[00:01] <olabaz> hey I ran an upgrade of programs and I got "a new version of configuration file /etc/default/grub is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified. What do you want to do about modified configuration file grub?" what should i choose here?
[00:02] <Jordan_U> olabaz: Please pastebin your current /etc/default/grub.
[00:03] <olabaz> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/mfxG591h
[00:05] <hplc> &join #security
[00:05] <histo> olabaz: keep the current one
[00:06] <olabaz> ok thanks
[00:06] <Jordan_U> olabaz: Why did you add "GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT="false""? false is the default for that setting.
[00:06] <histo> olabaz: your current one differs from the default version the package provides. If you want to keep the version you modified then you would keep your local one.
[00:06] <olabaz> I don't remember doing anything
[00:06] <histo> olabaz: the timeout ljooks non default also
[00:07] <ubuntu925> sat-buddhi: Can you pastebin the update and give the channel an url
[00:07] <histo> also the cmdline
[00:08] <Jordan_U> histo: I *think* the cmdline will be preserved, as it's stored in debconf variable grub2/linux_cmdline_default .
[00:08] <histo> TJ-: how does the hard drive affect his ability to get into the firmware that's the part I don't get.
[00:08] <olabaz> oh I changed cmd b/c my keyboard wouldn't work and it didn't fix the problem -_-
[00:09] <TJ-> histo: I assume that if the firmware boot-handler can't find an ESP it drops into Setup as the only other option.
[00:09] <Jordan_U> histo: If the boot firmware can't boot an OS then it realizes that showing the user a setup screen is probably better than shutting down again or just sitting there not accepting any input.
[00:09] <TJ-> histo: That's been the accepted way of handling a missing boot device as far back as I can remember
[00:10] <Jordan_U> olabaz: If there are changes in /etc/default/grub that you didn't actually intend to make, then maybe using the package maintainer's version is a good idea, and as a bonus it will prevent this prompt from appearing again from future updates.
[00:11] <olabaz> Jordan_U, let's say I put keep the new one. What would be the easiest way to go back to the default?
[00:11] <histo> TJ-: But you're all alleging the hard drive is causing denied access to the firmware. As is the bios upgrade provided by lenovo that fixes this bug. I'd like to understand how installing anything on the hard drive can deny him access to the firmware
[00:11] <olabaz> Jordan_U, let me rephrase that
[00:12] <olabaz> Jordan_U, If I kept my previous version. How can I go to the package manager's version
[00:14] <TJ-> histo: No, that's not what we're saying. The issue is that the firmware is stuck in Fast-Boot mode - going straight to the ESP - and won't enter Setup. One owner reports that removing the boot device caused the U410 to enter Setup mode.
[00:16] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I've just found a firmware/BIOS simulator that Lenevo provide for service engineers! http://service.lenovo.partner-management.com/content/CoursewarePublic/15415/U310_BIOS.swf
[00:17] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Nice.
[00:17] <TJ-> Jordan_U: That shows Intel Rapid Start as the most obvious potential cause.
[00:17] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I'll be headed to bed shortly, so if regedit returns please point to that link for him
  i got this error when I make an upgrade
[00:18] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Will do.
 it give me an error with "linux-headers-lowlatency_3.13.0.55
[00:19] <hplc> how can i get rkhunter to check files against the ones on ubuntuservers in order to compare the SHA256 hash value?, trying to see if its corrupt or just because of updates
 that is the message in spanish: "dpkg: error fatal irrecuperable, abortando, el fichero de lista de ficheros del paquete `zenity -contiene un nombre de fichero vacío"
[00:21] <ubuntu925> sat-buddhi: I would pastebin the update with the command and post the url, as you can see so far the info is not empty but missing some easy confirms with requested info.
[00:21] <Jordan_U> hplc: You can use debsums to check files against the sha of the shipped files.
[00:22] <hplc> Jordan_U, shipped? like a ISO or DVD?
[00:22] <ubuntu925> !pastebinit | sat-buddhi
[00:23] <Jordan_U> hplc: Checked against the contents of the signed .deb files.
[00:24] <hplc> Jordan_U, i dont understand :S  where is the clean source? if not cd or dvd?
 ok... i din't know it :)
[00:26] <ubuntu925> sat-buddhi: Cool, mainly I'm trying to get enough info here for the kernel support from the channel for yah.
[00:26] <Jordan_U> hplc: From "man debsums": Verify installed Debian package files against MD5 checksum lists from /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.md5sums. debsums can generate checksum lists from deb archives for packages that don't include one.
[00:26] <Jordan_U> hplc: So it looks like it's more for users trying to detect corruption rather than mallicious modification.
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/11727961/
[00:29] <hplc> Jordan_U, but i dont care why its gone sour, i just want to weed out whatever IS sour, and i already ran debsums, a lot, with:sudo apt-get install --reinstall $(sudo dpkg -S $(sudo debsums -c 2>&1 | cut -d " " -f 4 | sort -u) | cut -d : -f 1 | sort -u)
[00:30] <hplc> after that i got paranoid and tried rkhunter, and that gave me another answer, but nnow im becoming comfortble that rkhunter alerts ARE due to updates
[00:31] <ubuntu925> sat-buddhi: Not quite what I needed myself, but I'm not your end fix help. You will get it resolved I suspect at some point, not anything more I can add.
 ok... Thanks very much
[00:32] <hplc> hmm on the other hand, i COULD myself  SHA256  hash all those files in clean repo
[00:33] <hplc> perhaps not even thats what causing ubuntu to freeze and hang thou
[00:34] <Jordan_U> hplc: What are the exact symptoms of the problem you're having?
[00:35] <hplc> Jordan_U, my ubuntu 14?04.2 is so very very slow, and after an hour it becomes unresponive , then apps start to hang, the entire kernel
[00:36] <hplc> Jordan_U, an airconditioner is blowing cold air over it so it shouldnt be heat
[00:36] <hplc> Jordan_U, and i regurlary vacumm away dust from the cabnett
[00:37] <hplc> ...i hope that was |exact"
[00:38] <TJ-> hplc: that sounds like some process is leaking memory and so the system is running out of RAM and using swap
[00:38] <hplc> bah, this british \ US keyboard layout, i wish i knew howto change in lubuntu environment
[00:39] <hplc> TJ-, thanks :) now i have a point to start from atleast thanks
[00:40] <hplc> had to install lubuntu frontend , ubuntu dragged it halt even faster
[00:41] <hplc> when thinking of it...........there have been complaints lately that there is no swap anymore, got destroyed somehow
[00:42] <hplc> and RAM fills up with blablabla
[00:52] <taquilla> poramorachavez
[00:52] <taquilla> poramorachavez
[00:52] <taquilla> poramorachavez
[00:52] <taquilla> taquilla, uilla
[00:52] <taquilla> taquilla
[00:52] <taquilla> taquilla
[00:53] <Jordan_U> taquilla: Please stop.
[00:56] <Jordan_U> olabaz: I don't know. I would have expected the following command to re-prompt, but it doesn't appear to on my system: sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confask install --reinstall grub-pc
[00:56] <awojo> If I enable dhcp on MAAS will it interfere with my other dhcp server? I.E cause network conflictds
[00:56] <olabaz> Jordan_U, ok no worries I'll just wait for it to come up again lol
[00:57] <Jordan_U> olabaz: If you wouldn't mind trying that command, I'm curious if it will work for you. It's a slightly modified (based on my reading of "man dpkg") version of one of the solutions posted here: http://serverfault.com/questions/82801/linux-how-to-restore-config-file-using-apt-get-aptitude
[00:59] <olabaz> Jordan_U, it seems to not do anything
[00:59] <olabaz> stuff happened but no prompt
[01:09] <toothrot> hi, i'd like to create a very restricted user account. it would be a bit like a service account... it won't need shell access, or a home dir, etc. (it's going to be used from a web interface, which syncs with the os users)
[01:09] <toothrot> can anyone point me in the right direction on something like that
[01:13] <OerHeks> toothrot, logout, and use the guest account. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession
[01:13] <toothrot> what? it needs to be a named account with a password
[01:14] <toothrot> it'll be used by someone accessing a web interface (ajenti)
[01:16] <OerHeks> toothrot, then you need the users & groups tool, not installed standard, part of gnome-system-tools
[01:16] <jParkton> I dont know if this is a Kubuntu issue or not, I connected my laptop via VGA adapter to my hdtv and selected input "PC" and it displayed 'a' desktop that was like a side desktop to mine? And I couldnt play movies or anything on the side desktop
[01:16] <toothrot> this is for a server
[01:17] <jParkton>  does anyone know if there is a specific setting on my laptop I need to use?
[01:18] <Ben64> jParkton: you can change how it displays using the display settings thingy. or nvidia-settings if you have nvidia
[01:19] <olabaz> jParkton, are you trying to mirror your display or have an extended screen?
[01:20] <ki7mt> toothrot, I'd just create a normal user, then remove the groups you dont want it to have access too, or, create a group with minimal access and add the user to that group only.
[01:20] <toothrot> ki7mt, ok, i'll start there
[01:21] <OerHeks> to connect with a ajenti service, or to run ajenti on that server?
[01:21] <toothrot> OerHeks, not to run ajenti. ajenti syncs with the system accounts...
[01:21] <toothrot> so i want a user i can give permission to the web interface
[01:21] <toothrot> but can't log in to the actual server
[01:24] <kiki_lamb> Can someone direct me to an up-to-date-ish guide to making a Ubuntu server join a Windows (AD) domain?
[01:24] <kiki_lamb> Thanks
[01:24] <kiki_lamb>  Google's offering me old-ish looking ones
[01:24] <ki7mt> toothrot, That may be tricky, does your web-interface use server authentication?
[01:25] <OerHeks> You could run a vm on that server, connecting to the ajenti-service, and ssh/screen tunnel
[01:25] <toothrot> ki7mt, what do you mean by "use server authentication?" ?
[01:25] <toothrot> it uses the credentials from the system it is running on..
[01:26] <toothrot> (it's set up that way, anyhow)
[01:26] <OerHeks> "chapter: how do i work @home and nobody notice it"
[01:26] <ki7mt> toothrot, Normally, web apps have their own DB for Admin and Users, and do not authenticate through the server passwd mechanics.
[01:26] <hplc> Tj was right, i applied valgrind on browser midori and got report saying exactly where, how and how bad memory leaked
[01:27] <toothrot> ki7mt, yea, if it was setup that way, i wouldn't need to create a system account... ajenti is a server control panel.
[01:27] <ki7mt> toothrot, To allow that would be a big security concern.
[01:27] <toothrot> it can work that way, bt it's not configured like that
[01:27] <b4tm4n> what is the format of files in /etc/default/?
[01:28] <toothrot> ki7mt, ajenti is a web interface for admining the server...
[01:28] <ki7mt> toothrot, Fare enough :-) ... Hopefully, it's secure then.
[01:29] <toothrot> to be hoenst, i'm not a fan really either, but it wasn't my choice
[01:29] <toothrot> i'm trying to make sure what i'm doing won't be at fault at the very least :P
[01:29] <ki7mt> Yeah, I much prefer Keys Only server administration, but too each their own.
[01:31] <hinderaker> So on a scale from 1 to 10 how bad is it really to run irssi as root? :p
[01:32] <hinderaker> Got me thinking, I was a little eager and fired up irssi before I created a normal user and I got banned from the server for using root.
[01:32] <hinderaker> On a none-production, none-commercial box. Lets say its a VPS for irc only!
[01:33] <mach20x> I'm getting snow on my screen right now, it happened after I came back to my locked screen
[01:34] <hinderaker> Maybe its snowing?
[01:34] <ki7mt> hinderaker, Well, if you get hacked as root, it's certainly game over. At least with a non-privileged user it's contained somewhat.
[01:35] <hinderaker> ki7mt: Fair enough. But why does freenode care? :p
[01:35] <jParkton> olabaz: mirror my desktop
[01:35] <ki7mt> hinderaker, You'd have to ask them why.
[01:35] <ki7mt> I could guess, but, that's all it would be is a guess.
[01:35] <jParkton> Ben64: there was nothing I saw in my display settings
[01:36] <olabaz> jParkton, I think default is extending desktop.  If you do a search for Display on your desktop you should be able to configure it.
[01:36] <hinderaker> ^^
[01:36] <jParkton> ok i will have another go at it in a bit
[01:36] <OerHeks> we have a !root factoid
[01:37] <hinderaker>  :P
[01:37] <mach20x> how can I show a print screen
[01:37] <OerHeks> imgur picpaste
[01:38] <jParkton> press "print Screen" then paste it on imgur or install screencloud from the repos
[01:38] <jParkton> it is pretty awesome
[01:38] <OerHeks> live drive
[01:42] <jParkton> yes
[01:48] <dj3000> shutter is the best app for screenshitz
[01:48] <dj3000> screenshotz
[01:49] <gagalicious> is there a (read/write capable) compressed filesystem for linux for storing images/videos only?
[01:49] <Ben64> ext4?
[01:55] <petrvs> gagalicious: compressing media is incredibly intensive, it wouldn't be worth it
[02:04] <ekem> will running  `sudo apt-get remove xfce4 plymouth gdm lightdm` on a fresh ubuntu install scrap the entire os by removing dependencies?
[02:05] <ekem> seems a user ran this and the os removed itself and has no boot entry
[02:14] <jgq> hello
[02:15] <jgq> 你好
[02:15] <svetlana> Hi
[02:15] <jgq> where are you
[02:17] <mach20x> Userspace
[02:18] <mach20x> Running a Memtest on my RAM, since my Ubuntu environment crashed
[02:19] <mach20x> Screen froze
[02:19] <JohnDoe1972> hey
[02:19] <JohnDoe1972> guys can someone explain which version of kylin i shoul d download ?
[02:20] <JohnDoe1972> 14.04.2 or 15.04 ?
[02:21] <mach20x> First time it froze since I woke up was while using Hangouts in Firefox, last night it froze while using rhythmbox
[02:21] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: 14.04 is LT 5 years support vs 15.04 9 months
[02:22] <JohnDoe1972> why does a newer version get less support ?
[02:22] <root1> Deneme.
[02:22] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: Ubuntu has long and short term releases is all.
[02:23] <JohnDoe1972> ok so 14.04.2 it is then
[02:23] <JohnDoe1972> dows it include grub ?
[02:23] <mach20x> JohnDoe1972: I'm having lots of troubles with 15.04 myself, so I'd say 14.04.2 as well
[02:23] <JohnDoe1972> im noob with linux so thx for help guys
[02:24] <Tex_Nick> JohnDoe1972: yes it has grub
[02:24] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: Yeah, grub is the bootloader automatically on standard installs, you have a choice where you want it however.
[02:24] <mach20x> Should have grub 2.xx
[02:24] <JohnDoe1972> nice. im looking to create dual boot
[02:24] <JohnDoe1972> linux / 7
[02:24] <Keanne> can someone tell me how to disable mousepad in ubuntu 15.04?
[02:25] <JohnDoe1972> ok gnite guys
[02:25] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: choice of grub placement is in the manual install called "something else" in the install gui 6 or 7th screen
[02:25] <root1> Why would you want that?
[02:25] <Keanne> there is no option in system settings
[02:25] <apb1963> Trying to install k3b, but it says "Package k3b is not available, but is referred to by another package."  ubuntu 14.04 with kde
[02:25] <Tex_Nick> mach20x: I tried 15.04 for about a month, also had issues with that I didn't care to try and resolve, so just went back to 14.04
[02:26] <JohnDoe1972> ok thx for heads up ubuntu925
[02:26] <ubuntu925> no prob
[02:26] <root1> I'm new to Weechat, so here is a dumb question... How do I use my terminal without closing WeeChat guys?
[02:26] <JohnDoe1972> whats people experiance of running games under wine ?
[02:26] <Ben64> root1: first off you shouldn't be running stuff as root
[02:27] <root1> I noticed that. ;___;
[02:27] <root1> I didn't notice I was running it on root, I'm always on root.
[02:27] <Ben64> root1: don't always be on root
[02:27] <root1> What's wrong with it?
[02:28] <mach20x> Tex_Nick: sound, audio, and network negotiation (wired and wireless) were my problems. What was your method of downgrade?
[02:28] <JohnDoe1972> root is like c: leaving your whole system open to attack
[02:28] <root1> I know... that. I always leave the door open.
[02:28] <JohnDoe1972> if your root get poisioned your whole body will diew
[02:29] <root1> What if I'm on a virtual machine?
[02:29] <JohnDoe1972> i hear that protects you but !
[02:29] <Ben64> root1: it doesn't matter, its not the way to do things
[02:29] <Tex_Nick> mach20x: I just did a backup of home ... then a clean install of 14.04
[02:30] <ubuntu925> funner ways to live on the edge
[02:30] <JohnDoe1972> whats a typical partition size to assighn ubuntu 14.04?
[02:30] <root1> brb
[02:31] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: min is 6 gigs or so, do this with a seperate home in the end.
[02:31] <Tex_Nick> JohnDoe1972: for wine, have you looked at ... https://appdb.winehq.org/
[02:32] <JohnDoe1972> ubuntu925, seperate home in the end ? im not sure i folllow you ?
[02:32] <JohnDoe1972> Tex_Nick, thx 4 link
[02:32] <Tex_Nick> JohnDoe1972: np
[02:33] <limberian> Ben, are you there?
[02:33] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: With linux you have a choice to have your home in a seperate partiton, many do this as changing the release and even OS's is possible while keeping data and some configs.
[02:33] <Captonjamason> how can i change the packground picture in terminal, every fourm post i go to say there is a "Background" tab in profile settings but there isnt for me, how can i change it to a custom image?
[02:33] <mach20x> Tex_Nick: any ideas on generating a script to reinstall previously used applications, and/or settings?
[02:33] <Captonjamason> *background
[02:34] <limberian> Is ben67 here?
[02:34] <JohnDoe1972> ubuntu925, so 6 gig for the os and ? 4 gig for home ? home is like a bige back up for media configs etc ?
[02:35] <Captonjamason> ben 64 and 47 are here, no ben 67
[02:35] <Keanne> nevermind, i just installed touchpad indicator
[02:35] <limberian> JohnDoe1972: Hello, can I ask something?
[02:35] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: That is tiny how much space do you have?
[02:35] <JohnDoe1972> sure
[02:35] <limberian> I'm the root guy, before.
[02:35] <limberian> If you remember.
[02:35] <JohnDoe1972> umm like the hd is about 160 gb but its got 2 partitions already
[02:36] <JohnDoe1972> roughly 8- gb each
[02:36] <JohnDoe1972> 80
[02:36] <JohnDoe1972> so i want to shrink both and cut her into 3 pieces
[02:36] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: can you confirm the free space?
[02:36] <JohnDoe1972> 55 gb
[02:36] <Johnny_Linux> getRdooooone
[02:36] <Tex_Nick> mach20x: I just keep install notes on new installs & anytime I add an app, utility, ppa ... etc. for reference and trouble shooting and new installs
[02:37] <Captonjamason> how can i change the background picture in terminal, every fourm post i go to say there is a "Background" tab in profile settings but there isnt for me, how can i change it to a custom image?
[02:37] <apb1963> Trying to install k3b, but it says "Package k3b is not available, but is referred to by another package."  ubuntu 14.04 with kde... any ideas on fixing this error?
[02:38] <JohnDoe1972> ubuntu925, ?
[02:38] <JohnDoe1972> ive plenty basically
[02:38] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: I would be safe a start with 20 gigs, a separate home is some people s choice, personally I don't bother, just mentioned as although antiquated still popular
[02:38] <JohnDoe1972> but i wish to save as much as i can for the other partitions
[02:39] <ubuntu925> which means?
[02:39] <JohnDoe1972> do you get a loading screen with grub ?
[02:39] <JohnDoe1972> wwhich means ill go with 20 gb and no home dir
[02:40] <Tex_Nick> JohnDoe1972: typically if you only have one OS installed ... grub is bypassed on boot
[02:41] <JohnDoe1972> im wanting to have win 7 and  kylie
[02:41] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: Yes on grub and yeah on a straight 20 gig install. However you will now have 4 partitions, 2 you had and ubuntu and it's swap, this install could be contained in an extended partition,for more partitions.
[02:42] <ubuntu925> unless you are uefi of course
[02:42] <JohnDoe1972> uefi ?
[02:43] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: UEFI is the Windows install model, as of W8.
[02:43] <JohnDoe1972> im still 7
[02:43] <ubuntu925> !uefi | JohnDoe1972
[02:43] <JohnDoe1972> ok thn but not relevan tto me currently
[02:44] <JohnDoe1972> thx
[02:44] <JohnDoe1972> 3.30 am 0_0 .. i need to sleep
[02:44] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: Be sure to confirm you're not uefi, just having 7 does not mean you don't
[02:44] <JohnDoe1972> thax for all the advice n info guys
[02:44] <Tex_Nick> JohnDoe1972: also for dual boot ... keep in mind that installation is much easier if you install win first then linux ... that linux will setup grub automatically for dual boot ... so for dual boot installs ... win then lin
[02:44] <JohnDoe1972> 0_0 umm confirm im not uefi . how ?
[02:45] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: paste bin sudo fdisk -l
[02:46] <JohnDoe1972> if its not avail untill 8 then i HAVE to be the previos file system
[02:46] <JohnDoe1972> ok i ned to sleep
[02:46] <JohnDoe1972> later gus
[02:47] <ubuntu925> JohnDoe1972: Not a solid conclusion but it is your setup. )
[02:50] <Tex_Nick> ubuntu925: I no longer use MS OS's, ... if bios supports uefi disable, will latest MS OS's still install ? up to say win 10 ?
[02:50] <Tex_Nick> with uefi disabled that is ^^^
[02:50] <tomhardy> hey i'm in the ubuntu install proces and it's saying "Theis machines firmware has started the installer in UEFI mode but theres' an exisitng system using BIOS compatibility mode".. what should i do?
[02:52] <ubuntu925> Tex_Nick: I have W 10 on a msdos, not sure about what you describe have not had an uefi setup to mess with.
[02:53] <Tex_Nick> msdos ? hmmm well ok thanks for feedback
[02:56] <lost> quantum: what up
[02:57] <quantum> lost: better then facebook
[02:57] <lost> quantum: i dont think so but theres lots of people who know stuff about linux here
[02:57] <ubuntu925> Tex_Nick: I think a reinstall of windows as decribed is not a huge deal. Heh, it's the support, none on ##windows would be my guess.
[02:58] <lost> quantum: and this doesnt track everything you do
[02:58] <lost> can anyone help me with sshing
[02:59] <tomhardy> lost: yh what's the issue?
[02:59] <svetlana> what's the problem
[02:59] <Tex_Nick> ubuntu925: was just a matter of curosity for me ;-)
[03:00] <lost> tomhardy: im just learning about it  and am trying to ssh my machine its at my moms house and want to connect remotely
[03:01] <tomhardy> ok.. have you logged onto the router and forwarded the port from your router to your mums computer?
[03:02] <tomhardy> does your mums computer have openssh installed?  what operating system is it running?  windows / osx / linux?
[03:04] <tomhardy> hey guys. is the encryption that is used int he ubuntu setup "encrypt the new Ubuntu isntallation for security" full disk encryption?
