thinking about getting rid of windows but im a gamer00:37
bazhangBolvaron, with wine00:38
Felishiahello00:38
bazhang!appdb | Bolvaron00:38
ubottuBolvaron: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help00:38
prometkuba7447, of wayland & mir, which do you find the least repulsive.00:39
Bolvaronright now im running ubuntu from stick (15.04), and there is one specific game, my hardware should be more than enough00:40
James46929Hello all00:40
bazhangBolvaron,  usb stick will be way too slow for that00:40
guest-7yCX2Dctrc00:41
James46929Anyone using SSD?00:41
Bolvaroni know, bazhang, the installation depends on getting game to run00:41
bazhang!trim | James4692900:42
ubottuJames46929: Many Solid State Drives support TRIM, which allows the drive to do garbage collection and improves performance. Ubuntu 14.04 activates it by default. For older versions, see http://askubuntu.com/a/19480 for information on activating it.00:42
kuba7447promet, repulsive?00:42
bazhangpromet, thats not a support question00:42
James46929How hard would it be to clone a SATA to SSD?00:43
bazhangJames46929, same as any other, not hard00:43
kuba7447i dont like mir because only ubuntu benefits from it, no other distros00:43
Johnny_Linuxyou dont have to use it00:43
bazhangpromet, kuba7447 please take this chat to the offtopic channel, thanks00:44
James46929...so no issues with a hard drive of one type moved to a hard drive of a different type.00:44
bazhangcorrect James4692900:45
Felishia:3 I need my music making program in my linux... e.e00:45
Felishiawine doesn't work00:45
psusiJames46929, nope... only difference is in performance characteristics00:45
bazhangardour rosegarden and the like Felishia00:45
bazhangcheck out ubuntustudio Felishia00:46
bazhang!studio | Felishia00:46
ubottuFelishia: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org00:46
FelishiaI don't like rosegarden, it's too complicated like finale, ends up freezing my creativity because I have to care that the score looks right00:46
bazhang!equivalents | Felishia search here then00:47
ubottuFelishia search here then: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant00:47
MACscri already have the virtual kernel installed, but it doesnt appear to be used. i was using it before though, so not sure why it switched back to generic. Is there a proper way to switch to the virtual kernel besides manually updating the menu.lst?00:47
James46929Thanks all! Should I use Clonezilla or is there other options?00:47
bazhangJames46929, with out without the gui00:47
EriC^^James46929: make sure you take into consideration the size of the hdd you're going to clone it to00:47
BolvaronOK, found all i need, but i think i have to backup the game to my USB-Drive00:48
Bolvaronas my livesystem doesnt seem to access my 1TB GPT-HDD00:49
James46929I am planning of going from 300 to 500 gig00:49
bazhangmake it persistent then Bolvaron00:49
bazhang!usb00:50
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent00:50
EriC^^Bolvaron: do you have windows on it? probably cause of the fast shutdown00:50
bazhanglast link Bolvaron00:50
Bolvaroni want to get the /home on the 1TB, so i have to backup my files00:50
HallateMI used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.00:51
HallateMI used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.00:51
HallateMI used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.00:51
HallateMI used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.00:51
HallateMI used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.00:51
HallateMI used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.00:51
HallateMI used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.00:51
Bolvaronmy plan is: /boot, /swap and / on my 128GB SSD, and /home on my big HDD00:51
James46929Totally different question. Anyone worked with voice commands for ubuntu?00:51
Bolvaronwhat do you think of my plan_00:53
ObrienDaveBolvaron, /swap will kill your SSD00:54
compdocno it wont00:54
Bolvaronso swap on the HDD?00:54
compdocssd is best place for swap00:54
ObrienDavean SSD has a limited write life. it's your SSD do what you like00:54
James46929Is swap needed for SSD?00:55
Bolvaroni have a rather good rig, 4770K and GTX 780 with 16gb RAM00:55
Bolvaronso gaming should be doable00:55
ObrienDavehow much RAM do you have?00:55
Bashing-omBolvaron: A separate /boot is something of an anachronism, dating back to limited PC BIOSes that could only handle small disks, so the boot files had to be at the start of the disk.00:55
Bolvaron16GB00:55
ObrienDavethen /swap is NOT needed00:55
ObrienDaveat all00:55
EriC^^( unless you want to be able to hibernate )00:56
BolvaronBashing-om doesnt linux install a /boot when installing bootloader?00:56
James46929My laptop has 4 gig ram.... swap advised on SSD?00:57
Felishiameh nothing looks good :( too profesional for my taste00:57
FelishiaI need to think of sounds not of notes00:57
Bashing-omBolvaron: No, not a seperate /boot partition. the boot is included with '/' .00:58
Bolvaronok, so ill just save the game on my 32GB Stick, cause i cant access my HDD from Linux (GPT 1TB)00:59
Bolvaronand when i install linux ill format the big disc as /home, ill be back when ive done that01:00
Bashing-omBolvaron: There should be no reason that from linux you can not access a 1Tb drive . ( maybe Mac file system ?) .01:00
EriC^^Bolvaron: why not01:00
Bolvaronthe only discs i see are the live-stick and the System-partition on SSD01:01
Bolvaronand a DVD01:01
EriC^^Bolvaron: type lsblk01:01
Bashing-omBolvaron: Does bios see the 1TB drive ?01:01
prometBolvaron, it may not be automounting, what filesystem is on the 1TB01:02
MACscrno one has advice for simply switching to the virtual kernel and thus updates will keep using thew newest virtual kernel as well?01:02
James46929Anyone using Lubuntu in particular?01:02
Bolvaronfilesystem GPT / NTFS01:02
prometJames46929, lil' bit, why>01:02
promet?01:02
Bolvarondisk is listed as sdb01:03
Bolvaronpartition sdb301:03
EriC^^Bolvaron: type sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt01:03
EriC^^does it have windows on it?01:03
prometBolvaron, so, you can see it, it's just not mounted...01:03
Bolvaronmount: /dev/sdb3 is write-protected, mounting read-only01:03
Bolvaronmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb3,01:03
Bolvaron       missing codepage or helper program, or other error01:03
James46929Thinking about lubuntu on acer netbook to put together a linux type mobile office.01:04
jwashsudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb3 /mnt01:04
prometdo "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"01:04
Dr_DanUse xubuntu 14.04 on the Acer01:04
prometwhat jwash said, if it is indeed ntfs01:04
Dr_Dani have asus netbook01:04
EriC^^it shouldn't need -t ntfs01:05
Bolvaronits ntfs but without MBR01:05
Johnny_Linuxxubuntu will work well on asus01:05
EriC^^Bolvaron: gpt works fine with linux01:05
Dr_Dan^ ditto01:05
Bolvarongetting error again01:05
EriC^^Bolvaron: do you have important data on it?01:05
* Felishia dances01:05
James46929xbuntu instead lubuntu? what is advantage?01:05
Bolvaronmz whole games are on it01:06
bazhangFelishia, not here01:06
Bolvaronmy01:06
EriC^^Bolvaron: maybe the hdd is going bad? need to use the backup superblock? etc.01:06
Dr_DanRuns xfce window manager.  Therefore fast01:06
EriC^^Bolvaron: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 999901:07
EriC^^and paste the link here so somebody can check if your hdd is healthy01:07
Bashing-omEriC^^: Bolvaron Is there a hold on the drive such that ubuntu will not touch it , such as "safely unmount" the drive from within Windows ??01:07
James46929distrowatch said lubuntu uses less resources. Is that wrong?01:07
Bolvaronok tring01:07
Dr_Danactually i have 5 asus netbooks, the 1015PX,  all with xubuntu.  Wifey loves hers.  Kids do too01:08
psusiBolvaron, first, do as the message indicated and run dmesg and see if there are any interesting errors towards the end01:08
Bolvaronhttp://termbin.com/6z8f01:08
Dr_Daneasier to support too01:08
Dr_Dan:-)01:08
EriC^^Bolvaron: sorry, sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 999901:08
prometJames46929, I was recently shopping through distros to save an aged laptop and, in my case xubuntu was, indeed, faster than Lubuntu01:09
Dr_DanXubuntu. FTW!01:09
Bolvaronhttp://termbin.com/lomu01:09
prometI didn't really get into "the guts" of it, but the base desktop responsiveness was noticably faster.01:09
EriC^^anybody have any experience with smartctl ?01:10
Dr_DanIve used both, and xubuntu 14 was faster too01:10
Bolvaronafk for a moment01:10
Dr_DanI also tried Mint.  big mistake.  It ran slow on netbook01:10
joaoHi everyone! I dont have sound on my phones...Im using lubuntu 64 bit.. I also tried pulse audio.. But i still dont have sound when i plug my phones...01:11
Johnny_Linuxprolly hd bad drivers01:11
Johnny_Linuxhad01:11
prometI've looked around the "small/fast/old-hardware" distros and, while I'm no "pro", I have to say, when in need I think Xubuntu covers the bases most efficiently, plus repos, support, etc.01:11
James46929I not fond of how xubuntu desktop looks. Lubuntu for me still looks a little like windows. Easier for me.01:11
Dr_DanJames,  try xubuntu 14.   Is your old netbook 32bit  or  64bit"01:11
James46929acer 32 bit ....  aspire one d25001:12
joaoAnyone to help me?01:12
prometJames46929, you can, with a little elbow grease, get Xubuntu to look like darn near anything you'd like <*reiterates elbow grease*>01:12
Dr_DanOk.  Almost everytning ypu try will 'feel' slow on a 32bit mavhine01:13
prometJames46929, it's all of the "blue-ness", isn't it...?01:13
James46929oh... any tutorials on making xubuntu look like windows xp?01:13
Bashing-om!ask | joao01:14
ubottujoao: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:14
prometput in a dark theme, slap docky or something in there, etc...01:14
Dr_DanI searched and found 1015px machines for $120 on ebay.  With 250 or 320GB and   2GB Ram.01:14
prometThat may also raise your overhead a little though...01:14
James46929Got lubuntu pretty fast at present.01:15
Bolvaron15.04 or 14.04? which kubuntu should i use?01:15
joaoOk can you help me? I followed everything i could find in the net... And nothing... I still have no sound!01:16
Johnny_Linuxid go for lts01:16
Bolvaronat least i want to use KDE, dont like the ubuntu desktop01:16
Dr_Dani put xubuntu on them cause they are 64bit and come with 2GB ram.   I then put in a SSD.  The machine is good to go after that01:16
Bashing-omBolvaron: :) If ya have to ask, then it is 14.04 .. as it is a Long Term Support release .01:17
Bolvaronits my first jump on kubuntu, used win for years now01:17
ObrienDaveBolvaron, welcome to the world of FREE software ;P01:18
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Bolvaronthanks, but as for now ive not installed it, have to see that i get ffxiv backed up, so ill relog to win and do that first01:19
prometDr_Dan, that is a good recipe for a pretty blazing xubuntu machine01:19
Dr_DanI know right01:20
Bashing-omBolvaron: Release 15.04 (vivid) is supported for 9 months, EOL (End Of Life) comes real quick .01:20
racartomreyn, (or anyone) do you think calling CRDA could impact my WIFI ? http://pastebin.com/HsGdfWgy ... This is the only thing i see in my dmesg. I still have trouble with my wifi. (stop working after 10 min and i need to toogle the wifi everytime to get it back)01:20
Bolvaronwhats the next lts-eta? or at least which will be the next LTS_01:20
Bolvaron?01:20
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EriC^^Bolvaron: 16.0401:20
prometI wonder, and I don't want to complicate things, but if you ran a xubuntu base with awesome-wm, or fluxbox as the window manager, if you could squeeze a little more performance out; admittedly not for everyone...01:20
James46929what about openbox?01:21
prometJames46929, openbox sounds very good, but I haven01:21
Bolvaronif i install 14.04 kubuntu, will it upgrade to the newest KDE?01:21
bazhangBolvaron, 16.04 is the next lts01:21
Bashing-omBolvaron: That be 16.04 ^^ /// the 16th year and the 4th month . New LTS release in 2 year intervals .01:21
promet...'t had any experience with it01:21
James46929as a Windows manager?01:21
bazhangBolvaron, there should be a link for that in the title of #kubuntu01:22
Dr_DanJames,  give xubuntu a try,   but beware that a 32bit machine these days is going to seem slow no matter what you try.   Of course theres puppy linux01:22
jak2000DATE=$(date +%F--%T)01:22
jak2000echo %DATE%01:22
jak2000why not displaythe date?01:22
prometI was looking for solutions, and it seemed a little "off the beaten path", i.e. learning curve. I am very curious though01:22
BolvaronOK, ill be back later, have to backup my important thing first01:22
Bolvaronthanks for all your help01:22
EriC^^jak2000: echo $DATE01:22
prometbazhang, what about 15.04?01:23
prometis that not lts?01:23
bazhangpromet, every two years so no01:23
James46929if one does go to openbox... how much trouble to purge the other desktop (xfce or lxde)?01:24
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bazhangJames46929, just switch in the login window01:24
xanguaJames46929: openbox is not a desktop01:24
bazhanglubuntu-desktop package James4692901:25
jak2000EriC^^: http://pastie.org/1023946701:25
jak2000its ok?01:25
Dr_DanTheres xfce and lxde.   Those are the easiest to switch between.  Inmhp01:26
Dr_DanImho01:26
James46929what about the lxdt desktop?01:26
James46929lxqt01:26
EriC^^jak2000: i don't know about the mysql command, but with the cp command use "$DATE" in case it has spaces01:27
Dr_DanJames,  yes.  We discussed our findings.  Xfce = xubuntu,  lxde = lubuntu.  Xubuntu seems faster on a netbook01:27
gp5st"nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33" seems to accompany network hicups or just "disconnects" where network manager doesn't report being disconnected but I can't get to anything. Any thoughts?01:29
James46929https://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Lubuntu_vs_Xubuntu.  ...is what I found so far.01:31
joaoNo one to help me???01:31
adanteif i do btrfs device add -- how is it adding the device? like what span mode?01:33
jak2000how to get a date similar to 20150613 i cant: DATE=$(date +%F).sql01:34
gp5stjak2000: I don't understand what you're asking01:34
gp5stwhy can't you use date01:35
Dr_Dangp5st: is the signal strong or weak?  Maybe the signal is dropping out?01:35
gp5stDr_Dan: no, it's a decent signal and my wifi and the roku have no problems01:35
EriC^^jak2000: date +%Y%m%d01:35
gp5st(both in the same room as me)01:35
jak2000gp5st i want get in a variable the date with format: YYYYMMDD how to?01:36
gp5stjak2000: you're not being clear. do you not know the right format to give date or is date not working01:36
Dr_DanWPA,WPA2, or WEP?01:36
James46929Getting late. nite all thanks for info.01:37
gp5stDr_Dan: WPA201:37
jak2000i not know the format01:37
gp5stjak2000: man date01:37
EriC^^jak2000: date +%Y%m%d01:37
Dr_DanCan you try WEP for a while and if problem goes away,  it was a wpa_supplicant bug01:38
jak2000DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d).sql01:38
jak2000done01:39
EriC^^jak2000: you have your password in that script, you should probably change it i guess01:39
gp5stEriC^^: jak2000 really just needs to learn how to read the man pages01:39
gp5stDr_Dan: I could, but that's a lot of devices to change passwords on :-\01:40
Dr_Dangp5st: does the wifi router have debug logs?01:49
gp5stnot that i know of01:49
Dr_DanHmm01:50
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gp5stno other devices have this issue02:05
gp5stalso, I'm no fan of network manager. it provides no feedback to these issues, so i'll go for a while waiting to see if it'll say not connected while I can't ping or do dns look ups and nothing changes in it02:05
SH4071NQuestion, I have a Dell D620 laptop and I noticed that after a few days I have to restart because the wired internet connction drops02:07
gp5stSH4071N: /var/log/syslog have any information on those issues?02:08
SH4071Nchecking02:08
SH4071N$tate change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]02:09
SH4071NI think network manager is just buggy02:11
SH4071NI show alot of network manager entries in system log about dropping connections02:11
locksmith2whats good america?02:14
SH4071Ndepends on what your trying to achieve02:15
Dr_DanEverything02:15
SH4071NLagunitas IPA is whats good right now02:16
Dr_Dangp5st: can launch wpa_supplicant with -d option or try -dd02:16
Dr_DanThat increases debug output02:17
Dr_DanYou will need to kill the current one02:17
SH4071Nthat could be it, meybe i should change wpa settings on router02:19
Dr_DanOk,  din is on the table.  Got to run.  Laterz02:19
hpekdemirhi02:20
hpekdemiris it possible to name a bridge different than brX?02:20
hpekdemirin /etc/network/interfaces02:21
stackcan anyone help me with an issue im having02:22
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K4rinnaahi02:23
Nytramlo02:23
hpekdemirany hints?02:24
hpekdemiris it possible to name a bridge different than brX? in /etc/network/interfaces?02:26
cheetahw26where can I download flash for armhf ?02:34
cheetahw26I tried adding the canonical repository, but don't see anything there for flash...02:35
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Bashing-omhpeHint: https://www.linux-tips.org/article/73/persistent-device-naming-with-udev ; As per : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225026&page=2 . Maybe ??02:35
Guest94727my fresh ubuntu just installed on macbook pro doesn't spot any wifi connection around , even if there are so many ! any help for fix this ?02:37
f343nceGuest94727: Take a look here, naming that network  hardware is imparitive, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide02:42
xentity1xcan anyone help me figure out why my bluetooth adapter doesnt work on my thinkpad w53002:51
Guest94727f343nce: it seems disconnected , how can I turn it active ?02:51
f343nceGuest94727: It may need a driver, I think thise have broadcoms, can you confirm the card.02:53
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xentity1xcan anyone help me figure out why my bluetooth adapter doesnt work on my thinkpad w53002:54
Guest94727f343nce: yes, that is right , I ve already installed the driver02:54
f343nceGuest94727: Cool, not an area I really know, however you need to follow the ubuntu wiki on this.02:55
f343nce!broadcom02:56
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:56
sapranHi !03:00
guest1who can help me install wubi?03:01
EriC^^guest1: wubi isn't recommended at all03:01
EriC^^!wubi03:01
ubottuWubi was a way to install Ubuntu from within Windows, but it is no longer supported in recent versions of Ubuntu and was never well maintained even for Ubuntu 12.04. Do not use Wubi. See !install for other options for installing Ubuntu.03:01
reisiohi sap03:03
guest1!install03:06
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate03:06
guest1is there a way to have dual operating system inside windows?03:07
EriC^^!vm03:07
ubottuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications03:07
sapranWhere are you from Rei?03:08
EriC^^guest1: there's virtualbox and vmware03:08
guest1!qemu03:08
ubottuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo03:08
EriC^^!virtualbox03:08
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox03:08
EriC^^!vmware03:09
ubottuVMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware03:09
guest1!wine03:09
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu03:09
EriC^^!virtualizers03:11
ubottuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications03:11
LonelIs there a good resource to learn the in and outs of linux?03:12
Lonelhave been using windows up until now...03:13
reisioLonel: ##linux03:13
EriC^^!manual | Lonel03:13
ubottuLonel: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/03:13
LonelThanks!03:14
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ http://ubuntuguide.org/ and tons of sites more, depends on the subject03:14
guest1anyone seen cyberjunkie/incognito?03:14
reisiotoo bad we lost seenserv03:15
OerHeksnever heard of those03:15
supercom32Is ubuntu gnome essentially the same as going "apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment" or whatnot?03:24
supercom32Or do they actually do more customizations than that?03:24
reisioubuntu gnome?03:25
supercom32Should I install Ubuntu Gnome if I want gnome-shell, or should I just install regular Ubuntu and install it on top? Perhaps regular Ubuntu is better supported or something?03:25
supercom32reisio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME03:25
* reisio headdesks03:26
reisioerm, well03:26
reisioif you want plain GNOME 3, and you haven't installed already, yes, install that03:26
OerHeks!info ubuntu-gnome-desktop03:26
ubottuubuntu-gnome-desktop (source: ubuntu-gnome-meta): The Ubuntu GNOME metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.38 (vivid), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB03:26
reisioif you've already installed normal Ubuntu, don't waste time reinstalling, you can install ordinary GNOME from there03:26
reisioOerHeks: very useful...03:26
syadnomyeah, install from ISO or apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop03:27
OerHeksgnome-desktop-environment is replaced by gnome, i read03:27
OerHeksthat is with extras03:28
supercom32Ok, so UbuntuGnome offers noting that the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package wouldn't give you?03:29
supercom32noting = nothing.03:29
reisiosupercom32: no particular Ubuntu distro offers anything more than any other03:29
reisioand, for that matter, essentially no GNU/Linux distro at all offers anything more than any other03:29
supercom32reisio: Bugs perhaps? lol03:29
reisiopurely theoretically03:29
syadnomsupercom32, it's the same03:30
moondogreisio: nice to hear someone admit that03:30
supercom32reisio: I was hoping UbuntuGnome would just save me from having to un-integrate unity and junk.03:30
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reisiosupercom32: it would, but it won't save you time if you've already installed the Unity version03:30
f343ncesupercom32: do a net install and do what you want.03:30
moondogI'd go so far as to say... not that much difference between distros in general. funny how some tout the inclusion of this app or that app. really?03:31
reisiowell there are differences, but not really on a 3rd party software level03:31
reisio(for example with GNOME)03:31
reisioyou can get GNOME on any03:31
darthanubisbut access to the latest gnome will vary with distro03:33
reisionope03:33
reisioease of access might, though03:33
syadnomsupercom32, the only thing you will notice is more apps installed, and more options in the session manager03:33
darthanubisoh, gnome 3.16 is in Debian?03:33
reisiodarthanubis: probably03:34
darthanubisit's not03:34
reisiodarthanubis: yes it is03:34
darthanubishttps://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.16-status.html03:35
reisiowhat's 0d.be?03:35
darthanubispoint being there is a difference in distro if the user is looking for something specific like the latest gnome03:36
reisiodarthanubis: try https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=gnome03:36
supercom32syadnom: Oh, so regular Ubuntu offers more apps?03:36
reisiopoint being you're wrong03:36
reisiomost people are, don't sweat it03:36
darthanubissure :)03:36
syadnomsupercom32, no, all ubuntu offers the same apps.03:36
syadnomroughly...I suppose there are custom ones with default repos for things not in the regular repos03:37
supercom32syadnom: You said more options in the session manager?03:37
syadnomsupercom32, yeah, options for your new gnome shell and for unity.03:37
reisiobut even if gnome 3.16 weren't in Debian's repos, you could go to gnome.org, get it, and install it03:37
reisiowould only be a matter of _easte_ of access :)03:37
darthanubislol03:37
syadnomgnome 3.16 is still marked experimental in pre-packaged form03:38
reisioyeah?03:38
reisiowhat else can you tell us that's written clearly on pages already linked?03:38
darthanubis61% ready in Debian, but one could install straight from Gnome Staging PPA in any ubuntu-ish flavor, like I'm running now03:39
reisioI got one for you03:39
reisioExact hits03:39
reisiothat's written, too03:39
reisiofun game, this03:39
darthanubisTry that in Debian, and you will likely break your system03:39
reisiodarthanubis: probably not any more likely than on Ubuntu03:39
darthanubisIn ubuntu you can revert with just an apt-purge03:39
darthanubissorry03:39
darthanubisppa-purge03:39
darthanubisyou have to love that03:40
reisiowhat package is ppa-purge part of?03:40
reisioitself?03:40
reisioyou can install that on Debian, too03:40
reisioy'know why? Ubuntu is Debian03:40
syadnomreisio, you're basically taking the slackware approach to ubuntu/debian the way you are talking.  gnome 3.16 is NOT in debian, you can't will it into the repos.  installable and 'in' a distro are not the same thing03:42
darthanubissyadnom, ty03:42
syadnomand ubuntu is not debian, a blanket statement that ubuntu is Debian is useless as MANY packages in ubuntu land will not 'install' on debian, meaning that dpkg -i package.deb doesn't work03:43
reisioman you have problems03:43
reisioit's in Debian repos03:43
syadnomit's not03:43
reisioit really is03:43
reisioy'know how I know? I looked03:43
reisiotry it :p03:43
syadnomit's in experimental03:43
reisiowhat is?03:43
reisiothe gnome 3.16 that's in debian repos?03:43
reisioanswer carefully now :p03:44
supercom32lol03:44
reisiojust because ubuntu has no experimental branch and debian has doesn't mean debian hasn't the package03:44
reisioit just means debian can be more stable :p03:44
syadnomgnome-shell is in debian experimental, not debian proper that sane people install03:44
* reisio yawns03:44
* reisio is more infallible than usual tonight03:45
syadnomi means nothing of the sort, it means debian doesn't have a maintainer for up-to-date gnome and ubuntu does03:45
reisiosyadnom: shhhh, quiet now03:45
supercom32Personally I would say debian proper is the one you want to use. Experimental shouldn't exactly count. But meh03:45
syadnomyou are wrong more than you are right03:45
reisiosupercom32: even though Ubuntu is sourced from unstable Debian? Come now03:46
reisiosyadnom: I just read 'syadnom' now and then not the rest of the line :)03:46
