=== rusbus is now known as Russ_|Away [05:19] More almal [05:52] mornings [05:52] ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, Cryterion on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy For some reason after server maint, couldn't reconnect as domain would not resolve" 1 day, 7 hours, 42 minutes and 16 seconds ago [06:03] Morning everyone , [06:03] barrydk, here ? [06:03] 'lo [06:04] How are things ThatGraemeGuy [06:07] maaz tell barrydk Ek het die average gecheck , jy kan volle 1 gig gebruik vandag. Dis plus minus 6 ure minetest [06:07] mazal: Sure, I'll tell barrydk on freenode [06:07] minetest uses 1GB in 6 hours? o_O [06:07] that can't be right [06:08] plus minus 150mb per hour [06:08] Depends what you do , and add in some email reading and web browsing during the day [06:11] On one Monday we were both connected the whole day , 8 hours. It chowed 2.8gig [06:11] That'e when we had to start limiting our connection time [06:12] Anyway , if anybody see barrydk , please tell him he has at least 6 hours on today [06:16] Maaz: tell barrydk Anyway , if anybody see barrydk , please tell him he has at least 6 hours on today [06:16] ThatGraemeGuy: Okay, I'll tell barrydk on freenode [06:17] done :p [06:25] morning ThatGraemeGuy barrydk MaNI and others [06:26] 'lo [06:39] hi mazal [06:55] Who is peer and why did he break my stuff :P [06:55] More oom [06:55] hahaha [06:55] more seun [06:55] koud ne [06:55] ys buite [06:55] Beslis === mazal_ is now known as mazal [06:57] Neeeman dis lekker buite, geniet die winter hy is amper weer verby [06:57] barrydk: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell barrydk Ek het die average gecheck , jy kan volle 1 gig gebruik vandag. Dis plus minus 6 ure minetest" 50 minutes ago [06:57] barrydk: By the way, ThatGraemeGuy on freenode told me "tell barrydk Anyway , if anybody see barrydk , please tell him he has at least 6 hours on today" 40 minutes and 26 seconds ago [06:57] Thanks Maaz [06:57] Lo B [06:58] Hi W [06:58] Dankie maaz and Graeme [06:58] sjoe [06:58] B average lyk goed , jy kan lekker speel vandag [06:58] Sal loer bietjie later, iemand weer jou goed gebreek? [06:59] My goed ? [06:59] kyk boontoe net na jy vir Kilos gegroet het [07:00] 08:55] Who is peer and why did he break my stuff :P [07:00] Oh nee , "connection reste by peer" gekry. Toe raas ek met whoever peer is lol [07:00] lol [07:00] ok bietjie stadig vanmore [07:00] Dink my lyn is siekerig vanmore [07:01] dag net ek gaan nou vir peer soek op minetest en al sy goed breek, sommer sy bene ook [07:01] lol [07:01] btw , ek het jou bome gebreek gisteraand [07:01] sorrrrrrrrrrrry [07:02] hoekom [07:02] Het skoongemaak by my , en toe slaan die mal chainsaw hoog horisontale lyn [07:02] aagwat sal weer groei [07:03] En het helemal weggekyk van jou af. Weet nie hoekom die ding dit doen nie :( [07:03] Nou het baie van hulle in die middel 'n gat , maar onder en bo ok [07:03] hahaha [07:04] wil in elkgeval van hulle uithaal daar is bietjie te veel, solank my rubber bome nog reg is is dit ok [07:04] Ok then , my home data is not looking as good as the work data , so I am off to go do PS3. [07:05] ok enjoy the day [07:10] sjoe, julle tweetjies. [07:12] haha hi superfly [07:12] I don't know what I'd do without my uncapped :-( [07:12] As soon as I saw it was mildly affordable, I went for it. [07:12] suffer [07:15] You are lucky to stay somewhere where it is available, I stay on a farm and the best i get is rubbish mtn and helkom's wireles [07:15] lol [07:33] good mornings [07:35] morning inetpro [07:36] im frozen [07:48] good morning [07:49] hi magespawn [07:55] http://newsletters.mybroadband.co.za/lt.php?c=519&m=534&nl=2&s=bf7acfe2dfd656e64c262fe9165a0e17&lid=12082&l=-http--mybroadband.co.za/news/security/129214-how-safe-are-you-on-the-internet.html [07:55] sjoe [08:00] hi Kilos [08:07] Hello Guys [08:07] Hello Kilos [08:07] hi arnaudmez [08:07] hello inetpro [08:07] hi nuvolari [08:07] hi Squirm [08:07] hi superfly [08:07] ugh I'm still in love with GT6 [08:07] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:08] What's on the table brothers [08:08] arnaudmez what did you break [08:08] Kilos: my desk bro, my desk [08:08] ai! [08:08] No means nothing bro [08:08] stop fiddling with things [08:09] The weekend was "pleasurized" [08:09] you broke nothing? [08:09] I wasn't even connected for the whole weekend ! [08:09] lol [08:09] Just I discovered a really good IRC app that i'm only trying now [08:10] and it's very lekker bro ! [08:10] * mazal munces milk tart and chocolate cake for breakfast [08:10] what app arnaudmez [08:12] Quassel IRC [08:12] oh half our guys use it [08:14] OS it runs on ? [08:14] comes in kde [08:14] you have it there already mazal [08:15] mazal: most of them and there is also one for android [08:15] arnaudmez: are you