[03:09] <AndChat|475904> tomhardy: Yes. You can either use LUKS encryption of your root filesystem, leaving /boot/ essentially the only thing unencrypted, or you can choose to have ecryptfs encrypt only the files in your home directory. I personally think that the latter option makes more sense.
[03:10] <tomhardy> yeah i agree
[03:11] <Tex_Nick> tomhardy: see this, it's for 13.10 but I think holds true up to 115.04 ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/429590/what-are-the-advantages-disadvantages-of-the-new-encryption-feature-in-ubuntu-13
[03:11] <lost> tomhardy: hey sorry i havent done this no and it doesnt havee openssh because i didnt know what to use thank you im terying to set up my own botnet
[03:12] <Tex_Nick> 15.04 jeeze i was thinking a ways ahwd there :(
[03:12] <xangua> 115.04, won't live for that
[03:13] <lost> does anyone know some where i could go to download a bunch of scripts that are pre made ?
[03:13] <Tex_Nick> xangua: lol ;-)
[03:13] <tomhardy> lost: your way out of your depth.. get some books, learn the basics
[03:14] <tomhardy> lost: anyone who makes anything clever most often has a very deep understanding of both programming and operating systems
[03:15] <tomhardy> and bare in mind.. if your doing anything illegal.. most people get caught and are given hefty jail sentances
[03:15] <adante> 115.05 sneaky skynet
[03:16] <Tex_Nick> lost: you might try something like realVNC for gui remote connectivity ... multi-platform & relatively easy to setup & use
[03:16] <tomhardy> wow that ubuntu installation was ridiclous
[03:16] <tomhardy> fastest installation out of any operating system i've ever used for 30 years
[03:17] <tomhardy> does dist-upgrade include upgrade?
[03:17] <Tone> Yes it does
[03:17] <tomhardy> swwet
[03:18] <neonixcoder> I am having a strange issue with my USB drive..
[03:18] <neonixcoder> What ever data I write in to it, I can not see it..
[03:18] <neonixcoder> I checked if they are hidden and nothing like that.
[03:19] <neonixcoder> but I can clearly see space has be reduced..
[03:19] <neonixcoder> any suggestions experts?
[03:19] <bodhi_zazen> what file system ?
[03:19] <tomhardy> neonixcoder: you've gone in terminal and done ls -al ?
[03:19] <Ben64> neonixcoder: need more information, what filesystem, what are you writing, where, etc
[03:20] <bodhi_zazen> does the usb work on other OS ?
[03:21] <neonixcoder> bodhi_zazen: Its a FAT file system and /etc/mtab content for this USB drive is "vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro 0 0"
[03:21] <Guest9397> I have encrypted files on my Lubuntu, which isn't booting properly. The Lubuntu is running as a Virtualbox which may have been corrupted to some extent. I am running a live CD in virtualbox
[03:21] <neonixcoder> tomhardy:Thats the first thing I did..
[03:22] <neonixcoder> Ben64: I am writing some of my photos to it.. I can still see earlier(some 3 months back written data) written photos but not the ones which I written y'day.. in some folder
[03:26] <neonixcoder> Any suggestion team?
[03:32] <Guest9397> i will install zulucrypt, maybe i will be able to find and mount those encrypted files
[03:42] <tomhardy> damn apple
[03:42] <tomhardy> have to swap my mouse scroll direction
[03:42] <tomhardy> lol
[03:45] <BuzzardBuzz> while you are at it might swap that apple for an orange
[03:46] <guest8574> What do you guys think of my cool looking desktop? http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-06-16-57XVoBwb.png
[03:46] <tomhardy> i can see why the swapped it (for touch) but having to jump from osx to ubuntu all day.. i have ot have them the same :)
[03:46] <guest8574> Any way to get rid of those annoying popups?
[03:47] <BuzzardBuzz> just use a good popup blocker
[03:50] <silva> hi, having some trouble with audible pings (i.e. ping -a google.com), checked to see if I could manually make the sound with "echo -e '\a'", but no dice. anyone know whats going on?
[03:52] <Guest9397> I have a .ecryptfs/<username>/.ecryptfs folder with files "auto-mount auto-umount Private.mnt Private.sig wrapped-passphrase". There are encrypted files somewhere. How can I mount them manually?
[03:52] <Guest9397> I installed zuluCrypt but I do not know what file to point it to
[03:53] <petrvs> Guest9397: ls /usr/bin/*ecrypt*
[03:55] <tomhardy> do you have to install sshd on desktop ubuntu?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> tomhardy, no
[03:55] <tomhardy> i mean.. does it come with it?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> tomhardy, not by default
[03:55] <Guest9397> Google has recommended ecryptfs-recover-private which is now searching for encrypted stuff
[03:55] <tomhardy> ahh i see
[03:56] <Guest9397> This would be easier if it weren't a live CD running in a virtualbox }:(
[03:56] <cfhowlett> Guest9397, so ... install to vbox??
[03:56] <petrvs> Guest9397: if I had to guess, recovery is more than you need, but whatever
[03:58] <robbix> can anybody recommend a popular and intuitive IDE for HTML/Javascript/PHP editing in Ubuntu?
[03:59] <regedit> Jordan_U: heya
[04:02] <regedit> Jordan_U / TJ-: sadly, removing all HDDs did not help the BIOS find itself...
[04:02] <lost> quantum: type this
[04:02] <lost> quantum: sudo apt-get install openssh-client
[04:02] <Guest9397> ok it is mounted and i can kinda sorta access the files?
[04:02] <Guest9397> I think I am going to say screw it, and copy the files to a new partition then reinstall
[04:03] <lost> quantum:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9P7LhrRXmk
[04:06] <ant4t> robbix - bluefish?
[04:06] <ant4t> sorry- didn't see the UDE after it :X
[04:06] <robbix> ant4t: Tried that one. Giving others a shot to compare. I don't mind it.
[04:11] <Guest9397> >click OK on giant operation and it freezes - you're not sure if it's just doing the giant operation, or nothing
[04:14] <ant4t> robbix: so far the only thing i've had any luck with- coming from a long history with windows
[04:16] <ant4t> really wish i knew why xchat doesn't autocomplete in ubuntu.. i feel incredibly stupid
[04:16] <ant4t> @robbix: nothing seems to work correctly!
[04:16] <cfhowlett> ant4t, xchat is abandonware.  try hexchat
[04:16] <ant4t> hexchat you say?
[04:16] <ant4t> ill check it out
[04:16] <cfhowlett> FTW
[04:17] <ant4t> i just recently reinstalled ubuntu, and adapting is going pretty okay- still used to windows WAY too much
[04:18] <ubuntu491> ant4t: Just keep drinking the koolaid
[04:18] <ant4t> haha
[04:19] <ant4t> i'm trying not to, i think? unless you really mean that ;)
[04:19] <havingabadday> Hi, hopefully everyones in a helpful mood and having a better day than i.
[04:19] <ant4t> uh oh
[04:19] <havingabadday> lol..
[04:19] <ant4t> i highly doubt that
[04:20] <ant4t> i completely crashed a network today- not on purpose.
[04:20] <havingabadday> i'll try anyway. if not.. back to alcoholism.
[04:20] <ant4t> and have no idea how to fix it- the office is using these super old VPN routers that i have NO experience with
[04:20] <ant4t> i'm hoping they choose to go with new appliances, but we shall see
[04:21] <ant4t> anyway, your problem?
[04:24] <havingabadday> X99, 2 ssd's, sda=win 8.1 sdb=15.04 ubuntu. Not used ubuntu's installer, expected a popup for grub but that never happened? ... grub is installed on sdb but has poked my windows drive in someway that is causing it to bluescreen on bootup (5seconds of animation than bam, it goes down hard) no matter how i boot into the windows drive it fails so hard andfast i can't even see the error message. windows auto repairs are garbage, ... 4
[04:24] <havingabadday> hour of googling is prooving that my google-foo is weak.
[04:25] <havingabadday> too add to the mess my bios decided to have a sh1tfit and crap out on the USB drivers so i ended up flashing to the latest.. seems to have fixed that problem.
[04:27] <ant4t> ant4t: weeee
[04:27] <ant4t> much better. im guessing ;)
[04:28] <havingabadday> new bios? kinda. it's uefi and it responds to inputs like you are daisy chained through 10 vnc windows
[04:29] <Guest9397> Gparted complains "Invalid partition table on /dev/sda -- wrong signature 0" and won't let me resize
[04:31] <Guest9397> i accidentally mounted to /tmp, crap
[04:32] <havingabadday> moaning about windows and returning to alcohol it is then
[04:32] <havingabadday> thanks anyway guys.
[04:39] <SubCool> is anyone famliar with a VNC client that supports SSL? i had one that was amazing- it was Vimo or someting..
[04:52] <B0g4r7> havingabadday, I find that holding the [left] shift key at boot time brings up the grub menu.
[04:53] <lost> quantum:http://kpvz7kpmcmne52qf.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[04:56] <mark__> having problems installing ubuntu 15 on vaio z with 160 gb ssd raid 0 with windows 7 pro. when installed ubuntu it said i have multiple os, i choose the first option to install with windows keeping my files. i made a partition in windows before hand by shrinking my drive by 21 gb unallocated space. ubuntu has installed on that drive. but boot loader was fatal error. and i think it creaated 6 partitions now and the 6th one says out of parameters of hd
[04:57] <explodes> Hey! Did an upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 and now my main speakers do not work (headphones work fine)
[04:57] <explodes> My soundcard is detected, so that's a plus
[04:58] <xangua> explodes: how did you upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04? you can not upgrade directly from 14.04 to 15.04
[04:58] <explodes> pulseaudio doesn't seem to know my soundcard exists
[04:58] <explodes> hmm maybe it was 14.10? I rand "do-release-upgrade"
[04:59] <explodes> I'm pretty sure it was 14.04
[05:02] <SubCool> could someone help clarify the use of SSVNC.
[05:03] <explodes> I've been googling for a couple of hours, was hoping someone here knew anything better
[05:05] <SubCool> its suppsoed to be setting up stunnel, (got me if it is). But its running an x11vnc command, with attributes im not sure would work in my siutation. 'x11vnc -localhost' - since im connecting. im pretty sure that is NOT something i want to use.. right? '
[05:06] <SubCool> wish i could help, but ive never had good use of ubuntu and sound cards..
[05:07] <explodes> rebooting..
[05:07] <lost> how do yo make a 1v1 chat on this irc?
[05:08] <svetlana> lost: '/query nick'
[05:09] <lost> svetlana: hi what i mean whas can i have a one on one chat but not be in this chat room?
[05:09] <svetlana> yes, using the /query command
[05:09] <lost> svetlana: query command?
[05:09] <svetlana> yes
[05:10] <svetlana> i.e. /query svetlana
[05:11] <lost> can you explain?
[05:14] <limberian> Good morning peepl. It's 8am here.
[05:14] <liquidee> 7 here
[05:14] <liquidee> :)
[05:14] <limberian> Where are you from?
[05:14] <liquidee> poland
[05:14] <limberian> Should be awesome.
[05:15] <squinty> lost: if using xchat or hexchat, right click on person's nick and then select "open dialog window".  first ask if it is ok to pm the person who you want a private session with
[05:15] <limberian> Can I ask something
[05:16] <somsip> limberian: as long as it is on topic
[05:16] <limberian> I'm sure it is, how can I use my terminal without using weechat?
[05:16] <somsip> limberian: open another instance of terminal
[05:17] <limberian> I can't, weechat keeps opening instead.
[05:17] <somsip> limberian: are you using unity?
[05:18] <gunndawg> limberian: check your bashrc and make sure weechat isnt in there
[05:18] <SubCool> there edoesnt seem to be a lot of poeple on tonight.
[05:18] <limberian> I will, thanks :3
[05:19] <gunndawg> limberian: also look in bash_profile
[05:19] <SubCool> anyone famliar with Certs?
[05:20] <Tex_Nick> out of curosity why would weechat open instead of terminal ? ... is that a common thing ?
[05:20] <liquidee> yes, thats strange to me :o
[05:21] <limberian> Actually I'm on debian right now. And when I open weechat on terminal, terminal becomes weechat.
[05:21] <gunndawg> Tex_Nick: if its in your bash config then it will load whatever is in there
[05:21] <gunndawg> if you have 'weechat' in your bashrc its giong to launch weechat when terminal starts
[05:22] <liquidee> i know, buy why you have it there in the first place
[05:22] <liquidee> how would this happen
[05:22] <gunndawg> liquidee: Its not my computer. I have no clue why that would happen. Doesnt happen to me
[05:23] <BuzzardBuzz> lost: cam i pm you?
[05:23] <BuzzardBuzz> can*
[05:24] <Tex_Nick> gunndawg: thanks for feedback ... does weechat add it's self to bashrc with standard install ?
[05:28] <BuzzardBuzz> subcool: it has been really quiet
[05:29] <Tex_Nick> offtopic has also been kinda quiet for 10 hrs or so
[05:29] <BuzzardBuzz> subcool: do you want to make some self signed certs for your server?
[05:31] <BuzzardBuzz> subcool: you need certs for running your ssl webserver
[05:44] <DocMAX> hi
[05:44] <DocMAX> is there a tool which checks if program is running and restart if its hanging or not running?
[05:52] <agent_white> Evenin'
[05:54] <BuzzardBuzz> hello its 12:30 am here near Chicago
[05:57] <squinty> DocMax: for gui check out System Monitor...
[06:00] <neewbee> System monitor is good, but it is CPU intensive when open.
[06:01] <SubCool_> BuzzardBuzz, well, thats the thing. i know i have made one for my owncloud. but - im just worried about these certs. im not sure what they really are doing.
[06:06]  * squinty is reminded yet once again why he rarely joins in this channel these days
[06:12] <DocMAX> i have ubuntu server
[06:12] <DocMAX> i need non-GUI
[06:13] <squinty> then use your intellect and google for a viable solution such as kill, pkill etc etc etc
[06:13] <ubuntu491> DocMAX: Install htop and try it, this all can be done from the command line as well
[06:16] <neewbee> what is the difference b/w htop & top
[06:17] <OerHeks> htop got more tools, and more visual performance-meters
[06:17] <squinty> are  you really that limited on resources you can't install and experiment for yourself?
[06:19] <DocMAX> htop cant monitor and restart a program
[06:19] <DocMAX> it can monitor
[06:19] <DocMAX> but cant restart
[06:21] <Ben64> what is the program
[06:21] <Bray90820_> Can I restart ubuntu through SSH?
[06:21] <polyhydra> yes
[06:21] <Bray90820_> How
[06:21] <Ben64> sudo reboot
[06:21] <kunji> Bray90820: It's better if you don't know :P
[06:21] <Bray90820_> Thanks
[06:22] <SubCool_> Bray90820_, use sudo reboot -f
[06:22] <Bray90820_> Thanks
[06:22] <OerHeks> Bray90820_, only if that ssh account has root priv.
[06:22] <kunji> Bray90820: Be VERY CAREFUL that it will come back up as expected and you will be able to ssh in again.
[06:22] <OerHeks> but you will find out
[06:22] <Bray90820_> It does
[06:25] <Bray90820_> it hung
[06:25] <Bray90820_> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1e54239be89bc499bbe4
[06:25] <cyris212> whenever I use i3wm on my laptop it goes to sleep after 1-2 minutes (tested with ubuntu and debian)
[06:25] <cyris212> any idea what that could be?
[06:31] <boodllebat> i have a server and suddenly a random domain is pointing to my server how should i prevent that domain to pint my server thanks
[06:32] <agent_white> cyris212: That's likely not an i3wm issue, but of the OS. You may want to look into managing ACPI events with systemd, or startup scripts to change this "1-2 minute" time.
[06:33] <cyris212> agent_white: the funny thing is that xfce works without any problems
[06:33] <Ben64> boodllebat: you can't
[06:33] <boodllebat> somebody is hacking my server from honk kong
[06:33] <Ben64> unlikely
[06:34] <Tone_Float> i recovered a lot of my files but a lot are also corrupted it seems
[06:34] <Tone_Float> :(
[06:34] <agent_white> cyris212: KDE/GNOME/Xfce generally have programs that work with power-management to delay it or avoid it.
[06:34] <Tone_Float> i'm fscking stuff to make it work better maybe
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Tone_Float: did you try photorec?
[06:35] <agent_white> cyris212: Do some research into power-management and init scripts in ubuntu.
[06:35] <Tone_Float> i did not try any undeleting things but i might
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Tone_Float start photorec after installing
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> Tone_Float: it can recover data from far away ages
[06:36] <Tone_Float> yum
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> im testing gmail notifier indicator, and says login failed anyone had this issue before?
[06:48] <Tone_Float> lotuspsychje: I am not entirely clear on how I would use photorec on a "private" encrypted partition
[06:48] <Tone_Float> nor fsck for that matter. It doesn't show as a "Disk" option when I open program
[06:49] <Ben64> you'd have to decrypt it first
[06:49] <Tone_Float> it is decrypted and mounted, I can open some of the files but others are problematic
[06:49] <Ben64> so use the decrypted device to make a copy, then photorec on that
[06:50] <Tone_Float> er... like a straight cp?
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> i found the problem on gmail notify, its gmail itself that blocks it and sends a mail to inbox to report the blocked login...someone knows a workaround for this?
[06:54] <histo> lotuspsychje: under gmail settings you have to enable a login thing. trying to remember their name for it
[06:55] <auzty> why i always get "Cannot start TLS: handshake failure" when sending mail using sendmail?
[06:55] <auzty> is TLS related dependencies that i must install first?
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> histo: yeah ive tryed, but it says wrong login
[06:56] <histo> Tone_Float: I don't believe you'll have much  luck carving a mounted partition  that was using evcryption
[06:56] <auzty> (this happened with one server, and the other server with same configuration didn't get that error)
[06:59] <histo> lotuspsychje: are you using imap?
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> histo: no the gmail notify indicator
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !info gm-notify | histo
[07:00] <histo> lotuspsychje: notification indicator in what? what is it using for server settings
[07:00] <Tone_Float> i quit on getting more files back
[07:00] <Tone_Float> I'm just going to use what i have and reinstall ubuntu
[07:00] <Tone_Float> thank you for the help
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> histo: not sure what service its using, but it says login failed and i type the right l:p for sure
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> histo: after that i get a mail from gmail that it blocked a login
[07:02] <histo> lotuspsychje: under gmail settings you have to allow whatever service it's trying like pop3  or imap
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> histo: ah i found it mate, the link from gmail asks to block or enable apps
[07:04] <histo> lotuspsychje: there ya go
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> histo: so i unblocked apps, and bingo tnx!
[07:10] <histo> Tone_Float: sorry I'm tired. if you mount the partition or an image if it, the under lying file system should stoll present itself like a block device and you could recover files like normal.
[07:19] <Tone_Float> And I have done that before, histo, but that was when it was a encrypted full partition. Now it's just files in ~/.ecryptfs and idk it'll get the same options
[07:19] <Tone_Float> I'm not too worried about it
[07:25] <Dark-Bot> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS with the intention of dual boot with Windows 7, however it boots directly into Ubuntu with no menu, how can I fix this?
[07:25] <EriC^^> Dark-Bot: you can create an entry for windows in grub
[07:25] <Dark-Bot> The partition and installation were done correctly
[07:26] <EriC^^> try sudo update-grub
[07:26] <Dark-Bot> Ok sweet thank you
[07:27] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work, you can create the entry manually
[07:27] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:27] <Dark-Bot> It looks like it found a few things .. linux image, initrd image, linux image, initrd image, memtest86+, memtest86+, windows 7
[07:28] <EriC^^> ok, great
[07:28] <Dark-Bot> thank you eric
[07:28] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:32] <boodllebat> i wanna grep for two pattern like grep "phrase1" && "phrase2" myfile
[07:32] <EriC^^> boodllebat: grep "phrase1\|phrase2" /myfile
[07:33] <EriC^^> that's an or though
[07:33] <histo> EriC^^: -e ?
[07:34] <EriC^^> histo: it works without -e
[07:34] <boodllebat> EriC^^: i want it like that only show which have both phrase1 and phrase2
[07:34] <histo> EriC^^: he wants multiple patterns right?
[07:34] <EriC^^> boodllebat: then grep "phrase1.*phrase" /myfile
[07:34] <EriC^^> but that means phrase1 comes before phrase2 in the sentence
[07:35] <EriC^^> histo: he wants if both are in the file
[07:35] <histo> boodllebat: grep -e pattenr1 -e pattern2
[07:36] <EriC^^> histo: not sure that's it, he wants if both are there
[07:36] <EriC^^> does that work?
[07:36] <boodllebat> EriC^^: yeah worked
[07:36] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[07:44] <TrojanXV> [ChanServ]
[07:50] <nvk> hey, just a quick question
[07:50] <polyhydra_> shoot
[07:50] <nvk> I have downloaded a .deb file that has its data compressed with xz, how do I change the compression?
[07:53] <OerHeks> nvk, see man xz # -0 ... -9              Select a compression preset level.  The default is -6.
[07:54] <histo> nvk: why?
[07:55] <nvk> histo: actually I'm trying to install a deb file in an old distro, and i'm getting this error " contains ununderstood data member data.tar.xz/    , giving up"
[07:55] <nvk> I read that changing the compression might do the trick, but haven't found how
[07:56] <OerHeks> nvk, you better check the md5sum, if provided
[07:56] <OerHeks> and a corrupt xz container, what would you change to fix ?
[07:57] <nvk> OerHeks: is it that the package is corrupted?
[07:58] <OerHeks> It is not saying all oke, is it?
[07:59] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[08:06] <Dark-Bot> hey eric are you still here?
[08:07] <Dark-Bot> just wondering if there any way to set windows as the default in grub?
[08:08] <alumnat> hi
[08:09] <lasers> Dark-Bot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[08:09] <histo> Dark-Bot: edit /etc/default/grub and then sudo update-grub
[08:10] <alumnat> hello
[08:11] <Dark-Bot> thanks
[08:22] <the-erm> hello
[08:23] <EriC^^> hello
[08:23] <grunhart> yo
[08:24] <the-erm> Does anyone know how to get gstreamer to play flv files that are h264?  I've installed every good, bad & ugly plugin I can find yet to no avail.
[08:24] <the-erm> Yet it still keeps reporting missing plugin.
[08:25] <grunhart> I just use VLC for everything, never had problem with it...
[08:25] <the-erm> Well the problem is I've been developing a media player for years now.
[08:25] <the-erm> Which is based on gstreamer.
[08:26] <the-erm> It's weird because mplayer works fine.  Yet there are no gstreamer1.0-ffmpeg plugins.
[08:28] <histo> the-erm: do you ahve ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[08:28] <the-erm> Let me check
[08:29] <the-erm> http://pastebin.ca/3029925
[08:29] <the-erm> I have restricted, but not restricted-extras listed.
[08:30] <the-erm> I see what you're saying sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:30] <the-erm> Apparently I was missing something in that package.
[08:30] <the-erm> Thanks.
[08:30] <the-erm> Let's see if that works.
[08:31] <the-erm> on_sync_message: missing-plugin
[08:31] <the-erm> MISSING PLUGGIN
[08:31] <the-erm> Nope alas that doesn't work either.
[08:31] <the-erm> hmm.
[08:32] <histo> the-erm: should be in the good plugins
[08:32] <histo> weird
[08:32] <the-erm> Ya.