reisiolittle smile creeps across my face, though03:46
syadnomarrogant without cause, and falls back to semantics to dodge being wrong.03:47
reisioheh, that was a good one, 'cause I read your nick and 'arrogant', then stopped :p03:47
kabaresite03:48
syadnom...and proving my point...03:48
kabaresiszhelo03:48
kabaresiubnut03:48
reisiokabaresi: heyo03:48
reisioheyo kabra03:48
guest1virtual box is to install a server?03:49
reisioguest1: not specifically, no03:50
reisioit's to emulate hardware for rare situations03:50
reisio(or simple tourism)03:50
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Guest87948hi03:52
reisiohi guest03:53
reisio/nick awesomedude03:53
guest1talking to me03:54
guest1?03:54
guest1i have the virtualbox03:54
reisioguest1: I was earlier03:54
xyzzy81mmmm virtualbox03:54
guest1oracle virtualbox03:55
reisiommmm, virtualbox, what fine awful XML files and juvenile software you have03:55
reisioguest1: yes, what about it?03:55
guest1can i install ubuntu and use virtualbox inside windows03:55
xyzzy81sure thing03:55
reisioguest1: what xyzzy81 said03:55
xyzzy81it's quite straight forward. So long as you mount the iso and follow the gui installer03:55
StarheroMic check 1 203:55
xyzzy81and set the network to NAT03:55
reisioxyzzy81: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0429277/03:55
reisioStarhero: fail03:55
reisionat is default03:56
xyzzy81ahh well there ya go then :)03:56
guest1tutorial please03:56
guest1thank you03:56
reisioguest1: you want to install Ubuntu within VirtualBox as running on Windows?03:56
xyzzy81Zyzzyx Rd! What is this magic?03:56
guest1reisio yes!03:56
Starheroshit, gotta stop trying to crtl-a all my text and backspace...not gonna work in bybu03:56
reisioguest1: download Ubuntu install image, create vm for ubuntu, set the install image as mounted cd, start vm, install as normal03:57
xyzzy81First link in search guest1. http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Ubuntu-on-VirtualBox03:57
doraI'm trying to back up my Kubuntu installation with Clonezilla, using a Seagate USB expansion disk, and Clonezilla won't see the USB drive.  System sees it when booted.  Have NTFS partition w image of Windows 7 system, and a Fat 32 partition.03:57
guest1reisio, i dont have cd-rom03:57
xyzzy81you don't need a cd rom03:57
reisiodora: might be ignoring it because fat can't store more than 4GB or so03:57
doraWhat do I format it as?03:58
xyzzy81you just need the iso file. Check that link I just posted. It'll explain everything03:58
reisiodora: something else; but I wouldn't bother03:58
reisiodora: backing up your /home/ is enough03:58
doraOriginally I had formatted it on Windows 7 computer as xfat and it didn't see that03:58
reisioall the rest of the system is mirrored the world over03:58
reisio!clone @ dora03:58
ubottureisio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:58
reisio!clone03:58
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate03:58
reisioubottu: not much chance of that03:58
doraNo, I have actual software I don't want to spend a week to reinstall tomorrow when the system breaks again.03:58
ubottureisio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:58
xyzzy81lol03:59
reisiolike I said03:59
reisiodora: see bot's msg03:59
dorawhat do you mean see bot's msg?03:59
reisiothere's a msg above, from a bot03:59
reisiosee it03:59
StarheroMight someone be able to tell me how I am suppose to do this "Ensure that ping $(hostname -f) shows the real IP address, not 127.0.1.1. Change or remove this entry from /etc/hosts if present." It does what it shouldn't but the orgin of where that sentence comes from does not state exactly what to write/take out of said hostfile03:59
doraDid you mean literally format it as "something else"?  Then what?03:59
doraWhere?  I don't see a message from a bot.04:00
reisiodora: could try NTFS04:00
reisioubottu is a bot04:00
ubottuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots for all information.04:00
reisioa dumb one04:00
doraOK.  But it doesn't see the NTFS partition either.04:00
reisiobut still a bot04:00
Starheroif it means , verbaitum that peice of ...code..for lack of a better discription04:00
reisiodora: how big is the NTFS partition?04:00
reisioit might ignore any partition that cannot possibly hold a copy04:01
reisiodue to size or filesystem limitations04:01
* reisio isn't familiar with clonezilla nonsense04:01
xyzzy81Starhero: Have you tried #networking?04:01
doraNTFS partition is about 300 gigs.  Fat32 partition is about 210 gigs.04:01
adantehow do i start and stop the samba service nowadays? is it sstill service samba stop/start? or have we moved to another framework?04:01
doraI have used Clonezilla to back up Ubuntu installations before - it IS possible.04:02
adantewhen i run 'service samba stop' and then 'service samba status' it says "smbd is running"04:02
adante(i was hoping to stop it)04:02
Starheroxyzzy81: No I haven't but I will join them.04:02
doraI thought then too I used my Windows 7 computer to format it as Xfat.04:02
reisiodora: if I were you, I'd backup /home/, with rsync, and backup a list of your installed packages, with what ubottu says in response to '!clone'04:02
doraSamba - I dimly remember something about smb.04:02
xyzzy81Starhero: Good luck. I'm reasonably new to networking myself so hopefully you find the answer you're looking for.04:02
xyzzy81Still start, stop, restart as far as I'm aware adante04:03
doraOK, no.  Want to back up whole thing.  AND, it isn't seeing ANYTHING< not even a 4 gig partition, so not able to back up anything.04:03
xyzzy81adante: Are you doing it from the working directory?04:03
doraI'm sorry if you think that any decent moral human being would spend their ENTIRE life continually reinstalling LInux.  I don't think so!04:03
xyzzy81Reinstalling and installing distros is what life is all about /partialsarcasm04:04
doraSo.  How do I get Clonezilla to see even 4 giggs?  Because so far you haven't actually told me how to get it to see the drive AT ALL.04:04
guest1what hard drive file type?04:06
guest1vdi?04:06
reisioguest1: default is fine04:07
guest1there is no default04:07
reisioguest1: if you named the vm something like 'Ubuntu', the icon will change to an almost-copy of Ubuntu's logo04:07
xyzzy81vdi is fine04:07
guest1the first one is vdi04:07
reisioand all the defaults will be fine04:07
reisioguest1: it's probably selected, that makes it the default04:07
xyzzy81How'd you go guest1?04:12
guest1i am reading the instruction on opening file in storage04:12
guest1i set up vm04:13
xyzzy81good work04:13
guest1i am stuck04:16
doraTrying this one more time.  How do I get Clonezilla to see my usb drive?  It currently has an NTFS partition and a Fat32 partition and doesn't see either of them, and didn't see the partition when it was Xfat either.04:16
xyzzy81guest1: So long as you mount the ISO, you should be able to just run it and all the defaults should work right off the bat04:16
guest1i dl the file on foxfire but storage..is looking for hard drive or cd not a file.04:17
reisioclonezilla the live OS?04:17
reisioyou should probably go to #clonezilla04:17
xyzzy81guest1: In Settings>Storage, select "empty" under the Storage Tree. Then under attributes to the right of that window, select the CD icon and navigate to where you saved the ISO file. Double click it and voila, it'll mount. Then just run it04:19
ScraakTF2 has 10-20 fps regardless of graphics settings, ubuntu 14.04 ATI radeon graphics04:19
xyzzy81guest1: There's also #vbox you can join to ask for help if you're not getting what you need here.04:21
ScraakTF2 has 10-20 fps regardless of graphics settings, ubuntu 14.04 ATI radeon graphics04:23
xyzzy81Are you on KDE Scraak ?04:24
Scraakno04:24
xyzzy81Sooo are you asking a question or just stating a fact?04:25
ScraakSorry. How do I fix the low framrate problem?04:25
guest1is it amd 64?04:25
doraI have a problem with a seagate expansion drive.  In Kubuntu, in Disks, it shows as two separate hard drives, 1 T, neither mounted.  Yet I just used Gparted to create and format partitions.  One drive shows the correct partitions and formats, the other shows no media.   What the?????04:25
Scraakguest1, yes04:25
guest1it is not working xyzzy8104:25
cyborg__boa noite a todos04:26
xyzzy81Maybe start from scratch guest1. Select new, put in Ubuntu, and keep all the defaults it gives you. Then select settings to repeat the above post I gave you.04:26
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guest1error in supr3hardenedwinrespawn04:28
guest1what does this mean?04:28
xyzzy81I have no idea. when did you get that error? needs context04:28
xyzzy81quick google suggests that it might be conflicting with your AV guest104:30
xyzzy81guest1: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6261504:30
guest1error relaunching virtualbox vm process04:31
guest1there is a command line04:31
xyzzy81Yeah, have a look at the link I just posted.04:32
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cyborg_ola04:35
guest1sounds like i have n older version of oracle04:39
SubCoolok, heres a new one. ANyone know a file/picutre sorting program i can use that will sort pictures based on their filenames? my pictures are named by the date they were taken. I want to sort them all into folder based on those file names.04:47
SubCoolim tyring to use picasa and shotwell, but the best i can see is the option to sort them by modified date, which can change.04:47
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Guest89508is there anyway to switch off wifi lan from bios or somewhere else ?04:50
syadnomGuest89508, from somewhere else, yes ....not from bios though04:51
guest1did it04:52
guest1must i install ubuntu?04:52
guest1do you have instructions on how to install ubuntu within the vm04:52
Guest89508syadnom: can you show me how ?04:52
syadnomdo you have a hardware switch? is it a laptop or desktop?04:53
tanukiI have a VM running Trusty server, on a host running Trusty server. Can someone tell me why the VM is suddenly running memtest86+?04:54
cfhowletttanuki, because you told it to.04:55
tanukicfhowlett: I'm pretty sure I didn't.04:55
tanukiso either I have a poltergeist or there's a bug of some sort.04:56
cfhowletttanuki, it doesn't run automatically and must be triggered by user.  you're the user?  ...04:56
tanukicfhowlett: Again, I never triggered it.04:56
guest1i'm in!04:57
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guest1i think i am in as a guest04:58
guest1i am in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!104:58
Guest89508syadnom:  is a laptop , I don't know about the hardware switch , Im using ubu 14.04 on macbook pro04:58
* tanuki reboots his server (running quasselcore)04:58
guest1where is he?04:58
syadnomGuest89508, then you'll have to do it in the network manager app, there is no hardware switch on macbooks04:58
guest1xyzzy81??????04:58
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Guest89508syadnom:  I see , I was trying to figure out to fix my wifi lan ,that  is switched off in somehow and I can't make it work again... thanks anyway!05:04
xyzzy81guest1: Good going! :)05:04
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guest1xyzzy8105:14
guest1xyzzy81 do i install ubuntu inside of vm05:14
guest1xyzzy81 i think i am guest05:14
* cfhowlett does not appreciate spam, autobot or otherwise. will NOT do any form of business with fraguk's crappy planet05:21
scatterphi can any one help me with sound i have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036508 and reinstall/upgrade now i am running 15.0405:27
linuxuz3rwhat is smp boot05:30
linuxuz3ris smpboot responsible for hyperthreading05:30
guest1!install05:34
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate05:34
guest1!updates05:34
guest1!update05:34
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade05:34
cfhowlettguest1, privatize your ubottu triggers like this:   /msg ubottu !update05:37
zulusВсем привет!05:38
B0g4r7!ru | zulus05:39
ubottuzulus: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.05:39
cfhowlett!ru | zulus05:39
guest1what is the command to get the command prompt?05:40
B0g4r7guest1: ...either "sh" or "Terminal", depending on what you mean.  ctrl-alt-f1 may work also.05:41
ubuntuuser1I am looking for a cliboard manager with these bare minimum features:05:43
suryahadi22oke...05:44
ubuntuuser1A clipboard that has: COPY-PASTE and SEARCH the HISTORY/entires with a shortcut and shortcut to shuffle through history/entries?05:44
suryahadi22Gays....05:47
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gagaliciousipconfig no response after 2 secs - giving up.. i'm trying to set up diskless ubuntu 14.04... can anyone help? what does it mean?06:22
gagalicioushow do i slow down my tftp connection so i can see the ip being connected?06:31
gagaliciousipconfig no response after 2 secs - giving up.. i'm trying to set up diskless pxe boot client with ubuntu 14.04... can anyone help? what does it mean?06:34
pungi-manI am trying to compile glibc, but when I run make I get an error saying "Makeconfig:42: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?).  Stop."06:39
pungi-manI replaced all the tabs with spaces and the error still persists06:39
badbodhpungi-man, #glibc ought to be more helpful06:42
pungi-manbadbodh, okay06:42
mach20xVLC keeps freezing on me while watching a movie06:45
mach20xCan't do anything to exit the app, even though the sound is playing06:46
gagalicioustftp dhcp ip is too fast. i cant catch it as it flashese to the pxeboot menu... how can i get the ip or slow down the tftp screen?06:47
mach20xThe only thing I can do is reboot using the button on the hardware06:48
doraHow can I change a disk label from Seagate Expansion+ to Seagate?06:57
LeMikei guess it was e2label dora06:58
doraThanks - I'll look that up.06:59
doraI think I need more specific instructions than that.  I put e2label /dev/sdc Seagate and it said it can't find valid filesystem superblock.07:01
Seveasdora: try the actual filesystem (e.g. sdc1, sdc2 etc.), not the disk.07:03
doraBut changing the partition names didn't change the name of the disk.07:03
doraFact that the volume name is illegal in Linux seems to be causing problems.07:03
habbasiHello. How do I find EXACTLY how a given package on the Ubuntu repo was built?07:06
Seveashabbasi: download the source package, check the debian/ folder in that package07:06
habbasi(Need to modify a package to my own liking)07:06
habbasiSeveas: Thanks.07:07
Seveashabbasi: and modifying the package means apt-get build-dep package, apt-get install devscripts pbuilder, make your changes, dch -i, debuild -S, pbuilder init, pbuilder build ../the_new_source_package.dsc07:08
habbasiSeveas: How do I see what source was compiled?07:12
habbasiSeveas: Do build the package?07:12
habbasis/Do/To07:12
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habbasihabbasi: The *.tar.xz includes files, but not source.07:14
n00bhi07:22
Seveashabbasi: sure it includes source. 'apt-get source package' downloads the package's .dsc file and uses it to find and download the source. Generally there's an orig.tar.gz (or bz2, or xz) and a debian.tar.gz or debian.diff.gz07:23
habbasiSeveas: Thanks. :D07:23
inerkickhi.. I am trying to configure Aptana IDE with Bitnami Django. But unable to do it, this is the issue so far. Can anyone help me with the packages which require to set this right https://community.bitnami.com/t/configure-bitnami-in-aptana/2917407:24
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e^0how to find the list of installed packages ?07:25
e^0from command line07:25
Seveasinerkick: ask aptana support. Looks like you're using a version of aptana meant for a different distro, or for a different version of Ubuntu.07:26
Sevease^0: dpkg -l | grep ^ii07:26
navid_HI07:26
navid_yo07:26
navid_what07:26
Seveaswell, that was enlightening :)07:27
inerkickno07:28
inerkickit's for linux deb file only Seveas07:28
e^0Seveas: thanks07:28
inerkickSeveas, Aptana_Studio_3_Setup_Linux_x86_3.6.1.zip is the one i'm using07:29
Seveasinerkick: as I said, ask aptana support. It's not something we support.07:29
inerkickok Seveas07:30
__john_doe__hey guys, I have problems with vmware player... when I start virtual machine, it just crashes07:39
__john_doe__worked well a few days ago and I didn't restart computer or changed anything on the vm in the mean time07:40
badbodh__john_doe__, first of all remove those underscores from your bloody nick07:42
badbodhvery difficult to highlight your nick07:43
badbodhif vmware crashes , there's got to be some 'change' on your system07:43
__john_doe__apt-get update apt-get upgrade07:44
badbodhsome setting, install/update/remove anything07:44
__john_doe__that's the only change07:44
badbodhcheck your apt log and see what changes were made, check if vmware depends on any of them07:44
badbodhdepends ~> dependency07:45
__john_doe__can I somehow check if there's any runtime error when I start vm? I tried dmesg but I didn't find anything07:45
__john_doe__and I get this if I run it from terminal07:46
__john_doe__I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/vmware/hostd/proxy.xml"07:46
badbodhstart it from terminal then07:46
__john_doe__and when I press play on specific vm, it just crashes07:46
__john_doe__no errors diplayed in terminal07:46
jrc107:48
jrc107:50
badbodh__john_doe__, vmware channel could be of more help. if they say it is distro specific problem, come back07:52
badbodh#vmware i think07:52
__john_doe__okay07:52
austin4312Hi! I would appreciate if you guys could help me out. Here is the problem I'm facing:07:54
austin4312So I am trying to get the Vino VNC Server to startup on boot, meaning I don't have to login to have the VNC Server start. I am on Ubuntu GNOME 15.04, and I have already added "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to 'Startup Applications'.07:54
austin4312However, the VNC Server still won't start as soon as I boot up. I have to login in order for the VNC Server to start. What should I do?07:54
badbodhaustin4312, 'startup applications' only run after login. what you need is some init script (or systemd?!) thingy to run at boot07:58
badbodhwhich ubuntu are you using ?07:58
austin4312badbodh Ubuntu GNOME 15.0407:58
austin4312badbodh How should I go about configuring a script for systemd?07:59
badbodhbeyond my level of comprehension austin4312 , you need an expert :D07:59
austin4312haha alright.07:59
austin4312Anybody able to help me out?07:59
badbodhor perhaps web search about systemd/boot/run-level thingies08:00
austin4312badbodh I've tried, but those that are for Vino specifically are very rare, and I have no idea how to modify those created for other VNCs.08:02
gabluhi any1 there?08:07
gablui just wanted a simple help08:07
jrc108:08
gabluhow to start a shell script at boot in linux without using the DM tools08:08
EriC^^a shell script after you login?08:10
gabluyup08:11
ikonialast jParkton08:12
ikoniaoops08:12
gablueric08:12
gablui wanted to start conky after boot (7 secs after Desktop loads) .. so i made a shell script08:12
gabluand placed it in /etc/init.d/08:12
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gabluthen i made a symlink ln -s /etc/init.d/script.sh /etc/rc.d/08:13
gabluany1 there?08:14
linuxuz3rhttp://www.twitch.tv/ps4playin08:14
jrc308:17
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EriC^^gablu: still there?08:38
teikonMy cursor is gigantic - system does not seem to respond to change in settings (14.04) - anyone know whats wrong?08:41
teikoncursor = mouse cursor08:42
yaccAny idea how to get an updated Intel video driver on 14.04?08:44
teikonyacc -> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers08:45
scatterphi can any one help me with sound i have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036508 and reinstall/upgrade now i am running 15.0408:47
teikon4K screen seems to corrupt my mouse cursor (way too large) . Cannot find any config that the UI responds too.08:48
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guser1Hi, where can I find a list of updates that are soon published / need to be reviewed in Offical ubuntu repos?   I am waiting especially for Thunderbird 3808:51
waltergiorno08:52
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MACscrwhat should i do if my menu.lst file isnt being updated with the newest kernel that apt-get is downloading? update-grub doesnt seem to phase it either08:54
MACscrim running 14.0408:55
lewis1711https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ - trying to download flash from here. I get an error message about "vivid-partners" not being known. and no, flashplugin-installer doesn't work (it errors out when failing to fetch an archive)08:57
lewis1711is there anywhere else I can get the raw .deb and do it myself?08:57
guser1lewis1711:Open Ubuntu Software Center and enbale partner repos ;)08:58
guser1lewis1711: At the software sources menu08:58
lewis1711guser1, thanks. there's nothing like that in my software center but Ishould be able to add it manually09:00
guser1lewis1711: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14629/how-do-i-enable-the-partner-repository09:01
MACscrlol, guess my grub is still 0.9709:02
MACscrthat seems a bit odd09:02
guser1lewis1711: just use vivid not maverick09:02
lewis1711guser1, yeah I meant to say that "partner repositories" isn't there, but I get the gist, find the text that activates it then do it manually09:02
OerHeksMACscr, if that is so, you have upgraded since 2012 .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading09:03
MACscrperfect. thanks!09:05
lewis1711getting the exact same popup. added the vivid partners to my sources.lst09:10
lewis1711did apt-get update, it added a bunch of stufff09:12
lewis1711https://gist.github.com/anonymous/996cbc84312e09b498c9 that's the output of download flashplugin-installer09:13
OerHeksthat plugin was for precise. and is deleted. so you didn't update ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/09:18
lewis1711OerHeks, weird. I did apt-get update09:19
lewis1711OerHeks, oh, I see what you were saying. the package name has changed09:21
OerHekslewis1711, that too, for all multimedia plugins, just install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package, flash, fonts, codecs and such09:22
mosesI cant get my nvidia drivers to save the config i edit09:25
OerHeksmoses, sure, go into nvidia settings, it has a button to produce an xorg.conf and option to save it.09:26
OerHeks2nd line xserver display configuration, 'save to x configuration file'09:27
ehemhey budies09:46
ehemcan you hear me?09:46
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lotuspsychjeehem, how can we help you?09:47
wisdomiaSup dudes, are there any math guys in here than can help me with a really annoying algorithm I am trying to come up with?09:47
lotuspsychjewisdomia, try the ##programming guys09:48
wisdomiathanks will do09:48
Guest77212I'm looked at my drive in a liveCD and some files were had different owner (user:1000) why?09:49
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OerHeksuser1000 is the user account number of the live session, perfectly normal.09:51
Guest77212How can I see that loggin into the harddrive install os. Which will be seen as 1000 in a liveCD. Because those files were locked.09:54
OerHeksGuest77212, what are you trying to do?09:54
Guest77212I want to restore file permission for files when I in the liveCD. Default user 1000 but it shows up as per in my install.09:56
Guest77212Some files are locke09:56
Guest77212Some files are locked09:56
OerHeksYes, 1st user on an installed ubuntu has usernumber 1000 too.09:57
OerHeksfiles are locked ... should be read only indeed on a live iso09:57
OerHeksi cannot help you there with filepermissions restoring09:57
Guest77212Some files on my harddrive install are locked, under home. Just some ordinary files.09:58
teikonanyone running ubuntu on a 4k monitor also has the problem of huge cursor size?09:59
lotuspsychjeGuest77212: what are you trying to do with those files?10:00
Guest77212Just, copy them, go into folder etc10:00
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Guest77212I will try to reset the files. Bye10:01
lotuspsychjeteikon: is the resolution normal?10:02
Guest15964Hello all. I have a bluetooth adapter that I am trying to  connect to my ubuntu laptop. Pairing is successful, but after pairing the device appears in sound settings and disappears immediately.10:02
BobbySteedThis appears to be a bug in 15.04. First time I installed Ubuntu Studio 15.04 I was able to mount my NTFS partitions, but subsequently I get "No object for D-Bus interface" when I try to mount them.10:02
teikonlotuspsychje everything not cursor related is normal.10:03
DaghdhaCorrect me if i am wrong but: Wasn't it possible to press a button on the 'Software Updater' dialog to update what updates need to be installed? I realy miss that because now i have to close it and restart it. Then i have the updated updates.10:03
DaghdhaI am pretty sure that was in the old one10:03
lotuspsychjeteikon: thats weird indeed, wich graphics driver loaded?10:03
teikonlotuspsychje running 2560x1440. The cursor graphics gets fuzzy when resizing. Driver is  driver=i915 latency=010:05
lotuspsychjeteikon: maybe this can help? http://superuser.com/questions/768830/mouse-cursor-scaling-issues-in-xubuntu-14-04-with-xfce-4-1010:06
fredrikHi, I've just installed a custom Ubuntu version in Virtualbox on a MacBook and I want to remap my left alt key. I want it to work exactly as the right alt key currently work10:06
Guest15964Hello all. I have a bluetooth adapter that I am trying to  connect to my ubuntu laptop. Pairing is successful, but after pairing the device appears in sound settings and disappears immediately. Does anyone know how to solve this?10:06
fredrikI've been trying to do this in xmodmap and I know that the left alt key has keycode 64 (and the right alt key 128). If I can figure out what the right alt key does in xmodmap's language, I can solve my problem. I need to run 'xmodemap -e "keycode 64 = <insert whatever keycode 128 is currently doing>"'10:07
fredrikI haven't been able to figure out that though -- anyone know?10:07
lotuspsychjeteikon: or this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/227292/huge-mouse-cursor-arrow-after-installing-nvidia-drivers10:07
teikonlotuspsychje thanks already tried that.10:07
