[00:00] <jean-guy> well, if I double clic on a mp3, for example,  it is parole media player that tries to open/ play the tune
[00:00] <jean-guy> but it does not work well
[00:00] <jean-guy> so now, i have to do a right clic, open with, and select  rhythm box
[00:01] <EriC^^> jean-guy: ok, right click on the mp3, and press properties > open with , choose one and press set as default
[00:02] <jean-guy> okee cool, thanks Eric
[00:02] <EriC^^> no problem
[00:02] <jean-guy> I only have to set thse paramaters  ONE time, right?
[00:02] <EriC^^> yup
[00:05] <celton> hello?
[00:05] <promet> celton, hai!
[00:06] <promet> Does anyone know, is there a way in Unity (15.04) to have alt-tab show apps on all workspaces, rather than just the current workspace?
[00:11] <steveyh19> hi, would anyone be able to help me with an alt-tabbing issue I have with ubuntu 15.04? Whenever a game is running in windowed mode (and has vsync enabled - there's no issue when it's turned off) then alt tabbing has a 1-2 second delay between switching windows (even if I mouse click between them too)
[00:11] <steveyh19> Xorg cpu usage shoots up at this moment too
[00:12] <Turnip_G1> promet Ctrl+Alt+Arrow key swaps work space, Alt+Tab apps in workspaces.
[00:12] <kuba7447> is mir dead yet?
[00:13] <MonkeyDust> !mir
[00:13] <kuba7447> !wayland
[00:14] <kuba7447> mir, "next-generation"
[00:14] <kuba7447> lol
[00:16] <kuba7447> having to display servers is a bad idea....
[00:16] <kuba7447> *two
[00:19] <astroboy> How to show list of main app using terminal? i mean only show main apps just like apps showed on dash
[00:19] <astroboy> #juicessh
[00:20] <EriC^^> astroboy: ls /usr/share/applications
[00:22] <astroboy> thx EriC^^
[00:23] <EriC^^> np
[00:24] <astroboy> i also have problem when trying to start clementine from other device remotely using ssh, but work well when i run using terminal locally, what wrong??
[00:24] <EriC^^> how are you trying to start it?
[00:25] <EriC^^> you need x-forwarding
[00:25] <astroboy> oh, what's x-forwarding? port/
[00:26] <EriC^^> it forwards the x (gui) to your current pc
[00:26] <EriC^^> so clementine runs on the server, but the gui is displayed on your pc's x server
[00:26] <EriC^^> if you don't need a gui, you could just run mplayer /path/to/mp3
[00:27] <astroboy> no idon't need gui
[00:27] <EriC^^> ok, use mplayer /path/to/mp3
[00:28] <EriC^^> i think it should work
[00:28] <EriC^^> not sure
[00:28] <EriC^^> actually i think it won't, give it a shot though :>
[00:29] <astroboy> yah, let me first install mplayer
[00:30] <EriC^^> astroboy: you could use sshfs maybe and play it on your pc
[00:30] <EriC^^> or just scp the mp3 you want to play
[00:30] <bazhang> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/commandline.html
[00:31] <bazhang> it does work
[00:31] <EriC^^> bazhang: ssh won't forward the audio right
[00:31] <EriC^^> it does? over ssh?
[00:32] <bazhang> I missed that part, worth a shot though
[00:33] <astroboy> EriC^^, i thing won't too, but i only want to control my music player, actually the server is may pc in my home :)
[00:34] <Nikesh> Is there a list somewhere of the best supported/recommended laptops to run Ubuntu on?
[00:34] <EriC^^> !certified
[00:34] <Nikesh> !certified
[00:35] <Nikesh> Hm.. not found
[00:35] <bazhang> !hcl
[00:35] <Johnny_Linux> just google ubuntu cert laptops
[00:36] <EriC^^> Nikesh: also http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[00:37] <Bolvaron> Hi, just wanted to ask if it is possible to run DX-Games with ubuntu, cause im thinking about getting rid of windows but im a gamer
[00:38] <bazhang> Bolvaron, with wine
[00:38] <Felishia> hello
[00:38] <bazhang> !appdb | Bolvaron
[00:39] <promet> kuba7447, of wayland & mir, which do you find the least repulsive.
[00:40] <Bolvaron> right now im running ubuntu from stick (15.04), and there is one specific game, my hardware should be more than enough
[00:40] <James46929> Hello all
[00:40] <bazhang> Bolvaron,  usb stick will be way too slow for that
[00:41] <guest-7yCX2D> ctrc
[00:41] <James46929> Anyone using SSD?
[00:41] <Bolvaron> i know, bazhang, the installation depends on getting game to run
[00:42] <bazhang> !trim | James46929
[00:42] <kuba7447> promet, repulsive?
[00:42] <bazhang> promet, thats not a support question
[00:43] <James46929> How hard would it be to clone a SATA to SSD?
[00:43] <bazhang> James46929, same as any other, not hard
[00:43] <kuba7447> i dont like mir because only ubuntu benefits from it, no other distros
[00:43] <Johnny_Linux> you dont have to use it
[00:44] <bazhang> promet, kuba7447 please take this chat to the offtopic channel, thanks
[00:44] <James46929> ...so no issues with a hard drive of one type moved to a hard drive of a different type.
[00:45] <bazhang> correct James46929
[00:45] <Felishia> :3 I need my music making program in my linux... e.e
[00:45] <Felishia> wine doesn't work
[00:45] <psusi> James46929, nope... only difference is in performance characteristics
[00:45] <bazhang> ardour rosegarden and the like Felishia
[00:46] <bazhang> check out ubuntustudio Felishia
[00:46] <bazhang> !studio | Felishia
[00:46] <Felishia> I don't like rosegarden, it's too complicated like finale, ends up freezing my creativity because I have to care that the score looks right
[00:47] <bazhang> !equivalents | Felishia search here then
[00:47] <MACscr> i already have the virtual kernel installed, but it doesnt appear to be used. i was using it before though, so not sure why it switched back to generic. Is there a proper way to switch to the virtual kernel besides manually updating the menu.lst?
[00:47] <James46929> Thanks all! Should I use Clonezilla or is there other options?
[00:47] <bazhang> James46929, with out without the gui
[00:47] <EriC^^> James46929: make sure you take into consideration the size of the hdd you're going to clone it to
[00:48] <Bolvaron> OK, found all i need, but i think i have to backup the game to my USB-Drive
[00:49] <Bolvaron> as my livesystem doesnt seem to access my 1TB GPT-HDD
[00:49] <James46929> I am planning of going from 300 to 500 gig
[00:49] <bazhang> make it persistent then Bolvaron
[00:50] <bazhang> !usb
[00:50] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: do you have windows on it? probably cause of the fast shutdown
[00:50] <bazhang> last link Bolvaron
[00:50] <Bolvaron> i want to get the /home on the 1TB, so i have to backup my files
[00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[00:51] <HallateM> I used to have a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[00:51] <Bolvaron> my plan is: /boot, /swap and / on my 128GB SSD, and /home on my big HDD
[00:51] <James46929> Totally different question. Anyone worked with voice commands for ubuntu?
[00:53] <Bolvaron> what do you think of my plan_
[00:54] <ObrienDave> Bolvaron, /swap will kill your SSD
[00:54] <compdoc> no it wont
[00:54] <Bolvaron> so swap on the HDD?
[00:54] <compdoc> ssd is best place for swap
[00:54] <ObrienDave> an SSD has a limited write life. it's your SSD do what you like
[00:55] <James46929> Is swap needed for SSD?
[00:55] <Bolvaron> i have a rather good rig, 4770K and GTX 780 with 16gb RAM
[00:55] <Bolvaron> so gaming should be doable
[00:55] <ObrienDave> how much RAM do you have?
[00:55] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: A separate /boot is something of an anachronism, dating back to limited PC BIOSes that could only handle small disks, so the boot files had to be at the start of the disk.
[00:55] <Bolvaron> 16GB
[00:55] <ObrienDave> then /swap is NOT needed
[00:55] <ObrienDave> at all
[00:56] <EriC^^> ( unless you want to be able to hibernate )
[00:56] <Bolvaron> Bashing-om doesnt linux install a /boot when installing bootloader?
[00:57] <James46929> My laptop has 4 gig ram.... swap advised on SSD?
[00:57] <Felishia> meh nothing looks good :( too profesional for my taste
[00:57] <Felishia> I need to think of sounds not of notes
[00:58] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: No, not a seperate /boot partition. the boot is included with '/' .
[00:59] <Bolvaron> ok, so ill just save the game on my 32GB Stick, cause i cant access my HDD from Linux (GPT 1TB)
[01:00] <Bolvaron> and when i install linux ill format the big disc as /home, ill be back when ive done that
[01:00] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: There should be no reason that from linux you can not access a 1Tb drive . ( maybe Mac file system ?) .
[01:00] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: why not
[01:01] <Bolvaron> the only discs i see are the live-stick and the System-partition on SSD
[01:01] <Bolvaron> and a DVD
[01:01] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: type lsblk
[01:01] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: Does bios see the 1TB drive ?
[01:02] <promet> Bolvaron, it may not be automounting, what filesystem is on the 1TB
[01:02] <MACscr> no one has advice for simply switching to the virtual kernel and thus updates will keep using thew newest virtual kernel as well?
[01:02] <James46929> Anyone using Lubuntu in particular?
[01:02] <Bolvaron> filesystem GPT / NTFS
[01:02] <promet> James46929, lil' bit, why>
[01:02] <promet> ?
[01:03] <Bolvaron> disk is listed as sdb
[01:03] <Bolvaron> partition sdb3
[01:03] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: type sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt
[01:03] <EriC^^> does it have windows on it?
[01:03] <promet> Bolvaron, so, you can see it, it's just not mounted...
[01:03] <Bolvaron> mount: /dev/sdb3 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[01:03] <Bolvaron> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb3,
[01:03] <Bolvaron>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[01:04] <James46929> Thinking about lubuntu on acer netbook to put together a linux type mobile office.
[01:04] <jwash> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb3 /mnt
[01:04] <promet> do "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"
[01:04] <Dr_Dan> Use xubuntu 14.04 on the Acer
[01:04] <promet> what jwash said, if it is indeed ntfs
[01:04] <Dr_Dan> i have asus netbook
[01:05] <EriC^^> it shouldn't need -t ntfs
[01:05] <Bolvaron> its ntfs but without MBR
[01:05] <Johnny_Linux> xubuntu will work well on asus
[01:05] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: gpt works fine with linux
[01:05] <Dr_Dan> ^ ditto
[01:05] <Bolvaron> getting error again
[01:05] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: do you have important data on it?
[01:05]  * Felishia dances
[01:05] <James46929> xbuntu instead lubuntu? what is advantage?
[01:06] <Bolvaron> mz whole games are on it
[01:06] <bazhang> Felishia, not here
[01:06] <Bolvaron> my
[01:06] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: maybe the hdd is going bad? need to use the backup superblock? etc.
[01:06] <Dr_Dan> Runs xfce window manager.  Therefore fast
[01:07] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:07] <EriC^^> and paste the link here so somebody can check if your hdd is healthy
[01:07] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Bolvaron Is there a hold on the drive such that ubuntu will not touch it , such as "safely unmount" the drive from within Windows ??
[01:07] <James46929> distrowatch said lubuntu uses less resources. Is that wrong?
[01:07] <Bolvaron> ok tring
[01:08] <Dr_Dan> actually i have 5 asus netbooks, the 1015PX,  all with xubuntu.  Wifey loves hers.  Kids do too
[01:08] <psusi> Bolvaron, first, do as the message indicated and run dmesg and see if there are any interesting errors towards the end
[01:08] <Bolvaron> http://termbin.com/6z8f
[01:08] <Dr_Dan> easier to support too
[01:08] <Dr_Dan> :-)
[01:08] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: sorry, sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:09] <promet> James46929, I was recently shopping through distros to save an aged laptop and, in my case xubuntu was, indeed, faster than Lubuntu
[01:09] <Dr_Dan> Xubuntu. FTW!
[01:09] <Bolvaron> http://termbin.com/lomu
[01:09] <promet> I didn't really get into "the guts" of it, but the base desktop responsiveness was noticably faster.
[01:10] <EriC^^> anybody have any experience with smartctl ?
[01:10] <Dr_Dan> Ive used both, and xubuntu 14 was faster too
[01:10] <Bolvaron> afk for a moment
[01:10] <Dr_Dan> I also tried Mint.  big mistake.  It ran slow on netbook
[01:11] <joao> Hi everyone! I dont have sound on my phones...Im using lubuntu 64 bit.. I also tried pulse audio.. But i still dont have sound when i plug my phones...
[01:11] <Johnny_Linux> prolly hd bad drivers
[01:11] <Johnny_Linux> had
[01:11] <promet> I've looked around the "small/fast/old-hardware" distros and, while I'm no "pro", I have to say, when in need I think Xubuntu covers the bases most efficiently, plus repos, support, etc.
[01:11] <James46929> I not fond of how xubuntu desktop looks. Lubuntu for me still looks a little like windows. Easier for me.
[01:11] <Dr_Dan> James,  try xubuntu 14.   Is your old netbook 32bit  or  64bit"
[01:12] <James46929> acer 32 bit ....  aspire one d250
[01:12] <joao> Anyone to help me?
[01:12] <promet> James46929, you can, with a little elbow grease, get Xubuntu to look like darn near anything you'd like <*reiterates elbow grease*>
[01:13] <Dr_Dan> Ok.  Almost everytning ypu try will 'feel' slow on a 32bit mavhine
[01:13] <promet> James46929, it's all of the "blue-ness", isn't it...?
[01:13] <James46929> oh... any tutorials on making xubuntu look like windows xp?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> !ask | joao
[01:14] <promet> put in a dark theme, slap docky or something in there, etc...
[01:14] <Dr_Dan> I searched and found 1015px machines for $120 on ebay.  With 250 or 320GB and   2GB Ram.
[01:14] <promet> That may also raise your overhead a little though...
[01:15] <James46929> Got lubuntu pretty fast at present.
[01:15] <Bolvaron> 15.04 or 14.04? which kubuntu should i use?
[01:16] <joao> Ok can you help me? I followed everything i could find in the net... And nothing... I still have no sound!
[01:16] <Johnny_Linux> id go for lts
[01:16] <Bolvaron> at least i want to use KDE, dont like the ubuntu desktop
[01:16] <Dr_Dan> i put xubuntu on them cause they are 64bit and come with 2GB ram.   I then put in a SSD.  The machine is good to go after that
[01:17] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: :) If ya have to ask, then it is 14.04 .. as it is a Long Term Support release .
[01:17] <Bolvaron> its my first jump on kubuntu, used win for years now
[01:18] <ObrienDave> Bolvaron, welcome to the world of FREE software ;P
[01:19] <Bolvaron> thanks, but as for now ive not installed it, have to see that i get ffxiv backed up, so ill relog to win and do that first
[01:19] <promet> Dr_Dan, that is a good recipe for a pretty blazing xubuntu machine
[01:20] <Dr_Dan> I know right
[01:20] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: Release 15.04 (vivid) is supported for 9 months, EOL (End Of Life) comes real quick .
[01:20] <racar> tomreyn, (or anyone) do you think calling CRDA could impact my WIFI ? http://pastebin.com/HsGdfWgy ... This is the only thing i see in my dmesg. I still have trouble with my wifi. (stop working after 10 min and i need to toogle the wifi everytime to get it back)
[01:20] <Bolvaron> whats the next lts-eta? or at least which will be the next LTS_
[01:20] <Bolvaron> ?
[01:20] <EriC^^> Bolvaron: 16.04
[01:20] <promet> I wonder, and I don't want to complicate things, but if you ran a xubuntu base with awesome-wm, or fluxbox as the window manager, if you could squeeze a little more performance out; admittedly not for everyone...
[01:21] <James46929> what about openbox?
[01:21] <promet> James46929, openbox sounds very good, but I haven
[01:21] <Bolvaron> if i install 14.04 kubuntu, will it upgrade to the newest KDE?
[01:21] <bazhang> Bolvaron, 16.04 is the next lts
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Bolvaron: That be 16.04 ^^ /// the 16th year and the 4th month . New LTS release in 2 year intervals .
[01:21] <promet> ...'t had any experience with it
[01:21] <James46929> as a Windows manager?
[01:22] <bazhang> Bolvaron, there should be a link for that in the title of #kubuntu
[01:22] <Dr_Dan> James,  give xubuntu a try,   but beware that a 32bit machine these days is going to seem slow no matter what you try.   Of course theres puppy linux
[01:22] <jak2000> DATE=$(date +%F--%T)
[01:22] <jak2000> echo %DATE%
[01:22] <jak2000> why not displaythe date?
[01:22] <promet> I was looking for solutions, and it seemed a little "off the beaten path", i.e. learning curve. I am very curious though
[01:22] <Bolvaron> OK, ill be back later, have to backup my important thing first
[01:22] <Bolvaron> thanks for all your help
[01:22] <EriC^^> jak2000: echo $DATE
[01:23] <promet> bazhang, what about 15.04?
[01:23] <promet> is that not lts?
[01:23] <bazhang> promet, every two years so no
[01:24] <James46929> if one does go to openbox... how much trouble to purge the other desktop (xfce or lxde)?
[01:24] <bazhang> James46929, just switch in the login window
[01:24] <xangua> James46929: openbox is not a desktop
[01:25] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop package James46929
[01:25] <jak2000> EriC^^: http://pastie.org/10239467
[01:25] <jak2000> its ok?
[01:26] <Dr_Dan> Theres xfce and lxde.   Those are the easiest to switch between.  Inmhp
[01:26] <Dr_Dan> Imho
[01:26] <James46929> what about the lxdt desktop?
[01:26] <James46929> lxqt
[01:27] <EriC^^> jak2000: i don't know about the mysql command, but with the cp command use "$DATE" in case it has spaces
[01:27] <Dr_Dan> James,  yes.  We discussed our findings.  Xfce = xubuntu,  lxde = lubuntu.  Xubuntu seems faster on a netbook
[01:29] <gp5st> "nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33" seems to accompany network hicups or just "disconnects" where network manager doesn't report being disconnected but I can't get to anything. Any thoughts?
[01:31] <James46929> https://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Lubuntu_vs_Xubuntu.  ...is what I found so far.
[01:31] <joao> No one to help me???
[01:33] <adante> if i do btrfs device add -- how is it adding the device? like what span mode?
[01:34] <jak2000> how to get a date similar to 20150613 i cant: DATE=$(date +%F).sql
[01:34] <gp5st> jak2000: I don't understand what you're asking
[01:35] <gp5st> why can't you use date
[01:35] <Dr_Dan> gp5st: is the signal strong or weak?  Maybe the signal is dropping out?
[01:35] <gp5st> Dr_Dan: no, it's a decent signal and my wifi and the roku have no problems
[01:35] <EriC^^> jak2000: date +%Y%m%d
[01:35] <gp5st> (both in the same room as me)
[01:36] <jak2000> gp5st i want get in a variable the date with format: YYYYMMDD how to?
[01:36] <gp5st> jak2000: you're not being clear. do you not know the right format to give date or is date not working
[01:36] <Dr_Dan> WPA,WPA2, or WEP?
[01:37] <James46929> Getting late. nite all thanks for info.
[01:37] <gp5st> Dr_Dan: WPA2
[01:37] <jak2000> i not know the format
[01:37] <gp5st> jak2000: man date
[01:37] <EriC^^> jak2000: date +%Y%m%d
[01:38] <Dr_Dan> Can you try WEP for a while and if problem goes away,  it was a wpa_supplicant bug
[01:38] <jak2000> DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d).sql
[01:39] <jak2000> done
[01:39] <EriC^^> jak2000: you have your password in that script, you should probably change it i guess
[01:39] <gp5st> EriC^^: jak2000 really just needs to learn how to read the man pages
[01:40] <gp5st> Dr_Dan: I could, but that's a lot of devices to change passwords on :-\
[01:49] <Dr_Dan> gp5st: does the wifi router have debug logs?
[01:49] <gp5st> not that i know of
[01:50] <Dr_Dan> Hmm
[02:05] <gp5st> no other devices have this issue
[02:05] <gp5st> also, I'm no fan of network manager. it provides no feedback to these issues, so i'll go for a while waiting to see if it'll say not connected while I can't ping or do dns look ups and nothing changes in it
[02:07] <SH4071N> Question, I have a Dell D620 laptop and I noticed that after a few days I have to restart because the wired internet connction drops
[02:08] <gp5st> SH4071N: /var/log/syslog have any information on those issues?
[02:08] <SH4071N> checking
[02:09] <SH4071N> $tate change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
[02:11] <SH4071N> I think network manager is just buggy
[02:11] <SH4071N> I show alot of network manager entries in system log about dropping connections
[02:14] <locksmith2> whats good america?
[02:15] <SH4071N> depends on what your trying to achieve
[02:15] <Dr_Dan> Everything
[02:16] <SH4071N> Lagunitas IPA is whats good right now
[02:16] <Dr_Dan> gp5st: can launch wpa_supplicant with -d option or try -dd
[02:17] <Dr_Dan> That increases debug output
[02:17] <Dr_Dan> You will need to kill the current one
[02:19] <SH4071N> that could be it, meybe i should change wpa settings on router
[02:19] <Dr_Dan> Ok,  din is on the table.  Got to run.  Laterz
[02:20] <hpekdemir> hi
[02:20] <hpekdemir> is it possible to name a bridge different than brX?
[02:21] <hpekdemir> in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:22] <stack> can anyone help me with an issue im having
[02:23] <K4rinnaa> hi
[02:23] <Nytram> lo
[02:24] <hpekdemir> any hints?
[02:26] <hpekdemir> is it possible to name a bridge different than brX? in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:34] <cheetahw26> where can I download flash for armhf ?
[02:35] <cheetahw26> I tried adding the canonical repository, but don't see anything there for flash...
[02:35] <Bashing-om> hpeHint: https://www.linux-tips.org/article/73/persistent-device-naming-with-udev ; As per : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225026&page=2 . Maybe ??
[02:37] <Guest94727> my fresh ubuntu just installed on macbook pro doesn't spot any wifi connection around , even if there are so many ! any help for fix this ?
[02:42] <f343nce> Guest94727: Take a look here, naming that network  hardware is imparitive, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[02:51] <xentity1x> can anyone help me figure out why my bluetooth adapter doesnt work on my thinkpad w530
[02:51] <Guest94727> f343nce: it seems disconnected , how can I turn it active ?
[02:53] <f343nce> Guest94727: It may need a driver, I think thise have broadcoms, can you confirm the card.
[02:54] <xentity1x> can anyone help me figure out why my bluetooth adapter doesnt work on my thinkpad w530
[02:54] <Guest94727> f343nce: yes, that is right , I ve already installed the driver
[02:55] <f343nce> Guest94727: Cool, not an area I really know, however you need to follow the ubuntu wiki on this.
[02:56] <f343nce> !broadcom
[03:00] <sapran> Hi !
[03:01] <guest1> who can help me install wubi?
[03:01] <EriC^^> guest1: wubi isn't recommended at all
[03:01] <EriC^^> !wubi
[03:03] <reisio> hi sap
[03:06] <guest1> !install
[03:07] <guest1> is there a way to have dual operating system inside windows?
[03:07] <EriC^^> !vm
[03:08] <sapran> Where are you from Rei?
[03:08] <EriC^^> guest1: there's virtualbox and vmware
[03:08] <guest1> !qemu
[03:08] <EriC^^> !virtualbox
[03:09] <EriC^^> !vmware
[03:09] <guest1> !wine
[03:11] <EriC^^> !virtualizers
[03:12] <Lonel> Is there a good resource to learn the in and outs of linux?
[03:13] <Lonel> have been using windows up until now...
[03:13] <reisio> Lonel: ##linux
[03:13] <EriC^^> !manual | Lonel
[03:14] <Lonel> Thanks!
[03:14] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ http://ubuntuguide.org/ and tons of sites more, depends on the subject
[03:14] <guest1> anyone seen cyberjunkie/incognito?
[03:15] <reisio> too bad we lost seenserv
[03:15] <OerHeks> never heard of those
[03:24] <supercom32> Is ubuntu gnome essentially the same as going "apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment" or whatnot?
[03:24] <supercom32> Or do they actually do more customizations than that?
[03:25] <reisio> ubuntu gnome?
[03:25] <supercom32> Should I install Ubuntu Gnome if I want gnome-shell, or should I just install regular Ubuntu and install it on top? Perhaps regular Ubuntu is better supported or something?
[03:25] <supercom32> reisio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
[03:26]  * reisio headdesks
[03:26] <reisio> erm, well
[03:26] <reisio> if you want plain GNOME 3, and you haven't installed already, yes, install that
[03:26] <OerHeks> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[03:26] <reisio> if you've already installed normal Ubuntu, don't waste time reinstalling, you can install ordinary GNOME from there
[03:26] <reisio> OerHeks: very useful...
[03:27] <syadnom> yeah, install from ISO or apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[03:27] <OerHeks> gnome-desktop-environment is replaced by gnome, i read
[03:28] <OerHeks> that is with extras
[03:29] <supercom32> Ok, so UbuntuGnome offers noting that the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package wouldn't give you?
[03:29] <supercom32> noting = nothing.
[03:29] <reisio> supercom32: no particular Ubuntu distro offers anything more than any other
[03:29] <reisio> and, for that matter, essentially no GNU/Linux distro at all offers anything more than any other
[03:29] <supercom32> reisio: Bugs perhaps? lol
[03:29] <reisio> purely theoretically
[03:30] <syadnom> supercom32, it's the same
[03:30] <moondog> reisio: nice to hear someone admit that
[03:30] <supercom32> reisio: I was hoping UbuntuGnome would just save me from having to un-integrate unity and junk.
[03:30] <reisio> supercom32: it would, but it won't save you time if you've already installed the Unity version
[03:30] <f343nce> supercom32: do a net install and do what you want.
[03:31] <moondog> I'd go so far as to say... not that much difference between distros in general. funny how some tout the inclusion of this app or that app. really?
[03:31] <reisio> well there are differences, but not really on a 3rd party software level
[03:31] <reisio> (for example with GNOME)
[03:31] <reisio> you can get GNOME on any
[03:33] <darthanubis> but access to the latest gnome will vary with distro
[03:33] <reisio> nope
[03:33] <reisio> ease of access might, though
[03:33] <syadnom> supercom32, the only thing you will notice is more apps installed, and more options in the session manager
[03:33] <darthanubis> oh, gnome 3.16 is in Debian?
[03:34] <reisio> darthanubis: probably
[03:34] <darthanubis> it's not
[03:34] <reisio> darthanubis: yes it is
[03:35] <darthanubis> https://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.16-status.html
[03:35] <reisio> what's 0d.be?
[03:36] <darthanubis> point being there is a difference in distro if the user is looking for something specific like the latest gnome
[03:36] <reisio> darthanubis: try https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=gnome
[03:36] <supercom32> syadnom: Oh, so regular Ubuntu offers more apps?
[03:36] <reisio> point being you're wrong
[03:36] <reisio> most people are, don't sweat it
[03:36] <darthanubis> sure :)
[03:36] <syadnom> supercom32, no, all ubuntu offers the same apps.
[03:37] <syadnom> roughly...I suppose there are custom ones with default repos for things not in the regular repos
[03:37] <supercom32> syadnom: You said more options in the session manager?
[03:37] <syadnom> supercom32, yeah, options for your new gnome shell and for unity.