[08:33] <the-erm> In the past I've installed every gstreamer pluginn and it just sorta worked.
[08:35] <histo> the-erm: double check that gstreamer0.10-plugins-good is installed
[08:35] <the-erm> sure
[08:35] <the-erm> Yup it's installed
[08:36] <the-erm> Do you want me to paste it :)
[08:36] <the-erm> http://pastebin.ca/3029928
[08:37] <the-erm> Perhaps I'm using the wrong playbin ... I don't know.  It's odd.
[08:37] <the-erm> I'll check in #gstreamer and see if there is any advice there.
[08:39] <Beetlejuice> sup
[08:39] <Beetlejuice> i'm using xubuntu
[08:40] <histo> Beetlejuice: good
[08:40] <Beetlejuice> hexchat
[08:40] <Beetlejuice> ufw
[08:40] <farooq> good
[08:40] <Beetlejuice> can i /sysinfo
[08:40] <Beetlejuice> ?
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> Beetlejuice: this channel is to be used for ubuntu support only
[08:40] <Beetlejuice> ah ok
[08:40] <Beetlejuice> i used a 4.0 kernel
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Beetlejuice
[08:40] <Beetlejuice> aha
[08:40] <Beetlejuice> np
[08:45]  * ObrienDave waves from never-never land ;P
[08:52] <blzz> Hello, I just ran `cat /proc/mdstat` and discovered that a disk in my RAID5 array went down.  How can I determine which disk is involved?
[08:57] <histo> blzz: does mdstat have any info about the disk?
[08:57] <blzz> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11729503/  Not anything specific
[08:58] <blzz> histo, uh wait, I'm an idiot
[08:58] <jordan_> anybody have experience compiling 4.0.5 for ubuntu 15.04?
[08:58] <ObrienDave> 4.0.5 what?
[08:58] <jordan_> kernel
[08:58] <jordan_> linux kernel 4.0.5
[08:59] <ObrienDave> !details
[08:59] <ObrienDave> it would be nice if you said so to begin with ;P
[08:59] <jordan_> Sorry my mistake
[09:00] <blzz> Okay, so there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the disk that went down.  Is it safe just to add it back to the RAID array?
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | jordan_
[09:06] <Alcapote> Hi :) I have a small question, when you want to make a script, which language do you prefere to use ? Bash, python, perl or other  ?
[09:06] <liquidee_> Alcapote: depends on what you want to do
[09:08] <liquidee_> Alcapote: "make a script" is too general. Depends on what do you want to achieve
[09:11] <mistralol> I have some problem with virtualbox in vivid. It appears that it will run windows vms fine. However if i start a ubuntu virtual machine (also vivid) it locks up the host. Unfortunatly I cannot get it to produce and opps either anyone any suggestions?
[09:14] <bhuey> What's the current method of getting autologin for a getty on ttyS0 ?
[09:14] <bhuey> I've seen --autologin username for the options but it doesn't seem to work
[09:14] <bhuey> It use to work in 14.10
[09:19] <dreamer> hi all, trying to upgrade 2 (identical) machines with new fglrx. one went fine while the other gives: http://pastebin.com/uBh2Mv87
[09:20] <dreamer> btw on 14.04
[09:22] <akash> hi
[09:22] <farooq> hi
[09:22] <farooq> I am using ubuntu 14.04
[09:24] <farooq> i face a problem whenever ethernet wire is unpluged system not connected to the internet after reconnecting. The only solution works is system restart. Can anyone has any idea?
[09:24] <farooq> Please help
[09:26] <blz> Hello, I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the options out there for backing up my (headless) server OS and I could really use some advice/recommendations.  My requirements are as follows:  (1) I must be able to restore the entire system state (2) backup must run without any server downtime (3) delta backups strongly preferred (4) archive compression and encryption is strongly preferred
[09:28] <histo> !backup This page has a few options | blz
[09:28] <t0by> blz, I don't know but that's kind of what most backup technologies provide, in general. Even tape can be used for incremental backups, consider http://surf.ml.seikei.ac.jp/~nakano/dump-restore/dump-restore-mini-HOWTO.en.html#ss1.1
[09:28] <histo> !backup | blz This page has a few options
[09:29] <blz> histo, hmm I like the first page.  Thanks
[09:29] <histo> farooq: how are you configuring your network?
[09:29] <histo> blz: I believe there is a table on that page that breaks them all down
[09:30] <t0by> blz, for non-gigantic data sets I am partial to tape or other removable media. The medium itself is inexpensive and you can have multiple backups on multiple different medias in different places, if you rely on RAID o ah hard disk with a z-backup you have a single point of failure.
[09:30] <farooq> using dhcp
[09:30] <histo> farooq: using the network manager or are you editing the /etc/network/interfaces by hand?
[09:30] <blz> t0by, the issue here has more to do with software than media.  This is a home server so it's not, strictly-speaking, critical infrastructure
[09:30] <blz> t0by, it's just that I have a working setup and it would be a pain to redo :)
[09:31] <blz> So I'd rather not go out and buy a tape deck
[09:31] <t0by> blz,well, those are very cheap on the Evil Bay these days. Just saying :)
[09:31] <wasp__> blz, there are loads of options, Cloudberry & Bacula are 2 options we use at work. Both are pretty decent, I use Tarsnap for my private servers.
[09:31] <blz> Really I just have one 16 GB SSD that hosts the OS files and I'd ideally like to take a snapshot at a given point in time without having to dismount anything
[09:32] <blz> wasp__, I like the sound of tarsnap
[09:32] <wasp__> It's both decent & cheap
[09:33] <blz> oh but this is cloud storage :/  I was just hoping to store everything on a server at work
[09:33] <wasp__> Bacula then :)
[09:34] <blz> alright, I'll give it a whirl :)
[09:34] <wasp__> We use it to back up file servers, databases, web servers etc all seems to take it in it's stride
[09:34] <stemid> it takes a little work but I made my own backup system using rsnapshot and attic. it gives me a better dedup ratio than symantec netbackup.
[09:35] <farooq> I got this error after two to three minutes"could not connect dbus"
[09:39] <k1l_> farooq: what ubuntu exactly? what desktop? what errormessage (pastebin)? from what program?
[09:40] <farooq> I have not configured using gui on from file that is /etc/network/interfaces
[09:42] <okand|2> hi
[09:44] <k1l_> farooq: i still dont know what setup you use and what the real issue is
[09:44] <farooq> @ kll_ I am using ubuntu 14.04 with gnome desktop
[09:45] <k1l_> farooq: and you are using the networkmanager?
[09:45] <farooq> Issue is whenever ethernet unpluged it is not connected after plub in. Internet is working after restart
[09:46] <farooq> yes
[09:46] <k1l_> farooq: yes, because if you dont use the networkmanager you need to do that manually. use ifup and ifdown.
[09:46] <k1l_> you choose to not use the service, so you need to do it manually
[09:47] <farooq> I got some error after some time regarding dbus
[09:47] <crazyhorse18> how do you restart networking in ubutnu 15.04 ?
[09:47] <k1l_> farooq: if you set the settings in the /etc/network/interfaces the networkmanager will not make the networks
[09:48] <jokoon> anybody knows how to recover a win7 that won't boot anymore ? all I have is a win8.1 and a ubuntu 11 live cd
[09:48] <jokoon> and no linux installed
[09:48] <k1l_> crazyhorse18: since its systemd now use sysctl
[09:48] <farooq> i used ifup and if down also and /etc/init.d/networking restart but network not up
[09:48] <hateball> !windows | jokoon
[09:48] <cfhowlett> jokoon, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr , ask ##windows?
[09:49] <crazyhorse18> sudo systemctl restart ?
[09:49] <farooq> sudo systemctl restart ? IS THIS FOR ME?
[09:49] <k1l_> farooq: no!
[09:50] <k1l_> crazyhorse18: sudo systemctl restart network
[09:50] <jokoon> nobody answes on the windows channel -- for 1hr now
[09:50] <k1l_> jokoon: we cant tell you how to repair a windows. see if there is other windows support.
[09:50] <cfhowlett> jokoon, not an ubuntu issue, and we don't support windows.  shocking, I know, but true
[09:51] <crazyhorse18> k1l_ didn't seem to work
[09:51] <farooq> this is the configuration of /etc/network/interfaces file "# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)auto loiface lo inet loopback"
[09:51] <k1l_> crazyhorse18: details matter
[09:51] <crazyhorse18> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/929fdc4154c5d1f44c5e << i added this to my /etc/network/interfaces
[09:52] <no_gravity> Hello! Does anybody know how to wait for a keypress inside a read loop? pseudocode: while read -r line { ... do stuff... WAIT FOR KEYPRESS ... } < file.txt
[09:52] <k1l_> !paste | farooq
[09:52] <crazyhorse18> sudo systemctl restart networking    and then ifconfigh eth0 | grep inet addr   and it's still on dhcp 1.1.104
[09:52] <asadmoosvi> hi
[09:52] <asadmoosvi> I have recently installed ubuntu 14.04.02 on my dell 7348 notebook which also has a touchscreen
[09:53] <asadmoosvi> the cursor shows up when i boot up the system
[09:53] <asadmoosvi> but then it disappears and the touchpad does not seem to work
[09:53] <asadmoosvi> when i close the lid
[09:53] <asadmoosvi> and open it back
[09:53] <asadmoosvi> the touchpad works fine
[09:53] <asadmoosvi> how can i fix this?
[09:53] <asadmoosvi> please help
[09:54] <asadmoosvi> please anyone?
[09:54] <cfhowlett> !patience | asadmoosvi
[09:54] <EriC^^> asadmoosvi: what is shown in dmesg after you open the lid? maybe that can tell
[09:55] <crazyhorse18> hmm ok i also tried sudo ifup eth0 and i get  "ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces""
[09:55] <asadmoosvi> in dmesg? how do I check that
[09:55] <EriC^^> asadmoosvi: open a terminal and type dmesg
[09:56] <k1l_> crazyhorse18: what are the file permissions of interfaces?
[09:56] <asadmoosvi> umm unfortunately i had gotten fed up of this problem and i installed linux mint, where the touchpad works perfectly, but I want to go back to ubuntu...
[09:56] <crazyhorse18> -rw-r--r--
[09:56] <farooq> kill please review this URL:http://paste.ubuntu.com/11729703/
[09:56] <crazyhorse18> k1l_, -rw-r--r--
[09:56] <crazyhorse18> k1l_, -rw-r--r-- root:root
[09:57] <cfhowlett> asadmoosvi, for mint support ask mint.  after you install ubuntu, come back for support
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !mint | asadmoosvi
[09:57] <k1l_> crazyhorse18: that looks right.
[09:57] <asadmoosvi> so I should come back here once I get ubuntu installed again?
[09:58] <cfhowlett> asadmoosvi, correctomundo
[09:58] <asadmoosvi> alright. :)
[09:58] <k1l_> farooq: so you are using the networkmanager and dont use the /etc/network/interfaces
[09:59] <crazyhorse18> k1l: you mean me?
[09:59] <k1l_> crazyhorse18: no
[09:59] <farooq> you know well
[10:01] <NoOova> Could i send to a socket via /proc/PID/fd/SOCKET_FD_ID?
[10:03] <farooq> @kill_ why your text is showing red in my channel?
[10:04] <farooq> could not connect to dbus session bus
[10:04] <farooq> this message is pop up after some time
[10:05] <Johnny_Linux> farooq , give it some time
[10:05] <k1l_> crazyhorse18: hmm, dont know then what you changed else
[10:06] <k1l_> farooq: its called "hightlight". its when your line starts with the correct nick of the other person.
[10:06] <sheldonh> when defining an upstart service, and saying "start on starting x", is x the name of the file in /etc/init (sans .conf)?
[10:06] <farooq> thank you kill
[10:06] <jokoon> of course you wont help me for my windows problem, its a competitor :)
[10:06] <farooq> Johnny_Linux I given 5 to 10 minutes
[10:07] <cfhowlett> jokoon, yeah, THAT'S why ..
[10:07] <Johnny_Linux> farooq , some times it takes time for research, you should know that, be polite.
[10:08] <jokoon> linux and windows are like apples and oranges though
[10:08] <jokoon> you cant compare them
[10:08] <mcphail> jokoon: please stop the offtopic chat here
[10:08] <farooq> Johnny_Linux sorry i was understand that you say to give time to system to connect to the internet
[10:08] <Johnny_Linux> jokoon , did you read the entry guidelines when entering ?
[10:08] <cfhowlett> jokoon windows is off-topic here.  install ubuntu and we can help.  otherwise best of luck
[10:09] <k1l_> farooq: the question is what did you change on your system. originally ubuntu works fine with reconnecting on the ethernet cable
[10:09] <jokoon> ok Ill stop trolling this corporate channel
[10:22] <asadmoosvi> hi i'm back and have installed ubuntu 14.04.02
[10:22] <asadmoosvi> the touchscreen is working but the touchpad is not
[10:23] <EriC^^> ok, try closing the lid then open it and type dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 in the terminal
[10:23] <asadmoosvi> okay
[10:24] <ircnode0> somebody know how to install deal.ii package in Ubuntu 14.04? According to this ( https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deal.ii ) page there is deal.ii package
[10:25] <asadmoosvi_> the cursor has shown up but it is not moving with the touchpad
[10:25] <asadmoosvi_> what do i type in the teminal?
[10:26] <EriC^^> type dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:26] <ircnode0> tried "sudo apt-cache search deal.ii" ==> nothing also apt-cache search libdeal ==> nohting
[10:26] <k1l_> ircnode0: which ubuntu are you on?
[10:26] <EriC^^> also cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:26] <ircnode0> k1l_: Ubuntu 14.04
[10:26] <k1l_> ircnode0: there is no package from 12.10 to 15.04
[10:27] <asadmoosvi_> http://termbin.com/8z00 <---- this is the output
[10:27] <k1l_> ircnode0: seems like the project or the maintainer was dead in that timeframe. last package is 12.04 and now since 15.04
[10:28] <asadmoosvi_> http://termbin.com/faj5
[10:29] <asadmoosvi_> I can see the cursor on the screen but I just cant move it using the touchpad
[10:29] <asadmoosvi_> its just in the center of the screen
[10:29] <EriC^> ok did you close the lid and open it like before?
[10:29] <asadmoosvi_> yes
[10:29] <EriC^> ok, did you type the dmesg command?
[10:30] <asadmoosvi_> yeah i got those two links ive sent
[10:30] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: which laptop do you have?
[10:30] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: sorry i got dc
[10:30] <EriC^> can you paste them again?
[10:30] <ircnode0> k1l_: Can I just download package from 15.04 and "dpkg -i" ?
[10:30] <asadmoosvi_> sure
[10:30] <asadmoosvi_> http://termbin.com/8z00
[10:30] <cfhowlett> ircnode0, not built for 14.04 so don't expect it to work
[10:30] <asadmoosvi_> http://termbin.com/faj5
[10:31] <k1l_> ircnode0: might not install, or break other things in worst case
[10:33] <ircnode0> Understood. I will try to compile it from the source.
[10:34] <asadmoosvi_> Eric?
[10:34] <asadmoosvi_> Did you get the links?
[10:34] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: yes, xorg picks up the touchpad
[10:34] <EriC^> which laptop are you using?
[10:34] <Guest43512> how can I set up anonymous email A/c
[10:34] <asadmoosvi_> I'm using a Dell Inspiron 7348
[10:35] <Guest43512> .
[10:36] <asadmoosvi_> http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-13-7348-laptop/pd <--------------- This is the laptop I'm using
[10:36] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: ok, try sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[10:37] <asadmoosvi_> Okay, then?
[10:38] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: add blacklist i2c_hid
[10:38] <EriC^> blacklist i2c_hid
[10:39] <asadmoosvi_> Does it matter where in the file I add it? Do I just add it at the end?
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:39] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: add it at the end
[10:40] <asadmoosvi_> okay done
[10:40] <asadmoosvi_> now?
[10:40] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: did you save it?
[10:40] <asadmoosvi_> yeah
[10:40] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: type sudo depmod -ae
[10:41] <asadmoosvi_> depmod: WARNING: -e needs -E or -F
[10:41] <asadmoosvi_> That's what I got
[10:41] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: ok, nevermind type sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[10:42] <asadmoosvi_> okay now?
[10:42] <EriC^> ok, type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[10:43] <asadmoosvi_> Then?
[10:43] <EriC^> in the line that says quiet splash, add i8042.nopnp
[10:44] <asadmoosvi_> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i8042.nopnp"
[10:44] <asadmoosvi_> Like that?
[10:44] <EriC^> correct
[10:44] <EriC^> save, then type sudo update-grub
[10:46] <asadmoosvi_> done, now?
[10:47] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: type sudo nano /etc/modules
[10:47] <asadmoosvi_> Okay, then?
[10:48] <EriC^> add synaptics_i2c
[10:48] <asadmoosvi_> just at the end like last time?
[10:48] <EriC^> yeah
[10:48] <Timbo> anyone on 14.10?
[10:48] <Timbo> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:48] <Timbo>  libopenvg1-mesa-dev : Depends: libopenvg1-mesa (= 10.3.2-0ubuntu0.1) but 10.4.0~git20141112.7a82961b-0ubuntu0ricotz is to be installed
[10:49] <asadmoosvi_> alright done
[10:52] <asadmoosvi_> Eric, what do I do next?
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> Timbo: maybe time to upgrade?
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> Timbo: 14.10 will be eol pretty soon
[10:53] <doublethinker> I'm using Ubuntu. Is it possible to make a snapshot of it, back that up, wipe the drive, install Windows, and then install the OS with the snapshot/files?
[10:53] <Timbo> lotuspsychje: perhaps, but packages shouldn't be broken, eol or not
[10:53] <Timbo> manually installed the dependency and it's happy though
[10:53] <cfhowlett> doublethinker, no, but you can image and restore the exact copy of the present state
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> Timbo: did you add a ppa?
[10:54] <asadmoosvi_> ?
[10:54] <doublethinker> cfhowlett, what should I google for to learn how to do that?
[10:54] <Timbo> lotuspsychje: nah
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !backup | doublethinker
[10:54] <Timbo> at least not that would affect this
[10:54] <astroduck> Hi, I get 404 when doing sudo apt-get update: [https://dpaste.de/jEmg] my /etc/apt/sources.list [https://dpaste.de/gWv3]. I dont remember why I added i386 package anymore
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> Timbo: can you explain what you been trying to do exactly?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> doublethinker, cloning is one you should check
[10:55] <asadmoosvi_> Eric, I've added synaptics_i2c to /etc/modules
[10:55] <doublethinker> thank you
[10:55] <cfhowlett> doublethinker, happy2help!
[10:55] <Timbo> lotuspsychje: apt-get install libopenvg1-mesa-dev
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> Timbo: yes, but why?
[10:56] <Timbo> grabbing the build deps for qt5
[10:57] <asadmoosvi_> ?
[10:57] <noethics> https://i.imgur.com/H8KS85R.jpg
[10:57] <asadmoosvi_> Is the process done? The cursor still doesn't seem to work with my touchpad...
[10:58] <k1l_> noethics: this is not the right channel for this
[10:58] <asadmoosvi_> EriC^: Are you there?
[11:00] <asadmoosvi_> EriC^: Do I have to reboot my sytem now or do I still have to do something else?
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> Timbo: can this help? https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu
[11:01] <asadmoosvi_> EriC^: Hmm?
[11:01] <Timbo> lotuspsychje: don't worry, I already resolved the problem by manually installing the dependency
[11:01] <Timbo> lotuspsychje: thanks though
[11:02] <asadmoosvi_> ...
[11:03] <asadmoosvi_> um
[11:04] <asadmoosvi_> Is EriC^ still here?
[11:04] <VastRiver> #linuxba
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> !patience | asadmoosvi_
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> asadmoosvi_: its best you re-ask your question in one line here once in a while, so other can also help you
[11:05] <asadmoosvi_> ubottu: No, EriC^ was guiding me and he had told me to do some steps but now he has left so I am not sure what I have to do next...
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> asadmoosvi_: thats why you need to re-ask your issue here once in a while, if other volunteers leave
[11:06] <Johnny_Linux> asadmoosvi_  just stand by, maybe he is looking for something
[11:08] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: sorry, i'm back
[11:08] <EriC^> restart
[11:08] <asadmoosvi_> EriC^: No problem!
[11:09] <VastRiver> jion #linuxba
[11:09] <asadmoosvi_> EriC^: So it should be fixed after restarting? I'll restart and come back
[11:09] <EriC^> asadmoosvi_: ok
[11:14] <EriC^> asadmoosvi: did it work?
[11:14] <asadmoosvi> EriC^: It works now!
[11:14] <EriC^> cool
[11:14] <asadmoosvi> EriC^: Thank you so much!
[11:14] <EriC^> :D
[11:15] <EriC^> no problem!
[11:15] <asadmoosvi> EriC^: What was the problem?
[11:15] <EriC^> i don't know i just followed a guide from a bug report
[11:15] <asadmoosvi> EriC^: Alright, thanks again :)
[11:15] <EriC^> no problem :)
[11:16] <asadmoosvi> See you!
[11:16] <EriC^> see you
[11:16] <IrfanAlam> how to delete a fine from every where  ?
[11:16] <IrfanAlam> *file
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> IrfanAlam: what kind of file you want to delete?
[11:18] <IrfanAlam> I want to delete .htaccess file from all the directory
[11:21] <IrfanAlam> lotuspsychje: are you there >
[11:24] <DarkSim> Hello! I'm having problems with a HP printer on Ubuntu 14.04, I got this strange preset that it adds a lot of bottom margin and I noticed I can't edit any kind of settings for the printer, it just reverts as soon as I hit OK
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> IrfanAlam: can this help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3865/how-to-find-and-delete-duplicate-files
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> DarkSim: have you installed hplip?
[11:27] <DarkSim> lotuspsychje: Yes I installed the latest HPlip and it found the printer and everything, if I go into settings I think under job settings the advanced option "media-col: media-bottom-margin" might be what's causing it but I can't remove or edit that or any setting
[11:28] <DarkSim> lotuspsychje: and I can't seem to find any option in HP's own software which affects margin
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> DarkSim: did you try reboot to reset cups perhaps?
[11:28] <tiger0616> hello
[11:29] <DarkSim> lotuspsychje: rebooting...
[11:29] <kostkon> tiger0616: hi
[11:30] <TJ-> DarkSim: you need sudo privileges to edit printer settings I seem to recall
[11:33] <DarkSim_> lotuspsychje: Rebooted and it didn't work
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> DarkSim_: wich ubuntu version is this?
[11:33] <DarkSim_> lotuspsychje: 14.04
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> !info hplip trusty
[11:35] <DarkSim_> lotuspsychje: what does that mean?
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> DarkSim_: just wanna look at the version, not sure what causes this issue for you
[11:43] <soee> guys someone had this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11730061/ ?
[11:49] <TJ-> DarkSim: which printer model is it with the issue. It's not unknown for the PPD files to be incorrect and need fixing
[11:51] <Jakey2> Is there a sql server management studio for ubuntu
[11:51] <Jakey2> Is there a sql server management studio for ubuntu
[11:51] <Jakey2> ?
[11:53] <NicholasC> Jakey2, why would there be?
