[01:34] <waltman> One of the first IoT talks I ever went to, several years ago at a PPW, discussed arduino powered humidors.
[04:08] <lazyPower> you ask, and the internet says "granted"
[04:08] <lazyPower> http://hackaday.com/2014/07/28/the-smart-humidor/
[04:08] <pleia2> hehe
[04:08] <lazyPower> o/ pleia2
[04:08] <pleia2> o/
[04:08] <lazyPower> I'm starting to get excited
[04:08] <lazyPower> Sunday is coming up fast
[04:09] <pleia2> I'm in Sonoma next weekend, not sure I'll be back in time :(
[04:09] <lazyPower> Even if you have family business to attend to, I'll be around Wednesday too
[04:09] <pleia2> yay Wednesday
[04:09] <lazyPower> Mon/Tues are spoken for w/ the conf
[04:09] <lazyPower> but i took an extra day in SF to soak in teh hipster culture before i head back to the burgh
[04:09] <pleia2> nice
[04:09] <lazyPower> not enough hipsters here to really soak it in
[04:09] <lazyPower> i mean, i guess i could move to lawrenceville
[04:09] <lazyPower> but thats sooooo expensive
[04:09] <pleia2> hah
[04:10] <pleia2> I obviously have work, but I live right downtown and am free by 5pm for anything really
[04:11] <lazyPower> right on, i'll reach out here when i leave the conf area and i'm not bound by the laws of conference gods to go do the after hours elbow rubbings with projects i want to be involved in
[04:11] <pleia2> hehe
[04:11] <lazyPower> greetings sir, may i have a pull request?
[04:11] <pleia2> also, the bar at the top of the marriot marquis has beaaaautiful views if it's not foggy
[04:11] <lazyPower> oooo
[04:12] <lazyPower> so you're telling me i should bring the DSLR and do the whole tourist thing while I'm there?
[04:12] <pleia2> you'll pay $15 for a drink, but it's worth it :)
[04:12] <pleia2> totally
[04:12] <lazyPower> i've already prepared my wallet for going broke
[04:12] <pleia2> hehe
[04:12] <lazyPower> #thankssteam
[04:12] <pleia2> inorite
[04:13] <pleia2> actually, tempting list as it was, I have placed a moratorium on new games
[04:13] <lazyPower> i need to join a support group
[04:13] <lazyPower> i cannot stop myself
[04:13] <pleia2> haha
[04:14] <lazyPower> its like "I'll get around to this next year *buy*"
[04:14] <pleia2> yeah
[04:14] <lazyPower> meanwhile... fallout 4 on the horizon
[04:14] <lazyPower> its like "You know you're going to lose a solid 6 months to me... why are you even kidding yourself?"
[04:14] <lazyPower> and my wallet is like "Jerk..."
[04:14] <pleia2> well today, FF7 remake? I AM GOING TO QUIT MY JOB AND PLAY FF7
[04:15] <lazyPower> haha, IKR
[04:15] <lazyPower> relive those glory days, maybe this time your primary white magic user wont die
[04:15] <pleia2> lol
[04:15] <lazyPower> and just to be fun, the nintendo devs added 42 new WEAPONS to the map
[04:15] <lazyPower> enjoy the grind... this will not be easy
[04:16] <lazyPower> gahd i think about how much time i sank into that franchise, and i regret none of it
[04:16] <lazyPower> good times
[04:16] <pleia2> same
[04:16] <lazyPower> wanna be steam fwiends?
[04:16] <pleia2> I uninstalled it
[04:16] <lazyPower> so you can pwn me in TF2 and laugh at how pathetic i am at FPS
[04:16] <lazyPower> oooo
[04:17] <lazyPower> hence the moratorium
[04:17] <lazyPower> got it
[04:17] <pleia2> yeah, I switched to only playing console games, when I play games at all
[04:17] <lazyPower> i weep silently that you're not doing a steambox supporting the gaming on linux cause
[04:17] <lazyPower> but its cool, i wont hold a grudge
[04:17] <lazyPower> in fact, i blame myself
[04:17] <lazyPower> i arrived too late
[04:18] <pleia2> heh
[04:18] <pleia2> my first geek famous thing was having unreal tournament instructions for debian on my site in 2002, I've done my duty over the years
[04:19] <lazyPower> wow, that was back when you had to do the wine schenanigans
[04:19] <lazyPower> that or the lokii installer, i forget
[04:19] <pleia2> they had a linux installer, but to install the umod packs you needed to use the script that was hard to find
[04:20] <pleia2> and it was lame without the umod packs, so
[04:20] <lazyPower> soudns about liek any pc game ever, the mods make the community
[04:20] <pleia2> and increasingly console games :\
[04:20] <lazyPower> YOUR DLC IS ONLY $29.99
[04:21] <lazyPower> the core game was $30.00
[04:21] <pleia2> x_x
[04:21] <lazyPower> \o/
[04:21] <lazyPower> yay i get to buy it again
[04:21] <lazyPower> dude, pleia2
[04:21] <lazyPower> i have GOT to schmooze with you openstack peeps and get an openstack shirt
[04:21] <pleia2> haha
[04:21] <lazyPower> i'm so jelly of everybody that got to go to ODS, meanwhile i'm over here like herp derp dockercon yup
[04:22] <pleia2> ODS is awesome <3
[04:22] <lazyPower> the one i got in belgium is great and all
[04:22] <lazyPower> but i want the new schwag
[04:22] <lazyPower> cuz ya know, openstack = private infrastructure for errbody
[04:22] <pleia2> oddly I know fewer and fewer canonical folks at the summit these days
[04:22] <lazyPower> well our OS team h as grown a bit this year
[04:22] <pleia2> I know dustin and robbie, but that's about it aside from mark and jane
[04:23] <lazyPower> really?