using the all in one or are the server and client seperate? [08:15] Oh ok , on K I use konversation [08:16] thats because you listen to me [08:16] eventually [08:16] quassel is good if you want fone and everything to use one nick or something [08:18] there are other ways of doing but quassel is nice [08:18] I am too old school for smart phones [08:18] i couldnt make it bloep [08:18] I still do pc stuff on pc [08:19] magespawn: I'm just trying it now and it looks very good client compared to what I've seen up to now ! [08:19] Kilos: I don't use K but Gnome [08:20] ya K is for Klever [08:20] hehe [08:20] lol [08:21] Kilos: clever you said ? [08:21] yes with K [08:21] come to gnome my bro, just come [08:21] ahahahahah [08:21] Now that was a lekker breakfast , back to GT6 [08:21] nono, i still have 12.04 [08:24] arnaudmez: there is a server component to quassel that allows you to install it on a web server, your client then connects to it, which basiclly means that you never log out of the room and never miss a message [08:24] arnaudmez once used to kde , its like a step backwards to go back to gnome [08:26] any way have to go, chat later [08:26] go well magespawn [08:31] that a good functionality [08:37] morning all [08:38] morning pieter2627 [08:39] guys i want to know how can I manage my iphone 5 from Linux [08:39] hi pieter2627 [08:41] * pieter2627 now wonders whether arnaudmez is a new or old guy [08:41] he is in brazaville [08:41] old but wish to know new things [08:41] pops in every now and again [08:41] normally when he breaks something [08:41] hehe [08:42] ah, so that what breakage causes him to pop out again :p [08:43] pieter2627: Kilos not at all [08:43] I like to chat with Kilos [08:44] he always look after my keyboard to make sure i don't break something ! [08:44] lol [08:48] lol [09:18] Tell me Kilos [09:18] is uGet working fine on your side ? [09:19] i have never used it arnaudmez [09:19] ok [09:20] just giving it a try now [09:20] what does it do [09:39] hahaha Eskom is about to launch the NoWeb: you sit in front of the computer, stare at the switched-off screen for 2.5 hours, and pay them a premium for the service. [09:41] sounds about right [09:44] lol [09:46] so does using tor use more data ? [09:46] yes [09:47] ty not for me then [09:47] you are basically forwarding other peoples traffic around, so that they and you can be anonymous [09:47] this has to come at a cost :) [09:48] especially if you are an endpoint [09:48] hi Padroni [09:48] hola [09:49] you can limit it though apparently https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#LimitTotalBandwidth [09:49] superfly here? [09:49] ya just seems busy [09:49] still [09:59] so then [09:59] game of thrones S05 came to an end [09:59] I have yet to watch it [09:59] so no spoilers please [09:59] on pain of death, I might add [10:03] ergh, seasons too short and gap in between so long :p [10:06] ikr ? [10:06] anyway - I am off to go study [10:06] laters, folks [10:29] sjoe peeps are funny [10:30] sis thought her longs were getting shorter, then found that as she gets broader the legs get shorter [10:46] wow, I can't believe I can't easily find a local retailer that stocks basic industry standard DC jacks [11:00] oh my [11:30] MaNI what do they look like [11:30] same as a lappy power jack? [11:38] show me a picture then i can think about what is needed [11:43] yeah it is a laptop jack basically [11:44] ask here http://www.hkcomputers.co.za/laptop-repair.html [11:44] https://www.google.com/search?biw=1120&bih=508&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=7.4+5mm+dc+power+jack&oq=7.4+5mm+dc+power+jack&gs_l=img.3...2675.2843.0.2967.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.64.img..2.0.0.oqMjksLEfOg [11:45] mm yeah I'll give them a try [12:02] superfly here? [12:03] ThatGraemeGuy: sortof [12:04] not sure if I'm thinking of someone else, but did you say a while ago you had a pet corn snake? [12:04] yes [12:05] what does it cost to feed per month roughly? [12:06] depends on what you feed it. I feed him rats, which are about R12 each, and I feed him 2 every 2 weeks. [12:06] cool and what other running costs are involved? [12:07] heating i guess? [12:07] yes, heating, and your license [12:07] er, permit [12:07] which is about R100 every 2-3 years, I think. [12:07] meh that's negligible [12:07] I can't remember what the latest is [12:08] does the heater run peridically or full time and do you know offhand what the wattage of a typical one is? [12:09] Mine is just a plug hanging out the back of the tank. plug it in and it's on. [12:10] You only need it in winter, when the weather is cooler [12:11] you just plug it in for a few hours at a time or does it run all winter? [12:34] ThatGraemeGuy: mine runs all winter. I haven't noticed it actually using a significant