[03:19] micahg: Not sure if you were going to snag them, or if one of us should. But between your change to desktop and a reminder that xubuntu-restricted-* exist, gstreamer0.10 can be dropped from there too I'd think. [03:20] ah, ok, cool [03:20] * micahg will take a look in a bit [03:20] also, the ISO seems oversized [03:20] Awesome, thanks. [03:20] Yeah, likely due to LO. [03:20] no, I think it has to do with some of the desktop packages switching to python3 [03:21] Ah I was wondering just recently what's holding our ISO on python2, bluesabre usually makes his compatible with both, or easily portable. [03:21] I was going to look into that [07:25] knome: I added a couple questions to the end of the document for context/intent [07:36] knome: also, thanks re: distrowatch updates, however that came on your radar :) [09:07] now that the server static.x.o is on can talk to bzr, updating will be easier \o/ (can even put it in a cron job if we want) [09:08] on my Sunday I'll spend some time making sure everything is in bzr and repulling everything directly from bzr, unless there are objections [09:09] a .bzr directory will exist, but I don't think we care [17:48] bluesabre: Unit193: I'm not so sure about updating the restricted addons, other non-xubuntu programs might need the libraries until the whole archive is migrated, do we care? [17:56] 0.10 is dead, and clementine looks like the biggest user. [18:09] I agree conceptually, but it might result in a few more bug reports until the whole archive is migrated [18:13] evening all [18:13] hm, we still have python2 stuff? [18:17] micahg: do we already know what's pulling in python2? [18:17] no idea, about to look [18:18] apt-offline is one [18:19] apt-xapian-index [18:19] blueman [18:20] meh, blueman [18:22] gconf [18:22] https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/19 [18:24] gnome-doc-utils [18:25] blueman gets python3 support with 2.0 [18:25] (which has been released already) [18:25] (21 days ago, to be exact) [18:25] it's in Debian [18:26] Debian is still building with python2 [18:26] I guess I can merge and switch to python3, but it doesn't do us much good until the rest is migrated [18:26] ofc [18:27] i'm putting this list on the whiteboard, one sec [18:27] feel free to fill in more details where you see fit: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development [18:29] seems like didrocks has started to work on gconf: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/gconf/python3 [18:29] should be fixed in wily already [18:29] (3 days ago) [18:35] pleia2, np; there was that person telling us that system requirements are "too hard to find" - he had wandered to our site via distrowatch... [18:36] knome: ah, I see the connection now :) [18:37] though that doesn't explain anything in his case - anyway, since i bumped into it... [18:40] * pleia2 nods [18:48] * ochosi tests a new music player (lollypop, has a few annoying depends though) [18:56] pleia2, btw, wrote replies on the pad (and added some context in the text itself) [18:58] knome, pleia2: i think the ssl discussion is up to the two of you, i don't know enough about it (in other words: i trust your judgement) [18:59] ochosi, yeah yeah, just wanted you to know what's happening :) [18:59] good .) [19:00] knome: oh thanks, I'll have a look [19:09] knome: oh, shall I social media our shiny new get involved page? [19:09] we could do that :) [19:09] let's draft a nice blurp [19:09] ok [19:10] also, I put the 14M Edubuntu-Xubuntu 14.04 Quickstart Guide pdf from Computer Reach on static.x.o but didn't put it in bzr because I'm a bad person, should I, or would a 14M pdf in the repo ruin your life? [19:10] lol [19:11] oh btw [19:11] * knome facepalms [19:11] did you look at the document? [19:11] it was too big to upload to wordpress [19:11] yeah, why? [19:11] you need to tell them to use our new logo. [19:11] oh, that [19:11] and i guess the new ubuntu logo [19:12] and new edubuntu logo [19:12] I did, but updating this isn't high on their priority list, and I've snagged them to help me with my non-profit [19:12] hahah! [19:12] what's their source format? [19:12] I don't know [19:12] probably something not awesome [19:12] if they're willing to share it, point them to send it to me, and i'll look for updating it [19:13] don't they have this available on their own website? [19:13] maybe in a few weeks, I need to stop asking them things :) [19:13] no, it's on dropbox [19:13] i'd imagine that would be a nice thing, somebody else doing them things :P [19:13] they just need to send me the source [19:13] and i'll return it to them modified with the new logos [19:13] well considering i can edit the source format [19:14] their website has the *old* logo too [19:14] i thikn that's snatched from the old *website* [19:14] and their website breaks if you stretch it around :( [19:17] websites, eh? [19:17] well, you *can* do it right... [19:19] alas, non-profit budgets [19:19] i know [19:35] any opinions on bug 1459417 ? [19:35] bug 1459417 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "the numeric pad should provide the regional separator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1459417 [19:36] "On Microsoft Windows systems, this is properly handled." [19:55] i wonder if the locale is designed to hold that kind of information [19:55] and yeah, the xkbmaps could handle this [20:21] pleia2, so for the social media stuff: [20:22] pleia2, Our newly improved Get Involved page makes it even easier to start contributing and help Xubuntu! [20:22] just the starting point... [20:23] that's a good initial post :) [20:23] ok, want to change spelling or sth or shall i just tweet? [20:23] go for it, I'll FB and G+ [20:24] tweeted [20:27] others done too [20:27] good good [20:28] knome: oh yeah, so should I add the pdf to the static bzr repo? [20:29] let's worry about that later [20:29] well, now that we have bzr ability on the server I was hoping to switch the static stuff over to the pulled in bzr repo rather than just uploading manually and adding the .pdf manually [20:30] haven't updated to latest static content changes since I was going to do it all at once [20:30] but I can wait if we want to worry about it later [20:32] lunch time with the husband now, bbiab [20:38] maybe you can just .bzrignore a directory [20:39] then you can keep it unversioned until we decide to add it [20:39] (if we decide to) [21:03] micahg: Oh hey ,since you seem to be around. https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-eyes-plugin_4.4.4-0ubuntu1.dsc - https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-time-out-plugin_1.0.2-0ubuntu1.dsc or http://pad.lv/ppa/unit193/staging [21:46] Unit193: I;m getting P: xfce4-time-out-plugin: copyright-with-old-dh-make-debian-copyright on the timeout package [21:47] Yeah it's the old copyright format. [21:48] planning to fix at some point? [21:58] I had hoped to leave that for the next person, d/copyright files can be a major pain. :/ [21:58] (cdbs has helped me learn to hate them.) [22:09] If it's needed, I could of course. [22:10] hrm, well, eventually, would be good for getting into Debian [22:10] I can upload without it for now [22:11] Nothing in wnpp for this one, for the other there's Debian #407380. [22:11] Debian bug 407380 in wnpp "RFP: xfce4-eyes-plugin -- eyes plugin for Xfce panel" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/407380