EriC^^fredrik: you just say keycode 64 = name you get from right alt10:08
OerHeksteikon, logout/login after that tweak AFAIK10:08
EriC^^fredrik: type xev, then press right alt and see the name10:08
teikonlotuspsychje, im not using nvidia driver10:08
BobbySteedBug in 15.04? First time I installed Ubuntu Studio 15.04 I was able to mount NTFS partitions, but now I get "No object for D-Bus interface" when I try to mount them.10:09
EriC^^fredrik: mine is Alt_R10:09
lotuspsychjeteikon: try dconf-editor org.gnome.desktop.interface and maybe you can set cursor size10:09
teikonOerHeks, thanks tried it. No effect.10:09
OerHeksBobbySteed, check the health of that NTFS partition, or filecheck ( prefferably from windows)10:09
robbixAnybody know and prefer a dropbox alternative for linux?10:10
teikonlotuspsychje, already tried it. The cursor size is only set within program windows. The huge size is still there in nautilus, desktop and some other native apps.10:10
BobbySteedOerHeks, will do. I notice that 2 NTFS partitions will mount, 2 other ones won't.10:10
ehemhow can i move navigate between workspaces directly?10:11
lotuspsychjeteikon: not sure then sorry10:11
ehemi want to bind a shortcut "Alt+3" to move to workspace3 for example10:11
EriC^^ehem: wmctl10:12
EriC^^!info wmctl10:12
ubottuPackage wmctl does not exist in vivid10:12
ehem!findo wmctl10:12
ehem!info wmctl10:12
lotuspsychjeor ccsm?10:12
EriC^^!find wmctl10:13
ubottuPackage/file wmctl does not exist in vivid10:13
EriC^^could have sworn it was called that10:13
fredrikEriC^^: I did something stupid and now both my alt keys are useless. Must have done the opposite of what I intented to do. xev filled my terminal with lots of stuff so now I can't scroll back and see what the results were earlier when I used xev -- can I revert the changes somewhow?10:13
EriC^^!info wmctl trusty10:13
Gregor3000hello i need help with SSH i keep getitng the passphrase question: Authenticating with public key "imported-openssh-key" ; Passphrase for key "imported-openssh-key":10:13
ubottuPackage wmctl does not exist in trusty10:13
Gregor3000once i enter it it authenticates but when i exit and try to login again it asks for password again.10:13
Gregor3000i am using putty and i imported the linux key hence the comment -  "imported-openssh-key"10:13
ehemnvm im dumb haha10:14
EriC^^ehem: did you find it?10:15
EriC^^i think it's wmctrl10:15
EriC^^with an r10:15
ehemyeah it worked! thanks10:15
EriC^^fredrik: try setxkbmap -layout us10:17
fredrikEriC^^: I don't have a us layout and previously followed other changes. Must I redo those changes? *sigh*10:18
EriC^^fredrik: xmodmap isn't permanent10:18
fredriks/changes/steps10:18
EriC^^if you log out and back in i think the changes will disappear10:18
fredrikEriC^^: so a reboot should work?10:18
fredriklet me try10:18
lotuspsychjeteikon: you could test 4k screen on another grafix card perhaps?10:19
lotuspsychjeteikon: maybe its our intel card acting like this?10:20
teikonlotuspsychje, tested it on a radeon 7000M but it was not capable of achieving a high enough resolution.10:22
teikonlotuspsychje, im pretty sure its an ubuntu issue. Probably som old backend shizzle.10:23
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fredrikEriC^^: It's back to working. Will you please have a look at the different xev outputs to help with the command? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713229/10:23
lotuspsychjeteikon: maybe ubuntu grabs a bigger cursor when res goes over a higher value?10:24
EriC^^fredrik: xmodmap -e "keycode 64 = ISO_Level3_Shift"10:24
lotuspsychjeanyway bbl10:25
fredrikEriC^^: I believe this is the same command I typed earlier. I tried it again now and I'm back to having two ALT keys that doesn't work10:26
EriC^^fredrik: when you run xev and press alt what does it say?10:27
fredrikEriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713252/10:28
fredrikEriC^^: it now seems to return keycode 64 (rather than 92 as it used to) which is weird, because that is what the left alt key is10:29
EriC^^fredrik: you want the right alt to do as the left or left to do as the right?10:29
EriC^^you said the latter10:30
trollstationFredrik shut up10:30
fredrikEriC^^: the left to do as the right10:30
EriC^^?fredrik: ok what's xev output for left alt10:32
fredrikEriC^^: before I run the command, the right alt key works perfectly. After it stops working. I'm positive that the xev outputs corresponds to the correct buttons. Are we not just changing the left alt?10:32
fredrikEriC^^: coming up10:32
jsnowballhello! anyone knows a good tool to send/receive & analyse data to TCP sockets. I need something quite verbose10:32
trollstationJsnowball shut your mouth10:33
EriC^^fredrik: yeah that should set Alt_L to what Alt_R is10:33
EriC^^i just tried switching shift with home10:33
jsnowballtrollstation. ugh.10:33
fredrikEriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713276/10:34
EriC^^fredrik: it seems ok10:35
OerHeks!coc | trollstation, behave yourself10:35
ubottutrollstation, behave yourself: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv10:35
EriC^^fredrik: it's really odd Alt_R suddenly stopped working too10:36
EriC^^fredrik: try xmodmap -e "keycode 108=Alt_R"10:36
fredrikEriC^^: It seems to me that Alt_R should not change at all with the initial command (yet it does)10:37
trollstationOerheks what is coc?10:37
EriC^^fredrik: yeah, the keycode is the same though, it's still 10810:37
EriC^^it just says that it's also binded to keycode 64, which is correct10:38
fredrikEriC^^: The last command did affect the right alt key but not to what it's supposed to be10:38
EriC^^what's ISO_... anyways?10:38
BluesKajHowdy all10:38
trollstationHowdy wtf?10:39
BluesKajtrollstation, wtf nick :-)10:40
bazhangtrollstation, do you have an actual ubuntu support issue10:40
fredrikEriC^^: But the right Alt key used to have the following property 'XKeysymtoKeycode returns keycode: 92' after running xmodmap on left alt key (keycode 64) now the xev output of the right alt key (108) says that 'XkeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 64' -- is that not strange? It seems that right alt key no longer does something it used to do (and I want it to not change behaviour at all)10:40
trollstationBahzang yep10:40
fredrikEriC^^: in combination with 8 it make brackets and shift+8 it makes curly brackets10:40
fredrikEriC^^: as per usual mac os x keyboard behaviour (at last a norwegian one)10:41
EriC^^fredrik: i think that does a reverse on it10:42
EriC^^the XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 6410:43
EriC^^let me try some stuff10:43
fredrikEriC^^: Thanks. If not I'll try more later and ignore it for now. I just signed up for a computer science course and we're using this ubuntu mod in virtualbox,, it's just frustrating to learn new stuff when even the keyboard won't listen:/10:45
fredrikEriC^^: But settling with alwas just using the right alt key isn't the biggest drawback10:45
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EriC^^fredrik: yeah that's what it does10:45
EriC^^it looks up which keysums have that keycode, when i set shift to home, xev on home has XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 5010:46
EriC^^which is shift's keycode10:46
EriC^^fredrik: let me try setting another key to home and see what happens10:46
EriC^^and if shift still works as home10:46
fredrikEriC^^: ok. i'm assuming home works as before as well?10:47
EriC^^yeah it does10:47
EriC^^i set ctrl to it and now ctrl's keycode shows up in xev10:47
EriC^^but they all work as home still10:47
fredrikwhat bugs me the most is that running xmodmap on the left alt key somehow ends up upsetting the right alt key10:48
EriC^^fredrik: i guess that was another key that's set as Alt_R10:48
fredrikyeah10:48
fredriki by the way tried setting the left alt key to 'm' and it did not frustrate the right alt key10:49
fredrikso i'm not sure if i keep confusing the two all the time when running xmodmap (even thoughi've done this 3 times now, keeping it in mind, and having you independently suggestion a command)10:49
EriC^^fredrik: what did you say alt_r used to be instead of 64?10:50
fredrik9210:51
EriC^^xmodmap -pke shows that keycode  92 = ISO_Level3_Shift NoSymbol ISO_Level3_Shift10:51
EriC^^that's kind of interesting i guess10:51
EriC^^fredrik: what does xmodmap -pke say for you?10:52
fredrikSame as for you (92 and 108 is identical). 64 says: Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L10:53
fredrikI tried setting both 64 and 108, at the same time, to both of those outputs10:56
fredrikit ends up working in neither case10:56
EriC^^fredrik: try to close the window then open it10:56
EriC^^i tried setting shift to iso_level10:56
fredrikwhich window?10:56
EriC^^and it kept working as usual, then i set ctrl10:56
EriC^^anyways when i closed the terminal it stopped working, and now it seems to be like shift, except it only works for the numbers to get *&()10:57
EriC^^actually it isn't working in xchat, just in the terminal10:57
EriC^^is it supposed to be like shift but only for the upper numbers?10:58
fredrikEriC^^: i'm always testing in gedit in another window. the dummy i do is just setting either to a letter and it works immediately, so closing a window shouldn't make any difference10:59
EriC^^fredrik: try testing in a terminal10:59
fredrikEriC^^: no, shift gives a parenthesis, while alt gives a bracket10:59
EriC^^for some reason it isn't working in xchat for me10:59
fredrikEriC^^: works for 'm' in terminal as well.10:59
fredriki've spent two hours on this and must move on and accept a failure. I really appreciate the help, it's always astonishing how much good help one can get on IRC and elsewhere. Many thanks!11:00
EriC^^i think i get what it does11:01
EriC^^it's like pressing shift and control at the same time11:01
fredrikvery possible that that's the equivalent on a windows system11:01
EriC^^ok, no problem11:02
Guest15964Hello all. I have a bluetooth adapter that I am trying to  connect to my ubuntu laptop. Pairing is successful, but after pairing the device appears in sound settings and disappears immediately.11:02
MonkeyDustGuest15964  does the icon disappear, but the connection remains, or does the connection disappear?11:04
Guest15964MonkeyDust The connection remains, but disappears from the output devices list in sound settings11:05
MonkeyDustGuest15964  try blueman, you see it connected there?11:06
Guest15964MonkeyDust Yes blueman shows connected11:06
MonkeyDustGuest15964  then what's the issue exactly?11:07
Guest15964MonkeyDust Oh sorry after sometime it gets disconnected. The issue is that I cannot stream music to a bluetooth audio adapter11:08
Guest15964It pairs and connects and after a while it gets disconnected11:08
MonkeyDustok, that's different, unstable bluetooth, no clue...11:08
Guest15964MonkeyDust, Oh ok11:09
Guest15964MonkeyDust, Thanks11:09
harishkrupoGuest15964, is it working in windows or any other kernels?11:10
Guest15964harishkrupo, Yes it is working in windows11:10
harishkrupoGuest15964, which kernel are you using?11:11
harishkrupoversion11:11
Guest15964harishkrupo, 3.13.0-43-generic11:12
harishkrupoGuest15964, `uname -r`11:12
Guest15964harishkrupo, Thanks I just googled that :)11:12
harishkrupoGuest15964, try using a latest stable kernel (compile your own kernel from kernel.org) and see if it works , bluetooth driver bugs generally get fixed11:13
harishkrupoGuest15964, had the same issue with my bluetooth headphones11:14
Guest15964harishkrupo, Thanks11:18
Losutohi11:25
Losutohelp11:25
Losutohowi get11:28
Losutosmell of pussy out of my dick!11:28
EriC^^!info bleachbit11:29
ubottubleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (vivid), package size 255 kB, installed size 1965 kB11:29
austin4312Hi! I would appreciate if you guys could help me out. Here is the problem I'm facing:11:29
austin4312So I am trying to get the Vino VNC Server to startup on boot, meaning I don't have to login to have the VNC Server start. I am on Ubuntu GNOME 15.04, and I have already added "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to 'Startup Applications'.11:29
austin4312However, the VNC Server still won't start as soon as I boot up. I have to login in order for the VNC Server to start. What should I do? Do I need to create a systemd unit file? If so, how do I do it?11:29
Ben64don't use vino if you want to have vnc without logging in11:30
austin4312Ben64 Why not? Is there a reason?11:30
harishkrupoaustin4312, here is one example on how to write systemd unit files http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47695/how-to-write-startup-script-for-systemd11:30
Ben64it shares :0 normally, which is the main screen, and since it's not active yet really....11:31
MonkeyDust!vnc11:31
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX11:31
austin4312I tried to create a systemd unit file: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png11:32
ruben699Hello11:32
austin4312however, it gave me this error: "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it11:32
harishkrupoaustin4312, cant you just use automatic login so that vnc server automatically starts?11:33
austin4312i dont want to because it leaves my system vulnerable for 30 seconds11:34
harishkrupo30 seconds?11:34
austin4312harishkrupo btw do you known what's wrong with my systemd file?11:34
austin4312harishkrupo from auto login to auto screen lock, the fastest is 30 seconds11:35
habbasiaustin4312: Add a script to init.d that starts it up.11:35
austin4312habbasi I have no idea how to do that. Could you guide me?11:35
habbasiaustin4312: Be sure to add sudo -u /bin/bash if you want it to start up as another user.11:35
Ben64austin4312: if someone has physical access to the computer, its already vulnerable11:36
habbasiaustin4312: Oh, just move whatever you put in .bashrc to a file in /etc/init.d11:36
harishkrupobut does systemd support init.d11:36
austin4312habbasi i have no idea what you mean by that...11:36
ikoniasystemd is a totally different init system11:37
Ben64austin4312: or just use a different vnc server11:37
austin4312Ben64 I need to stay on Vino11:37
Ben64why11:37
austin4312Too long to explain here11:37
Ben64they all provide the same function, a remote desktop using the vnc protocol11:37
harishkrupook what is the problem with the script?11:39
austin4312it gave me this error: "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it11:39
ikoniawhat do you mean what is the problem with it ?11:40
austin4312ikonia i think he means why doesn't it work11:40
ikoniaperhaps more detail is required rather than "it doesn't work"11:40
harishkrupoyeah11:40
narkmansup11:41
austin4312ikonia First, this is my script: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png11:41
austin4312When I tried to save it, the terminal shows:  "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files"11:41
bekksaustin4312: Thats not a script, but the content of a desktop file.11:41
austin4312oh. im new to this. sorry11:41
bekksaustin4312: and a GTK-warning does not inhibit it from saving the file.11:41
ikoniaaustin4312: have you actually wrote this - or have you just copied this from somewhere ?11:42
austin4312copied and edited11:42
ikoniaaustin4312: so talking to the people who wrote it seems the logical step11:42
austin4312this is where i copied from: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/centos-how-tos/configure-vnc-server-on-centos-7-rhel-7.html11:42
harishkrupodid you edit it in gedit?11:42
austin4312harishkrupo11:42
austin4312yes11:42
harishkrupook then the problem is not with the script11:42
austin4312the people did not wrote it for Ubuntu GNOME 15.0411:42
harishkrupoit is just a gedit warning11:42
ikoniawhy is that script calling gedit11:43
ikoniait has nothing to do with gedit11:43
harishkrupono he is editing it in gedit11:43
ikoniathen why are you showing me the gedit warning as a problem with this file ?11:43
harishkrupotry opening gedit from terminal it will sometimes give that warning11:43
bekksAnd since it is a warning, it can be safely ignored.11:43
ikoniaI'm still waiting to hear the problem11:44
harishkrupojust save the file in /usr/lib/systemd/scripts/11:44
ikonialooks like a reasonably basic systemd unit11:44
bekksYou cannot save files as a regular user in that directory.11:44
bekksYou need to use gksu11:44
austin4312harishkrupo so just save it there and everything will work? oh and is my content of that file correct?11:44
harishkrupoand run systemctl enable "<name of script>"11:44
bekksaustin4312: you cannot save the file as a regular user there.11:45
austin4312bekks sudo cp?11:45
harishkrupoyeah11:45
bekksaustin4312: Yes.11:45
ikoniawhat is the problem with the script?11:45
ikoniayou keep saying it doesn't work11:45
ikoniacould you define doesn't work11:45
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jarnosI wonder why `dlocate /usr/bin/text2wave` prints nothing even if `dpkg-query -S /usr/bin/text2wave` prints "festival: /usr/bin/text2wave"?11:45
bekksikonia: The problem was the unability to save a file in a non-user-writable directory.11:45
ikonia??? but it was flagged as "the script doesn't work"11:46
austin4312first of all i saved it in /etc/systemd/system/vino-server.service11:46
bekksaustin4312: That directory isnt writable for users, too.11:46
austin4312so per harishkrupo 's suggestion, i will now try to save it in /usr/lib/systemd/scripts/11:47
austin4312so wahat should I do now? I thought sudo cp would work?11:47
harishkrupooh sorry not there here /usr/lib/systemd/system/11:47
bekksSave it in your home directory, and use sudo cp11:47
harishkrupomy bad11:47
harishkrupothat location is for scripts not service files11:47
austin4312lets slow down a little bit.11:48
austin4312does my file: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png looks correct?11:48
austin4312I used backticks and all, not sure if i should use quotes and such11:48
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austin4312harishkrupo btw /usr/lib/systemd/system/ does not exist, do you mean /etc/systemd/system ?11:50
harishkruposince you are passing the command as argument, dont use backticks11:51
austin4312if so, i've tried systemctl start vino-server.service, and it dosent work11:51
austin4312so what should i use?11:51
austin4312I've tried ' and " but none of them work.11:51
harishkrupothat is weird11:51
austin4312Perhaps you can try to write them and put them in pastebin?11:51
harishkrupobrb11:52
austin4312brb too11:52
harishkrupoaustin4312, http://wiki.call-cc.org/spiffy-systemd-scripts here is a good example11:59
ReptiliaI am having problems with the hibernate / suspend options on my laptop. When i am on AC and i close the lid, the laptop won't hibernate but will just only turn off the screen. On the contrary, when i am on battery power, the laptop will suspend when i close the lid. In both cases i am getting the following message: "Power Manager - not authorized" accompanied with an icon with "Z z" written on it. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks in advance.12:01
ReptiliaThis started happening after an update which i made approx. a week ago12:01
austin4312back12:02
austin4312harishkrupo I did have one myself, for Vino specifically. Probelm is, I don't know if the syntax is correct12:03
harishkrupoaustin4312, http://wiki.call-cc.org/spiffy-systemd-scripts here is a good example12:03
harishkrupook12:03
austin4312and whether or not it actually does its job12:03
harishkruporead that for a moment, till then i will try to find out why usr/lib/systemd doesnt exist12:04
austin4312ok12:04
kunjiIs it lightweight/reasonable to run a bash script from cron every 10 seconds (script just handles a file processing queue)?  This relates to Ubuntu because I'm asking about the performance in particular for the cron in Ubuntu 14.04, my impression is that this is fine, but maybe not?12:05
ikoniakunji: thats up to you12:06
ikoniayou know how much resource your jobs take12:07
ikoniacron in ubuntu is no different than cron on any other unix based platform12:07
kunjiikonia: I suppose I'm asking what overhead is involved in cron generally then?12:07
ikoniawhat overhead ?12:07
kunjiikonia: That answers my question then ^_^12:07
jrc112:07
harishkrupoaustin4312, no clue12:08
MonkeyDustkunji  with the 'watch' command you can monitor a processing queue every 10 seconds too, no need for cron12:08
kunjiMonkeyDust: Thanks, I'll check that out too.12:09
harishkrupoaustin4312, ok it is /lib/systemd/system12:09
austin4312harishkrupo so there is where my file should be?12:09
harishkrupoaustin4312, is that directory there ?12:10
austin4312harishkrupo yes12:10
danijelHi12:10
harishkrupoaustin4312, my problem is I use ubuntu 14.04 and i use systemd in my arch setup so i am not sure how ubuntu places its files12:10
austin4312ah i see...12:11
harishkrupoaustin4312, k then just place it there and then try starting it12:11
austin4312ok. trying it now12:11
harishkrupoaustin4312, not back tics12:11
austin4312harishkrupo what should it be then?12:12
harishkrupoaustin4312, also the files must be owned by root(i read it somewhere dont know why)12:12
harishkrupoaustin4312, double quotes ""12:13
harishkrupoaustin4312, because they are auguemts to /bin/sh -c12:13
austin4312harishkrupo for all three (execstartpre, execstart, and execstop)?12:13
harishkrupoaustin4312, yup12:14
austin4312alright. trying now12:14
austin4312harishkrupo it gave this in the terminal: "Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it. should i proceed, or is there something wrong with my code?12:15
harishkrupoaustin4312, just save it in your home directory and then sudo cp it to the destination12:16
harishkrupoaustin4312, it is a warning, ignore12:16
austin4312ok12:16
ikoniaaustin4312: if basic file managment is out of your level of understanding, you are going to struggle to maintain systemd unit files12:17
austin4312ikonia i don't plan to maintain it. I just need it to work past the initial setup12:17
ikoniayou are going to struggle then12:17
ikoniaif you don't understand the basics of file system permissions - this is going to fail for you12:18
austin4312ikonia Do you have a better solution for me then?12:18
ikoniaaustin4312: what is it you're actually trying to do/achieve ?12:18
austin4312I need the Vino VNC server to start when I power the machine on, without logging in first12:18
ikoniaaustin4312: why does it have to be vino12:19
ikoniawhy not one of the ones that is shipped/packaged by ubuntu ?12:19
ikoniathat way you open the package manager, click install, done12:19
austin4312Isn't vino preinstalled in ubuntu?12:19
ikoniaI don't know, is it?12:19
austin4312the reason would be too long to explain here12:19
austin4312vino is preinstalled12:19
ikoniaso why are you not using the supplied ubuntu init script ?12:20
ikoniawhat's the problem with it ?12:20
austin4312where can i find that?12:20
ikoniathere should be a systemd script supplied with it12:20
ikoniabefore you do anything, is vnc starting up on it's own ?12:21
ikoniaor does the init script not do that ?12:21
austin4312it does start up on its own12:21
austin4312but I have to login into the machine after powering it on first12:21
ikoniaso that suggests to me it's not being launched from init, but from your desktop session12:22
austin4312harishkrupo when I tried to do systemctl start vino-server.service, it gave me: "Failed to start vino-server.service: Unit vino-server.service failed to load: Invalid argument. See system logs and 'systemctl status vino-server.service' for details."12:22
austin4312ikonia So what should I do?12:22
ikoniaaustin4312: that error sugggests your script is wrong12:23
ikoniait's trying to pass an argument that isn't supported/valid12:23
harishkrupoaustin4312, ok can you pastebin your script?12:23
austin4312ok. doing it now.12:23
OerHekssystemctl status vino12:23
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austin4312the status command gave me: http://i.imgur.com/F8Fjc5d.png12:24
ikoniathis is not designed for ubuntu12:24
ikoniayou're using a script designed for fedora12:24
ikoniait would seem12:24
codepython777is there any chance apple would sell its laptops without its OS? :) (i prefer ubuntu as well) - I've been reading reviews of xps 13 and x1 carbon, but seems like the mac laptops are better built.12:24
ikoniacodepython777: that is nothing to do with this channel12:25
austin4312here is the script: http://pastebin.com/N69veuwC12:25
codepython777ikonia: i was hoping someone has recently gotten ubuntu on the x1/carbon/mac12:25
ikoniacodepython777: why ?12:25
austin4312ikonia yeah i copied it from a centos guide12:25
ikoniaaustin4312: it's not going to work then12:25
austin4312the guide: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/centos-how-tos/configure-vnc-server-on-centos-7-rhel-7.html12:25
austin4312Someone in #ubuntu-gnome suggested it to me12:25
ikoniaremove the word [service]12:26
austin4312he s/run/lead/ ubuntu gnome, according to him12:26
ikoniaremove network.target if you want a more agressive test12:26
ikoniaaustin4312: if he's suggesting it - he should be able to support it/fix it in seconds12:26
austin4312quote: "I barely have time to run Ubuntu GNOME atm "12:27
austin4312" sorry but I do not have time to provide individual user support "12:27
austin4312which is why im asking for help here12:27
ikoniaremove the word [service]12:27
ikoniaremove the network.target if you want an agressive test12:27
nico__ /budus macro setup12:28
austin4312ikonia so like so? http://pastebin.com/sEprpR4K12:28
ikoniayes12:28
YamakasYwill 32 bits package in 64bit ubuntu get issues ?12:28
ikoniacan do12:29
ikoniadepends how they are built12:29
harishkrupoaustin4312, i am writing the script12:29
austin4312harishkrupo thanks12:29
austin4312harishkrupo fyi in the script i provided, "b" is my username12:30
YamakasYikonia: ok I'm checking out  https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+build/700323612:30
austin4312ikonia im trying it out now12:30
jrcubuntu is good12:31
austin4312ikonia same error.12:31
harishkrupoaustin4312, is there a directory /lib/systemd/scripts12:32
austin4312harishkrupo no12:33
harishkrupoaustin4312, /etc/systemd/scripts?12:33
harishkrupoaustin4312, or /usr/lib/systemd/scripts12:34
austin4312no for /etc/systemd/scripts12:34
austin4312no too for /usr/lib/systemd/scirpts12:34
harishkrupoaustin4312, now thats bad12:35
harishkrupoaustin4312, ok one sec12:35
