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ReptiliaHow do i make Xubuntu remember my brightness level setup for the next boot? On every new boot i have to re-adjust the brightness to the desired level, and the OS won't remember my choice. Also, i can't find a GUI for changing the brightness on Xubuntu. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.08:57
LuyinReptilia for a GUI install xfce4-power-manager09:08
Luyinthen add brightness plugin to your panel09:09
ReptiliaLuyin:Thanks. Will that solve the problem with the brightness level?09:10
LuyinReptilia I don't think so, no09:11
SemiartyReptilia https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=9091&p=2 post #4009:12
Semiarty39 and 40*09:13
ReptiliaLuyin:I can't find a brightness plugin as an option09:14
LuyinReptilia did you install the package I was referring to?09:14
ReptiliaLuyin:Yup, and the terminal printed that "xfce4-power-manager" was in the latest version09:15
ReptiliaSemiarty:Thanks, but...i want to make it work in the "regular way". If i don't find a regular way, i will try that for sure :)09:18
LuyinReptilia I've only got the german interface, so don't know what the correct name is, but it might be something like "power management"09:18
ReptiliaLuyin:Yup, i already have that plugin on my panel, but there it only shows the battery percentage, no brightness options.09:22
LuyinReptilia you ought to be able to scroll the mouse scroll wheel on the panel symbol to increase/decrease display brightness, and you should be able to click on the symbol to see brightness options09:24
ReptiliaLuyin:Nope, there is no such thing09:25
LuyinReptilia http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/panel-plugin09:27
ReptiliaLuyin:Yup i know, it used to be fine on previous versions, i have recently noticed that the brightness slider is gone.09:33
ReptiliaLuyin:I have been setting it manually on every boot, but got tired of doing that all the time09:34
Luyinwhat happened before you noticed the slider was gone? did you do a full system upgrade, installed/removed any packages?09:37
ReptiliaLuyin:Full sys update no, but i've done several updates09:40
LuyinReptilia try doing a full upgrade (sudo apt upadte && sudo apt dist-upgrade), reboot, and try again. if that doesn't work, you might want to file a bug report. I have no idea what else could cause this. someone else might have a better idea, though09:41
ReptiliaLuyin:Actually there wasn't a brightness slider since i've installed the OS, but the OS used to remember my brightness level setup, so i didn't have to set it again on every boot. I think an update ~ 10 days ago changed this.09:42
LuyinReptilia which ubuntu version have you got installed?09:49
Reptilia14.0409:50
ReptiliaI've done the update, as you suggested09:50
Reptiliarebooting09:51
ReptiliaLuyin:Nah, still the same09:53
LuyinReptilia I'm just checking whether the slider ought to be at a different place in XFCE 4.10, since I'm on 4.12 here via ppa. wait a sec09:54
ReptiliaLuyin:Sure09:54
MeerkatFrom my experience 14.04 has never saved my brightness setting between boots.09:55
LuyinReptilia seems like also in 4.10 the xfce4-power-manager is responsible for the brightness plugin. so there should be a brightness plugin somewhere in your panel items09:56
Luyinif it isn't, I have no idea why yours isn't showing09:56
ReptiliaWell, i will do a 15.04 update then10:00
ReptiliaSince Meerkat also said that he has encountered the same problem10:00
Reptiliaon 14.0410:01
Meerkatit's more that I haven't encountered a working 14.04 version yet10:09
ReptiliaMeerkat:Haha :D10:21
LuyinI've changed my cursor theme to dmz black. but on some elements, like the window panes, in hexchat, and on the xfdesktop, I still get the white dmz cursor. how can I fix that?10:25
ReptiliaI've updated to 14.10 and again, there is no brightness slider.11:29
ochosiReptilia: i'm not sure what version of xfce4-power-manager we shipped in 14.10, but the one in 15.04 has a brightness slider11:30
ochosithe panel plugin you're looking for is called "Power Manager Plugin"11:30
Reptiliaochosi:Yup, that's the one without the brightness slider. Thanks11:31
Reptiliaochosi:Cool theme colors in 14.10 btw (the default purple :))11:31
ochosithanks :)11:31
Reptiliapurple/rose11:31