[11:53] <NicholasC> MSSQL is a Windows only product that only runs on Windows - why would there be a Linux-based management suite for it?
[11:53] <Jakey2> i swithing workflows to ubuntu
[11:54] <NicholasC> Nope, it doesn't exist. It won't work with Wine either.
[11:54] <Jakey2> *I'm
[11:54] <Jakey2> ok
[11:54] <NicholasC> Either RDP into a windows machine somewhere or set up a VM with Windows.
[11:55] <Jakey2> ok thanks for the info
[11:55] <ablest1980> hello need some help
[11:55] <crocket> How do I get a guest session on ubuntu gnome?
[11:56] <ablest1980> i install a cpu freq scaler thing how do i remove it?
[11:56] <crocket> The only way I know is to install lightdm on ubuntu gnome, which is not ideal.
[11:56] <DarkSim_> lotuspsychje: I balled on an option called "Pretty Print" or something and that seems to have solved it
[11:56] <TvFred> HI, I run chromium-browser from LXDE autostart file in kiosk mode, when sometimes an hard reset occours a "chromium didn't shut correctly..." message appears at next boot: how can override (ignore and not show) this message ??? some switch to add to starting line ?  Thanks
[11:57] <DarkSim_> lotuspsychje: is it OK if I ask another thing tho?
[11:57] <Jakey2> NicholasC, what about http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/?
[11:57] <NicholasC> crocket, https://github.com/ksinit/gnome-help-mobile/blob/master/user-addguest.html the actual docs have.. poofed. so save this as a text file and open it with a browser.
[11:58] <NicholasC> Jakey2, I personally dislike using non-official management suites for my software, so I don't know. Sorry.
[11:58] <Jakey2> fair point
[11:59] <NicholasC> TvFred, come on, mate, you could've googled this. https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-discuss/D2bsW1wdfac
[12:00] <hateball> TvFred: havent tried this myself, but have a look at http://superuser.com/questions/873381/how-can-i-disable-the-chromium-didn-t-shut-down-correctly-message-when-my-brow
[12:03] <luvenfu> can i hide and show the clock using terminal?
[12:03] <TvFred> NicholasC - hateball : thank you both !!!
[12:12] <ahop> Hi!
[12:13] <ahop> Can I send a file via FTP via Cmdline?
[12:13] <ahop> sorry: SFTP
[12:13] <hateball> !scp | ahop
[12:13] <Ben64> ahop: scp or rsync can do it, there are probably others
[12:13] <crocket> NicholasC, What is that?
[12:14] <NicholasC> crocket, and explanation on how to set up guest accounts in Gnome 3.
[12:14] <NicholasC> Which is what you asked.
[12:14] <crocket> NicholasC, Do you mean a set of instructions for gdm?
[12:14] <NicholasC> No, it's an HTML page. A webpage.
[12:14] <ahop> thanks about scp, i'll try this!
[12:15] <NicholasC> As I mentioned, the official docs seem to be down/missing, so this translates into a webpage
[12:16] <NicholasC> crocket, http://i.imgur.com/dza88ok.png
[12:17] <crocket> NicholasC, That's just a set of instructions for creating a passwordless account.
[12:17] <crocket> A guest session is a temporary session that wipes out every data on logout.
[12:17] <crocket> A passwordless account doesn't do that.
[12:17] <NicholasC> This is true.
[12:18] <NicholasC> http://askubuntu.com/questions/631/starting-a-guest-session-from-the-login-screen which I assumed you meant, as googling guest sessions gets your plenty of instructions.
[12:19] <luvenfu> what's the name of clock of ubuntu, can  i configure that by terminal?
[12:19] <crocket> NicholasC, All of them are nasty hacks that don't actually work.
[12:20] <lotuspsychje_> luvenfu: maybe there's a value you can change in dconf-editor?
[12:20] <kokut> anyone knows how to set up a cron every minute? this is for every 5 minutes right? */5 * * * *  so */1 * * * * would be for every minute?
[12:21] <Pumpkin-_> or just * * * * *
[12:21] <lotuspsychje_> !cron | kokut
[12:21] <luvenfu> lotuspsychje_: did you mean gsettings, because dconf is only the interface
[12:21] <lotuspsychje_> luvenfu: yeah, but not sure if clock can be enabled/disabled from there
[12:21] <luvenfu> lotuspsychje_: where are the configurations?
[12:22] <luvenfu> there is some file?
[12:22] <lotuspsychje_> luvenfu: you can use dconf write...from terminal also
[12:23] <kokut> anyone knows how to prevent cron from running again before finishing the last task?
[12:23] <luvenfu> lotuspsychje_: but it will save in the original file of config?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje_> luvenfu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72070/how-do-i-change-dconf-keys-without-a-gui-for-a-post-install-script
[12:24] <luvenfu> lotuspsychje_: thanks
[12:25] <ahop> Ben64: I tried with scp
[12:25] <ahop> but I cannot pass the password via scp filename root@ip:/filename
[12:25] <ahop> google gives me "sshpass"
[12:26] <ahop> but this is not available on my RPi with apt-get install sshpass
[12:26] <hateball> ahop: you should be prompted for the password
[12:27] <ahop> hateball: I need to do this in a script
[12:27] <ahop> so no prompt wanted
[12:27] <hateball> ahop: you can use ssh keys
[12:27] <mcphail> kokut: lots of ways. Often you get the process to check if a file exists. If not, create it and remove whenever process finishes. If file already exists, abort. Why do you need to run a job every minute?
[12:28] <ahop> hateball: is it short to do this?
[12:28] <kokut> mcphail: i'm testing stuff
[12:28] <lotuspsychje_> luvenfu: check this in dconf com.canonical.indicator.datetime
[12:28] <kokut> for some reason my cron is not working
[12:28] <luvenfu> lotuspsychje_: right
[12:28] <hateball> ahop: yes, look at http://www.lindonslog.com/linux-unix/ssh-keygen-keys/ for instance
[12:28] <kokut> i have many cron tasks at the same time, is that a probable cause?
[12:29] <luvenfu> yes, i did found it and the task i want, many thanks
[12:29] <lotuspsychje_> !yay | luvenfu
[12:30] <mcphail> kokut: might be, if you have created some form of race condition
[12:30] <mcphail> kokut: other causes more likely, though
[12:34] <ahop> hateball: I think it's the easier tutorial I've seen about this! thanks one million times!
[12:34] <ahop> now I understood how it works!
[12:35] <hateball> ahop: :)
[12:35] <ahop> I always found it complex before, now i see it's not
[12:35] <hateball> Poor documentation can make anything seem complex
[12:37] <Mion> ahop: allowing ssh as root is bad practice btw
[12:38] <Mion> ahop: also you should not use rsa2048, which sadly, is usually the default
[12:39] <ahop> It's only a toy server, so I don't think too much (now) about extra security
[12:48] <t0by> ahop, just saying that your toy server could be used for malicious purpouses if somebody gained access.
[12:48] <t0by> which may or may not land you into hot water.
[12:51] <dexstarrrr> Hi there, I have somehow managed to introduce screen tearing into my Ubuntu 15.04 install. I'm using a Haswell with integrated graphics
[12:52] <dexstarrrr> Nothing I can change in Compiz makes a difference
[12:52] <underyx> hey there
[12:53] <underyx> the trusty64 Vagrant box (https://atlas.hashicorp.com/ubuntu/boxes/trusty64) has been getting a bunch of updates recently, but none of them have any changes listed
[12:54] <underyx> how do I contact someone at canonical who's responsible for this?
[12:54] <underyx> I can't seem to find any way get in touch with them
[13:04] <Pici> underyx: I'd expect them to match the changelogs posted for the other cloud image builds, like at https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/unpacked/release_notes.txt
[13:04] <underyx> Pici, cool, didn't know this existed, thank you!
[13:05] <Pici> underyx: the source for the vagrant boxes are on that server too: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/
[13:12] <geothom230> does anybody know how to find usb wifi adapter that supported from ubuntu?
[13:16] <Jedi1> join /cisco
[13:17] <Fuchs> /join #channel
[13:17] <hateball> geothom230: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/WIRELESS/
[13:17] <geothom230> hateball:thanx man
[13:17] <hateball> geothom230: other things may of course work, google your chipset model + ubuntu
[13:28] <cheetahw26> the wifi on my box appears to be stuck in some strange loop... it keeps connecting/disconnecting to the wireless router... on my router I keep seeing: "associated", "deauthenticated due to local deauth request"  I thought it might be the router so I tested on a few others, but I experience the same issue
[13:29] <hateball> cheetahw26: what chipset is this?
[13:30] <hateball> and driver
[13:30] <cheetahw26> the error on the box is: rockchip 3188 I believe... not sure what driver, how can I find out?
[13:31] <cheetahw26> the error on the box is: Link down reason: WLC_E_LINK
[13:31] <cheetahw26> before that ctrl-even-disconnected
[13:31] <cheetahw26> event*
[13:31] <hateball> cheetahw26: "lspci -k" should give relevant info
[13:32] <cheetahw26> no pci... it's a rockchip
[13:33] <zacktu> I am trying to execute a program that fails for not finding the shared library libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.  Is that in one of the packages in synaptic?
[13:34] <TJ-> zacktu: "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0"
[13:43] <Rush2112> hey guys, im trying to extract some files. i'm using the command "su -c 'tar zxvf filename.tar.gz -C ~/Documents
[13:43] <Heather|TRIGGERE> http://8ch.net/v/src/1434541411492.png
[13:43] <Rush2112> it then lets me input something, starting with >, but it keeps letting me do that forever
[13:43] <Rush2112> am I doing something wrong?
[13:44] <hateball> Rush2112: well that line is missing a " at the end. and I dont understand why you're using su at all
[13:44] <hateball> the string for tar itself is missing an ' also
[13:45] <zacktu> libgtk2.0-0 is already installed.   Could it be another package?
[13:45] <Rush2112> well, its because when i try to just extract the tar.gz normally (i.e. without any terminal stuff) it gives me an error and tells me something was truncated
[13:46] <Rush2112> what can I use instead of SU?
[13:48] <HoloPed> Hey guys, how do I commandline mount a windows usb drive? The problem is that it has a 1k partition (the first one) and want the mount to be smart enough to use the biggest partition
[13:49] <hateball> !mount
[13:49] <hateball> HoloPed: You'll explicitly specify partition to mount regardless of its size
[13:49] <HoloPed> hateball, this is an automated system
[13:50] <HoloPed> I'm looking for a way to do it without specifiing the partition
[13:50] <fantasma> e ae
[13:51] <Starface> l
[13:51] <Rush2112> hateball: Is there another way I can extract a file like that?
[13:51] <Starface> Try you Luck Here http://tinyurl.com/p2vb8po
[13:52] <hateball> HoloPed: suppose you could use something like "fdisk -l" with awk or something to query the largest partition, perhaps there are smarter ways
[13:52] <hateball> HoloPed: I mean "parted -l"
[13:53] <hateball> Rush2112: "tar xvzf file.tar.gz -C ~/Whatever" should be sufficient so long as your permissions are correct
[13:54] <Rush2112> how can i checck my permissions?
[13:54] <Rush2112> also when i try that, i get gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[13:54] <Rush2112> tar: unexpected EOF in archive
[13:54] <Rush2112> tar: error is not recoverable: exiting now
[13:54] <hateball> Perhaps the file is corrupted
[13:55] <Rush2112> i guess i can just download it again and try again
[13:55] <Rush2112> though it did happen with two downloads
[13:55] <Rush2112> https://eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/luna/SR2/eclipse-java-luna-SR2-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[13:55] <Rush2112> thats what i'm trying to install, if it helps
[13:56] <hateball> Rush2112: any reason you're not installing Eclipse from the repos?
[13:57] <Janels1> why don't you use vim
[13:57] <Pici> vim isn't exactly an IDE.
[13:57] <NetworkingPro> http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/06/pornhub-launches-indiegogo-campaign-for-first-adult-film-in-space
[13:58] <Pici> hateball: iirc, the version in the repositories  is terribly out of date
[13:58] <Pici> NetworkingPro: please don't share random links in this channel.
[13:58] <NetworkingPro> haha sorry man
[13:58] <NetworkingPro> i actually didnt look at what chan i was in
[13:58] <NetworkingPro> didnt mean to
[13:58] <Janels1> vim + javacomplete
[13:58] <NetworkingPro> #awkward
[13:58] <hateball> Pici: I see
[13:59] <Rush2112> hateball: does the checksum on that site matter? i can pick MD5, SHA-1, or SHA-512
[14:00] <hateball> Rush2112: no, but you may as well go with md5 and verify it
[14:09] <Rush2112> hateball: I'm not getting Eclipse from the repos because I have no idea what that means. You want me to install it through terminal? I'll do that but I don't know how.
[14:14] <robbix> Rush2112: Eclipse is an IDE if I remember correctly. Type sudo apt-get install eclipse to download it and it should be available in your app list afterwards.
[14:15] <robbix> A Java dev tool.
[14:15] <hateball> Rush2112: either what robbix said, or using the software centre
[14:15] <robbix> well yeah, software centre will do it too
[14:16] <zacktu> My error message is this: "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".  I found the file "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0"  I can do a symbolic link to it, but what is the specific name of the file to link?
[14:18] <mgolisch> zacktu: stuff in /usr/lib should be found by default your probably running a 32bit and missing the 32bit version of that library
[14:18] <mgolisch> +app
[14:20] <acqant_> what's the secret to add a static ip with preseed on 14.04.2
[14:21] <acqant_> nothing seems to work ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/1361902 )
[14:22] <zacktu> mgolisch: My system is 64bit.   "file" says that it is an  ELF 32-bit LSB executable.  So is there a next step?
[14:22] <heeen> how do I get into the grub CLI
[14:22] <heeen> if I hold shift it just say "GRUB _"
[14:22] <mgolisch> zacktu: yes install the 32bit version of that library
[14:22] <heeen> *says
[14:23] <acqant_> ubottu:   I'm using packer so I can put it in the boot prompt but I can't find docs on that.
[14:24] <mgolisch> zacktu: you should be able to install it by appending :i386 to the package name when installing with apt
[14:25] <zacktu> mgoolisch: is that apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386  ?
[14:26] <regedit> Jordan_U: hey
[14:33] <Tarelerulz> can you hook an external Blu ray player in
[14:35] <Tarelerulz> will a USB Blu ray player work with you until for playing commercial Blu ray?
[14:35] <petrvs> Tarelerulz: don't see why not
[14:36] <Termin4l> hi, can anyone help me wiht sume BithcX irc clinet settings plsease :)
[14:36] <Tarelerulz> my stand-alone unit is not working correctly for Netflix or YouTube. I thought about building a small computer to replace my Blu ray player.
[14:38] <petrvs> Termin4l: /msg alis list *bitchx*
[14:38] <EriC^^> Termin4l: bitchx stopped a long time ago
[14:38] <EriC^^> it has security issues
[14:38] <petrvs> Tarelerulz: standalone what?
[14:38] <Tarelerulz> standalone Blu ray player.
[14:40] <petrvs> Tarelerulz: so you're going to replace it with a computer and a bluray-only player
[14:40] <petrvs> Tarelerulz: that makes sense to me
[14:41] <petrvs> Tarelerulz: although the bluray player that doesn't work for netflix/youtube probably does work for bluray (video) playback just fine
[14:42] <Tarelerulz> I primarily use it for Netflix and YouTube. so the fact that crashes a lot is a problem.
[14:44] <maggots> Problems with libcrypto.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory    whats the problem here
[14:44] <manacit> you probably need to install libcrypto
[14:45] <maggots> i have it installed
[14:45] <manacit> do you have the dev package installed?
[14:45] <manacit> sudo apt-get install libcrypto++-dev I believe
[14:45] <maggots> hold on
[14:48] <maggots> whats the fedora help handle on freenode
[14:49] <xrfang> hello after use encfs (or any fuse tool like sshfs) to mount a directory, the target directory is owned by ROOT, how to solve this (i.e. keep the mounted folder to myself so that I can write to it without sudo.
[14:52] <petrvs> xrfang: mount it as non-root in the first place
[14:52] <petrvs> maggots: /msg alist list *fedora*
[14:52] <maggots> thanks
[14:56] <jxshxx> Hello - If I dual boot using 2 different Linux OS, can I use the second OS to mount and access the other partition?
[14:56] <xrfang> petrvs, I did NOT mount it as root
[14:57] <petrvs> xrfang: then what you mounted is all owned by root, chown it
[14:57] <petrvs> jxshxx: sure
[14:58] <xrfang> petrvs: you are right it is owned by root, but I am having problem chown it. I will try to solve that first...
[14:59] <gtrmtx> hey guys im having a nightmare getting my network to work properly on the main server...running version 3.4 and here's what my /etc/network/interfaces and ifconfig looks like: https://pastee.org/767aq
[14:59] <gtrmtx> sorry i need to clarify its proxmox version 3.4
[15:00] <jxshxx> petrvs, Would you say it's a fairly easy process, or more advanced?
[15:00] <petrvs> jxshxx: easy
[15:01] <anonymous_> hello_
[15:02] <jxshxx> petrvs, cool.  I'm on it.  Thanks!
[15:02] <petrvs> jxshxx: either it'll just show up in your file manager as a mountable volume, or you can add it to /etc/fstab
[15:06] <IT_Guru> Ubuntu Unity is complete GARBAGE, JUNK, CRAP !!  Totally shameful coded trash.
[15:06] <IT_Guru> Don't agree with me?  Post your comments here:  www.googledrive.com/host/0BzPzPOUFeX8acWRoU0RXd3VPdEU
[15:06] <IT_Guru> Give a good reason to like unity.  noobs
[15:07] <petrvs> IT_Guru: what if we don't care what you think either way? =)
[15:08] <IT_Guru> petrvs, submit your comment :- )
[15:09] <cheetahw26> is there anyway to configure wifi with Network-Manager using shell?
[15:10] <tr3y> I'm a bit of a linux noob running ubuntu 14.04, was wondering if someone could tell me how to install libimobiledevice-1.2.0? I downloaded and extracted the package to a folder and I don't know which commands to run in the terminal to install it
[15:12] <boreeto> tr3y: you should just normally use apt-get to install things
[15:13] <boreeto> so use apt-cache search <name> to search for a package
[15:13] <petrvs> cheetahw26: nmtui
[15:13] <boreeto> and then apt-get install <name> to install the package
[15:13] <petrvs> tr3y: very much what boreeto said
[15:14] <boreeto> tr3y: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/apt-get.html
[15:15] <tr3y> Great, thanks everyone.
[15:15] <fxw> hi
[15:15] <fxw> bonjour....
[15:16] <petrvs> fxw: adios
[15:17] <stacks88> on most of my ubuntu systems, if i type a command that belongs to a package that is NOT installed, it tells me what it is..  (The program 'rz' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:), can someone tell me what package i need to install on this new ubuntu 14.04 to get this?
[15:17] <stacks88> when i type a command it doesnt tell me that message
[15:18] <petrvs> stacks88: command-not-found
[15:18] <stacks88> ah yes thanks
[15:18] <petrvs> via: https://www.google.com/search?btnI=&q=ubuntu+program+not+currently+installed
[15:19] <cheetahw26> I have nm-tool, but not nmtui...
[15:19] <stacks88> i did google but i guess i didnt search the right words
[15:19] <cheetahw26> oh, it's something I can install...
[15:20] <petrvs> cheetahw26: might need to run it as root/sudo
[15:20] <petrvs> stacks88: what'd you search?
[15:24] <cheetahw26> can't find it anywhere... tried searching NetworkManager-tui and just ntui
[15:24] <cheetahw26> err... nmtui
[15:25] <herrkin> hello ubuntu community, I have  been googling for about a week  about a problem I have with 2 huawei modems that I own. no help so far.
[15:25] <petrvs> cheetahw26: ask apt-file
[15:26] <herrkin> the thing is that I had a claro huawei modem, it worked just fine, ubuntu switched it to modem and I could see 3 ttyUSB ports in dmesg and they were available in /dev/
[15:26] <Rush2112> anyone here have experience with wine and steam? i'm looking to use this https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14322 but I don't know how I'd install the game, should I launch Steam IN Wine and install the game while in the WIne emulator?
[15:26] <herrkin> but now after I plugged a second huawei modem, this time from digitel venezuela I cant access the ports
[15:27] <herrkin> they show up in dmesg as ttyUSB* but when I go to /dev/ they are not there
[15:27] <herrkin> there is a file which I cannot access called huawei_mobile
[15:27] <herrkin> its not a port.
[15:28] <herrkin> I dont know what todo, I need to finish an app for a company and now I cant access any of those phones
[15:28] <herrkin> I mean modems
[15:28] <herrkin> both modems show 3 ttyUSB in dmesg but they dont appear in /dev/
[15:30] <cheetahw26> nope.. nothing... I'm running on armhf with 12.04 maybe it's not available there... looks like exactly what I need though, wonder if I can compile and install from source?
[15:31] <conorMcGregor9> whats the difference between installing something with 'sudo' or using sudo -i, then installing?
[15:31] <cheetahw26> NetworkManager 0.9.4.0
[15:32] <k1l> conorMcGregor9: there is none. but the risk of doing wrong commands is bigger on the root-shell since there is no"you are not allowed to do that".
[15:34] <HoloPed> which command line will return the main dev that the OS is mounted on? Like sba or sdb
[15:34] <conorMcGregor9> k1l, i used sudo -i, then installed newer version of ruby, when i sudo -i, the application works, when i use 'sudo app' it says cannot find command
[15:34] <boreeto> HoloPed: mount will tell you whats mounted where
[15:35] <conorMcGregor9> sudo uses the /root/.basrc file?
[15:35] <k1l> conorMcGregor9: well. when talking about installing i thought you were using the package management with apt-get
[15:35] <boreeto> also sudo fdisk -l is useful to see what discs / partitions you have
[15:35] <k1l> conorMcGregor9: there is a difference in the env variables, of course.
[15:35] <k1l> !sudo
[15:36] <HoloPed> boreeto, how do you use mount to show what is mounted to / ?
[15:36] <conorMcGregor9> k1l, well i actually installed it under normal user, i then used sudo -i to set it as the default version
[15:37] <csb> HoloPed, mount | grep " on / "
[15:37] <conorMcGregor9> now sudo command doesnt work, only sudo -i, the command works
[15:37] <HoloPed> csb, thanks
[15:39] <conorMcGregor9> k1l, you know why this is happening?
[15:39] <k1l> conorMcGregor9: see if its in users PATH
[15:39] <conorMcGregor9> yeah it is
[15:40] <k1l> and see the bots message for explaining at the end
[15:40] <conorMcGregor9> the application is
[15:40] <k1l> !sudo | conorMcGregor9
[15:40] <k1l> i need to leave now for training
[15:44] <csb> HoloPed, If you want only the device name you can use: mount | grep " on / " | sed 's/[ \t].*//;/^$/d'
[15:45] <HoloPed> oh nice
[15:45] <HoloPed> can you tweak that to return only sdb
[15:45] <HoloPed> that is just voodoo to me
[15:46] <boreeto> HoloPed: it gets a bit more tricky if your distro installs with KVM as default
[15:47] <boreeto> but generally mount should give you all you need
[15:47] <asadmoosvi> Hi, I a using a Dell 13" 7348 notebook. Should I have secure boot enabled?
