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Lurchymorning everyone08:01
diyttoI am looking forward to finally getting back to working on my server tomorrow08:44
rbasakDaviey: thanks!09:03
Davieyrbasak: NP, did you get sent the password?09:15
rbasakDaviey: no, I don't see anything.09:17
rbasakDaviey: looks like I'm a list moderator now, but no password :)09:51
rbasakDaviey: thank you for your help. I'll poke IS if don't hear from them.09:51
Davieyrbasak: I *think* IS can just reset it.. I don't have my gpg handy right now - i'll send it to you later today.09:52
rbasakOK, thanks. No worries if not. I'm sure IS can reset it :)09:53
remmas-sidahmedHello10:11
lordievaderGood afternoon.10:48
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RoyKafternoon11:31
lordievaderHey RoyK, how are you doing?11:31
RoyKfine, thanks11:32
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danofsatxgreetings. I'm running a local Ubuntu mirror, using apt-mirror to set it up. When apt-mirror runs, I get a stream of errors where the script can't find the Packages.gz file for the repositories, however the files exist and are reachable.14:03
danofsatxfor example, here's the output from this morning's run: http://fpaste.org/232136/34376109/14:03
danofsatxI can run wget from the command line on that server, and get every file that apt-mirror can't find. Where do I start troubleshooting it?14:03
TJ-danofsatx: There's a double "//" in the path - long shot but that might be throwing out the URL handler14:05
danofsatxwget works with that exact url, and that's the url returned by the mirror.list14:05
danofsatxactually, I misspoke. The URL isn't fed from mirror.list. The lines in mirror.list are (what I assume to be) a standard apt mirror.list file with space delimeters14:10
TJ-danofsatx: which release of Ubuntu is this on?14:10
danofsatxactaully, the apt-mirror script isn't being run from an ubuntu system.14:12
TJ-danofsatx: The clue is in the "Psh" prefix of the error message.14:14
danofsatxhmm....ok, I was wondering about that. What does that mean?14:14
TJ-It's the Perl Shell being used to load the *local* copy of the file telling you there is no local copy.14:17
danofsatxoh, ok. Is this an actual error then, or just a warning?14:18
TJ-If the local copy isn't there it means an earlier step to fetch that file hasn't happened14:20
TJ-danofsatx: do you see the message "Downloading ... files using .... threads"  ?14:21
danofsatxok, that makes sense. the first couple I've looked at in fact don't exist.14:21
danofsatxyes, they start after all those errors.14:22
TJ-danofsatx: If you read the Perl script you can get a feel for what it does when and what to expect to see in terms of progress messages14:22
TJ-danofsatx: Hmmm. maybe those errors are to be expected on a first run? Then it fetches the missing files maybe?14:23
TJ-danofsatx: does the process have permissions to the base_path ?14:24
danofsatxthis isn't a first run - it runs once a week, and I get the same output every time.14:24
TJ-danofsatx: forget what I said about download order - I can see it does downloads before processing the files14:24
TJ-danofsatx: if you look at the top of the script (around line 100) you can see the default values of the config_variables, which will be overridden by values you have set in mirror.list14:26
danofsatxit looks like the missing directory, in all cases, is the debian-installer/ directory.'14:26
TJ-danofsatx: did the script report that URL as having been downloaded?14:28
danofsatxhang on, let me dig some more through the output....14:29
danofsatxno, debian-installer directory is not downloaded.14:32
* danofsatx is now suspecting a mirror.list misconfiguration14:33
TJ-danofsatx: assuming the default config check the logs with: "grep debian-installer /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/*"14:34
danofsatxhmmm....there are a few.14:35
danofsatxon second though, there is one - archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debian-installer/debian-installer_20101020ubuntu318_amd64.deb14:36
danofsatxthe rest of them are libdebian-installer14:36
TJ-danofsatx: I see this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11719719/14:36
danofsatxyou have the same thing I do, then.14:37
danofsatxWhat it is looking for is debian-installer under the main/ multiverse/ or universe/ directories14:38
danofsatxfor example, here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/trusty/restricted/14:41