ochosi14.10 was already so long ago i practically forgot about it already ;)11:31
Reptiliaochosi:Also, i've noticed that the app execution time is lowered11:32
ochosiwe didn't do anything about that though. at least not specifically11:32
ReptiliaYeah, but it's noticeable, don't know what could be the cause11:32
ReptiliaLike, it's more instant :D11:33
Reptiliaochosi:K, i will update to 15.04 then11:33
Meerkatcan we get that slider backported to 14.04?11:35
ochosiMeerkat: you can do that at your own risk by using some of our PPAs, but we won't do that11:40
ochosi14.04 is about stability, and there's some risk things will go awry with xfpm and light-locker11:40
MeerkatI understand. Has any work for 16.04 begun? Even at a planning stage?11:43
cfhowlettMeerkat, WIP11:44
Reptiliahochosi:What about the #1395720 bug? Have you resolved the issue?11:46
Reptiliahochosi:This is the first time i am reading release notes, lol11:46
ochosiMeerkat: 15.10 is the next release11:46
brainwashbug 139572011:49
ubottubug 1395720 in catfish (Ubuntu) "authentication in livesession accepts any value as password" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139572011:49
ochosithat's not even a bug imo11:50
Reptiliahochosi:You're right. A Live session, lol. Forgot what a live session was11:57
Meerkatwhat is catfish used for?11:57
bazhang!info catfish11:58
ubottucatfish (source: catfish): File searching tool which is configurable via the command line. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-1 (vivid), package size 76 kB, installed size 807 kB11:58
Reptiliaochosi:Nope, the brightness slider is missing again, after the 15.04 update. xfce4-power-manager says it's in the latest version12:33
ochosiReptilia: then it's possible your display brightness control isn't supported, sry12:34
Reptiliaochosi:hmm12:38
ReptiliaIs it safe to remove xfce4-power-manager, and install it again?13:14
ReptiliaIs it safe to remove xfce4-power-manager, and install it again?13:37
ReptiliaXubuntu 15.04 will show the brightness slider while i am in a Guest Session. The whole look of the window that opens when i click on the battery icon, is different from the one on my usr account.13:41
ReptiliaXubuntu 15.04 will show the brightness slider while i am in a Guest Session. The whole look of the window that opens when i click on the battery icon, is different from the one on my usr account.14:15
ReptiliaXubuntu 15.04 will show the brightness slider while i am in a Guest Session. The whole look of the window that opens when i click on the battery icon, is different from the one on my usr account.15:16
GridCubeReptilia: if you upgraded your system you might be carrying old desktop theme configs, you can delete those and relogin, you will get the exact same desktop than guest15:18
GridCubeits just common sense not to overwrite them, usually people changes the desktop theme to their liking, like adding more launchers and what not15:18
GridCubei personally like to use my panels in vertical mode P:15:18
ReptiliaGridCube:All right then, how do i delete the old desktop theme configuration?15:37
GridCubeReptilia: rename or delete ~/.config/xfce4/panel15:40
GridCubeand relog15:40
GridCubein fact if you just delete the whole ~/.config/xfce4 you will get the desktop reseted as if its the first boot :)15:42
ReptiliaGridCube:What is the usage of "~"?15:43
GridCube~ means /home/yourusername/15:46
Reptiliathanks15:46
GridCubeor whatever is your home, if you are root in other OSs it could also mean /root/, its basically the home folder for the current user15:47
GridCubeits like . and .., which means "in this directory" and "in they up directory to this one" thats why you cd .. :D15:47
GridCubethats also why you execute scripts by ./script.sh, becase the . means "excute this file in this directory" P:15:48
GridCubeReptilia: notice how if you open a terminal it will say something like, rept@tilia:~$ as your prompt :)15:51
GridCubebut if you cd anywhere else the ~ changes to the current directory name :D15:51
ReptiliaGridCube:Damn, i didn't know that's the reason for the ./ thing :D15:52
GridCube:D15:52
ReptiliaGridCube:I have been using that while i was the C course at my uni15:52
GridCube:)15:53
Reptiliawhile i was learning*15:53
Reptiliathanks15:53