[15:47] <petrvs> asadmoosvi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[15:48] <boreeto> asadmoosvi: I _think_ that with the new Ubuntu boot CD/DVD they will detect if your machine uses UEFI now
[15:49] <boreeto> what petrvs says :)
[15:49] <phinze> utlemming: ping and hello! wanted to chat with you about the cloud-images automation pipeline, specifically the vagrant portion. feel free to msg me directly or direct me to another room and/or person.
[15:49] <asadmoosvi> boreeto: Secure boot is currently disabled on my system and I'm not facing any issues. I am just wondering whether enabling it makes any difference?
[15:51] <petrvs> if it ain't broke, don't fix it
[15:51] <zuno> hey
[15:52] <petrvs> hey
[15:52] <zuno> whats up
[15:52] <zuno> ?
[15:59] <Rush2112> If I install a program using Wine, where do I go to launch it via Wine?
[16:00] <heeen> how the heck was it possible for grub to update in such a way that my system would not boot anymore
[16:01] <TJ-> heeen: That depends on what happened previously and what the specific symptoms are
[16:03] <heeen> TJ-: I have a GPT formatted disk without a bios boot partition
[16:03] <heeen> it seems before GRUB was able to fit into just the MBR?
[16:03] <heeen> I rebooted after some updates and now it refused to boot
[16:04] <TJ-> heeen: Was the system booting in UEFI mode?
[16:04] <heeen> I used a 15.10 live disk to chroot and reinstall grub, which told me it would have to use blocklists or something
[16:04] <heeen> no
[16:04] <heeen> so I had to add a partition for just grub
[16:04] <heeen> I just wonder how it could even end up in this state
[16:05] <heeen> I prefer an outdated grub over a non-booting system
[16:05] <heeen> the system in question runs 14.10
[16:09] <fayez> hello
[16:10] <Beetlejuice> hello fayez
[16:10] <ernalve> Hi. I have this problem: I tried replacing unity desktop with Mate but after removing unity and while installing mate, my ubuntu session logged out. Now, Ubuntu won't login: it asks for my password but says it's not correct. ¿What can I do?
[16:10] <jhutchins> heeen: Do you have an encrypted disk?
[16:10] <Beetlejuice> do you have use aptitude for remove?
[16:11] <Pici> Beetlejuice: for removing packages? You can use aptitude, or apt-get, or whatever gui package managers you prefer.
[16:11] <jhutchins> ernalve: It's possible that you manged to set or create files owned by root in your home directory.
[16:11] <Beetlejuice> ernalve: log on tty1 with your user pass ( control + alt + f3 ) and log and: passwd
[16:11] <jhutchins> ernalve: Can you log in on the console?
[16:11] <Beetlejuice> Pici i know yeah yeah
[16:12] <Beetlejuice> i removed kde, and unity, for xfce, so i meant i used aptitude
[16:12] <ernalve> I removed Unity on the terminal, pasting code I found on the web. I think it was trough apt-get
[16:12] <Beetlejuice> ernalve: its odd you cant log or you log but get "kicked"?
[16:13] <ernalve> I can't log
[16:13] <Beetlejuice> if you cant log due the password reboot in safe mode and change the user pass
[16:13] <Beetlejuice> i have a problem with lightdm, it shows the mouse when i boot but no X. i need to killall lightdm and log with X
[16:14] <xangua> ernalve: what code? what web? the MATE wiki has specific instructions, you don't need to follow a random site instructions
[16:14] <Beetlejuice> well thats not critical
[16:14] <ernalve> I tried safe mode -or a similar option that I found on the grub- but it still asks for password
[16:14] <Beetlejuice> at some point the screen was white so i backup xorg.conf .. long history
[16:15] <Beetlejuice> ernalve: if you dont have the root password i meant ... i have no possible solution idea so reinstall
[16:15] <Beetlejuice> try to lon on tty
[16:15] <Beetlejuice> log*
[16:16] <Beetlejuice> its a good idea every time you install make a : sudo passwd
[16:17] <ernalve> ok, I know the root password but it just won't work for login on the gui desktop. What is tty?
[16:17] <Beetlejuice> press Alt+Control+F1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
[16:17] <Beetlejuice> thats tty1,2,3,,6,7,8,9 ^
[16:18] <jhutchins> Usually there are only 6 VTs.
[16:18] <Beetlejuice> oki doki
[16:18] <Beetlejuice> yes jhutchins
[16:18] <Beetlejuice> for example my f8 anf f9 doesnt work
[16:18] <jhutchins> X usually takes No. 7.
[16:18] <Beetlejuice> or 1
[16:18] <Beetlejuice> or 9...
[16:19] <Beetlejuice> but yes on linux usually 7
[16:19] <Beetlejuice> freebsd takes 8 or 9 i dont remember
[16:19] <Beetlejuice> well thats random i suppose it varies depending your vga
[16:20] <ernalve> do I need to press all this keys at the same time? on a terminal? what should I do after this?
[16:20] <Beetlejuice> at the same time alt + control + 1 (to) 7
[16:20] <ernalve> by the way: this is the web that I followed http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/install-mate-desktop-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[16:20] <Beetlejuice> its something like "internal terminal" of linux
[16:21] <Beetlejuice> you are using 14.04?
[16:21] <ernalve> yes
[16:21] <Beetlejuice> ah... well change the user password login on tty1 as root
[16:21] <Beetlejuice> then passwd user
[16:22] <Beetlejuice> but make sure lightdm or whatever login manager you are using, its rejecting you due the password
[16:22] <Beetlejuice> if is not rejecting your user for the password all we are doing is useless
[16:24] <Beetlejuice> you should consider creating another user
[16:24] <Beetlejuice> see man adduser ; or man useradd
[16:28] <gambl0re> are you supposed to install npm and nodejs as regular user or as root?
[16:29] <gambl0re> i dont understand..
[16:30] <ernalve> ok, I will go back to linux -I'm using windows from my dual boot right now- and I'll tell you how it goes. thanks
[16:33] <petrvs> gambl0re: I wouldn't install either
[16:33] <Beetlejuice> ok good luck
[16:34] <vbgunz> I have a weird problem. I have to boot up twice *TWICE* in order to boot up once successfully. The first time, it's a black screen that never changes. I ctrl+alt+del and reboot, go through the grub menu, hit enter and it boots up successfully. This happens every time, what the hell is happening?
[16:34] <xangua> there is no "code to remove unity" there ern
[16:34] <vbgunz> also, my grub refuses to detect Windows 7 or another ubuntu installation
[16:35] <sgo11> hi, I got an android phone. I have two computers. One is a laptop which is running 14.04 64bit OS. Another one is a PC which is running 14.04 i386 OS. My PC can detect my android phone and mount the mtp storage automatically. but my laptop does nothing. why? thanks.
[16:40] <gambl0re> npm WARN uninstall not installed in /usr/lib/node_modules: "ember-cli"
[16:41] <gambl0re> what does this mean? how do i uninstall ember-cli using npm
[16:44] <heeen> jhutchins: no
[16:45] <chotaz`w> Is it possible to get automatic DHCP settings for my network connection and overwrite just the DNS Servers?
[16:49] <sgo11> chotaz`w, a hardcoded way. try to change the file "/etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head"
[16:52] <ernalve> Hi. I'm back (I removed Unity and now can't login on ubuntu). I just tried changing my password but on the terminal it says that such user does not exist. I also tried creating a new user but this error arised: could not block etc/group. It also showed a message reporting error 10 in regard to usr/sbin/groupadd -g 1001
[16:52] <Jen88> can someone give me the commandline install openvpn thank or links to web page
[16:52] <ernalve> what can I do next?
[16:52] <xangua> there is no "code to remove unity" in the instructions you followed ernalve
[16:53] <chotaz`w> sgo11, that'll work, thanks a bunch!
[16:53] <Jen88> i want install on 15.04
[16:53] <sgo11> chotaz`w, you're welcome. :)
[16:54] <ernalve> you're right xangua. I removed it following with this code: sudo apt-get remove unity unity-asset-pool unity-control-center unity-control-center-signon unity-gtk-module-common unity-lens* unity-services unity-settings-daemon unity-webapps* unity-voice-service
[16:54] <ernalve> I got this from here: http://blog.desdelinux.net/eliminar-unity-e-instalar-mate-cinnamon-ubuntu-14-10/
[16:55] <ses1984> i have an ubuntu desktop with a VPN connection configured through network manager. i need to activate this VPN connection...there's one problem though I only have SSH access to the box now
[16:57] <xangua> ernalve: for future references the official MATE wiki has instructions to both install MATE and replace Unity by MATE http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download
[16:58] <xangua> or you can just do a fresh install of Ubuntu MATE
[16:59] <ernalve> thanks, I did a really stupid thing just pasting code from different sites: Now I want to recover access to my linux OS and files. What should i do?
[17:04] <arpit> hi
[17:05] <petrvs> hi arp
[17:05] <petrvs> ernalve: what's the problem?
[17:06] <ernalve> This is my current issue: I removed unity and tried installing Mate. After that my session logged out and now when I try to log in it says the login attempt has failed
[17:08] <ernalve> I removed Unity from a terminal using this code: sudo apt-get remove unity unity-asset-pool unity-control-center unity-control-center-signon unity-gtk-module-common unity-lens* unity-services unity-settings-daemon unity-webapps* unity-voice-service
[17:12] <ernalve> petrvs: I'm reading this article: http://askubuntu.com/questions/283985/unable-to-load-session-ubuntu-in-12-04
[17:12] <ernalve> it looks like a similar problem. The difference is that I'm on 14.04
[17:13] <ernalve> and when I tried using apt-get from terminal -after the problem- I got an error report in relation to var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:14] <colbyf> ernalve, if no package manger is running, then delete the lock file
[17:14] <colbyf> that includes ubuntu store or synaptics manager
[17:14] <myndzi> fwiw i was in here the other day asking about a cron problem and managed to run down the rest of it today; had to install an mta in local mode to get cron output, modify the path environment (within the crontab) so node could be found, and you certainly can have commands of the form "cd /workingdir && ./script" in a crontab file
[17:14] <TJ-> ernalve: did you use "sudo apt-get ..." ?
[17:15] <colbyf> its sayign locked so the command is executing
[17:15] <colbyf> sry you could be very right
[17:15] <colbyf> TJ
[17:16] <ernalve> Yes, I used sudo
[17:17] <TJ-> ernalve: That can be a transient issue if the update checker is running, which will sometimes happend very shortly after booting. Does that same error get reported every time you try the command?
[17:18] <IntranetSupportR> Hi guys...when u have the time...I kinda need some help with an Ubuntu 14.04.01...
[17:19] <jhutchins> ernalve: Rather obviously you need sudo to run aptitude.
[17:19] <petrvs> IntranetSupportR: when you have time, go ahead and specify the problem
[17:19] <jhutchins> IntranetSupportR: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[17:20] <ernalve> Yes, I actually can't login to ubuntu. I boot to the login screen and when I write my password it says login attempt failed. I've tried going to a terminal as root, and I got this messages.
[17:20] <IntranetSupportR> I have a server installed with ESXi and an Ubuntu VM on top of it, the server has a RAID 5 ... with 3 disks...one disk crashed last night...afterwards the VM won't init...instead it's halting
[17:20] <vbgunz> I have this issue where my Kubuntu installation can no longer find any other OS throughout the system. grub refuses to see Windows 7 or Kubuntu 15.04. How can I fix this?
[17:20] <IntranetSupportR> it throws: init failsafe main process killed by term signal
[17:21] <darthanubis> vbgunz, try #kubuntu
[17:21] <conorMcGregor9> vbgunz, have u tried an update-grub?
[17:21] <vbgunz> too few people in there, grub should be the same on both, I'm hoping for better luck here
[17:21] <vbgunz> yes, update-grub only finds my main installation
[17:22] <fulanito> hello
[17:22] <conorMcGregor9> you could add it manually
[17:22] <IntranetSupportR> I've booted the VM with a live CD, mounted the lvm volumes and I've looked in dmesg syslog kernlog and boot.log.... I don't understand much of what I see...
[17:22] <fulanito> I am using an ubuntu distro remotely
[17:22] <JohnDoe1972> guys what the FUCK !!!! Im on a xp laptop and it says i have to update adobe flash player and java but when i try to update jave it says XP is too old 0_0
[17:22] <fulanito> unfortunately I activated the ufw without ssh rule
[17:22] <JohnDoe1972> this is just to watch you tube videos
[17:22] <gambl0re> shit i changed the permissions of usr/lib and  now i cant use any sudo commands....how do i fix this
[17:23] <fulanito> I have unmounted the volume and attached it to another instance
[17:23] <fulanito> the question is
[17:23] <JohnDoe1972> dam i used to be able to watch video on win 98 ffs
[17:23] <xangua> JohnDoe1972: no curses here and this is #ubuntu not ##windows
[17:23] <JohnDoe1972> ohh :)
[17:23] <JohnDoe1972> my appologies
[17:23] <IntranetSupportR> JohnDoe1972: XP is deprecated....upgrade to some sort of linux distro :)
[17:23] <TJ-> gambl0re: reboot in recovery mode, or break into the initrd shell, mount the file-system read/write, and correct the permissions
[17:23] <JohnDoe1972> im in the process of doing so
[17:23] <fulanito> what conf file I need to edit inorder to disable ufw
[17:23] <fulanito> or add ssh rule
[17:23] <fulanito> ??
[17:23] <JohnDoe1972> going for kylie 14.04
[17:23] <conorMcGregor9> JohnDoe1972, why not put win 7 on?
[17:24] <JohnDoe1972> ive 7 on my desktop
[17:24] <JohnDoe1972> i liketo keep xp around
[17:24] <ernalve> I read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/283985/unable-to-load-session-ubuntu-in-12-04 and I'd like to try it. What do you think?
[17:24] <JohnDoe1972> its an old laptop !
[17:24] <xangua> !ot
[17:24] <gambl0re> can you give me a walkthrough?....
[17:24] <JohnDoe1972> conorMcGregor9, its an old laptop
[17:24] <fulanito> any help?
[17:25] <JohnDoe1972> i really resent being forced to upgrade applications and hardware so i can do the same damn thing
[17:25] <conorMcGregor9> JohnDoe1972, just put ubuntu on it lol
[17:25] <JohnDoe1972> im going to
[17:25] <JohnDoe1972> this is why ive got this channel open
[17:26] <IntranetSupportR> petrvs: I don't know if you saw my story few lines up the page...can you please give me a hint on that issue - thank you
[17:26] <JohnDoe1972> hypothetically ! i install ubuntu on say 20 - 30 gig partition using grub !! than later u decide to abandon windows anderase it from its partition. can i then recover that partition an enlarge my ubunto partition to encompass it ?
[17:27] <fulanito> JohnDoe1972, can you help me?
[17:27] <conorMcGregor9> hypthetically speaking i beleive thats possible
[17:28] <IntranetSupportR>  I have a server installed with ESXi and an Ubuntu VM on top of it, the server has a RAID 5 ... with 3 disks...one disk crashed last night...afterwards the VM won't init...instead it throws: init failsafe main process killed by term signal, thing is ESXi is booting and acting good, the VM is starting...but at one point....kernel panic and dies
[17:28] <JohnDoe1972> fulanito, 0_0 im no expert but will try !
[17:28] <fulanito> thanks
[17:28] <conorMcGregor9> although i had problems with doing that before JohnDoe1972, apparently the space had to be at the end of the disk lol
[17:28] <JohnDoe1972> fulanito, what appears to be the problem ?
[17:28] <fulanito> I enabled ufw without ssh rule
[17:28] <fulanito> so I dont have access to the instance
[17:28] <fulanito> I detached the volume and attached to another instance
[17:28] <JohnDoe1972> ahh im the wrong man to talk too
[17:28] <vbgunz> well, I tried again for the 15th time to try and manually add an entry to grub. let's see if this one gets me to the menu which is all I want
[17:28] <JohnDoe1972> im a beginner like you  !
[17:29] <petrvs> IntranetSupportR: if I were you I'd convert the system to be raidless
[17:29] <fulanito> any one?
[17:29] <petrvs> any one what
[17:30] <fulanito> petrus, who can help me? I need to edit ufw rules manuelly either to desable it or to add ssh rule
[17:30] <fulanito> cause I cant connet to the instance
[17:30] <fulanito> I have already attached the volume to another instance
[17:30] <fulanito> but I dont know what files I need to edit to disabel or add ssh rule
[17:31] <fulanito> petrus, do you know the answer?
[17:31] <IntranetSupportR> petrvs: I'm looking for a way to make it boot normally again...though If I can't do it...I will reinstall and reintegrate all services and web content on a new instance...but that's kinda time consuming
[17:31] <conorMcGregor9> fulanito, what is the ufw running on?
[17:32] <fulanito> what do you mean? the disto is ubuntu 14.04
[17:32] <IntranetSupportR> petrvs: would fsck repair anything if the issue is generated by the failed RAID ?
[17:32] <conorMcGregor9> can u physically access the machine?
[17:32] <conorMcGregor9> and disable the ufw?
[17:32] <fulanito> nope, it is a virtual instance
[17:32] <fulanito> so I move the volume to another one and attached it
[17:33] <IntranetSupportR> petrvs: thing is the VM is simple lvm...no raid...the raid si hardware based and VMWare ESXi between hardware and VM...so
[17:34] <TJ-> *never* use RAID5 these days, and especially *never* with 3 disks!
[17:34] <armguy> Is there a way to prevent a route defined in transport to not fall back to other gateways if the route in transport has an outage? I am running 12.04.*
[17:34] <conorMcGregor9> fulanito, wont it be quick to just setup another virtual instance?
[17:35] <IntranetSupportR> TJ: I agree...is not my server...I just have the honor to repair it :)
[17:35] <fulanito> nope; because I have stuff in ther I need
[17:35] <fulanito> to be running
[17:35] <fulanito> I mean this instance has a lot of configuraton
[17:36] <TJ-> IntranetSupportR: I sympathise! It sounds like at least one of the VMs has been corrupted. Is the array still rebuilding?
[17:36] <tomorrow> Excuse me. In konsole terminal, C-return C-. C-; C-= didn't work, have a good solution? Someone help me, thks.
[17:37] <armguy> Is there a way to prevent a route defined in transport to not fall back to other gateways if the route in transport has an outage? I am running 12.04.*
[17:38] <conorMcGregor9> C-return?
[17:38] <armguy> maybe asking about cntrl + c ?
[17:38] <conorMcGregor9> yeah
[17:38] <conorMcGregor9> but if hes pressing c + return in the console...
[17:39] <IntranetSupportR> TJ: thing is I removed the bad disk but I don't have a good one to replace now... so is running in two disks with array in status degraded... in theory I should be fine right ? I mean...ESXi is running ok...the VM tries to boot but it hangs with kernel panic...what I don't understand...what is the reason...did the Ubuntu got a crash right when that disk member failed or this is a permanent error until the moment the RAID will be back in normal m
[17:40] <tomorrow> In terminal, emacs's keybinding.
[17:40] <IntranetSupportR> TJ: right now I'm copying the VM files and transfer them to another healthy ESXi server... I'll import the vmx file and start the VM ... see what happens
[17:41] <TJ-> IntranetSupportR: In theory the array should operate in degraded mode, but this is one of the issues with RAID5... there are so many complex variations that can cause failures. At the least the parity is incorrect. At worst the data is.
[17:41] <lisbeth> On ubuntu server 14.04 64 bit i don't have an /etc/shells directory and I am not sure why
[17:42] <tomorrow> :(
[17:43] <IntranetSupportR> TJ: thing is even if I can't manage to start the VM...I have access to data...my fear now is when I'll try to copy the data from a live cd to a ssh / ftp destination.... if it fails to read .... damn
[17:44] <IntranetSupportR> TJ: from your experience ... when Ubuntu is virtualized...I guess there's less to troubleshoot than if Ubuntu would run on physical server ?
[17:45] <petrvs> there's less (virtual) hardware you could be using, so sure
[17:46] <IntranetSupportR> Ok guys... thanx for your time and thoughts...I appreaciate...have a great day all !
[17:47] <armguy> Is there a way to prevent a route defined in transport to not fall back to other gateways if the route in transport has an outage? I am running 12.04.*
[17:52] <ImJune> hello
[17:52] <ImJune> The software center is not finding my gtx960 drivers like it used to (14.04lts)
[17:53] <notpratheek> Hello, I got a question, why are the packages in ubuntu 14.04 LTS a bit outdated ?
[17:53] <ImJune> It was finding them before with issues
[17:53] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[17:54] <ShapeShifter499> so I'm getting the following error running ubuntu inside of a chroot
[17:54] <ShapeShifter499> sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges?
[17:54] <armguy> cause 14.04 is not bleeding edge its an lts release notpratheek. Things get locked and slowly pushed out
[17:54] <ShapeShifter499> any ideas why guys?
[17:55] <notpratheek> armguy: is it possible to track packages' progress ? (cause I wanted to follow about golang, which is currently 1.2.1 in 14.04,but the newest is 1.4.2)
[17:55] <ImJune> this is so lame
[17:55] <ImJune> was fine before
[17:55] <xangua> !latest | notpratheek
[17:56] <armguy> see if there is a ppa maybe? Ubuntu is not the best OS for staying in line with upstream releases
[17:56] <ImJune> even can't find the proper packages when I run apt-get
[17:56] <armguy> stability != older packages
[17:57] <armguy> Ubuntu's "stability" is in their locking of packages, and "stability" is really relative and is by no mean more so through a locked lts setup that only gets specific updates for specific reasons.
[17:58] <notpratheek> armguy: Oh ok ! got it ! :) (recently shifted from Fedora, which is why I was wondering about these slightly older packages !)
[17:58] <ImJune> stability lol I would actually get mad about that statement if ubuntu wasn't free
[17:58] <armguy> same here Ubuntu is more unstable than my Arch Linux prod boxes
[17:59] <ImJune> but the community is kinder
[17:59] <armguy> but my company insists on Ubuntu in prod. Gotta love the endless will not fix bugs in lts versions
[17:59] <ImJune> I can't stand arch
[17:59] <ImJune> I get more love in the BSD world
[18:00] <OerHeks> ImJune, support for gtx960 came with the 346 driver  http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/81252/en-us  which is not standard in 14.04
[18:00] <pbx> stop debating distros or i'll start saying how much i love windows
[18:00] <ImJune> lol
[18:00] <ernalves> Hi, everyone. I'm back with the same problem: uninstalled Unity, tried to install Mate and now can't login. I just tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop from terminal using the guidelines here http://askubuntu.com/questions/283985/unable-to-load-session-ubuntu-in-12-04
[18:00] <armguy> I dont care about love in a community I want solid stuff that gets fixed. Not stuf with many will not fix bugs. Then you get to piece meal together some BS fix to work around crap that should be fixed
[18:00] <ImJune> I already downloaded those drivers Oer
[18:00] <OerHeks> !ot | armguy
[18:00] <ImJune> I just need to install them I wish I could just get the update app to see it
[18:00] <OerHeks> and watch your language please, thanks.
[18:01] <armguy> lol I am answering what someone asked
[18:01] <armguy> how is crap a bad word?
[18:01] <armguy> I did not say shit !
