[03:19] <Unit193> micahg: Not sure if you were going to snag them, or if one of us should.  But between your change to desktop and a reminder that xubuntu-restricted-* exist, gstreamer0.10 can be dropped from there too I'd think.
[03:20] <micahg> ah, ok, cool
[03:20]  * micahg will take a look in a bit
[03:20] <micahg> also, the ISO seems oversized
[03:20] <Unit193> Awesome, thanks.
[03:20] <Unit193> Yeah, likely due to LO.
[03:20] <micahg> no, I think it has to do with some of the desktop packages switching to python3
[03:21] <Unit193> Ah I was wondering just recently what's holding our ISO on python2, bluesabre usually makes his compatible with both, or easily portable.
[03:21] <micahg> I was going to look into that
[07:25] <pleia2> knome: I added a couple questions to the end of the document for context/intent
[07:36] <pleia2> knome: also, thanks re: distrowatch updates, however that came on your radar :)
[09:07] <pleia2> now that the server static.x.o is on can talk to bzr, updating will be easier \o/ (can even put it in a cron job if we want)
[09:08] <pleia2> on my Sunday I'll spend some time making sure everything is in bzr and repulling everything directly from bzr, unless there are objections
[09:09] <pleia2> a .bzr directory will exist, but I don't think we care
[17:48] <micahg> bluesabre: Unit193: I'm not so sure about updating the restricted addons, other non-xubuntu programs might need the libraries until the whole archive is migrated, do we care?
[17:56] <Unit193> 0.10 is dead, and clementine looks like the biggest user.
[18:09] <micahg> I agree conceptually, but it might result in a few more bug reports until the whole archive is migrated
[18:13] <ochosi> evening all
[18:13] <ochosi> hm, we still have python2 stuff?
[18:17] <ochosi> micahg: do we already know what's pulling in python2?
[18:17] <micahg> no idea, about to look
[18:18] <micahg> apt-offline is one
[18:19] <micahg> apt-xapian-index
[18:19] <micahg> blueman
[18:20] <ochosi> meh, blueman
[18:22] <micahg> gconf
[18:22] <ochosi> https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/19
[18:24] <micahg> gnome-doc-utils
[18:25] <ochosi> blueman gets python3 support with 2.0
[18:25] <ochosi> (which has been released already)
[18:25] <ochosi> (21 days ago, to be exact)
[18:25] <micahg> it's in Debian
[18:26] <micahg> Debian is still building with python2
[18:26] <micahg> I guess I can merge and switch to python3, but it doesn't do us much good until the rest is migrated
[18:26] <ochosi> ofc
[18:27] <ochosi> i'm putting this list on the whiteboard, one sec
[18:27] <ochosi> feel free to fill in more details where you see fit: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development
[18:29] <ochosi> seems like didrocks has started to work on gconf: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/gconf/python3
[18:29] <ochosi> should be fixed in wily already
[18:29] <ochosi> (3 days ago)
[18:35] <knome> pleia2, np; there was that person telling us that system requirements are "too hard to find" - he had wandered to our site via distrowatch...
[18:36] <pleia2> knome: ah, I see the connection now :)
[18:37] <knome> though that doesn't explain anything in his case - anyway, since i bumped into it...
[18:40]  * pleia2 nods
[18:48]  * ochosi tests a new music player (lollypop, has a few annoying depends though)
[18:56] <knome> pleia2, btw, wrote replies on the pad (and added some context in the text itself)
[18:58] <ochosi> knome, pleia2: i think the ssl discussion is up to the two of you, i don't know enough about it (in other words: i trust your judgement)
[18:59] <knome> ochosi, yeah yeah, just wanted you to know what's happening :)
[18:59] <ochosi> good .)
[19:00] <pleia2> knome: oh thanks, I'll have a look
[19:09] <pleia2> knome: oh, shall I social media our shiny new get involved page?
[19:09] <knome> we could do that :)
[19:09] <knome> let's draft a nice blurp
[19:09] <pleia2> ok
[19:10] <pleia2> also, I put the 14M Edubuntu-Xubuntu 14.04 Quickstart Guide pdf from Computer Reach on static.x.o but didn't put it in bzr because I'm a bad person, should I, or would a 14M pdf in the repo ruin your life?