TJ-danofsatx: I suspect you need to modify the config and add an explicit pocket for debian-installer, of the form "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main/debian-installer restricted/debian-installer universe/debian-installer multiverse/debian-installer"14:46
danofsatxthat's where I was leaning, also, but I wasn't sure of the format.14:46
danofsatxI don't really need the debian-installer, though, I think. My users are using Ubuntu and Mint.14:47
kevindeDoes Bind gets used on enterprise servers?15:11
patdk-lapsadly, yes :(15:14
xperiaHi all. I have installed the newest Bind 10 version on my ubuntu server and i am getting now allways the problem with apt-get as it reports that the bind9 package in the repos and the new installed bind10 package collide. i have tryed to do apt-get -f install but it does not help. how can i fix my ubuntu server apt service so i am able again to update the distro ?15:18
TJ-xperia: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto15:21
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zuljamespage: ping...im adding a patch to the nova branch for liberty to make configdrive work for lxd, its a 6 liner16:04
jamespagezul: ack - sure16:04
jamespageupstreamable?16:04
zuljamespage: yeah but they might not take it16:05
zul*shudder* containers *shudder*16:05
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marlincWhat would be the recommended way to automatically run 'apt-get update' on a server. We use Zabbix to monitor updates using /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check but as expected it doesn't actually go about and get new package lists18:14
sarnoldmarlinc: the unattended-upgrades package is easy to install, something like landscape might give better reporting if you've got a lot of machines, but that's commercial..18:17
marlincThe thing is, we don't want automatic installing of updates, just the checking for updates18:17
sarnoldiirc unattended updates can be configured to check, or check and download, or check, download, and install.18:18
ogra_apt-get aupdate cant really harm your system ... why not just use a good old cronjob18:18
ogra_let it run once a day and be done ...18:18
sarnoldheh, indeed, simplicity :)18:19
marlincThe thing is that I do know that apt has 'APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists'18:19
bekksAnd run apt-get -s install ... to see wether the updates can be installed.18:19
marlincBut I'm not sure if it works by default or that its something being added by unattended-upgrades. What runs apt so that it can do those automatic updates18:20
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tewardsarnold: ping - does the security team really have any opinion as to what we do with nginx, other than your take on it?19:24
teward(and by 'we' i mean the server team)19:24
sarnoldteward: I don't think the others have looked at it yet19:25
sarnoldteward: between our backlog of security fixes and new features needed for snappy, we're feeling a bit overworked lately, so I haven't bothered any of them about it19:26
tewardsarnold: no problem.19:28
tewardsarnold: i have a feeling that closer to LTS it'll be a bigger issue19:28
tewardsarnold: i have a feeling that closer to LTS it'll be a bigger issue19:28
tewardbah19:28
tewardwas merely curious*19:28
* teward kicks his laptop from here to /dev/null and back19:28
sarnoldteward: it could be, but thankfully it's just one package, and upstream folks seem above average. :) hehe.19:28
tewardsarnold: indeed.  we also have someone at nginx willing to assist with security backports too which makes life a little more easier xD19:29
sarnoldteward: nice!19:29
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trippehPSA: Intel 750 NVMe SSD's are ridiculously fast.19:42
sarnoldtrippeh: how does it show up to the OS? /dev/sd*? or something else?19:43
trippehsarnold: /dev/nvme0n119:44
sarnoldtrippeh: can you use those for zfs? :)19:44
trippehand like 8 "irq"'s19:45
trippehhehe, it does behave like a block device19:45
trippehso it should...19:45
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trippehunless zfs is beeing weird19:46
b4tm4nany good recommendations or guides on using ubuntu server as a router20:44
geniib4tm4n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router20:46
b4tm4nexactly what i was reading - just making sure there wasn't somethign else20:47
geniib4tm4n: Pretty much everything that is already in the ubuntu server documentation applies as is20:47
b4tm4nwould you recommend shorewall?20:48
geniiI haven't used it so I can't offer an opinion about it20:51
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