[18:01] <ShapeShifter499> crud is better
[18:01] <ImJune> I dunno this guy is power tripping or something
[18:01] <ernalves> but I got an error message: can't write /var/libr/dpkg/lock (read only) and can't write to var/cache/apt either
[18:01] <armguy> lmfao
[18:02] <armguy> how so I am answering a questions someone else had and giving my opinion. When is sharing ones opinion a power trip?
[18:02] <taysu> halo
[18:02] <armguy> Did not realize #ubuntu is communist controlled entity where opinions are not welcome to questions about Ubuntu lts and the locked packages in it
[18:03] <ernalves> I tried sudo rm /var/libr/apt/lists/lock but it says read only again... what can I do?
[18:03] <OerHeks> ImJune, xorg edgers provides nvidia 346 349 352 https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:03] <notpratheek> ernalves: that means apt-get is running (somewhere)
[18:03] <ImJune> Oer thanks
[18:04] <notpratheek> ernalves: which is why, you can't run another process of apt-get
[18:05] <ImJune> in fairness I don't like arch rolling release system either it has broken on my AMD hardware many times
[18:05] <ImJune> arch is so far from beginner friendly
[18:05] <gambl0re> my ubuntu vm is messed up....display is lagging, the menu at the top of the app (file, edit, view search) is constantly hiding and showing, sudo commands arent working.
[18:05] <armguy> if you want beginner friendly sure not for you.
[18:05] <gambl0re> anybody can help me?
[18:05] <notpratheek> ImJune: what about Fedora ?
[18:05] <armguy> but watchout ImJune you are not off topic
[18:05] <mrchairman> My monitor keeps shutting off, even though I set it not to. What can I do?
[18:05] <ImJune> Fedora is ok
[18:05] <ImJune> I mean its similar to centOS that I use at work
[18:05] <xangua> !ot
[18:06] <ImJune> well I don't use a gui therer
[18:06] <ernalves> notpratheek: I see what you mean, what should I do?
[18:09] <iceroot> if have a mount point in /etc/fstab, as it seems since ubuntu 15.04 /etc/fstab is not used automaticly anymore? on older ubuntu version and debian the /etc/fstab mountpoint is still working, of 15.04 i have to execute sudo mount -a  to get all my points from that file. so were there any changes?
[18:09] <AmazonianDude_> not sure whats going on guys but my ubuntu desktop crashed while playing a youtube video
[18:09] <AmazonianDude_> and it went to a black screen
[18:09] <AmazonianDude_> then a series of fast moving text
[18:09] <AmazonianDude_> then kicked back to login screen
[18:10] <jhutchins> AmazonianDude_: Sounds like it rebooted.
[18:11] <jhutchins> ernalves: Do you know how to list running processes?
[18:11] <ernalves> no, please tell me how
[18:11] <AmazonianDude_> Alls I was doing was playing a 45 minute video on a 64 bit system, with 8 GB RAM installed, AMD R7-240 Graphics card. and it forced a reboot? o.o
[18:11] <jhutchins> AmazonianDude_: Could've hit a temp limit.
[18:11] <jhutchins> AmazonianDude_: When was the last time you cleaned the cooling system?
[18:12] <mrchairman> I ran out of space on my hard drive because I had 3 virtual machines. I didn't think a VM was that big.
[18:12] <AmazonianDude_> I cleaned the fans not too long ago
[18:12] <KowabungaDude^_> test
[18:12] <AmazonianDude_> I don't think it's a temp limit. The fans are blowing cold air
[18:13] <jhutchins> AmazonianDude_: Is lm_sensors installed?
[18:13] <AmazonianDude_> How to check?
[18:13] <AmazonianDude_> I don't know I just fear for the possibilty someone remotely connected to my desktop or something. idk.
[18:14] <ImJune> I am going to try ubuntu 15.04 lts
[18:14] <ImJune> oops I mean just 15.04
[18:14] <ImJune> last time it found the drivers for my card with no fuss
[18:15] <conorMcGregor9> ernalves, ps aux
[18:15] <ImJune> I give up on 14.04 on this machine
[18:15] <ImJune> I have already lost over an hour trying to get this graphics driver working
[18:15] <conorMcGregor9> 15.04 is dev/testing?
[18:16] <xangua> !15.04 | conorMcGregor9
[18:16] <conorMcGregor9> O.o lol
[18:16] <ImJune> yes but it is not an LTS
[18:16] <conorMcGregor9> !14.04
[18:16] <ImJune> 9 month support on the odd numbers usually
[18:16] <AmazonianDude_> I have 15.04 installed on a 120 GB SSD
[18:16] <ImJune> nice
[18:16] <ImJune> I want an SSD
[18:16] <ImJune> for my desktop
[18:17] <ImJune> I should sell myself somewhere for a PciE one lel
[18:17] <AmazonianDude_> What desktop hardware you got?
[18:17] <ImJune> AMD a8 7600
[18:17] <ernalves> I can do a ps aux and report back, the issue is that I'm currently on windows -from my dual boot- because ubuntu just won't login. Is there a way to save the ps aux results to my windows drive so I can later paste it for you?
[18:17] <ImJune> asrock mini itx board
[18:17] <ObrienDave> OMG i just had to completely disable IPV6 to properly update my system :S
[18:18] <ImJune> gtx 960 evga
[18:18] <ImJune> hard drives suck 1 is a 1tb toshiba sshd which is slow anyway and the other a WD black 750gb
[18:18] <ImJune> which I install nix systems on
[18:18] <conorMcGregor9> ernalves, you can mount your windows hard drive, then just output the result '>' to the mount
[18:18] <ImJune> oh yea ram is 2400mhz radeon 8gb 4gb x 2
[18:19] <AmazonianDude_> AMD FX-6000 6-Core CPU, R7-240 Graphics
[18:19] <AmazonianDude_> 8 gig ram
[18:19] <ImJune> I have an extra r7-240 4gb version here
[18:19] <ImJune> its xfx
[18:19] <ImJune> low profile
[18:19] <ImJune> used to run it in hybrid crossfire
[18:19] <AmazonianDude_> And 3 hard drives, 1tb Windows 7 drive, upgradable to W10 next month, 120 gb ssd running ubuntu 15.04
[18:19] <ImJune> nice
[18:20] <AmazonianDude_> and this 500gb hdd running ubuntu 14.04
[18:20] <ImJune> I want a new motherboard and an intel chip
[18:20] <ImJune> I just feel more compatibility
[18:20] <ImJune> x99 sabertooth
[18:21] <ImJune> and maybe the 6 core intel 5XXX I dunno the numbers
[18:21] <ImJune> I
[18:21] <Beetlejuice> intel mobos are good
[18:21] <Beetlejuice> 5920 5920 or 5960
[18:21] <ImJune> I don't think intel makes them
[18:21] <Johnny_Linux> asus or bust
[18:21] <Beetlejuice> eh 5930
[18:21] <ImJune> they make cpu I know that
[18:21] <ImJune> maybe an ssd or two
[18:22] <Beetlejuice> 1 os 240 is enought
[18:22] <Beetlejuice> of of
[18:22] <ImJune> yeah maybe my wife is getting me a new ssd soon
[18:22] <Beetlejuice> i have 1 tb
[18:22] <ImJune> I evesdropped :)
[18:22] <Beetlejuice> sata
[18:22] <ImJune> SSD?
[18:23] <Beetlejuice> no no, there's ssd, sata, and a hybrid ssd-sata, this is sata
[18:23] <ImJune> sata is a connection type
[18:23] <Beetlejuice> i meant big
[18:23] <ImJune> ssd can be sata PCie
[18:23] <Beetlejuice> eh yes
[18:23] <Beetlejuice> "normal" not fast
[18:23] <ImJune> ok
[18:24] <ImJune> so your 1tb drive is non ssd
[18:24] <Beetlejuice> i have 2 ports of those on the mobo with 2x1tb
[18:24] <ImJune> its an HDD
[18:24] <Beetlejuice> no its not
[18:24] <ImJune> same here
[18:24] <Beetlejuice> hard disk drive indeed
[18:24] <jhutchins> It might be a good idea to take this discussion to ##hardware or somewhere it's not off-topic.
[18:24] <ImJune> mine is a toshiba hybrid but its performance is a joke
[18:24] <Beetlejuice> sure
[18:24] <Beetlejuice> this is ubuntu relate ImJune
[18:24] <Beetlejuice> i was duding
[18:25] <ImJune> sure Or I can just reboot try installing 15.04 and not punch my screen
[18:25] <Pici> /70/70
[18:25] <Beetlejuice> i installed 15.04 succesfully with a tcl bot which works
[18:26] <Beetlejuice> usually he doesnt work
[18:26] <Beetlejuice> is for make server ops etc for ircd
[18:26] <Beetlejuice> glines etc
[18:26] <Pici> Is there a support question you had?
[18:27] <Beetlejuice> i ran a old ircu local with a znc, the bot, etc
[18:27] <Beetlejuice> no Pici sorry
[18:27] <Pici> Beetlejuice: #ubuntu-offtopic exists if you just want to chat, there are a bunch of us there.
[18:27] <Beetlejuice> i dont understand why that bot works on my setup and not on normal ubuntu
[18:27] <Beetlejuice> OK
[18:28] <Beetlejuice> Pici: wait
[18:28] <Beetlejuice> Pici:  http://pastebin.com/cXVRYipg ^
[18:30] <Pici> Beetlejuice: Perhaps it only supports specific versions of tcl?
[18:31] <Beetlejuice> perhaps but you cant imagine how many versions of tcl i've installed and technically should be only 8.5x
[18:32] <Beetlejuice> i will case i loose this installation 8.5.x all of them ty
[18:36] <lisbeth> What is it called when you send data requests to a server in the url, and then the server outputs the answers back in the page content?
[18:37] <jhutchins> lisbeth: An API?
[18:38] <lisbeth> jhutchins: Maybe. I'll ask again if it turns out that's not what it is.
[18:39] <gambl0re> i f*cking hate linux...
[18:39] <jpds> gambl0re: Noone's forcing you to use it.
[18:39] <lisbeth> gambl0re: why?
[18:39] <gambl0re> i spend more time troubleshooting problems then doing actual work..
[18:40] <lisbeth> gambl0re: how long have you been using linux. After you get used to it becomes easy
[18:40] <gambl0re> im now reinstalling ubuntu for the like the 3rd time now cause something got screwed up..
[18:40] <jpds> gambl0re: What are you trying to do?
[18:40] <flexus> hi. did something change in 3.19.0-21 lowlatency? i got a "usb 1-3-port4: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?" on my snd_usb_audio
[18:41] <gambl0re> i was trying to install some packages using npm, as usual i was getting error messages
[18:41] <gambl0re> googled for like an hour
[18:42] <gambl0re> tried uninstall a couple other packages, as usual, getting errors.
[18:42] <gambl0re> google for another hour..
[18:42] <gambl0re> fuck this
[18:42] <vbgunz> I have an nvidia card and noticed that on one boot, I boot up and my terminals are blank. completely blank, I didn't know this but cryptsetup was stopping me from booting up because it was asking for a password and I never saw the prompt. anyhow, the terminals remain dark even after logging in. How do I get my terminals back?
[18:42] <jpds> gambl0re: Stop wanting to use npm?
[18:43] <lisbeth> gambl0re: The package manager for ubuntu is called APT, and is the main way you should be installing packages. What were you trying to install?
[18:43] <vbgunz> if I reboot, every other boot, the terminals work and I can see prompts, etc. it's the weirdest issue
[18:43] <gambl0re> it doesnt matter now...i already started the reinstalltion process..
[18:44] <lisbeth> gambl0re: If you let us talk you through your issues I can almost garuntee you we can teach you how to solve the problem on your own next time. Why don't you explain in detail the steps you were taking and where the problem has arisen?
[18:45] <lisbeth> gambl0re: Some of us have been using linux for multiple years and are experts.
[18:45] <zykotick9> vbgunz: the black VTs is common when you use nvidia.com's driver.  Did you?
[18:46] <vbgunz> zykotick9: yeah, on 14.10 but no on 15.04 (used the provided driver)
[18:46] <gambl0re> i cant really explain to you the problem cause i dont really know. i was trying to install some web development packages (nodejs, ember) and they require npm
[18:46] <cheetahw26> I want to continue to use network-manager, but I can't figure out how to connect to a wifi network with wpa2 via the command line...
[18:46] <gambl0re> and whenn i try installing using npm shit never works..
[18:46] <genii> vbgunz: Sometimes it keeps toggling between Intel and Nvidia if you have one of those hybrid cards
[18:46] <vbgunz> it's the same issue though on 14.10 and 15.04. one boot, it's a black screen, the next boot I can see everything fine
[18:47] <jpds> gambl0re: There's a package for nodejs.
[18:47] <jpds> !info nodejs | gambl0re
[18:47] <vbgunz> hmm.. the intel onboard graphics is not plugged in. every display is plugged into the nvidia card
[18:48] <gambl0re> i dont even know what you just said right here..
[18:48] <jpds> gambl0re: sudo apt-get install nodejs
[18:48] <lisbeth> gambl0re: Keep in mind some of the people on here are very smart but not very good at explaining things.
[18:48] <jpds> gambl0re: Installs nodejs from the official repos.
[18:49] <regedit> TJ-: heya
[18:49] <gambl0re> ok let me ask you guys this...
[18:49] <TJ-> regedit: Hey. How you progressing?
[18:49] <gambl0re> when i install ANYTHING using package manager, do i run using sudo or user?
[18:49] <jpds> gambl0re: sudo.
[18:50] <gambl0re> i keep getting conflicting answers...
[18:50] <lisbeth> jhutchins: I think an API is the solution I was looking for.
[18:50] <regedit> TJ-: not too well unfortunately; removing battery and using AC only didnt seem to help, how is that supposed to disarm intel rapid start anyway?
[18:50] <lisbeth> gambl0re: to install anything on any linux system you need to be an administrator. In linux we call this a sudoer.
[18:50] <regedit> if that is the issue anyway
[18:50] <lisbeth> gambl0re: to make any command a sudoer command, type sudo infront of it
[18:51] <lisbeth> gambl0re: Example. "apt-get install firefox" becomes "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[18:51] <vbgunz> ok, tried something, gotta reboot to test
[18:51] <TJ-> regedit: Sometimes that will cause the settings to be cleared in laptops/notebooks.
[18:51] <lisbeth> gambl0re: you also want to update before you install anything any time you install anything. The command for this is "sudo apt-get update"
[18:51] <gambl0re> if i install a package using sudo, does that mean only root has access to those files?
[18:52] <lisbeth> gambl0re: No. The developer of the package determins who has access to it, unless you change it. Most software can be used by all users.
[18:53] <lisbeth> gambl0re: however if you are moving around or editing files as sudo or root that will usually cause root to own it.
[18:53] <lisbeth> gambl0re: Usually you only want to use sudo if you are required to.
[18:53] <TJ-> regedit: I'm a bit concerned that the fwts cannot read any variables. That suggests the firmware is customised to a degree where the OS cannot properly 'talk' to it, which might explain why a Windows Recovery can also cause this issue. From my research I believe its cause is that the free space in NVRAM isn't being garbage-collected which is causing weird knock-on effects since some variables cannot be altered.
[18:54] <regedit> TJ-: sounds like what that other guy was talking about in that lonely bios-mods forum thread
[18:54] <lisbeth> gambl0re: the cool thing is there are these things called aliases which can make typing easier on you. You can take a long string like "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install" and make it a single word like "checkinstall." then all you have to type is, checkinstall <packagename> to install something.
[18:55] <Pici> lisbeth: well, checkinstall is already the name of another tool, so it would be weird to do that.
[18:55] <TJ-> regedit: I've finally managed to bisect the kernel to the commit that breaks it - the issue I've been working on since last Friday. At least 1 of us is making progress :)
[18:56] <regedit> TJ-: heh :) great success to you!
[18:57] <vitothe> !list
[18:57] <vitothe> ciao
[18:57] <regedit> TJ-: this is about as close as i ever got to playing with linux kernel - http://eudyptula-challenge.org/
[18:57] <regedit> TJ-: well actually, just reading that page, and not actually doing anything with it :p
[18:57] <gambl0re> yea but whenever i try to install anything without usng sudo, it always gives me an error msg saying you dont have permission or some BS like that
[18:57] <ernalve> Hi, I have this problem: I tried replacing Unity with Mate in Ubuntu 14.04 but now I can't login to Ubuntu. I get to the login screen, type my password and get a message saying the login has failed. Any help?
[18:58] <TJ-> regedit: I've been doing kernel development since 2005 ... started off by necessity
[18:58] <sha1sum> Sooooo, my dumb self accidentally created the root mount point on a regular drive and the home directory on a SSD when I meant to do the reverse. How can I use a live USB stick to switch the data and change the bootloader?
[18:58] <lisbeth> ernalve: try ctrl+alt+f1 and see if that takes you to a terminal
[18:59] <gambl0re> also i changed the folder permissions on usr/lib and thats when my system started falling apart...
[18:59] <cheetahw26> eh... finally found something that works in a checkbox script...
[19:01] <qdii> hey
[19:01] <lisbeth> gambl0re: taht's becuase linux is designed so that you can't install something without sudo. The purpose of this is that only the person who is the administrator of the computer can control what's installed.
[19:01] <qdii> why can't I escalate like this: "echo password | sudo -S su"
[19:01] <lisbeth> gambl0re: It is perfectly ok to use sudo to install software. Just be careful when installing something from third parties.
[19:01] <rory> qdii: you can set it up so you can run "sudo su" without a password
[19:01] <rory> qdii: and then you wouldn't need to resort to such hackery
[19:01] <regedit> TJ-: cool wow, this is the story of the linux world innit
[19:02] <regedit> hah that's a good pun in(n)it
[19:02] <lisbeth> gambl0re: everything in your repo should be safe to install. This is one of the benefits of a package management system.
[19:02] <qdii> rory my case is a bit complicated, I really need to feed the password
[19:03] <ernalve> hey, I get to terminal but can't login from there either
[19:03] <sha1sum> Can I just switch the data between the partitions, change /etc/fstab, and change the bootloader configuration?
[19:03] <ernalve> it just won't recognize my user as a valid one
[19:03] <qdii> it's a ssh connection established from a php script
[19:03] <maximus2> where the  heck is the chat room
[19:03] <lisbeth> gambl0re: if you are looking for a way to install software that is a little easier than the command line, but a bit better than the ubuntu software center, try using synaptic.
[19:03] <lisbeth> gambl0re: synaptic is a very good software manager that will take care of alot of the compilcated things for you
[19:03] <rory> qdii: look into "expect" - I don't know it in enough detail to help you directly, but it's a way of scriping the input of text into other programs
[19:05] <leshaste> I would like to stitch two scanned images together which have a large overlap.. is there a tool for this?
[19:05] <lisbeth> ernalve: are you sure your username and password are correct?
[19:07] <ernalve> lisbeth: I think so. I'm writing my password as always, no caps lock or mistakes, and the username is the one that shows up on my login screen...
[19:07] <jhutchins> leshaste: You could do it with The Gimp.
[19:07] <pbx> leshaste, you mean to find the overlap programmatically?
[19:07] <lisbeth> ernalve: could you show me a picture of your screen?
[19:08] <iceroot> if have a mount point in /etc/fstab, as it seems since ubuntu 15.04 /etc/fstab is not used automaticly anymore? on older ubuntu version and debian the /etc/fstab mountpoint is still working, of 15.04 i have to execute sudo mount -a  to get all my points from that file. so were there any changes?
[19:08] <ernalve> lisbeth: i'm using windows now from my dual boot, because linux won't login
[19:08] <lisbeth> ernalve: do you have a picture phone?
[19:09] <iceroot> qdii: dont use expect for ssh, its to buggy, there is only one correct way and that is "pubkey". everything else is wrong, insecure and buggy
[19:09] <ernalve> lisbeth, not actually
[19:09] <ernalve> no phone
[19:09] <ernalve> but I can try any suggestions and report back
[19:10] <iceroot> qdii: and also sudo su is very wrong, use sudo -i instead and never ever use something like "echo password". its stored in your bash history and maybe also in log files
[19:10] <lisbeth> ernalve: well you are going to want to try a process called recovery
[19:10] <lisbeth> ernalve: if your user and password isn't working there's a few ways to do this
[19:10] <lisbeth> ernalve: one is to try to save your install, and this is by far the hardest option.
[19:11] <lisbeth> ernalve: if all you want is the files in your documents and pictures etcetera, then you can just copy them over and then reinstall your ubuntu system
[19:11] <gambl0re> i still dont get it...whats the difference if i use sudo or not when installing something?
[19:11] <ernalve> lisbeth: that's ok
[19:11] <lisbeth> gambl0re: if you type sudo it makes the command you are running an admin command
[19:11] <iceroot> gambl0re: sudo is used to ecexute something as root, if not using sudo, your current user is used
[19:11] <lisbeth> gambl0re: if you don't type sudo it is not an admin comand
[19:11] <iceroot> !sudo | gambl0re
[19:12] <bekks> sudo elevates your privileges to run a command with root privileges.
[19:12] <iceroot> gambl0re: always use sudo, dont login as root directly
[19:12] <gambl0re> if im the only person using this computer then it doesnt really matter
[19:12] <iceroot> gambl0re: of course it does
[19:12] <lisbeth> gambl0re: anything that coudl potentially mess up your system, they make you type sudo for two reasons. First of all so that only the administrators can do it. Second of all because they want you to understand that the operation comes with risk.
[19:13] <iceroot> gambl0re: you are executing EVERYTHING as root when you are logged in as root also in cases where root is not needed
[19:13] <lisbeth> gambl0re: basically any time you use sudo just be careful
[19:13] <lisbeth> iceroot: puppy linux runs everything as root
[19:13] <iceroot> gambl0re: its much easier to kill a system if you are root all the time
[19:13] <iceroot> lisbeth: and?
[19:13] <iceroot> lisbeth: windows xp also runs everything as admin
[19:13] <lisbeth> iceroot just making small talk
[19:14] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | lisbeth
[19:14] <ernalve> lisbeth: how can I recover my files?
[19:14] <lisbeth> ernalve: pop in your ubuntu disk and when you get to the option to "try ubuntu or install ubuntu" click "try ubuntu". It should give you access to all of your files.
[19:14] <bekks> iceroot: Windows XP doesnt run everything as admin. It is the user who logs in with the Administrator account.
[19:15] <iceroot> bekks: and the default user is an admin account
[19:15] <Bashing-om> ernalve: Loss of access is often times loos of authorizatio to acces "your" /home . ' ls -al /home ; ls -al /home/<Username> ' Do "you" own the files ?
[19:15] <lisbeth> SchrodingersScat: The chat isn't very active right now. I don't see the harm in going slightly off topic with this little traffic.
[19:16] <bekks> iceroot: And using the Administrator account for your daily work is strongly discouraged, as on every OS. So let's move on.
[19:16] <iceroot> bekks: but i think we both agree that it is bad to login as admin/root instead of a normal user and only get admin/root access if needed
[19:16] <iceroot> bekks: +1
[19:17] <ernalve> I'm the only user in this computer, I guess that's not the problem
[19:17] <gambl0re> i cant do step 3.1 - http://installfest.railsbridge.org/installfest/linux
[19:17] <gambl0re> im getting a long ass error msg AS USUAL
[19:17] <Bashing-om> ernalve: Check and see, will only take a tic in time .