[03:37] <reisio> but even if gnome 3.16 weren't in Debian's repos, you could go to gnome.org, get it, and install it
[03:37] <reisio> would only be a matter of _easte_ of access :)
[03:37] <darthanubis> lol
[03:38] <syadnom> gnome 3.16 is still marked experimental in pre-packaged form
[03:38] <reisio> yeah?
[03:38] <reisio> what else can you tell us that's written clearly on pages already linked?
[03:39] <darthanubis> 61% ready in Debian, but one could install straight from Gnome Staging PPA in any ubuntu-ish flavor, like I'm running now
[03:39] <reisio> I got one for you
[03:39] <reisio> Exact hits
[03:39] <reisio> that's written, too
[03:39] <reisio> fun game, this
[03:39] <darthanubis> Try that in Debian, and you will likely break your system
[03:39] <reisio> darthanubis: probably not any more likely than on Ubuntu
[03:39] <darthanubis> In ubuntu you can revert with just an apt-purge
[03:39] <darthanubis> sorry
[03:39] <darthanubis> ppa-purge
[03:40] <darthanubis> you have to love that
[03:40] <reisio> what package is ppa-purge part of?
[03:40] <reisio> itself?
[03:40] <reisio> you can install that on Debian, too
[03:40] <reisio> y'know why? Ubuntu is Debian
[03:42] <syadnom> reisio, you're basically taking the slackware approach to ubuntu/debian the way you are talking.  gnome 3.16 is NOT in debian, you can't will it into the repos.  installable and 'in' a distro are not the same thing
[03:42] <darthanubis> syadnom, ty
[03:43] <syadnom> and ubuntu is not debian, a blanket statement that ubuntu is Debian is useless as MANY packages in ubuntu land will not 'install' on debian, meaning that dpkg -i package.deb doesn't work
[03:43] <reisio> man you have problems
[03:43] <reisio> it's in Debian repos
[03:43] <syadnom> it's not
[03:43] <reisio> it really is
[03:43] <reisio> y'know how I know? I looked
[03:43] <reisio> try it :p
[03:43] <syadnom> it's in experimental
[03:43] <reisio> what is?
[03:43] <reisio> the gnome 3.16 that's in debian repos?
[03:44] <reisio> answer carefully now :p
[03:44] <supercom32> lol
[03:44] <reisio> just because ubuntu has no experimental branch and debian has doesn't mean debian hasn't the package
[03:44] <reisio> it just means debian can be more stable :p
[03:44] <syadnom> gnome-shell is in debian experimental, not debian proper that sane people install
[03:44]  * reisio yawns
[03:45]  * reisio is more infallible than usual tonight
[03:45] <syadnom> i means nothing of the sort, it means debian doesn't have a maintainer for up-to-date gnome and ubuntu does
[03:45] <reisio> syadnom: shhhh, quiet now
[03:45] <supercom32> Personally I would say debian proper is the one you want to use. Experimental shouldn't exactly count. But meh
[03:45] <syadnom> you are wrong more than you are right
[03:46] <reisio> supercom32: even though Ubuntu is sourced from unstable Debian? Come now
[03:46] <reisio> syadnom: I just read 'syadnom' now and then not the rest of the line :)
[03:46] <reisio> little smile creeps across my face, though
[03:47] <syadnom> arrogant without cause, and falls back to semantics to dodge being wrong.
[03:47] <reisio> heh, that was a good one, 'cause I read your nick and 'arrogant', then stopped :p
[03:48] <kabaresi> te
[03:48] <syadnom> ...and proving my point...
[03:48] <kabaresi> szhelo
[03:48] <kabaresi> ubnut
[03:48] <reisio> kabaresi: heyo
[03:48] <reisio> heyo kabra
[03:49] <guest1> virtual box is to install a server?
[03:50] <reisio> guest1: not specifically, no
[03:50] <reisio> it's to emulate hardware for rare situations
[03:50] <reisio> (or simple tourism)
[03:52] <Guest87948> hi
[03:53] <reisio> hi guest
[03:53] <reisio> /nick awesomedude
[03:54] <guest1> talking to me
[03:54] <guest1> ?
[03:54] <guest1> i have the virtualbox
[03:54] <reisio> guest1: I was earlier
[03:54] <xyzzy81> mmmm virtualbox
[03:55] <guest1> oracle virtualbox
[03:55] <reisio> mmmm, virtualbox, what fine awful XML files and juvenile software you have
[03:55] <reisio> guest1: yes, what about it?
[03:55] <guest1> can i install ubuntu and use virtualbox inside windows
[03:55] <xyzzy81> sure thing
[03:55] <reisio> guest1: what xyzzy81 said
[03:55] <xyzzy81> it's quite straight forward. So long as you mount the iso and follow the gui installer
[03:55] <Starhero> Mic check 1 2
[03:55] <xyzzy81> and set the network to NAT
[03:55] <reisio> xyzzy81: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0429277/
[03:55] <reisio> Starhero: fail
[03:56] <reisio> nat is default
[03:56] <xyzzy81> ahh well there ya go then :)
[03:56] <guest1> tutorial please
[03:56] <guest1> thank you
[03:56] <reisio> guest1: you want to install Ubuntu within VirtualBox as running on Windows?
[03:56] <xyzzy81> Zyzzyx Rd! What is this magic?
[03:56] <guest1> reisio yes!
[03:56] <Starhero> shit, gotta stop trying to crtl-a all my text and backspace...not gonna work in bybu
[03:57] <reisio> guest1: download Ubuntu install image, create vm for ubuntu, set the install image as mounted cd, start vm, install as normal
[03:57] <xyzzy81> First link in search guest1. http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Ubuntu-on-VirtualBox
[03:57] <dora> I'm trying to back up my Kubuntu installation with Clonezilla, using a Seagate USB expansion disk, and Clonezilla won't see the USB drive.  System sees it when booted.  Have NTFS partition w image of Windows 7 system, and a Fat 32 partition.
[03:57] <guest1> reisio, i dont have cd-rom
[03:57] <xyzzy81> you don't need a cd rom
[03:57] <reisio> dora: might be ignoring it because fat can't store more than 4GB or so
[03:58] <dora> What do I format it as?
[03:58] <xyzzy81> you just need the iso file. Check that link I just posted. It'll explain everything
[03:58] <reisio> dora: something else; but I wouldn't bother
[03:58] <reisio> dora: backing up your /home/ is enough
[03:58] <dora> Originally I had formatted it on Windows 7 computer as xfat and it didn't see that
[03:58] <reisio> all the rest of the system is mirrored the world over
[03:58] <reisio> !clone @ dora
[03:58] <reisio> !clone
[03:58] <reisio> ubottu: not much chance of that
[03:58] <dora> No, I have actual software I don't want to spend a week to reinstall tomorrow when the system breaks again.
[03:59] <xyzzy81> lol
[03:59] <reisio> like I said
[03:59] <reisio> dora: see bot's msg
[03:59] <dora> what do you mean see bot's msg?
[03:59] <reisio> there's a msg above, from a bot
[03:59] <reisio> see it
[03:59] <Starhero> Might someone be able to tell me how I am suppose to do this "Ensure that ping $(hostname -f) shows the real IP address, not 127.0.1.1. Change or remove this entry from /etc/hosts if present." It does what it shouldn't but the orgin of where that sentence comes from does not state exactly what to write/take out of said hostfile
[03:59] <dora> Did you mean literally format it as "something else"?  Then what?
[04:00] <dora> Where?  I don't see a message from a bot.
[04:00] <reisio> dora: could try NTFS
[04:00] <reisio> ubottu is a bot
[04:00] <reisio> a dumb one
[04:00] <dora> OK.  But it doesn't see the NTFS partition either.
[04:00] <reisio> but still a bot
[04:00] <Starhero> if it means , verbaitum that peice of ...code..for lack of a better discription
[04:00] <reisio> dora: how big is the NTFS partition?
[04:01] <reisio> it might ignore any partition that cannot possibly hold a copy
[04:01] <reisio> due to size or filesystem limitations
[04:01]  * reisio isn't familiar with clonezilla nonsense
[04:01] <xyzzy81> Starhero: Have you tried #networking?
[04:01] <dora> NTFS partition is about 300 gigs.  Fat32 partition is about 210 gigs.
[04:01] <adante> how do i start and stop the samba service nowadays? is it sstill service samba stop/start? or have we moved to another framework?
[04:02] <dora> I have used Clonezilla to back up Ubuntu installations before - it IS possible.
[04:02] <adante> when i run 'service samba stop' and then 'service samba status' it says "smbd is running"
[04:02] <adante> (i was hoping to stop it)
[04:02] <Starhero> xyzzy81: No I haven't but I will join them.
[04:02] <dora> I thought then too I used my Windows 7 computer to format it as Xfat.
[04:02] <reisio> dora: if I were you, I'd backup /home/, with rsync, and backup a list of your installed packages, with what ubottu says in response to '!clone'
[04:02] <dora> Samba - I dimly remember something about smb.
[04:02] <xyzzy81> Starhero: Good luck. I'm reasonably new to networking myself so hopefully you find the answer you're looking for.
[04:03] <xyzzy81> Still start, stop, restart as far as I'm aware adante
[04:03] <dora> OK, no.  Want to back up whole thing.  AND, it isn't seeing ANYTHING< not even a 4 gig partition, so not able to back up anything.
[04:03] <xyzzy81> adante: Are you doing it from the working directory?
[04:03] <dora> I'm sorry if you think that any decent moral human being would spend their ENTIRE life continually reinstalling LInux.  I don't think so!
[04:04] <xyzzy81> Reinstalling and installing distros is what life is all about /partialsarcasm
[04:04] <dora> So.  How do I get Clonezilla to see even 4 giggs?  Because so far you haven't actually told me how to get it to see the drive AT ALL.
[04:06] <guest1> what hard drive file type?
[04:06] <guest1> vdi?
[04:07] <reisio> guest1: default is fine
[04:07] <guest1> there is no default
[04:07] <reisio> guest1: if you named the vm something like 'Ubuntu', the icon will change to an almost-copy of Ubuntu's logo
[04:07] <xyzzy81> vdi is fine
[04:07] <guest1> the first one is vdi
[04:07] <reisio> and all the defaults will be fine
[04:07] <reisio> guest1: it's probably selected, that makes it the default
[04:12] <xyzzy81> How'd you go guest1?
[04:12] <guest1> i am reading the instruction on opening file in storage
[04:13] <guest1> i set up vm
[04:13] <xyzzy81> good work
[04:16] <guest1> i am stuck
[04:16] <dora> Trying this one more time.  How do I get Clonezilla to see my usb drive?  It currently has an NTFS partition and a Fat32 partition and doesn't see either of them, and didn't see the partition when it was Xfat either.
[04:16] <xyzzy81> guest1: So long as you mount the ISO, you should be able to just run it and all the defaults should work right off the bat
[04:17] <guest1> i dl the file on foxfire but storage..is looking for hard drive or cd not a file.
[04:17] <reisio> clonezilla the live OS?
[04:17] <reisio> you should probably go to #clonezilla
[04:19] <xyzzy81> guest1: In Settings>Storage, select "empty" under the Storage Tree. Then under attributes to the right of that window, select the CD icon and navigate to where you saved the ISO file. Double click it and voila, it'll mount. Then just run it
[04:19] <Scraak> TF2 has 10-20 fps regardless of graphics settings, ubuntu 14.04 ATI radeon graphics
[04:21] <xyzzy81> guest1: There's also #vbox you can join to ask for help if you're not getting what you need here.
[04:23] <Scraak> TF2 has 10-20 fps regardless of graphics settings, ubuntu 14.04 ATI radeon graphics
[04:24] <xyzzy81> Are you on KDE Scraak ?
[04:24] <Scraak> no
[04:25] <xyzzy81> Sooo are you asking a question or just stating a fact?
[04:25] <Scraak> Sorry. How do I fix the low framrate problem?
[04:25] <guest1> is it amd 64?
[04:25] <dora> I have a problem with a seagate expansion drive.  In Kubuntu, in Disks, it shows as two separate hard drives, 1 T, neither mounted.  Yet I just used Gparted to create and format partitions.  One drive shows the correct partitions and formats, the other shows no media.   What the?????
[04:25] <Scraak> guest1, yes
[04:25] <guest1> it is not working xyzzy81
[04:26] <cyborg__> boa noite a todos
[04:26] <xyzzy81> Maybe start from scratch guest1. Select new, put in Ubuntu, and keep all the defaults it gives you. Then select settings to repeat the above post I gave you.
[04:28] <guest1> error in supr3hardenedwinrespawn
[04:28] <guest1> what does this mean?
[04:28] <xyzzy81> I have no idea. when did you get that error? needs context
[04:30] <xyzzy81> quick google suggests that it might be conflicting with your AV guest1
[04:30] <xyzzy81> guest1: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=62615
[04:31] <guest1> error relaunching virtualbox vm process
[04:31] <guest1> there is a command line
[04:32] <xyzzy81> Yeah, have a look at the link I just posted.
[04:35] <cyborg_> ola
[04:39] <guest1> sounds like i have n older version of oracle
[04:47] <SubCool> ok, heres a new one. ANyone know a file/picutre sorting program i can use that will sort pictures based on their filenames? my pictures are named by the date they were taken. I want to sort them all into folder based on those file names.
[04:47] <SubCool> im tyring to use picasa and shotwell, but the best i can see is the option to sort them by modified date, which can change.
[04:50] <Guest89508> is there anyway to switch off wifi lan from bios or somewhere else ?
[04:51] <syadnom> Guest89508, from somewhere else, yes ....not from bios though
[04:52] <guest1> did it
[04:52] <guest1> must i install ubuntu?
[04:52] <guest1> do you have instructions on how to install ubuntu within the vm
[04:52] <Guest89508> syadnom: can you show me how ?
[04:53] <syadnom> do you have a hardware switch? is it a laptop or desktop?
[04:54] <tanuki> I have a VM running Trusty server, on a host running Trusty server. Can someone tell me why the VM is suddenly running memtest86+?
[04:55] <cfhowlett> tanuki, because you told it to.
[04:55] <tanuki> cfhowlett: I'm pretty sure I didn't.
[04:56] <tanuki> so either I have a poltergeist or there's a bug of some sort.
[04:56] <cfhowlett> tanuki, it doesn't run automatically and must be triggered by user.  you're the user?  ...
[04:56] <tanuki> cfhowlett: Again, I never triggered it.
[04:57] <guest1> i'm in!
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[04:58] <guest1> i think i am in as a guest
[04:58] <guest1> i am in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[04:58] <Guest89508> syadnom:  is a laptop , I don't know about the hardware switch , Im using ubu 14.04 on macbook pro
[04:58]  * tanuki reboots his server (running quasselcore)
[04:58] <guest1> where is he?
[04:58] <syadnom> Guest89508, then you'll have to do it in the network manager app, there is no hardware switch on macbooks
[04:58] <guest1> xyzzy81??????
[05:04] <Guest89508> syadnom:  I see , I was trying to figure out to fix my wifi lan ,that  is switched off in somehow and I can't make it work again... thanks anyway!
[05:04] <xyzzy81> guest1: Good going! :)
[05:14] <guest1> xyzzy81
[05:14] <guest1> xyzzy81 do i install ubuntu inside of vm
[05:14] <guest1> xyzzy81 i think i am guest
[05:21]  * cfhowlett does not appreciate spam, autobot or otherwise.  will NOT do any form of business with fraguk's crappy planet
[05:27] <scatterp> hi can any one help me with sound i have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036508 and reinstall/upgrade now i am running 15.04
[05:30] <linuxuz3r> what is smp boot
[05:30] <linuxuz3r> is smpboot responsible for hyperthreading
[05:34] <guest1> !install
[05:34] <guest1> !updates
[05:34] <guest1> !update
[05:37] <cfhowlett> guest1, privatize your ubottu triggers like this:   /msg ubottu !update
[05:38] <zulus> Всем привет!
[05:39] <B0g4r7> !ru | zulus
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !ru | zulus
[05:40] <guest1> what is the command to get the command prompt?
[05:41] <B0g4r7> guest1: ...either "sh" or "Terminal", depending on what you mean.  ctrl-alt-f1 may work also.
[05:43] <ubuntuuser1> I am looking for a cliboard manager with these bare minimum features:
[05:44] <suryahadi22> oke...
[05:44] <ubuntuuser1> A clipboard that has: COPY-PASTE and SEARCH the HISTORY/entires with a shortcut and shortcut to shuffle through history/entries?
[05:47] <suryahadi22> Gays....
[06:22] <gagalicious> ipconfig no response after 2 secs - giving up.. i'm trying to set up diskless ubuntu 14.04... can anyone help? what does it mean?
[06:31] <gagalicious> how do i slow down my tftp connection so i can see the ip being connected?
[06:34] <gagalicious> ipconfig no response after 2 secs - giving up.. i'm trying to set up diskless pxe boot client with ubuntu 14.04... can anyone help? what does it mean?
[06:39] <pungi-man> I am trying to compile glibc, but when I run make I get an error saying "Makeconfig:42: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?).  Stop."
[06:39] <pungi-man> I replaced all the tabs with spaces and the error still persists
[06:42] <badbodh> pungi-man, #glibc ought to be more helpful
[06:42] <pungi-man> badbodh, okay
[06:45] <mach20x> VLC keeps freezing on me while watching a movie
[06:46] <mach20x> Can't do anything to exit the app, even though the sound is playing
[06:47] <gagalicious> tftp dhcp ip is too fast. i cant catch it as it flashese to the pxeboot menu... how can i get the ip or slow down the tftp screen?
[06:48] <mach20x> The only thing I can do is reboot using the button on the hardware
[06:57] <dora> How can I change a disk label from Seagate Expansion+ to Seagate?
[06:58] <LeMike> i guess it was e2label dora
[06:59] <dora> Thanks - I'll look that up.
[07:01] <dora> I think I need more specific instructions than that.  I put e2label /dev/sdc Seagate and it said it can't find valid filesystem superblock.
[07:03] <Seveas> dora: try the actual filesystem (e.g. sdc1, sdc2 etc.), not the disk.
[07:03] <dora> But changing the partition names didn't change the name of the disk.
[07:03] <dora> Fact that the volume name is illegal in Linux seems to be causing problems.
[07:06] <habbasi> Hello. How do I find EXACTLY how a given package on the Ubuntu repo was built?
[07:06] <Seveas> habbasi: download the source package, check the debian/ folder in that package
[07:06] <habbasi> (Need to modify a package to my own liking)
[07:07] <habbasi> Seveas: Thanks.
[07:08] <Seveas> habbasi: and modifying the package means apt-get build-dep package, apt-get install devscripts pbuilder, make your changes, dch -i, debuild -S, pbuilder init, pbuilder build ../the_new_source_package.dsc
[07:12] <habbasi> Seveas: How do I see what source was compiled?
[07:12] <habbasi> Seveas: Do build the package?
[07:12] <habbasi> s/Do/To
[07:14] <habbasi> habbasi: The *.tar.xz includes files, but not source.
[07:22] <n00b> hi
[07:23] <Seveas> habbasi: sure it includes source. 'apt-get source package' downloads the package's .dsc file and uses it to find and download the source. Generally there's an orig.tar.gz (or bz2, or xz) and a debian.tar.gz or debian.diff.gz
[07:23] <habbasi> Seveas: Thanks. :D
[07:24] <inerkick> hi.. I am trying to configure Aptana IDE with Bitnami Django. But unable to do it, this is the issue so far. Can anyone help me with the packages which require to set this right https://community.bitnami.com/t/configure-bitnami-in-aptana/29174
[07:25] <e^0> how to find the list of installed packages ?
[07:25] <e^0> from command line
[07:26] <Seveas> inerkick: ask aptana support. Looks like you're using a version of aptana meant for a different distro, or for a different version of Ubuntu.
[07:26] <Seveas> e^0: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[07:26] <navid_> HI
[07:26] <navid_> yo
[07:26] <navid_> what
[07:27] <Seveas> well, that was enlightening :)
[07:28] <inerkick> no
[07:28] <inerkick> it's for linux deb file only Seveas
[07:28] <e^0> Seveas: thanks
[07:29] <inerkick> Seveas, Aptana_Studio_3_Setup_Linux_x86_3.6.1.zip is the one i'm using
[07:29] <Seveas> inerkick: as I said, ask aptana support. It's not something we support.
[07:30] <inerkick> ok Seveas
[07:39] <__john_doe__> hey guys, I have problems with vmware player... when I start virtual machine, it just crashes
[07:40] <__john_doe__> worked well a few days ago and I didn't restart computer or changed anything on the vm in the mean time
[07:42] <badbodh> __john_doe__, first of all remove those underscores from your bloody nick
[07:43] <badbodh> very difficult to highlight your nick
[07:43] <badbodh> if vmware crashes , there's got to be some 'change' on your system
[07:44] <__john_doe__> apt-get update apt-get upgrade
[07:44] <badbodh> some setting, install/update/remove anything
[07:44] <__john_doe__> that's the only change
[07:44] <badbodh> check your apt log and see what changes were made, check if vmware depends on any of them
[07:45] <badbodh> depends ~> dependency
[07:45] <__john_doe__> can I somehow check if there's any runtime error when I start vm? I tried dmesg but I didn't find anything
[07:46] <__john_doe__> and I get this if I run it from terminal
[07:46] <__john_doe__> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/vmware/hostd/proxy.xml"
[07:46] <badbodh> start it from terminal then
[07:46] <__john_doe__> and when I press play on specific vm, it just crashes
[07:46] <__john_doe__> no errors diplayed in terminal
[07:48] <jrc> 1
[07:50] <jrc> 1
[07:52] <badbodh> __john_doe__, vmware channel could be of more help. if they say it is distro specific problem, come back
[07:52] <badbodh> #vmware i think
[07:52] <__john_doe__> okay
[07:54] <austin4312> Hi! I would appreciate if you guys could help me out. Here is the problem I'm facing:
[07:54] <austin4312> So I am trying to get the Vino VNC Server to startup on boot, meaning I don't have to login to have the VNC Server start. I am on Ubuntu GNOME 15.04, and I have already added "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to 'Startup Applications'.
[07:54] <austin4312> However, the VNC Server still won't start as soon as I boot up. I have to login in order for the VNC Server to start. What should I do?
[07:58] <badbodh> austin4312, 'startup applications' only run after login. what you need is some init script (or systemd?!) thingy to run at boot
[07:58] <badbodh> which ubuntu are you using ?
[07:58] <austin4312> badbodh Ubuntu GNOME 15.04
[07:59] <austin4312> badbodh How should I go about configuring a script for systemd?
[07:59] <badbodh> beyond my level of comprehension austin4312 , you need an expert :D
[07:59] <austin4312> haha alright.
[07:59] <austin4312> Anybody able to help me out?
[08:00] <badbodh> or perhaps web search about systemd/boot/run-level thingies
[08:02] <austin4312> badbodh I've tried, but those that are for Vino specifically are very rare, and I have no idea how to modify those created for other VNCs.
[08:07] <gablu> hi any1 there?
[08:07] <gablu> i just wanted a simple help
[08:08] <jrc> 1
[08:08] <gablu> how to start a shell script at boot in linux without using the DM tools
[08:10] <EriC^^> a shell script after you login?
[08:11] <gablu> yup
[08:12] <ikonia> last jParkton
[08:12] <ikonia> oops
[08:12] <gablu> eric
[08:12] <gablu> i wanted to start conky after boot (7 secs after Desktop loads) .. so i made a shell script
[08:12] <gablu> and placed it in /etc/init.d/
[08:13] <gablu> then i made a symlink ln -s /etc/init.d/script.sh /etc/rc.d/
[08:14] <gablu> any1 there?
[08:14] <linuxuz3r> http://www.twitch.tv/ps4playin
[08:17] <jrc> 3
[08:38] <EriC^^> gablu: still there?
[08:41] <teikon> My cursor is gigantic - system does not seem to respond to change in settings (14.04) - anyone know whats wrong?
[08:42] <teikon> cursor = mouse cursor
[08:44] <yacc> Any idea how to get an updated Intel video driver on 14.04?
[08:45] <teikon> yacc -> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[08:47] <scatterp> hi can any one help me with sound i have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036508 and reinstall/upgrade now i am running 15.04
[08:48] <teikon> 4K screen seems to corrupt my mouse cursor (way too large) . Cannot find any config that the UI responds too.
[08:51] <guser1> Hi, where can I find a list of updates that are soon published / need to be reviewed in Offical ubuntu repos?   I am waiting especially for Thunderbird 38
[08:52] <walter> giorno
[08:54] <MACscr> what should i do if my menu.lst file isnt being updated with the newest kernel that apt-get is downloading? update-grub doesnt seem to phase it either
[08:55] <MACscr> im running 14.04
[08:57] <lewis1711> https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ - trying to download flash from here. I get an error message about "vivid-partners" not being known. and no, flashplugin-installer doesn't work (it errors out when failing to fetch an archive)
[08:57] <lewis1711> is there anywhere else I can get the raw .deb and do it myself?
[08:58] <guser1> lewis1711:Open Ubuntu Software Center and enbale partner repos ;)
[08:58] <guser1> lewis1711: At the software sources menu
[09:00] <lewis1711> guser1, thanks. there's nothing like that in my software center but Ishould be able to add it manually
[09:01] <guser1> lewis1711: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14629/how-do-i-enable-the-partner-repository
[09:02] <MACscr> lol, guess my grub is still 0.97
[09:02] <MACscr> that seems a bit odd
[09:02] <guser1> lewis1711: just use vivid not maverick
[09:02] <lewis1711> guser1, yeah I meant to say that "partner repositories" isn't there, but I get the gist, find the text that activates it then do it manually
[09:03] <OerHeks> MACscr, if that is so, you have upgraded since 2012 .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading
[09:05] <MACscr> perfect. thanks!
[09:10] <lewis1711> getting the exact same popup. added the vivid partners to my sources.lst
[09:12] <lewis1711> did apt-get update, it added a bunch of stufff
[09:13] <lewis1711> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/996cbc84312e09b498c9 that's the output of download flashplugin-installer
[09:18] <OerHeks> that plugin was for precise. and is deleted. so you didn't update ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/
[09:19] <lewis1711> OerHeks, weird. I did apt-get update
[09:21] <lewis1711> OerHeks, oh, I see what you were saying. the package name has changed
[09:22] <OerHeks> lewis1711, that too, for all multimedia plugins, just install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package, flash, fonts, codecs and such
[09:25] <moses> I cant get my nvidia drivers to save the config i edit
[09:26] <OerHeks> moses, sure, go into nvidia settings, it has a button to produce an xorg.conf and option to save it.
[09:27] <OerHeks> 2nd line xserver display configuration, 'save to x configuration file'
[09:46] <ehem> hey budies
[09:46] <ehem> can you hear me?
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> ehem, how can we help you?
[09:47] <wisdomia> Sup dudes, are there any math guys in here than can help me with a really annoying algorithm I am trying to come up with?
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> wisdomia, try the ##programming guys
[09:48] <wisdomia> thanks will do
[09:49] <Guest77212> I'm looked at my drive in a liveCD and some files were had different owner (user:1000) why?
[09:51] <OerHeks> user1000 is the user account number of the live session, perfectly normal.
[09:54] <Guest77212> How can I see that loggin into the harddrive install os. Which will be seen as 1000 in a liveCD. Because those files were locked.
[09:54] <OerHeks> Guest77212, what are you trying to do?
[09:56] <Guest77212> I want to restore file permission for files when I in the liveCD. Default user 1000 but it shows up as per in my install.
[09:56] <Guest77212> Some files are locke
[09:56] <Guest77212> Some files are locked
[09:57] <OerHeks> Yes, 1st user on an installed ubuntu has usernumber 1000 too.