GridCubeits simple things like this that i find awesome of the linuxverse, almost everything has a why15:53
ReptiliaGridCube:Yeah, i found Linux interesting because of that, too15:54
GridCubeand now you can understand this joke: ~ sweet ~15:54
GridCube:D15:54
Reptiliahaha15:54
Reptilia:D15:54
ReptiliaGridCube:So, if i reset everything, where are the files that are not @ the Desktop, will be moved to?15:56
GridCubeReptilia: in theory you can use stuff like that when programming, you say you give your program a config file, but you dont know how the username will be, so you need to get the config file from somewhere, you program your program to get the configfile from ~/.config/myprogram, and so you dont bother to learn the username15:56
Reptiliadamn, what a bad formulated question.15:56
GridCubeReptilia: your files are not touched15:57
GridCubethe ones that are missing respawn15:57
Reptiliarespawn hahahaha15:57
GridCubebut the rest remains exactly the same, you are the one deleting or renaming15:57
Reptiliakk15:58
Reptiliathanks15:58
ReptiliaGridCube:Rebooting, brb15:59
GridCubeno need to reboot...15:59
GridCubetoo late XD15:59
ReptiliaGridCube:Nothing is reseted16:01
GridCubeo:16:01
ReptiliaI have deleted the whole xfce4 folder16:01
GridCubebtw you dont need to do a full reboot, just login off and on again should do the trick16:02
Reptiliakk16:02
GridCubehow weird16:02
Reptiliaany ideas? :)16:02
GridCubeare your panels and your desktop background the same as before the change?16:02
TheRotundGollumBtest16:03
ReptiliaGridCube:Yes16:03
GridCubetest failed16:03
TheRotundGollumBit did not16:03
GridCubeReptilia: mmm16:03
GridCubeyes it did16:03
ReptiliaWhen you wrote "test", the separator line moved16:03
TheRotundGollumBbugger. back to the drawing slate16:03
TheRotundGollumBi will whip the gnome responsible16:04
GridCubeReptilia: thats cos' his nic is pretty long16:04
ReptiliaOh, the client got accustomed to his long nickname16:04
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Reptiliahahahaha16:04
GridCubeReptilia: i think you  need to delete the files while not running them16:04
GridCubelike from guest16:05
ReptiliaGridCube:All right, i will do that16:05
GridCubeor log off go to a terminal alt-f1 and login and mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/xfce4old16:05
GridCubeah16:05
ShortGollumi have corruption when my xubuntu screensaver is interrupted. I will pay one potato if someone solves it16:06
ReptiliaGridCube:Hmm, i've noticed this now16:06
ShortGollumi also have no keyboard lights. two potatoes for that one16:06
GridCubeReptilia:  or log off go to a terminal alt-f1 and login and mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/xfce4old16:07
ReptiliaGridCube:In GuestSession, i have 2 battery icons. One is dark grey, and is the same as here on my usr account, and one is white and has the brightness slider feature.16:07
GridCubeShortGollum: sorry i know nothing about those sort of things16:07
ShortGollumits ok me either. i'm a bsd guy through and through16:08
GridCubeReptilia: mmm, try adding the complement of the energy administrator16:08
ShortGollumi think its just an ordinary laptop with manufacturers that haven't yet gone beyond binary blobs16:09
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ReptiliaGridCube:Hmm, where do i find that?16:10
TRGBthis sounds like nonsense, abort rept16:10
GridCuberight clic on the panel > panel > add new element16:11
TRGBdon't stare him in the eyes16:11
TRGBhe'll be able to control you16:12
TRGBwhy is my nick not changing?16:12
GridCubeTRGB: theres an issue with light locker and screensavers, its recommended to use one or the other16:12
GridCubei dunno16:12
TRGBoh ok16:12
TRGBis it sufficient ot apt=remove light-locker or simeimalr?16:13
TRGBsimilar*16:13
GridCubei guess so, you are under your own responsability if you do based on the passing opinion of one dude on an irc channel16:14
TRGBwell i can't recall installing it, and there's no harm in removing it16:14
TRGBi don't mind hosing this laptop16:14
TRGBtempted to try pc-fbsd16:14
ReptiliaTRGB:Dude, i was just checking if i got him right. No need for arrogance.16:15
TRGBhmm?16:15
TRGBdidn't mean to be arrogant16:15
TRGBsry16:15
GridCubeTRGB: its the default locking software for most 'buntus16:15
TRGBhad a few beers16:15