[19:10] <knome> lol
[19:11] <knome> oh btw
[19:11]  * knome facepalms
[19:11] <knome> did you look at the document?
[19:11] <pleia2> it was too big to upload to wordpress
[19:11] <pleia2> yeah, why?
[19:11] <knome> you need to tell them to use our new logo.
[19:11] <pleia2> oh, that
[19:11] <knome> and i guess the new ubuntu logo
[19:12] <knome> and new edubuntu logo
[19:12] <pleia2> I did, but updating this isn't high on their priority list, and I've snagged them to help me with my non-profit
[19:12] <knome> hahah!
[19:12] <knome> what's their source format?
[19:12] <pleia2> I don't know
[19:12] <pleia2> probably something not awesome
[19:12] <knome> if they're willing to share it, point them to send it to me, and i'll look for updating it
[19:13] <knome> don't they have this available on their own website?
[19:13] <pleia2> maybe in a few weeks, I need to stop asking them things :)
[19:13] <pleia2> no, it's on dropbox
[19:13] <knome> i'd imagine that would be a nice thing, somebody else doing them things :P
[19:13] <knome> they just need to send me the source
[19:13] <knome> and i'll return it to them modified with the new logos
[19:13] <knome> well considering i can edit the source format
[19:14] <knome> their website has the *old* logo too
[19:14] <knome> i thikn that's snatched from the old *website*
[19:14] <knome> and their website breaks if you stretch it around :(
[19:17] <pleia2> websites, eh?
[19:17] <knome> well, you *can* do it right...
[19:19] <pleia2> alas, non-profit budgets
[19:19] <knome> i know
[19:35] <brainwash__> any opinions on bug 1459417 ?
[19:36] <brainwash__> "On Microsoft Windows systems, this is properly handled."
[19:55] <knome> i wonder if the locale is designed to hold that kind of information
[19:55] <knome> and yeah, the xkbmaps could handle this
[20:21] <knome> pleia2, so for the social media stuff:
[20:22] <knome> pleia2, Our newly improved Get Involved page makes it even easier to start contributing and help Xubuntu!
[20:22] <knome> just the starting point...
[20:23] <pleia2> that's a good initial post :)
[20:23] <knome> ok, want to change spelling or sth or shall i just tweet?
[20:23] <pleia2> go for it, I'll FB and G+
[20:24] <knome> tweeted
[20:27] <pleia2> others done too
[20:27] <knome> good good
[20:28] <pleia2> knome: oh yeah, so should I add the pdf to the static bzr repo?
[20:29] <knome> let's worry about that later
[20:29] <pleia2> well, now that we have bzr ability on the server I was hoping to switch the static stuff over to the pulled in bzr repo rather than just uploading manually and adding the .pdf manually
[20:30] <pleia2> haven't updated to latest static content changes since I was going to do it all at once
[20:30] <pleia2> but I can wait if we want to worry about it later
[20:32] <pleia2> lunch time with the husband now, bbiab
[20:38] <knome> maybe you can just .bzrignore a directory
[20:39] <knome> then you can keep it unversioned until we decide to add it
[20:39] <knome> (if we decide to)
[21:03] <Unit193> micahg: Oh hey ,since you seem to be around.  https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-eyes-plugin_4.4.4-0ubuntu1.dsc - https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-time-out-plugin_1.0.2-0ubuntu1.dsc or http://pad.lv/ppa/unit193/staging
[21:46] <micahg> Unit193: I;m getting P: xfce4-time-out-plugin: copyright-with-old-dh-make-debian-copyright on the timeout package
[21:47] <Unit193> Yeah it's the old copyright format.
[21:48] <micahg> planning to fix at some point?
[21:58] <Unit193> I had hoped to leave that for the next person, d/copyright files can be a major pain. :/
[21:58] <Unit193> (cdbs has helped me learn to hate them.)
[22:09] <Unit193> If it's needed, I could of course.
[22:10] <micahg> hrm, well, eventually, would be good for getting into Debian
[22:10] <micahg> I can upload without it for now
[22:11] <Unit193> Nothing in wnpp for this one, for the other there's Debian #407380.