amount of electricity [12:35] ok thanks [12:37] The only other things you need to do are take the snake out at least once a week (they need to be handled often to remain tame), check water bowl about twice a week, and clean out the vivarium (which can be a little yucky, but it's not a lot of work) [12:38] cool [12:38] what else do you put in with him? sticks and rocks and stuff or not really that kind of stuff? [12:47] We have a branch, some rocks and a house. The house is pretty essential, the branch not so much. [12:51] thanks for all the info :) [13:09] so! we into 1 hour shedding now as well [13:14] time to tweet tsane and ask where to claim for damaged drives [13:15] not load shedding, must be a local issue [13:15] eish [13:54] can't we build a world wide grid for electricity like we have for the web? [13:54] have it powered from sunshine around the clock [13:54] +1 [13:55] electricity transport losses are large :p [13:56] MaNI: fix it! [13:56] lol [13:56] what makes far more sense in my opinion is to have a lot of smaller grids, each with centralized mechanical storage [13:56] we are all too far apart [13:56] e.g. the whole of capetown could pump solar into a cape town grid during the day [13:57] excess power could feed th e helderberg pump storage system, and at night that could generate power for the cape town grid [13:57] many batteries and inverters needed unless you convert everything to 12v [13:57] (or a fly wheel, or molten salt, or some other fancy mechanical power storage) [13:57] no batteries at all :p [13:57] how do you store dc? [13:57] batteries [13:58] MaNI: I like your idea [13:58] ac cannot be stored [13:58] Kilos: you can store water [13:58] it can, its jsut difficult [13:58] see pump storage and this other thingy let me find a link [13:58] http://www.gizmag.com/ares-rail-energy-storage/28395/ [13:59] let me see that in my google free browser [13:59] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity <- we already have a few of these for peak demand they work really well [14:00] the problem is that suitable sites for pump storage are limited [14:00] oh i see [14:01] but yeah mechanical storage works in principal, its just not affordable or practical for individuals [14:01] it would take much water to drive turbines [14:01] which is why I think mini grids with everyone pooling in for a central mechanical storage system makes sense (for small industry and homes) - large industry must just provide their own power [14:01] ai! [14:02] the ares thing is a rather nifty alternative :p [14:02] if someone can work out a way to store ac that would be wonderful [14:05] Kilos: or figure out how to transport it cheaply over long distances [14:05] basically it uses the AC power to push really heavy railway cars up a steep track, and then when power is required they come down slowly in reverse with a sort of regenerative braking technology to generate the AC back [14:06] we must also follow minetest and use wind towers [14:06] i dont know ct well but pe blows most of the time [14:07] ct should be good too following the weather liars info [14:07] heh, I don't think long distance transport is a reasonably solvable thing, I mean I guess we could position mirrors in orbit and just make it daylight all the time or something :p [14:07] lol i use mirrors to shine sunlight into my room for warmth [14:08] ct gets strong wind but its only for parts of the year, and very gusty, apparently gusty wind isn't that great for turbines :p [14:11] hi solidity [14:11] hallo [14:12] gaanit? [14:13] goed dankie, en self? [14:13] kan nie kla nie [14:13] haha ek kan baie kla maar niemand luister nie [14:14] ag almal kan kla [14:14] byvoorbeeld: Ai tog, hoekom kla almal die heeltyd? [14:14] :P [14:14] lol [14:24] solidity: ons kla nie, ons soek oplossings [14:25] MaNI: but why do they have to patent something like the ARES project? [14:26] so thers cant steal your income [14:26] because they want to make money :p [14:26] others [14:26] but see, there's one big problem that we need to solve somehow [14:26] that said the current patent system is broken [14:26] I'm not against patents, I'm against the current system [14:26] oh boy, here we go~ [14:27] ;) [14:28] solidity: see ARES system to put energy storage on the right track http://www.gizmag.com/ares-rail-energy-storage/28395/ [14:28] a charge/discharge efficiency of 86 percent [14:28] patents should expire much quicker [14:28] * inetpro likes it [14:28] MaNI: true that [14:28] 75% would be enough honestly [14:29] efficiency that is [14:29] price is more important [14:29] what's the efficiency of hydro? [14:30] pumped storage, not sure [14:30] yes pumped storage, sorry [14:31] hydro very efficient as long as there arent droughts [14:31] 70-80 apparently [14:31] Kilos: wait until you see this video: https://vimeo.com/75895781 [14:31] a very clever idea [14:31] honestly even 60 would be good at the right price range/scalability :/ [14:32] no man vida eat data [14:32] oops... sorry oom [14:32] its more about shifting power from one time to another than about being 100% efficient [14:32] lol [14:32] np [14:32] though better efficiency is a bonus :p [14:33] what ever happened to cabora basa [14:33] forget spelling [14:33] the dam is about to collapse [14:33] eish [14:33] big controversy [14:34] we still import power from it AFAIK [14:34] Cahora-Bassa (previously spelled Cabora Bassa) [14:34] it's interesting because its one of the few long distance power lines in the world using DC [14:35] or was don't know anymore I should read up on it [14:37] old za pumped millions into that [14:38] ahh it's kariba dam wall thats collapsing - but Cabora Bassa will be destroyed in the aftermath :p [14:38] eish [14:39] hopefully it won't get to that [14:49] I wonder why Ingula is never mentioned in the media [14:49] whats that [14:50] it is a new 1500 mw pumped storage plant that is also overdue :p - media only ever medupi and kesile (sp?) [14:51] lol [14:51] maybe they want to see if it can work [14:52] we already have 1mw (drakensberg pump storage) and 400mw (palmiet pumped storage) so its not like the technology is in doubt :p [14:52] aha [14:53] its part of the reason they were shedding us only on weekends at a point, fill the dams as much as possible over the weekends and then try meet peak during the week with it [14:54] ah [14:55] we also need to dam up lotsa deep valleys [14:55] water is become scarce [14:55] yeah suitable sites for pumped storage are unfortunately limited [14:55] im just talking about water storage now [14:56] but ingula would help with current problems thats why I'm wondering why there is complete silence on it :p [14:56] heh yeah, water storage is our next problem :( [14:59] Dam them all! Them them all to heck! [14:59] Dam* [14:59] damnit [14:59] damn [15:00] big dam full and little damn fool too [15:03] heh [15:04] nuclear plants are great at desalinating salt water :p [15:09] wow [15:09] then you get clean water? [15:10] yeah [15:10] its just used for cooloing right? [15:10] cooling [15:10] but people are too scared of nuclear to see the benefit [15:10] where does all the salt go [15:10] yeah cooling [15:10] but its a separate loop, so it doesn't go through the reactor [15:11] like theres an internal cooling loop, and then the outer desalanation loop cools the inner loop, safer :p [15:11] im convinced nuke is the way to go [15:11] the salt I guess they package and sell it in supermarkets IDK :p [15:11] lol [15:12] I've always been a nuclear fan but I don't think the masses will ever allow it :( - and that said the current russian deal is probably a giant rip off filled with backhanders [15:16] yeah [15:21] so I'm excited that we may finally go nuclear but at the same time upset that its probably going to be a disaster, very conflicted [15:22] the anti nuclear people are abusing the fact that it's a dodgy deal to try tarnish nuclear in general, it's annoying [15:22] ergh anyway let me go do some work :p [15:23] the ruskies must just bring their own labour === Russ_|Away is now known as rusbus [16:04] hi rusbus [16:04] o/ [16:08] see i didnt forget you are in toti [16:08] sies [16:08] you forgot me [16:08] after we became chilibros [16:08] no man [16:09] i only forgot that it wasnt someone else in toti [16:10] we were chilibros... and you forgot me... [16:12] hahaha [16:12] im old man i forget los [16:12] lots [16:13] and we can only be bros once you have made my curry [16:13] OH BUT I HAVE, GOOD SIR [16:13] you underestimate my affinity for a good curry! [16:14] well then you forgot me , because i got no feedback [16:14] I was gonna tell you two days ago [16:14] but you forgot me [16:14] so I was like [16:14] rofl [16:14] let me not bother this old man :p [16:14] its fine i wont give you my other secrets [16:14] >:( [16:15] i make a great garlic and chilli source [16:15] I just so happen to love garlic :D [16:16] hmm... [16:23] oh there was another free server thing for a year [16:23] ec2 [16:23] dunno if it still has that offer [16:23] it's not a proper year [16:23] in normal time sense [16:24] I think it's about CPU cycles [16:24] but still good, nontheless [16:24] haha that was posted in the wrong channel [16:24] i get so mixed up [16:25] well I hope my input has enriched your conversation [16:25] lol yeah ty [16:25] the pro uses it [16:26] got my bot there [16:38] hi georgelappies [16:39] hi Kilos [16:41] hi Tonberry [16:41] hi [17:45] hmm... [18:00] Kilos: ping [18:00] :p [18:01] smile pong [18:02] Kilos: pong pong [18:02] lol [18:02] I cleaned up my e-mail today :D [18:03] 2200 messages less :P [18:03] i dont even want to see mine [18:03]