[08:36] hey [08:36] bye [08:57] How do i make Xubuntu remember my brightness level setup for the next boot? On every new boot i have to re-adjust the brightness to the desired level, and the OS won't remember my choice. Also, i can't find a GUI for changing the brightness on Xubuntu. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. [09:08] Reptilia for a GUI install xfce4-power-manager [09:09] then add brightness plugin to your panel [09:10] Luyin:Thanks. Will that solve the problem with the brightness level? [09:11] Reptilia I don't think so, no [09:12] Reptilia https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=9091&p=2 post #40 [09:13] 39 and 40* [09:14] Luyin:I can't find a brightness plugin as an option [09:14] Reptilia did you install the package I was referring to? [09:15] Luyin:Yup, and the terminal printed that "xfce4-power-manager" was in the latest version [09:18] Semiarty:Thanks, but...i want to make it work in the "regular way". If i don't find a regular way, i will try that for sure :) [09:18] Reptilia I've only got the german interface, so don't know what the correct name is, but it might be something like "power management" [09:22] Luyin:Yup, i already have that plugin on my panel, but there it only shows the battery percentage, no brightness options. [09:24] Reptilia you ought to be able to scroll the mouse scroll wheel on the panel symbol to increase/decrease display brightness, and you should be able to click on the symbol to see brightness options [09:25] Luyin:Nope, there is no such thing [09:27] Reptilia http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/panel-plugin [09:33] Luyin:Yup i know, it used to be fine on previous versions, i have recently noticed that the brightness slider is gone. [09:34] Luyin:I have been setting it manually on every boot, but got tired of doing that all the time [09:37] what happened before you noticed the slider was gone? did you do a full system upgrade, installed/removed any packages? [09:40] Luyin:Full sys update no, but i've done several updates [09:41] Reptilia try doing a full upgrade (sudo apt upadte && sudo apt dist-upgrade), reboot, and try again. if that doesn't work, you might want to file a bug report. I have no idea what else could cause this. someone else might have a better idea, though [09:42] Luyin:Actually there wasn't a brightness slider since i've installed the OS, but the OS used to remember my brightness level setup, so i didn't have to set it again on every boot. I think an update ~ 10 days ago changed this. [09:49] Reptilia which ubuntu version have you got installed? [09:50] 14.04 [09:50] I've done the update, as you suggested [09:51] rebooting [09:53] Luyin:Nah, still the same [09:54] Reptilia I'm just checking whether the slider ought to be at a different place in XFCE 4.10, since I'm on 4.12 here via ppa. wait a sec [09:54] Luyin:Sure [09:55] From my experience 14.04 has never saved my brightness setting between boots. [09:56] Reptilia seems like also in 4.10 the xfce4-power-manager is responsible for the brightness plugin. so there should be a brightness plugin somewhere in your panel items [09:56] if it isn't, I have no idea why yours isn't showing [10:00] Well, i will do a 15.04 update then [10:00] Since Meerkat also said that he has encountered the same problem [10:01] on 14.04 [10:09] it's more that I haven't encountered a working 14.04 version yet [10:21] Meerkat:Haha :D [10:25] I've changed my cursor theme to dmz black. but on some elements, like the window panes, in hexchat, and on the xfdesktop, I still get the white dmz cursor. how can I fix that? [11:29] I've updated to 14.10 and again, there is no brightness slider. [11:30] Reptilia: i'm not sure what version of xfce4-power-manager we shipped in 14.10, but the one in 15.04 has a brightness slider [11:30] the panel plugin you're looking for is called "Power Manager Plugin" [11:31] ochosi:Yup, that's the one without the brightness slider. Thanks [11:31] ochosi:Cool theme colors in 14.10 btw (the default purple :)) [11:31] thanks :) [11:31] purple/rose [11:31] 14.10 was already so long ago i practically forgot about it already ;) [11:32] ochosi:Also, i've noticed that the app execution time is lowered [11:32] we didn't do anything about that though. at least not specifically [11:32] Yeah, but it's noticeable, don't know what could be the cause [11:33] Like, it's more instant :D [11:33] ochosi:K, i will update to 15.04 then [11:35] can we get that slider backported to 14.04? [11:40] Meerkat: you can do that at your own risk by using some of our PPAs, but we won't do that [11:40] 14.04 is about stability, and there's some risk things will go awry with xfpm and light-locker [11:43] I understand. Has any work for 16.04 begun? Even at a planning stage? [11:44] Meerkat, WIP [11:46] ochosi:What about the #1395720 bug? Have you resolved the issue? [11:46] ochosi:This is the first time i am reading release notes, lol [11:46] Meerkat: 15.10 is the next release [11:49] bug 1395720 [11:49] bug 1395720 in catfish (Ubuntu) "authentication in livesession accepts any value as password" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1395720 [11:50] that's not even a bug imo [11:57] ochosi:You're right. A Live session, lol. Forgot what a live session was [11:57] what is catfish used for? [11:58] !info catfish [11:58] catfish (source: catfish): File searching tool which is configurable via the command line. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-1 (vivid), package size 76 kB, installed size 807 kB [12:33] ochosi:Nope, the brightness slider is missing again, after the 15.04 update. xfce4-power-manager says it's in the latest version [12:34] Reptilia: then it's possible your display brightness control isn't supported, sry [12:38] ochosi:hmm [13:14] Is it safe to remove xfce4-power-manager, and install it again? [13:37] Is it safe to remove xfce4-power-manager, and install it again? [13:41] Xubuntu 15.04 will show the brightness slider while i am in a Guest Session. The whole look of the window that opens when i click on the battery icon, is different from the one on my usr account. [14:15] Xubuntu 15.04 will show the brightness slider while i am in a Guest Session. The whole look of the window that opens when i click on the battery icon, is different from the one on my usr account. [15:16] Xubuntu 15.04 will show the brightness slider while i am in a Guest Session. The whole look of the window that opens when i click on the battery icon, is different from the one on my usr account. [15:18] Reptilia: if you upgraded your system you might be carrying old desktop theme configs, you can delete those and relogin, you will get the exact same desktop than guest [15:18] its just common sense not to overwrite them, usually people changes the desktop theme to their liking, like adding more launchers and what not [15:18] i personally like to use my panels in vertical mode P: [15:37] GridCube:All right then, how do i delete the old desktop theme configuration? [15:40] Reptilia: rename or delete ~/.config/xfce4/panel [15:40] and relog [15:42] in fact if you just delete the whole ~/.config/xfce4 you will get the desktop reseted as if its the first boot :) [15:43] GridCube:What is the usage of "~"? [15:46] ~ means /home/yourusername/ [15:46] thanks [15:47] or whatever is your home, if you are root in other OSs it could also mean /root/, its basically the home folder for the current user [15:47] its like . and .., which means "in this directory" and "in they up directory to this one" thats why you cd .. :D [15:48] thats also why you execute scripts by ./script.sh, becase the . means "excute this file in this directory" P: [15:51] Reptilia: notice how if you open a terminal it will say something like, rept@tilia:~$ as your prompt :) [15:51] but if you cd anywhere else the ~ changes to the current directory name :D [15:52] GridCube:Damn, i didn't know that's the reason for the ./ thing :D [15:52] :D [15:52] GridCube:I have been using that while i was the C course at my uni [15:53] :) [15:53] while i was learning* [15:53] thanks [15:53] its simple things like this that i find awesome of the linuxverse, almost everything has a why [15:54] GridCube:Yeah, i found Linux interesting because of that, too [15:54] and now you can understand this joke: ~ sweet ~ [15:54] :D [15:54] haha [15:54] :D [15:56] GridCube:So, if i reset everything, where are the files that are not @ the Desktop, will be moved to? [15:56] Reptilia: in theory you can use stuff like that when programming, you say you give your program a config file, but you dont know how the username will be, so you need to get the config file from somewhere, you program your program to get the configfile from ~/.config/myprogram, and so you dont bother to learn the username [15:56] damn, what a bad formulated question. [15:57] Reptilia: your files are not touched [15:57] the ones that are missing respawn [15:57] respawn hahahaha [15:57] but the rest remains exactly the same, you are the one deleting or renaming [15:58] kk [15:58] thanks [15:59] GridCube:Rebooting, brb [15:59] no need to reboot... [15:59] too late XD [16:01] GridCube:Nothing is reseted [16:01] o: [16:01] I have deleted the whole xfce4 folder [16:02] btw you dont need to do a full reboot, just login off and on again should do the trick [16:02] kk [16:02] how weird [16:02] any ideas? :) [16:02] are your panels and your desktop background the same as before the change? [16:03] test [16:03] GridCube:Yes [16:03] test failed [16:03] it did not [16:03] Reptilia: mmm [16:03] yes it did [16:03] When you wrote "test", the separator line moved [16:03] bugger. back to the drawing slate [16:04] i will whip the gnome responsible [16:04] Reptilia: thats cos' his nic is pretty long [16:04] Oh, the client got accustomed to his long nickname === TheRotundGollumB is now known as ShortGollum [16:04] hahahaha [16:04] Reptilia: i think you need to delete the files while not running them [16:05] like from guest [16:05] GridCube:All right, i will do that [16:05] or log off go to a terminal alt-f1 and login and mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/xfce4old [16:05] ah [16:06] i have corruption when my xubuntu screensaver is interrupted. I will pay one potato if someone solves it [16:06] GridCube:Hmm, i've noticed this now [16:06] i also have no keyboard lights. two potatoes for that one [16:07] Reptilia: or log off go to a terminal alt-f1 and login and mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/xfce4old [16:07] GridCube:In GuestSession, i have 2 battery icons. One is dark grey, and is the same as here on my usr account, and one is white and has the brightness slider feature. [16:07] ShortGollum: sorry i know nothing about those sort of things [16:08] its ok me either. i'm a bsd guy through and through [16:08] Reptilia: mmm, try adding the complement of the energy administrator [16:09] i think its just an ordinary laptop with manufacturers that haven't yet gone beyond binary blobs === ShortGollum is now known as TRGB [16:10] GridCube:Hmm, where do i find that? [16:10] this sounds like nonsense, abort rept [16:11] right clic on the panel > panel > add new element [16:11] don't stare him in the eyes [16:12] he'll be able to control you [16:12] why is my nick not changing? [16:12] TRGB: theres an issue with light locker and screensavers, its recommended to use one or the other [16:12] i dunno [16:12] oh ok [16:13] is it sufficient ot apt=remove light-locker or simeimalr? [16:13] similar* [16:14] i guess so, you are under your own responsability if you do based on the passing opinion of one dude on an irc channel [16:14] well i can't recall installing it, and there's no harm in removing it [16:14] i don't mind hosing this laptop [16:14] tempted to try pc-fbsd [16:15] TRGB:Dude, i was just checking if i got him right. No need for arrogance. [16:15] hmm? [16:15] didn't mean to be arrogant [16:15] sry [16:15] TRGB: its the default locking software for most 'buntus [16:15] had a few beers [16:15] i come across that way at times without meaning it [16:15] dont fuzz on it [16:16] i'm not [16:16] :D [16:16] keyboard lights is my next crusade [16:16] don't have em [16:17] but i have c/c++ and would like to work out how i'd get the kernel to recognize this asus f550ze [16:17] GridCube:Finally [16:17] GridCube:Thanks [16:17] Reptilia: :D [16:17] what did the trick? [16:17] TRGB: i read about that a few months ago [16:17] Adding the complement [16:17] about the lights things [16:18] so theres hope [16:18] Yes, it turns out that there are 2 different types of indicators [16:18] Reptilia:great [16:18] yeah i've seen snippets [16:18] Which open the same power manager settings [16:18] but i'd be keen to delve myself [16:18] Reptilia: sounds about right [16:19] GridCube:Why there are 2 - i don't know. But it works now, haha [16:19] or better yet, a document on where to start with interfacing with that sort of thing [16:19] but in the absence of that, i will ha ve a beer [16:19] and a cig [16:20] and curse you peasants for being a text interface [16:20] *curse* [16:20] TRGB:What kind of beer have you been drinking? [16:20] crown lager, its ok [16:20] its apparently made from australian malt [16:20] as opposed to ethiopian malt [16:21] TRGB:Hahahahahaah [16:21] well hammered i guess, i'm sorry. i'm in a bit of a flux of a situation atm [16:21] :) [16:21] and being a pain because of it [16:21] !ot | y'all [16:21] y'all: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [16:22] meh. its a faitry quite channel. I'll fix all xubuntus! [16:22] rules are rules, if we dont follow them we would fall into anarchy! [16:22] true [16:22] sry [16:22] i will personally fix the hardest c or c++ bug on your plate stm [16:22] atm [16:23] and nothing good can come from anarchy, what would be next? free open software!? [16:23] well, anarchy is a misjudged thing [16:23] preposterous! [16:23] ludicrous indeed [16:23] yes [16:23] next thing you know, humans will want to be free [16:23] now i gotta do actual job [16:23] good farings [16:24] good day [16:24] i am in between, so i will enjoy another beer [16:24] does anyone remember the apple IIgs? [16:25] how do i change channel to people that might? [16:25] TRGB: they may want to communicate about it in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel.. let us go there and see, since this is for support [16:25] or bards tale [16:25] ok sry, i don't mean to be an idiot [16:25] i will remove myself shortly [16:26] TRGB: no need.. just come to the appropriate channel, and chat.. [16:26] name was a bit of a giveaway though [16:26] how do i come to the appropriate channel? [16:26] TRGB: you can use the /join command, or, join channels however your chat client joins channels.. you can /join #xubuntu-offtopic [16:27] no such channel #everquest [16:27] what's going on, no everquest? [16:27] #xubuntu-offtopic [16:28] /join #xubuntu-offtopic [16:29] Is there a way to remove items from an *indicator plugin* ? [16:29] that was a terrible room holstein, you should be ashamed. [16:29] what itmes¿ what indicator plugin¿ [16:30] TRGB: friend, you have not joined the appropriate channel.. i have not