[19:17] <ernalve> ok, thanks
[19:18] <lisbeth> gambl0re: for future reference when in IRC getting help, it is beneficial to you to post the guide you are following at the outset of the conversation.
[19:18] <gambl0re> ok...
[19:18] <gambl0re> do you want me to paste the error message?
[19:18] <lisbeth> gambl0re: send us the output of your terminal when you attempt step 3.1
[19:18] <lisbeth> the entire output
[19:18] <Bashing-om> ernalve: Could possibility that "root" owns "your" files ... not "you" . check and make sure with the above.
[19:19] <gambl0re> ricky@ricky-VB:~$ curl -L get.rvm.io | bash -s stable
[19:19] <gambl0re>   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
[19:19] <gambl0re>                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
[19:19] <gambl0re> 100   184  100   184    0     0    518      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--   522
[19:19] <gambl0re> 100 22721  100 22721    0     0  21923      0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:-- 41086
[19:19] <gambl0re> Downloading https://github.com/rvm/rvm/archive/1.26.11.tar.gz
[19:19] <mherweg> how can i install missing language packs on the command line ?
[19:19] <Falcon> How could i use Ubuntu on a currently windows 8 PC
[19:19] <lisbeth> gambl0re: Oh. Do you know how to open a .tar.gz file?
[19:20] <n344ly> Falcon: dual boot or in a virtual
[19:20] <Falcon> dual boot
[19:20] <gambl0re> https://gist.github.com/crazyboy867/1ef5035d2b328ead43db
[19:20] <gambl0re> theres the error msg
[19:20] <n344ly> !uefi | Falcon check this
[19:20] <jpds> gambl0re: Dude.
[19:20] <gambl0re> i know how to open it using the gui
[19:20] <gambl0re> what?
[19:21] <jpds> gambl0re: ANY software that makes you run a bash script from the internet, is just going to be trouble.
[19:21] <Falcon> thanks n344ly
[19:21] <mherweg> Falcon: boot from stick or DVD
[19:21] <n344ly> Falcon: Be sure to preface the user nick your addressing, you can tab complete nicks. ;)
[19:21] <gambl0re> im just following instructions....what do i know?
[19:21] <lisbeth> gambl0re: I think that the keys that that guide uses are expired. Try using this guide for that step: https://rvm.io/rvm/install
[19:21] <gambl0re> dont blame me, blame the author
[19:22] <Falcon> mherweg, i have tried that it did install then showed bootstrap error
[19:22] <lisbeth> gambl0re: I am not blaming you
[19:22] <Falcon> n344ly, thanks
[19:22] <lisbeth> gambl0re: it's pretty common
[19:22] <n344ly> gambl0re: I'm not sure any of that is supported here realistically, just saying.
[19:23] <mherweg> !wubi
[19:23] <jpds> gambl0re: If I were you, I would be doing this in a virtual machine.
[19:24] <lisbeth> jpds: since gambl0re is willing to reformat is machine so readily I don't think that is a necessary step.
[19:24] <n344ly> mherweg: Key note in bot's nessage, "Do not use Wubi" it is not supported.
[19:24] <mherweg> ok
[19:25] <gambl0re> i am doing in a vm
[19:25] <JohnDoe1972> guys why are there so many distros and what do they really offer thats different from each other ?
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> JohnDoe1972  that's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:26] <JohnDoe1972> jesus really
[19:26] <mherweg> never tried win8. with win7 dual boot works fine
[19:26] <JohnDoe1972> couldnt you just answer the question
[19:27] <n344ly> mherweg: If you have W8 make sure you know if a UEFI setup or not, this is a crucial issue.
[19:27] <trijntje> JohnDoe1972: because different people like different things. Its like asking why there are so many different foods
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> JohnDoe1972  this is not the place for discussion, stick to support questions
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> or so many different carq
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> cars
[19:27] <JohnDoe1972> ok i need some support
[19:27] <JohnDoe1972> im going to install linux but im confused what distro to choose
[19:28] <JohnDoe1972> what considerations should i have when choosing a distro
[19:28] <conorMcGregor9> start with ubuntu
[19:28] <JohnDoe1972> why ?
[19:28] <conorMcGregor9> u can always install another should u not like it
[19:28] <n344ly> JohnDoe1972: You are missing the point this is ubuntu support on installs and problems only.
[19:28] <conorMcGregor9> because its somewhere to start
[19:28] <lisbeth> JohnDoe1972: the most guides out there on the internet are for ubuntu 14.04 linux unity edition
[19:28] <lisbeth> JohnDoe1972: you will get the most support on that distro
[19:28] <trijntje> JohnDoe1972: its easiest to stick with the biggest ones (ubuntu and mint I think), that way there is a lot of support
[19:28] <Bashing-om> JohnDoe1972: ^^ ther is no one answer, the resonses can be many . Linux, no one size fits all .. And yes the discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic. Support for ubuntu does belong here .
[19:28] <conorMcGregor9> i used debian for years and recently changed to ubuntu
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> JohnDoe1972  if you have to start somewhere, start with ubuntu
[19:29] <JohnDoe1972> ok folks thanks for the positive support.
[19:29] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: when you ask in #ubuntu start with ubuntu :) for other comparisons ask in ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:29] <conorMcGregor9> and cant beleive how easier things were with ubuntu
[19:29] <conorMcGregor9> it comes with 3.16 kernel, so i didnt have to backport a newer one
[19:29] <kostkon> JohnDoe1972, becuase you've alredy made the first step, joined its support channel
[19:29] <JohnDoe1972> any links to guides for nobs
[19:29] <conorMcGregor9> installing nvidia drivers was as simple as clicking a radio button...
[19:29] <k1l> conorMcGregor9: 15.04 even ships with 3.19
[19:30] <p5yc071c> has anyone recently had an issue with the boot folder filling up with updates?
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> !manual | JohnDoe1972 start here
[19:30] <lisbeth> JohnDoe1972: I have plenty of time today. If you talk to me in PM I can guide you through everything you need to know.
[19:30] <trijntje> JohnDoe1972: ubuntu comes with good documentation by default, just search for 'help' in the menu after installing
[19:30] <JohnDoe1972> thx ubottu
[19:30] <JohnDoe1972> :D
[19:30] <JohnDoe1972> ;)
[19:30] <n344ly> lisbeth: We like every thing on the channel
[19:30] <lisbeth> n344ly noted
[19:31] <n344ly> ;)
[19:31] <conorMcGregor9> i didnt know there was a 3.19 kernel lol
[19:31] <n344ly> peer review is all
[19:31] <lisbeth> n344ly: is it acceptable to invite people to be social network contacts?
[19:32] <n344ly> lisbeth: Thetre is no rule here basically, just on help you really want that peer review, we all make mistakes. ;)
[19:32] <vooze> Hi, I cant seem to add the google chrome to the gnome shell launcher/dock. If i do, it just lanches another instance. What could be the cause of this?
[19:33] <conorMcGregor9> if u click terminal does it open new ones too?
[19:33] <n344ly> vooze: you are right clicking it in the search and adding?
[19:35] <Bashing-om> p5yc071c: Lots ! The system will not impose on your desires and remove old kernels. That is at your direct descretion . What returnd ' df -h ; df -i ' ?
[19:35] <ptree> guys do you know how to update llvm to the "development" version?
[19:35] <Jordan_U> regedit: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr" and "ls /sys/fs/pstore/".
[19:36] <n344ly> ptree: This is repo supported.
[19:36] <conorMcGregor9> ptree, just install the dev version
[19:38] <p5yc071c> I'm having trouble installing updates as the boot folder is overfilled...
[19:38] <n344ly> p5yc071c: Do you have a seperate boot partition?
[19:38] <HoloIRCUser> 14.04LTS. After applying software update and restarting, I'm no longer able to log in graphically - the screen freezes, responds to mouse but never loads sidebar. How can I get to a console?
[19:38] <p5yc071c> no
[19:39] <p5yc071c> *Not that I know of* ; )
[19:39] <k1l> p5yc071c: remove old kernel packages. see with "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" what are installed
[19:39] <n344ly> p5yc071c: pastebin sudo fdsik -l
[19:39] <k1l> p5yc071c: oh, please show a "df -h" first in a pastebin
[19:39] <ebernhar2son> I just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my new laptop with a 2560x1440 screen.  Annoyingly the fonts are all the wrong size, any idea how to fix: http://i.imgur.com/QH5WhAj.png
[19:39] <Bashing-om> p5yc071c: K; show us : ' df -h | pastebinit ' IF you are not at 100% capacity there may be an easy solution .
[19:39] <p5yc071c> Filesystem                   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[19:39] <p5yc071c> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root  901G  195G  661G  23% /
[19:39] <p5yc071c> none                         4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[19:39] <p5yc071c> udev                         7.8G  4.0K  7.8G   1% /dev
[19:39] <p5yc071c> tmpfs                        1.6G  1.4M  1.6G   1% /run
[19:39]  * ebernhar2son notes that screenshot didn't work right either ...
[19:39] <p5yc071c> none                         5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[19:39] <n344ly> err fdisk -l and k11's command
[19:40] <k1l> !paste | p5yc071c
[19:40] <HoloIRCUser> I've tried ctrl-alt-F1 through F6, no dice, ctrl-alt-backspace, nothing.
[19:40] <conorMcGregor9> fdisk will require root
[19:41] <Bashing-om> HoloIRCUser: Can you boot from grub's "recovery" kernel ? From ther we can look .
[19:41] <n344ly> HoloIRCUser: Have you installed propietary graphic drivers?
[19:41] <p5yc071c> n3rrtly -  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[19:41] <p5yc071c> /dev/sda1               1     1050623      525311+  ee  GPT
[19:41] <p5yc071c> Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
[19:41] <p5yc071c> /dev/sda2   *     1050624     1550335      249856   83  Linux
[19:41] <p5yc071c> /dev/sda3         1550336  1954209791   976329728   83  Linux
[19:41] <HoloIRCUser> N334ly: no.
[19:42] <k1l> p5yc071c: stop pasting the stuff in here. use a pastebin website like the bot told you
[19:42] <treelzeb_> !paste | p5yc071c
[19:42] <conorMcGregor9> df -h doesnt work?
[19:42] <HoloIRCUser> Bashing-om: okay, rebooting
[19:42] <genii> p5yc071c: If you don't start using a pastebin we'll have no choice but to boot you, especially as you have been told to use one more than once npw
[19:43] <HoloIRCUser> Bashing-om okay, I have a root shell. Now what?
[19:44] <conorMcGregor9> now you have to say abra kadabra
[19:45] <Bashing-om> HoloIRCUser: We want to know that 1) "you" own your /home . in the terminal coomand ' ls -al /home ' You own the files and not 'root' ?? then we look at 2) .
[19:45] <HoloIRCUser> n334ly graphics card is an Intel GMA, runs find under mesa
[19:46] <HoloIRCUser> Or, rather, ran fine until today
[19:46] <treelzebub> ebernhar2son: i'd recommend installing Unity Tweak Tool. There's a Fonts tab, where you can Restore Defaults, or tweak as you like. to install: $ sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[19:47] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: does another user or the guest account work?
[19:48] <HoloIRCUser> k1l: guest account  has the same problem
[19:49] <HoloIRCUser> K1l: ah, no, it seems guest account works fine
[19:49] <conorMcGregor9> whats the problem? a black screen when u login your other account?
[19:49] <k1l> which desktop is it? and what ubuntu version exactly?
[19:50] <ebernhar2son> treelzebub: hmm, tried that but it didn't change the size of the fonts in titlebars, just inside that single application.  i'll try logging out to see if a reset makes any difference though
[19:50] <HoloIRCUser> conorMcGregor9: keeps login background, never progresses
[19:50] <k1l> so i would start with looking in the homefolder like Bashing-om told you to rule out the easy solutions.
[19:51] <HoloIRCUser> k1l: the default wm with default de, release is 14.04LTE, kernel is 3.16.0-41-generic
[19:51] <ebernhar1son> treelzebub: perhaps i'm doing something wrong, i logged out and logged back in and text scaling factor is back to 2.45
[19:51] <treelzebub> ebernhar2son: Sys Settings > Displays > "Scale for menu and title bars"
[19:51] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: so unity?
[19:51] <HoloIRCUser> K1l: sure.
[19:52] <regedit> Jordan_U: efibootmgr outputs "No BootOrder is set; firmware will attempt recovery"
[19:53] <regedit> Jordan_U: ls /sys/fs/pstore/ is empty
[19:54] <p5yc071c> Did the pastebins work?
[19:54] <HoloIRCUser> K1l: what am I looking for in the home directory? It has my files.
[19:54] <Jordan_U> regedit: What did happen when you booted with no drives plugged into the machine?
[19:54] <conorMcGregor9> did u paste the link?
[19:54] <p5yc071c> comorMcGregor9 - I had tried... here it is again:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11732272/
[19:54] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: "ls -al" so you see the owners. see if there is stuff that is owned by root
[19:54] <p5yc071c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11732269/
[19:54] <treelzebub> ebernhar1son: if tweak-tool and sys settings keep reverting when you logout/in, you can try this: $ gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Interface.app-fallback-to-maximum-scale-factor false
[19:55] <regedit> Jordan_U: nothing particularly interesting. i got the initial (bios?) boot menu which still had the option to boot "ubuntu" (which usually brings me to grub), except now it just didnt find the boot drive and carried on trying other boot devices
[19:55] <treelzebub> ebernhar1son: shit, sorry-- this: $ gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Interface app-fallback-to-maximum-scale-factor false
[19:55] <k1l> p5yc071c: you have a seperated /boot partition. so do a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" please in a pastebin
[19:55] <Jordan_U> regedit: And when all boot devices failed?
[19:55] <MichaelP> Runing kubuntu 15.04 installing ubuntu-deskto-next https://bpaste.net/show/312ba2efb8e0 .. can i make it ignore the blue tooth ?
[19:56] <regedit> Jordan_U: i think it just rebooted or something
[19:56] <regedit> reboot loop if i remember correctly
[19:56] <HoloIRCUser> K1l: in root shell, it hasn't done the mount rebind yet.
[19:56] <regedit> i can verify if it's important
[19:56] <ebernhar1son> treelzebub: excellent.  how do you find those values?  is there some sort of browser for all the settings that can be searched through?
[19:56] <p5yc071c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11732330/
[19:56] <Jordan_U> regedit: I'm not sure it's important, but I'm curious :)
[19:56] <regedit> oh :)
[19:57] <conorMcGregor9> open another shell Holo
[19:57] <HoloIRCUser> k1l: .. is owned by root, rest are owned by user
[19:57] <treelzebub> from ubuntu forums, i found some possible related bugs that led me to bugs.launchpad.net, and in the comments there was this solution. [src: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1310316]
[19:57] <Jordan_U> regedit: What was your original end goal in getting to the boot firmware menus? I seem to remember something about booting an OS that was installed for BIOS rather than UEFI?
[19:57] <HoloIRCUser> conormcgregor9: and then?
[19:57] <k1l> p5yc071c: you see the packages you got installed. so do a "sudo apt-get remove linux-image........ linux-image...." to remove the kernels not needed. but keep at least 2 different kernels installed
[19:58] <regedit> regedit: if i'm not mistaken both Windows and Ubuntu are currently UEFI installations
[19:58] <regedit> er Jordan_U ^
[19:58] <conorMcGregor9> HoloIRCUser, i thought u said your shell was working
[19:58] <regedit> Jordan_U: my goal is to mess with bios settings, like virtualization or intel rapid start / rapid storage etc
[19:58] <histo> regedit: did fwsetup work?
[19:58] <k1l> HoloIRCUser: ok, so maybe you need to reset the gnome settings.
[19:58] <HoloIRCUser> conormcgregor9: I have a root shell through recovery, yes. I want my wm to work after I log in with my user
[19:59] <regedit> histo: sadly not... grub said command not found
[19:59] <p5yc071c> kll - so...it doesn't matter which two that I keep?
[19:59] <p5yc071c> kll - or a better question - where do I go to learn about how to make that decision?
[19:59] <histo> regedit: what's the problem your having now? still can't get to fimrware?
[19:59] <regedit> histo: yep, inaccessible
[20:00] <regedit> the setup that is
[20:00] <HoloIRCUser> k1l: so delete the gnome-related files?
[20:00] <histo> regedit: did you try booting with the drive unplugged?
[20:00] <k1l> p5yc071c: i would say the latest one and then choose one that you like. if all worked just go for the second latest one. the second latest installed kernel is used for the recovery boot option in grub
[20:00] <regedit> histo: yup, nothing interesting was discovered there
[20:00] <histo> regedit: you still couldn't fn+f2?
[20:00] <conorMcGregor9> HoloIRCUser, do u have a lot of settings on your user?
[20:00] <Jordan_U> histo: No, fwsetup requires the ability to read and write to UEFI variables, and it looks like right now regedit's boot firmware is reporting that there are no UEFI variables at all whenever asked by an OS or bootloader (though clearly there is at least one, containing the boot entry for Ubuntu).
[20:00] <histo> regedit: and what do you mean by nothing interesting?
[20:00] <regedit> histo: correct, i couldnt..
[20:00] <HoloIRCUser> conormcgregor9: no
[20:00] <conorMcGregor9> and the guest account works?
[20:01] <HoloIRCUser> Yes
[20:01] <conorMcGregor9> just make a new account then and copy your files over
[20:01] <regedit> histo: system simply fails to find boot device, and power cycles
[20:01] <histo> regedit: does /sys/firmware/efi  directory exxist
[20:01] <regedit> histo: yes
[20:02] <histo> regedit: wth
[20:02] <moto_unix> Hi guys
[20:02] <regedit> config_table  efivars  fw_platform_size  fw_vendor  runtime  runtime-map  systab  vars
[20:02] <HoloIRCUser> Conormcgregor9: adduser is saying it can't lock /etc/passwd from within recovery
[20:02] <tgm4883> HoloIRCUser: you probably need to remount / rw
[20:02] <histo> regedit: you're kernel is booted in efi mode this is so odd.  So the firmware update that fixes the issue is still a no go?
[20:02] <histo> brb
[20:02] <regedit> histo: the installer fails...
[20:03] <HoloIRCUser> tgm4883: yep, thanks
[20:03] <Jordan_U> regedit: When you tried to upgrade the boot firmware, was that via a program that did the flashing from the OS, or was it something that put the new boot firmware image in the EFI System Partition for the boot firmware to flash itself at next boot? (Or do you not know?)
[20:04] <regedit> Jordan_U: some of the guides/tutorials were more this way, some were more that way
[20:04] <regedit> i tried several of them in various combinations
[20:05] <regedit> no wait, actually
[20:05] <regedit> the guides were mostly USB stick based
[20:05] <regedit> only the lenovo supplied update seemed to be trying to do it by direct flashing the boot firmware
[20:06] <regedit> let me show you the guides i was following
[20:07] <regedit> http://superuser.com/a/813623
[20:08] <regedit> actually i think that one was pretty much it, with some variations thereof
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> regedit: sounds like an issue for the ##hardware guys
[20:09] <tersio> I installed wine in my ubuntu, i was reading this        http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294119              how do I go to    c:/windows/system32       in wine?
[20:10] <tgm4883> tersio: IIRC, you should be able to launch windows explorer
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> !wine | tersio
[20:10] <harishkrupo> tersio, there is a directory called .wine in home search there
[20:11] <tgm4883> tersio: you could also go to ~/.wine/drive_c
[20:11] <tersio> how do I run wine in my ubuntu?
[20:11] <tersio> like to get a windows desktop
[20:11] <tgm4883> tersio: you dont
[20:11] <tgm4883> tersio: that isn't what wine is
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> tersio: you want a virtual machine windows?
[20:12] <conorMcGregor9> its for running windows applications
[20:12] <harishkrupo> tersio, for that you need to install windows
[20:12] <tersio> I see
[20:12] <conorMcGregor9> dont know why that bot is even in here
[20:12] <tersio> because here it points to some windows style directories
[20:12] <tersio> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294119
[20:12] <tgm4883> tersio: yes, and?
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> conorMcGregor9: what do you mean?
[20:13] <tersio> if I'm just executing a windows program through wine I won't have any of those dirs
[20:13] <conorMcGregor9> lotuspsychje, the ubottu bot that no one seems to read lol
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> conorMcGregor9: yeah its described fine indeed
[20:13] <tgm4883> tersio: when you installed wine, it also installed a windows explorer that would let you see a windows file structure
[20:14] <GitNick> Ok, so I tried to install something using apt-get, but then ran out of space, now I'm stuck, I can't continue. How can I undo this?
[20:14] <tgm4883> tersio: yes you would see that file structure if you were executing a windows program
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> tersio: maybe you can explain what you really want to do? wich windows program do you need?
[20:14] <tersio> how do I access that windows explorer?
[20:14] <harishkrupo> GitNick, remove that application
[20:14] <tgm4883> tersio: did you search unity for windows explorer?
[20:15] <sha1sum> I'm trying to wade through old and seemingly irrelevant search results... How do I simply switch the partition to boot from? I have all files copied and have changed the fstab, now not sure about the next step to get THAT parition to be the root partition
[20:15] <Jordan_U> regedit: Please pastebin the output of "find /sys/firmware/efi/".
[20:15] <tersio> I'm trying to play a wrf file, I found this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294119          so trying to do what it says there
[20:15] <GitNick> harishkrupo: I get an unmetdependencies error and no apt-get command will run
[20:15] <tgm4883> tersio: are you running unity?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> sha1sum: Do you have this new root partition mounted currently? If so, what is the mountpoint? If not, please mount it to /mnt/.
[20:16] <tersio> tgm4883: no
[20:16] <tgm4883> tersio: kde? xfce? help me out a little here
[20:16] <harishkrupo> GitNick, what about apt-get remove <package>
[20:16] <sha1sum> Jordan_U: I'm basically trying to switch two mountpoints that I accidentally reversed on installation: "/" and "/home"... I just simply rsync'd all files to both until I get the boot partition switched, so yeah they're both currently mounted but reversed
[20:17] <GitNick> harishkrupo: nope
[20:17] <tersio> oh you mean the ubuntu desktop? not sure, thought it was gnome? I'm on 14.04 default
[20:17] <sha1sum> (one is an SSD and one is a disk, so I obviously want the SSD as the root but didn't configure it that way)
[20:17] <conorMcGregor9> so unity
[20:17] <harishkrupo> GitNick, apt-get remove --purge <package>
[20:18] <tersio> yes I have the ubuntu file explorer but not a windows one
[20:18] <tgm4883> tersio: ok, did you bother searching for windows explorer or wine?
[20:18] <KowabungaDude^> Hello again
[20:18] <GitNick> harishkrupo:  All commands result in "E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)."
[20:18] <acz32> GitNick: it is telling you how to fix your problem. are you blind?
[20:18] <harishkrupo> GitNick, what about apt-get install -f
[20:18] <HoloIRCUser> After creating a new user and copying all files over, I'm no longer able to log in to my secondary user - I'm simply kicked back to login. This is an improvement - but how do I log in?
[20:18] <harishkrupo> acz32, no he is out of space
[20:19] <sha1sum> Jordan_U: so basically if I knew how to just tell the bootloader what the root partition was then I think I'd be fine because it's still using the disk as root instead of the SSD
[20:19] <Jordan_U> sha1sum: Have you done a lot since installing? If not, then the simplest and most reliable method would be to just re-install properly.