[09:57] <OerHeks> files are locked ... should be read only indeed on a live iso
[09:57] <OerHeks> i cannot help you there with filepermissions restoring
[09:58] <Guest77212> Some files on my harddrive install are locked, under home. Just some ordinary files.
[09:59] <teikon> anyone running ubuntu on a 4k monitor also has the problem of huge cursor size?
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> Guest77212: what are you trying to do with those files?
[10:00] <Guest77212> Just, copy them, go into folder etc
[10:01] <Guest77212> I will try to reset the files. Bye
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> teikon: is the resolution normal?
[10:02] <Guest15964> Hello all. I have a bluetooth adapter that I am trying to  connect to my ubuntu laptop. Pairing is successful, but after pairing the device appears in sound settings and disappears immediately.
[10:02] <BobbySteed> This appears to be a bug in 15.04. First time I installed Ubuntu Studio 15.04 I was able to mount my NTFS partitions, but subsequently I get "No object for D-Bus interface" when I try to mount them.
[10:03] <teikon> lotuspsychje everything not cursor related is normal.
[10:03] <Daghdha> Correct me if i am wrong but: Wasn't it possible to press a button on the 'Software Updater' dialog to update what updates need to be installed? I realy miss that because now i have to close it and restart it. Then i have the updated updates.
[10:03] <Daghdha> I am pretty sure that was in the old one
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> teikon: thats weird indeed, wich graphics driver loaded?
[10:05] <teikon> lotuspsychje running 2560x1440. The cursor graphics gets fuzzy when resizing. Driver is  driver=i915 latency=0
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> teikon: maybe this can help? http://superuser.com/questions/768830/mouse-cursor-scaling-issues-in-xubuntu-14-04-with-xfce-4-10
[10:06] <fredrik> Hi, I've just installed a custom Ubuntu version in Virtualbox on a MacBook and I want to remap my left alt key. I want it to work exactly as the right alt key currently work
[10:06] <Guest15964> Hello all. I have a bluetooth adapter that I am trying to  connect to my ubuntu laptop. Pairing is successful, but after pairing the device appears in sound settings and disappears immediately. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[10:07] <fredrik> I've been trying to do this in xmodmap and I know that the left alt key has keycode 64 (and the right alt key 128). If I can figure out what the right alt key does in xmodmap's language, I can solve my problem. I need to run 'xmodemap -e "keycode 64 = <insert whatever keycode 128 is currently doing>"'
[10:07] <fredrik> I haven't been able to figure out that though -- anyone know?
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> teikon: or this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/227292/huge-mouse-cursor-arrow-after-installing-nvidia-drivers
[10:07] <teikon> lotuspsychje thanks already tried that.
[10:08] <EriC^^> fredrik: you just say keycode 64 = name you get from right alt
[10:08] <OerHeks> teikon, logout/login after that tweak AFAIK
[10:08] <EriC^^> fredrik: type xev, then press right alt and see the name
[10:08] <teikon> lotuspsychje, im not using nvidia driver
[10:09] <BobbySteed> Bug in 15.04? First time I installed Ubuntu Studio 15.04 I was able to mount NTFS partitions, but now I get "No object for D-Bus interface" when I try to mount them.
[10:09] <EriC^^> fredrik: mine is Alt_R
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> teikon: try dconf-editor org.gnome.desktop.interface and maybe you can set cursor size
[10:09] <teikon> OerHeks, thanks tried it. No effect.
[10:09] <OerHeks> BobbySteed, check the health of that NTFS partition, or filecheck ( prefferably from windows)
[10:10] <robbix> Anybody know and prefer a dropbox alternative for linux?
[10:10] <teikon> lotuspsychje, already tried it. The cursor size is only set within program windows. The huge size is still there in nautilus, desktop and some other native apps.
[10:10] <BobbySteed> OerHeks, will do. I notice that 2 NTFS partitions will mount, 2 other ones won't.
[10:11] <ehem> how can i move navigate between workspaces directly?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> teikon: not sure then sorry
[10:11] <ehem> i want to bind a shortcut "Alt+3" to move to workspace3 for example
[10:12] <EriC^^> ehem: wmctl
[10:12] <EriC^^> !info wmctl
[10:12] <ehem> !findo wmctl
[10:12] <ehem> !info wmctl
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> or ccsm?
[10:13] <EriC^^> !find wmctl
[10:13] <EriC^^> could have sworn it was called that
[10:13] <fredrik> EriC^^: I did something stupid and now both my alt keys are useless. Must have done the opposite of what I intented to do. xev filled my terminal with lots of stuff so now I can't scroll back and see what the results were earlier when I used xev -- can I revert the changes somewhow?
[10:13] <EriC^^> !info wmctl trusty
[10:13] <Gregor3000> hello i need help with SSH i keep getitng the passphrase question: Authenticating with public key "imported-openssh-key" ; Passphrase for key "imported-openssh-key":
[10:13] <Gregor3000> once i enter it it authenticates but when i exit and try to login again it asks for password again.
[10:13] <Gregor3000> i am using putty and i imported the linux key hence the comment -  "imported-openssh-key"
[10:14] <ehem> nvm im dumb haha
[10:15] <EriC^^> ehem: did you find it?
[10:15] <EriC^^> i think it's wmctrl
[10:15] <EriC^^> with an r
[10:15] <ehem> yeah it worked! thanks
[10:17] <EriC^^> fredrik: try setxkbmap -layout us
[10:18] <fredrik> EriC^^: I don't have a us layout and previously followed other changes. Must I redo those changes? *sigh*
[10:18] <EriC^^> fredrik: xmodmap isn't permanent
[10:18] <fredrik> s/changes/steps
[10:18] <EriC^^> if you log out and back in i think the changes will disappear
[10:18] <fredrik> EriC^^: so a reboot should work?
[10:18] <fredrik> let me try
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> teikon: you could test 4k screen on another grafix card perhaps?
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> teikon: maybe its our intel card acting like this?
[10:22] <teikon> lotuspsychje, tested it on a radeon 7000M but it was not capable of achieving a high enough resolution.
[10:23] <teikon> lotuspsychje, im pretty sure its an ubuntu issue. Probably som old backend shizzle.
[10:23] <fredrik> EriC^^: It's back to working. Will you please have a look at the different xev outputs to help with the command? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713229/
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> teikon: maybe ubuntu grabs a bigger cursor when res goes over a higher value?
[10:24] <EriC^^> fredrik: xmodmap -e "keycode 64 = ISO_Level3_Shift"
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> anyway bbl
[10:26] <fredrik> EriC^^: I believe this is the same command I typed earlier. I tried it again now and I'm back to having two ALT keys that doesn't work
[10:27] <EriC^^> fredrik: when you run xev and press alt what does it say?
[10:28] <fredrik> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713252/
[10:29] <fredrik> EriC^^: it now seems to return keycode 64 (rather than 92 as it used to) which is weird, because that is what the left alt key is
[10:29] <EriC^^> fredrik: you want the right alt to do as the left or left to do as the right?
[10:30] <EriC^^> you said the latter
[10:30] <trollstation> Fredrik shut up
[10:30] <fredrik> EriC^^: the left to do as the right
[10:32] <EriC^^> ?fredrik: ok what's xev output for left alt
[10:32] <fredrik> EriC^^: before I run the command, the right alt key works perfectly. After it stops working. I'm positive that the xev outputs corresponds to the correct buttons. Are we not just changing the left alt?
[10:32] <fredrik> EriC^^: coming up
[10:32] <jsnowball> hello! anyone knows a good tool to send/receive & analyse data to TCP sockets. I need something quite verbose
[10:33] <trollstation> Jsnowball shut your mouth
[10:33] <EriC^^> fredrik: yeah that should set Alt_L to what Alt_R is
[10:33] <EriC^^> i just tried switching shift with home
[10:33] <jsnowball> trollstation. ugh.
[10:34] <fredrik> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11713276/
[10:35] <EriC^^> fredrik: it seems ok
[10:35] <OerHeks> !coc | trollstation, behave yourself
[10:36] <EriC^^> fredrik: it's really odd Alt_R suddenly stopped working too
[10:36] <EriC^^> fredrik: try xmodmap -e "keycode 108=Alt_R"
[10:37] <fredrik> EriC^^: It seems to me that Alt_R should not change at all with the initial command (yet it does)
[10:37] <trollstation> Oerheks what is coc?
[10:37] <EriC^^> fredrik: yeah, the keycode is the same though, it's still 108
[10:38] <EriC^^> it just says that it's also binded to keycode 64, which is correct
[10:38] <fredrik> EriC^^: The last command did affect the right alt key but not to what it's supposed to be
[10:38] <EriC^^> what's ISO_... anyways?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:39] <trollstation> Howdy wtf?
[10:40] <BluesKaj> trollstation, wtf nick :-)
[10:40] <bazhang> trollstation, do you have an actual ubuntu support issue
[10:40] <fredrik> EriC^^: But the right Alt key used to have the following property 'XKeysymtoKeycode returns keycode: 92' after running xmodmap on left alt key (keycode 64) now the xev output of the right alt key (108) says that 'XkeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 64' -- is that not strange? It seems that right alt key no longer does something it used to do (and I want it to not change behaviour at all)
[10:40] <trollstation> Bahzang yep
[10:40] <fredrik> EriC^^: in combination with 8 it make brackets and shift+8 it makes curly brackets
[10:41] <fredrik> EriC^^: as per usual mac os x keyboard behaviour (at last a norwegian one)
[10:42] <EriC^^> fredrik: i think that does a reverse on it
[10:43] <EriC^^> the XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 64
[10:43] <EriC^^> let me try some stuff
[10:45] <fredrik> EriC^^: Thanks. If not I'll try more later and ignore it for now. I just signed up for a computer science course and we're using this ubuntu mod in virtualbox,, it's just frustrating to learn new stuff when even the keyboard won't listen:/
[10:45] <fredrik> EriC^^: But settling with alwas just using the right alt key isn't the biggest drawback
[10:45] <EriC^^> fredrik: yeah that's what it does
[10:46] <EriC^^> it looks up which keysums have that keycode, when i set shift to home, xev on home has XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 50
[10:46] <EriC^^> which is shift's keycode
[10:46] <EriC^^> fredrik: let me try setting another key to home and see what happens
[10:46] <EriC^^> and if shift still works as home
[10:47] <fredrik> EriC^^: ok. i'm assuming home works as before as well?
[10:47] <EriC^^> yeah it does
[10:47] <EriC^^> i set ctrl to it and now ctrl's keycode shows up in xev
[10:47] <EriC^^> but they all work as home still
[10:48] <fredrik> what bugs me the most is that running xmodmap on the left alt key somehow ends up upsetting the right alt key
[10:48] <EriC^^> fredrik: i guess that was another key that's set as Alt_R
[10:48] <fredrik> yeah
[10:49] <fredrik> i by the way tried setting the left alt key to 'm' and it did not frustrate the right alt key
[10:49] <fredrik> so i'm not sure if i keep confusing the two all the time when running xmodmap (even thoughi've done this 3 times now, keeping it in mind, and having you independently suggestion a command)
[10:50] <EriC^^> fredrik: what did you say alt_r used to be instead of 64?
[10:51] <fredrik> 92
[10:51] <EriC^^> xmodmap -pke shows that keycode  92 = ISO_Level3_Shift NoSymbol ISO_Level3_Shift
[10:51] <EriC^^> that's kind of interesting i guess
[10:52] <EriC^^> fredrik: what does xmodmap -pke say for you?
[10:53] <fredrik> Same as for you (92 and 108 is identical). 64 says: Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L
[10:56] <fredrik> I tried setting both 64 and 108, at the same time, to both of those outputs
[10:56] <fredrik> it ends up working in neither case
[10:56] <EriC^^> fredrik: try to close the window then open it
[10:56] <EriC^^> i tried setting shift to iso_level
[10:56] <fredrik> which window?
[10:56] <EriC^^> and it kept working as usual, then i set ctrl
[10:57] <EriC^^> anyways when i closed the terminal it stopped working, and now it seems to be like shift, except it only works for the numbers to get *&()
[10:57] <EriC^^> actually it isn't working in xchat, just in the terminal
[10:58] <EriC^^> is it supposed to be like shift but only for the upper numbers?
[10:59] <fredrik> EriC^^: i'm always testing in gedit in another window. the dummy i do is just setting either to a letter and it works immediately, so closing a window shouldn't make any difference
[10:59] <EriC^^> fredrik: try testing in a terminal
[10:59] <fredrik> EriC^^: no, shift gives a parenthesis, while alt gives a bracket
[10:59] <EriC^^> for some reason it isn't working in xchat for me
[10:59] <fredrik> EriC^^: works for 'm' in terminal as well.
[11:00] <fredrik> i've spent two hours on this and must move on and accept a failure. I really appreciate the help, it's always astonishing how much good help one can get on IRC and elsewhere. Many thanks!
[11:01] <EriC^^> i think i get what it does
[11:01] <EriC^^> it's like pressing shift and control at the same time
[11:01] <fredrik> very possible that that's the equivalent on a windows system
[11:02] <EriC^^> ok, no problem
[11:02] <Guest15964> Hello all. I have a bluetooth adapter that I am trying to  connect to my ubuntu laptop. Pairing is successful, but after pairing the device appears in sound settings and disappears immediately.
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> Guest15964  does the icon disappear, but the connection remains, or does the connection disappear?
[11:05] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust The connection remains, but disappears from the output devices list in sound settings
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> Guest15964  try blueman, you see it connected there?
[11:06] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust Yes blueman shows connected
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest15964  then what's the issue exactly?
[11:08] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust Oh sorry after sometime it gets disconnected. The issue is that I cannot stream music to a bluetooth audio adapter
[11:08] <Guest15964> It pairs and connects and after a while it gets disconnected
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> ok, that's different, unstable bluetooth, no clue...
[11:09] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust, Oh ok
[11:09] <Guest15964> MonkeyDust, Thanks
[11:10] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, is it working in windows or any other kernels?
[11:10] <Guest15964> harishkrupo, Yes it is working in windows
[11:11] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, which kernel are you using?
[11:11] <harishkrupo> version
[11:12] <Guest15964> harishkrupo, 3.13.0-43-generic
[11:12] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, `uname -r`
[11:12] <Guest15964> harishkrupo, Thanks I just googled that :)
[11:13] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, try using a latest stable kernel (compile your own kernel from kernel.org) and see if it works , bluetooth driver bugs generally get fixed
[11:14] <harishkrupo> Guest15964, had the same issue with my bluetooth headphones
[11:18] <Guest15964> harishkrupo, Thanks
[11:25] <Losuto> hi
[11:25] <Losuto> help
[11:28] <Losuto> howi get
[11:28] <Losuto> smell of pussy out of my dick!
[11:29] <EriC^^> !info bleachbit
[11:29] <austin4312> Hi! I would appreciate if you guys could help me out. Here is the problem I'm facing:
[11:29] <austin4312> So I am trying to get the Vino VNC Server to startup on boot, meaning I don't have to login to have the VNC Server start. I am on Ubuntu GNOME 15.04, and I have already added "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to 'Startup Applications'.
[11:29] <austin4312> However, the VNC Server still won't start as soon as I boot up. I have to login in order for the VNC Server to start. What should I do? Do I need to create a systemd unit file? If so, how do I do it?
[11:30] <Ben64> don't use vino if you want to have vnc without logging in
[11:30] <austin4312> Ben64 Why not? Is there a reason?
[11:30] <harishkrupo> austin4312, here is one example on how to write systemd unit files http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47695/how-to-write-startup-script-for-systemd
[11:31] <Ben64> it shares :0 normally, which is the main screen, and since it's not active yet really....
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> !vnc
[11:32] <austin4312> I tried to create a systemd unit file: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png
[11:32] <ruben699> Hello
[11:32] <austin4312> however, it gave me this error: "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it
[11:33] <harishkrupo> austin4312, cant you just use automatic login so that vnc server automatically starts?
[11:34] <austin4312> i dont want to because it leaves my system vulnerable for 30 seconds
[11:34] <harishkrupo> 30 seconds?
[11:34] <austin4312> harishkrupo btw do you known what's wrong with my systemd file?
[11:35] <austin4312> harishkrupo from auto login to auto screen lock, the fastest is 30 seconds
[11:35] <habbasi> austin4312: Add a script to init.d that starts it up.
[11:35] <austin4312> habbasi I have no idea how to do that. Could you guide me?
[11:35] <habbasi> austin4312: Be sure to add sudo -u /bin/bash if you want it to start up as another user.
[11:36] <Ben64> austin4312: if someone has physical access to the computer, its already vulnerable
[11:36] <habbasi> austin4312: Oh, just move whatever you put in .bashrc to a file in /etc/init.d
[11:36] <harishkrupo> but does systemd support init.d
[11:36] <austin4312> habbasi i have no idea what you mean by that...
[11:37] <ikonia> systemd is a totally different init system
[11:37] <Ben64> austin4312: or just use a different vnc server
[11:37] <austin4312> Ben64 I need to stay on Vino
[11:37] <Ben64> why
[11:37] <austin4312> Too long to explain here
[11:37] <Ben64> they all provide the same function, a remote desktop using the vnc protocol
[11:39] <harishkrupo> ok what is the problem with the script?
[11:39] <austin4312> it gave me this error: "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it
[11:40] <ikonia> what do you mean what is the problem with it ?
[11:40] <austin4312> ikonia i think he means why doesn't it work
[11:40] <ikonia> perhaps more detail is required rather than "it doesn't work"
[11:40] <harishkrupo> yeah
[11:41] <narkman> sup
[11:41] <austin4312> ikonia First, this is my script: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png
[11:41] <austin4312> When I tried to save it, the terminal shows:  "(gedit:2335): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files"
[11:41] <bekks> austin4312: Thats not a script, but the content of a desktop file.
[11:41] <austin4312> oh. im new to this. sorry
[11:41] <bekks> austin4312: and a GTK-warning does not inhibit it from saving the file.
[11:42] <ikonia> austin4312: have you actually wrote this - or have you just copied this from somewhere ?
[11:42] <austin4312> copied and edited
[11:42] <ikonia> austin4312: so talking to the people who wrote it seems the logical step
[11:42] <austin4312> this is where i copied from: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/centos-how-tos/configure-vnc-server-on-centos-7-rhel-7.html
[11:42] <harishkrupo> did you edit it in gedit?
[11:42] <austin4312> harishkrupo
[11:42] <austin4312> yes
[11:42] <harishkrupo> ok then the problem is not with the script
[11:42] <austin4312> the people did not wrote it for Ubuntu GNOME 15.04
[11:42] <harishkrupo> it is just a gedit warning
[11:43] <ikonia> why is that script calling gedit
[11:43] <ikonia> it has nothing to do with gedit
[11:43] <harishkrupo> no he is editing it in gedit
[11:43] <ikonia> then why are you showing me the gedit warning as a problem with this file ?
[11:43] <harishkrupo> try opening gedit from terminal it will sometimes give that warning
[11:43] <bekks> And since it is a warning, it can be safely ignored.
[11:44] <ikonia> I'm still waiting to hear the problem
[11:44] <harishkrupo> just save the file in /usr/lib/systemd/scripts/
[11:44] <ikonia> looks like a reasonably basic systemd unit
[11:44] <bekks> You cannot save files as a regular user in that directory.
[11:44] <bekks> You need to use gksu
[11:44] <austin4312> harishkrupo so just save it there and everything will work? oh and is my content of that file correct?
[11:44] <harishkrupo> and run systemctl enable "<name of script>"
[11:45] <bekks> austin4312: you cannot save the file as a regular user there.
[11:45] <austin4312> bekks sudo cp?
[11:45] <harishkrupo> yeah
[11:45] <bekks> austin4312: Yes.
[11:45] <ikonia> what is the problem with the script?
[11:45] <ikonia> you keep saying it doesn't work
[11:45] <ikonia> could you define doesn't work
[11:45] <jarnos> I wonder why `dlocate /usr/bin/text2wave` prints nothing even if `dpkg-query -S /usr/bin/text2wave` prints "festival: /usr/bin/text2wave"?
[11:45] <bekks> ikonia: The problem was the unability to save a file in a non-user-writable directory.
[11:46] <ikonia> ??? but it was flagged as "the script doesn't work"
[11:46] <austin4312> first of all i saved it in /etc/systemd/system/vino-server.service
[11:46] <bekks> austin4312: That directory isnt writable for users, too.
[11:47] <austin4312> so per harishkrupo 's suggestion, i will now try to save it in /usr/lib/systemd/scripts/
[11:47] <austin4312> so wahat should I do now? I thought sudo cp would work?
[11:47] <harishkrupo> oh sorry not there here /usr/lib/systemd/system/
[11:47] <bekks> Save it in your home directory, and use sudo cp
[11:47] <harishkrupo> my bad
[11:47] <harishkrupo> that location is for scripts not service files
[11:48] <austin4312> lets slow down a little bit.
[11:48] <austin4312> does my file: http://i.imgur.com/G2aO5Ec.png looks correct?
[11:48] <austin4312> I used backticks and all, not sure if i should use quotes and such
[11:50] <austin4312> harishkrupo btw /usr/lib/systemd/system/ does not exist, do you mean /etc/systemd/system ?
[11:51] <harishkrupo> since you are passing the command as argument, dont use backticks
[11:51] <austin4312> if so, i've tried systemctl start vino-server.service, and it dosent work
[11:51] <austin4312> so what should i use?
[11:51] <austin4312> I've tried ' and " but none of them work.
[11:51] <harishkrupo> that is weird
[11:51] <austin4312> Perhaps you can try to write them and put them in pastebin?
[11:52] <harishkrupo> brb
[11:52] <austin4312> brb too
[11:59] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://wiki.call-cc.org/spiffy-systemd-scripts here is a good example
[12:01] <Reptilia> I am having problems with the hibernate / suspend options on my laptop. When i am on AC and i close the lid, the laptop won't hibernate but will just only turn off the screen. On the contrary, when i am on battery power, the laptop will suspend when i close the lid. In both cases i am getting the following message: "Power Manager - not authorized" accompanied with an icon with "Z z" written on it. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks in advance.
[12:01] <Reptilia> This started happening after an update which i made approx. a week ago
[12:02] <austin4312> back
[12:03] <austin4312> harishkrupo I did have one myself, for Vino specifically. Probelm is, I don't know if the syntax is correct
[12:03] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://wiki.call-cc.org/spiffy-systemd-scripts here is a good example
[12:03] <harishkrupo> ok
[12:03] <austin4312> and whether or not it actually does its job
[12:04] <harishkrupo> read that for a moment, till then i will try to find out why usr/lib/systemd doesnt exist
[12:04] <austin4312> ok
[12:05] <kunji> Is it lightweight/reasonable to run a bash script from cron every 10 seconds (script just handles a file processing queue)?  This relates to Ubuntu because I'm asking about the performance in particular for the cron in Ubuntu 14.04, my impression is that this is fine, but maybe not?
[12:06] <ikonia> kunji: thats up to you
[12:07] <ikonia> you know how much resource your jobs take
[12:07] <ikonia> cron in ubuntu is no different than cron on any other unix based platform
[12:07] <kunji> ikonia: I suppose I'm asking what overhead is involved in cron generally then?
[12:07] <ikonia> what overhead ?
[12:07] <kunji> ikonia: That answers my question then ^_^
[12:07] <jrc> 1
[12:08] <harishkrupo> austin4312, no clue
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> kunji  with the 'watch' command you can monitor a processing queue every 10 seconds too, no need for cron
[12:09] <kunji> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I'll check that out too.
[12:09] <harishkrupo> austin4312, ok it is /lib/systemd/system
[12:09] <austin4312> harishkrupo so there is where my file should be?
[12:10] <harishkrupo> austin4312, is that directory there ?
[12:10] <austin4312> harishkrupo yes
[12:10] <danijel> Hi
[12:10] <harishkrupo> austin4312, my problem is I use ubuntu 14.04 and i use systemd in my arch setup so i am not sure how ubuntu places its files
[12:11] <austin4312> ah i see...
[12:11] <harishkrupo> austin4312, k then just place it there and then try starting it
[12:11] <austin4312> ok. trying it now
[12:11] <harishkrupo> austin4312, not back tics
[12:12] <austin4312> harishkrupo what should it be then?
[12:12] <harishkrupo> austin4312, also the files must be owned by root(i read it somewhere dont know why)
[12:13] <harishkrupo> austin4312, double quotes ""
[12:13] <harishkrupo> austin4312, because they are auguemts to /bin/sh -c
[12:13] <austin4312> harishkrupo for all three (execstartpre, execstart, and execstop)?
[12:14] <harishkrupo> austin4312, yup
[12:14] <austin4312> alright. trying now
[12:15] <austin4312> harishkrupo it gave this in the terminal: "Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files" when i tried to save it. should i proceed, or is there something wrong with my code?
[12:16] <harishkrupo> austin4312, just save it in your home directory and then sudo cp it to the destination
[12:16] <harishkrupo> austin4312, it is a warning, ignore
[12:16] <austin4312> ok
[12:17] <ikonia> austin4312: if basic file managment is out of your level of understanding, you are going to struggle to maintain systemd unit files
[12:17] <austin4312> ikonia i don't plan to maintain it. I just need it to work past the initial setup
[12:17] <ikonia> you are going to struggle then
[12:18] <ikonia> if you don't understand the basics of file system permissions - this is going to fail for you
[12:18] <austin4312> ikonia Do you have a better solution for me then?
[12:18] <ikonia> austin4312: what is it you're actually trying to do/achieve ?
[12:18] <austin4312> I need the Vino VNC server to start when I power the machine on, without logging in first
[12:19] <ikonia> austin4312: why does it have to be vino
[12:19] <ikonia> why not one of the ones that is shipped/packaged by ubuntu ?
[12:19] <ikonia> that way you open the package manager, click install, done
[12:19] <austin4312> Isn't vino preinstalled in ubuntu?
[12:19] <ikonia> I don't know, is it?
[12:19] <austin4312> the reason would be too long to explain here
[12:19] <austin4312> vino is preinstalled
[12:20] <ikonia> so why are you not using the supplied ubuntu init script ?
[12:20] <ikonia> what's the problem with it ?
[12:20] <austin4312> where can i find that?
[12:20] <ikonia> there should be a systemd script supplied with it
[12:21] <ikonia> before you do anything, is vnc starting up on it's own ?
[12:21] <ikonia> or does the init script not do that ?
[12:21] <austin4312> it does start up on its own
[12:21] <austin4312> but I have to login into the machine after powering it on first
[12:22] <ikonia> so that suggests to me it's not being launched from init, but from your desktop session
[12:22] <austin4312> harishkrupo when I tried to do systemctl start vino-server.service, it gave me: "Failed to start vino-server.service: Unit vino-server.service failed to load: Invalid argument. See system logs and 'systemctl status vino-server.service' for details."
[12:22] <austin4312> ikonia So what should I do?
[12:23] <ikonia> austin4312: that error sugggests your script is wrong
[12:23] <ikonia> it's trying to pass an argument that isn't supported/valid
[12:23] <harishkrupo> austin4312, ok can you pastebin your script?
[12:23] <austin4312> ok. doing it now.
[12:23] <OerHeks> systemctl status vino
[12:24] <austin4312> the status command gave me: http://i.imgur.com/F8Fjc5d.png
[12:24] <ikonia> this is not designed for ubuntu
[12:24] <ikonia> you're using a script designed for fedora
[12:24] <ikonia> it would seem
[12:24] <codepython777> is there any chance apple would sell its laptops without its OS? :) (i prefer ubuntu as well) - I've been reading reviews of xps 13 and x1 carbon, but seems like the mac laptops are better built.
