[00:06] <Private_User> LOL I just visited the system76 site and customized the top of the range server, desktop and laptop with all the bells and whistles and it came to R908 938.16...
[00:06] <Private_User> lol
[00:07] <Private_User> how much you guys think I can build the same stuff buying hardware locally which is all compatible with ubuntu?
[00:07] <Private_User> rough estimate I intend to use each of the above to it maximum i.e. it will serve multiple purposes all at the same time
[00:08] <Private_User> just looking at how much I will need to budget for
[00:09] <Private_User> or save up before I can do it or maybe do 1 at a time
[00:16] <squish102> anyone have an idea how i can keep a backup of messages from a facebook group
[05:51] <MaNI> 908k lol what did you put in it?
[05:52] <barrydk> Goodmorning everyone
[06:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:27] <Kilos> morning barrydk  and others
[06:29] <barrydk> hi Kilos wat gebeur jys nogal vroeg vanmore
[06:29] <barrydk> nie koud genoeg nie?
[06:29] <Kilos> besluit om maar koud te kry
[06:30] <Kilos> baie klere aan maar kry eina koud
[06:30] <barrydk> toemaar die somer kom
[06:30] <Kilos> lol
[06:34] <barrydk> Jy moet mar 'n groot vuur bou, netnie die veld aan die brand steek nie, ons het hoeka gister vuur gaan veg hier naby ons
[06:35] <Kilos> ai!
[06:35] <barrydk> Ons nasionale wintersport
[06:36] <Kilos> ja
[06:42] <mazal> Morning
[06:42] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[06:45]  * mazal mumbels a lot of crude words
[06:45] <Kilos> lol
[06:45] <magespawn> good morning
[06:45] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[06:46] <mazal> Kyk ek dink die ersgte hitte is nou verby
[06:46] <mazal> ergste*
[06:47] <Kilos> haha
[06:47] <mazal> Hi magespawn
[06:51] <superfly> ohi
[06:52] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[06:54] <magespawn> hey superfly mazal 
[06:54] <magespawn> todays project is find a small debian based distro to run on a old laptop
[06:55] <Kilos> how small
[06:56] <superfly> magespawn: just use Debian. It's not Ubuntu.
[06:57] <superfly> magespawn: Download the minimal Debian, and then install LXqt or XFCE
[06:58] <magespawn> i have had a look at puppy and slitaz so far, not debian based but what the hell
[06:58] <magespawn> superfly: does debian come without a default desktop?
[07:07] <Kilos> magespawn  what specs for the lappy
[07:08] <magespawn> Kilos: do not have it with me the moment, will have to get that tomorrow
[07:09] <magespawn> 512 ram i think, used to have xp on it, but it is now running the latest ubuntu server
[07:09] <Kilos> imo under 2.8g dual with less than 2g ram is too much for ubuntu
[07:10] <Kilos> too weak
[07:11] <magespawn> this is the server, no unity, or any desktop actually
[07:11] <Kilos> oh you want to run server?
[07:12] <magespawn> not particularly, this is just a machine i try things out on
[07:13] <Kilos> eish , min ram man
[07:13] <magespawn> yes
[07:14] <inetpro> good mornings 
[07:14] <magespawn> have got puppy, slitaz and debian minimal, so i will give them all a try, and see whats what
[07:14] <magespawn> hi inetpro 
[07:14] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[07:19] <superfly> magespawn: the desktop install comes with Gnome 3
[07:29] <magespawn> okay thanks superfly 
[07:31] <Kilos> magespawn  https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/780781-6-excellent-lightweight-linux-distros-for-x86-and-arm
[07:48] <magespawn> thanks Kilos 
[08:04] <Kilos> hope you find something lad
[08:04] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  
[08:05] <nlsthzn> o/
[08:05]  * nlsthzn needs to reboot >.< bbl
[08:09] <magespawn> thanks Kilos, this is more for experimenting than anything else, so it is not serious
[08:10] <nlsthzn> and I am back :)
[08:12] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn  
[08:12] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos ?
[08:12] <Kilos> cold ty and you?
[08:13] <nlsthzn> hot I guess 
[08:13] <Kilos> lol
[08:13] <Kilos> we max 15° today
[08:15] <nlsthzn> our "summer" starts from the 21st apparently... temps of above 50degC and in some places in the open caught in the sun it will go above 70degC... if I hadn't read it on a news site from here I wouldn't have thought it possible
[08:17] <inetpro> yikes!