TRGBi come across that way at times without meaning it16:15
GridCubedont fuzz on it16:15
TRGBi'm not16:16
GridCube:D16:16
TRGBkeyboard lights is my next crusade16:16
TRGBdon't have em16:16
TRGBbut i have c/c++ and would like to work out how i'd get the kernel to recognize this asus f550ze16:17
ReptiliaGridCube:Finally16:17
ReptiliaGridCube:Thanks16:17
GridCubeReptilia: :D16:17
GridCubewhat did the trick?16:17
GridCubeTRGB: i read about that a few months ago16:17
ReptiliaAdding the complement16:17
GridCubeabout the lights things16:17
GridCubeso theres hope16:18
ReptiliaYes, it turns out that there are 2 different types of indicators16:18
GridCubeReptilia:great16:18
TRGByeah i've seen snippets16:18
ReptiliaWhich open the same power manager settings16:18
TRGBbut i'd be keen to delve myself16:18
GridCubeReptilia: sounds about right16:18
ReptiliaGridCube:Why there are 2 - i don't know. But it works now, haha16:19
TRGBor better yet, a document on where to start with interfacing with that sort of thing16:19
TRGBbut in the absence of that, i will ha ve a beer16:19
TRGBand a cig16:19
TRGBand curse you peasants for being a text interface16:20
TRGB*curse*16:20
ReptiliaTRGB:What kind of beer have you been drinking?16:20
TRGBcrown lager, its ok16:20
TRGBits apparently made from australian malt16:20
TRGBas opposed to ethiopian malt16:20
ReptiliaTRGB:Hahahahahaah16:21
TRGBwell hammered i guess, i'm sorry. i'm in a bit of a flux of a situation atm16:21
GridCube:)16:21
TRGBand being a pain because of it16:21
GridCube!ot | y'all16:21
ubottuy'all: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!16:21
TRGBmeh. its a faitry quite channel. I'll fix all xubuntus!16:22
GridCuberules are rules, if we dont follow them we would fall into anarchy!16:22
TRGBtrue16:22
TRGBsry16:22
TRGBi will personally fix the hardest c or c++ bug on your plate stm16:22
TRGBatm16:22
GridCubeand nothing good can come from anarchy, what would be next? free open software!?16:23
TRGBwell, anarchy is a misjudged thing16:23
GridCubepreposterous!16:23
TRGBludicrous indeed16:23
GridCubeyes16:23
TRGBnext thing you know, humans will want to be free16:23
GridCubenow i gotta do actual job16:23
GridCubegood farings16:23
TRGBgood day16:24
TRGBi am in between, so i will enjoy another beer16:24
TRGBdoes anyone remember the apple IIgs?16:24
TRGBhow do i change channel to people that might?16:25
holsteinTRGB: they may want to communicate about it in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel.. let us go there and see, since this is for support16:25
TRGBor bards tale16:25
TRGBok sry, i don't mean to be an idiot16:25
TRGBi will remove myself shortly16:25
holsteinTRGB: no need.. just come to the appropriate channel, and chat..16:26
TRGBname was a bit of a giveaway though16:26
TRGBhow do i come to the appropriate channel?16:26
holsteinTRGB: you can use the /join command, or, join channels however your chat client joins channels.. you can /join #xubuntu-offtopic16:26
TRGBno such channel #everquest16:27
TRGBwhat's going on, no everquest?16:27
TRGB#xubuntu-offtopic16:27
holstein /join #xubuntu-offtopic16:28
ReptiliaIs there a way to remove items from an *indicator plugin* ?16:29
TRGBthat was a terrible room holstein, you should be ashamed.16:29
xanguawhat itmes¿ what indicator plugin¿16:29
holsteinTRGB: friend, you have not joined the appropriate channel.. i have not seen you /join it.. please, use this channel for only xubuntu support.. the name of the chat channel is #xubuntu-offtopic ..feel free and copy paste /join #xubuntu-offtopic to avoid typos16:30
Reptiliaxangua:Well, i have the old battery icon (from the indicator plugin (useless)) and the newly added (with the screen brightness slider). Since i don't want the useless one, which is part of the indicator plugin, can i remove it from it?16:30
TRGBI'm kidding, sorry I meant no offense, you've been great. Is IRC sort of federated? how would i get onto say, a freebsd irc chat from here?16:31
holstein!freenode16:31
ubottufreenode is the IRC network that you're on! - See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml - freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml - The Ubuntu channels on freenode also have their own !Guidelines16:31
TRGB!freenode16:31
TRGBi;ve been tricked16:32