seen you /join it.. please, use this channel for only xubuntu support.. the name of the chat channel is #xubuntu-offtopic ..feel free and copy paste /join #xubuntu-offtopic to avoid typos [16:30] xangua:Well, i have the old battery icon (from the indicator plugin (useless)) and the newly added (with the screen brightness slider). Since i don't want the useless one, which is part of the indicator plugin, can i remove it from it? [16:31] I'm kidding, sorry I meant no offense, you've been great. Is IRC sort of federated? how would i get onto say, a freebsd irc chat from here? [16:31] !freenode [16:31] freenode is the IRC network that you're on! - See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml - freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml - The Ubuntu channels on freenode also have their own !Guidelines [16:31] !freenode [16:32] i;ve been tricked [16:32] has the zork highway shut down? [16:32] lol [16:32] !freenode [16:33] TRGB: you can query the bot, and keep non support related typing from the channel.. thanks [16:34] want some rye. course you do [16:34] ok [17:07] i have developed a rash on my mouse, and xubuntu installed it [17:08] i think its herpes === IdleOne is now known as Guest13657 === Guest13657 is now known as IdleOne [18:03] . === Azelphur is now known as `Azelphur === `Azelphur is now known as Azelphur [19:51] sage [20:39] I have a basic question about Linux... [20:39] about the command cd... [20:40] can anybody help? [20:41] !ask | xubuntu40w [20:41] xubuntu40w: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [20:41] sorry [20:41] Change directory [20:41] ok.. [20:42] home/louis/Documents/Open Classrooms/ I can type cd Documents and cd Open Classrooms [20:42] but ti doesnt work if I type cd Open Classrooms [20:42] How to type it? [20:42] xubuntu40w: you need to quote your arguments, cd sees you trying to cd into "Open" which doesn't exist [20:42] you can either escape the space by doing cd Open\ Classrooms [20:42] or use quotes, cd "Open Classrooms" [20:43] the same will actually apply to any command you use - not just cd [20:43] I've just tried your solution.. It works !! thanks !! [20:44] yw :) [20:47] hello, running windoze 8.1 and xubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit and my ntfs partition fails to mount when I'm in xubuntu. Any ideas? [20:48] Got an error message? Generally speaking, one common one would be that you need to boot into Windows, cleanly shut down, then power it back up. [20:49] Unit193 that does not work [20:49] That's just a common one, you'll have to actually share some context there. :) [20:49] well thanks for the help. what specifically do you need [20:49] ? [20:51] I was on 12.04 lts and I noticed it recently but never before. not reason i upgraded but I did come across it...was running xfce4 on ubuntu 12.04 lts and it actually gave me terminal insctructions to fix that worked [20:51] Well, what happens when you try? Any error messages? Anything in dmesg, syslog, or such? [20:51] ummm I'm a novice to intermediate user..where can I find these logs [20:58] `dmesg` is a command, and /var/log/syslog is a file. [21:08] stock text xubuntu app? [21:10] blank Unit193 [21:30] hello, running windoze 8.1 and xubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit and my ntfs partition fails to mount when I'm in xubuntu. Any ideas? [21:32] Hi all. New Ubuntu Member here. Hi ax562. Was the Windows ntfs partition unmounted when you tried or was Win8 going into hibernation mode? [21:32] ajgreeny no. I don't hibernate and I shut down correctly [21:33] I tried running help instruction set mount -ro or whatever but never worked [21:33] Are you sure? Win8 defaults to a semi hibernation mode when it is shutdown. [21:34] well maybe that's my problem [21:34] I disable hibernation by default because I use pro tools HD [21:34] m [21:35] daw (music recording/production) [21:36] I don't use windows at all any more, but I understand it can be a bit of a tricky business to make sure it shuts down totally, so double check all that in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI page. [21:38] yeah, I only shutdown correctly..I was on 12.04 without a hiccup [21:38] but noticed that issue came up recently even on 12.04 [21:39] Not sure then. Sorry. [21:39] What error messages show if you try to mount it manually? [21:42] Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. [21:42] Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Operation not permitted [21:42] The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown [21:42] Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume [21:42] read-only with the 'ro' mount option. [21:45] So, as I thought, your ntfs partition is flagged as still mounted, or in use. I will have to let you search for the reason why, as I don't know anything more about Win8. Got to go now; sorry I can't help more, but at least you now know the reason for your mount problem, now you just need a solution and that's where I can't help. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang