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swaveckany show today?14:11
balloonsswaveck, yes indeed14:15
swaveckcool14:15
balloonsswaveck, 45 mins from now, things should be live14:15
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swaveckgoogle hangout window is missing on the page14:45
ahoneybunhello all14:50
mhall119popey: I'll be 2 minutes, sorry for delaying it14:59
BowlerFredrickhello ..15:01
popeyheya15:02
popeyno worries mhall11915:02
BowlerFredrickWhere's the video, then ?15:02
popeyBowlerFredrick: just about to start15:03
BowlerFredrickcant see a video - do i need to refresh ?15:03
mhall119BowlerFredrick: just starting now15:03
BowlerFredrickgot it.15:04
BowlerFredricki can see alan pope.15:04
nik90And you're live :)15:04
mhall119ask questions here, start them with QUESTION at the beginning15:05
nik90QUESTION: Where is your cat? Camera shy are they?15:05
BowlerFredrickQUESTION: Can you explain WHY the new bq5 is a "convergence phone", exactly ?15:06
mj_QUESTION: when will the Ubuntu phone finally sort out the bluetooth issues? I still cannot connect it to my car system, and this is a serious safety issue :(15:06
popeyis mhall119's audio screwy for anyone else, or just me?15:06
goatsLoverhi15:06
goatsLoveri'm hearing a bad echo15:07
balloonsQUESTION: How many selfies did you take at SELF?15:07
popeyme too15:07
goatsLovermike, i can't hear you15:07
ahoneybunbad echo as well15:07
nik90popey: mhall119's mic seems broken...15:07
goatsLoverwave15:07
BowlerFredrick_mhall119 's sound is really choppy.15:07
mj_@ Michael Hall - you sound like a villain in a movie!15:07
theBestQUESTION: Are you stressed now due to the anouncement of the bq converged phone in developing the desktop interface of Unity8-Ubuntu?15:07
BowlerFredrick_still choppy.15:08
* ahoneybun waves at everyone15:08
goatsLovercrisp and clear15:08
ahoneybunsounds better15:08
BowlerFredrick_that's better.15:08
goatsLovernope15:09
theBestCongrats to everyone involved in the OTA 4 update. My phone gets better and better each month.15:09
goatsLovermaybe15:09
The_FishQUESTION: Is there a way to communicate stock app or OS improvement ideas visually without learning QML? If so what should I use and who would I send them to afterwards?15:09
mj_QUESTION: After today's phone updates, can you tell us what's going to be included in the next update pack?15:10
nik90mhall119: much better15:10
swaveckQUESTION: BQ EDGE when? Microsoft is just about to launch converged phone..15:10
sturmflut2QUESTION: (if it wasn't asked already!) It seems some features planned for OTA-4 got postponed at the very last moment, like the new keyboard layouts and WiFi Tethering. Do you know why?15:11
balloonshey sturmflut2 :-)15:11
sturmflut2swaveck: The Convergence device will not be released before October15:11
sturmflut2balloons: o/15:11
goatsLoverQUESTION: i find it hard to type long messanges on Ubuntu Phone, can i connect a keyboard?15:11
ahoneybunQUESTION: any plans for a stock IRC client?15:12
nik90hmm still echo..it is better for a while before it starts echoing15:12
mj_@mhall 119 - still echoey15:13
balloonssturmflut2, to your question, I know the migration to vivid was the most critical and biggest piece to happen. It broke some things that required attention15:13
mardymhall119: I think the problem is on the internet connection, maybe try lowering the quality15:13
BowlerFredrick_troo dat.15:13
sturmflut2ahoneybun: Probably not in the near future, the App Lifecycle currently makes it impossible. You can't keep the connection alive if the app gets moved into the background.15:13
ahoneybuntrue15:14
mhall119sturmflut2: messaging frameworks :)15:14
sturmflut2mhall119: Sure, but who writes the IRC connector :P15:14
The_FishQUESTION: Even though I am not an Ubuntu Insider, I would very much like to pretend that I am. Can we all just agree that this is the case and then someone send me a MX4. Many thanks.15:15
goatsLoverwily o/15:15
mardymhall119: much better now!!15:15
BowlerFredrick_Wow - mhall119 looks like he's in braille.15:16
mhall119BowlerFredrick_: I'm in 1999 internet mode :)15:16
BowlerFredrick_:)15:17
ahoneybunmhall119: also here: http://usefoss.com/index.php/2015/06/13/self-day-1-ubuntu/15:17
mhall119^^ that15:17
theBesthttps://www.youtube.com/user/southeastlinuxfest15:18
theBest?15:18
ahoneybunalso I now have a arduino thanks to keith mhall11915:19
goatsLoverQUESTION: is ubuntu phone ready for my mom?15:20
ahoneybunQUESTION: how can a person in a LoCo take over leadership? I know a poll needs to be held but if it is real dead perhaps it would just be held over?15:20
ahoneybungoatsLover: if she needs to call and text and have access to a good browser, she should be covered15:21
ahoneybuna lot of great apps15:21
sturmflut2balloons: Ah, thanks for the info. I just re-read the Landing team e-mails and actually those features were never really promised for OTA-4, it's more like "they're there now and merge requests have been filed", but I never took the time to go and check if things had actually been merged in the end. Shame on me.15:21