[08:17] <inetpro> just had a lekker dip in power here in Hatfield
[08:17] <Kilos> wow
[08:18] <Kilos> uh oh
[08:18]  * inetpro wonders what failed
[08:18] <Kilos> the wind is blowing
[08:21] <nlsthzn> sucks
[08:41] <Mopkop> Good morning friends!
[08:41] <Kilos> hi Mopkop  how are you lad
[08:42] <Mopkop> I have a lot to be thankful for, thank you! And you?
[08:42] <Kilos> good ty, just cold
[08:43] <Mopkop> Indeed. Sorry for disappearing again. What did I miss?
[08:44] <Kilos> load shedding chats
[08:44] <Kilos> complaints, jokes etc
[08:46] <MaNI> and an unanswered question about a R900k laptop
[08:46] <Kilos> what was that about MaNI  ?
[08:46] <Kilos> i missed that
[08:47] <Kilos> R900k seems kinda heavy
[08:47] <Mopkop> Kinda...
[08:49] <MaNI> [02:06] <Private_User> LOL I just visited the system76 site and customized the top of the range server, desktop and laptop with all the bells and whistles and it came to R908 938.16...
[08:49] <MaNI> [02:06] <Private_User> lol
[08:49] <MaNI> [02:07] <Private_User> how much you guys think I can build the same stuff buying hardware locally which is all compatible with ubuntu?
[08:49] <MaNI> [02:07] <Private_User> rough estimate I intend to use each of the above to it maximum i.e. it will serve multiple purposes all at the same time
[08:49] <MaNI> I don't know what to say :P
[08:55] <Mopkop> The same stuff? Hmm, I'm guessing it is the server that cost so much? I doubt that he can make a top of the range server for very cheap.
[08:56] <MaNI> define top of the range, there is always something better :p
[10:49] <gremble> Good morning
[10:49] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[10:49] <Kilos> afternoon
[10:50] <gremble> I am done with my exams LD
[10:50] <gremble> :D
[10:50] <Kilos> how did it go?
[10:50] <gremble> Phoned the highschool and told them I will help with Winter School for the matrics
[10:50] <gremble> it went well, I would say
[10:50] <Kilos> good 
[10:51] <Kilos> what is winter school
[10:52] <gremble> Some schools struggle to get through the matric curriculum, mostly state schools. So there is a winter school that is two weeks in the June/July holiday where the learners can come and either get help with work, or more attention can be given to the neccesary parts in the curriculum
[10:52] <Kilos> ah
[10:52] <gremble> Some schools have it as optional extras but for the others they need it to get through all the work for the students
[10:53] <gremble> I offered to help out Hoerskool Tuine as it is close by
[10:53] <Kilos> good
[10:53] <Kilos> do you speak afrikaans?
[10:54] <gremble> Yup. 
[10:54] <Kilos> cool
[10:54] <gremble> Bilingual
[10:54] <gremble> My english is better though. Even though I've been put through an Afrikaans education :P
[10:55] <Kilos> enjoy teaching the young
[10:56] <gremble> I doubt it. I'm not a fan. However, I can imagine that they need someone who isn't tired of their shit and enjoys the subject every once in a while
[10:56] <gremble> :P
[11:24] <magespawn> gremble: what would you teach?
[11:24] <gremble> Mathematics
[11:24] <magespawn> a lot of people need help with that subject
[11:25] <gremble> (Or NatSci, but I don't like chemistry that much, so I'm hoping it is mathematics)
[11:25] <gremble> Yup. That is why I am volunteering
[11:25] <magespawn> you could probably do physics too then
[11:25] <gremble> I missed out with doing community work last year at a school. So I am trying again this year
[11:25] <gremble> Albeit a bit late
[11:26] <magespawn> better late then never
[11:26] <gremble> Sadly that seems to be my motto
[11:26] <gremble> xD
[11:55] <mazal> How can I dig a rope out , just the rope without the box ?
[11:56] <mazal> I have an old one hanging about and can't dig it with any tool I try
[11:56] <mazal> Ag , wrong window sorry guys
[11:59] <gremble> Good. I was starting to think I was in the wrong place
[11:59] <Kilos> lol
[11:59] <mazal> lol
[12:41] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a nice evening , God bless
[13:22] <magespawn> later all
[13:22] <Kilos> toods  magespawn  
[13:42] <MaNI> sigh, there always has to be one problem neighbor :/
[13:44] <Kilos> lol
[14:34] <mazal> Hallo and goodbye
[14:35] <Kilos> bye
[14:35] <mazal> I'm off to a VERY warm bath :P
[14:35] <Kilos> lol
[16:01] <z3r009> sup 
[16:02] <Kilos> hi z3r009  
[16:02] <Kilos> cold
[16:03] <z3r009> what's happening?