austin4312why so?12:35
austin4312no prob12:35
harishkrupoaustin4312, what is you home folder? echo $HOME12:36
austin4312harishkrupo /home/b12:36
YamakasYany help with building a sssd package ?12:38
harishkrupoaustin4312, http://pastebin.com/4TXD8wsC12:39
harishkrupoaustin4312, this is the script to start the server12:40
harishkrupoaustin4312, place it in your home folder /home/b12:40
harishkrupoaustin4312, also make it executable12:40
austin4312harishkrupo so do I have to explicitly call this script or does it run automatically on start up?12:40
harishkrupoaustin4312, oh name it vino-server12:41
austin4312extension?12:41
harishkrupoaustin4312, one sec uploading the service file12:41
austin4312ok12:41
austin4312so basically name it vino-server.service?12:41
harishkrupoaustin4312, http://pastebin.com/rHc5L1vB12:42
harishkrupoaustin4312, no name this as vino-server.service12:42
harishkrupoaustin4312, the previous one will be vino-server only12:42
austin4312ok. both of them in the home folder?12:42
harishkrupoaustin4312, the service file will go in the same place as the previous one12:42
jrcoops12:42
harishkrupoaustin4312, no the service file in /lib/systemd/system12:43
austin4312harishkrupo which one?12:43
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austin4312hold on im a little confused now.12:43
harishkrupoaustin4312, name the service file vino-server.service and place it in /lib/systemd/system12:43
austin4312first, where do I save this one at: http://pastebin.com/4TXD8wsC12:43
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harishkrupoaustin4312, that one will be at you home directory12:44
harishkrupoaustin4312, and make it executable12:44
harishkrupoaustin4312, finish that first12:44
austin4312alright saved the one in /lib/systemd/system12:45
austin4312how do i make it executable? whats the extension?12:45
harishkrupochmod o+x /home/b/vino-server12:46
harishkrupoaustin4312, oh there is a small change in the .service file12:46
austin4312just did the chmod command12:47
austin4312ok12:47
harishkrupoaustin4312, http://pastebin.com/vTmZ8x45 this is the edited service file12:48
harishkruponame this file vino-server.service and place it in /lib/systemd/system/12:48
austin4312harishkrupo alright just saved both of them. What's the next step?12:50
harishkrupotry starting it ...12:50
harishkruposystemctl start vino-server12:50
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austin4312Failed to start vino-server.service: Unit vino-server.service failed to load: Invalid argument. See system logs and 'systemctl status vino-server.service' for details.12:51
harishkruposystemctl  status vino-server.service12:52
ioriathis is for X11vnc , but maybe it can help : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#Have_x11vnc_start_automatically_via_systemd_in_any_environment_.28Vivid.2B-.2912:54
harishkrupoaustin4312, what is the output?12:54
austin4312harishkrupo http://i.imgur.com/mwu0vwm.png12:54
austin4312hmm... its refering to /etc/systemd/system12:55
OerHekssudo systemctl enable vino-server.service   maybe?12:55
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harishkrupoaustin4312, then place it there maybe12:56
austin4312Created symlink from /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/vino-server.service to /etc/systemd/system/vino-server.service.12:56
austin4312is the output12:56
harishkrupoaustin4312, no wait first copy the service file to /etc/systemd/system/12:57
harishkrupoand try starting it, if it works then enable it12:58
austin4312so: sudo cp /lib/systemd/system/ /etc/systemd/system/ ?12:58
harishkrupono12:59
harishkruposudo cp /lib/systemd/system/vino-server.service /etc/systemd/system/12:59
austin4312oops13:00
wayne__a13:02
harishkrupoaustin4312, after copying systemctl start vino-server13:02
austin4312b@b-linux-server:~$ systemctl daemon-reload13:02
austin4312b@b-linux-server:~$ systemctl start vino-server13:02
austin4312Job for vino-server.service failed. See "systemctl status vino-server.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.13:02
wayne__hello13:02
harishkrupook systemctl status vino-server.service13:02
austin4312harishkrupo http://i.imgur.com/6RAV32k.png13:03
wayne__what's this13:03
cfhowlett!topic > wayne__,13:04
OerHeksmaybe vino-server needs sudo to start13:04
harishkrupoaustin4312, looks like -geometry is wrong does vino have that option?13:04
blacksoulhi, I reinstalled an ubuntu based linux and on startup, it hangs a while loading "input: TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint as /devices/............." # 2 days ago, it didn't take so long, that's why I reinstalled my system, cause I couldn't find out the reason...13:05
harishkrupoOerHeks, systemd is running as root13:05
blacksoulany idea, why it takes ~30 sec to load the trackpoint?13:05
blacksoulor how to change it back to 1 sec?13:05
cfhowlettblacksoul, you are using something not ubuntu.  see your distro for support as it is not supported here.13:05
cfhowlett!flavors | blacksoul these are the only supported ubuntu distros13:05
ubottublacksoul these are the only supported ubuntu distros: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.13:06
harishkrupoaustin4312, try removing the -geometry option from the vino-server file in you home folder13:06
harishkrupoaustin4312, the new line would be /sbin/runuser -l b -c "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i"13:07
austin4312ok13:11
YamakasYcan anyone help me out building sssd from git ?13:11
harishkrupoaustin4312, try starting it again13:12
austin4312b@b-linux-server:~$ systemctl start vino-server13:12
austin4312Job for vino-server.service failed. See "systemctl status vino-server.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.13:12
harishkruposystemctl  status vino-server.service13:13
austin4312hold on im getting the status13:13
austin4312harishkrupohttp://i.imgur.com/W63tpCu.png13:14
austin4312harishkrupo http://i.imgur.com/W63tpCu.png13:14
harishkrupoaustin4312, this is the problem of vino, which i have no idea( i dont use vino)13:15
harishkrupo/sbin/runuser -l b -c "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i" try running this command from terminal13:16
austin4312it gives a13:17
austin4312>13:17
austin4312and i think it prompts me to type something?13:17
Ben64i don't have a /sbin/runuser13:18
Ben64do you?13:18
MonkeyDustaustin4312  have you tried something different from vino? maybe it's easier to use and configure13:18
austin4312i do13:18
austin4312the "Type" is program13:18
harishkrupoaustin4312, just try /usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i13:19
austin4312MonkeyDust i think i have to just give up on Vino already.... I've been trying for like 12 hours already...13:19
OerHekshe wants to run vino at boot, as far as i understand13:19
austin4312harishkrupo the output:13:20
austin4312(vino-server:3463): EggSMClient-CRITICAL **: egg_sm_client_set_mode: assertion 'global_client == NULL || global_client_mode == EGG_SM_CLIENT_MODE_DISABLED' failed13:20
austin4312** Message: The desktop sharing service is already running, exiting.13:20
Ben64austin4312: didn't i suggest giving up on vino quite a while ago13:20
harishkrupo:P13:20
austin4312actually, harishkrupo i think i should just give up on vino...13:20
austin4312yeah. thats what im going to do now i guess...13:21
austin4312hey harishkrupo, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for your assistance :)13:21
harishkrupook then but this time choose something that has the systemd service in it :P13:21
harishkrupoaustin4312, welcome13:21
unknown_userHello, there! How are you?13:21
austin4312what are the options?13:21
harishkrupoaustin4312, btw vino is running13:21
flopshowso what is up13:22
flopshowI love Ubuntu13:22
flopshowits free as in freedom13:22
austin4312yeah...13:22
harishkrupotigervnc13:22
cfhowlettflopshow, continue chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  this is the support channel.13:22
harishkrupothen kill vino and try again maybe one last time13:22
austin4312command to kill it?13:22
YamakasYsome pro's around ?13:23
harishkrupo"/usr/lib/vino/vino-server -kill %i > /dev/null 2>&1 || :"13:24
austin4312killed it13:26
austin4312systemctl start vino-server ?13:26
harishkrupono13:26
harishkrupo/sbin/runuser -l b -c "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i" try running this command from terminal13:26
austin4312it gave me this:13:28
austin4312>13:28
austin4312thats all13:28
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harishkrupopress ctrl+c13:30
harishkrupoand try this "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i"13:30
dearnHey guys, any way to make ubuntu boot a bit faster? It takes about 30 sec (from grub to login) on i7 cpu which feels bit long. I'm not sure which services in rcconf are safe to disable13:31
austin4312(vino-server:3463): EggSMClient-CRITICAL **: egg_sm_client_set_mode: assertion 'global_client == NULL || global_client_mode == EGG_SM_CLIENT_MODE_DISABLED' failed13:32
austin4312** Message: The desktop sharing service is already running, exiting.13:32
austin4312harishkrupo haha i think you and i are done with Vino already...13:33
harishkrupo"/usr/lib/vino/vino-server -kill %i > /dev/null 2>&1 || :" && "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i"13:33
harishkrupoyeah lol13:33
austin4312gtg now. FUCK Vino, and Thank You So Much for Your help!!! :D13:34
harishkruposeriously i need to know why vino???13:34
austin4312haha I MAY need to do this on LOTS of machine, and installing another vnc server seems problematic to mic, but its mostly just my laziness :P13:35
austin4312anywayss gtg now. bye!13:35
harishkrupook bye :P13:35
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DWSRHey all, I have installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 into a Hyper-V VM. I installed linux-virtual through apt but it is not being loaded by default and there is no grub menu to select which kernel I want. How do I remove all of the generic kernels from my system and force virtual?13:47
cfhowlettDWSR, might want to ask #ubuntu-server13:48
DWSRcfhowlett: Yeah, I'll recopy the question to there as well. Thanks.13:48
metalicehi everyone, im new to ubuntu and linux in general. what is the best way to learn all the basic of linux? bought a few books on amazon, waiting for delivery.13:49
DWSRmetalice: Books will probably help. Youtube videos are also great.13:50
cfhowlettmetalice, 1. stop buying.  SO MUCH free stuff e.g. www.fullcirclemagazine.org13:50
Johnny_Linuxread read play read13:50
cfhowlettmetalice, also, narrow your focus.  "learn linux"?  that could take LIBRARIES.  choose a narrow band to start with13:51
badbodhmetalice, a click here and a clickity there, voila you are a linux user13:51
badbodhJohnny_Linux, it should be: play play bork read fix play13:52
Johnny_Linuxexactly13:52
badbodhread read..pffft!13:52
cfhowlettLinux From Scratch to get really dirty ...13:53
badbodhtoo much dirt. no need to scare a new guy13:53
cfhowlett:)13:53
Johnny_Linuxive been doing linux 10 yrs now, back in 04 my 2kpro machine broke, so i took the plunge and never looked back.13:53
metalicethank for the comments, im already a ubnutu user, for 4 months or so.. i have a B.Sc in CS so im not new to linux so much, but i would like to know more, i dont have a special idea of direction in linux i want to focus on, yet. i need to learn all the basic staring how linux ticks in depth and shell scripting, etc...13:54
DWSRmetalice: You should really pick an area and focus on it.13:54
Johnny_Linuxna13:55
DWSRIf you want to learn about the inner workings of the Kernel, then go that route.13:55
cfhowlettmetalice, then I reiterate: Linux From Scratch will teach you how to build your very own linux distro ...13:55
Johnny_Linuxjust pick ubuntu, play with it, come here, learn13:55
Johnny_Linuxthere is about a dozen or so folks in here that know their stuff and will be glad to help.13:58
DWSRThat's kind of insulting to the other ~1k users that are in here. :P13:59
Johnny_Linuxonly if you have a small mind13:59
badbodh500+ are actually bots johnny13:59
Johnny_Linuxprolly13:59
bgchi friends i have two partitions on my ubuntu desktop one of system ( / ) the other one my data mounted in ( /media/data) but i cant see my files while i want to open it says you dont have permission to see please help im new on ubuntu13:59
metalicethanks guys! :)14:00
badbodhbgc, type "lsblk" in terminal and share on paste14:00
bgcbadbodh, sda      8:0    0 698,7G  0 disk14:01
bgc├─sda1   8:1    0   350M  0 part [SWAP]14:01
bgc├─sda2   8:2    0 248,8G  0 part /14:01
bgc└─sda3   8:3    0 449,5G  0 part /media/data14:01
bgcsr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom14:01
badbodhdon't flood here, paste on some pastebin and give us the link14:01
MonkeyDustbgc  use this http://paste.ubuntu.com/14:02
Johnny_Linux!pastbinit14:02
badbodhpaste.ubuntu.com is it?14:02
bgcim sorry im new14:02
Johnny_Linux!pastbinit | bgc14:02
badbodhok14:02
badbodhnp14:02
metalicewhat is the IRC app that your are using on ubuntu?14:02
DWSRbgc: It's considerd good ettiquette to paste something longer than 2 lines to something like a pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu.com) and then post a link to the paste here. This helps keep the amount of text in the channel down14:03
astroboyi'll ask about 'scrot' command, How to specify width of output image??14:03
badbodhbgc, go to /etc folder, open file 'fstab' and paste its contents on pastebin14:03
badbodhshare link14:03
bgchttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11714249/14:03
badbodhbgc, ^^ fstab too14:04
bgcim so sorry friend14:04
bgcbadbodh, folder is empty14:05
badbodhJohnny_Linux, any list of all the !commands you folks use ?14:05
zhongfumetalice: I used to use xchat but now I use quassel because of quasselcore and quasseldroid14:06
Johnny_Linuxi plead the 5th14:06
badbodhbgc, /etc/fstab file, it is a text file14:06
DWSRQuassel <314:06
badbodhcan't be empty14:06
metalicezhongfu: thanks ill try it. is there a way at quassel to change setting or filter chats so it wont show all the incoming and outgoing users and only show content of conversations?14:07
bgcbadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714272/14:07
badbodhJohnny_Linux, just the ones for info. like the pastebin thingy you gave right now. i've seen folks using them for generic info14:07
DWSRbgc: sudo cat /etc/fstab <-- run this in a terminal and paste the output14:07
Johnny_Linuxthey are built in the bot, i dont have a written list per say14:07
DWSRbgc: nevermind, that works too14:08
zhongfumetalice: I can't find one in quasselclient, but there might be something like that in xchat14:08
zhongfumetalice: oh wait, nix that, I found it14:08
jrc314:08
bgcDWSR, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714272/14:08
metalicezhongfu: gr8 thanks man14:08
zhongfumetalice: you can hide joins/parts/quits/nick changes/mode changes/topic changes and more14:09
badbodhfstab seems to be in order, although i never use 'defaults' for data partition14:09
badbodhbgc, what exact error message did you get ?14:09
bgcbadbodh, "BGC" içeriklerini görmek için yeterli yetkiniz yok. it is türkçe14:10
InokiHi all. How do I list all "libreoffice" packages currently installed? What's the command? (similar to what you'd do in Synaptic by typing in the search field "libreoffice" and then sorting according to what's installed)14:11
metallicohi guys, my ubuntu VM stopped working and now it hands on boot screen. Here is my syslog: http://pastebin.com/Gvtv8k0t14:11
cfhowlettInoki, dpkg -l | grep libreoffice14:11
metallicoit hangs*14:11
zhongfuInoki: you can try using "sudo dpkg -L | grep libreoffice" i think14:11
badbodhbgc, if you know how to edit that file with root access, you may change "/media/data" to "/mnt/data" instead. /media for removable drives, /mnt for internal hdd14:11
zhongfuwhoops, -l (lowercase) not uppercase14:11
cfhowlettzhongfu, no sudo needed.  don't sudo if you don't need sudo14:11
zhongfucfhowlett: ah I see, thanks14:12
InokiOh, nice, thanks! And making it as output to a file I can use dpkg -l | grep libreoffice > libreoffice.txt?14:12
badbodhbgc, if you want to mount something in /media, it needs to be in /media/<username>/data not /media/data14:12
badbodhelse only root will be able to use it14:12
zhongfuInoki: yep14:13
Inokizhongfu, cfhowlett, thanks again!14:13
cfhowlettInoki, happy2help!14:13
bgcbadbodh, how can i change mnt from media14:15
drmagooHey, anyone here any good with conky. I'm trying to modify this conkyrc http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714244/, to only display time and date and it does that now. But the bottom half of the "window" is filled with  empty space, anyone have a suggestion on how to remove that empty space and make the window smaller?14:15
kunjidrmagoo: set the maximum_height?14:16
badbodhbgc, first open terminal and type "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-copy"14:17
InokiAlso, can you guys recommend a database with all commands that has a search? - in case I need to look up information about a command. Or you recommend simply using man <command>?14:17
badbodhalways backup your system file before changing14:17
bgcbadbodh, ok14:18
kunjiInoki: The database commands mostly conform to SQL and the documentation for each one will cover the cases where it does something unusual.14:18
badbodhbgc, then "gksu gedit" to open editor, drag-n-drop fstab file on it14:18
drmagookunji: tried that, conky ignores it / doesnt make any diffrence14:19
kunjiInoki: For instance, MySQL Docs: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/14:19
bgcbadbodh, then14:20
Inokikunji: thank you, but I was more aiming towards a site with all the terminal commands and their explanations :) Perhaps I should've rephrased my Q properly, my bad.14:20
kunjiInoki: But you don't use terminal commands for your database...14:20
badbodhbgc, now look for the line "UUID=4fb6cdca-5642-4684-8a63-42a7f5e9ed1d /media/data     ext4    defaults        0       2"14:20
badbodhline 11 in your pastebin link14:20
badbodhchange "/media/data" to "/mnt/data"14:21
kunjiInoki: Aside from SQL itself that is... which is what I linked to for the implementation of MySQL.14:21
Inokikunji: nono, I don't need help with a particular database. I was looking for a database (a site of some kind), that contains explanation of every linux terminal commands.14:21
cfhowlettInoki, man man    for starters14:21
bgcbadbodh, then14:21
badbodhsave and reboot, see if you can access14:22
badbodhif not then i may have one more suggestion, but that's later14:22
Inokicfhowlett, kunji: I want to become proficient in using the terminal ;) So just man man, I'll start with that then, thank you.14:22
bgcbadbodh, thanx a lot  bro now i will reboot :D14:23
badbodhbgc, before rebooting share fstab on pastebin just to check14:23
kunjiInoki: Ohhh, gotcha.  The man pages cover a lot but they can be a bit cryptic.  I just search online when I encounter a new command.  It's not a database, but the nixcraft site is really good http://www.cyberciti.biz/14:23
kunjidrmagoo: Is what is displayed just a few lines?14:24
bgcbadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714383/14:24
InokiAlso, I've found this http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php, but it doesn't contain a search field. And nice, now I got another one. Thanks kunji!14:24
bunty#ubuntu-touch14:24
badbodhbgc, ok reboot. i hope you were careful while editing, accidentally altering the UUID's will cost you :D14:25
cfhowlett!touch | bunty14:26
ubottubunty: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch14:26
badbodh!pastebinit | badbodh14:26
ubottubadbodh, please see my private message14:26
drmagookunji: I haven't been able to figure out what causes that empty space.14:26
kunjidrmagoo: Nvm, it's x then y right, I was thinking for a second that 150 was your min height there...14:26
bgcbadbodh,  :D thnx again i hope i wont smell burning hdd :D14:27
kunjidrmagoo: Sorry, it's been too long since I played with Conky, hopefully someone else knows.14:27
badbodhit won't burn, explode perhaps14:27
badbodhnow shoo reboot14:27
bgcbadbodh,  :D14:27
Johnny_Linuxyouve got to be from the U.K14:27
drmagookunji: thank you anyway =)14:28
badbodh!stupidity | badbodh14:31
bgcbadbodh, file location changed but again i cant see my files permission error14:31
bgchow can i login as a root14:32
badbodhbgc, could you change your system language to english and show me the error message14:32
cfhowlett!root | bgc14:32
ubottubgc: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo14:32
badbodhno no, you shall not root14:32
kunjiHe can sudo su... though I wouldn't recommend doing so too much.14:33
badbodhbgc, forget about root, that isn't the right way. for now just change language and show me error mssg14:33
bgci dont understand what u mean with root i used before kali linux and i was login with root and i can reach everything14:34
badbodhin ubuntu/debian systems you don't login as root14:34
badbodhuse sudo for a root command, or sudo -s for root shell. perios14:34
badbodh*period.14:34
zykotick9badbodh: well, in ubuntu systems...  debian is different14:34
bgcbadbodh, i will reboot and come again14:35
badbodhzykotick9, how? they don't allow logging in as root either, from login managers that is (gdm/lightdm...)14:36
badbodhonce upon a time they did14:36
zykotick9badbodh: that's a DM issue.  Debian prompts for root password during install.14:36
badbodhpfft! you can set root pass in ubuntu too14:37
badbodhopen root shell with sudo -s and type 'passwd'14:37
codepython777i've a bunch of ubuntu boxes that i want to keep synced in terms of apt-get installs. How can i do this?14:37
kunjiOf course you can, it doesn't mean you should14:37
metalice_thanks for the offer for quassel, works great :)14:38
bgcbadbodh, error message is "This location could not be displayed You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of “BGC”.14:38
kunjicodepython777: Figure out your syncing scheme and write a script for them to communicate that to each other over headless ssh.14:38
badbodhok bgc . same drill, open fstab and edit.14:38
kunjibgc: Those ones are obnoxious, I usually sudo su to access them, but if it's a script you can just run it with sudo.  Better though is if you run it as the proper owner of the folder.14:39
zykotick9kunji: "sudo su" is bad form.  "sudo -i" if you _need_ (you don't) a root terminal.14:40
badbodhkunji, srsly stop this root-ism, this ain't proper :/14:40
Johnny_Linuxthere are several ways to root, not recommended14:41
kunjiThanks zyko, I've been using sudo su because I couldn't remember the other way, remind me of the difference though.14:41
bgcbadbodh, what will i do now14:41
metalice_zykotick9: whats the different between sudo su and sudo -i ?14:42
badbodhbgc, open terminal and type "id" and enter. what is your uid= ?14:42
badbodhusually it is 100014:43
zykotick9kunji: "sudo su" is gonna have a messed up environment...  it's using 2 different systems to elevate privs...14:43
kunjibadbodh: I'm not trying to promote doing things as root, it was my "hack" to access a www-data owned folder.  I'm not sure why you can't sudo www-data and access it...14:43
zykotick9kunji: sidenote, you can use TAB in most clients to autocomplete nicknames in IRC14:43
astroboyHow to specify width of output image using 'scrot' command??14:44
kunjizykotick9: nice ^_^14:44
bgcbadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714481/14:44
badbodhbad dog, bad dog kunji :/ don't teach it to others atleast14:44
huighello, i am on ubuntu 14.04 and wanna upgrade to ubuntu 15.xx. do i need to backup my files?how can i upgrade it without downloading the .iso?14:44
kunjibadbodh: ok, np, but what is the proper way to access such a folder?14:44
badbodhbgc, replace "defaults" in that same line with "rw,auto,noexec,uid=1000"14:44
kunjiI would like to do it the right way14:45
badbodhbgc, i am assuming you have only single-user system14:45
cfhowletthuig, yes you backup.  you need to use the eolupgrade option.14:45
cfhowlett!eolupgrade | huig14:45
ubottuhuig: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:45
huigcfhowlett, but backing up is for 'just in case', or because i will really need to get my files back14:46
bgcbadbodh, yes i m single user i dont have girlfriend :D14:46
badbodhkunji, proper gentleman's way is to chown and chmod14:46
bgcbadbodh, i editted14:46
badbodhbgc, multi users need gid=1000 instead of uid=1000, that's why. your gf is irrelevant :D14:47
kunjibadbodh:  Err, every time you need to change something in it?  Because the web server is the proper owner of that folder and it should not be my user's.14:47
badbodhok save and reboot bgc14:47
badbodhagain, share the paste once14:47
bgcbadbodh, :D i cant save14:47
badbodhbgc, didn't you "gksu gedit"? yougotta remember the steps :/14:48
cfhowletthuig, just for fun, assume you files get lost and that you were too ... lazy ... to do a proper backup.  imagine you come back to this channel to explain the dire situation.  imagine the complete lack of sympathy that you'll get in the face of your self-inflicted damage by rejecting the advice that is ALWAYS given: thou shall backup14:48
Johnny_Linuxlol14:48
bgcbadbodh, im sorry14:48
kunji!recovery14:49
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode14:49
kunjiHmm, not the recovery I was looking for14:49
badbodhfor cli apps : sudo <command>, for gui apps : gksu <command> write down14:49
badbodhkunji, everytime? pfft. once you go chmod you never go back14:50
kunjibadbodh: But my user is not supposed to own that folder14:50
badbodhthen just chmod, don't chown14:50
kunjibadbodh: The permissions should not be any more relaxed14:51
badbodhwell ok. you are oppressive :P14:51
huigcfhowlett, haha i understand it, i am doing the back up. the question was just for knowking if they upgrade would remove my files or not14:52
cfhowletthuig, no but mistakes happen.  for instance, accidentally formatting /home WOULD wipe the files14:52
kunjibadbodh: Hmm, well, case by case, but I really think this set should be oppressed as the data may be sensitive.14:52
huigcfhowlett, the upgrade won't automatically install ubuntu on the partition i already have for ubuntu or do i have to specify it this time too?14:53
cfhowletthuig, an upgrade *should* use the existing partitions14:53
conorMcGregor9is keys.gnupg.net offline?14:54