[12:25] <ikonia> codepython777: that is nothing to do with this channel
[12:25] <austin4312> here is the script: http://pastebin.com/N69veuwC
[12:25] <codepython777> ikonia: i was hoping someone has recently gotten ubuntu on the x1/carbon/mac
[12:25] <ikonia> codepython777: why ?
[12:25] <austin4312> ikonia yeah i copied it from a centos guide
[12:25] <ikonia> austin4312: it's not going to work then
[12:25] <austin4312> the guide: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/centos-how-tos/configure-vnc-server-on-centos-7-rhel-7.html
[12:25] <austin4312> Someone in #ubuntu-gnome suggested it to me
[12:26] <ikonia> remove the word [service]
[12:26] <austin4312> he s/run/lead/ ubuntu gnome, according to him
[12:26] <ikonia> remove network.target if you want a more agressive test
[12:26] <ikonia> austin4312: if he's suggesting it - he should be able to support it/fix it in seconds
[12:27] <austin4312> quote: "I barely have time to run Ubuntu GNOME atm "
[12:27] <austin4312> " sorry but I do not have time to provide individual user support "
[12:27] <austin4312> which is why im asking for help here
[12:27] <ikonia> remove the word [service]
[12:27] <ikonia> remove the network.target if you want an agressive test
[12:28] <nico__>  /budus macro setup
[12:28] <austin4312> ikonia so like so? http://pastebin.com/sEprpR4K
[12:28] <ikonia> yes
[12:28] <YamakasY> will 32 bits package in 64bit ubuntu get issues ?
[12:29] <ikonia> can do
[12:29] <ikonia> depends how they are built
[12:29] <harishkrupo> austin4312, i am writing the script
[12:29] <austin4312> harishkrupo thanks
[12:30] <austin4312> harishkrupo fyi in the script i provided, "b" is my username
[12:30] <YamakasY> ikonia: ok I'm checking out  https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+build/7003236
[12:30] <austin4312> ikonia im trying it out now
[12:31] <jrc> ubuntu is good
[12:31] <austin4312> ikonia same error.
[12:32] <harishkrupo> austin4312, is there a directory /lib/systemd/scripts
[12:33] <austin4312> harishkrupo no
[12:33] <harishkrupo> austin4312, /etc/systemd/scripts?
[12:34] <harishkrupo> austin4312, or /usr/lib/systemd/scripts
[12:34] <austin4312> no for /etc/systemd/scripts
[12:34] <austin4312> no too for /usr/lib/systemd/scirpts
[12:35] <harishkrupo> austin4312, now thats bad
[12:35] <harishkrupo> austin4312, ok one sec
[12:35] <austin4312> why so?
[12:35] <austin4312> no prob
[12:36] <harishkrupo> austin4312, what is you home folder? echo $HOME
[12:36] <austin4312> harishkrupo /home/b
[12:38] <YamakasY> any help with building a sssd package ?
[12:39] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://pastebin.com/4TXD8wsC
[12:40] <harishkrupo> austin4312, this is the script to start the server
[12:40] <harishkrupo> austin4312, place it in your home folder /home/b
[12:40] <harishkrupo> austin4312, also make it executable
[12:40] <austin4312> harishkrupo so do I have to explicitly call this script or does it run automatically on start up?
[12:41] <harishkrupo> austin4312, oh name it vino-server
[12:41] <austin4312> extension?
[12:41] <harishkrupo> austin4312, one sec uploading the service file
[12:41] <austin4312> ok
[12:41] <austin4312> so basically name it vino-server.service?
[12:42] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://pastebin.com/rHc5L1vB
[12:42] <harishkrupo> austin4312, no name this as vino-server.service
[12:42] <harishkrupo> austin4312, the previous one will be vino-server only
[12:42] <austin4312> ok. both of them in the home folder?
[12:42] <harishkrupo> austin4312, the service file will go in the same place as the previous one
[12:42] <jrc> oops
[12:43] <harishkrupo> austin4312, no the service file in /lib/systemd/system
[12:43] <austin4312> harishkrupo which one?
[12:43] <austin4312> hold on im a little confused now.
[12:43] <harishkrupo> austin4312, name the service file vino-server.service and place it in /lib/systemd/system
[12:43] <austin4312> first, where do I save this one at: http://pastebin.com/4TXD8wsC
[12:44] <harishkrupo> austin4312, that one will be at you home directory
[12:44] <harishkrupo> austin4312, and make it executable
[12:44] <harishkrupo> austin4312, finish that first
[12:45] <austin4312> alright saved the one in /lib/systemd/system
[12:45] <austin4312> how do i make it executable? whats the extension?
[12:46] <harishkrupo> chmod o+x /home/b/vino-server
[12:46] <harishkrupo> austin4312, oh there is a small change in the .service file
[12:47] <austin4312> just did the chmod command
[12:47] <austin4312> ok
[12:48] <harishkrupo> austin4312, http://pastebin.com/vTmZ8x45 this is the edited service file
[12:48] <harishkrupo> name this file vino-server.service and place it in /lib/systemd/system/
[12:50] <austin4312> harishkrupo alright just saved both of them. What's the next step?
[12:50] <harishkrupo> try starting it ...
[12:50] <harishkrupo> systemctl start vino-server
[12:51] <austin4312> Failed to start vino-server.service: Unit vino-server.service failed to load: Invalid argument. See system logs and 'systemctl status vino-server.service' for details.
[12:52] <harishkrupo> systemctl  status vino-server.service
[12:54] <ioria> this is for X11vnc , but maybe it can help : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#Have_x11vnc_start_automatically_via_systemd_in_any_environment_.28Vivid.2B-.29
[12:54] <harishkrupo> austin4312, what is the output?
[12:54] <austin4312> harishkrupo http://i.imgur.com/mwu0vwm.png
[12:55] <austin4312> hmm... its refering to /etc/systemd/system
[12:55] <OerHeks> sudo systemctl enable vino-server.service   maybe?
[12:56] <harishkrupo> austin4312, then place it there maybe
[12:56] <austin4312> Created symlink from /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/vino-server.service to /etc/systemd/system/vino-server.service.
[12:56] <austin4312> is the output
[12:57] <harishkrupo> austin4312, no wait first copy the service file to /etc/systemd/system/
[12:58] <harishkrupo> and try starting it, if it works then enable it
[12:58] <austin4312> so: sudo cp /lib/systemd/system/ /etc/systemd/system/ ?
[12:59] <harishkrupo> no
[12:59] <harishkrupo> sudo cp /lib/systemd/system/vino-server.service /etc/systemd/system/
[13:00] <austin4312> oops
[13:02] <wayne__> a
[13:02] <harishkrupo> austin4312, after copying systemctl start vino-server
[13:02] <austin4312> b@b-linux-server:~$ systemctl daemon-reload
[13:02] <austin4312> b@b-linux-server:~$ systemctl start vino-server
[13:02] <austin4312> Job for vino-server.service failed. See "systemctl status vino-server.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[13:02] <wayne__> hello
[13:02] <harishkrupo> ok systemctl status vino-server.service
[13:03] <austin4312> harishkrupo http://i.imgur.com/6RAV32k.png
[13:03] <wayne__> what's this
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !topic > wayne__,
[13:04] <OerHeks> maybe vino-server needs sudo to start
[13:04] <harishkrupo> austin4312, looks like -geometry is wrong does vino have that option?
[13:05] <blacksoul> hi, I reinstalled an ubuntu based linux and on startup, it hangs a while loading "input: TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint as /devices/............." # 2 days ago, it didn't take so long, that's why I reinstalled my system, cause I couldn't find out the reason...
[13:05] <harishkrupo> OerHeks, systemd is running as root
[13:05] <blacksoul> any idea, why it takes ~30 sec to load the trackpoint?
[13:05] <blacksoul> or how to change it back to 1 sec?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> blacksoul, you are using something not ubuntu.  see your distro for support as it is not supported here.
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !flavors | blacksoul these are the only supported ubuntu distros
[13:06] <harishkrupo> austin4312, try removing the -geometry option from the vino-server file in you home folder
[13:07] <harishkrupo> austin4312, the new line would be /sbin/runuser -l b -c "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i"
[13:11] <austin4312> ok
[13:11] <YamakasY> can anyone help me out building sssd from git ?
[13:12] <harishkrupo> austin4312, try starting it again
[13:12] <austin4312> b@b-linux-server:~$ systemctl start vino-server
[13:12] <austin4312> Job for vino-server.service failed. See "systemctl status vino-server.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[13:13] <harishkrupo> systemctl  status vino-server.service
[13:13] <austin4312> hold on im getting the status
[13:14] <austin4312> harishkrupohttp://i.imgur.com/W63tpCu.png
[13:14] <austin4312> harishkrupo http://i.imgur.com/W63tpCu.png
[13:15] <harishkrupo> austin4312, this is the problem of vino, which i have no idea( i dont use vino)
[13:16] <harishkrupo> /sbin/runuser -l b -c "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i" try running this command from terminal
[13:17] <austin4312> it gives a
[13:17] <austin4312> >
[13:17] <austin4312> and i think it prompts me to type something?
[13:18] <Ben64> i don't have a /sbin/runuser
[13:18] <Ben64> do you?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> austin4312  have you tried something different from vino? maybe it's easier to use and configure
[13:18] <austin4312> i do
[13:18] <austin4312> the "Type" is program
[13:19] <harishkrupo> austin4312, just try /usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i
[13:19] <austin4312> MonkeyDust i think i have to just give up on Vino already.... I've been trying for like 12 hours already...
[13:19] <OerHeks> he wants to run vino at boot, as far as i understand
[13:20] <austin4312> harishkrupo the output:
[13:20] <austin4312> (vino-server:3463): EggSMClient-CRITICAL **: egg_sm_client_set_mode: assertion 'global_client == NULL || global_client_mode == EGG_SM_CLIENT_MODE_DISABLED' failed
[13:20] <austin4312> ** Message: The desktop sharing service is already running, exiting.
[13:20] <Ben64> austin4312: didn't i suggest giving up on vino quite a while ago
[13:20] <harishkrupo> :P
[13:20] <austin4312> actually, harishkrupo i think i should just give up on vino...
[13:21] <austin4312> yeah. thats what im going to do now i guess...
[13:21] <austin4312> hey harishkrupo, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for your assistance :)
[13:21] <harishkrupo> ok then but this time choose something that has the systemd service in it :P
[13:21] <harishkrupo> austin4312, welcome
[13:21] <unknown_user> Hello, there! How are you?
[13:21] <austin4312> what are the options?
[13:21] <harishkrupo> austin4312, btw vino is running
[13:22] <flopshow> so what is up
[13:22] <flopshow> I love Ubuntu
[13:22] <flopshow> its free as in freedom
[13:22] <austin4312> yeah...
[13:22] <harishkrupo> tigervnc
[13:22] <cfhowlett> flopshow, continue chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  this is the support channel.
[13:22] <harishkrupo> then kill vino and try again maybe one last time
[13:22] <austin4312> command to kill it?
[13:23] <YamakasY> some pro's around ?
[13:24] <harishkrupo> "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server -kill %i > /dev/null 2>&1 || :"
[13:26] <austin4312> killed it
[13:26] <austin4312> systemctl start vino-server ?
[13:26] <harishkrupo> no
[13:26] <harishkrupo> /sbin/runuser -l b -c "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i" try running this command from terminal
[13:28] <austin4312> it gave me this:
[13:28] <austin4312> >
[13:28] <austin4312> thats all
[13:30] <harishkrupo> press ctrl+c
[13:30] <harishkrupo> and try this "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i"
[13:31] <dearn> Hey guys, any way to make ubuntu boot a bit faster? It takes about 30 sec (from grub to login) on i7 cpu which feels bit long. I'm not sure which services in rcconf are safe to disable
[13:32] <austin4312> (vino-server:3463): EggSMClient-CRITICAL **: egg_sm_client_set_mode: assertion 'global_client == NULL || global_client_mode == EGG_SM_CLIENT_MODE_DISABLED' failed
[13:32] <austin4312> ** Message: The desktop sharing service is already running, exiting.
[13:33] <austin4312> harishkrupo haha i think you and i are done with Vino already...
[13:33] <harishkrupo> "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server -kill %i > /dev/null 2>&1 || :" && "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server %i"
[13:33] <harishkrupo> yeah lol
[13:34] <austin4312> gtg now. FUCK Vino, and Thank You So Much for Your help!!! :D
[13:34] <harishkrupo> seriously i need to know why vino???
[13:35] <austin4312> haha I MAY need to do this on LOTS of machine, and installing another vnc server seems problematic to mic, but its mostly just my laziness :P
[13:35] <austin4312> anywayss gtg now. bye!
[13:35] <harishkrupo> ok bye :P
[13:47] <DWSR> Hey all, I have installed Ubuntu Server 14.04 into a Hyper-V VM. I installed linux-virtual through apt but it is not being loaded by default and there is no grub menu to select which kernel I want. How do I remove all of the generic kernels from my system and force virtual?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> DWSR, might want to ask #ubuntu-server
[13:48] <DWSR> cfhowlett: Yeah, I'll recopy the question to there as well. Thanks.
[13:49] <metalice> hi everyone, im new to ubuntu and linux in general. what is the best way to learn all the basic of linux? bought a few books on amazon, waiting for delivery.
[13:50] <DWSR> metalice: Books will probably help. Youtube videos are also great.
[13:50] <cfhowlett> metalice, 1. stop buying.  SO MUCH free stuff e.g. www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[13:50] <Johnny_Linux> read read play read
[13:51] <cfhowlett> metalice, also, narrow your focus.  "learn linux"?  that could take LIBRARIES.  choose a narrow band to start with
[13:51] <badbodh> metalice, a click here and a clickity there, voila you are a linux user
[13:52] <badbodh> Johnny_Linux, it should be: play play bork read fix play
[13:52] <Johnny_Linux> exactly
[13:52] <badbodh> read read..pffft!
[13:53] <cfhowlett> Linux From Scratch to get really dirty ...
[13:53] <badbodh> too much dirt. no need to scare a new guy
[13:53] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:53] <Johnny_Linux> ive been doing linux 10 yrs now, back in 04 my 2kpro machine broke, so i took the plunge and never looked back.
[13:54] <metalice> thank for the comments, im already a ubnutu user, for 4 months or so.. i have a B.Sc in CS so im not new to linux so much, but i would like to know more, i dont have a special idea of direction in linux i want to focus on, yet. i need to learn all the basic staring how linux ticks in depth and shell scripting, etc...
[13:54] <DWSR> metalice: You should really pick an area and focus on it.
[13:55] <Johnny_Linux> na
[13:55] <DWSR> If you want to learn about the inner workings of the Kernel, then go that route.
[13:55] <cfhowlett> metalice, then I reiterate: Linux From Scratch will teach you how to build your very own linux distro ...
[13:55] <Johnny_Linux> just pick ubuntu, play with it, come here, learn
[13:58] <Johnny_Linux> there is about a dozen or so folks in here that know their stuff and will be glad to help.
[13:59] <DWSR> That's kind of insulting to the other ~1k users that are in here. :P
[13:59] <Johnny_Linux> only if you have a small mind
[13:59] <badbodh> 500+ are actually bots johnny
[13:59] <Johnny_Linux> prolly
[13:59] <bgc> hi friends i have two partitions on my ubuntu desktop one of system ( / ) the other one my data mounted in ( /media/data) but i cant see my files while i want to open it says you dont have permission to see please help im new on ubuntu
[14:00] <metalice> thanks guys! :)
[14:00] <badbodh> bgc, type "lsblk" in terminal and share on paste
[14:01] <bgc> badbodh, sda      8:0    0 698,7G  0 disk
[14:01] <bgc> ├─sda1   8:1    0   350M  0 part [SWAP]
[14:01] <bgc> ├─sda2   8:2    0 248,8G  0 part /
[14:01] <bgc> └─sda3   8:3    0 449,5G  0 part /media/data
[14:01] <bgc> sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom
[14:01] <badbodh> don't flood here, paste on some pastebin and give us the link
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> bgc  use this http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:02] <Johnny_Linux> !pastbinit
[14:02] <badbodh> paste.ubuntu.com is it?
[14:02] <bgc> im sorry im new
[14:02] <Johnny_Linux> !pastbinit | bgc
[14:02] <badbodh> ok
[14:02] <badbodh> np
[14:02] <metalice> what is the IRC app that your are using on ubuntu?
[14:03] <DWSR> bgc: It's considerd good ettiquette to paste something longer than 2 lines to something like a pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu.com) and then post a link to the paste here. This helps keep the amount of text in the channel down
[14:03] <astroboy> i'll ask about 'scrot' command, How to specify width of output image??
[14:03] <badbodh> bgc, go to /etc folder, open file 'fstab' and paste its contents on pastebin
[14:03] <badbodh> share link
[14:03] <bgc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714249/
[14:04] <badbodh> bgc, ^^ fstab too
[14:04] <bgc> im so sorry friend
[14:05] <bgc> badbodh, folder is empty
[14:05] <badbodh> Johnny_Linux, any list of all the !commands you folks use ?
[14:06] <zhongfu> metalice: I used to use xchat but now I use quassel because of quasselcore and quasseldroid
[14:06] <Johnny_Linux> i plead the 5th
[14:06] <badbodh> bgc, /etc/fstab file, it is a text file
[14:06] <DWSR> Quassel <3
[14:06] <badbodh> can't be empty
[14:07] <metalice> zhongfu: thanks ill try it. is there a way at quassel to change setting or filter chats so it wont show all the incoming and outgoing users and only show content of conversations?
[14:07] <bgc> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714272/
[14:07] <badbodh> Johnny_Linux, just the ones for info. like the pastebin thingy you gave right now. i've seen folks using them for generic info
[14:07] <DWSR> bgc: sudo cat /etc/fstab <-- run this in a terminal and paste the output
[14:07] <Johnny_Linux> they are built in the bot, i dont have a written list per say
[14:08] <DWSR> bgc: nevermind, that works too
[14:08] <zhongfu> metalice: I can't find one in quasselclient, but there might be something like that in xchat
[14:08] <zhongfu> metalice: oh wait, nix that, I found it
[14:08] <jrc> 3
[14:08] <bgc> DWSR, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714272/
[14:08] <metalice> zhongfu: gr8 thanks man
[14:09] <zhongfu> metalice: you can hide joins/parts/quits/nick changes/mode changes/topic changes and more
[14:09] <badbodh> fstab seems to be in order, although i never use 'defaults' for data partition
[14:09] <badbodh> bgc, what exact error message did you get ?
[14:10] <bgc> badbodh, "BGC" içeriklerini görmek için yeterli yetkiniz yok. it is türkçe
[14:11] <Inoki> Hi all. How do I list all "libreoffice" packages currently installed? What's the command? (similar to what you'd do in Synaptic by typing in the search field "libreoffice" and then sorting according to what's installed)
[14:11] <metallico> hi guys, my ubuntu VM stopped working and now it hands on boot screen. Here is my syslog: http://pastebin.com/Gvtv8k0t
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Inoki, dpkg -l | grep libreoffice
[14:11] <metallico> it hangs*
[14:11] <zhongfu> Inoki: you can try using "sudo dpkg -L | grep libreoffice" i think
[14:11] <badbodh> bgc, if you know how to edit that file with root access, you may change "/media/data" to "/mnt/data" instead. /media for removable drives, /mnt for internal hdd
[14:11] <zhongfu> whoops, -l (lowercase) not uppercase
[14:11] <cfhowlett> zhongfu, no sudo needed.  don't sudo if you don't need sudo
[14:12] <zhongfu> cfhowlett: ah I see, thanks
[14:12] <Inoki> Oh, nice, thanks! And making it as output to a file I can use dpkg -l | grep libreoffice > libreoffice.txt?
[14:12] <badbodh> bgc, if you want to mount something in /media, it needs to be in /media/<username>/data not /media/data
[14:12] <badbodh> else only root will be able to use it
[14:13] <zhongfu> Inoki: yep
[14:13] <Inoki> zhongfu, cfhowlett, thanks again!
[14:13] <cfhowlett> Inoki, happy2help!
[14:15] <bgc> badbodh, how can i change mnt from media
[14:15] <drmagoo> Hey, anyone here any good with conky. I'm trying to modify this conkyrc http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714244/, to only display time and date and it does that now. But the bottom half of the "window" is filled with  empty space, anyone have a suggestion on how to remove that empty space and make the window smaller?
[14:16] <kunji> drmagoo: set the maximum_height?
[14:17] <badbodh> bgc, first open terminal and type "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-copy"
[14:17] <Inoki> Also, can you guys recommend a database with all commands that has a search? - in case I need to look up information about a command. Or you recommend simply using man <command>?
[14:17] <badbodh> always backup your system file before changing
[14:18] <bgc> badbodh, ok
[14:18] <kunji> Inoki: The database commands mostly conform to SQL and the documentation for each one will cover the cases where it does something unusual.
[14:18] <badbodh> bgc, then "gksu gedit" to open editor, drag-n-drop fstab file on it
[14:19] <drmagoo> kunji: tried that, conky ignores it / doesnt make any diffrence
[14:19] <kunji> Inoki: For instance, MySQL Docs: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/
[14:20] <bgc> badbodh, then
[14:20] <Inoki> kunji: thank you, but I was more aiming towards a site with all the terminal commands and their explanations :) Perhaps I should've rephrased my Q properly, my bad.
[14:20] <kunji> Inoki: But you don't use terminal commands for your database...
[14:20] <badbodh> bgc, now look for the line "UUID=4fb6cdca-5642-4684-8a63-42a7f5e9ed1d /media/data     ext4    defaults        0       2"
[14:20] <badbodh> line 11 in your pastebin link
[14:21] <badbodh> change "/media/data" to "/mnt/data"
[14:21] <kunji> Inoki: Aside from SQL itself that is... which is what I linked to for the implementation of MySQL.
[14:21] <Inoki> kunji: nono, I don't need help with a particular database. I was looking for a database (a site of some kind), that contains explanation of every linux terminal commands.
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Inoki, man man    for starters
[14:21] <bgc> badbodh, then
[14:22] <badbodh> save and reboot, see if you can access
[14:22] <badbodh> if not then i may have one more suggestion, but that's later
[14:22] <Inoki> cfhowlett, kunji: I want to become proficient in using the terminal ;) So just man man, I'll start with that then, thank you.
[14:23] <bgc> badbodh, thanx a lot  bro now i will reboot :D
[14:23] <badbodh> bgc, before rebooting share fstab on pastebin just to check
[14:23] <kunji> Inoki: Ohhh, gotcha.  The man pages cover a lot but they can be a bit cryptic.  I just search online when I encounter a new command.  It's not a database, but the nixcraft site is really good http://www.cyberciti.biz/
[14:24] <kunji> drmagoo: Is what is displayed just a few lines?
[14:24] <bgc> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714383/
[14:24] <Inoki> Also, I've found this http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php, but it doesn't contain a search field. And nice, now I got another one. Thanks kunji!
[14:24] <bunty> #ubuntu-touch
[14:25] <badbodh> bgc, ok reboot. i hope you were careful while editing, accidentally altering the UUID's will cost you :D
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !touch | bunty
[14:26] <badbodh> !pastebinit | badbodh
[14:26] <drmagoo> kunji: I haven't been able to figure out what causes that empty space.
[14:26] <kunji> drmagoo: Nvm, it's x then y right, I was thinking for a second that 150 was your min height there...
[14:27] <bgc> badbodh,  :D thnx again i hope i wont smell burning hdd :D
[14:27] <kunji> drmagoo: Sorry, it's been too long since I played with Conky, hopefully someone else knows.
[14:27] <badbodh> it won't burn, explode perhaps
[14:27] <badbodh> now shoo reboot
[14:27] <bgc> badbodh,  :D
[14:27] <Johnny_Linux> youve got to be from the U.K
[14:28] <drmagoo> kunji: thank you anyway =)
[14:31] <badbodh> !stupidity | badbodh
[14:31] <bgc> badbodh, file location changed but again i cant see my files permission error
[14:32] <bgc> how can i login as a root
[14:32] <badbodh> bgc, could you change your system language to english and show me the error message
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !root | bgc
[14:32] <badbodh> no no, you shall not root
[14:33] <kunji> He can sudo su... though I wouldn't recommend doing so too much.
[14:33] <badbodh> bgc, forget about root, that isn't the right way. for now just change language and show me error mssg
[14:34] <bgc> i dont understand what u mean with root i used before kali linux and i was login with root and i can reach everything
[14:34] <badbodh> in ubuntu/debian systems you don't login as root
[14:34] <badbodh> use sudo for a root command, or sudo -s for root shell. perios
[14:34] <badbodh> *period.
[14:34] <zykotick9> badbodh: well, in ubuntu systems...  debian is different
[14:35] <bgc> badbodh, i will reboot and come again
[14:36] <badbodh> zykotick9, how? they don't allow logging in as root either, from login managers that is (gdm/lightdm...)
[14:36] <badbodh> once upon a time they did
[14:36] <zykotick9> badbodh: that's a DM issue.  Debian prompts for root password during install.
[14:37] <badbodh> pfft! you can set root pass in ubuntu too
[14:37] <badbodh> open root shell with sudo -s and type 'passwd'
[14:37] <codepython777> i've a bunch of ubuntu boxes that i want to keep synced in terms of apt-get installs. How can i do this?
[14:37] <kunji> Of course you can, it doesn't mean you should
[14:38] <metalice_> thanks for the offer for quassel, works great :)
[14:38] <bgc> badbodh, error message is "This location could not be displayed You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of “BGC”.
[14:38] <kunji> codepython777: Figure out your syncing scheme and write a script for them to communicate that to each other over headless ssh.
[14:38] <badbodh> ok bgc . same drill, open fstab and edit.
[14:39] <kunji> bgc: Those ones are obnoxious, I usually sudo su to access them, but if it's a script you can just run it with sudo.  Better though is if you run it as the proper owner of the folder.
[14:40] <zykotick9> kunji: "sudo su" is bad form.  "sudo -i" if you _need_ (you don't) a root terminal.
[14:40] <badbodh> kunji, srsly stop this root-ism, this ain't proper :/
[14:41] <Johnny_Linux> there are several ways to root, not recommended
[14:41] <kunji> Thanks zyko, I've been using sudo su because I couldn't remember the other way, remind me of the difference though.
[14:41] <bgc> badbodh, what will i do now
[14:42] <metalice_> zykotick9: whats the different between sudo su and sudo -i ?
[14:42] <badbodh> bgc, open terminal and type "id" and enter. what is your uid= ?
[14:43] <badbodh> usually it is 1000
[14:43] <zykotick9> kunji: "sudo su" is gonna have a messed up environment...  it's using 2 different systems to elevate privs...
[14:43] <kunji> badbodh: I'm not trying to promote doing things as root, it was my "hack" to access a www-data owned folder.  I'm not sure why you can't sudo www-data and access it...
[14:43] <zykotick9> kunji: sidenote, you can use TAB in most clients to autocomplete nicknames in IRC
[14:44] <astroboy> How to specify width of output image using 'scrot' command??
[14:44] <kunji> zykotick9: nice ^_^
[14:44] <bgc> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714481/
[14:44] <badbodh> bad dog, bad dog kunji :/ don't teach it to others atleast
[14:44] <huig> hello, i am on ubuntu 14.04 and wanna upgrade to ubuntu 15.xx. do i need to backup my files?how can i upgrade it without downloading the .iso?
[14:44] <kunji> badbodh: ok, np, but what is the proper way to access such a folder?