[16:04] <Kilos> no9t much i think
[16:04] <Kilos> not
[16:07] <z3r009> a lot of waiting goes on here. What's in the agenda link? i dont have the data to click links right now
[16:08] <Kilos> agenda for the next meeting?
[16:08] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/1Gjg7kb
[16:09] <z3r009> Oh, it's a meeting
[16:09] <Kilos> it sucks when you got data shortages hey
[16:09] <Kilos> ya thats for the 23rd
[16:09] <Kilos> our monthly meeting
[16:09] <Kilos> anyone can add what they think might be interesting
[16:10] <z3r009> what usually happens at these?
[16:10] <Kilos> we discuss things of interest to ubuntu-za and so on
[16:13] <Kilos> you should try attend
[16:13] <z3r009> brb just gotta restart hexchat
[16:13] <Kilos> ok
[16:17] <Kilos> wb z3r009  
[16:22] <inetpro> ai tog! 
[16:22] <Kilos> ai!
[16:22] <Kilos> shame
[16:23] <inetpro> loadshedding is on again... fortunately not by me this evening 
[16:23] <Kilos> ai!
[16:24] <Cryterion> got notified 1hr behind, and in it now
[16:24] <Cryterion> before*
[16:24] <Kilos> ai!
[16:24] <Cryterion> for 2hrs
[16:24] <Kilos> got notified how
[16:24] <Cryterion> gridwatch, phone beeped
[16:25] <Kilos> if mine goes off at 8 im going to bed
[16:25] <Kilos> can that gridwatch id your area from your fone? 
[16:26] <Cryterion> You set it
[16:26] <Cryterion> or select from list
[16:26] <Kilos> hahaha i dunno what area they see me as
[16:26] <Kilos> those lists dont pinpoint my area
[16:26] <inetpro> still no response from the city council? 
[16:27] <Kilos> about?
[16:27] <Kilos> oh the mail i sent
[16:27] <Kilos> no nothing
[16:27] <Cryterion> lol, My dad's place somehow lands in a section off an industrial area, so hardly gets load scheduled atm
[16:27] <Kilos> nor from the tweet methinks
[16:27] <Kilos> he lucky
[16:50] <Kilos> uh oh sticky broke something
[16:54] <Kilos> stickyboy  stop breaking things
[16:57]  * Cryterion will probably ping timeout just now when his laptop battery dies
[16:57] <Kilos> ai!
[16:58] <Cryterion> 22 mins left lol, and still an hour of load scheduling
[16:58] <Kilos> eina
[16:58] <Kilos> dim your screen
[16:58] <Kilos> and close everything except irc
[17:01] <z3r009> i say go crazy, do everything at once, turn that 22min of powersaving into 4min of untamed power usage
[17:01] <z3r009> live in the moment
[17:01] <Kilos> lol
[17:02] <z3r009> youre gonna run out of power, that's inevitable just do it on you terms man xD
[17:03] <inetpro> Cryterion: switch to your mobile for IRC
[17:04] <Cryterion> lol, screen stays dim anyway, normally even at min is normally too bright for me, just haven't figured out how to change all white backgrounds to a grey
[17:04] <Cryterion> inetpro, will just now
[17:06] <Cryterion> What does everyone else use for irc on android, currently using andchat which seems fine to me
[17:07] <z3r009> me 2, it's the only one i've tried
[17:08] <z3r009> chose it coz it was first on the list.
[17:08] <Cryterion> Others I've tried just don't work nicely, they work, but andchat seems the easiest
[17:10] <Cryterion> anyone know a way to get your pvt key onto SSHclient for android?
[17:11] <z3r009> i don't. which sshclient do you use?
[17:12] <Cryterion> called SSH Client in shop by Anstudios Ltd
[17:13] <Cryterion> Image has a screen with prompt
[17:16] <z3r009> you gonna ssh to your laptop?
[17:18] <Cryterion> No, can only ssh into the various servers from laptop, can't on phone
[17:18] <Cryterion> Not important now, will email them
[17:43] <inetpro> I guess we all need to learn, adapt and even start to prepare food before 17:00 in the evening 
[17:44] <Kilos> we tried that and had cuts anytime from middday
[17:44] <Kilos> now sis starts cooking at 7am
[17:44] <Cryterion> Generator and gas stove help big time
[17:45] <inetpro> Kilos: peak load is at 18:00 in the evening now 
[17:45] <inetpro> see http://www.poweralert.co.za/poweralert5/index.php?location=online
[17:46]  * Cryterion is still surprised at how long the last 5% of anything on a pc can take
[17:47] <Kilos> ok
[17:49] <Kilos> so what does the red arrow at 17.30 mean
[17:50] <Kilos> last night?