huigcfhowlett, that is what i also expect. did not happen when i upgraded mac osx14:54
badbodhbgc, lost in the woods ?14:54
kunjiMy last few upgrades have been mostly problem free, hopefully yours as well huig.  They do take longer than a fresh install though :/14:54
huigkunji, well i also hope that. my last upgrade just destroyed the other partitions and removed my files14:55
bgcbadbodh, ok im ready to reboot14:56
badbodhtatatat, share pastebin first14:56
conorMcGregor9is it possible to move the side panel?14:56
bgcbadbodh, do u want to check anything14:56
badbodhyes bgc14:57
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xanguaconorMcGregor9: if you mean unity launcher, no14:58
bgcbadbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714533/14:58
badbodhok, pray and reboot14:58
bgcbadbodh, :D:D14:59
trollstationUbuntu is fucking wank hahaha jokers15:03
badbodhkick in 3...2...1...15:03
trollstationNo15:03
badbodh:/ double standards15:03
badbodhbgc, still no luck ?15:06
bgcbadbodh, http://imgim.com/img_20150614_180101.jpg15:07
bgcbadbodh, laptop is burning :D15:07
badbodhwoops, recovery mode then.15:07
badbodhtime for the nuke option15:07
badbodhM15:07
bgcbadbodh, recovery ? how can i recovery15:09
badbodhbgc, press M like it says15:09
bgcbadbodh, i pressed s :(15:10
badbodhno problem15:10
badbodhwill take longer, that's all15:10
bgcok i will try now15:10
badbodhopen terminal , "sudo mv /etc/fstab-copy /etc/fstab" this will restore your original fstab15:11
badbodhBGL, ^15:11
badbodhOH HE'S GONE15:11
al2o3-crcan anyone tell me what version of LUA comes with 15.04?15:13
InterNICbadbodh: What have you done?15:13
badbodhlooks like he will go to recovery all by himself15:14
jbnloshmy laptop randomly drops wifi connection , and then it needs 2-3 minutes to reconnect15:14
badbodhInterNIC, he'll be back :D15:15
jbnloshits really annoying15:15
InterNICjbnlosh: have you tried disabling the wifi, then re-enabling it? Sometimes that works to settle it down.15:16
jbnloshyeah i did , doesnt help15:17
InterNICBroadcom I guess?15:18
racarInterNIC, jbnlosh i have a Broadcom and some stability issue. Didn'T find any solution but for now if i have 2 network adapter, it looks like the first one is stable but the second one not, so at least, i always have one working.15:19
jbnloshnope im not using broadcom , whatever that is :D15:20
ikoniahow do you know you're not using it if you don't know what it is15:21
QwertyDragonal2o3-cr on my Lubuntu 15.04 these are available:The program 'lua' can be found in the following packages: * lua5.1 * lua5.2 * lua5015:24
al2o3-crQwertyDragon: thanks, that what i needed to know :)15:25
jbnloshikonia guess i would be atleast know something abut it if its on my computer15:26
ikoniajbnlosh: no you wouldn't15:27
ikoniahence why "I don't know what that is"15:27
ikoniait seems stupid to say you are / are not using something when you don't even know what it is15:28
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jbnloshwell what is it , and how can i check am i using it then?15:29
ikoniait's a chipset of your network card15:30
ablest1980anyone get unity update?15:30
ikoniawhat update ?15:30
ikoniaablest1980: why don't you state your real question, as people will be doing different things on different versions15:30
ablest1980nvm15:30
MonkeyDustjbnlosh  paste this in a terminal... paste the outcome here   gbachot@ubuntu-laptop:~$ lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network | grep controller15:31
MonkeyDustoops15:31
MonkeyDustthis: lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network | grep controller15:31
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jbnloshMonkeyDust:  02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:b723]15:33
mekhamiany weechat users? I'm getting really strange behavior on weechat (compared to very simple from os x)15:37
jbnloshim on webchat , nothing strange15:38
jak2000hi all15:41
darthanubishi15:41
JonnyClox*facerubs* All of a sudden my system decided it was going to boot 1400x1050 instead of 1920x1080 for no reason and not give me the option to change. Any ideas why? Running KDE.15:41
jak2000how to disable, my server sleep, i dont want the server sleep, tahnks15:41
JonnyCloxHi there.15:41
mekhamijbnlosh: not webchat, weechat =P15:43
KmorHi. If I browse the internet and send requests to webservers - the answers from the webservers reach my system although I don't have an open port. Which program is managing this?15:43
maziarwhen i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ?15:44
alumno__hola15:44
TJ-Kmor: You're incorrect. Your system opens a socket and makes a continuous connection to the server's listening port until your system decides it doesn't need to ask for more data.15:44
KmorTJ-: But which program does this connection tracking by default?15:45
maziarwhen i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ?15:45
chebithola15:46
TJ-Kmor: The web browser opens a local socket on an ephemeral port number (a 'random' port) and makes an outgoing connection to the HTTP server's port 80. Once the connection is established the web browser sends Requests and the serve sends Responses.15:46
jak2000chebit any advice?15:46
chebit:) let me read the question15:47
KmorTJ-: Yes, I know how it works. What I mean: Which module/program/process is handle this?15:48
chebitlazy server .)15:48
chebithttp://askubuntu.com/questions/47311/how-do-i-disable-my-system-from-going-to-sleep15:49
chebitthe server is like the owner, lol15:49
TJ-Kmor: The web browser!15:49
BuzzardBuzzchebit -> lol15:50
maziarwhen i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ?15:50
BuzzardBuzzinstall app from repo might work better15:51
timbozemanwow, htpc in ubuntu is hard. Can't seem to get a decent resolution. Most of the solutions on google say to use modelines or xrandr, but none seem to be respected by nvidia15:51
TJ-maziar: Is there something wrong with the version of nginx in the Ubuntu archive?15:51
ltkhow to don't display the "Quit:xxx  xxx" messages?15:52
maziarTJ-, i want to compile it frome source , for openresty15:52
SchrodingersScatltk: depends on your irc client, can search for removing join/parts15:52
TJ-maziar: Then you need to ask the nginx developers if the build fails; your pastebin suggests a problem in the nginx build script15:53
jak2000friends, pls how to disable, my server sleep, i dont want the server sleep, tahnks15:53
maziarTJ-, its not nginx problem its ubuntu problem , if you dont know the solution please let other person answer15:53
BuzzardBuzzjak2000 your solution was already posted by chebit, did you not read it?15:54
TJ-timbozeman: if you need to manually specify modelines that indicates the monitor is not providing EDID data to the system, or incorrect EDID. Is that the issue you're facing?15:54
jak2000BuzzardBuzz yes but isnt correct15:54
BuzzardBuzzthe faq is wrong?15:54
mekhamiin gnome-terminal, with weechat, it seems gnome-terminals keybindings are overriding the ones that i should have in weechat. is there a way to let the terminal application keybindings override gnome-terminals?15:55
TJ-maziar: I'm an Ubuntu developer and I've read your pastebin. I know what I'm talking about. Your problem is "Makefile:932: recipe for target 'Makefile' failed"15:55
jak2000BuzzardBuzz: <chebit> the server is like the owner, lol15:55
KmorTJ-: But UDP for example is stateless. So, is netfilter doing connection tracking?15:55
maziarTJ-, then pkease let some one who no the answer , answer me15:55
timbozemanTJ-:  I think so. 1080i was the setting I used in windows, but that doesn't seem available. 1920x1080 has overscan15:55
TJ-maziar: My point is, your issue is not an Ubuntu support issue, it is nginx specific.15:56
TJ-timbozeman: Are you using the nvidia proprietary driver? What does "xrandr -q" report (can you pastebin it) ?15:56
maziarTJ-, no i dont accept your oponion15:56
maziarwhen i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ?15:56
ikoniamaziar: he is correct15:57
ikoniamaziar: you are custom building software - the build is not happening15:57
ikoniadebug the build15:57
TJ-ikonia: Thanks :)15:57
ehemhey guys I dont know if you can help me, I'm using Mint but their IRC channel seems to be very spacious.15:57
ehemwhen i move to a new workspace I want to see the name of it, currently its only doing that when i navigate using "Ctrl+Alt+Arrows", and not "Alt+[number]" which i set in the keyboard -> shortcuts settings15:58
ikoniaehem: please take it to the mint channel15:58
TJ-jak2000: Is there anything in the server's logs to indicate why it is going to sleep? I'd check '/var/log/auth.log" for commands being issued, "/var/log/kern.log" and "/var/log/syslog" - look at the reports timestamped just before the server goes to sleep, you might find some clues.15:58
ehemikonia: i couldnt get an answer from there.15:59
ikoniaehem: then wait for an answer in there15:59
c0mbra1nhai15:59
jak2000ok TJ- thanks i checked15:59
jak2000i check and return15:59
ehemikonia: how long?15:59
ikoniaehem: as long as it take16:00
ikoniawe don't support mint here16:00
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ehemikonia: what if no one answers, can i ask here then?16:00
ikoniano16:00
* TJ- books a table at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, just for ehem :)16:00
ikoniamint is NOT supported here16:00
ehemikonia:why not?16:00
ikoniaehem: because this is ubuntu support16:01
timbozemanTJ-: I tried the proprietary driver for a day or so then switched to a current open source version. Here's the xrandr -q output http://pastebin.com/4McLkyD916:01
TJ-timbozeman: so this pastebin result is obtained whilst using nouveau?16:02
BuzzardBuzzi would guess that you can get good mint support in the PCLOS channel for your question ehem16:03
BuzzardBuzztexstar would help you16:03
timbozemanTJ-: that pastebin is with nvidia binary driver 346.72 (open source)16:04
TJ-timbozeman: That output suggests the monitor should be able to select 1920x1080@60Hz, but it does have an option for @24Hz ... is that your problem, it only selects @24Hz if you select 1920x1080 ?16:04
ehemBuzzardBuzz: wel there are only 8 people in there but I asked anyway.16:05
TJ-timbozeman: Oh, OK. I'd hope  nouveau would show the same; shouldn't make a difference16:05
timbozemanTJ-: correct. I get a black screen selecting 1920x1080@60hz thorugh the nvidia-settings UI and 24hz looks bad. Selecting 1920x1080 @ 60.1 with xrandr seems to work, but doesn't stick and has overscan16:06
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maziarikonia, can you help me about this problem ?16:06
timbozemanTJ-: I got it to look right with 1280x720 and some viewport settings in xorg.conf, but it was laggy video so that's probably not right either16:07
TJ-timbozeman: That suggests a problem with the monitor mis-reporting EDID... can you pastebin the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" which might show us any mode-reporting issues16:07
IP92where can I set the default profile for my terminal?16:07
bgcbadbodh, i came16:08
reisioIP92: profile?16:08
badbodhbgc, you're alive!16:08
IP92reisio, yes, when right clicking inside terminal, there's the profiles16:08
TJ-timbozeman: Is the monitor connected on a pure HDMI interface all the way, or is it HDMI to DVI-D or HDMI to DisplayPort?16:08
bgcbadbodh, yes16:08
IP92I've got the default and one another, how can I make the other one default?16:08
timbozemanTJ-: HDMI all the way16:08
bgcin recovery there is no change16:08
conorMcGregor9i have an application i downloaded, it just sits in a folder, i usually run with ./filename, is it possible to add this app to the launcher?16:08
TJ-timbozeman: OK, let's look at that Xorg.0.log thewn16:09
reisioIP92: for gnome-terminal?16:09
IP92reisio, yes16:09
BuzzardBuzzxrandr --newmode "1920x1080"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync16:09
BuzzardBuzzxrandr --addmode Virtual1 1920x108016:09
BuzzardBuzzxrandr --output Virtual1 --mode 1920x108016:09
badbodhbgc, no problem just "sudo mv /etc/fstab-copy /etc/fstab" and changes will be reverted16:09
IP92reisio, nvm, found it16:10
bgcbadbodh, ok i copied now im rebooting16:10
badbodhreboot and get back, i just learned uid= doesn't work with ext416:10
bgcbadbodh,  :D16:10
badbodhso we both are learning :P16:10
bgcbadbodh,  :D16:11
reisioIP92: gj16:11
timbozemanTJ-: tyvm for looking into this! pastebin.com/jtvpmA5f16:11
TJ-timbozeman: The xrandr output you showed looks wrong to me, in that every mode being offered except 1920x1080 is based on VESA SVGA modes with 4:2 aspect. I'd expect a clean HD monitor to offer modes like 1680x1050 and 1280x960 and so on16:12
timbozemanhttp://pastebin.com/jtvpmA5f16:12
TJ-timbozeman: Aha! "(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): The EDID for SONY TV (DFP-1) contradicts itself: mode"16:12
timbozemanrawr16:13
BuzzardBuzz:)16:13
timbozemanTJ-: good call :)16:13
bgcbadbodh, ok everything turned back16:13
TJ-timbozeman: Now lets have the exact model of that Sony TV16:13
bgcbadbodh, any other solution16:14
badbodhso your drive is back to /media/data ?16:14
timbozemanTJ-: It's a sony bravia 50 inch back projection type, should I get a serial number?16:14
bgcbadbodh, yes media data16:14
TJ-timbozeman: The exact model number; those brand names Bravia and sizes aren't usually enough. The serial number sticker will usually have model number code too16:15
IP92for some reason my ls doesn't show any colors anymore. anyone knows why?16:15
badbodhbgc, do "sudo chown -R <username> /media/data" and "sudo chown -R <username> /media/data/*"16:15
TJ-timbozeman: E.g. KDF-50E201016:15
badbodhreplace <username> with whatever your name is, example "sudo chown -R bgc /media/data"16:16
timbozemanTJ-: KDF-50E300016:16
TJ-timbozeman: I suspect the issue is the TV only supports 720p HD not full 1080p HD16:16
TJ-timbozeman: OK, the manual says I'm wrong on that! That's helpful (for you)16:17
timbozeman:D16:17
badbodhbgc, no need to reboot this time. but this is a 'rude' command :P16:17
bgcbadbodh, ok then16:17
badbodhnow open your folders16:17
bgcbadbodh,  :D :D :D16:17
bgcbadbodh,  thnx a lot :D :D :D working ;)16:18
badbodhbgc, but if you create another user account, that account may not be able to access media/data16:18
badbodhin that case you need chmod commands, i don't completely understand them but there are guides in web16:19
bgcbadbodh,  ok im single user no need any other user thnx for everything :)16:20
badbodhnp16:20
ikoniamaziar: no - you're running on debian. not ubuntu, so you are not supported here, please don't ask again16:20
TJ-timbozeman: I'm going to hazard a guess here based on the EDID info. Either your TV is an incorrectly badged 720p model *or* the firmware in it is shared with the 720p model *and/or* the 1920p/i modes it offers are tuned for digital cinema device modes (blue-ray players) not PC modes. That would explain the overscan.16:20
timbozemanTJ-: internally right? not in like a way I could see through a menu option or something?16:21
TJ-timbozeman: If you're able to test it on Windows and it works with 1080p correctly, there's a Windows tool (I forget it's name - something like 'powerline') that can extract the modelines the Windows driver uses so you can manually add them to the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a "Monitor" section16:21
TJ-timbozeman: correct, internally, in the TVs firmware.16:22
bgcbadbodh, is there any program to create wifi ap,hotspot ?16:23
maziarikonia, is there any diffrent beetween debian and ubuntu ?16:23
ikoniayes16:23
badbodhbgc, in control panel>network>wifi>create a hotspot button16:24
MonkeyDustmaziar  if ubuntu were exactly the same as debian, it would be called debian16:24
maziarok professorz , no one of can help me ?16:25
TJ-timbozeman: Look at comment #39 of this forum post. It might help you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003099&page=416:25
bgcbadbodh, but my internet comes from wifi16:25
bennypr0faneHej, If I want to shh into a device over a usb network connection, how do I make sure it uses the usb network instead of the ethernet when I run the ssh command?16:25
timbozemanTJ-: thank you16:26
badbodhbgc, then you need to figure out the wifi router, it should have a booklet/manual or something ?16:26
TJ-timbozeman: It looks like you've some work ahead but that #39 description perfectly describes your issue so I'd rate the chances of a fix based on that at higher than 75%16:27
mik__!list16:28
ubottumik__: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:28
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TJ-timbozeman: in case it helps, I think this is the Windows tool: http://www.geocities.ws/podernixie/htpc/modeline-en.html16:30
bgcbadbodh, default hotspot just supported wired connections but it is not possible to have wired network do u know any other custom program to make hotspot from wifi16:30
timbozemanTJ-: I'll try that first! thank you!16:30
badbodhbgc, i don't understand the question. do you want your computer to create wi-fi hotspot, or the router to create it16:32
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bgcbadbodh, from computer16:35
badbodhbgc, you are using ubuntu unity ?16:36
TJ-timbozeman: Strangely, that model's User Guide specifications page 49 says, for the inputs, "HDMI: Video: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, PC timing " - note the PC timing! Maybe the TV menu *does* have an option to change the input type?16:36
lungaroI want a quick and fast way to graph network bandwidth. Is there some tool out there that does this for a desktop?16:36
lungaroall I know of is ganglia, cacti, etc that are annoying to setup. I was hoping for a "desktop" one that's easy to use16:36
TJ-lungaro: Etherape maybe?16:38
lungaroi'll check it out. Its just annoying that the graphing is seperate from the collection from the desktop perspective16:38
SchrodingersScat!info iftop | depending on what you mean by graph16:38
ubottudepending on what you mean by graph: iftop (source: iftop): displays bandwidth usage information on an network interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0~pre4-2 (vivid), package size 35 kB, installed size 113 kB16:38
lungaroI want a graph in a webpage, just like a simple mrtg16:39
timbozemanTJ-: it has an option to do wide, full, zoom. I think the full option is the 1 to 1 pixel thing? (no clue really)16:39
ioria!info BandwidthD16:39
ubottubandwidthd (source: bandwidthd): Tracks usage of TCP/IP and builds html files with graphs. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1+cvs20090917-7 (vivid), package size 72 kB, installed size 224 kB16:39
al2o3-cr!info slurm16:39
ubottuslurm (source: slurm): Realtime network interface monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1 (vivid), package size 17 kB, installed size 81 kB16:39
lungaroyou da man!16:40
al2o3-cr!info speedometer that nice :)16:40
ubottu'that' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed16:40
al2o3-cr!info speedometer16:40
ubottuspeedometer (source: speedometer): measure and display the rate of data across a network connection. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-1 (vivid), package size 15 kB, installed size 74 kB16:40
TJ-timbozeman: looks like you'll have to experiment16:40
* timbozeman puts on his lab coat16:41
SatanSlut666XXXDoes the truth hide in logs?16:42
* TJ- is off to test another bisected kernel16:42
tewardanyone have a guide to enforcing certain 'file create' settings for a folder, such that user:group is always defined for new files, rather than UserThatCreated:group ?16:42
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hydrianEllo all16:54
hydrianI've got an issue. I have an old printer who driver doesn't work with Ubuntu >= 12.0416:56
hydrianI need to install 10.04.16:56
hydrianWhen I go to install 10.04, I get an error that it can't download any current kernel. I'm guessing that the deb repository moved.16:57
MonkeyDusthydrian  yes, because 10.04 os eol, no lo longer available16:59
MonkeyDustis*16:59
darthanubis10.04 for printer support? That does not sound like a plan at all16:59
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hydrianI'm just setting it as VM. The driver is i386 only. So an RPi is out the question.17:00
hydrianI need a cups server so I can cloud print to it. To replace the printer it will cost me at least 300+17:00
darthanubiswhats the printer model?17:00
hydrianBrother HL-4040CN17:00
jParktonplug it into a toaster17:01
jParktonnot a cup17:01
jParkton:P17:01
kevin_Hello does anybody know how to work with GRUB?17:01
hydrianI have the lastest release of the driver. The driver prints but the color levels are all off. If I run the test pages or with a windows driver, they print fine.17:02
hydrianThe printer was EOLed in 2010.17:02
hydrianSetting up an old OS is free vs buy an new printer.17:03
darthanubis!ask | kevin_17:03
ubottukevin_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:03
darthanubis hydrian not very good support for that model in linux17:05
hydriandarthanubis: I know. But it was a great price at the time when I bought. It has been a good printer up until now.17:06
hydrian$200 USD for a color networked laser printer that supported linux was insanely good in 200917:07
hydrianEither way... Brother hasn't updated the driver.17:08
IoyrieBrother did not bother17:10
c_nickalthough windows questions but when running xcopy from batch job files are not getting copied http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715334/17:10
MonkeyDustc_nick  sure you're in the right channel?17:12
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hydrianIoyrie: I know. the HL-4050 used a standardized scripte (BrightScript). The 4040 was a one off and used some proprietary code.17:14
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leniHello, I'm experiencing an issue with internet on 15.04 as of yesterday (I think it's related to an update). My connection works on my other OS, I can ping my router, and I can ping Google's DNS server, but when I load a page from Firefox or Chrome it says it couldn't connect to the DNS servers. It appears others might be having this issue as well, I found this guy with the same problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/636340/15-04-updat17:16
IP92my tab completion suddenly stopped working for apt-get17:17
IP92in terminal17:17
TJ-leni: Is the PC using Wireless or Wired Ethernet?17:18
leniTJ-: Wired. Using DHCP; it has an IP address from my router and I can even ping 8.8.8.8, just no actual domain names.17:18
hydrianleni: DNS issue then17:19
TJ-leni: So, DNS. Is it using NetworkManager?17:19
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leniTJ-: I believe so, can't recall. I haven't swapped any packages out so whatever is default for 15.0417:20
TJ-leni: OK, tell us if the dnsmasq process is running using this: "ps -efly | grep dnsmasq.*NetworkManager'17:21
leniTJ-: alright. i'll have to reboot, give me a second17:21
TJ-leni: hold on!17:22
TJ-leni: If you're rebooting the PC to test we can give you a temporary workaround so you have DNS to make diagnosis easier17:23
leniTJ-: could you clarify the mismatching quotes? double quote at the beginning single quote at the end?17:23
leniTJ-: alright17:23
TJ-leni: Sorry! I enclose commands in double quotes ... but forgot to put the closing quote on that line!17:23
leniTJ-: No worries, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.17:23
TJ-leni: I'm going to give you a quick overview of how DNS resolution is supposed to work so you can tackle this intelligently17:24
leniTJ-: I have a vague understanding.. upset my uni didn't have a networking course available when I was there haha.17:24
TJ-leni: NetworkManager operates its own private instance of dnsmasq (a local caching DNS server). When NetworkManager manages a DHCP interface it uses "dhclient" to obtain the IP address, gateway, DNS servers, from the DHCP server. Then it should pass the DNS server IPs received to dnsmasq to use.17:25
TJ-leni: The system's "/etc/resolv.conf" (which says where to ask for DNS lookups) will point to that instance of dnsmasq which is usually "nameserver 127.0.1.1"17:26
TBotNikAll: Noticed a couple things that was wondering if anyone has solution resources on? 1.) Google's javascript, now using HTML5 memory cache no longer allows multi-user logins, 2.) Craiglist only allows 5 minutes of operation, then shuts you down for 15-30 min, before you can work again, 3.) Ubuntu/Kubuntu 14.04 is still unstable, cannot get any of my 8 machines to be/work the same!  All help appreciated17:27
TJ-leni: That file will be updated from time-to-time by NetworkManager *but* there is a time window whereby you can manually change that file and NetworkManager won't immediately update the file17:27
TJ-leni: So, you can (repeatedly) write to that file a valid DNS server (such as Google  DNS) whenever NetworkManager changes it. You'd use the command "echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf"17:28
TJ-leni: So, when you reboot to test if you have that command on-hand you can get DNS working from a terminal and use that command whenever you lose DNS resolution because NetworkManager has updated that file17:29
TJ-leni: In terms of diagnosis, the key thing is to provis us with a pastebin of the file "/var/log/syslog" where NetworkManager writes logs of everything it does17:29
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TJ-TBotNik: I've not seen any unstable behaviour in Kubuntu 14.04; what specifically have you experienced?17:31
leniAwesome. Thanks! I'll be back in a minute :)17:32
MonkeyDustTBotNik  scroll down, "how vagrant benefits you", is it useful http://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/why-vagrant/index.html17:32
callooohi  all17:32
dsfvhi, im on another distro i want to create bootable usb stick with 14.04 but it doesn't work with dd if=img of=/dev/sdb it produces corrupt stick, its bootable, but only to bootloader not kernel, it failes due corrupt kernal image17:37
TBotNikTJ-: Work machine, corrupted "System Monitor" when I migrated from 12.04 to 14.04 and have found no way to recover that.  Gives XML error.  It also will not load TeamViewer, but was having that problem under 12.04 before the upgrade!17:37
TBotNikTJ-: Laptop has Apache errors and will not load any site or file with "index.*".  It also will not sync at all on Dropbox!17:37
TBotNikTJ-: Desktop here and Laptop both have Network Manager problems17:38
leniTJ-: I'm back... it appears that yes, /usr/sbin/dnsmaq is running...17:39
TBotNikTJ-: None of the machines will sync MySQL17:39
TJ-leni: That's good news if its the private instance operated by NetworkManager :)17:39
TJ-TBotNik: let's stick in #kubuntu else it gets confusing17:40
leniTJ-: It says the process is owned by "nobody" it looks like, does NetworkManager have a user?17:40
leniTJ-: and as far as /var/log/syslog goes should I grep it for relevant stuff or just paste the whole file?17:41
TJ-leni: paste it please; it'll be far quicker :)17:41
TJ-leni: dnsmasq owner nobody is correct. The main way of identifying it is a private instance for NetworkManager is the command line has 'NetworkManager' in its options several times :)17:42
TJ-leni: E.g: pastebinit <(ps -efly | grep dnsmasq.*NetworkManager) gives me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715519/17:44
leniTJ-: Yes, it does. I can pastebin you the output of that ps command if you would like. Here's the paste of my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715513/17:44
TBotNikTJ-: I installed via online for the Work machine all others via Live DVD.  Also noticed the recover mode on boot from the LiveDVD, which was on all previous version is no longer an option, so you only 2 options, is format a new instance of OS or destroy all your data via full disk format!  Not acceptable at all!!!!!17:44
TBotNikTJ-: Cursor (Mouse) is now so totally crapped on this Desktop, that selection of any text is impossible!17:45
leniTJ-: It looks pretty similar, here's mine if you're curious http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715545/17:45
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TJ-leni: That looks fine... lets see what the syslog looks like17:47
leniTJ-: sounds good!17:48
compdocanyone else having problems with the mirrors running apt-get update or upgrade?17:50
SomeGuy77Hey, anyone know why ssh-rsa doesn't work on ubuntu 12 server? - ie given a ssh-rsa <somekey> <user@host> I get command not found, how to fix this, or a workaround? Thanks.17:51
Bashing-omcompdoc: ttp://ftp.utexas.edu trusty is good .17:52
compdocSome packages could not be authenticated17:52
win_heya guys17:56
win_i got a shiny new dell m3800 precision17:56
win_ubuntu 14.04.2 on it17:56
win_and it's a mess graphics wise17:56
compdocseems to be ok now17:56
win_running nvidia open source 352 atm, does anyone know what i can do?17:57
win_i hit black screen a lot after boot17:57
prodigelHey all. I'm having font issues in google-chrome all of a sudden. I've noticed them earlier in Kde, but awesomewm kept working well. Until today that is. Fonts look squarish, and small. Is this a common issue?17:58
win_if i prime-select intel which i am doing currently compiz freaks at me17:58
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TJ-leni: how are you doing with getting that syslog pastebinned?18:02
BeerLoverCan anyone help me with the no sound issue?18:03
leniTJ-: oh, sorry, haha the link is up there a ways lemme find it18:03
Bashing-omwin_: 14.04 does not have support for latestest hardware, what is the graphics card(s) ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' ? Maybe a proprietary driver will serve better ?18:03
leniTJ-: should be this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715513/18:03
BeerLoverI connected my ASUS laptop to my TV via HDMI. I shut down my laptop afterwards and now sound is not working.18:03
BeerLoverIt was working via audio jack for some time, but then it also stopped working.18:04
BeerLoverThe output devices in audio settings is empty18:04
kaseoga_im trying to create a pendrive with windows 7 bootable with ubuntu but it-s imposible18:05
kaseoga_im using gparted to format to fat32 and then unetbootin to load iso to pen18:05
kaseoga_and nothing, when i restart, grub always18:05
TJ-leni: mmmm ... reading18:06
TJ-leni: look to line 9228 onwards... that's the latest DHCP entries. Looks to me like ou might have an issue with IPv6 taking preference. Is your network operating dual-stack  (IPv4 and IPv6) ?18:07
leniTJ-: no, most of my network hardware is so old it doesn't support IPv6, is there some way I can just disable it?18:08
TJ-leni: That looks to be the issue... you see that line "whoopsie[724]: [11:35:59] Cannot reach: https://daisy.ubuntu.com"18:08
TeraJLhi there guys, is the 3 years old bug that is making me not being able to use unity fixed? I have problems with my right arm, so it's hard for me to reach the arrows so I can switch desktops.... I usually set alt+1...4(to switch to desktop #), and alt+shift+1...4(to send window to desktop #), but if you go to shortcuts and change the "send window to desktop #" shortcut it simply does not work18:08
TJ-leni: If I do "dig -t A daisy.ubuntu.com" I get back  correct IPv4 record. However, if I do "dig -t AAAA daisy.ubuntu.com" I get back an empty record18:09
TJ-leni: DNS record type AAAA is an IPv6 host IP ... which isn't being returned. So, my suggestion would be to focus on disabling IPv6... first step would be in the NetworkManager Connection editor for the connection, on the IPv6 tab, setting it to disabled/ignored or link-local18:11
leniTJ-: I set is to ignored. Now, when I cat /etc/resolv.conf, it still says nameserver 8.8.8.8, so can I force NetworkManager to rewrite that file somehow to see if it worked?18:12
BeerLoverCan anyone help me with the no sound issue?18:12
BeerLoverThe output devices in audio settings is empty18:12
BeerLoverIt was working via audio jack for some time, but then it also stopped working.18:12
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TJ-leni: disable and reenable the connection should do it18:13
win_thanks Bashing-om trying the 331 propritry drivers now18:13
jacob_do u guys  like limms18:13
jacob_mpk akai18:14
leniTJ-: Still says nameserver 8.8.8.8. The network configuration dialog says that the automatically configured one is 75.75.75.7518:16
TJ-leni: OK... you may have found us a clue as to what is going on. Let's look in detail at the connection config itself.18:17
callooohello18:17
TJ-leni: First, is the connection shared by all users according to the check-box in the General tab of the connection editor?18:17
leniyes18:18
leniTJ-: ipv4 is set to automatic, and this is what the information dialogue looks like: http://i.imgur.com/3MyPfFe.png18:19
TJ-leni: OK... lets interrupt that line of thought I have something interesting. Look at line  9177 of the syslog pastebin. That tells me the /etc/resolv.conf entry somehow got hard-coded. Lets fix that.18:19
compdocleni, your network isnt gigabit?18:20
TJ-leni: "sudo ln -sf /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf"18:20
lenicompdoc: no, old hardware :) mobo is, but everything else is 100mb18:20
leniTJ-: alright, done18:21
TJ-leni: and working backwards see line 915718:21
TJ-leni:  that and the following lines tell us the original cause. NM can't 'talk' to its private dnsmasq instance for some reason18:21
leniTJ-: this guy here? "<warn> dnsmasq not available on the bus, can't update servers."18:21
TJ-leni: Yes, and  about 5 lines later "...failed"18:22
BeerLoverMy sound only works on login screen18:22
BeerLovernowhere else18:22
BeerLoverAny idea how to fix that?18:22
leniTJ-: interesting. I'm blaming ubuntu updates :P worked Friday no problem! :)18:22
TJ-leni: me too... lets see if we can figure out why... show me "pastebinit <(cat '/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired connection 1')"18:24
TeraJLif someone with the latest version and fully updated could test if the shortcut for sending window to workspace 2 it's working would help me allot18:26
ioriaTeraJL, yep18:28
N3sh108hello!18:28
N3sh108I have a question concerning my ubuntu 14.0418:28
Bashing-om!ask | N3sh10818:28
ubottuN3sh108: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:28
TeraJLioria: you can set for example alt+shift+1 for workspace 1 and 2 for 2,and it sends the window around?18:29
N3sh108Bashing-om: I know, I thought I could phrase is quickly but it's taking longer than planned :P18:29
BeerLover!patience18:29
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:29
TJ-leni: That command I gave you - you'll probably need to prefix sudo to cat: " ... <(sudo cat /etc/..."18:29
N3sh108for some reason, I am getting 'Connection activation failed - (32) Not authorized to control networking'. Even when inserting a USB stick, it doesn't allow me to do it from the GUI because I am not root.18:30
ioriaTeraJL, i can send terminal window to workspace 2 with the shortcut, no problem18:30
BeerLoverMy sound only works on login screen18:30
N3sh108How do i tell Ubuntu that my user can do that stuff (only user apart from Guest)18:30
BeerLoverAny idea how to fix that?18:30
BeerLoverThe output devices in audio settings is empty18:30
leniTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715757/18:31
TJ-leni: Good. nothing to surprise us there18:32
TJ-leni: show us "/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf" please18:32
codepython777I'm looking for a nice ui (web based) to manage 10s of ubuntu boxes deployed on hardware/vms. Any suggestions? (Mostly need configuration management + status)18:32
leniTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715773/18:33
TJ-leni: Again, good.18:36
ioriaif i Ignore/Disable IPV6 the  Default Route in Connection Information should be empty, right ?18:37
Bashing-omTJ-: leni Excuse if I am barking up the wrong tree, but " managed=false "; does this not mean that networking is controlled from " /etc/network/interfaces " rather than Network-manager ??18:38
TJ-leni: I have to go to dinner now. My suggestion is to reboot the PC and test again., we may be diagnosing a fixed issue. If not, look at the resulting syslog again starting at the end of the file and working backwards until you find NetworkManager entries from where it started to bring up the connection, as per the exampels I've already pointed you to.18:39
TJ-Bashing-om: No, the opposite. See "man NetworkManager.conf":  "... If  set  to  true,  then  interfaces listed  in  /etc/network/interfaces  are  managed  by  NetworkManager ..."18:40
Bashing-omTJ-: :) thanks for that !18:40
BeerLoverThe output devices in audio settings is empty18:41
BeerLoverPlease help!18:41
doraMorning.18:41
doraI have an external USB drive Clonezilla can see to give me the device name and mount but not to choose to back up on. Reason could possibly be drive name is "Seagate Expansion+", not a legal linux name.  How do I change the nameof the drive?18:43
leniTJ-: Thanks for all your help!18:43
doraNone of my efforts to do that have taken.18:43
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Decoy_PlatypusDoes the normal Ubuntu Install Live CD start an ssh server?18:45
tewardDecoy_Platypus: no, it shouldn't.18:46
tewardDecoy_Platypus: why?18:46
MonkeyDustDecoy_Platypus  you have to install it18:46
N3sh108any idea about my problem? ;(18:46
teward^18:46
tewardDecoy_Platypus: what MonkeyDust said, you have to install it18:46
Decoy_Platypusteward: ok, thanks18:46
doraN3sh108, I did just enter, but I can't find your problem.18:48
N3sh108for some reason, I am getting 'Connection activation failed - (32) Not authorized to control networking'. Even when inserting a USB stick, it doesn't allow me to do it from the GUI because I am not root.18:49
N3sh108How do i tell Ubuntu that my user can do that stuff (only user apart from Guest)18:49
N3sh108for instance, at times I can't seem to be able to tell the computer to shut down18:49
x4Dx5AN3sh108: does sudo work?18:49
N3sh108from terminal everything works x4Dx5A18:50
N3sh108I'm using gnome18:50
N3sh108if it's useful18:50
HoloIRCUserHas anyone used planet w/ Linux to tether? I'm not finding good information on it and planet fails for creating hotspot and for Bluetooth.18:50
doraN3sh108 that sounds like a user properties issue. I'm in middle of workingin gparted so can't explore that with you, but basically you need to edit your user's privileges and group membershihps (which help control his privileges)18:51
N3sh108mmm ok dora18:52
x4Dx5AN3sh108: i agree with dora. if sudo works (or with gnome gksudo) with your account but normal gui tasks fail on permissions then you should check your user group memberships.18:52
bob_t18:54
callooohello18:54
N3sh108thanks, checking now x4Dx5a - dora18:55
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N3sh108my user is part of the following groups:18:57
N3sh108nesh adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev netdev lpadmin sambashare wireshark - dora, x4Dx5a18:57
bob_hi! i try to install a plug-in Bimp in Gimp. I download the files, extracted. but im not sure for "make && make install" can someone help ty!19:04
lisbethIs it safe to allow a non-rooted account on a server to have a public password over ssh?19:04
lisbethI mean nonsudoer19:04
lisbethWow, it's sort of quiet. Does anybody know any good channels for system administrators?19:07
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compdoclooking to hire some?19:08
lisbethNo I just have newb questions19:08
j1n3l0hello all. i am having issues installing ubuntu 15.04 from dvd on my laptop. tried several times today. it is hanging at this step "creating ext4 file system for / partition #2 of scsi1 (0,0,0) (sda) ...". when i look at the output i see errors like "acpi error: method parse/execution failed ...". any help would be greatly appreciated.19:09
tomreynj1n3l0: install the latest available stable bios update for your mainboard, then retry. if this issue persists try installing ubuntu 14.04 instead. you can always upgrade later.19:17
N3sh108I tried to search stuff but I couldn't find what to do to check the permissions for my user19:19
N3sh108showing which groups I am in didn't really help19:19
bekksN3sh108: Whats the exact issue you are trying to solve?19:19
j1n3l0tomreyn: i don't know how to that i'm afraid.. is there a way to find out what my mainboard is?19:19
tomreynlisbeth: how safe it is depends on the quality of the password, of course. generally accounts which allow for ssh password authentication are to be considered to provide a larger attack surface than accountsonly allowing for ssh key authentication.19:20
lisbethtomreyn, the password is very safe, but it it would be public19:20
tomreynj1n3l0: you could open your computer and look for it. but that's usually easier said than done. do you have any working operating system there?19:21
lisbetheveryone knows it19:21
N3sh108bekks: gnome feels weird - I seem to not have enough priviledges for wireless (I got Not authorized to control networking) and to mount USB sticks19:21
N3sh108I can do all that from terminal though19:21
N3sh108so I feel it's a problem related to gnome and my user19:21
j1n3l0tomreyn: not anymore19:21
tomreynlisbeth: huh, what's the puepose of using a password if you'll publish it?19:21
bekksN3sh108: Which Ubuntu are you using?19:21
ioriaj1n3l0, what you had before on that laptop ?19:21
N3sh108bekks: at times, I also seem unable to reboot/shut down the computer19:21
N3sh10814.04 (Trusty)19:22
tomreynj1n3l0: and that worked fine?19:22
j1n3l0tomreyn: originally a windows laptop, i installed ubuntu 32 bit 11.04 (i think), upgraded each year to 14.10, then today tried to install 15.04 64 bit. so last working version was ubuntu 14.10 32 bit.19:23
tomreynj1n3l0: do you know the model of that laptop? i didn't realize you said it was a laptop until now. you can ignore what i said about th emainboard19:23
PCatineanHelp i'm going crazy19:23
N3sh108any idea bekks?19:23
PCatineanafter X time, I cannot click on anything on my browser19:23
PCatineaneverything is working great but the browser window is just untouchable19:24
j1n3l0tomreyn, lenovo ideapad z57019:24
bekksN3sh108: Which groups is your user in?19:24
N3sh108nesh adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev netdev lpadmin sambashare wireshark - bekks19:24
ioriaj1n3l0, did you select automatic partition ?19:25
j1n3l0ioria, yes i did19:26
ioriaj1n3l0, erase disk and install ?19:26
j1n3l0ioria, yeah. several times. it keeps getting stuck19:27
* ObrienDave suggests trying it manually using the "something else" option19:28
tomreynj1n3l0: BIOS Version 45CN38WW (2011-11-01) is the latest: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/ideapad-z-series-laptops/ideapad-z57019:28
tomreynj1n3l0: which one you have now should show on the pre-boot screen19:28
lisbethtomreyn, just adds a slight layer of security. I am actually trying to figure out how to sandbox this guest and I think the best way is to edit it's path19:28
tomreynthat's unless you have some "full screen logo" / graphical boot enabled19:28
j1n3l0tomreyn, so u suggest i try installing that and then install ubuntu again?19:29
tomreynj1n3l0: it's worth a try. but maybe there's something easier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions19:30
tomreyntry to hit F6 on the ubuntu boot screen , then select acpi=no19:30
tomreyni mean acpi=off sorry19:30
Kalizhow can I share my mobile broadband connection with other computers and phone devices?19:31
ioriaj1n3l0, i don't want to be catastrophic , but if it fails creating the filesystem could be the hd19:31
Johnny_Linuxor a bad burn19:31
ioriayep19:32
tomreynlisbeth: it's really not easy to sandbox users who have shell access. there are so many ways to elevate access. you'd better consider using something like containers.19:32
Johnny_Linuxi dont think its the bios19:32
j1n3l0tomreyn, ioria: thanks, i will try ur suggestions and come back if unsuccesful19:32
ObrienDavej1n3l0, have you checked md5 of the iso before burning?19:32
tomreynlisbeth: or even para virtualization.19:33
Johnny_Linuxburn another copy @ 10-15 speed19:33
ObrienDavetry 4x max19:33
tomreynj1n3l0: there's a "check disc for defects" option to rule this issue out19:33
tomreynalso on the boot menu19:33
tomreynhttp://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1354180067.png19:34
ioriaj1n3l0, download a Lubuntu iso (very small),  go to UUI(linuxpendrive) and try it19:34
conorMcGregor9how can i get a taskbar at the bottom with the opened windows?19:34
Johnny_Linuxactually, a usb stick would be better19:34
MonkeyDustconorMcGregor9 in Unity you can't, try lxde or xfce, or install cairo-dock19:35
j1n3l0tomreyn, trouble started because i did not have a gui on boot. had just a black screen. i knew the "try" option was first so i just hit "enter"19:35
j1n3l0tomreyn, hopefully it appears this time19:35
j1n3l0ioria, will try that next19:36
conorMcGregor9MonkeyDust, then ill lose the side panel right?19:36
ioriaj1n3l0, if it's the hd, remember that you can always use an external  usb hd19:37
tomreynj1n3l0: take note of the first sentence of the wiki page i pointed you to: As the CD boots, the user can gain access to the advanced page and its options by pressing any key when the small logo appears at the bottom of your screen:19:37
tomreynso press a key when ubuntu boots, that's before it enters the graphical mode.19:38
j1n3l0tomreyn, thanks19:38
tomreynwelcome, good luck :)19:39
MonkeyDustconorMcGregor9  ah, you want both... then try cairo or another dock... 14.04 has 'plank'19:40
ex0rHello, could somebody here please help me fix a ubuntu problem? I have ubuntu15 installed, and to enable rdp I installed MATE, and now when I try logging in at startup, using the ubuntu default login type, it kicks me back out to the login prompt. All I can do is select the mate login.19:40
MonkeyDustconorMcGregor9  15.04 has 'plank' (typo)19:40
conorMcGregor9am on 14.04 :/19:41
conorMcGregor9where can i view all the plugins?19:41
conorMcGregor9on debian i could use extensions.gnome.org19:42
conorMcGregor9doesnt seem to work on ubuntu19:42
tomreynex0r: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unity19:42
ex0rtomreyn, - does mate uninstall unity?19:43
smallmousehoping someone can assist i have a file I have on my machine I need to install.  When I unzip I get two folders and on .sh file .  How can I install this ?  cnijfilter-mp250series-3.40-1-deb.tar.gz is the name of the original zip file.  Software manager is not recognising this.19:43
ex0rit says unity is already installed19:43
tomreynex0r: that's my guess. i dont think mate is supported by default, or is it?19:43
ex0rI don't know, I had to install it so I could RDP into my desktop machine19:43
ex0rat least that's what the guide I followed said19:44
tomreynthat's not actually related19:44
johnsmithis there an IRC for people using Elementary OS19:44
johnsmith???19:44
ex0rInstalling MATE is what messed up the login screen19:44
ex0rand im just trying to restore it19:44
conorMcGregor9smallmouse, is the .sh file for the install?19:45
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: yes it appears so19:45
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: but how do i execute this ? thanks19:45
ObrienDaveright click the .sh and execute19:45
tomreynex0r: hmm apparently mate is a supported package in 15.04, i wasn't aware. so it *should* be compatible to unity. unless the how.to you used instructed you to break stuff.19:45
conorMcGregor9or type './file.sh' in the terminal19:46
tomreynex0r: what's the how-to you used?19:46
smallmouseObrienDave: run in terminal, display or run.  I have tried all of them but not sure if anything happened.19:46
conorMcGregor9open a terminal instead smallmouse19:46
ObrienDave^^^19:46
ex0rtomreyn, - I would have to find it again, it's been a few weeks since I used it. I've been out of town and just got back to diagnose the problem, but everything was done through apt-get19:46
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: ok opened19:46
conorMcGregor9cd to the directory and use './file.sh'19:47
ex0ris there a way I can diagnose what's causing the issue? If I click the circle next to my name, it brings up a bunch of options, one is 'Ubuntu Default', but when I select it, and log in, it makes the login noise and takes me back to the login screen19:47
conorMcGregor9it should give some feedback19:47
x4Dx5Aex0r: check to make sure the /tmp directory is writeable19:47
ex0rx4Dx5A, Why would it be for one desktop environment and not another?19:48
tomreynex0r: you can check the log files in /var/log, specifically the Xorg ones19:48
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: ok in directory19:48
smallmouseconorMcGregor9:  the file is called install.sh19:48
conorMcGregor9so type ' ./install.sh '19:48
conorMcGregor9without quotes19:48
tomreynex0r: the logs should tell you how things failed when you tried to login to the default session19:49
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: An error occurred. The package management system cannot be identified.19:49
tomreynconorMcGregor9: you are currently instructing someone to potentially hose their system19:49
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: deb is for ubuntu ? or is it rpm ?19:49
tomreynit'd be good to add a word of warning to that19:49
x4Dx5Aex0r: i just remember seeing that before.19:49
ex0rI can see the log file, but no idea how to read it19:49
conorMcGregor9.deb can be used with ubuntu19:49
x4Dx5Aex0r: take a look at this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop19:49
conorMcGregor9but theres not usually a install.sh19:49
ex0rhmm I did find this error:19:50
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: there are 2 folders there packages and resource and then an install script19:50
conorMcGregor9tomaw, i can only asume they know what their downloading19:50
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100236101.html19:51
tomreynex0r: please use a pastebin if you're going to paste more than 2 lines19:51
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conorMcGregor9smallmouse, is there a .deb file in there somehwere?19:52
ioriasmallmouse, rpm, i think19:52
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: yes 4 other .deb in the packages19:52
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: done i can open them in the software centre i think i am ok, thanks for the help19:53
ex0rhttp://pastebin.com/4vnuzV1f19:53
ex0rnot sure if thats related or not19:53
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: ah no they are not opening properly in software centre19:54
ReVoLt112Does anyone have a Lenovo Flex 2 Pro? My Ubuntu 15 does not play sound via HDMI port19:54
ex0rx4Dx5A, I looked through that page before, wasn't able to find a solution19:54
conorMcGregor9yeah with your last message sounds like u have a problem with your packet manager19:54
smallmouseconorMcGregor9: any ideas on fixing this ?19:55
conorMcGregor9u will have to trace what the problem is more19:56
x4Dx5Aex0r: just to check (sorry if you already said this) did you uninstall MATE or are you keeping MATE?19:57
Bashing-omex0r: A thought; do "you" own /home ' ls -al / ' and in /home do "you" own .ICEauthority and .Xauthority ' ls -al /hone ' ( at login ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console) ?19:57
ex0rx4Dx5A, I would like to uninstall it, but want to make sure my normal login works first as i can only log in via MATE19:57
Bashing-omex0r: typo ls -al /home .19:58
ex0rBashing-om, . and .. are owned by root, my directory is owned by me19:59
ex0rand same with .Xauthority and .ICEauthority19:59
x4Dx5Aex0r: have you looked at this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/515697/get-back-the-original-ubuntu-desktop-after-removing-mate19:59
x4Dx5Aex0r: you can also try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/146137/login-screen-loops-unless-you-login-as-guest20:00
Bashing-omex0r: Good, and .Xauthority and .ICEauthority in your /home directory are also owned by "you" ?20:02
ex0ryes20:02
ex0rI just removed MATE using sudo apt-get remove mate-desktop-environment, and than used sudo apt-get autoremove to remove the left over stuff20:03
Bashing-omNext thought, is ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ' See if you can reset to default .20:04
michael__hi20:04
ex0rusing that command does nothing20:04
ex0rjust takes me back to the terminal20:04
michael__pie20:04
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lotuspsychjemichael__: can we help you?20:04
Guest12265no20:04
x4Dx5Aex0r: sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop20:04
Guest12265what happened to my name20:04
x4Dx5Aex0r: sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm20:04
ex0rx4Dx5A, neither of those packages are installed20:04
jParktonautoremove only cleans up packages you no longer need20:05
ex0rReword that, none of those 3 packages are installed.20:05
x4Dx5Aex0r: so then MATE is already unistalled?20:05
jParktonif it returns and doesnt remove anything then there are no dependencies20:05
ex0rsudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm20:05
ex0rI am talking about that command20:05
Bashing-omex0r: Shotgun approach ? sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ??20:05
ex0rsure, let's try it20:06
ex0rits done already20:06
ex0rit said20:06
regedithello20:06
lotuspsychjeregedit: welcome, what can we do for you?20:06
regediti am consistently failing to setup a dual boot Windows + Ubuntu20:06
TJ-Bashing-om: There's another .Xauthority that I found once needed removing to fix looping greeter issues. Check in "/var/run/ligthdm/root/"20:06
lotuspsychje!dualboot | regedit20:07
ubotturegedit: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot20:07
regeditlotuspsychje: why that is so kind of you good sir :)20:07
TJ-Bashing-om: correcting for my typos of course!20:07
ex0rTJ-, - I can't get into root20:07
ex0rthat folder, rather20:07
lotuspsychjeregedit: is your machine an uefi system?20:07
TJ-ex0r: No, I mistyped it :)20:08
regedithere is my most latest boot-repair output: paste.ubuntu.com/1171623120:08
regeditlotuspsychje: aha, bulls-eye question20:08
regeditlotuspsychje: well20:08
TJ-ex0r:  in "sudo ls -la /var/run/lightdm/root/"20:08
regeditlotuspsychje: my BIOS is set to UEFI enabled20:08
regeditand Windows installs fine20:08
ex0rTJ-, - shows . .. and :020:08
regedithowever during ubuntu installation i get a strange error20:08
ex0rbut says there are 4 tfiles in there20:08
ex0rlet me see if I can log in now, hold on20:09
ahmedhi20:09
regeditsomething to the effect of "...it looks like the other OS on this machine was installed with legacy BIOS and not UEFI..." wtf?20:09
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regeditlotuspsychje: ^20:09
lotuspsychje!uefi | regedit20:09
ubotturegedit: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI20:09
ex0rNope still cant log in20:10
ex0rand MATE is still showing up on the login screen20:10
ex0rgrr this is annoying20:11
tomreynex0r: to list remaining packages which may be related to mate: dpkg -l \*mate\* | grep ^i20:11
ex0rlet me try a restart20:11
ex0rwow theres a lot20:11
ex0rcan I just do a sudo apt-get remove mate*20:12
Bashing-omTJ-: UHHH .. nice to know about "/var/run/lightdm/root/" . I sure was not aware !20:12
regeditlotuspsychje: if I installed windows from a USB drive, does that not prove that I have UEFI working?20:12
lotuspsychjeregedit: make your life easy and single install ubuntu :p20:12
regeditlotuspsychje: if only Unity engine editor worked on Linux......20:13
tomreynex0r: that'd be 'mate.*'. but whether tis a good idea to do so depends on which packages would be matching. just mate packages, or others, too?20:13
regeditwhy does the ubuntu installation think I installed Windows without UEFI?20:14
Bashing-omex0r: How about we backup and regroup, Boot to TTY1 and try and start the desktop, see what errors the system reports ?20:14
ex0rBashing-om, No idea how to do that20:14
TJ-ex0r: My first step would be to analyse the log files in "/var/log/lightdm" to determine why the login is failing. I assume lightdm displays its Greeter with the password entry field, you type your password, and it ehaves as if it is logging in and starting your user session, but then drops back to the Greeter?20:14
ex0rTJ-, - yes20:14
ex0ronly if ubuntu default is selected20:14
tomreynex0r: if you'd like a better idea of why unity is failing, post /var/log/Xorg*.log and ~/.xsession-errors to a pastebin and provide the links here.20:15
TJ-ex0r: Bashing-om long shot but could this be because the session manager it is trying to start was removed by the installation of Mate? In which case that idea to "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" might solve it20:15
ex0rTJ- I already did that20:15
TJ-ex0r: You're ahead of me :)20:16
tomreynex0r: the log excerpt you posted before may already hnit at the cause of the problems you're running into. your graphics hardware acceleration is not working properly.20:16
ex0rtomreyn, - Correct, but why would installing MATE cause that20:16
ex0rthis desktop ran default ubuntu install since 15.04 was out in beta without any issues, as soon as mate was installed I can no longer use the desktop20:17
ObrienDavemost likely a dependency conflict20:17
TJ-ex0r: tomreyn That might make sense if the system can't fallback to a non-accelerated mode... but that would cause X to start in safe mode which is very obvious.20:17
regeditlotuspsychje: how about this: during ubuntu installation, when i configure Ubuntu to install on the 2nd partition (at the bottom of that screen) and it asks me where to install the boot loader or something, what am i actually supposed to choose?20:17
tomreynex0r: why mate would cause this is a miracle tome, too.20:17
TJ-ex0r: I think removing Mate might help - my guess is that Mate has added entries under /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ and maybe other X config locations20:18
lotuspsychjeregedit: read the uefi link mate20:18
regeditalright alright i'll actually read something for once...20:18
regedit:P20:18
ex0rTJ-, I used sudo apt-get remove mate-desktop-environment to uninstall it, although it still appears in the login screen. It could be because I didnt do a full restart though and only logged out20:19
TJ-ex0r: That package is just one that depends on others to bring them in when it itself is installed. Removing it won't remove all its dependencies. I think your idea of removing all the mate* packages might help20:19
* TJ- is rebooting for another kernel bisect test20:20
Bashing-omex0r: Mind you I do not "know" -yet ; but apt-get remove, will not delete files in the /home directory. maybe this has a bearing, Might be good to take TJ-'s advise and read the logs. Then maybe see what the errors are when attempting a manual startup of the desktop from terminal .20:22
ex0rokay, I have no idea20:22
ex0rapt-get says there are no matching packages installed20:23
ex0rit could be my 3d graphics acceleration, the windows are lagging quite a bit when I drag them across the screen20:24
ex0rbut i have no idea why mate installation would have broken them20:24
kuba7447whats the best GBA emulator for linux, VBA dosent work.20:25
ex0rchanging the drivers back to the open-source and tested ones to see if that helps20:25
ZdZARDOZhola buenas noches20:26
Bashing-omex0r: Well, we can look at the logs ' pastebinit /var/log/lightdm ' and ' pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors ' . A place to start .20:26
ex0rBashing-om, lightdm/* ?20:27
ex0rhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11716386/ xsession errors20:27
ex0rhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11716377/20:29
ex0rthats lightdm.log20:29
Bashing-omex0r: look'n at em // Be back soonest .20:30
ex0rthere is also one for x-0.log and x-0-greeter.log20:30
marcaddeoame20:32
tomreynex0r: you could try "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"20:36
tomreynthis would install the 'recommended' drivers for your hardware20:36
tomreynobviously you don't have 3d acceleration at this time, but that's mandatory for unity to work20:37
tomreynwhich can be why it fails to start20:37
ex0rI dont even know if mate uses 3d acceleration so that may be why I dont have it.20:37
ex0rI just know that when moving the windows, they are very laggy and new text coming on the screen is too20:37
tomreyni don't think mate requires 3d acceleration to work, no20:37
ex0rIts upsetting me the darn thing isn't working and all i did was install mate.20:38
tomreyni concur that's disappointing, this shouldn't happen.20:39
tomreyngetting desktop environments to play nice next to one another isn't a trivial task, though20:39
tomreynmy take on ubuntu is: if you want things to work, use an LTS release.20:40
tomreyn(of course this can mean you'll not have some features available at all)20:40
ex0rhmm I dont even /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf20:41
tomreynyou're missing a verb there20:41
ex0reven have*20:42
conorMcGregor9lol20:42
tomreynmaybe you have gdm installed then20:42
ex0rI used apt to check for it and it couldn't find it20:42
ex0rand in the log files, its using lightdm20:42
Bashing-omex0r: tomreyn .. Hummm .. We have "  CRITICAL: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion 'session != NULL' failed ' and mate is the issue " +24.96s] DEBUG: Session pid=1955: Greeter requests session mate and "[+25.23s] DEBUG: Session pid=1999: Running command /usr/sbin/lightdm-session mate-session" // Maybe we are at the point to look at lightdm's config files ?20:42
robholtomreyn: could've been something like "what is this I don't even" :P20:43
rOm3Oi am having this error at the start ACPCI probe failed20:43
rOm3Ohow may i fix it?20:43
rOm3Oi googled it20:43
rOm3Ofind that there is some nividia driver20:43
tomreynex0r: i think the way forward is still what has been suggested a while ago - removing remaining mate packages20:44
rOm3Omy graphic card is Intel 82865G Grapnics controller20:44
tomreynex0r: ...then making sure you have working 2d/3d acceleration via fglrx20:44
x4Dx5Atomreyn: it certainly doesn't look like mate was fully unistalled...20:44
ex0rtomreyn, I am trying to do so, I know for a fact, I installed it with dpkg or aptitude, and although dpkg shows that there are remaining packages, aptitude doesnt20:44
ex0rso now I have no idea how to remove the remaining packages20:45
tomreynwhoops, ctrl-q is not ctrl-f20:46
Bashing-omrOm3O: Most likely not an issue; see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2275310 .20:46
ex0rtomreyn, I am trying to do so, I know for a fact, I installed it with dpkg or aptitude, and although dpkg shows that there are remaining packages, aptitude doesnt. So now I have no idea how to remove the remaining packages.20:46
ex0rhmm dpkg now says no packages found as well20:46
ex0rex0r@justin-computer:~$ dpkg -l \*mate*\ | grep i20:47
ex0rdpkg-query: no packages found matching *mate*20:47
tomreynex0r: please show the output of: dpkg -l '*mate*'20:47
ex0rlet me pastebin it20:48
ex0rhttp://pastebin.com/mqHkb2Jm20:48
tomreynex0r: so you still have plenty of mate related packages installed20:49
ex0rcan I run a dpkg command to remove them all? apt-get says none can be found20:49
conorMcGregor9theres a shortcut to show desktop?20:50
tomreynex0r: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get purge --remove '^mate.*' '^libmate.*'20:51
conorMcGregor9tomaw, whats the ^ do there?20:51
MonkeyDustconorMcGregor9  I was away... in 14.04, you can install cairo-dock20:52
conorMcGregor9tomreyn*20:52
tomreynmatches beginning of package name20:52
conorMcGregor9yeah thanks MonkeyDust20:52
ex0rusing that command brings me to another prompt, like its awaiting more params20:52
tomreynex0r: can we see that?20:53
ex0rex0r@justin-computer:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get purge --remove '^mate.*' '^libmate.*20:53
ex0r>20:53
tomreynyou missed the trailing '20:53
ex0rjust forgot to copy it20:53
ex0rits there20:53
ex0rhmm it went that time20:54
ex0rlooks like its removing them now finally20:54
conorMcGregor9how can i make a desktop shortcut to an executable in a folder?20:54
ex0rim logged into mate though, not sure how thats gonna work20:54
conorMcGregor9the executable requires other files in that folder to run20:54
Bashing-omTJ-: update: ex0r :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716377/ ; mate is not un-installed. He is working on it .20:55
tomreynex0r: your dektop will likely fail shortly20:55
ex0rha20:55
ex0rwhich means I will no longer be able to IRC20:55
ex0rhmm nope it went20:55
tomreynex0r: well not that soon, but soon20:55
ex0rlol20:56
ex0rmate is uninstalled now20:56
tomreynex0r: i wasn't aware you're currently using irc on this computer20:56
ex0rill jump on my laptop, give me 2 secs20:56
tomreyngood plan there20:56
conorMcGregor9theres a way to ungroup the windows when alt + tabbing?20:57
ex0rOkay, whats the next step?20:57
tomreynex0r: restart lightdm20:57
ex0rusing sudo service lightdm restart I am now sitting at a black screen20:58
tomreynex0r: sudo service lightdm restart20:58
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tomreynwhoops, well let's try installing unity again20:59
ex0rokay20:59
tomreynex0r: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity ubuntu-desktop21:00
ex0rhow do I get off this black screen?21:00
tomreynex0r: ctrl-alt-f121:00
ex0rhmm nope21:00
ex0rill restart and hit escape at grub21:00
bekksTry booting using nomodeset21:00
bekks!nomodeset | ex0r21:01
ubottuex0r: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:01
tomreynbekks: it used to work, but i guess it might still help21:01
ex0rim booting into recoveryt21:01
ex0rsays both are at the newest version21:02
TJ-ex0r: Bashing-om So ... "CRITICAL: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion 'session != NULL' failed"21:02
tomreynex0r: you ran it with --reinstall ?21:03
ex0ryes21:03
ex0rwait no, sorry21:03
ex0rjust did21:03
ex0rokay its donew21:03
ex0rdone*21:03
tomreynex0r: too fast. can i see input and output pleasE?21:04
ex0rits an 8 core processor with 32 gigs of ram... it doesnt take long to install anything21:04
ex0ri dont have a way to show the output21:05
ex0rinput was sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity ubuntu-desktop21:05
TJ-ex0r: Please try "sudo rm /var/cache/lightdm/dmrc/ex0r.dmrc"21:05
ex0rTJ-: no such file21:06
Bashing-omTJ-: Yeah, caught that too . OP advised. awaiting results after mate purge, and attempt to re-install the ubuntu desktop . In progress at this time .21:06
TJ-ex0r: Bashing-om OK, that's one less then. That file usually contains the Session to use and might be set to a non-existent session21:07
ex0rrestarting after reinstalling desktop and unity, let me see if its fixed21:08
tomreynex0r: there was less than a minute between "just did" and "okay its done". it should have reinstalled about 190 packages on your hard disk. even with these PC specs i dont think it would be that fast.21:08
ex0rtomreyn: it installed four packages total21:09
tomreynbut restarting wont make things worse.21:09
ex0rtwo, sorry21:09
ex0rit downloaded a bunch, but only installed two21:10
tomreynhmm, maybe it's actually my fault there21:10
tomreynlet's purge those packages and lightdm before you re-run that command21:10
ex0rok21:11
TJ-tomreyn: "ubuntu-desktop" is only a placeholder it doesn't contain much itself. --reinstall won't force that package's dependencies to be installed too21:11
TJ-ex0r: The next change to try is to move aside the user-specific config values that are stored in the user directory. Login at a VT then do "mv $HOME/.cache $HOME/.cache.backup;    mv $HOME/.config $HOME/.cofig.backup" then try to login from the Greeter. If that works we can look at the entries in the user config to identify the cause.21:11
TJ-ex0r: correct my spelling mistake of "cofig.backup" if you do that :)21:12
tomreynTJ-: right, that's my mistake there, i wasn't sure about the dependencies21:12
tomreynex0r: maybe try TJ-'s approach, it can be better than mine.21:13
ex0rdoing it now21:13
ex0ralthough now im getting stuck at trying to mount my sd card reader21:14
osman#newbiecontest21:14
tomreynex0r: that's needed for?21:15
ex0rtomreyn: nothing, its installed in my desktop. Im not getting the errors anymore, just a screen that says 'starting version 219'21:15
ex0rwith a blinking cursor21:15
ex0rim about ready to insert the damn live cd and reinstall the damn thing, this is ridiculous.21:16
tomreyncat /etc/X11/default-display-manager21:17
ex0ryep, just sitting here.. blinking cursor, not moving at all21:17
tomreynhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/614198/starting-version-219-bug-after-the-15-04-update21:17
tomreynctrl-alt-f1 should get you a login21:17
ex0rk i am logged in21:19
tomreyncat /etc/X11/default-display-manager21:19
ex0rsays /usr/sbin/lightdm21:19
tomreynokay. the message can actually be ignored21:20
ex0rokay, but it doesnt proceed past that point21:21
ex0rit sat at that screen from the time I told you it was doing it until you told me how to get to a login screen21:21
tomreyndid you do what TJ suggested, yet?21:21
ex0ryes21:21
tomreynokay purge, then reinstall (2 steps) lightdm21:22
tomreynactually purge, then install lightdm21:22
ex0rapt-get install --purge lightdm?21:23
tomreynsudo apt-get purge '.*lightdm.*' && sudo apt-get install lightdm21:24
ex0rits going21:24
ex0rdone21:24
tomreyngot anything graphical, yet?21:25
ex0rim still in the terminal window21:25
tomreynctrl-alt-f721:25
ex0rnope21:25
ex0rstill at the starting version 219 screen21:25
tomreynback to f1 then21:25
ex0rwith the error: /dev/sdc: No medium found error21:26
ex0rk21:26
tomreynTJ-: any suggestions?21:26
tomreynlightdm doesn't seem to start even after reinstalling it21:26
tomreynafter purge + install, that is21:26
makarahi. I've just installed 15.05 on a Dell Vostro and the networking icon doesn't display in the taskbar21:27
ex0rit says on that page, for that guy anyway, it took a while to boot up, let me leave it sit for a few21:27
makaranetworking is on and wireless is active21:27
miheerdewDoes anyone know a way to sync iphone/ipad in Ubuntu 14.04? More specifically I would like to sync app data. Has someone used itunes with wine successfully for this?21:27
ex0rnope21:29
ex0rnothing so far21:29
ObrienDavereboot?21:29
ex0ri did21:29
ex0rtakes me back to the screen with nothing21:29
xanguamiheerdew: short answer is use a windows install(real or virtual)21:29
ex0r?nomodeset21:29
tomreynex0r: to put this whole thing into contect: this is taking so long because you followed a how-to which was apparently instructing you to do stuff that's not supported. and we don't have this how-to handy and can only guess bblindly what may be going wrong. either that or the mate packages in 15.04 are not actually compatible to the other desktops, but i kind of doubt that.21:29
ex0rtomreyn: the guide I used showed how to setup rdp using mate as the desktop. It was a quick 3-4 paragraph guide that used aptitude to install mate21:30
ex0rand i wish i still had the guide21:30
tomreynit could possibly have helped. now you'll need to review log files21:31
miheerdewxangua: Hmm. I guess that will be the last option. Don't want to buy a windows distribution21:31
ex0rim looking for it now21:32
TJ-I take it things aren't going well?21:32
miheerdewxangua: At some point of time I guess you could do it directly do it using Ubuntu21:34
ex0rnope21:34
tomreynTJ- his greeter isnt starting up21:34
xanguamiheerdew: that would be up to Apple to decide, Ubuntu has been able to mount iOS devices since 201021:34
tomreynTJ-: that's after: sudo apt-get purge '.*lightdm.*' && sudo apt-get install lightdm21:35
ex0rtomreyn: okay, it was a video tutorial I used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ay7toiJ6k I did this, but I used apt-get install to install mate21:35
ex0rand then I used the tutorial for the xrdp stuff21:35
TJ-ex0r: Does a  manual "text" mode (edit GRUB kernel command line) get to a regular VT login? If so, if the PC has networking too at that point, we can use pastebinit to collect information and do controlled tests of starting/stopping the display manager21:37
miheerdewxangua: I am able to mount it as a storage device, but not able to access the applications folder.21:37
ex0rTJ-: I can login using ctrl+alt+f121:37
ex0rand I can also get in via recovery21:37
tomreynex0r: try this: sudo apt-get install lightdm-greeter21:37
miheerdewxangua: Donno, when will apple make things simpler.21:38
ex0rsays it has no candidates21:38
TJ-ex0r: OK ... then at a VT you can do "sudo service lightdm start" and see how it goes. If it fails, you can review the /var/log/lightdm/ log files with 'less' (the system pager)21:38
ex0rthere is aunity-greeter though21:38
ex0rTJ-: it loads up using that, but it says at the starting version 219 screen21:39
ex0rstays*21:39
ObrienDave!info lightdm-greeter21:39
ubottuPackage lightdm-greeter does not exist in vivid21:39
TJ-ex0r: tomreyn The greeter requires is unity-greeter21:39
ex0r?nomodeset21:39
ex0r!info nomodeset21:40
ubottuPackage nomodeset does not exist in vivid21:40
ObrienDavenomodeset is a GRUB switch21:40
TJ-ex0r: "version 219" - what is that from, do we know? maybe the GPU driver?21:40
tomreynsaid to be irrelevant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/143217121:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 1432171 in systemd (Ubuntu) "[udev] Shows "starting version 219" boot message even with "quiet"" [Low,Fix released]21:41
ex0rthere was a bug that was posted by tomreyn about it, but they said that its because lightdm isnt used. Mine is using it.21:41
TJ-ex0r: OK, so that message is the left-over on the VT of systemd startup... nothing to do with X or lightdm, so that tells us that X isn't even starting. That means "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" is the first place to look21:42
TJ-ex0r: Can you do "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"  ?21:42
ex0ryup http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716655/21:43
TJ-ex0r: Well that answers that question! The video drivers have been removed from the kernel and possibly the system started with "nomodeset" too, disabling the DRI21:44
ex0rwhy are they removed?21:44
ex0rI havent touched the kernel21:45
TJ-ex0r: I have to focus back on my kernel debugging here, but the others should be able to help you solve that issue so you can move on21:45
TJ-ex0r: Those purges you did maybe forced some packages out. Anyhow, fix those issues so X0rg.0.log looks healthy and you might get on better :)21:45
ex0rrunning apt-get install fglrx right now21:47
ex0rthank you, TJ-  I will see if I can somewhat handle it from here21:48
ex0rand you too, tomreyn21:48
* tomreyn points out how he suggested running "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" a good while ago21:49
ex0rI did that earlier21:49
ex0rand it installed one, but its possible during the other stuff that it removed them again21:49
tomreynoh that's good to know21:49
ex0rnope21:50
ex0rim back to the login screen, but still cant log in to ubuntu using unity21:50
* ObrienDave ponders if an OS re-install would have been easier21:51
TJ-ex0r: OK ... is this with the  $HOME/,{cache,config} directories moved ?21:51
ex0ryes21:51
TJ-ex0r: right; I think it's time to investigate that xrdp stuff you did since that would be an obvious interference to the session if it is still there21:52
ex0rit wont even let me log in as a guest21:52
ex0rit just does that ubuntu drum roll, a black screen, and back to login21:52
TJ-ex0r: What does this report "apt-cache policy xrdp" ?21:53
ex0rhold on, booting into recoverty21:53
ex0rrecovery*21:53
azizLIGHThow do i capture all the notify-send that have been sent? i want to also mirror them to my phone21:53
TJ-azizLIGHT: I'd suspect you need a dbus listener registered21:53
ex0rshows 2 entries21:53
bjrohanHello all. Up until a few minutes ago, my wifi worked properly (running 14.04). i restarted my computer, and for some reason I am unable to turn wifi on. Any suggestions?21:54
TJ-ex0r: does it show xdrp is installed right now?21:54
azizLIGHTTJ-: maybe there is some query i can run to see last notify-sends... and then keep track of it, and when something changes, send the new one to phone21:54
ex0ryes21:54
ex0rinstalled 0.6.1-221:54
TJ-bjrohan: did you accidentally move the hardware radio kill switch on the side of the PC?21:55
TJ-ex0r: Remove it.21:55
ex0rokay its gone21:55
TJ-ex0r: OK: "sudo service lightdm restart"21:55
ex0rgotta restart, I was in recovery21:56
lyndelhey guys am having a minor problem on my labtop on ubuntu i have a sd card inserted in the SD card reader but ubuntu cant even detect it? on windows its detecting it but asking me to formate which i wont do as o know i have data on that sd card but for now why cant ubuntu detect my sdcard?21:56
lyndelubuntu 15,0421:56
TJ-ex0r: you can just switch to user mode with "telinit 2"21:56
bjrohanTJ I have an HP that I don't believe has a harware switch. Tuning on the keyboard switch (f12) doesn't do anything21:56
ex0rdoh21:56
TJ-bjrohan: Get to a terminal command-line and check using "sudo rfkill list"21:57
bjrohanTJ nothing comes up, it just returns a prompt21:57
ex0rokay, removing xrdp did not appear to do it. Still doing the same thing.21:57
bjrohanTJ-: nothing comes up, it just returns a prompt21:58
TJ-lyndel: The reader device probably needs a kernel driver loading to support it. To identify which you'd need to know the specific chipset used in the reader and its controller. I'm guessing something on the MMC side21:58
TJ-bjrohan: what make/model is the PC?21:58
TJ-ex0r: Right, but its removed one large variable from the equation :)21:58
ex0ryea21:58
ex0rand for some reason press ctrl+alt+f1 on the login screen takes me to a black screen21:59
lyndelweird22:00
lyndelex0r u getting blank screen at both bootup and after logout? like i did?22:01
ex0rlyndel: no22:01
lyndeland your forced to do lightdm restart to get it working?22:02
lyndeloh ok22:02
bjrohanTJ-: It is an HP envy dv722:02
lyndelTj sorry just seeing ur reply22:02
lyndelwell the sd card reader is inbuilt into the labtop and i thought ubuntu would install the drivers for it so how can i install it myself?22:03
lyndeltj also ubuntu is confusing i cant see all my hardware in settings and the drivers is there no program simular to device manager on windows on linux? so i can see a complete list of all my hardware?22:04
lyndelTJ22:05
ex0rOk, im ready to go back to ubuntu 14, im just going to reinsert the livecd and reinstall it22:05
lyndeltj?22:06
OerHekslyndel, lspci should show it, but i know some sdcardreaders are not supported, especially when there are 2 available22:06
ObrienDavelyndel, type tj then hit TAB to complete the proper nick22:07
lyndeli did but he quit  but anyway to get the drivers?22:07
Bashing-omlyndel: Looks like TJ-'s test box crashed " ~TJ@jeeves.iam.tj] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] ' I expect he will return soonest .22:07