[14:44] <badbodh> bgc, replace "defaults" in that same line with "rw,auto,noexec,uid=1000"
[14:45] <kunji> I would like to do it the right way
[14:45] <badbodh> bgc, i am assuming you have only single-user system
[14:45] <cfhowlett> huig, yes you backup.  you need to use the eolupgrade option.
[14:45] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | huig
[14:46] <huig> cfhowlett, but backing up is for 'just in case', or because i will really need to get my files back
[14:46] <bgc> badbodh, yes i m single user i dont have girlfriend :D
[14:46] <badbodh> kunji, proper gentleman's way is to chown and chmod
[14:46] <bgc> badbodh, i editted
[14:47] <badbodh> bgc, multi users need gid=1000 instead of uid=1000, that's why. your gf is irrelevant :D
[14:47] <kunji> badbodh:  Err, every time you need to change something in it?  Because the web server is the proper owner of that folder and it should not be my user's.
[14:47] <badbodh> ok save and reboot bgc
[14:47] <badbodh> again, share the paste once
[14:47] <bgc> badbodh, :D i cant save
[14:48] <badbodh> bgc, didn't you "gksu gedit"? yougotta remember the steps :/
[14:48] <cfhowlett> huig, just for fun, assume you files get lost and that you were too ... lazy ... to do a proper backup.  imagine you come back to this channel to explain the dire situation.  imagine the complete lack of sympathy that you'll get in the face of your self-inflicted damage by rejecting the advice that is ALWAYS given: thou shall backup
[14:48] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[14:48] <bgc> badbodh, im sorry
[14:49] <kunji> !recovery
[14:49] <kunji> Hmm, not the recovery I was looking for
[14:49] <badbodh> for cli apps : sudo <command>, for gui apps : gksu <command> write down
[14:50] <badbodh> kunji, everytime? pfft. once you go chmod you never go back
[14:50] <kunji> badbodh: But my user is not supposed to own that folder
[14:50] <badbodh> then just chmod, don't chown
[14:51] <kunji> badbodh: The permissions should not be any more relaxed
[14:51] <badbodh> well ok. you are oppressive :P
[14:52] <huig> cfhowlett, haha i understand it, i am doing the back up. the question was just for knowking if they upgrade would remove my files or not
[14:52] <cfhowlett> huig, no but mistakes happen.  for instance, accidentally formatting /home WOULD wipe the files
[14:52] <kunji> badbodh: Hmm, well, case by case, but I really think this set should be oppressed as the data may be sensitive.
[14:53] <huig> cfhowlett, the upgrade won't automatically install ubuntu on the partition i already have for ubuntu or do i have to specify it this time too?
[14:53] <cfhowlett> huig, an upgrade *should* use the existing partitions
[14:54] <conorMcGregor9> is keys.gnupg.net offline?
[14:54] <huig> cfhowlett, that is what i also expect. did not happen when i upgraded mac osx
[14:54] <badbodh> bgc, lost in the woods ?
[14:54] <kunji> My last few upgrades have been mostly problem free, hopefully yours as well huig.  They do take longer than a fresh install though :/
[14:55] <huig> kunji, well i also hope that. my last upgrade just destroyed the other partitions and removed my files
[14:56] <bgc> badbodh, ok im ready to reboot
[14:56] <badbodh> tatatat, share pastebin first
[14:56] <conorMcGregor9> is it possible to move the side panel?
[14:56] <bgc> badbodh, do u want to check anything
[14:57] <badbodh> yes bgc
[14:58] <xangua> conorMcGregor9: if you mean unity launcher, no
[14:58] <bgc> badbodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11714533/
[14:58] <badbodh> ok, pray and reboot
[14:59] <bgc> badbodh, :D:D
[15:03] <trollstation> Ubuntu is fucking wank hahaha jokers
[15:03] <badbodh> kick in 3...2...1...
[15:03] <trollstation> No
[15:03] <badbodh> :/ double standards
[15:06] <badbodh> bgc, still no luck ?
[15:07] <bgc> badbodh, http://imgim.com/img_20150614_180101.jpg
[15:07] <bgc> badbodh, laptop is burning :D
[15:07] <badbodh> woops, recovery mode then.
[15:07] <badbodh> time for the nuke option
[15:07] <badbodh> M
[15:09] <bgc> badbodh, recovery ? how can i recovery
[15:09] <badbodh> bgc, press M like it says
[15:10] <bgc> badbodh, i pressed s :(
[15:10] <badbodh> no problem
[15:10] <badbodh> will take longer, that's all
[15:10] <bgc> ok i will try now
[15:11] <badbodh> open terminal , "sudo mv /etc/fstab-copy /etc/fstab" this will restore your original fstab
[15:11] <badbodh> BGL, ^
[15:11] <badbodh> OH HE'S GONE
[15:13] <al2o3-cr> can anyone tell me what version of LUA comes with 15.04?
[15:13] <InterNIC> badbodh: What have you done?
[15:14] <badbodh> looks like he will go to recovery all by himself
[15:14] <jbnlosh> my laptop randomly drops wifi connection , and then it needs 2-3 minutes to reconnect
[15:15] <badbodh> InterNIC, he'll be back :D
[15:15] <jbnlosh> its really annoying
[15:16] <InterNIC> jbnlosh: have you tried disabling the wifi, then re-enabling it? Sometimes that works to settle it down.
[15:17] <jbnlosh> yeah i did , doesnt help
[15:18] <InterNIC> Broadcom I guess?
[15:19] <racar> InterNIC, jbnlosh i have a Broadcom and some stability issue. Didn'T find any solution but for now if i have 2 network adapter, it looks like the first one is stable but the second one not, so at least, i always have one working.
[15:20] <jbnlosh> nope im not using broadcom , whatever that is :D
[15:21] <ikonia> how do you know you're not using it if you don't know what it is
[15:24] <QwertyDragon> al2o3-cr on my Lubuntu 15.04 these are available:The program 'lua' can be found in the following packages: * lua5.1 * lua5.2 * lua50
[15:25] <al2o3-cr> QwertyDragon: thanks, that what i needed to know :)
[15:26] <jbnlosh> ikonia guess i would be atleast know something abut it if its on my computer
[15:27] <ikonia> jbnlosh: no you wouldn't
[15:27] <ikonia> hence why "I don't know what that is"
[15:28] <ikonia> it seems stupid to say you are / are not using something when you don't even know what it is
[15:29] <jbnlosh> well what is it , and how can i check am i using it then?
[15:30] <ikonia> it's a chipset of your network card
[15:30] <ablest1980> anyone get unity update?
[15:30] <ikonia> what update ?
[15:30] <ikonia> ablest1980: why don't you state your real question, as people will be doing different things on different versions
[15:30] <ablest1980> nvm
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> jbnlosh  paste this in a terminal... paste the outcome here   gbachot@ubuntu-laptop:~$ lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network | grep controller
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> oops
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> this: lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network | grep controller
[15:33] <jbnlosh> MonkeyDust:  02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:b723]
[15:37] <mekhami> any weechat users? I'm getting really strange behavior on weechat (compared to very simple from os x)
[15:38] <jbnlosh> im on webchat , nothing strange
[15:41] <jak2000> hi all
[15:41] <darthanubis> hi
[15:41] <JonnyClox> *facerubs* All of a sudden my system decided it was going to boot 1400x1050 instead of 1920x1080 for no reason and not give me the option to change. Any ideas why? Running KDE.
[15:41] <jak2000> how to disable, my server sleep, i dont want the server sleep, tahnks
[15:41] <JonnyClox> Hi there.
[15:43] <mekhami> jbnlosh: not webchat, weechat =P
[15:43] <Kmor> Hi. If I browse the internet and send requests to webservers - the answers from the webservers reach my system although I don't have an open port. Which program is managing this?
[15:44] <maziar> when i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ?
[15:44] <alumno__> hola
[15:44] <TJ-> Kmor: You're incorrect. Your system opens a socket and makes a continuous connection to the server's listening port until your system decides it doesn't need to ask for more data.
[15:45] <Kmor> TJ-: But which program does this connection tracking by default?
[15:45] <maziar> when i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ?
[15:46] <chebit> hola
[15:46] <TJ-> Kmor: The web browser opens a local socket on an ephemeral port number (a 'random' port) and makes an outgoing connection to the HTTP server's port 80. Once the connection is established the web browser sends Requests and the serve sends Responses.
[15:46] <jak2000> chebit any advice?
[15:47] <chebit> :) let me read the question
[15:48] <Kmor> TJ-: Yes, I know how it works. What I mean: Which module/program/process is handle this?
[15:48] <chebit> lazy server .)
[15:49] <chebit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47311/how-do-i-disable-my-system-from-going-to-sleep
[15:49] <chebit> the server is like the owner, lol
[15:49] <TJ-> Kmor: The web browser!
[15:50] <BuzzardBuzz> chebit -> lol
[15:50] <maziar> when i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ?
[15:51] <BuzzardBuzz> install app from repo might work better
[15:51] <timbozeman> wow, htpc in ubuntu is hard. Can't seem to get a decent resolution. Most of the solutions on google say to use modelines or xrandr, but none seem to be respected by nvidia
[15:51] <TJ-> maziar: Is there something wrong with the version of nginx in the Ubuntu archive?
[15:52] <ltk> how to don't display the "Quit:xxx  xxx" messages?
[15:52] <maziar> TJ-, i want to compile it frome source , for openresty
[15:52] <SchrodingersScat> ltk: depends on your irc client, can search for removing join/parts
[15:53] <TJ-> maziar: Then you need to ask the nginx developers if the build fails; your pastebin suggests a problem in the nginx build script
[15:53] <jak2000> friends, pls how to disable, my server sleep, i dont want the server sleep, tahnks
[15:53] <maziar> TJ-, its not nginx problem its ubuntu problem , if you dont know the solution please let other person answer
[15:54] <BuzzardBuzz> jak2000 your solution was already posted by chebit, did you not read it?
[15:54] <TJ-> timbozeman: if you need to manually specify modelines that indicates the monitor is not providing EDID data to the system, or incorrect EDID. Is that the issue you're facing?
[15:54] <jak2000> BuzzardBuzz yes but isnt correct
[15:54] <BuzzardBuzz> the faq is wrong?
[15:55] <mekhami> in gnome-terminal, with weechat, it seems gnome-terminals keybindings are overriding the ones that i should have in weechat. is there a way to let the terminal application keybindings override gnome-terminals?
[15:55] <TJ-> maziar: I'm an Ubuntu developer and I've read your pastebin. I know what I'm talking about. Your problem is "Makefile:932: recipe for target 'Makefile' failed"
[15:55] <jak2000> BuzzardBuzz: <chebit> the server is like the owner, lol
[15:55] <Kmor> TJ-: But UDP for example is stateless. So, is netfilter doing connection tracking?
[15:55] <maziar> TJ-, then pkease let some one who no the answer , answer me
[15:55] <timbozeman> TJ-:  I think so. 1080i was the setting I used in windows, but that doesn't seem available. 1920x1080 has overscan
[15:56] <TJ-> maziar: My point is, your issue is not an Ubuntu support issue, it is nginx specific.
[15:56] <TJ-> timbozeman: Are you using the nvidia proprietary driver? What does "xrandr -q" report (can you pastebin it) ?
[15:56] <maziar> TJ-, no i dont accept your oponion
[15:56] <maziar> when i want to install application from source on ubuntu i get this error : http://pastebin.com/Pnndva1Y ,,,, can any body please help me ?
[15:57] <ikonia> maziar: he is correct
[15:57] <ikonia> maziar: you are custom building software - the build is not happening
[15:57] <ikonia> debug the build
[15:57] <TJ-> ikonia: Thanks :)
[15:57] <ehem> hey guys I dont know if you can help me, I'm using Mint but their IRC channel seems to be very spacious.
[15:58] <ehem> when i move to a new workspace I want to see the name of it, currently its only doing that when i navigate using "Ctrl+Alt+Arrows", and not "Alt+[number]" which i set in the keyboard -> shortcuts settings
[15:58] <ikonia> ehem: please take it to the mint channel
[15:58] <TJ-> jak2000: Is there anything in the server's logs to indicate why it is going to sleep? I'd check '/var/log/auth.log" for commands being issued, "/var/log/kern.log" and "/var/log/syslog" - look at the reports timestamped just before the server goes to sleep, you might find some clues.
[15:59] <ehem> ikonia: i couldnt get an answer from there.
[15:59] <ikonia> ehem: then wait for an answer in there
[15:59] <c0mbra1n> hai
[15:59] <jak2000> ok TJ- thanks i checked
[15:59] <jak2000> i check and return
[15:59] <ehem> ikonia: how long?
[16:00] <ikonia> ehem: as long as it take
[16:00] <ikonia> we don't support mint here
[16:00] <ehem> ikonia: what if no one answers, can i ask here then?
[16:00] <ikonia> no
[16:00]  * TJ- books a table at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, just for ehem :)
[16:00] <ikonia> mint is NOT supported here
[16:00] <ehem> ikonia:why not?
[16:01] <ikonia> ehem: because this is ubuntu support
[16:01] <timbozeman> TJ-: I tried the proprietary driver for a day or so then switched to a current open source version. Here's the xrandr -q output http://pastebin.com/4McLkyD9
[16:02] <TJ-> timbozeman: so this pastebin result is obtained whilst using nouveau?
[16:03] <BuzzardBuzz> i would guess that you can get good mint support in the PCLOS channel for your question ehem
[16:03] <BuzzardBuzz> texstar would help you
[16:04] <timbozeman> TJ-: that pastebin is with nvidia binary driver 346.72 (open source)
[16:04] <TJ-> timbozeman: That output suggests the monitor should be able to select 1920x1080@60Hz, but it does have an option for @24Hz ... is that your problem, it only selects @24Hz if you select 1920x1080 ?
[16:05] <ehem> BuzzardBuzz: wel there are only 8 people in there but I asked anyway.
[16:05] <TJ-> timbozeman: Oh, OK. I'd hope  nouveau would show the same; shouldn't make a difference
[16:06] <timbozeman> TJ-: correct. I get a black screen selecting 1920x1080@60hz thorugh the nvidia-settings UI and 24hz looks bad. Selecting 1920x1080 @ 60.1 with xrandr seems to work, but doesn't stick and has overscan
[16:06] <maziar> ikonia, can you help me about this problem ?
[16:07] <timbozeman> TJ-: I got it to look right with 1280x720 and some viewport settings in xorg.conf, but it was laggy video so that's probably not right either
[16:07] <TJ-> timbozeman: That suggests a problem with the monitor mis-reporting EDID... can you pastebin the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" which might show us any mode-reporting issues
[16:07] <IP92> where can I set the default profile for my terminal?
[16:08] <bgc> badbodh, i came
[16:08] <reisio> IP92: profile?
[16:08] <badbodh> bgc, you're alive!
[16:08] <IP92> reisio, yes, when right clicking inside terminal, there's the profiles
[16:08] <TJ-> timbozeman: Is the monitor connected on a pure HDMI interface all the way, or is it HDMI to DVI-D or HDMI to DisplayPort?
[16:08] <bgc> badbodh, yes
[16:08] <IP92> I've got the default and one another, how can I make the other one default?
[16:08] <timbozeman> TJ-: HDMI all the way
[16:08] <bgc> in recovery there is no change
[16:08] <conorMcGregor9> i have an application i downloaded, it just sits in a folder, i usually run with ./filename, is it possible to add this app to the launcher?
[16:09] <TJ-> timbozeman: OK, let's look at that Xorg.0.log thewn
[16:09] <reisio> IP92: for gnome-terminal?
[16:09] <IP92> reisio, yes
[16:09] <BuzzardBuzz> xrandr --newmode "1920x1080"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[16:09] <BuzzardBuzz> xrandr --addmode Virtual1 1920x1080
[16:09] <BuzzardBuzz> xrandr --output Virtual1 --mode 1920x1080
[16:09] <badbodh> bgc, no problem just "sudo mv /etc/fstab-copy /etc/fstab" and changes will be reverted
[16:10] <IP92> reisio, nvm, found it
[16:10] <bgc> badbodh, ok i copied now im rebooting
[16:10] <badbodh> reboot and get back, i just learned uid= doesn't work with ext4
[16:10] <bgc> badbodh,  :D
[16:10] <badbodh> so we both are learning :P
[16:11] <bgc> badbodh,  :D
[16:11] <reisio> IP92: gj
[16:11] <timbozeman> TJ-: tyvm for looking into this! pastebin.com/jtvpmA5f
[16:12] <TJ-> timbozeman: The xrandr output you showed looks wrong to me, in that every mode being offered except 1920x1080 is based on VESA SVGA modes with 4:2 aspect. I'd expect a clean HD monitor to offer modes like 1680x1050 and 1280x960 and so on
[16:12] <timbozeman> http://pastebin.com/jtvpmA5f
[16:12] <TJ-> timbozeman: Aha! "(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): The EDID for SONY TV (DFP-1) contradicts itself: mode"
[16:13] <timbozeman> rawr
[16:13] <BuzzardBuzz> :)
[16:13] <timbozeman> TJ-: good call :)
[16:13] <bgc> badbodh, ok everything turned back
[16:13] <TJ-> timbozeman: Now lets have the exact model of that Sony TV
[16:14] <bgc> badbodh, any other solution
[16:14] <badbodh> so your drive is back to /media/data ?
[16:14] <timbozeman> TJ-: It's a sony bravia 50 inch back projection type, should I get a serial number?
[16:14] <bgc> badbodh, yes media data
[16:15] <TJ-> timbozeman: The exact model number; those brand names Bravia and sizes aren't usually enough. The serial number sticker will usually have model number code too
[16:15] <IP92> for some reason my ls doesn't show any colors anymore. anyone knows why?
[16:15] <badbodh> bgc, do "sudo chown -R <username> /media/data" and "sudo chown -R <username> /media/data/*"
[16:15] <TJ-> timbozeman: E.g. KDF-50E2010
[16:16] <badbodh> replace <username> with whatever your name is, example "sudo chown -R bgc /media/data"
[16:16] <timbozeman> TJ-: KDF-50E3000
[16:16] <TJ-> timbozeman: I suspect the issue is the TV only supports 720p HD not full 1080p HD
[16:17] <TJ-> timbozeman: OK, the manual says I'm wrong on that! That's helpful (for you)
[16:17] <timbozeman> :D
[16:17] <badbodh> bgc, no need to reboot this time. but this is a 'rude' command :P
[16:17] <bgc> badbodh, ok then
[16:17] <badbodh> now open your folders
[16:17] <bgc> badbodh,  :D :D :D
[16:18] <bgc> badbodh,  thnx a lot :D :D :D working ;)
[16:18] <badbodh> bgc, but if you create another user account, that account may not be able to access media/data
[16:19] <badbodh> in that case you need chmod commands, i don't completely understand them but there are guides in web
[16:20] <bgc> badbodh,  ok im single user no need any other user thnx for everything :)
[16:20] <badbodh> np
[16:20] <ikonia> maziar: no - you're running on debian. not ubuntu, so you are not supported here, please don't ask again
[16:20] <TJ-> timbozeman: I'm going to hazard a guess here based on the EDID info. Either your TV is an incorrectly badged 720p model *or* the firmware in it is shared with the 720p model *and/or* the 1920p/i modes it offers are tuned for digital cinema device modes (blue-ray players) not PC modes. That would explain the overscan.
[16:21] <timbozeman> TJ-: internally right? not in like a way I could see through a menu option or something?
[16:21] <TJ-> timbozeman: If you're able to test it on Windows and it works with 1080p correctly, there's a Windows tool (I forget it's name - something like 'powerline') that can extract the modelines the Windows driver uses so you can manually add them to the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a "Monitor" section
[16:22] <TJ-> timbozeman: correct, internally, in the TVs firmware.
[16:23] <bgc> badbodh, is there any program to create wifi ap,hotspot ?
[16:23] <maziar> ikonia, is there any diffrent beetween debian and ubuntu ?
[16:23] <ikonia> yes
[16:24] <badbodh> bgc, in control panel>network>wifi>create a hotspot button
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> maziar  if ubuntu were exactly the same as debian, it would be called debian
[16:25] <maziar> ok professorz , no one of can help me ?
[16:25] <TJ-> timbozeman: Look at comment #39 of this forum post. It might help you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003099&page=4
[16:25] <bgc> badbodh, but my internet comes from wifi
[16:25] <bennypr0fane> Hej, If I want to shh into a device over a usb network connection, how do I make sure it uses the usb network instead of the ethernet when I run the ssh command?
[16:26] <timbozeman> TJ-: thank you
[16:26] <badbodh> bgc, then you need to figure out the wifi router, it should have a booklet/manual or something ?
[16:27] <TJ-> timbozeman: It looks like you've some work ahead but that #39 description perfectly describes your issue so I'd rate the chances of a fix based on that at higher than 75%
[16:28] <mik__> !list
[16:30] <TJ-> timbozeman: in case it helps, I think this is the Windows tool: http://www.geocities.ws/podernixie/htpc/modeline-en.html
[16:30] <bgc> badbodh, default hotspot just supported wired connections but it is not possible to have wired network do u know any other custom program to make hotspot from wifi
[16:30] <timbozeman> TJ-: I'll try that first! thank you!
[16:32] <badbodh> bgc, i don't understand the question. do you want your computer to create wi-fi hotspot, or the router to create it
[16:35] <bgc> badbodh, from computer
[16:36] <badbodh> bgc, you are using ubuntu unity ?
[16:36] <TJ-> timbozeman: Strangely, that model's User Guide specifications page 49 says, for the inputs, "HDMI: Video: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, PC timing " - note the PC timing! Maybe the TV menu *does* have an option to change the input type?
[16:36] <lungaro> I want a quick and fast way to graph network bandwidth. Is there some tool out there that does this for a desktop?
[16:36] <lungaro> all I know of is ganglia, cacti, etc that are annoying to setup. I was hoping for a "desktop" one that's easy to use
[16:38] <TJ-> lungaro: Etherape maybe?
[16:38] <lungaro> i'll check it out. Its just annoying that the graphing is seperate from the collection from the desktop perspective
[16:38] <SchrodingersScat> !info iftop | depending on what you mean by graph
[16:39] <lungaro> I want a graph in a webpage, just like a simple mrtg
[16:39] <timbozeman> TJ-: it has an option to do wide, full, zoom. I think the full option is the 1 to 1 pixel thing? (no clue really)
[16:39] <ioria> !info BandwidthD
[16:39] <al2o3-cr> !info slurm
[16:40] <lungaro> you da man!
[16:40] <al2o3-cr> !info speedometer that nice :)
[16:40] <al2o3-cr> !info speedometer
[16:40] <TJ-> timbozeman: looks like you'll have to experiment
[16:41]  * timbozeman puts on his lab coat
[16:42] <SatanSlut666XXX> Does the truth hide in logs?
[16:42]  * TJ- is off to test another bisected kernel
[16:42] <teward> anyone have a guide to enforcing certain 'file create' settings for a folder, such that user:group is always defined for new files, rather than UserThatCreated:group ?
[16:54] <hydrian> Ello all
[16:56] <hydrian> I've got an issue. I have an old printer who driver doesn't work with Ubuntu >= 12.04
[16:56] <hydrian> I need to install 10.04.
[16:57] <hydrian> When I go to install 10.04, I get an error that it can't download any current kernel. I'm guessing that the deb repository moved.
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> hydrian  yes, because 10.04 os eol, no lo longer available
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> is*
[16:59] <darthanubis> 10.04 for printer support? That does not sound like a plan at all
[17:00] <hydrian> I'm just setting it as VM. The driver is i386 only. So an RPi is out the question.
[17:00] <hydrian> I need a cups server so I can cloud print to it. To replace the printer it will cost me at least 300+
[17:00] <darthanubis> whats the printer model?
[17:00] <hydrian> Brother HL-4040CN
[17:01] <jParkton> plug it into a toaster
[17:01] <jParkton> not a cup
[17:01] <jParkton> :P
[17:01] <kevin_> Hello does anybody know how to work with GRUB?
[17:02] <hydrian> I have the lastest release of the driver. The driver prints but the color levels are all off. If I run the test pages or with a windows driver, they print fine.
[17:02] <hydrian> The printer was EOLed in 2010.
[17:03] <hydrian> Setting up an old OS is free vs buy an new printer.
[17:03] <darthanubis> !ask | kevin_
[17:05] <darthanubis>  hydrian not very good support for that model in linux
[17:06] <hydrian> darthanubis: I know. But it was a great price at the time when I bought. It has been a good printer up until now.
[17:07] <hydrian> $200 USD for a color networked laser printer that supported linux was insanely good in 2009
[17:08] <hydrian> Either way... Brother hasn't updated the driver.
[17:10] <Ioyrie> Brother did not bother
[17:10] <c_nick> although windows questions but when running xcopy from batch job files are not getting copied http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715334/
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> c_nick  sure you're in the right channel?
[17:14] <hydrian> Ioyrie: I know. the HL-4050 used a standardized scripte (BrightScript). The 4040 was a one off and used some proprietary code.
[17:16] <leni> Hello, I'm experiencing an issue with internet on 15.04 as of yesterday (I think it's related to an update). My connection works on my other OS, I can ping my router, and I can ping Google's DNS server, but when I load a page from Firefox or Chrome it says it couldn't connect to the DNS servers. It appears others might be having this issue as well, I found this guy with the same problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/636340/15-04-updat
[17:17] <IP92> my tab completion suddenly stopped working for apt-get
[17:17] <IP92> in terminal
[17:18] <TJ-> leni: Is the PC using Wireless or Wired Ethernet?
[17:18] <leni> TJ-: Wired. Using DHCP; it has an IP address from my router and I can even ping 8.8.8.8, just no actual domain names.
[17:19] <hydrian> leni: DNS issue then
[17:19] <TJ-> leni: So, DNS. Is it using NetworkManager?
[17:20] <leni> TJ-: I believe so, can't recall. I haven't swapped any packages out so whatever is default for 15.04
[17:21] <TJ-> leni: OK, tell us if the dnsmasq process is running using this: "ps -efly | grep dnsmasq.*NetworkManager'
[17:21] <leni> TJ-: alright. i'll have to reboot, give me a second
[17:22] <TJ-> leni: hold on!
[17:23] <TJ-> leni: If you're rebooting the PC to test we can give you a temporary workaround so you have DNS to make diagnosis easier
[17:23] <leni> TJ-: could you clarify the mismatching quotes? double quote at the beginning single quote at the end?
[17:23] <leni> TJ-: alright
[17:23] <TJ-> leni: Sorry! I enclose commands in double quotes ... but forgot to put the closing quote on that line!
[17:23] <leni> TJ-: No worries, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.
[17:24] <TJ-> leni: I'm going to give you a quick overview of how DNS resolution is supposed to work so you can tackle this intelligently
[17:24] <leni> TJ-: I have a vague understanding.. upset my uni didn't have a networking course available when I was there haha.
[17:25] <TJ-> leni: NetworkManager operates its own private instance of dnsmasq (a local caching DNS server). When NetworkManager manages a DHCP interface it uses "dhclient" to obtain the IP address, gateway, DNS servers, from the DHCP server. Then it should pass the DNS server IPs received to dnsmasq to use.