goatsLovershe listen to music and makes phone calls15:21
ahoneybunthe stock music player is amazing goatsLover and 7digital is pretty nice15:23
goatsLoveri don't she'll find turbo folk on 7digital hehe15:23
ahoneybunoh15:24
balloonssturmflut2, :-) With vivid behind us, I expect a much bigger changelog for the next OTA15:25
goatsLoverQUESTION: is turbo pascal supported on Ubuntu Phone?15:26
balloonssturmflut2, yea timing gets confusing because I run the devel-proposed builds. So things land in wily and on those images soon after being completed. It can take some time and refinement for them to actually get into the OTA stable update15:26
swaveckQUESTION: the amount of ported devices is rather low, any plans to improve porting guide/make it more easier for less experienced developers?15:27
Sid__QUESTION: Any insights if Canonical is in conversation with the fairphone company considering the new fairphonw 2? Ubuntu on the fairphone just seems like a perfect mariage :D15:27
ahoneybunThe_Fish: talk to danielmcguire on #ubuntu-app-devel as he is working with the Help HTML5 app in design choices15:28
ahoneybunDS-McGuire ^15:28
BowlerFredrick_QUESTION: What year does the panel predict that you'll be able to plug your phone into your TV ot tele-ubuntu-Box ?15:29
Sid__QUESTION: I'm using dualboot Ubuntu on Android. Does it use phased updates as well or am I on the wrong channel (ubuntu-rtm/stable/ubuntu)?15:29
mj_QUESTION: when will the Ubuntu phone finally sort out the bluetooth issues? I still cannot connect it to my car system, and this is a serious safety issue :(15:30
ahoneybunmine was 50mbs lol15:31
sturmflut2goatsLover: I suppose this is a troll question, but you could actually develop for an Ubuntu phone in Turbo Pascal15:33
BowlerFredrick_QUESTION: JonoBacon said he'd "love to do a reunion Q&A" http://redd.it/336wu9  So how about it guys ?15:34
The_FishQUESTION: Would the bottom edge on the phone be best used as a menu system for the app (File, edit, view etc. Menus that could be switched between in a similar fashion to the items in the indicators menus at the top edge)?15:34
Sid__QUESTION: I'm thinking of using devel-proposed. Michael could you tell us what your experiance is like?15:37
euclidQUESTION : usb 3.0 seagate external hdd does not spin off (on ubuntu 14.04) is it a bug ?15:38
justCARAKASQUESTION any updates on VOIP ?15:39
goatsLoversturmflut2: nope. it's legit15:41
sturmflut2goatsLover: Then the answer is yes, you could do it.15:41
goatsLoversturmflut2: the question was bad... i mean pascal15:41
goatsLoverawesome15:42
sturmflut2goatsLover: Free Pascal should be able to create an exectuable for the ARM architecture, the only thing missing is probably some library which allows you to access the Mir display server, otherwise you can't do graphics15:43
BowlerFredrick_Which lovco team is it ?15:44
ahoneybunflorida15:44
goatsLoversturmflut2: if they have c bindings for SDL then i'm happy15:45
goatsLoverc makes me sick :(15:45
sturmflut2goatsLover: I don't know if they have them. SDL2 works at least, it can talk to Mir, Neverball/Neverputt use it.15:46
goatsLovernice!15:46
goatsLoverthanks sturmflut215:46
BowlerFredrick_my video went jurkey there for a second.15:47
sturmflut2goatsLover: But pure Pascal without objects isn't that much different from C?15:49
ahoneybunI think Feb-Mar15:49
goatsLoverthat's why i like object pascal15:50
sturmflut2goatsLover: Well, Object Pascal isn't that much different from C++ ;)15:52
goatsLoverthere's much more than this.. i don't like c compilers... just read the source code and compare15:53
BowlerFredrick_Once we take over the world - popey lol !15:54
goatsLoverfpc is much nicer... you can browser the source code in a couple of days15:54
sturmflut2goatsLover: Which C compiler are you comparing to FPC?15:55
goatsLoverall of them15:55
ahoneybunI have had my car radio working fine15:55
goatsLoveri have to go now. thanks sturmflut2 ! bye15:56
sturmflut2goatsLover: That's rather unfair then. TCC for example is much smaller than FPC.15:56
sturmflut2goatsLover: o/15:56
goatsLover:D o/15:56
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euclidThank you guys !!!15:58
ahoneybunQUESTION: how would you party if your app hit 1000 downloads?15:59
mhall119ahoneybun: throw a huge party party with all the money you've made :)16:00
* ahoneybun has made no money ...16:00
ahoneybunlol16:00
mhall119then throw a small party :)16:01
sturmflut2mhall119: Well, didn't YOU make some money with an app that surely hit more than 1000 downloads?16:01
* sturmflut2 is on to something here16:01
mhall119sturmflut2: the paid app didn't get that many, but yes I did make a bit of spending money off it16:02
sturmflut2mhall119: So where is this party going to be16:02
mhall119sturmflut2: It would pay for a round of beer, yeah :)16:03
BowlerFredrick_bye guys .16:06
BowlerFredrick_leaves.16:06
j3di_ hello19:12
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