[04:23] <lazyPower> oh man, you gotta put in that request and be like "Get lazy power over to ODS"
[04:23] <pleia2> yeah, I hardly recognized anyone
[04:23] <lazyPower> "He's gonna introduce me to the cool people... or so he says"
[04:23] <lazyPower> whether theyre cool or not is still to be seen ^_^
[04:23] <pleia2> hehe
[04:23] <lazyPower> actually our storage guy chris holcomb came from facebook
[04:23] <lazyPower> he''s working on a gluster charm in rustlang
[04:24] <lazyPower> crazy interesting approach
[04:24] <pleia2> really, gluster?
[04:24] <lazyPower> yeah
[04:24] <lazyPower> we have a charm for Ceph already
[04:24]  * pleia2 nods
[04:24] <pleia2> and presumably swift too
[04:24] <lazyPower> so gluster was the next step i suppose?
[04:24] <lazyPower> oh yeah, we have had s wift since havana aiui
[04:25] <lazyPower> you know us juju cats, we're crazy like foxes. Charming up the world
[04:25] <pleia2> hehe
[04:25] <lazyPower> making more boxes so we can draw lines between boxes and work the infrastructure magic
[04:25] <lazyPower> because boxes  + lines = interesting stories
[04:25] <pleia2> I liked the juju powered ice cream at the hong kong ODS
[04:26] <pleia2> it was clever and fun
[04:26] <lazyPower> meanwhile, we see those charms and think "What a terrible way to explain what we do"
[04:26] <pleia2> lol
[04:27] <lazyPower> i mean, at its core, basic foundation, sure
[04:27] <lazyPower> "I want strawberry"
[04:27] <lazyPower> drag and drop strawberry and get your soft serve
[04:27] <lazyPower> "I want wordpress"
[04:27] <lazyPower> drag and drop and you get wordperss.. kinda... you ahve to drop your db and draw a line
[04:27] <lazyPower> ermahgerd werdperss
[04:27] <lazyPower> anywho
[04:27] <pleia2> I think you had to draw lines for the toppings
[04:27] <lazyPower> ahhhh
[04:27] <lazyPower> ok
[04:27] <pleia2> I don't know, I didn't actually do it, I made robbie make me one
[04:27] <lazyPower> add a relation to your toppings
[04:27] <lazyPower> oi
[04:28] <lazyPower> haha thats so us though
[04:28] <lazyPower> i love my jerb
[04:28] <pleia2> me too
[04:28] <lazyPower> :D
[04:28] <lazyPower> ^5 for job/life satisfaction
[04:28] <lazyPower> we figured this crap out early
[04:28] <lazyPower> my parents never did figure it out, and hated working. all 60 years of it
[04:29] <lazyPower> i'm like "nope"
[04:29] <lazyPower> "not gonna do that"
[04:29] <pleia2> I just got lucky
[04:29] <lazyPower> thats a fair assessment, in many regards i did too
[04:29] <pleia2> I like linux and open source, and it turns out people want to pay me to work on it, score
[04:30] <lazyPower> but we shouldn't negate the work we put in to get here either
[04:30] <lazyPower> i mean, just 4 short years ago i was a pool boy
[04:30] <pleia2> indeed, a lot of work
[04:30] <lazyPower> you've got quite the impressiev back story, when i did my "internet research" on you while in belgium there's a lot on google
[04:31] <lazyPower> you're an absolute power house in the community
[04:31] <pleia2> much of which I did for free because <3
[04:31] <lazyPower> aannndd creepiest statement tonight goes to me for admitting i did research on you
[04:32] <pleia2> hahah
[04:32] <pleia2> it's less creepy when you admit to it
[04:32] <lazyPower> phwew
[04:33] <lazyPower> i admit it, creeper reduction level 2
[04:34] <pleia2> lol
[09:20] <rmg51> Morning
[11:44] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:44] <JonathanD> So hey, uh, pleia2... could you throw me a retweet? :D
[12:16] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[13:15] <WorkingTurkey> waltman: i have several cigar ideas in the making
[15:40] <ChinnoDog> Why is it so complex to get the bell working in Ubuntu? I finally got the audible bell working on my laptop but still can't figure out why it won't play through my ssh session.