TRGBhas the zork highway shut down?16:32
Reptilialol16:32
TRGB!freenode16:32
holsteinTRGB: you can query the bot, and keep non support related typing from the channel.. thanks16:33
TRGBwant some rye. course you do16:34
TRGBok16:34
TheRotundGollumBi have developed a rash on my mouse, and xubuntu installed it17:07
TheRotundGollumBi think its herpes17:08
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xubuntu40wI have a basic question about Linux...20:39
xubuntu40wabout the command cd...20:39
xubuntu40wcan anybody help?20:40
Azelphur!ask | xubuntu40w20:41
ubottuxubuntu40w: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:41
xubuntu40wsorry20:41
Unit193Change directory20:41
xubuntu40wok..20:41
xubuntu40whome/louis/Documents/Open Classrooms/ I can type  cd Documents and cd Open Classrooms20:42
xubuntu40wbut ti doesnt work if I type cd Open Classrooms20:42
xubuntu40wHow to type it?20:42
Azelphurxubuntu40w: you need to quote your arguments, cd sees you trying to cd into "Open" which doesn't exist20:42
Azelphuryou can either escape the space by doing cd Open\ Classrooms20:42
Azelphuror use quotes, cd "Open Classrooms"20:42
Azelphurthe same will actually apply to any command you use - not just cd20:43
xubuntu40wI've just tried your solution.. It works !!  thanks !!20:43
Azelphuryw :)20:44
ax562hello, running windoze 8.1 and xubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit and my ntfs partition fails to mount when I'm in xubuntu.  Any ideas?20:47
Unit193Got an error message?  Generally speaking, one common one would be that you need to boot into Windows, cleanly shut down, then power it back up.20:48
ax562Unit193 that does not work20:49
Unit193That's just a common one, you'll have to actually share some context there. :)20:49
ax562well thanks for the help.  what specifically do you need20:49
ax562?20:49
ax562I was on 12.04 lts and I noticed it recently but never before.  not reason i upgraded but I did come across it...was running xfce4 on ubuntu 12.04 lts and it actually gave me terminal insctructions to fix that worked20:51
Unit193Well, what happens when you try?  Any error messages?  Anything in dmesg, syslog, or such?20:51
ax562ummm I'm a novice to intermediate user..where can I find these logs20:51
Unit193`dmesg` is a command, and /var/log/syslog is a file.20:58
ax562stock text xubuntu app?21:08
ax562blank Unit19321:10
ax562hello, running windoze 8.1 and xubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit and my ntfs partition fails to mount when I'm in xubuntu.  Any ideas?21:30
ajgreenyHi all. New Ubuntu Member here. Hi ax562. Was the Windows ntfs partition unmounted when you tried or was Win8 going into hibernation mode?21:32
ax562ajgreeny no.  I don't hibernate and I shut down correctly21:32
ax562I tried running help instruction set mount -ro or whatever but never worked21:33
ajgreenyAre you sure?  Win8 defaults to a semi hibernation mode when it is shutdown.21:33
ax562well maybe that's my problem21:34
ax562I disable hibernation by default because I use pro tools HD21:34
ax562m21:34
ax562daw (music recording/production)21:35
ajgreenyI don't use windows at all any more, but I understand it can be a bit of a tricky business to make sure it shuts down totally, so double check all that in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI page.21:36
ax562yeah, I only shutdown correctly..I was on 12.04 without a hiccup21:38
ax562but noticed that issue came up recently even on 12.0421:38
ajgreenyNot sure then. Sorry.21:39
ajgreenyWhat error messages show if you try to mount it manually?21:39
ax562Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.21:42
ax562Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Operation not permitted21:42
ax562The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown21:42
ax562Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume21:42
ax562read-only with the 'ro' mount option.21:42
ajgreenySo, as I thought, your ntfs partition is flagged as still mounted, or in use.  I will have to let you search for the reason why, as I don't know anything more about Win8. Got to go now; sorry I can't help more, but at least you now know the reason for your mount problem, now you just need a solution and that's where I can't help.21:45
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