[17:51] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:51] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean 19:30?
[17:51] <Kilos> oh ya sorry
[17:52] <inetpro> Kilos: what's the time now?
[17:52] <Cryterion--> 19:51
[17:52] <Kilos> 19.43
[17:52] <inetpro> no
[17:52] <Kilos> 53
[17:52] <inetpro> ah... better, thank you
[17:52] <Kilos> 52 sorry
[17:52] <Kilos> lol
[17:53] <inetpro> now look towards the right
[17:53] <inetpro> "PLEASE NOTE: The trend display indicates Power Alert states in half hour intervals only."
[17:53] <Kilos> yes
[17:53] <Kilos> saw that
[17:53] <inetpro> which means?
[17:53] <inetpro> 19:30 is the current half hour interval
[17:54] <Kilos> means that no more shedding after 20.00
[17:54] <inetpro> no
[17:54] <inetpro> it's black all the way up to before 22
[17:54] <Kilos> well graph stops at 20
[17:54] <inetpro> ai!
[17:55] <inetpro> Kilos: that is tomorrow
[17:55] <Kilos> oh
[17:55] <Kilos> black means what
[17:56] <Cryterion--> no power to light it up
[17:56] <Kilos> lol
[17:56] <inetpro> Kilos: click on "How does it work?"
[17:56] <Kilos> ok
[17:57] <Kilos> ai!
[17:58] <Kilos> well ive made my hot water bottle
[17:58] <inetpro> ai!
[17:58] <Kilos> so if im gone in 2 mins goodnight
[17:58] <Cryterion--> lol
[17:58] <inetpro> you used someone else's power?
[17:59] <Kilos> no man no cut here today
[17:59] <inetpro> the more you use the less there is for someone else
[17:59] <Kilos> i didnt make a mug of tea
[18:00] <Kilos> made a hot water bottle instead
[18:00] <Kilos> which do you prefer me to do
[18:00] <Cryterion--> it's not that cold tonight
[18:00] <Kilos> eish
[18:01] <Kilos> you in ct?
[18:01] <Cryterion--> power is back
[18:01] <Cryterion--> nah dbn
[18:01] <Kilos> oi durbanites cant talk about cold
[18:02] <Cryterion--> true we just don't get much of it
[18:02] <Kilos> you have never seen outside water taps freeze solid till 10am of even later
[18:02] <Cryterion--> hmmm. midlands kzn as a kid. i do know it
[18:02] <Kilos> ah
[18:03] <Kilos> midlands where?
[18:09] <Cryterion-> boston and underberg
[18:09] <Kilos> oh ya cold in underburg
[18:09] <Cryterion-> bbiab. eating dinner
[18:09] <Kilos> k
[18:09] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:10] <inetpro> Kilos: it's not so cold this evening
[18:10] <Kilos> sjoe, i think its colder than last night
[18:11] <inetpro> we've had much colder days in previous years
[18:11] <Kilos> yes dont worry the worst is still coming
[18:11] <inetpro> I guess the cold is still coming, but certainly not cold just yet
[18:12] <Kilos> some peach trees still have leaves here
[18:12] <Kilos> and the mulberries
[18:12] <Kilos> normally they all dropped by now
[18:12] <inetpro> exactly
[18:13] <Kilos> why didnt you help me explain what our meetings are about????
[18:15] <inetpro> Kilos: uh, serious!?
[18:15] <Kilos> ya
[18:15] <inetpro> when?
[18:16] <Kilos> 17/06/2015 18:10] <z3r009> what usually happens at these?
[18:17] <inetpro> Kilos: that is my family time... I can chat now
[18:18] <Kilos> he ran out of data again
[18:18] <inetpro> sorry, can't help with that
[18:18] <Kilos> ok
[18:30] <inetpro> wb Cryterion
[18:33] <Kilos> ohi superfly  ThatGraemeGuy  
[18:34] <inetpro> Vacant Developer Membership Board seat: Call for nominations http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/06/17/vacant-developer-membership-board-seat-call-for-nominations-4/
[18:35] <inetpro> superfly: if you were not so busy I would nominate you for that ^^
[18:37] <Cryterion> tks
[18:41] <Kilos> hi spinza  
[18:47] <spinza> hey Kilos 
[19:05] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:05] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[19:05] <Kilos> keep warm
[19:35] <Cryterion> Night Everyone