[15:41] <waltman> ChinnoDog: because linux
[15:42] <ChinnoDog> Weren't terminal specifications created to fix things like this?
[15:43] <waltman> I don't know, but I do know that's what the visual bell in screen was created to fix :)
[15:44] <ChinnoDog> It is an in interesting solution to the problem but of limited usefulness. I want to send the bell character not just so I can hear the bell on my terminal but also so its window can blink.
[15:45] <ChinnoDog> The first problem was that alsa didn't have a sound sample to play for the bell. I don't think I have a PC speaker so that is the only way for it to play.
[15:45] <waltman> That's exactly what screen's visual bell does.
[15:46] <waltman> wait, a sound sample?
[15:46] <ChinnoDog> It flashes the terminal window but it won't cause it to flash in the GUI.
[15:46] <ChinnoDog> I want it to get my attention if I don't have the terminal window up
[15:46] <ChinnoDog> Yes, a sound sample so that the bell works locally.
[15:47] <waltman> Oh, I thought you wanted to beep the internal bell, e.g. like this: echo '\a'
[15:47] <waltman> I'm very confused.
[15:47] <ChinnoDog> It is the same thing.
[15:47] <waltman> that doesn't use a sound sample!
[15:48] <ChinnoDog> It may play to the PC speaker but it also gets intercepted by alsa
[15:48] <ChinnoDog> I don't have a PC speaker so if it plays there I wouldn't know.
[15:48] <ChinnoDog> If you install the sound sample for the bell into also then it will play through the sound card.
[15:50] <ChinnoDog> I remember opening a Packard Bell desktop once and finding that the sound card had a jumper on it for connecting the PC speaker output from the motherboard so it would always play through the sound card. I thought that was clever. I wish it were wired like that.
[15:52] <waltman> I thought the pc speaker and the sound card were separate things. But my linux box is getting on 10 years old, so maybe things have change.
[15:52] <waltman> Anyhow, I don't know the answer to your question, so I'll just be quiet now.
[15:52] <ChinnoDog> They are separate things but modern computers don't have a PC speaker. They saved 4 cents and left it out.
[15:53] <ChinnoDog> That is why connecting the PC speaker output to a sound card input was clever. I'm sure the PC speaker I/O port still exists in the chipset. It just isn't connected to anything.
[15:53] <jthan> my case speaker is still there and works fine
[15:54] <jthan> and that's my workstation at work... which I got two weeks ago
[15:54] <ChinnoDog> Most desktops still have them because motherboard manufacturers frequently put surface mount speakers directly onto the desktop motherboards.
[15:55] <ChinnoDog> If they added a full sized 8 ohm speaker to the case for you then I guess it is a frill.
[15:57] <ChinnoDog> Anyway, I digress! I can't beep over an SSH session!
[16:24] <WorkingTurkey> yeah
[16:24] <WorkingTurkey> xset +b
[16:24] <WorkingTurkey> right?
[16:46] <ChinnoDog> I already did that.
[16:46] <ChinnoDog> Somehow I've made it work but I don't know how.
[16:47] <ChinnoDog> I can now play the beep character in weechat and the sound plays locally.
[16:48] <ChinnoDog> apparently the beep command does not beep. I can "echo -e \\a" to test it though.
[16:49] <ChinnoDog> Now I just have to figure out how to get the visual bell to work in Unity.
[16:51] <lazyPower> you could always pipe that through notify-osd
[16:54] <ChinnoDog> How do I do that?
[16:55] <lazyPower> http://askubuntu.com/questions/161851/how-do-i-use-notify-send-to-immediately-replace-an-existing-notification
[16:56] <lazyPower> that answer is a bit overkill
[16:56] <lazyPower> just notify-send will work
[16:57] <ChinnoDog> I don't know how to execute it when I receive a terminal beep though.
[16:58] <JonathanD> I really need a notification on my laptop for irssi.
[16:58] <ChinnoDog> Actually, maybe I should just install Terminology.
[16:59] <lazyPower> https://weechat.org/scripts/source/anotify.py.html/
[16:59] <lazyPower> seems like someone already did it for you
[17:00] <lazyPower> anything in this list that requires libnotify is a candidate for working with notify-osd
[17:00] <lazyPower> https://weechat.org/scripts/stable/tag/notify/
[17:00] <ChinnoDog> It wIt would have to work over ssh though
[17:00] <lazyPower> ah
[17:01] <lazyPower> i didnt see that part
[17:01] <lazyPower> thats tricky
[17:01] <ChinnoDog> https://www.enlightenment.org/about-terminology
[21:57] <lazyPower> interesting