[17:26] <TJ-> leni: The system's "/etc/resolv.conf" (which says where to ask for DNS lookups) will point to that instance of dnsmasq which is usually "nameserver 127.0.1.1"
[17:27] <TBotNik> All: Noticed a couple things that was wondering if anyone has solution resources on? 1.) Google's javascript, now using HTML5 memory cache no longer allows multi-user logins, 2.) Craiglist only allows 5 minutes of operation, then shuts you down for 15-30 min, before you can work again, 3.) Ubuntu/Kubuntu 14.04 is still unstable, cannot get any of my 8 machines to be/work the same!  All help appreciated
[17:27] <TJ-> leni: That file will be updated from time-to-time by NetworkManager *but* there is a time window whereby you can manually change that file and NetworkManager won't immediately update the file
[17:28] <TJ-> leni: So, you can (repeatedly) write to that file a valid DNS server (such as Google  DNS) whenever NetworkManager changes it. You'd use the command "echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf"
[17:29] <TJ-> leni: So, when you reboot to test if you have that command on-hand you can get DNS working from a terminal and use that command whenever you lose DNS resolution because NetworkManager has updated that file
[17:29] <TJ-> leni: In terms of diagnosis, the key thing is to provis us with a pastebin of the file "/var/log/syslog" where NetworkManager writes logs of everything it does
[17:31] <TJ-> TBotNik: I've not seen any unstable behaviour in Kubuntu 14.04; what specifically have you experienced?
[17:32] <leni> Awesome. Thanks! I'll be back in a minute :)
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> TBotNik  scroll down, "how vagrant benefits you", is it useful http://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/why-vagrant/index.html
[17:32] <callooo> hi  all
[17:37] <dsfv> hi, im on another distro i want to create bootable usb stick with 14.04 but it doesn't work with dd if=img of=/dev/sdb it produces corrupt stick, its bootable, but only to bootloader not kernel, it failes due corrupt kernal image
[17:37] <TBotNik> TJ-: Work machine, corrupted "System Monitor" when I migrated from 12.04 to 14.04 and have found no way to recover that.  Gives XML error.  It also will not load TeamViewer, but was having that problem under 12.04 before the upgrade!
[17:37] <TBotNik> TJ-: Laptop has Apache errors and will not load any site or file with "index.*".  It also will not sync at all on Dropbox!
[17:38] <TBotNik> TJ-: Desktop here and Laptop both have Network Manager problems
[17:39] <leni> TJ-: I'm back... it appears that yes, /usr/sbin/dnsmaq is running...
[17:39] <TBotNik> TJ-: None of the machines will sync MySQL
[17:39] <TJ-> leni: That's good news if its the private instance operated by NetworkManager :)
[17:40] <TJ-> TBotNik: let's stick in #kubuntu else it gets confusing
[17:40] <leni> TJ-: It says the process is owned by "nobody" it looks like, does NetworkManager have a user?
[17:41] <leni> TJ-: and as far as /var/log/syslog goes should I grep it for relevant stuff or just paste the whole file?
[17:41] <TJ-> leni: paste it please; it'll be far quicker :)
[17:42] <TJ-> leni: dnsmasq owner nobody is correct. The main way of identifying it is a private instance for NetworkManager is the command line has 'NetworkManager' in its options several times :)
[17:44] <TJ-> leni: E.g: pastebinit <(ps -efly | grep dnsmasq.*NetworkManager) gives me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715519/
[17:44] <leni> TJ-: Yes, it does. I can pastebin you the output of that ps command if you would like. Here's the paste of my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715513/
[17:44] <TBotNik> TJ-: I installed via online for the Work machine all others via Live DVD.  Also noticed the recover mode on boot from the LiveDVD, which was on all previous version is no longer an option, so you only 2 options, is format a new instance of OS or destroy all your data via full disk format!  Not acceptable at all!!!!!
[17:45] <TBotNik> TJ-: Cursor (Mouse) is now so totally crapped on this Desktop, that selection of any text is impossible!
[17:45] <leni> TJ-: It looks pretty similar, here's mine if you're curious http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715545/
[17:47] <TJ-> leni: That looks fine... lets see what the syslog looks like
[17:48] <leni> TJ-: sounds good!
[17:50] <compdoc> anyone else having problems with the mirrors running apt-get update or upgrade?
[17:51] <SomeGuy77> Hey, anyone know why ssh-rsa doesn't work on ubuntu 12 server? - ie given a ssh-rsa <somekey> <user@host> I get command not found, how to fix this, or a workaround? Thanks.
[17:52] <Bashing-om> compdoc: ttp://ftp.utexas.edu trusty is good .
[17:52] <compdoc> Some packages could not be authenticated
[17:56] <win_> heya guys
[17:56] <win_> i got a shiny new dell m3800 precision
[17:56] <win_> ubuntu 14.04.2 on it
[17:56] <win_> and it's a mess graphics wise
[17:56] <compdoc> seems to be ok now
[17:57] <win_> running nvidia open source 352 atm, does anyone know what i can do?
[17:57] <win_> i hit black screen a lot after boot
[17:58] <prodigel> Hey all. I'm having font issues in google-chrome all of a sudden. I've noticed them earlier in Kde, but awesomewm kept working well. Until today that is. Fonts look squarish, and small. Is this a common issue?
[17:58] <win_> if i prime-select intel which i am doing currently compiz freaks at me
[18:02] <TJ-> leni: how are you doing with getting that syslog pastebinned?
[18:03] <BeerLover> Can anyone help me with the no sound issue?
[18:03] <leni> TJ-: oh, sorry, haha the link is up there a ways lemme find it
[18:03] <Bashing-om> win_: 14.04 does not have support for latestest hardware, what is the graphics card(s) ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' ? Maybe a proprietary driver will serve better ?
[18:03] <leni> TJ-: should be this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715513/
[18:03] <BeerLover> I connected my ASUS laptop to my TV via HDMI. I shut down my laptop afterwards and now sound is not working.
[18:04] <BeerLover> It was working via audio jack for some time, but then it also stopped working.
[18:04] <BeerLover> The output devices in audio settings is empty
[18:05] <kaseoga_> im trying to create a pendrive with windows 7 bootable with ubuntu but it-s imposible
[18:05] <kaseoga_> im using gparted to format to fat32 and then unetbootin to load iso to pen
[18:05] <kaseoga_> and nothing, when i restart, grub always
[18:06] <TJ-> leni: mmmm ... reading
[18:07] <TJ-> leni: look to line 9228 onwards... that's the latest DHCP entries. Looks to me like ou might have an issue with IPv6 taking preference. Is your network operating dual-stack  (IPv4 and IPv6) ?
[18:08] <leni> TJ-: no, most of my network hardware is so old it doesn't support IPv6, is there some way I can just disable it?
[18:08] <TJ-> leni: That looks to be the issue... you see that line "whoopsie[724]: [11:35:59] Cannot reach: https://daisy.ubuntu.com"
[18:08] <TeraJL> hi there guys, is the 3 years old bug that is making me not being able to use unity fixed? I have problems with my right arm, so it's hard for me to reach the arrows so I can switch desktops.... I usually set alt+1...4(to switch to desktop #), and alt+shift+1...4(to send window to desktop #), but if you go to shortcuts and change the "send window to desktop #" shortcut it simply does not work
[18:09] <TJ-> leni: If I do "dig -t A daisy.ubuntu.com" I get back  correct IPv4 record. However, if I do "dig -t AAAA daisy.ubuntu.com" I get back an empty record
[18:11] <TJ-> leni: DNS record type AAAA is an IPv6 host IP ... which isn't being returned. So, my suggestion would be to focus on disabling IPv6... first step would be in the NetworkManager Connection editor for the connection, on the IPv6 tab, setting it to disabled/ignored or link-local
[18:12] <leni> TJ-: I set is to ignored. Now, when I cat /etc/resolv.conf, it still says nameserver 8.8.8.8, so can I force NetworkManager to rewrite that file somehow to see if it worked?
[18:12] <BeerLover> Can anyone help me with the no sound issue?
[18:12] <BeerLover> The output devices in audio settings is empty
[18:12] <BeerLover> It was working via audio jack for some time, but then it also stopped working.
[18:12] <jacob_> waz good broo
[18:12] <jacob_> waz good
[18:12] <jacob_> i aml rap beats
[18:13] <TJ-> leni: disable and reenable the connection should do it
[18:13] <win_> thanks Bashing-om trying the 331 propritry drivers now
[18:13] <jacob_> do u guys  like limms
[18:14] <jacob_> mpk akai
[18:16] <leni> TJ-: Still says nameserver 8.8.8.8. The network configuration dialog says that the automatically configured one is 75.75.75.75
[18:17] <TJ-> leni: OK... you may have found us a clue as to what is going on. Let's look in detail at the connection config itself.
[18:17] <callooo> hello
[18:17] <TJ-> leni: First, is the connection shared by all users according to the check-box in the General tab of the connection editor?
[18:18] <leni> yes
[18:19] <leni> TJ-: ipv4 is set to automatic, and this is what the information dialogue looks like: http://i.imgur.com/3MyPfFe.png
[18:19] <TJ-> leni: OK... lets interrupt that line of thought I have something interesting. Look at line  9177 of the syslog pastebin. That tells me the /etc/resolv.conf entry somehow got hard-coded. Lets fix that.
[18:20] <compdoc> leni, your network isnt gigabit?
[18:20] <TJ-> leni: "sudo ln -sf /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf"
[18:20] <leni> compdoc: no, old hardware :) mobo is, but everything else is 100mb
[18:21] <leni> TJ-: alright, done
[18:21] <TJ-> leni: and working backwards see line 9157
[18:21] <TJ-> leni:  that and the following lines tell us the original cause. NM can't 'talk' to its private dnsmasq instance for some reason
[18:21] <leni> TJ-: this guy here? "<warn> dnsmasq not available on the bus, can't update servers."
[18:22] <TJ-> leni: Yes, and  about 5 lines later "...failed"
[18:22] <BeerLover> My sound only works on login screen
[18:22] <BeerLover> nowhere else
[18:22] <BeerLover> Any idea how to fix that?
[18:22] <leni> TJ-: interesting. I'm blaming ubuntu updates :P worked Friday no problem! :)
[18:24] <TJ-> leni: me too... lets see if we can figure out why... show me "pastebinit <(cat '/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired connection 1')"
[18:26] <TeraJL> if someone with the latest version and fully updated could test if the shortcut for sending window to workspace 2 it's working would help me allot
[18:28] <ioria> TeraJL, yep
[18:28] <N3sh108> hello!
[18:28] <N3sh108> I have a question concerning my ubuntu 14.04
[18:28] <Bashing-om> !ask | N3sh108
[18:29] <TeraJL> ioria: you can set for example alt+shift+1 for workspace 1 and 2 for 2,and it sends the window around?
[18:29] <N3sh108> Bashing-om: I know, I thought I could phrase is quickly but it's taking longer than planned :P
[18:29] <BeerLover> !patience
[18:29] <TJ-> leni: That command I gave you - you'll probably need to prefix sudo to cat: " ... <(sudo cat /etc/..."
[18:30] <N3sh108> for some reason, I am getting 'Connection activation failed - (32) Not authorized to control networking'. Even when inserting a USB stick, it doesn't allow me to do it from the GUI because I am not root.
[18:30] <ioria> TeraJL, i can send terminal window to workspace 2 with the shortcut, no problem
[18:30] <BeerLover> My sound only works on login screen
[18:30] <N3sh108> How do i tell Ubuntu that my user can do that stuff (only user apart from Guest)
[18:30] <BeerLover> Any idea how to fix that?
[18:30] <BeerLover> The output devices in audio settings is empty
[18:31] <leni> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715757/
[18:32] <TJ-> leni: Good. nothing to surprise us there
[18:32] <TJ-> leni: show us "/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf" please
[18:32] <codepython777> I'm looking for a nice ui (web based) to manage 10s of ubuntu boxes deployed on hardware/vms. Any suggestions? (Mostly need configuration management + status)
[18:33] <leni> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11715773/
[18:36] <TJ-> leni: Again, good.
[18:37] <ioria> if i Ignore/Disable IPV6 the  Default Route in Connection Information should be empty, right ?
[18:38] <Bashing-om> TJ-: leni Excuse if I am barking up the wrong tree, but " managed=false "; does this not mean that networking is controlled from " /etc/network/interfaces " rather than Network-manager ??
[18:39] <TJ-> leni: I have to go to dinner now. My suggestion is to reboot the PC and test again., we may be diagnosing a fixed issue. If not, look at the resulting syslog again starting at the end of the file and working backwards until you find NetworkManager entries from where it started to bring up the connection, as per the exampels I've already pointed you to.
[18:40] <TJ-> Bashing-om: No, the opposite. See "man NetworkManager.conf":  "... If  set  to  true,  then  interfaces listed  in  /etc/network/interfaces  are  managed  by  NetworkManager ..."
[18:40] <Bashing-om> TJ-: :) thanks for that !
[18:41] <BeerLover> The output devices in audio settings is empty
[18:41] <BeerLover> Please help!
[18:41] <dora> Morning.
[18:43] <dora> I have an external USB drive Clonezilla can see to give me the device name and mount but not to choose to back up on. Reason could possibly be drive name is "Seagate Expansion+", not a legal linux name.  How do I change the nameof the drive?
[18:43] <leni> TJ-: Thanks for all your help!
[18:43] <dora> None of my efforts to do that have taken.
[18:45] <Decoy_Platypus> Does the normal Ubuntu Install Live CD start an ssh server?
[18:46] <teward> Decoy_Platypus: no, it shouldn't.
[18:46] <teward> Decoy_Platypus: why?
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Decoy_Platypus  you have to install it
[18:46] <N3sh108> any idea about my problem? ;(
[18:46] <teward> ^
[18:46] <teward> Decoy_Platypus: what MonkeyDust said, you have to install it
[18:46] <Decoy_Platypus> teward: ok, thanks
[18:48] <dora> N3sh108, I did just enter, but I can't find your problem.
[18:49] <N3sh108> for some reason, I am getting 'Connection activation failed - (32) Not authorized to control networking'. Even when inserting a USB stick, it doesn't allow me to do it from the GUI because I am not root.
[18:49] <N3sh108> How do i tell Ubuntu that my user can do that stuff (only user apart from Guest)
[18:49] <N3sh108> for instance, at times I can't seem to be able to tell the computer to shut down
[18:49] <x4Dx5A> N3sh108: does sudo work?
[18:50] <N3sh108> from terminal everything works x4Dx5A
[18:50] <N3sh108> I'm using gnome
[18:50] <N3sh108> if it's useful
[18:50] <HoloIRCUser> Has anyone used planet w/ Linux to tether? I'm not finding good information on it and planet fails for creating hotspot and for Bluetooth.
[18:51] <dora> N3sh108 that sounds like a user properties issue. I'm in middle of workingin gparted so can't explore that with you, but basically you need to edit your user's privileges and group membershihps (which help control his privileges)
[18:52] <N3sh108> mmm ok dora
[18:52] <x4Dx5A> N3sh108: i agree with dora. if sudo works (or with gnome gksudo) with your account but normal gui tasks fail on permissions then you should check your user group memberships.
[18:54] <bob_> t
[18:54] <callooo> hello
[18:55] <N3sh108> thanks, checking now x4Dx5a - dora
[18:57] <N3sh108> my user is part of the following groups:
[18:57] <N3sh108> nesh adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev netdev lpadmin sambashare wireshark - dora, x4Dx5a
[19:04] <bob_> hi! i try to install a plug-in Bimp in Gimp. I download the files, extracted. but im not sure for "make && make install" can someone help ty!
[19:04] <lisbeth> Is it safe to allow a non-rooted account on a server to have a public password over ssh?
[19:04] <lisbeth> I mean nonsudoer
[19:07] <lisbeth> Wow, it's sort of quiet. Does anybody know any good channels for system administrators?
[19:08] <compdoc> looking to hire some?
[19:08] <lisbeth> No I just have newb questions
[19:09] <j1n3l0> hello all. i am having issues installing ubuntu 15.04 from dvd on my laptop. tried several times today. it is hanging at this step "creating ext4 file system for / partition #2 of scsi1 (0,0,0) (sda) ...". when i look at the output i see errors like "acpi error: method parse/execution failed ...". any help would be greatly appreciated.
[19:17] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: install the latest available stable bios update for your mainboard, then retry. if this issue persists try installing ubuntu 14.04 instead. you can always upgrade later.
[19:19] <N3sh108> I tried to search stuff but I couldn't find what to do to check the permissions for my user
[19:19] <N3sh108> showing which groups I am in didn't really help
[19:19] <bekks> N3sh108: Whats the exact issue you are trying to solve?
[19:19] <j1n3l0> tomreyn: i don't know how to that i'm afraid.. is there a way to find out what my mainboard is?
[19:20] <tomreyn> lisbeth: how safe it is depends on the quality of the password, of course. generally accounts which allow for ssh password authentication are to be considered to provide a larger attack surface than accountsonly allowing for ssh key authentication.
[19:20] <lisbeth> tomreyn, the password is very safe, but it it would be public
[19:21] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: you could open your computer and look for it. but that's usually easier said than done. do you have any working operating system there?
[19:21] <lisbeth> everyone knows it
[19:21] <N3sh108> bekks: gnome feels weird - I seem to not have enough priviledges for wireless (I got Not authorized to control networking) and to mount USB sticks
[19:21] <N3sh108> I can do all that from terminal though
[19:21] <N3sh108> so I feel it's a problem related to gnome and my user
[19:21] <j1n3l0> tomreyn: not anymore
[19:21] <tomreyn> lisbeth: huh, what's the puepose of using a password if you'll publish it?
[19:21] <bekks> N3sh108: Which Ubuntu are you using?
[19:21] <ioria> j1n3l0, what you had before on that laptop ?
[19:21] <N3sh108> bekks: at times, I also seem unable to reboot/shut down the computer
[19:22] <N3sh108> 14.04 (Trusty)
[19:22] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: and that worked fine?
[19:23] <j1n3l0> tomreyn: originally a windows laptop, i installed ubuntu 32 bit 11.04 (i think), upgraded each year to 14.10, then today tried to install 15.04 64 bit. so last working version was ubuntu 14.10 32 bit.
[19:23] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: do you know the model of that laptop? i didn't realize you said it was a laptop until now. you can ignore what i said about th emainboard
[19:23] <PCatinean> Help i'm going crazy
[19:23] <N3sh108> any idea bekks?
[19:23] <PCatinean> after X time, I cannot click on anything on my browser
[19:24] <PCatinean> everything is working great but the browser window is just untouchable
[19:24] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, lenovo ideapad z570
[19:24] <bekks> N3sh108: Which groups is your user in?
[19:24] <N3sh108> nesh adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev netdev lpadmin sambashare wireshark - bekks
[19:25] <ioria> j1n3l0, did you select automatic partition ?
[19:26] <j1n3l0> ioria, yes i did
[19:26] <ioria> j1n3l0, erase disk and install ?
[19:27] <j1n3l0> ioria, yeah. several times. it keeps getting stuck
[19:28]  * ObrienDave suggests trying it manually using the "something else" option
[19:28] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: BIOS Version 45CN38WW (2011-11-01) is the latest: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/ideapad-z-series-laptops/ideapad-z570
[19:28] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: which one you have now should show on the pre-boot screen
[19:28] <lisbeth> tomreyn, just adds a slight layer of security. I am actually trying to figure out how to sandbox this guest and I think the best way is to edit it's path
[19:28] <tomreyn> that's unless you have some "full screen logo" / graphical boot enabled
[19:29] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, so u suggest i try installing that and then install ubuntu again?
[19:30] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: it's worth a try. but maybe there's something easier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[19:30] <tomreyn> try to hit F6 on the ubuntu boot screen , then select acpi=no
[19:30] <tomreyn> i mean acpi=off sorry
[19:31] <Kaliz> how can I share my mobile broadband connection with other computers and phone devices?
[19:31] <ioria> j1n3l0, i don't want to be catastrophic , but if it fails creating the filesystem could be the hd
[19:31] <Johnny_Linux> or a bad burn
[19:32] <ioria> yep
[19:32] <tomreyn> lisbeth: it's really not easy to sandbox users who have shell access. there are so many ways to elevate access. you'd better consider using something like containers.
[19:32] <Johnny_Linux> i dont think its the bios
[19:32] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, ioria: thanks, i will try ur suggestions and come back if unsuccesful
[19:32] <ObrienDave> j1n3l0, have you checked md5 of the iso before burning?
[19:33] <tomreyn> lisbeth: or even para virtualization.
[19:33] <Johnny_Linux> burn another copy @ 10-15 speed
[19:33] <ObrienDave> try 4x max
[19:33] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: there's a "check disc for defects" option to rule this issue out
[19:33] <tomreyn> also on the boot menu
[19:34] <tomreyn> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1354180067.png
[19:34] <ioria> j1n3l0, download a Lubuntu iso (very small),  go to UUI(linuxpendrive) and try it
[19:34] <conorMcGregor9> how can i get a taskbar at the bottom with the opened windows?
[19:34] <Johnny_Linux> actually, a usb stick would be better
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> conorMcGregor9 in Unity you can't, try lxde or xfce, or install cairo-dock
[19:35] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, trouble started because i did not have a gui on boot. had just a black screen. i knew the "try" option was first so i just hit "enter"
[19:35] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, hopefully it appears this time
[19:36] <j1n3l0> ioria, will try that next
[19:36] <conorMcGregor9> MonkeyDust, then ill lose the side panel right?
[19:37] <ioria> j1n3l0, if it's the hd, remember that you can always use an external  usb hd
[19:37] <tomreyn> j1n3l0: take note of the first sentence of the wiki page i pointed you to: As the CD boots, the user can gain access to the advanced page and its options by pressing any key when the small logo appears at the bottom of your screen:
[19:38] <tomreyn> so press a key when ubuntu boots, that's before it enters the graphical mode.
[19:38] <j1n3l0> tomreyn, thanks
[19:39] <tomreyn> welcome, good luck :)
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> conorMcGregor9  ah, you want both... then try cairo or another dock... 14.04 has 'plank'
[19:40] <ex0r> Hello, could somebody here please help me fix a ubuntu problem? I have ubuntu15 installed, and to enable rdp I installed MATE, and now when I try logging in at startup, using the ubuntu default login type, it kicks me back out to the login prompt. All I can do is select the mate login.
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> conorMcGregor9  15.04 has 'plank' (typo)
[19:41] <conorMcGregor9> am on 14.04 :/
[19:41] <conorMcGregor9> where can i view all the plugins?
[19:42] <conorMcGregor9> on debian i could use extensions.gnome.org
[19:42] <conorMcGregor9> doesnt seem to work on ubuntu
[19:42] <tomreyn> ex0r: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unity
[19:43] <ex0r> tomreyn, - does mate uninstall unity?
[19:43] <smallmouse> hoping someone can assist i have a file I have on my machine I need to install.  When I unzip I get two folders and on .sh file .  How can I install this ?  cnijfilter-mp250series-3.40-1-deb.tar.gz is the name of the original zip file.  Software manager is not recognising this.
[19:43] <ex0r> it says unity is already installed
[19:43] <tomreyn> ex0r: that's my guess. i dont think mate is supported by default, or is it?
[19:43] <ex0r> I don't know, I had to install it so I could RDP into my desktop machine
[19:44] <ex0r> at least that's what the guide I followed said
[19:44] <tomreyn> that's not actually related
[19:44] <johnsmith> is there an IRC for people using Elementary OS
[19:44] <johnsmith> ???
[19:44] <ex0r> Installing MATE is what messed up the login screen
[19:44] <ex0r> and im just trying to restore it
[19:45] <conorMcGregor9> smallmouse, is the .sh file for the install?
[19:45] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: yes it appears so
[19:45] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: but how do i execute this ? thanks
[19:45] <ObrienDave> right click the .sh and execute
[19:45] <tomreyn> ex0r: hmm apparently mate is a supported package in 15.04, i wasn't aware. so it *should* be compatible to unity. unless the how.to you used instructed you to break stuff.
[19:46] <conorMcGregor9> or type './file.sh' in the terminal
[19:46] <tomreyn> ex0r: what's the how-to you used?
[19:46] <smallmouse> ObrienDave: run in terminal, display or run.  I have tried all of them but not sure if anything happened.
[19:46] <conorMcGregor9> open a terminal instead smallmouse
[19:46] <ObrienDave> ^^^
[19:46] <ex0r> tomreyn, - I would have to find it again, it's been a few weeks since I used it. I've been out of town and just got back to diagnose the problem, but everything was done through apt-get
[19:46] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: ok opened
[19:47] <conorMcGregor9> cd to the directory and use './file.sh'
[19:47] <ex0r> is there a way I can diagnose what's causing the issue? If I click the circle next to my name, it brings up a bunch of options, one is 'Ubuntu Default', but when I select it, and log in, it makes the login noise and takes me back to the login screen
[19:47] <conorMcGregor9> it should give some feedback
[19:47] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: check to make sure the /tmp directory is writeable
[19:48] <ex0r> x4Dx5A, Why would it be for one desktop environment and not another?
[19:48] <tomreyn> ex0r: you can check the log files in /var/log, specifically the Xorg ones
[19:48] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: ok in directory
[19:48] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9:  the file is called install.sh
[19:48] <conorMcGregor9> so type ' ./install.sh '
[19:48] <conorMcGregor9> without quotes
[19:49] <tomreyn> ex0r: the logs should tell you how things failed when you tried to login to the default session
[19:49] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: An error occurred. The package management system cannot be identified.
[19:49] <tomreyn> conorMcGregor9: you are currently instructing someone to potentially hose their system
[19:49] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: deb is for ubuntu ? or is it rpm ?
[19:49] <tomreyn> it'd be good to add a word of warning to that
[19:49] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: i just remember seeing that before.
[19:49] <ex0r> I can see the log file, but no idea how to read it
[19:49] <conorMcGregor9> .deb can be used with ubuntu
[19:49] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: take a look at this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop
[19:49] <conorMcGregor9> but theres not usually a install.sh
[19:50] <ex0r> hmm I did find this error:
[19:50] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: there are 2 folders there packages and resource and then an install script
[19:50] <conorMcGregor9> tomaw, i can only asume they know what their downloading
[19:51] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100236101.html
[19:51] <tomreyn> ex0r: please use a pastebin if you're going to paste more than 2 lines
[19:52] <conorMcGregor9> smallmouse, is there a .deb file in there somehwere?
[19:52] <ioria> smallmouse, rpm, i think
[19:52] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: yes 4 other .deb in the packages
[19:53] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: done i can open them in the software centre i think i am ok, thanks for the help
[19:53] <ex0r> http://pastebin.com/4vnuzV1f
[19:53] <ex0r> not sure if thats related or not
[19:54] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: ah no they are not opening properly in software centre
[19:54] <ReVoLt112> Does anyone have a Lenovo Flex 2 Pro? My Ubuntu 15 does not play sound via HDMI port
[19:54] <ex0r> x4Dx5A, I looked through that page before, wasn't able to find a solution
[19:54] <conorMcGregor9> yeah with your last message sounds like u have a problem with your packet manager
[19:55] <smallmouse> conorMcGregor9: any ideas on fixing this ?
[19:56] <conorMcGregor9> u will have to trace what the problem is more
[19:57] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: just to check (sorry if you already said this) did you uninstall MATE or are you keeping MATE?
[19:57] <Bashing-om> ex0r: A thought; do "you" own /home ' ls -al / ' and in /home do "you" own .ICEauthority and .Xauthority ' ls -al /hone ' ( at login ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console) ?
[19:57] <ex0r> x4Dx5A, I would like to uninstall it, but want to make sure my normal login works first as i can only log in via MATE
[19:58] <Bashing-om> ex0r: typo ls -al /home .
[19:59] <ex0r> Bashing-om, . and .. are owned by root, my directory is owned by me
[19:59] <ex0r> and same with .Xauthority and .ICEauthority
[19:59] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: have you looked at this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/515697/get-back-the-original-ubuntu-desktop-after-removing-mate
[20:00] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: you can also try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/146137/login-screen-loops-unless-you-login-as-guest
[20:02] <Bashing-om> ex0r: Good, and .Xauthority and .ICEauthority in your /home directory are also owned by "you" ?
[20:02] <ex0r> yes
[20:03] <ex0r> I just removed MATE using sudo apt-get remove mate-desktop-environment, and than used sudo apt-get autoremove to remove the left over stuff
[20:04] <Bashing-om> Next thought, is ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ' See if you can reset to default .
[20:04] <michael__> hi
[20:04] <ex0r> using that command does nothing
[20:04] <ex0r> just takes me back to the terminal
[20:04] <michael__> pie
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> michael__: can we help you?
[20:04] <Guest12265> no
[20:04] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop
[20:04] <Guest12265> what happened to my name
[20:04] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm
[20:04] <ex0r> x4Dx5A, neither of those packages are installed
[20:05] <jParkton> autoremove only cleans up packages you no longer need
[20:05] <ex0r> Reword that, none of those 3 packages are installed.
[20:05] <x4Dx5A> ex0r: so then MATE is already unistalled?
[20:05] <jParkton> if it returns and doesnt remove anything then there are no dependencies
[20:05] <ex0r> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[20:05] <ex0r> I am talking about that command
[20:05] <Bashing-om> ex0r: Shotgun approach ? sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ??
[20:06] <ex0r> sure, let's try it
[20:06] <ex0r> its done already
[20:06] <ex0r> it said
[20:06] <regedit> hello
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> regedit: welcome, what can we do for you?
[20:06] <regedit> i am consistently failing to setup a dual boot Windows + Ubuntu
[20:06] <TJ-> Bashing-om: There's another .Xauthority that I found once needed removing to fix looping greeter issues. Check in "/var/run/ligthdm/root/"
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | regedit
[20:07] <regedit> lotuspsychje: why that is so kind of you good sir :)
[20:07] <TJ-> Bashing-om: correcting for my typos of course!
[20:07] <ex0r> TJ-, - I can't get into root
[20:07] <ex0r> that folder, rather
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> regedit: is your machine an uefi system?
[20:08] <TJ-> ex0r: No, I mistyped it :)
[20:08] <regedit> here is my most latest boot-repair output: paste.ubuntu.com/11716231
[20:08] <regedit> lotuspsychje: aha, bulls-eye question
[20:08] <regedit> lotuspsychje: well
[20:08] <TJ-> ex0r:  in "sudo ls -la /var/run/lightdm/root/"
[20:08] <regedit> lotuspsychje: my BIOS is set to UEFI enabled
[20:08] <regedit> and Windows installs fine
[20:08] <ex0r> TJ-, - shows . .. and :0
[20:08] <regedit> however during ubuntu installation i get a strange error
[20:08] <ex0r> but says there are 4 tfiles in there
[20:09] <ex0r> let me see if I can log in now, hold on
[20:09] <ahmed> hi
[20:09] <regedit> something to the effect of "...it looks like the other OS on this machine was installed with legacy BIOS and not UEFI..." wtf?
[20:09] <regedit> lotuspsychje: ^
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | regedit
[20:10] <ex0r> Nope still cant log in
[20:10] <ex0r> and MATE is still showing up on the login screen
[20:11] <ex0r> grr this is annoying
[20:11] <tomreyn> ex0r: to list remaining packages which may be related to mate: dpkg -l \*mate\* | grep ^i
[20:11] <ex0r> let me try a restart
[20:11] <ex0r> wow theres a lot
[20:12] <ex0r> can I just do a sudo apt-get remove mate*
[20:12] <Bashing-om> TJ-: UHHH .. nice to know about "/var/run/lightdm/root/" . I sure was not aware !
[20:12] <regedit> lotuspsychje: if I installed windows from a USB drive, does that not prove that I have UEFI working?
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> regedit: make your life easy and single install ubuntu :p
[20:13] <regedit> lotuspsychje: if only Unity engine editor worked on Linux......
[20:13] <tomreyn> ex0r: that'd be 'mate.*'. but whether tis a good idea to do so depends on which packages would be matching. just mate packages, or others, too?
[20:14] <regedit> why does the ubuntu installation think I installed Windows without UEFI?
[20:14] <Bashing-om> ex0r: How about we backup and regroup, Boot to TTY1 and try and start the desktop, see what errors the system reports ?
[20:14] <ex0r> Bashing-om, No idea how to do that
[20:14] <TJ-> ex0r: My first step would be to analyse the log files in "/var/log/lightdm" to determine why the login is failing. I assume lightdm displays its Greeter with the password entry field, you type your password, and it ehaves as if it is logging in and starting your user session, but then drops back to the Greeter?
[20:14] <ex0r> TJ-, - yes
[20:14] <ex0r> only if ubuntu default is selected
[20:15] <tomreyn> ex0r: if you'd like a better idea of why unity is failing, post /var/log/Xorg*.log and ~/.xsession-errors to a pastebin and provide the links here.
[20:15] <TJ-> ex0r: Bashing-om long shot but could this be because the session manager it is trying to start was removed by the installation of Mate? In which case that idea to "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" might solve it
[20:15] <ex0r> TJ- I already did that
[20:16] <TJ-> ex0r: You're ahead of me :)
[20:16] <tomreyn> ex0r: the log excerpt you posted before may already hnit at the cause of the problems you're running into. your graphics hardware acceleration is not working properly.
[20:16] <ex0r> tomreyn, - Correct, but why would installing MATE cause that
[20:17] <ex0r> this desktop ran default ubuntu install since 15.04 was out in beta without any issues, as soon as mate was installed I can no longer use the desktop
[20:17] <ObrienDave> most likely a dependency conflict
[20:17] <TJ-> ex0r: tomreyn That might make sense if the system can't fallback to a non-accelerated mode... but that would cause X to start in safe mode which is very obvious.
[20:17] <regedit> lotuspsychje: how about this: during ubuntu installation, when i configure Ubuntu to install on the 2nd partition (at the bottom of that screen) and it asks me where to install the boot loader or something, what am i actually supposed to choose?
[20:17] <tomreyn> ex0r: why mate would cause this is a miracle tome, too.
[20:18] <TJ-> ex0r: I think removing Mate might help - my guess is that Mate has added entries under /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ and maybe other X config locations
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> regedit: read the uefi link mate
[20:18] <regedit> alright alright i'll actually read something for once...
[20:18] <regedit> :P
[20:19] <ex0r> TJ-, I used sudo apt-get remove mate-desktop-environment to uninstall it, although it still appears in the login screen. It could be because I didnt do a full restart though and only logged out
[20:19] <TJ-> ex0r: That package is just one that depends on others to bring them in when it itself is installed. Removing it won't remove all its dependencies. I think your idea of removing all the mate* packages might help
[20:20]  * TJ- is rebooting for another kernel bisect test
[20:22] <Bashing-om> ex0r: Mind you I do not "know" -yet ; but apt-get remove, will not delete files in the /home directory. maybe this has a bearing, Might be good to take TJ-'s advise and read the logs. Then maybe see what the errors are when attempting a manual startup of the desktop from terminal .
[20:22] <ex0r> okay, I have no idea
[20:23] <ex0r> apt-get says there are no matching packages installed
[20:24] <ex0r> it could be my 3d graphics acceleration, the windows are lagging quite a bit when I drag them across the screen
[20:24] <ex0r> but i have no idea why mate installation would have broken them
[20:25] <kuba7447> whats the best GBA emulator for linux, VBA dosent work.
[20:25] <ex0r> changing the drivers back to the open-source and tested ones to see if that helps
[20:26] <ZdZARDOZ> hola buenas noches
[20:26] <Bashing-om> ex0r: Well, we can look at the logs ' pastebinit /var/log/lightdm ' and ' pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors ' . A place to start .
[20:27] <ex0r> Bashing-om, lightdm/* ?
[20:27] <ex0r> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716386/ xsession errors
[20:29] <ex0r> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716377/
[20:29] <ex0r> thats lightdm.log
[20:30] <Bashing-om> ex0r: look'n at em // Be back soonest .
[20:30] <ex0r> there is also one for x-0.log and x-0-greeter.log
[20:32] <marcaddeo> ame
[20:36] <tomreyn> ex0r: you could try "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[20:36] <tomreyn> this would install the 'recommended' drivers for your hardware
[20:37] <tomreyn> obviously you don't have 3d acceleration at this time, but that's mandatory for unity to work
[20:37] <tomreyn> which can be why it fails to start
[20:37] <ex0r> I dont even know if mate uses 3d acceleration so that may be why I dont have it.
[20:37] <ex0r> I just know that when moving the windows, they are very laggy and new text coming on the screen is too
[20:37] <tomreyn> i don't think mate requires 3d acceleration to work, no
[20:38] <ex0r> Its upsetting me the darn thing isn't working and all i did was install mate.
[20:39] <tomreyn> i concur that's disappointing, this shouldn't happen.
[20:39] <tomreyn> getting desktop environments to play nice next to one another isn't a trivial task, though
[20:40] <tomreyn> my take on ubuntu is: if you want things to work, use an LTS release.
[20:40] <tomreyn> (of course this can mean you'll not have some features available at all)
[20:41] <ex0r> hmm I dont even /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[20:41] <tomreyn> you're missing a verb there
[20:42] <ex0r> even have*
[20:42] <conorMcGregor9> lol
[20:42] <tomreyn> maybe you have gdm installed then
[20:42] <ex0r> I used apt to check for it and it couldn't find it
[20:42] <ex0r> and in the log files, its using lightdm
[20:42] <Bashing-om> ex0r: tomreyn .. Hummm .. We have "  CRITICAL: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion 'session != NULL' failed ' and mate is the issue " +24.96s] DEBUG: Session pid=1955: Greeter requests session mate and "[+25.23s] DEBUG: Session pid=1999: Running command /usr/sbin/lightdm-session mate-session" // Maybe we are at the point to look at lightdm's config files ?
[20:43] <robhol> tomreyn: could've been something like "what is this I don't even" :P
[20:43] <rOm3O> i am having this error at the start ACPCI probe failed
[20:43] <rOm3O> how may i fix it?
[20:43] <rOm3O> i googled it
[20:43] <rOm3O> find that there is some nividia driver
[20:44] <tomreyn> ex0r: i think the way forward is still what has been suggested a while ago - removing remaining mate packages
[20:44] <rOm3O> my graphic card is Intel 82865G Grapnics controller
[20:44] <tomreyn> ex0r: ...then making sure you have working 2d/3d acceleration via fglrx
[20:44] <x4Dx5A> tomreyn: it certainly doesn't look like mate was fully unistalled...
[20:44] <ex0r> tomreyn, I am trying to do so, I know for a fact, I installed it with dpkg or aptitude, and although dpkg shows that there are remaining packages, aptitude doesnt
[20:45] <ex0r> so now I have no idea how to remove the remaining packages
[20:46] <tomreyn> whoops, ctrl-q is not ctrl-f
[20:46] <Bashing-om> rOm3O: Most likely not an issue; see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2275310 .
[20:46] <ex0r> tomreyn, I am trying to do so, I know for a fact, I installed it with dpkg or aptitude, and although dpkg shows that there are remaining packages, aptitude doesnt. So now I have no idea how to remove the remaining packages.
[20:46] <ex0r> hmm dpkg now says no packages found as well
[20:47] <ex0r> ex0r@justin-computer:~$ dpkg -l \*mate*\ | grep i
[20:47] <ex0r> dpkg-query: no packages found matching *mate*
[20:47] <tomreyn> ex0r: please show the output of: dpkg -l '*mate*'
[20:48] <ex0r> let me pastebin it
[20:48] <ex0r> http://pastebin.com/mqHkb2Jm
[20:49] <tomreyn> ex0r: so you still have plenty of mate related packages installed
[20:49] <ex0r> can I run a dpkg command to remove them all? apt-get says none can be found
[20:50] <conorMcGregor9> theres a shortcut to show desktop?
[20:51] <tomreyn> ex0r: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get purge --remove '^mate.*' '^libmate.*'
[20:51] <conorMcGregor9> tomaw, whats the ^ do there?
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> conorMcGregor9  I was away... in 14.04, you can install cairo-dock
[20:52] <conorMcGregor9> tomreyn*
[20:52] <tomreyn> matches beginning of package name
[20:52] <conorMcGregor9> yeah thanks MonkeyDust
[20:52] <ex0r> using that command brings me to another prompt, like its awaiting more params
[20:53] <tomreyn> ex0r: can we see that?
[20:53] <ex0r> ex0r@justin-computer:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get purge --remove '^mate.*' '^libmate.*
[20:53] <ex0r> >
[20:53] <tomreyn> you missed the trailing '
[20:53] <ex0r> just forgot to copy it
[20:53] <ex0r> its there
[20:54] <ex0r> hmm it went that time
[20:54] <ex0r> looks like its removing them now finally
[20:54] <conorMcGregor9> how can i make a desktop shortcut to an executable in a folder?
[20:54] <ex0r> im logged into mate though, not sure how thats gonna work
[20:54] <conorMcGregor9> the executable requires other files in that folder to run
[20:55] <Bashing-om> TJ-: update: ex0r :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716377/ ; mate is not un-installed. He is working on it .
[20:55] <tomreyn> ex0r: your dektop will likely fail shortly
[20:55] <ex0r> ha
[20:55] <ex0r> which means I will no longer be able to IRC
[20:55] <ex0r> hmm nope it went
[20:55] <tomreyn> ex0r: well not that soon, but soon
[20:56] <ex0r> lol
[20:56] <ex0r> mate is uninstalled now
[20:56] <tomreyn> ex0r: i wasn't aware you're currently using irc on this computer
[20:56] <ex0r> ill jump on my laptop, give me 2 secs
[20:56] <tomreyn> good plan there
[20:57] <conorMcGregor9> theres a way to ungroup the windows when alt + tabbing?
[20:57] <ex0r> Okay, whats the next step?
[20:57] <tomreyn> ex0r: restart lightdm
[20:58] <ex0r> using sudo service lightdm restart I am now sitting at a black screen
[20:58] <tomreyn> ex0r: sudo service lightdm restart
[20:59] <tomreyn> whoops, well let's try installing unity again
[20:59] <ex0r> okay
[21:00] <tomreyn> ex0r: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity ubuntu-desktop
[21:00] <ex0r> how do I get off this black screen?
[21:00] <tomreyn> ex0r: ctrl-alt-f1
[21:00] <ex0r> hmm nope
[21:00] <ex0r> ill restart and hit escape at grub
[21:00] <bekks> Try booting using nomodeset
[21:01] <bekks> !nomodeset | ex0r
[21:01] <tomreyn> bekks: it used to work, but i guess it might still help
[21:01] <ex0r> im booting into recoveryt
[21:02] <ex0r> says both are at the newest version
[21:02] <TJ-> ex0r: Bashing-om So ... "CRITICAL: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion 'session != NULL' failed"
[21:03] <tomreyn> ex0r: you ran it with --reinstall ?
[21:03] <ex0r> yes
[21:03] <ex0r> wait no, sorry
[21:03] <ex0r> just did
[21:03] <ex0r> okay its donew
[21:03] <ex0r> done*
[21:04] <tomreyn> ex0r: too fast. can i see input and output pleasE?
[21:04] <ex0r> its an 8 core processor with 32 gigs of ram... it doesnt take long to install anything
[21:05] <ex0r> i dont have a way to show the output
[21:05] <ex0r> input was sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity ubuntu-desktop
[21:05] <TJ-> ex0r: Please try "sudo rm /var/cache/lightdm/dmrc/ex0r.dmrc"
[21:06] <ex0r> TJ-: no such file
[21:06] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Yeah, caught that too . OP advised. awaiting results after mate purge, and attempt to re-install the ubuntu desktop . In progress at this time .
[21:07] <TJ-> ex0r: Bashing-om OK, that's one less then. That file usually contains the Session to use and might be set to a non-existent session
[21:08] <ex0r> restarting after reinstalling desktop and unity, let me see if its fixed
[21:08] <tomreyn> ex0r: there was less than a minute between "just did" and "okay its done". it should have reinstalled about 190 packages on your hard disk. even with these PC specs i dont think it would be that fast.
[21:09] <ex0r> tomreyn: it installed four packages total
[21:09] <tomreyn> but restarting wont make things worse.
[21:09] <ex0r> two, sorry
[21:10] <ex0r> it downloaded a bunch, but only installed two
[21:10] <tomreyn> hmm, maybe it's actually my fault there
[21:10] <tomreyn> let's purge those packages and lightdm before you re-run that command
[21:11] <ex0r> ok
[21:11] <TJ-> tomreyn: "ubuntu-desktop" is only a placeholder it doesn't contain much itself. --reinstall won't force that package's dependencies to be installed too
[21:11] <TJ-> ex0r: The next change to try is to move aside the user-specific config values that are stored in the user directory. Login at a VT then do "mv $HOME/.cache $HOME/.cache.backup;    mv $HOME/.config $HOME/.cofig.backup" then try to login from the Greeter. If that works we can look at the entries in the user config to identify the cause.
[21:12] <TJ-> ex0r: correct my spelling mistake of "cofig.backup" if you do that :)
[21:12] <tomreyn> TJ-: right, that's my mistake there, i wasn't sure about the dependencies
[21:13] <tomreyn> ex0r: maybe try TJ-'s approach, it can be better than mine.
[21:13] <ex0r> doing it now
[21:14] <ex0r> although now im getting stuck at trying to mount my sd card reader
[21:14] <osman> #newbiecontest
[21:15] <tomreyn> ex0r: that's needed for?
[21:15] <ex0r> tomreyn: nothing, its installed in my desktop. Im not getting the errors anymore, just a screen that says 'starting version 219'
[21:15] <ex0r> with a blinking cursor
[21:16] <ex0r> im about ready to insert the damn live cd and reinstall the damn thing, this is ridiculous.
[21:17] <tomreyn> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[21:17] <ex0r> yep, just sitting here.. blinking cursor, not moving at all
[21:17] <tomreyn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/614198/starting-version-219-bug-after-the-15-04-update
[21:17] <tomreyn> ctrl-alt-f1 should get you a login
[21:19] <ex0r> k i am logged in
[21:19] <tomreyn> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[21:19] <ex0r> says /usr/sbin/lightdm
[21:20] <tomreyn> okay. the message can actually be ignored
[21:21] <ex0r> okay, but it doesnt proceed past that point
[21:21] <ex0r> it sat at that screen from the time I told you it was doing it until you told me how to get to a login screen
[21:21] <tomreyn> did you do what TJ suggested, yet?
[21:21] <ex0r> yes
[21:22] <tomreyn> okay purge, then reinstall (2 steps) lightdm
[21:22] <tomreyn> actually purge, then install lightdm
[21:23] <ex0r> apt-get install --purge lightdm?
[21:24] <tomreyn> sudo apt-get purge '.*lightdm.*' && sudo apt-get install lightdm
[21:24] <ex0r> its going
[21:24] <ex0r> done
[21:25] <tomreyn> got anything graphical, yet?
[21:25] <ex0r> im still in the terminal window
[21:25] <tomreyn> ctrl-alt-f7
[21:25] <ex0r> nope
[21:25] <ex0r> still at the starting version 219 screen
[21:25] <tomreyn> back to f1 then
[21:26] <ex0r> with the error: /dev/sdc: No medium found error
[21:26] <ex0r> k
[21:26] <tomreyn> TJ-: any suggestions?
[21:26] <tomreyn> lightdm doesn't seem to start even after reinstalling it
[21:26] <tomreyn> after purge + install, that is
[21:27] <makara> hi. I've just installed 15.05 on a Dell Vostro and the networking icon doesn't display in the taskbar
[21:27] <ex0r> it says on that page, for that guy anyway, it took a while to boot up, let me leave it sit for a few
[21:27] <makara> networking is on and wireless is active
[21:27] <miheerdew> Does anyone know a way to sync iphone/ipad in Ubuntu 14.04? More specifically I would like to sync app data. Has someone used itunes with wine successfully for this?
[21:29] <ex0r> nope
[21:29] <ex0r> nothing so far
[21:29] <ObrienDave> reboot?
[21:29] <ex0r> i did
[21:29] <ex0r> takes me back to the screen with nothing
[21:29] <xangua> miheerdew: short answer is use a windows install(real or virtual)
[21:29] <ex0r> ?nomodeset
[21:29] <tomreyn> ex0r: to put this whole thing into contect: this is taking so long because you followed a how-to which was apparently instructing you to do stuff that's not supported. and we don't have this how-to handy and can only guess bblindly what may be going wrong. either that or the mate packages in 15.04 are not actually compatible to the other desktops, but i kind of doubt that.
[21:30] <ex0r> tomreyn: the guide I used showed how to setup rdp using mate as the desktop. It was a quick 3-4 paragraph guide that used aptitude to install mate
[21:30] <ex0r> and i wish i still had the guide
[21:31] <tomreyn> it could possibly have helped. now you'll need to review log files
[21:31] <miheerdew> xangua: Hmm. I guess that will be the last option. Don't want to buy a windows distribution
[21:32] <ex0r> im looking for it now
[21:32] <TJ-> I take it things aren't going well?
[21:34] <miheerdew> xangua: At some point of time I guess you could do it directly do it using Ubuntu
[21:34] <ex0r> nope
[21:34] <tomreyn> TJ- his greeter isnt starting up
[21:34] <xangua> miheerdew: that would be up to Apple to decide, Ubuntu has been able to mount iOS devices since 2010
[21:35] <tomreyn> TJ-: that's after: sudo apt-get purge '.*lightdm.*' && sudo apt-get install lightdm
[21:35] <ex0r> tomreyn: okay, it was a video tutorial I used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ay7toiJ6k I did this, but I used apt-get install to install mate
[21:35] <ex0r> and then I used the tutorial for the xrdp stuff
[21:37] <TJ-> ex0r: Does a  manual "text" mode (edit GRUB kernel command line) get to a regular VT login? If so, if the PC has networking too at that point, we can use pastebinit to collect information and do controlled tests of starting/stopping the display manager
[21:37] <miheerdew> xangua: I am able to mount it as a storage device, but not able to access the applications folder.
[21:37] <ex0r> TJ-: I can login using ctrl+alt+f1
[21:37] <ex0r> and I can also get in via recovery
[21:37] <tomreyn> ex0r: try this: sudo apt-get install lightdm-greeter
[21:38] <miheerdew> xangua: Donno, when will apple make things simpler.
[21:38] <ex0r> says it has no candidates
[21:38] <TJ-> ex0r: OK ... then at a VT you can do "sudo service lightdm start" and see how it goes. If it fails, you can review the /var/log/lightdm/ log files with 'less' (the system pager)
[21:38] <ex0r> there is aunity-greeter though
[21:39] <ex0r> TJ-: it loads up using that, but it says at the starting version 219 screen
[21:39] <ex0r> stays*
[21:39] <ObrienDave> !info lightdm-greeter
[21:39] <TJ-> ex0r: tomreyn The greeter requires is unity-greeter
[21:39] <ex0r> ?nomodeset
[21:40] <ex0r> !info nomodeset
[21:40] <ObrienDave> nomodeset is a GRUB switch
[21:40] <TJ-> ex0r: "version 219" - what is that from, do we know? maybe the GPU driver?
[21:41] <tomreyn> said to be irrelevant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1432171
[21:41] <ex0r> there was a bug that was posted by tomreyn about it, but they said that its because lightdm isnt used. Mine is using it.
[21:42] <TJ-> ex0r: OK, so that message is the left-over on the VT of systemd startup... nothing to do with X or lightdm, so that tells us that X isn't even starting. That means "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" is the first place to look
[21:42] <TJ-> ex0r: Can you do "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"  ?
[21:43] <ex0r> yup http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716655/
[21:44] <TJ-> ex0r: Well that answers that question! The video drivers have been removed from the kernel and possibly the system started with "nomodeset" too, disabling the DRI
[21:44] <ex0r> why are they removed?
[21:45] <ex0r> I havent touched the kernel
[21:45] <TJ-> ex0r: I have to focus back on my kernel debugging here, but the others should be able to help you solve that issue so you can move on
[21:45] <TJ-> ex0r: Those purges you did maybe forced some packages out. Anyhow, fix those issues so X0rg.0.log looks healthy and you might get on better :)
[21:47] <ex0r> running apt-get install fglrx right now
[21:48] <ex0r> thank you, TJ-  I will see if I can somewhat handle it from here
[21:48] <ex0r> and you too, tomreyn
[21:49]  * tomreyn points out how he suggested running "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" a good while ago
[21:49] <ex0r> I did that earlier
[21:49] <ex0r> and it installed one, but its possible during the other stuff that it removed them again
[21:49] <tomreyn> oh that's good to know
[21:50] <ex0r> nope
[21:50] <ex0r> im back to the login screen, but still cant log in to ubuntu using unity
[21:51]  * ObrienDave ponders if an OS re-install would have been easier
[21:51] <TJ-> ex0r: OK ... is this with the  $HOME/,{cache,config} directories moved ?
[21:51] <ex0r> yes
[21:52] <TJ-> ex0r: right; I think it's time to investigate that xrdp stuff you did since that would be an obvious interference to the session if it is still there
[21:52] <ex0r> it wont even let me log in as a guest
[21:52] <ex0r> it just does that ubuntu drum roll, a black screen, and back to login
[21:53] <TJ-> ex0r: What does this report "apt-cache policy xrdp" ?
[21:53] <ex0r> hold on, booting into recoverty
[21:53] <ex0r> recovery*
[21:53] <azizLIGHT> how do i capture all the notify-send that have been sent? i want to also mirror them to my phone
[21:53] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: I'd suspect you need a dbus listener registered
[21:53] <ex0r> shows 2 entries
[21:54] <bjrohan> Hello all. Up until a few minutes ago, my wifi worked properly (running 14.04). i restarted my computer, and for some reason I am unable to turn wifi on. Any suggestions?
[21:54] <TJ-> ex0r: does it show xdrp is installed right now?
[21:54] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: maybe there is some query i can run to see last notify-sends... and then keep track of it, and when something changes, send the new one to phone
[21:54] <ex0r> yes
[21:54] <ex0r> installed 0.6.1-2
[21:55] <TJ-> bjrohan: did you accidentally move the hardware radio kill switch on the side of the PC?
[21:55] <TJ-> ex0r: Remove it.
[21:55] <ex0r> okay its gone
[21:55] <TJ-> ex0r: OK: "sudo service lightdm restart"
[21:56] <ex0r> gotta restart, I was in recovery
[21:56] <lyndel> hey guys am having a minor problem on my labtop on ubuntu i have a sd card inserted in the SD card reader but ubuntu cant even detect it? on windows its detecting it but asking me to formate which i wont do as o know i have data on that sd card but for now why cant ubuntu detect my sdcard?
[21:56] <lyndel> ubuntu 15,04
[21:56] <TJ-> ex0r: you can just switch to user mode with "telinit 2"
[21:56] <bjrohan> TJ I have an HP that I don't believe has a harware switch. Tuning on the keyboard switch (f12) doesn't do anything
[21:56] <ex0r> doh
[21:57] <TJ-> bjrohan: Get to a terminal command-line and check using "sudo rfkill list"
[21:57] <bjrohan> TJ nothing comes up, it just returns a prompt
[21:57] <ex0r> okay, removing xrdp did not appear to do it. Still doing the same thing.
[21:58] <bjrohan> TJ-: nothing comes up, it just returns a prompt
[21:58] <TJ-> lyndel: The reader device probably needs a kernel driver loading to support it. To identify which you'd need to know the specific chipset used in the reader and its controller. I'm guessing something on the MMC side
[21:58] <TJ-> bjrohan: what make/model is the PC?
[21:58] <TJ-> ex0r: Right, but its removed one large variable from the equation :)
[21:58] <ex0r> yea
[21:59] <ex0r> and for some reason press ctrl+alt+f1 on the login screen takes me to a black screen
[22:00] <lyndel> weird
[22:01] <lyndel> ex0r u getting blank screen at both bootup and after logout? like i did?
[22:01] <ex0r> lyndel: no
[22:02] <lyndel> and your forced to do lightdm restart to get it working?
[22:02] <lyndel> oh ok
[22:02] <bjrohan> TJ-: It is an HP envy dv7
[22:02] <lyndel> Tj sorry just seeing ur reply
[22:03] <lyndel> well the sd card reader is inbuilt into the labtop and i thought ubuntu would install the drivers for it so how can i install it myself?
[22:04] <lyndel> tj also ubuntu is confusing i cant see all my hardware in settings and the drivers is there no program simular to device manager on windows on linux? so i can see a complete list of all my hardware?
[22:05] <lyndel> TJ
[22:05] <ex0r> Ok, im ready to go back to ubuntu 14, im just going to reinsert the livecd and reinstall it
[22:06] <lyndel> tj?
[22:06] <OerHeks> lyndel, lspci should show it, but i know some sdcardreaders are not supported, especially when there are 2 available
[22:07] <ObrienDave> lyndel, type tj then hit TAB to complete the proper nick
[22:07] <lyndel> i did but he quit  but anyway to get the drivers?
[22:07] <Bashing-om> lyndel: Looks like TJ-'s test box crashed " ~TJ@jeeves.iam.tj] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] ' I expect he will return soonest .
[22:07] <lyndel> i really need it to work on linux
[22:08] <lyndel> ok
[22:08] <ObrienDave> ah so, calling the missing TJ- ;P
[22:08] <lyndel> lol
[22:08] <lyndel> but serioulys tho how to get the missing drivers?
[22:11] <ObrienDave> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[22:11] <InterNIC> lyndel: what type of laptop, is it a netbook or what?
[22:11] <lyndel> Dell
[22:11] <lyndel> oh
[22:12] <lyndel> labtop dell
[22:13] <lyndel> InterNIC, sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall dont work
[22:14] <lyndel> guys
[22:14] <InterNIC> lyndel: I didn't tell you that
[22:14] <ObrienDave> it was suggested earlier for another driver issue
[22:16] <lyndel> ohhh
[22:16] <lyndel> InterNIC, lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$  lspci | grep Card
[22:16] <lyndel> 03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b3)
[22:16] <lyndel> lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$
[22:17] <lyndel> so it is detected then?
[22:22] <lyndel> guys?
[22:23] <rOm3O> hi
[22:23] <DWSR> Hey all, I have an application that's complaining about no free disk space, but df is reporting as follows: /dev/sda2                57G   24G   31G  44% /
[22:25] <bekks> DWSR: So whats the full output of "df -h"? Put it into a pastebin please.
[22:25] <EriC^^> DWSR: which application?
[22:26] <DWSR> bekks: http://pastebin.com/K31KsiiY
[22:26] <DWSR> EriC^^: It's the MusicBrainz Server setup scripts. It's dumping info into Postgres.
[22:26] <bekks> DWSR: Did you edit your paste?
[22:26] <lyndel> guys?
[22:26] <DWSR> bekks: Just removed my username from it. That's all.
[22:27] <bekks> DWSR: Your username isnt confidential :)
[22:27] <OerHeks> lyndel, so it is a sdcard partition issue? what does "sudo fdisk -l "say?
[22:27] <DWSR> bekks: Pretend I'm wearing a tinfoil hat.
[22:27] <lyndel> oh wait
[22:29] <DWSR> bekks: Regardless, that's not really relevant. df is pretty clearly showing me that there's free space on /
[22:29] <regedit> so yeah, i absolutely, positively, irrefutably, cannot succeed to setup a Windows + Ubuntu dual boot on this laptoppp.....................
[22:30] <EriC^^> regedit: why not?
[22:30] <regedit> EriC^^: not sure, but some things seem to point in the direction of BIOS/UEFI issues
[22:30] <lyndel> DWSR, http://paste.opensuse.org/27370315
[22:30] <EriC^^> regedit: what happens?
[22:31] <lyndel> OerHeks, http://paste.opensuse.org/27370315
[22:31] <regedit> EriC^^: so bios is set to UEFI enabled. Windows installs OK. then during ubuntu  install, i get a weird warning
[22:31] <EriC^^> regedit: what warning?
[22:31] <regedit> EriC^^: something to the effect of "...the other OS seems to have been installed with legacy bios not UEFI, you might not be able to boot to it..."
[22:32] <EriC^^> oh wow
[22:32] <Ben64> lyndel: what version of linux do you have
[22:32] <franc> slt
[22:32] <regedit> EriC^^: sure enough, after completing install, ubuntu boots fine, but windows is unreachable
[22:32] <DWSR> regedit: Yes. You installed Windows 8 in legacy mode, I would expect.
[22:32] <OerHeks> funny, paste.opensuse .. please use paste.ubuntu.com
[22:32] <EriC^^> regedit: which ubuntu is this?
[22:32] <lyndel> Ben64 ubuntu 15.04
[22:32] <regedit> but did I? UEFI was enabled in BIOS!
[22:32] <DWSR> regedit: Not the only requirement to get Windows 8 to install in UEFI mode. :D
[22:32] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, hold on'
[22:32] <DWSR> (I've tripped up on this as well.
[22:32] <regedit> Kubuntu 15.04
[22:32] <regedit> x64
[22:32] <EriC^^> regedit: are you in ubuntu right now?
[22:33] <Ben64> lyndel: unplug the card, wait 20 seconds, plug the card back in, pastebin the output of "dmesg"
[22:33] <regedit> EriC^^: liveCD yes
[22:33] <regedit> DWSR: oh?...
[22:33] <OerHeks> lydelno partition there, so get a recovery tool like photorec/recuva to see if there is something to see
[22:33] <lyndel> Ben64,  ok wait
[22:33] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:34] <EriC^^> is there any software that can make png's into a gif? openshot can make a video to a png's but how can i make them into a gif?
[22:34] <ObrienDave> animated gif?
[22:34] <regedit> EriC^^: uh.... http://termbin.com/naui ?
[22:35] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: yes
[22:35] <regedit> DWSR: what are the other requirements?
[22:35] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[22:36] <regedit> EriC^^: ok, there are some files listed
[22:36] <lyndel> Ben64, that wont work output is too big to post online too huge
[22:36] <EriC^^> ok, well you're booted in uefi mode right now, but both windows and ubuntu are both installed in legacy mode
[22:36] <DWSR> regedit: http://www.eightforums.com/installation-setup/25561-windows-8-install-uefi-mode.html <-- links for Windows 7 and 8 are in the second or third post down
[22:36] <EriC^^> regedit:
[22:36] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | lyndel
[22:37] <lyndel> i said its too large to paste al get a warning
[22:37] <SubCool> ok, im banging my head over ehre. Can someone help me find softare ro something that i can use to sort my pictures? Their filenames are of the date they were taken. Im looking to have them categorized into folders based on the date (their filename) SHotwell keeps crashing, and picasa is acting up as usual.
[22:37] <EriC^^> regedit: boot into ubuntu normally, and not the live usb
[22:37] <regedit> EriC^^: this particular time round, i tried installing them both in legacy mode (i had read that that could help), still no luck i guess
[22:37] <EriC^^> regedit: you probably need to make a custom entry for windows and you'll be good
[22:37] <Ben64> lyndel: well use a better paste service, not sure why you used opensuse
[22:37] <ObrienDave> lyndel, you did not read the factoid
[22:38] <EriC^^> regedit: when you installed both in uefi mode, only ubuntu booted?
[22:38] <regedit> EriC^^: yup, DWSR seems to be of the opinion that windows did not in fact install as UEFI mode
[22:38] <lyndel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716839/ ?
[22:39] <EriC^^> regedit: it could be so, also the warning message and all, ubuntu is pretty good at picking up the windows .efi file
[22:40] <regedit> so i'm currently reading through the page DWSR linked, see what gives...
[22:40] <ObrienDave> lyndel, see? that was easy ;P
[22:40] <EriC^^> regedit: do you want to reinstall in uefi? or fix it as it is?
[22:40] <regedit> i dont mind resinstalling in UEFI
[22:40] <Scunizi> Will the "hidden" restore partition for Win 7 remain usable after adding 3 additional partitions for an Ubuntu install? The partition is triggered with the F11 key if that makes a difference..
[22:40] <Decoy_Platypus> Guys, update-grub is freezing on me. I recently upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04. Now when I try to run apt-get autoremove to get rid of old kernels, when it gets to the end it tries to update-grub, it freezes after printing that it found Memtest.
[22:41] <ObrienDave> Scunizi, yes as long as your ubuntu partitions are all under an extended partition
[22:41] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, try to use the live usb right now to create a gpt partition table
[22:41] <Ben64> lyndel: doesn't seem like it sees the card
[22:41] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: has the /boot/ partition run out of space?
[22:42] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: good question, i'll check
[22:42] <Scunizi> ObrienDave: cool.. I was going to use an extended partition anyway.. Thanks for the ingo
[22:42] <lyndel> Ben64 what now?
[22:42] <ObrienDave> Scunizi, yw
[22:42] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: if it's removed kernels you'd think there'd be space remaining
[22:42] <Ben64> lyndel: get a usb card reader?
[22:42] <EriC^^> regedit: type sudo gdisk /dev/sdb
[22:42] <lyndel> its inbuilt into the labtop
[22:43] <lyndel> what else do i do to fix this?
[22:43] <EriC^^> regedit: you there?
[22:43] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: looks like I dont have a separate /boot partition, and / has plenty
[22:44] <Ben64> lyndel: does "ls -l /dev/mmc*" show anything
[22:45] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: How about if you run it manually: "sudo update-grub"
[22:45] <lyndel> Ben64, lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$ ls -l /dev/mmc
[22:45] <lyndel> ls: cannot access /dev/mmc: No such file or directory
[22:45] <lyndel> lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$
[22:48] <Ben64> lyndel: doesn't see the card
[22:48] <TJ-> lyndel: Can you show me: "pastebinit <(lspci -nn)" ?
[22:48] <OerHeks> lyndel, so windows does not see it, linux also, try a recovery tool like photorec/recuva to see if there is something to see
[22:48] <lyndel> Ben64, this will work? is it true about ubuntu disabling it by default? http://vasanthkg.blogspot.com/2011/06/howto-read-your-sd-card-with-your.html
[22:48] <lyndel> Tj ur back ok wait
[22:48] <Ben64> lyndel: not true
[22:48] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: same thing. It finds several kernels, then memtest and just sits there
[22:48] <TJ-> lyndel: in and out; debugging kernel builds :)
[22:48] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: That's good! Being able to reproduce it means you can trace it
[22:48] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: wait, this time it worked..
[22:48] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: sorry, I had run it before and it locked up again
[22:48] <TJ-> Decoy_Platypus: The usual cause is the system thinks there is a disk drive connected that has gone away so hangs up waiting for it forever. Does this still happen after a reboot ?
[22:48] <lyndel> Tj http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716874/
[22:49] <TJ-> lyndel: OK, so the PC has a Ricoh R5C552 controller
[22:49] <lyndel> tj yep
[22:49] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: that sounds plausible. This is an old machine that has been dormant for a while. I may have moved a disk from it a while back.
[22:50] <TJ-> lyndel: Mine has a Ricoh R5C822 so we can compare to some extent
[22:50] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: I'll try a reboot now
[22:50] <lyndel> tj lyndel@lyndel-Inspiron-6000:~$  lspci | grep Card
[22:50] <lyndel> 03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b3)
[22:50] <lyndel> ok
[22:50] <regedit> whoops, bad connection over qwebirc...
[22:50] <regedit> EriC^^ / DWSR did I miss anything?
[22:51] <regedit> oh did DWSR disconnect
[22:51] <lyndel> Ben64, u read the site the solution there will work?
[22:51] <TJ-> lyndel: show us "pastebinit <(lspci -s 03:01.2 -nnvvvv)"
[22:51] <EriC^^> regedit: i was saying you could make a fresh gpt partition first, then try installing windows in uefi mode
[22:51] <EriC^^> regedit: are you in the live usb?
[22:51] <Ben64> lyndel: no
[22:52] <regedit> EriC^^: yes i am now in live USB, and I think BIOS is currently UEFI enabled, I *think*....
[22:53] <lyndel> tj that command not working u sure its typed good? pastebinit <(lspci -s?
[22:53] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, do you need any data on the hdd?
[22:54] <regedit> EriC^^: nope
[22:54] <EriC^^> anybody know anything about the png to gif converter?
[22:54] <lyndel> Ben64, read the site tell me if its a ood solution or not
[22:54] <lyndel> good
[22:54] <Ben64> lyndel: pretty sure i said no like thrice already
[22:54] <TJ-> lyndel: The number after the "-s" is the bus number of the device, taken from your pastebin ... try taking 1 'v' off the end :)
[22:54] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:55] <regedit> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/qs6j
[22:56] <ObrienDave> EriC^^, have you tried GIMP?
[22:56] <lyndel> Tj http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716899/
[22:57] <Decoy_Platypus> TJ-: After the reboot I was able to run apt-get autoremove with no problems. Thanks for the help
[22:57] <regedit> EriC^^: if I understand correctly i also have some steps to take for installing windows as UEFI http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html
[22:57] <TJ-> lyndel: good news, the kernel driver is there: sdhci-pci
[22:57] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: nope
[22:57] <lyndel> tj so why it wont detect my card then?
[22:58] <TJ-> lyndel: what type is the card, and what capacity?
[22:58] <OerHeks> lyndel, same reason as your windows didn't detect it?
[22:58] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: any idea where?
[22:58] <EriC^^> regedit: type sudo gdisk /dev/sdb
[22:59] <ObrienDave> EriC^^, nope, let me look
[22:59] <lyndel> tj Samsung mirco SD card windows finds it but wont let me use it unless i format but i wonnt as i know there is data on the card
[22:59] <regedit> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716907/
[23:00] <TJ-> lyndel: Have you monitored the kernel log whilst plugging in the SD-Card, in case there are I/O errors reported?  "tail -f /var/log/kern.log"
[23:00] <EriC^^> regedit: press "o"
[23:00] <lyndel> oh wait
[23:00] <blz> Hello, I just did chmod 750 mydirectory and the file permissions are now set to drwxr-x---.  I thought 5 meant rx (and permissions-calculator.org seems to support this hypothesis).  What am I doing wrong?
[23:00] <TJ-> lyndel: But what type is it? SDHC, SDXC, etc, and what capacity?
[23:01] <bekks> blz: 5 means r+x
[23:01] <bekks> blz: whats your issue with it?
[23:01] <regedit> EriC^^: This option deletes all partitions and creates a new protective MBR. Proceed? (Y/N) I'm guessing confirm? :)
[23:01] <blz> bekks, so shouldnt I have drwxr-xr-x ?
[23:01] <TJ-> lyndel: That Ricoh controller is quite old and may not support the SDXC standard required to read higher capacity cards
[23:01] <regedit> EriC^^: i won't confirm confirmations with you from this point onward, if that works better
[23:01] <ObrienDave> EriC^^, GIMP has an export animated GIF function. i have no clue how to use it
[23:01] <bekks> blz: No. 750 is drwxr-x---
[23:02] <bekks> blz: 755 would be drwxr-xr-x
[23:02] <bekks> !permissions | blz
[23:02] <blz> bekks, oh my god I've been reading file permissions wrongly for years...
[23:02] <blz> good lord...
[23:02]  * blz bangs forehead on table
[23:02] <blz> thanks, bekks
[23:03] <blz> Thank god I'm not a professional sysadmin
[23:03] <rOm3O> lol blz :D
[23:03] <EriC^^> blz: read is 4, write is 2, execute is 1, so read+execute means 4+1=5, first digit is for user, then group, then others
[23:03] <ObrienDave> we would tend to agree ;P
[23:03] <rOm3O> you are so fuffy blz
[23:03] <EriC^^> blz: if there are 4 digits, like 2755, the first digit is for setuid setgid, sticky bit, etc.
[23:04] <bekks> blz: And if there are three additional digits, those are for ACL.
[23:04] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: interesting, how do you get there though, i can't seem to find it
[23:04] <blz> Yeah yeah it all makes sense now.  I was just off-by-one :/  I stupidly assumed the dashes in, say, drwxr-xr-x were separators
[23:04] <blz> but they're not...
[23:05] <EriC^^> regedit: no, confirming is fine
[23:05] <lyndel> Tj http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716921/
[23:05] <EriC^^> regedit: yes press ok to create a new protective mbr
[23:05] <regedit> EriC^^: OK then :) Command (? for help):
[23:05] <EriC^^> ok, press "w" to write the new table
[23:05] <ObrienDave> EriC^^, open an image. file, export as, select GIF, options show animated stuff. iirc
[23:06] <ObrienDave> i'll look again
[23:06] <lyndel> tj is that bad?
[23:06] <TJ-> lyndel: There you go then, that explains it. So... what type is the SD Card and what capacity? If it's larger than 8 or 16GB it may use a revision of the SD specifications the controller can't understasnd
[23:06] <regedit> EriC^^: Final checks complete. About to write GPT data. THIS WILL OVERWRITE EXISTING PARTITIONS!! Do you want to proceed? (Y/N):
[23:07] <EriC^^> regedit: yes
[23:07] <regedit> EriC^^: OK; writing new GUID partition table (GPT) to /dev/sdb. Warning: The kernel is still using the old partition table. The new table will be used at the next reboot. The operation has completed successfully.
[23:07] <lyndel> tj Samsung Micro SD card Adapter with 2GB micro SD
[23:08] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: ah i see, thanks, no idea how to use it too though :>
[23:08] <ObrienDave> your guess is as good as mine ;P
[23:08] <TJ-> lyndel: Does the card have a printed symbol on like "SDHC" or "SDXC" ?
[23:09] <TJ-> lyndel: 2GB card shouldn't be an issue, but the interface might be
[23:09] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, reboot and try to install windows
[23:09] <TJ-> lyndel: Did you say another device is able to read the contents of the card correctly?
[23:09] <lyndel> tj sorry no its not there
[23:10] <EriC^^> regedit: make sure uefi is selected in the bios, and btw how are you installing windows? from usb?
[23:11] <lyndel> tj i never tryed a next device and windows detects it but wont let me use it unless its formated so i know it works
[23:11] <TJ-> lyndel: Windows telling you that means it can't read the card and thinks it is unformatted. Do you have a smart phone that can read the card? I'm guessing right now the card itself is damaged
[23:12] <regedit> EriC^^: good questions, yes USB drive. Actually I need to rewrite the USB drive again now... might need to boot back into ubuntu live for that...
[23:13] <EriC^^> regedit: are you using a live usb for ubuntu? or cd?
[23:13] <regedit> EriC^^: I have the ISO / files of the Windows installation on an external drive, I need to put it on a USB now, should be straightforward from within ubuntu live?
[23:13] <regedit> EriC^^: live USB
[23:13] <regedit> EriC^^: short on devices here, currently it has ubuntu on it, i need to write windows to it...
[23:14] <regedit> EriC^^: i do have nother internal drive though, but I may have just wiped it now too
[23:14] <EriC^^> ok, that means windows should boot into uefi since ubuntu is
[23:14] <n-st> hi, i've got a bit of an issue with the virtualbox-qt package from the trusty-updates repo (after installing the current virtualbox version from oracle's repo):
[23:14] <n-st>  virtualbox-dkms : Depends: virtualbox (>= 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5)
[23:14] <n-st>  virtualbox-qt : Depends: virtualbox (= 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5)
[23:14] <EriC^^> ( i mean without needing to set something in the bios )
[23:15] <regedit> EriC^^: apparently there's more to it http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html
[23:15] <n-st> is there some way to override that incorrect fixed dependency of virtualbox-qt?
[23:15] <EriC^^> regedit: yeah, it's not that straightforward
[23:15] <EriC^^> regedit: i've never done it myself but i was going to once
[23:16] <lyndel> tj wait am trying it on my digi cam
[23:17] <EriC^^> regedit: it should be ok
[23:17] <lyndel> tj a next sdcard does work so maybe it is damaged
[23:17] <ObrienDave> sdcards don't last forever
[23:18] <TJ-> lyndel: I've seen a lot of the older SD cards do that... they can be very sensitive to static discharge
[23:18] <ObrienDave> the one in my phone went into read only mode. had to buy a new one
[23:19] <Flynn> Could anyone help me with a screen brightness problems? I've tried everything and if my charging cable is not plugged in, my screen dims after 10 seconds of no movement without fail. very annoying!
[23:19] <TJ-> ObrienDave: that's when the wear levelling reaches its limit
[23:19] <lyndel> tj thanks alot for your help i guess i have to get a new one this suckss all the data is lost now
[23:19] <TJ-> lyndel: yeah... always backup your backups :)
[23:20] <B0g4r7> EriC^^, you're trying to write a Windows install media to a USB stick?  I did that the other week.  I used unetbootin and it worked for me.
[23:20] <wakennn> hi quick question
[23:20] <EriC^^> B0g4r7: regedit is
[23:20] <B0g4r7> er...yeah.
[23:20] <wakennn> can i create a minimal UEFI installation with Ubuntu?
[23:20] <regedit> oh thanks!
[23:20] <wakennn> the minimal CD is BIOS only
[23:20] <EriC^^> B0g4r7: were you booting it in uefi mode?
[23:20] <EriC^^> not sure if that matters
[23:20] <B0g4r7> EriC^^, I don't know.  Probably not.
[23:20] <TJ-> wakennn: Use the server install media
[23:21] <regedit> EriC^^: rebooting into ubuntu live to write the windows stuff to the drive, hope i survive this... :)
[23:21] <wakennn> TJ-: I looked at it, how does it handle preinstalled ESP from Windows? does it use GRUb2?
[23:21] <B0g4r7> Hmm.  Power just went out here for a couple seconds.  The UPS did its thing and I'm still online.
[23:21] <EriC^^> regedit: :)
[23:22] <wakennn> TJ-: oh and it still can do everything normal Ubuntu can do, right? PPA's, new kernels
[23:22] <TJ-> wakennn: Yes, it's standard GRUB install
[23:22] <lyndel> tj take care and thanks again :)
[23:23] <TJ-> wakennn: About the only difference to minimal is it contains a bunch of server specific packages which you can optionally choose to install
[23:23] <wakennn> TJ-: and does it autodetect and use Windows' ESP?
[23:23] <wakennn> TJ-: and PPA's I can use the same?
[23:23] <wakennn> and get new Kernels/cutting edge this way?
[23:24] <TJ-> wakennn: if the media boots in UEFI mode then it'll install in EFI mode. The ESP doesn't belong to Windows, it belongs to the firmware
[23:27] <wakennn> TJ-: I might need kernel 4.0 for some hardware and don't want any unity/gnome: is server good for this? I see the kernel included in 15.04 is 3.19...
[23:28] <TJ-> !mainline | You can use a mainline kernel
[23:32] <wakennn> should I dd /dev/zero a prvious OS usb or can I dd over it TJ- ?
[23:32] <wakennn> thanks for all your help by the way
[23:34] <Flynn> Could anyone help me with a screen brightness problems? I've tried everything and if my charging cable is not plugged in, my screen dims after 10 seconds of no movement without fail. very annoying!
[23:34] <Hazzah> Hmmm
[23:36] <TJ-> wakennn: Writing to it will overwrite. However, depending on a device's underlying technology if you write all zeros first the device may remap any bad sectors it detects (commonly hard disks use 0 as the 'empty' marker) but NAND Flash uses 0xFF (255) although the controller may flip that so zero is the correct value.
[23:37] <Dydouch> Hey
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[23:40] <Flannel> Sorry about that all.
[23:40] <TJ-> Flannel: you handled it quickly, no need to apologise :)
[23:40] <ObrienDave> ROFL
[23:40] <OerHeks> Thanks.
[23:41] <TJ-> I guess that's what happens when daftykins says "Hello" :)
[23:41] <daftykins> *nod*
[23:41] <ObrienDave> dang it daftykins! ;P
[23:42] <daftykins> i'm sorry, fellow volunteers
[23:42] <TJ-> daftykins: for punishment you can finish off bisecting these kernel bugs I'm chasing :)
[23:42] <Johnny_Linux> woohoo
[23:44]  * TJ- is rebooting to test another kernel
[23:45] <MichaelTiebesl> ?
[23:46] <regedit> EriC^^: uh, don't have the actual windows ISO image handy (I can get it, but maybe I can do without) is it possible to boot windows installation by simply cpying the right files into the drive, and just make the drive bootable or something?
[23:46] <daftykins> only EFI boot can be made via file copy
[23:46] <daftykins> if the EFI boot image file is present :)
[23:46] <Flannel> serenoa: 11.04 is EOL, after things are EOL for a little bit, their archives get removed from the main servers.
[23:46] <regedit> oh
[23:46] <regedit> daftykins: can I make it EFI boot from within ubuntu?
[23:47] <regedit> or do i need to be in windows..... circular dependency...
[23:47] <daftykins> regedit: when you say 'copying the right files' - which do you have handy if not an ISO?
[23:47] <regedit> daftykins: currently i have the files themselves that are within the ISO, were you to mount it
[23:47] <regedit> not the actual original ISO though...
[23:47] <daftykins> win7?
[23:47] <regedit> 8.1
[23:47] <EriC^^> regedit: no, you need to have a recovery disk, and extract that image
[23:47] <regedit> x64
[23:48] <daftykins> regedit: look for /boot/bootx64.efi
[23:49] <regedit> daftykins: i find a bit different: /efi/boot/bootx64.efi, /efi/x64.efi,
[23:50] <regedit> daftykins: but not directly under /boot
[23:50] <daftykins> regedit: my bad yep, i just was checking that. so if you pasted that entire directory tree into the root of a flash drive formatted as FAT, it will boot on an EFI capable system
[23:51] <daftykins> regedit: however if you legally own win8 you can download ISOs direct from MS
[23:51] <regedit> daftykins: yep i know, slow connection though, so trying to survive without...
[23:51] <daftykins> roger that
[23:52] <regedit> ah so it needs to be FAT then? is it possible to put that together from here in ubuntu?
[23:52] <regedit> FAT or FAT32, or either
[23:52] <daftykins> yes, since it involves formatting a drive and copying files :>
[23:52] <daftykins> whether your machine is EFI capable is the more iffy bit
[23:52] <regedit> daftykins: so - my file structure is fine? no need to move around any of those boot efi stuff?
[23:53] <daftykins> possibly. but once you make it, throwing a file here and there isn't much effort
[23:53] <regedit> daftykins: well my BIOS does show a UEFI option, and i have successfully installed ubuntu as UEFI, or i'm pretty sure anyway....
[23:53] <daftykins> heh
[23:54] <daftykins> !efi
[23:54] <daftykins> you can confirm there
[23:58] <regedit> uh, new to formatting under linux here, how do i know which sd** is the disk i'm trying to format with mkdosfs ?
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[23:59] <regedit> daftykins: currently the drive is NTFS and contains that file structure, but can't seem to boot to it...
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[23:59] <regedit> daftykins: does it specifically need to be FAT?
[23:59] <daftykins> regedit: because it's not FAT