lyndeli really need it to work on linux22:07
lyndelok22:08
ObrienDaveah so, calling the missing TJ- ;P22:08
lyndellol22:08
lyndelbut serioulys tho how to get the missing drivers?22:08
ObrienDavesudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall22:11
InterNIClyndel: what type of laptop, is it a netbook or what?22:11
lyndelDell22:11
lyndeloh22:11
lyndellabtop dell22:12
lyndelInterNIC, sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall dont work22:13
lyndelguys22:14
InterNIClyndel: I didn't tell you that22:14
ObrienDaveit was suggested earlier for another driver issue22:14
lyndelohhh22:16
lyndelInterNIC, lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$  lspci | grep Card22:16
lyndel03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b3)22:16
lyndellyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$22:16
lyndelso it is detected then?22:17
lyndelguys?22:22
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rOm3Ohi22:23
DWSRHey all, I have an application that's complaining about no free disk space, but df is reporting as follows: /dev/sda2                57G   24G   31G  44% /22:23
bekksDWSR: So whats the full output of "df -h"? Put it into a pastebin please.22:25
EriC^^DWSR: which application?22:25
DWSRbekks: http://pastebin.com/K31KsiiY22:26
DWSREriC^^: It's the MusicBrainz Server setup scripts. It's dumping info into Postgres.22:26
bekksDWSR: Did you edit your paste?22:26
lyndelguys?22:26
DWSRbekks: Just removed my username from it. That's all.22:26
bekksDWSR: Your username isnt confidential :)22:27
OerHekslyndel, so it is a sdcard partition issue? what does "sudo fdisk -l "say?22:27
DWSRbekks: Pretend I'm wearing a tinfoil hat.22:27
lyndeloh wait22:27
DWSRbekks: Regardless, that's not really relevant. df is pretty clearly showing me that there's free space on /22:29
regeditso yeah, i absolutely, positively, irrefutably, cannot succeed to setup a Windows + Ubuntu dual boot on this laptoppp.....................22:29
EriC^^regedit: why not?22:30
regeditEriC^^: not sure, but some things seem to point in the direction of BIOS/UEFI issues22:30
lyndelDWSR, http://paste.opensuse.org/2737031522:30
EriC^^regedit: what happens?22:30
lyndelOerHeks, http://paste.opensuse.org/2737031522:31
regeditEriC^^: so bios is set to UEFI enabled. Windows installs OK. then during ubuntu  install, i get a weird warning22:31
EriC^^regedit: what warning?22:31
regeditEriC^^: something to the effect of "...the other OS seems to have been installed with legacy bios not UEFI, you might not be able to boot to it..."22:31
EriC^^oh wow22:32
Ben64lyndel: what version of linux do you have22:32
francslt22:32
regeditEriC^^: sure enough, after completing install, ubuntu boots fine, but windows is unreachable22:32
DWSRregedit: Yes. You installed Windows 8 in legacy mode, I would expect.22:32
OerHeksfunny, paste.opensuse .. please use paste.ubuntu.com22:32
EriC^^regedit: which ubuntu is this?22:32
lyndelBen64 ubuntu 15.0422:32
regeditbut did I? UEFI was enabled in BIOS!22:32
DWSRregedit: Not the only requirement to get Windows 8 to install in UEFI mode. :D22:32
EriC^^regedit: ok, hold on'22:32
DWSR(I've tripped up on this as well.22:32
regeditKubuntu 15.0422:32
regeditx6422:32
EriC^^regedit: are you in ubuntu right now?22:32
Ben64lyndel: unplug the card, wait 20 seconds, plug the card back in, pastebin the output of "dmesg"22:33
regeditEriC^^: liveCD yes22:33
regeditDWSR: oh?...22:33
OerHekslydelno partition there, so get a recovery tool like photorec/recuva to see if there is something to see22:33
lyndelBen64,  ok wait22:33
EriC^^regedit: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999922:33
EriC^^is there any software that can make png's into a gif? openshot can make a video to a png's but how can i make them into a gif?22:34
ObrienDaveanimated gif?22:34
regeditEriC^^: uh.... http://termbin.com/naui ?22:34
EriC^^ObrienDave: yes22:35
regeditDWSR: what are the other requirements?22:35
EriC^^regedit: ok, type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi22:35
regeditEriC^^: ok, there are some files listed22:36
lyndelBen64, that wont work output is too big to post online too huge22:36
EriC^^ok, well you're booted in uefi mode right now, but both windows and ubuntu are both installed in legacy mode22:36
DWSRregedit: http://www.eightforums.com/installation-setup/25561-windows-8-install-uefi-mode.html <-- links for Windows 7 and 8 are in the second or third post down22:36
EriC^^regedit:22:36
ObrienDave!pastebin | lyndel22:36
ubottulyndel: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:36
lyndeli said its too large to paste al get a warning22:37
SubCoolok, im banging my head over ehre. Can someone help me find softare ro something that i can use to sort my pictures? Their filenames are of the date they were taken. Im looking to have them categorized into folders based on the date (their filename) SHotwell keeps crashing, and picasa is acting up as usual.22:37
EriC^^regedit: boot into ubuntu normally, and not the live usb22:37
regeditEriC^^: this particular time round, i tried installing them both in legacy mode (i had read that that could help), still no luck i guess22:37
EriC^^regedit: you probably need to make a custom entry for windows and you'll be good22:37
Ben64lyndel: well use a better paste service, not sure why you used opensuse22:37
ObrienDavelyndel, you did not read the factoid22:37
EriC^^regedit: when you installed both in uefi mode, only ubuntu booted?22:38
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regeditEriC^^: yup, DWSR seems to be of the opinion that windows did not in fact install as UEFI mode22:38
lyndelhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11716839/ ?22:38
EriC^^regedit: it could be so, also the warning message and all, ubuntu is pretty good at picking up the windows .efi file22:39
regeditso i'm currently reading through the page DWSR linked, see what gives...22:40
ObrienDavelyndel, see? that was easy ;P22:40
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EriC^^regedit: do you want to reinstall in uefi? or fix it as it is?22:40
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regediti dont mind resinstalling in UEFI22:40
ScuniziWill the "hidden" restore partition for Win 7 remain usable after adding 3 additional partitions for an Ubuntu install? The partition is triggered with the F11 key if that makes a difference..22:40
Decoy_PlatypusGuys, update-grub is freezing on me. I recently upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04. Now when I try to run apt-get autoremove to get rid of old kernels, when it gets to the end it tries to update-grub, it freezes after printing that it found Memtest.22:40
ObrienDaveScunizi, yes as long as your ubuntu partitions are all under an extended partition22:41
EriC^^regedit: ok, try to use the live usb right now to create a gpt partition table22:41
Ben64lyndel: doesn't seem like it sees the card22:41
TJ-Decoy_Platypus: has the /boot/ partition run out of space?22:41
Decoy_PlatypusTJ-: good question, i'll check22:42
ScuniziObrienDave: cool.. I was going to use an extended partition anyway.. Thanks for the ingo22:42
lyndelBen64 what now?22:42
ObrienDaveScunizi, yw22:42
TJ-Decoy_Platypus: if it's removed kernels you'd think there'd be space remaining22:42
Ben64lyndel: get a usb card reader?22:42
EriC^^regedit: type sudo gdisk /dev/sdb22:42
lyndelits inbuilt into the labtop22:42
lyndelwhat else do i do to fix this?22:43
EriC^^regedit: you there?22:43
Decoy_PlatypusTJ-: looks like I dont have a separate /boot partition, and / has plenty22:43
Ben64lyndel: does "ls -l /dev/mmc*" show anything22:44
TJ-Decoy_Platypus: How about if you run it manually: "sudo update-grub"22:45
lyndelBen64, lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$ ls -l /dev/mmc22:45
lyndells: cannot access /dev/mmc: No such file or directory22:45
lyndellyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$22:45
Ben64lyndel: doesn't see the card22:48
TJ-lyndel: Can you show me: "pastebinit <(lspci -nn)" ?22:48
OerHekslyndel, so windows does not see it, linux also, try a recovery tool like photorec/recuva to see if there is something to see22:48
lyndelBen64, this will work? is it true about ubuntu disabling it by default? http://vasanthkg.blogspot.com/2011/06/howto-read-your-sd-card-with-your.html22:48
lyndelTj ur back ok wait22:48
Ben64lyndel: not true22:48
Decoy_PlatypusTJ-: same thing. It finds several kernels, then memtest and just sits there22:48
TJ-lyndel: in and out; debugging kernel builds :)22:48
TJ-Decoy_Platypus: That's good! Being able to reproduce it means you can trace it22:48
Decoy_PlatypusTJ-: wait, this time it worked..22:48
Decoy_PlatypusTJ-: sorry, I had run it before and it locked up again22:48
TJ-Decoy_Platypus: The usual cause is the system thinks there is a disk drive connected that has gone away so hangs up waiting for it forever. Does this still happen after a reboot ?22:48
lyndelTj http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716874/22:48
TJ-lyndel: OK, so the PC has a Ricoh R5C552 controller22:49
lyndeltj yep22:49
Decoy_PlatypusTJ-: that sounds plausible. This is an old machine that has been dormant for a while. I may have moved a disk from it a while back.22:49
TJ-lyndel: Mine has a Ricoh R5C822 so we can compare to some extent22:50
Decoy_PlatypusTJ-: I'll try a reboot now22:50
lyndeltj lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$  lspci | grep Card22:50
lyndel03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b3)22:50
lyndelok22:50
regeditwhoops, bad connection over qwebirc...22:50
regeditEriC^^ / DWSR did I miss anything?22:50
regeditoh did DWSR disconnect22:51
lyndelBen64, u read the site the solution there will work?22:51
TJ-lyndel: show us "pastebinit <(lspci -s 03:01.2 -nnvvvv)"22:51
EriC^^regedit: i was saying you could make a fresh gpt partition first, then try installing windows in uefi mode22:51
EriC^^regedit: are you in the live usb?22:51
Ben64lyndel: no22:51
regeditEriC^^: yes i am now in live USB, and I think BIOS is currently UEFI enabled, I *think*....22:52
lyndeltj that command not working u sure its typed good? pastebinit <(lspci -s?22:53
EriC^^regedit: ok, do you need any data on the hdd?22:53
regeditEriC^^: nope22:54
EriC^^anybody know anything about the png to gif converter?22:54
lyndelBen64, read the site tell me if its a ood solution or not22:54
lyndelgood22:54
Ben64lyndel: pretty sure i said no like thrice already22:54
TJ-lyndel: The number after the "-s" is the bus number of the device, taken from your pastebin ... try taking 1 'v' off the end :)22:54
EriC^^regedit: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999922:54
regeditEriC^^: http://termbin.com/qs6j22:55
ObrienDaveEriC^^, have you tried GIMP?22:56
lyndelTj http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716899/22:56
Decoy_PlatypusTJ-: After the reboot I was able to run apt-get autoremove with no problems. Thanks for the help22:57
regeditEriC^^: if I understand correctly i also have some steps to take for installing windows as UEFI http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html22:57
TJ-lyndel: good news, the kernel driver is there: sdhci-pci22:57
EriC^^ObrienDave: nope22:57
lyndeltj so why it wont detect my card then?22:57
TJ-lyndel: what type is the card, and what capacity?22:58
OerHekslyndel, same reason as your windows didn't detect it?22:58
EriC^^ObrienDave: any idea where?22:58
EriC^^regedit: type sudo gdisk /dev/sdb22:58
ObrienDaveEriC^^, nope, let me look22:59
lyndeltj Samsung mirco SD card windows finds it but wont let me use it unless i format but i wonnt as i know there is data on the card22:59
regeditEriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716907/22:59
TJ-lyndel: Have you monitored the kernel log whilst plugging in the SD-Card, in case there are I/O errors reported?  "tail -f /var/log/kern.log"23:00
EriC^^regedit: press "o"23:00
lyndeloh wait23:00
blzHello, I just did chmod 750 mydirectory and the file permissions are now set to drwxr-x---.  I thought 5 meant rx (and permissions-calculator.org seems to support this hypothesis).  What am I doing wrong?23:00
TJ-lyndel: But what type is it? SDHC, SDXC, etc, and what capacity?23:00
bekksblz: 5 means r+x23:01
bekksblz: whats your issue with it?23:01
regeditEriC^^: This option deletes all partitions and creates a new protective MBR. Proceed? (Y/N) I'm guessing confirm? :)23:01
blzbekks, so shouldnt I have drwxr-xr-x ?23:01
TJ-lyndel: That Ricoh controller is quite old and may not support the SDXC standard required to read higher capacity cards23:01
regeditEriC^^: i won't confirm confirmations with you from this point onward, if that works better23:01
ObrienDaveEriC^^, GIMP has an export animated GIF function. i have no clue how to use it23:01
bekksblz: No. 750 is drwxr-x---23:01
bekksblz: 755 would be drwxr-xr-x23:02
bekks!permissions | blz23:02
ubottublz: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions23:02
blzbekks, oh my god I've been reading file permissions wrongly for years...23:02
blzgood lord...23:02
* blz bangs forehead on table23:02
blzthanks, bekks23:02
blzThank god I'm not a professional sysadmin23:03
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rOm3Olol blz :D23:03
EriC^^blz: read is 4, write is 2, execute is 1, so read+execute means 4+1=5, first digit is for user, then group, then others23:03
ObrienDavewe would tend to agree ;P23:03
rOm3Oyou are so fuffy blz23:03
EriC^^blz: if there are 4 digits, like 2755, the first digit is for setuid setgid, sticky bit, etc.23:03
bekksblz: And if there are three additional digits, those are for ACL.23:04
EriC^^ObrienDave: interesting, how do you get there though, i can't seem to find it23:04
blzYeah yeah it all makes sense now.  I was just off-by-one :/  I stupidly assumed the dashes in, say, drwxr-xr-x were separators23:04
blzbut they're not...23:04
EriC^^regedit: no, confirming is fine23:05
lyndelTj http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716921/23:05
EriC^^regedit: yes press ok to create a new protective mbr23:05
regeditEriC^^: OK then :) Command (? for help):23:05
EriC^^ok, press "w" to write the new table23:05
ObrienDaveEriC^^, open an image. file, export as, select GIF, options show animated stuff. iirc23:05
ObrienDavei'll look again23:06
lyndeltj is that bad?23:06
TJ-lyndel: There you go then, that explains it. So... what type is the SD Card and what capacity? If it's larger than 8 or 16GB it may use a revision of the SD specifications the controller can't understasnd23:06
regeditEriC^^: Final checks complete. About to write GPT data. THIS WILL OVERWRITE EXISTING PARTITIONS!! Do you want to proceed? (Y/N):23:06
EriC^^regedit: yes23:07
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regeditEriC^^: OK; writing new GUID partition table (GPT) to /dev/sdb. Warning: The kernel is still using the old partition table. The new table will be used at the next reboot. The operation has completed successfully.23:07
lyndeltj Samsung Micro SD card Adapter with 2GB micro SD23:07
EriC^^ObrienDave: ah i see, thanks, no idea how to use it too though :>23:08
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ObrienDaveyour guess is as good as mine ;P23:08
TJ-lyndel: Does the card have a printed symbol on like "SDHC" or "SDXC" ?23:08
TJ-lyndel: 2GB card shouldn't be an issue, but the interface might be23:09
EriC^^regedit: ok, reboot and try to install windows23:09
TJ-lyndel: Did you say another device is able to read the contents of the card correctly?23:09
lyndeltj sorry no its not there23:09
EriC^^regedit: make sure uefi is selected in the bios, and btw how are you installing windows? from usb?23:10
lyndeltj i never tryed a next device and windows detects it but wont let me use it unless its formated so i know it works23:11
TJ-lyndel: Windows telling you that means it can't read the card and thinks it is unformatted. Do you have a smart phone that can read the card? I'm guessing right now the card itself is damaged23:11
regeditEriC^^: good questions, yes USB drive. Actually I need to rewrite the USB drive again now... might need to boot back into ubuntu live for that...23:12
EriC^^regedit: are you using a live usb for ubuntu? or cd?23:13
regeditEriC^^: I have the ISO / files of the Windows installation on an external drive, I need to put it on a USB now, should be straightforward from within ubuntu live?23:13
regeditEriC^^: live USB23:13
regeditEriC^^: short on devices here, currently it has ubuntu on it, i need to write windows to it...23:13
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regeditEriC^^: i do have nother internal drive though, but I may have just wiped it now too23:14
EriC^^ok, that means windows should boot into uefi since ubuntu is23:14
n-sthi, i've got a bit of an issue with the virtualbox-qt package from the trusty-updates repo (after installing the current virtualbox version from oracle's repo):23:14
n-st virtualbox-dkms : Depends: virtualbox (>= 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5)23:14
n-st virtualbox-qt : Depends: virtualbox (= 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5)23:14
EriC^^( i mean without needing to set something in the bios )23:14
regeditEriC^^: apparently there's more to it http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html23:15
n-stis there some way to override that incorrect fixed dependency of virtualbox-qt?23:15
EriC^^regedit: yeah, it's not that straightforward23:15
EriC^^regedit: i've never done it myself but i was going to once23:15
lyndeltj wait am trying it on my digi cam23:16
EriC^^regedit: it should be ok23:17
lyndeltj a next sdcard does work so maybe it is damaged23:17
ObrienDavesdcards don't last forever23:17
TJ-lyndel: I've seen a lot of the older SD cards do that... they can be very sensitive to static discharge23:18
ObrienDavethe one in my phone went into read only mode. had to buy a new one23:18
FlynnCould anyone help me with a screen brightness problems? I've tried everything and if my charging cable is not plugged in, my screen dims after 10 seconds of no movement without fail. very annoying!23:19
TJ-ObrienDave: that's when the wear levelling reaches its limit23:19
lyndeltj thanks alot for your help i guess i have to get a new one this suckss all the data is lost now23:19
TJ-lyndel: yeah... always backup your backups :)23:19
B0g4r7EriC^^, you're trying to write a Windows install media to a USB stick?  I did that the other week.  I used unetbootin and it worked for me.23:20
wakennnhi quick question23:20
EriC^^B0g4r7: regedit is23:20
B0g4r7er...yeah.23:20
wakennncan i create a minimal UEFI installation with Ubuntu?23:20
regeditoh thanks!23:20
wakennnthe minimal CD is BIOS only23:20
EriC^^B0g4r7: were you booting it in uefi mode?23:20
EriC^^not sure if that matters23:20
B0g4r7EriC^^, I don't know.  Probably not.23:20
TJ-wakennn: Use the server install media23:20
regeditEriC^^: rebooting into ubuntu live to write the windows stuff to the drive, hope i survive this... :)23:21
wakennnTJ-: I looked at it, how does it handle preinstalled ESP from Windows? does it use GRUb2?23:21
B0g4r7Hmm.  Power just went out here for a couple seconds.  The UPS did its thing and I'm still online.23:21
EriC^^regedit: :)23:21
wakennnTJ-: oh and it still can do everything normal Ubuntu can do, right? PPA's, new kernels23:22
TJ-wakennn: Yes, it's standard GRUB install23:22
lyndeltj take care and thanks again :)23:22
TJ-wakennn: About the only difference to minimal is it contains a bunch of server specific packages which you can optionally choose to install23:23
wakennnTJ-: and does it autodetect and use Windows' ESP?23:23
wakennnTJ-: and PPA's I can use the same?23:23
wakennnand get new Kernels/cutting edge this way?23:23
TJ-wakennn: if the media boots in UEFI mode then it'll install in EFI mode. The ESP doesn't belong to Windows, it belongs to the firmware23:24
wakennnTJ-: I might need kernel 4.0 for some hardware and don't want any unity/gnome: is server good for this? I see the kernel included in 15.04 is 3.19...23:27
TJ-!mainline | You can use a mainline kernel23:28
ubottuYou can use a mainline kernel: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds23:28
wakennnshould I dd /dev/zero a prvious OS usb or can I dd over it TJ- ?23:32
wakennnthanks for all your help by the way23:32
FlynnCould anyone help me with a screen brightness problems? I've tried everything and if my charging cable is not plugged in, my screen dims after 10 seconds of no movement without fail. very annoying!23:34
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TJ-wakennn: Writing to it will overwrite. However, depending on a device's underlying technology if you write all zeros first the device may remap any bad sectors it detects (commonly hard disks use 0 as the 'empty' marker) but NAND Flash uses 0xFF (255) although the controller may flip that so zero is the correct value.23:36
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TinyStreamingLorNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
RollingCutieWhelNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
tiburciaNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
RawCheetahNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
PilotCamNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
SkinnyDollyNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
ChickenMooseNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
ChickenMooseNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
ChickenMooseNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
BeaverRichyNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
BeaverRichyNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
BeaverRichyNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
smikeNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
FrozenFastJuggleNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
SkinnyDollyNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
RollingCutieWhelNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
smikeNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
TinyStreamingLorNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
BeaverRichyNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
tiburciaNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
RawCheetahNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
PilotCamNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
darthanubiswow23:39
TinyStreamingLorNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
BeaverRichyNoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOb23:39
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nnnn20430wow indeed23:39
FlannelSorry about that all.23:40
TJ-Flannel: you handled it quickly, no need to apologise :)23:40
ObrienDaveROFL23:40
OerHeksThanks.23:40
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TJ-I guess that's what happens when daftykins says "Hello" :)23:41
daftykins*nod*23:41
ObrienDavedang it daftykins! ;P23:41
daftykinsi'm sorry, fellow volunteers23:42
TJ-daftykins: for punishment you can finish off bisecting these kernel bugs I'm chasing :)23:42
Johnny_Linuxwoohoo23:42
* TJ- is rebooting to test another kernel23:44
MichaelTiebesl?23:45
regeditEriC^^: uh, don't have the actual windows ISO image handy (I can get it, but maybe I can do without) is it possible to boot windows installation by simply cpying the right files into the drive, and just make the drive bootable or something?23:46
daftykinsonly EFI boot can be made via file copy23:46
daftykinsif the EFI boot image file is present :)23:46
Flannelserenoa: 11.04 is EOL, after things are EOL for a little bit, their archives get removed from the main servers.23:46
regeditoh23:46
regeditdaftykins: can I make it EFI boot from within ubuntu?23:46
regeditor do i need to be in windows..... circular dependency...23:47
daftykinsregedit: when you say 'copying the right files' - which do you have handy if not an ISO?23:47
regeditdaftykins: currently i have the files themselves that are within the ISO, were you to mount it23:47
regeditnot the actual original ISO though...23:47
daftykinswin7?23:47
regedit8.123:47
EriC^^regedit: no, you need to have a recovery disk, and extract that image23:47
regeditx6423:47
daftykinsregedit: look for /boot/bootx64.efi23:48
regeditdaftykins: i find a bit different: /efi/boot/bootx64.efi, /efi/x64.efi,23:49
regeditdaftykins: but not directly under /boot23:50
daftykinsregedit: my bad yep, i just was checking that. so if you pasted that entire directory tree into the root of a flash drive formatted as FAT, it will boot on an EFI capable system23:50
daftykinsregedit: however if you legally own win8 you can download ISOs direct from MS23:51
regeditdaftykins: yep i know, slow connection though, so trying to survive without...23:51
daftykinsroger that23:51
regeditah so it needs to be FAT then? is it possible to put that together from here in ubuntu?23:52
regeditFAT or FAT32, or either23:52
daftykinsyes, since it involves formatting a drive and copying files :>23:52
daftykinswhether your machine is EFI capable is the more iffy bit23:52
regeditdaftykins: so - my file structure is fine? no need to move around any of those boot efi stuff?23:52
daftykinspossibly. but once you make it, throwing a file here and there isn't much effort23:53
regeditdaftykins: well my BIOS does show a UEFI option, and i have successfully installed ubuntu as UEFI, or i'm pretty sure anyway....23:53
daftykinsheh23:53
daftykins!efi23:54
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:54
daftykinsyou can confirm there23:54
regedituh, new to formatting under linux here, how do i know which sd** is the disk i'm trying to format with mkdosfs ?23:58
FlannelHi folks.  If you're not using a registered nick, you were muted for the past few minutes because of some spam issues.  So if people weren't responding, assume it's because you weren't heard and retry.23:58
regeditdaftykins: currently the drive is NTFS and contains that file structure, but can't seem to boot to it...23:59
FlannelAlso, if you're unregistered, you cannot currently join this channel (due to the aformentioned spam), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration  for information on how to register your nick.23:59
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regeditdaftykins: does it specifically need to be FAT?23:59
daftykinsregedit: because it's not FAT23:59

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