[20:19] <acz32> harishkrupo: that doesn't matter. it's telling him what to do
[20:19] <conorMcGregor9> HoloIRCUser, did it work before u copied your files over?
[20:19] <tersio> I have configure wine, uninstall wine, winetricks
[20:19] <harishkrupo> acz32, if he uses the command it will try to install but no space
[20:19] <HoloIRCUser> Sha1sum: grub2 menu.lst contains the grub instructions
[20:19] <GitNick> acz32: And what it tells me to do doesn't work (because I have no more space)
[20:19] <HoloIRCUser> conormcgregor9: yes
[20:20] <conorMcGregor9> must be some of the files in your home directory
[20:20] <acz32> GitNick: try creating enough free space to run the apt-get install -f
[20:20] <acz32> that should fix it
[20:20] <GitNick> acz32: (To answer your other question: No my sight is fine)
[20:20] <Jordan_U> sha1sum: Basically you want to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot , but having your new root currently mounted as /home/ is a little awkward, and again a re-install would be more reliable and simpler.
[20:20] <conorMcGregor9> how did u copy them over? a cp -r?
[20:20] <tgm4883> tersio: can you run 'winefile' from the command line?
[20:20] <HoloIRCUser> conormcgregor9: mount -o bind
[20:20] <GitNick> acz32: Tried that, cant
[20:20] <acz32> acz32: or do sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:20] <harishkrupo> GitNick, what is the output of df
[20:20] <tersio> tgm4883: yep, opened something
[20:21] <tgm4883> tersio: a file explorer?
[20:21] <tersio> yes, there I see a c:
[20:21] <sha1sum> Jordan_U: I didn't change the boot parition's location because it was already right, so I'm wondering if I simply edit stuff under /etc/grub.d/ and see if I can switch the root partition and it doesn't work then I guess re-installationn is the fallback... ?
[20:21] <HoloIRCUser> Conormcgregor9: if it were really a file, wouldn't these behave identically?
[20:21] <sha1sum> Jordan_U: (and run update-grub obviously)
[20:22] <GitNick> harishkrupo: https://gist.github.com/NickClark/1aa355aec9f96d4fbb09
[20:22] <conorMcGregor9> well if it worked before u copied any files over
[20:22] <conorMcGregor9> it must be a file
[20:22] <HoloIRCUser> sha1sum: changes need to written to mbr or uefi, run grub-install
[20:22] <tgm4883> tersio: ok, so you should be able to follow that post now
[20:22] <harishkrupo> sha1sum, how did you even boot if the disk is mounted as / ?
[20:22] <sha1sum> HoloIRCUser: isn't that old though? Also menu.lst is grub not grub2
[20:22] <tersio> tgm4883: ok thanks
[20:22] <HoloIRCUser> conormcgregor9: but there's also something else, because two users with identical home directories have different behavior
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> tersio: i think you best convert the wrf file into .mp4 with a converter, then play with vlc
[20:23] <HoloIRCUser> sha1sum: system still boots using grub
[20:23] <sha1sum> harishkrupo: all the files are present on both the drives (I just copied all files from each to the other) until I get it working... Then I edited the fstab on what *should be* the root
[20:23] <harishkrupo> GitNick, do apt-get autoclean
[20:23] <Jordan_U> sha1sum: Do *not* edit anything in /etc/grub.d/.
[20:23] <harishkrupo> sha1sum, then edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:24] <conorMcGregor9> what files are u copying, your own personal files?
[20:24] <conorMcGregor9> or hidden files in your home directory?
[20:24] <harishkrupo> sha1sum, point it to the right partition and then boot
[20:25] <harishkrupo> sha1sum after booting remove the boot directory from you home and run grub-install and update-grub2
[20:25] <harishkrupo> GitNick, it will clean some of the cached packages
[20:25] <Jordan_U> sha1sum: The guide that I linked you to will have you run update-grub within a chroot that's using your new root filesystem, so it will create a grub.cfg appropriate for your new configuration. You could also manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg once, then reboot and run "sudo update-grub" again once you're booted into the new configuration.
[20:26] <sha1sum> OK I appreciate everyone's help, I'm going to give this a try
[20:26] <TJ-> sha1sum: GRUB determines the root device based on the entries in '/etc/fstab' and specifically the UUID of the file-system. If you effectively swapped the file contents in those partitions then right now it sounds like your root partition in fstab points to the partition containing /home. If that is in fact the case simply swap the UUIDs around for those entries in fstab
[20:28] <GitNick> harishkrupo: Nothing. But I found a workaround (hopefully I didn't break something else) This whole problem was caused by an out of control devicemapper image. Finally figured out a way to clean it up.
[20:28] <harishkrupo> TJ-, grub does not determine the root device from fstab at boot it is passed as a parameter from grub.cfg
[20:28] <edoceo> I'm getting some dependency loop: policykit-1 depends on libpam-systemd; however: Package libpam-systemd:amd64 is not configured yet.
[20:29] <harishkrupo> GitNick, great :)
[20:29] <edoceo> I canno seem to apt-get install anything else now from these dependency problems, not sure how to resolve
[20:29] <sha1sum> TJ-: so right now /home/username/etc/fstab contains the *proper* configuration and /etc/fstab is the old configuration
[20:29] <TJ-> harishkrupo: You misunderstand. 'update-grub' reads fstab and writes the UUID of the root file-system into the entries in grub.cfg
[20:29] <sha1sum> Should I just replace any instance of the old UUID with the new one in grub.cfg?
[20:30] <regedit> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11732478/
[20:30] <harishkrupo> TJ-, ok got it :P
[20:30] <Jordan_U> TJ-: No, grub-mkconfig uses grub-probe to determine the UUID of the filesystem currently mounted as '/', it doesn't read the /etc/fstab.
[20:30] <sha1sum> TJ-: or sorry, /home/etc/fstab
[20:30] <ste_> hello - would anyone be able to help me with an issue I'm having when vsync'd games are running in a window and alt-tabbing in this situation is causing a 2-3 second delay before switching? Other windows are incredibly slow to drag around in this situation also, and it appears to be related to ubuntu only
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> ste_: ubuntu version and graphics card chipset?
[20:31] <locksmith2> hiiiii
[20:31] <ste_> ubuntu 15.04 and graphics card is gtx 770.. I have the recommended priopietary drivers installed but it happens on other drivers too
[20:32] <sha1sum> actually I'm going to run the chroot route I think, this grub.cfg file is scary lol
[20:32] <Jordan_U> sha1sum: That would probably do it. Of course you should make a backup copy of the grub.cfg first, and once you are booted in the configuration you want re-run "sudo update-grub" to make sure that you have a proper grub.cfg, rather than just one that happened to work once.
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> ste_: did you have same issue on 14.04?
[20:32] <harishkrupo> sha1sum no just go to the line which starts with linux and then paste the correct uuid
[20:33] <ste_> I couldn't say.. but I don't have this issue in linux mint
[20:34] <histo> regedit: I'm out of ideas to try. Other than verifying the  downloaded firmware update is correct
[20:34] <sha1sum> Jordan_U: well I also noticed that along with the UUID references there are drive and partition number indicators so I don't really want to mess around with all that because they're separate physical devices.
[20:34] <TJ-> sha1sum: As long as you can perform 1 successful *Recovery mode* boot (to root shell) by manually editing the "linux ..." root device entry from the grub boot-time editor to specify the correct root file-system you will then be able to correct the entries in fstab and use update-grub to fix the boot entries for subsequent boots
[20:35] <Jordan_U> sha1sum: Those are only used as hints to make searching faster, grub never depends on them and so their values aren't important. (At worst, boot will be ever so slightly slower).
[20:35] <regedit> histo: well it seems so http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/ideapad-u-series-laptops/ideapad-u410/downloads/DS033646
[20:36] <histo> regedit: be nice if they provided a checksum
[20:37] <lisbeth> hey so I am in ubuntu 14.04 installing it alongside windows 7
[20:37] <lisbeth> only I didn't like the partition sizes it recommended and want to partition myself
[20:37] <Jordan_U> regedit: Please file a bug report about this. It's clearly a boot firmware bug, but just like the Samsung bricking bug, we may want to try to avoid users hitting it if we can on our end.
[20:37] <lisbeth> I a in gparted and I changed the ntfs partition down to 989617 mb
[20:37] <lisbeth> *I am
[20:37] <histo> Jordan_U: I thihnk it's more of a hardware bug than a bug with ubuntu or grub
[20:37] <lisbeth> and I am wondering if this operation will erase the ntfs partition?
[20:37] <petrvs> lisbeth: no, but it's not 100% guaranteed safe
[20:38] <petrvs> lisbeth: more like 90%
[20:38] <histo> Jordan_U: the manufacturer has released a fix for his problem. But he can't install it also
[20:38] <lisbeth> what can happen in the 10%
[20:38] <regedit> Jordan_U: how so? what is the ubuntu-end of the bug here
[20:38] <petrvs> lisbeth: loss of data
[20:38] <tgm4883> lisbeth: personally I'd resize the ntfs partition from inside windows
[20:38] <Jordan_U> histo: It's definitely a hardware bug, but so is the samsung bricking bug I mentioned. There is now code in the linux kernel to prevent hitting that bug, as there should be.
[20:38] <petrvs> there's no guarantee from any OS
[20:38] <petrvs> you need to backup data you care about before resizing a partition
[20:39] <tgm4883> petrvs: yes, that is true.
[20:39] <histo> Jordan_U: windows hit the bug not linux btw
[20:39] <petrvs> or embrace the possibility of starting from scratch :)
[20:39] <Jordan_U> regedit: What event initially triggered the bug, if that was easily identifiable?
[20:39] <histo> lisbeth: anytime you are resizing partitions/filesystems you really should backup your essential data first.
[20:40] <lisbeth> What if I said I am 100% sure that the disc is not filled past the point that I am resizing it to?
[20:40] <histo> Jordan_U: what i'm wondering is why fwsetup won't work for him
[20:40] <petrvs> lisbeth: that's not really the issue, although it's obviously another concern
[20:40] <charlytavu> Hi everybody, can someone tell me if there is a possibility to add a script at boot time on a live USB ?
[20:40] <lisbeth> also I am trying to access the files from the live cd so I can back them up and it is not letting me because it says I don't have permission
[20:40] <petrvs> charlytavu: anything is possible in software
[20:40] <lisbeth> I was under the impression that I was root when using a live disc
[20:40] <petrvs> lisbeth: you are
[20:40] <petrvs> lisbeth: what command are you using?
[20:40] <histo> lisbeth: what don't you stop.  Mount the disk read only check how much free space is available and see
[20:41] <regedit> Jordan_U: unfortunately i wasnt expecting this issue (duh) so i dndt pay attention as to when exactly it started happening. all I know is that before installing the 2 OSs i could access BIOS, and after they were installed i couldnt anymore
[20:41] <histo> charlytavu: live usb of what?  the ubuntu installer?
[20:41] <regedit> Jordan_U: and there was a new boot menu option "ubuntu" that didnt used to be there
[20:41] <charlytavu> petrvs, without rebuilding source iso, is it possible ? i've looked at syslinux options but found nothing :/
[20:41] <regedit> Jordan_U: and the other boot menu option "setup" disappeared
[20:42] <Jordan_U> charlytavu: What is your end goal?
[20:42] <lisbeth> nevermind I am installing ubutnu on a usb
[20:43] <petrvs> charlytavu: sure, the ease with which you can accomplish it depends on the image
[20:43] <histo> regedit: can you get to the grub menu?
[20:43] <charlytavu> Jordan_U, histo I'm just trying to execute a script at boot time without rebuilding the iso :)
[20:43] <Jordan_U> regedit: Then that sounds like it's at leat possible that installing Ubuntu triggered the bug in your firmware.
[20:43] <regedit> i probably should have mentioned this earlier; in the list of devices to boot from (upon power on boot menu) the top one is simply "ubuntu". further down the list is the actual drive that has the 2 OSs, and if boot to it i get straight windows (not grub)
[20:43] <Jordan_U> charlytavu: That's not an end goal. What does the script do? What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[20:43] <histo> charlytavu: what does the script do?
[20:43] <charlytavu> changing keymaps, mounting filesystems, etc.. basic configuration
[20:44] <regedit> histo: yep no prob
[20:44] <histo> regedit: So what happens on the grub command line when you type fwsetup
[20:44] <regedit> histo: no such command error
[20:44] <regedit> histo: even after insmod efifwsetup
[20:44] <sha1sum> mmmmk so chrooting into the partition with the proper fstab and running "grub-install" produced a "could not find EFI directory". update-grub2 worked, however, but the system still boots with the wrong partition mount points
[20:45] <lisbeth> so I am installing it in gparted on a usb and It is not showing me the partitions for /dev/sdb
[20:45] <charlytavu> histo, Jordan_U changing keymaps, mounting filesystems, etc.. basic configuration
[20:45] <Jordan_U> sha1sum: You need to mount your EFI System Partition to /boot/efi/ within the chroot.
[20:45] <sha1sum> ahhhh that makes so much sense.
[20:45] <sha1sum> lol
[20:45] <histo> regedit: what version of grub are you running?
[20:46] <sha1sum> OK well it's almost 5:00 here so I'll act like you didn't tell me that until the morning :P
[20:46] <regedit> an important thing i'm trying to figure out is: If I delete the GPT partition and install a legacy msdos/MBR windows installation, will access to bios be restored?
[20:46] <regedit> histo: can i check from within ubuntu?
[20:46] <sha1sum> Jordan_U: can I mount it before chrooting or no?
[20:46] <sha1sum> or does it matter?
[20:46] <Jordan_U> regedit: Please run "sudo modprobe -r efivars && umount /sys/firmware/efi/efivars && modprobe -r efivarfs && modprobe efivarfs && mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars"  (as per https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Inconsistency_between_efivarfs_and_sysfs-efivars ) and pastebin the output of "find /sys/firmware/efi/" again.
[20:47] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[20:47] <Jordan_U> sha1sum: It doesn't matter when it's mounted, as long as it's mounted before you run grub-install.
[20:48] <sha1sum> Jordan_U: well I'm going to mount a barstool and saddle up to a brew next. I appreciate all of your help!
[20:48] <sha1sum> That goes for everyone else also :)
[20:48] <histo> regedit: dpkg -l | grep grub
[20:48] <regedit> Jordan_U: the first command in that series emits "modprobe: FATAL: Module efivars is builtin."
[20:48] <histo> regedit: disregard the fwsetup patch has been in there since ubuntu 12.04
[20:49] <regedit> histo: ok, yes this is kubuntu 15.04
[20:49] <Jordan_U> regedit: OK, never mind that then :) It's probably safe to assume that no variables would be visible via efivarfs either.
[20:50] <regedit> Jordan_U / histo: would you know about ^ (re. "important thing i'm trying to figure out")
[20:51] <histo> regedit: sudo efibootmgr | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:51] <regedit> histo: that command rings a bell... i've done it before, leme check again
[20:52] <macksting> I'm trying to run a visualization that's got native builds for Mac 10.7 and WinXP. OpenGL3. Am I better off using Wine, or using a Macintosh emulator?
[20:52] <Jordan_U> regedit: My guess would be no, but it can't hurt to try. You shouldn't need a full BIOS Based Windows installation to try, simply having grub-pc on an msdos labeled drive with a single partition containing a boot flag would probably be enough.
[20:52] <regedit> histo: http://termbin.com/9ag3
[20:53] <Jordan_U> regedit: If you file a bug report it's also a good way to get the attention of people who might be familiar with these types of problems, and it will also serve as a place for others having this problem to find information when google searching.
[20:53] <regedit> Jordan_U: hm ok
[20:54] <regedit> Jordan_U: being rather new to a lot of the concepts issues here, would we be able to write the bug description jointly so you can help me formulate the right & succinct details?
[20:54] <freeone3000> After switching users, it seems like Chrome no longer recognizes my keyboard. As is obvious, other applications seem to work fine. What could cause this?
[20:55] <Jordan_U> regedit: Yes.
[20:55] <regedit> Jordan_U: how can we do this, something like collabedit.com/new ?
[20:55] <Jordan_U> regedit: Sure.
[20:55] <regedit> Jordan_U: ok i'll PM you the link...
[20:56] <histo> macksting: I'd try in wine first if all else fails you can get a vm running
[20:56] <freeone3000> Sorry. It appears GNOME applications no longer recognize my keyboard. Opera, Firefox, Chrome, gcalc were tested. Terminal is fine, KDE applications are fine.
[20:56] <macksting> Is there a way to get a VM for this without spending money or violating the law?
[21:00] <Jordan_U> macksting: Something written for XP and openGL has a fair chance of working in wine, perfectly legally. Zero chance of getting a MacOS binary running without OSX, and no legal way to run Windows in a VM without paying for it.
[21:01] <macksting> Jordan_U: Pity. Seems Wine didn't cut it. There's no Macintosh equivalent?
[21:03] <freeone3000> (Please note that Windows VM licenses are not the same as Windows bare metal licenses - certain licenses, such as "Windows Home", cannot be virtualized legally.)
[21:04] <macksting> Noted.
[21:06] <Stevenmcqueeven> hello
[21:06] <Jordan_U> macksting: Have you checked the wine appdb? Have you tried asking about your problem (including relevant output and error messages) in #winehq?
[21:07] <macksting> Jordan_U: Haven't yet. Figured I'd explore what options are available before I commit to problem-solving.
[21:08] <HoloPed> is there a simple guide to use systemd ?
[21:08] <HoloPed> I'm totaly lost
[21:09] <HoloPed> trying to run a script on startup has never been so complex
[21:10] <jootor> I am getting this message when I want to open a partition i created, I was able to enter the partition in the past but now i get this message:'' could not display all the contents found.000':input/output error ''
[21:13] <TJ-> regedit: Have you tried the Lenovo bootable USB UEFI diagnostics toolkit?
[21:13] <Jordan_U> jooncheol: Please pastebin the output of "mount".
[21:14] <macksting> Jordan_U: Though no, this program isn't on the appdb.
[21:15] <Stevenmcqueeven> I have a noob question that you guys probably hate
[21:15] <Stevenmcqueeven> what are some cool things I can do in linux that a beginner can do
[21:18] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Do you mind helping write a bug report description for regedit?
[21:18] <OerHeks> Stevenmcqueeven, i started with cronjobs and writing a conky script, 1001 examples http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2312
[21:19] <Stevenmcqueeven> what do conky scripts do?
[21:19] <histo> Stevenmcqueeven: cool how?
[21:19] <regedit> TJ-: no, that sounds very interesting, how do you find all these things! :)
[21:19] <histo> !manual | Stevenmcqueeven
[21:19] <regedit> TJ-: can i PM you a link to a bug me and Jordan_U are writing
[21:20] <TJ-> regedit: see http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds030861
[21:21] <histo> Don't even see his model supported there
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Stevenmcqueeven: run "bb".
[21:21] <Jordan_U> !info bb | Stevenmcqueeven
[21:22] <ImJune> ha ubuntu 15.04 found my card and installed drivers perfectly
[21:22] <regedit> TJ-: interesting that IdeaPad is not listed there
[21:22] <ImJune> 14.04 needs to dissappear
[21:22] <Stevenmcqueeven> histo just things I couldn't quite do with windows or to make things easier for me
[21:23] <histo> Stevenmcqueeven: learn about bash and command line interface.
[21:24] <histo> Stevenmcqueeven: that manual page I sent you has a section on the terminal etc...
[21:24] <Stevenmcqueeven> Awesome thanks I'll take a look
[21:24] <histo> Stevenmcqueeven: it should also answer your questions in the learning more section
[21:25] <acz32> is there any way to have okular not show page thumbnails when i open a pdf?
[21:25] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys i have the iso disk image on usb flash stick . do i need to extracxt it first for it to boot from flash ?
[21:25] <ImJune> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[21:26] <ImJune> this is fouled up
[21:26] <kingeR> Hi, I am looking at these VPS with ubuntu, what kind of access do i get there, how does it look like?
[21:26] <histo> JohnDoe1972: you don't just copy the iso to the thumb drive to boot it. YOu need to write it's contents to the drive
[21:27] <histo> JohnDoe1972: what is the iso of and what operating system are you currently using?
[21:27] <rypervenche> kingeR: If you purchase a VPS with Ubuntu on it, you will likely get root access to the command line.
[21:27] <petrvs> JohnDoe1972: try using http://unetbootin.sf.net/
[21:27] <JohnDoe1972> 14.4 kylie 64 bit
[21:27] <histo> kingeR: full access to the box typically
[21:28] <kingeR> ok, and how will upload stuff, cause i see there is no cpanel for it
[21:28] <Jordan_U> JohnDoe1972: You have two primary options. The most commonly done is to use Ubuntu startup disk creator or Unetbootin, which will extract the iso for you. If for some reason you really don't want the iso extracted, you can install grub to the USB drive and use it to loop boot the iso: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[21:28] <histo> kingeR: manage it using ssh or their provided inteface
[21:28] <histo> !usb | JohnDoe1972
[21:29] <kingeR> histo, I was never much of command line guy, is that too hard to learn. I mean, I know quite a lot stuff on command line, but not it
[21:29] <JohnDoe1972> :/ ok info overload but thx guys
[21:30] <Jordan_U> HoloPed: You can still add a script to the end of /etc/rc.local if you really just want it to run at boot.
[21:30] <histo> kingeR: Why do you want a VPS?
[21:30] <rypervenche> kingeR: If you want something with cPanel, you will need to purchase a VPS with cPanel installed on it. cPanel is not free, so you will likely have to pay extra for the license fee. You can learn how to use SFTP to upload and download files on a server without cPanel.
[21:31] <kingeR> histo: I have bih website, with over 20k articles, and over 1gb of files. rypervenche: I know that, I just asked if it is hard :D
[21:32] <histo> kingeR: I would get a vps that is already setup for hosting if you are not familar with setting it up yourself. Unless you want to learn.
[21:32] <rypervenche> kingeR: "hard" is subjective. I don't think it is hard at all. You just need to learn how to do it.
[21:32] <Jordan_U> HoloPed: If you want to make a proper systemd service file, http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html is a good guide.
[21:33] <rypervenche> kingeR: Personally I would never recommend using anything like cPanel. Minimal is usually better in my experience. Only what you need and nothing else. But it all depends on what your needs are and what you are willing to learn and forgo.
[21:33] <kingeR> histo: I want to learn, that's why I am buying it one month earlier then i need it.
[21:33] <regedit> TJ-: sent you the link in PM
[21:33] <macksting> Jordan_U: So yeah, I just looked the matter up, and while it seems there's efforts at a Wine-like Mac environment called Darling, it sounds like there's a lot of work to be done. Anything else seems to require a copy of the OS. I'll go ask in #winehq, since this is firmly a Wine problem at this juncture.
[21:33] <macksting> Jordan_U and histo: Thanks for helping where you could.
[21:33] <Jordan_U> macksting: You're welcome.
[21:33] <TJ-> regedit: sorry, been busy. I've discovered something that might indicate a way to flash at boot-time.
[21:33] <mcphail> kingeR: if you want to upload/download using ssh/sftp, you can do it directly from the ubuntu GUI. Really couldn't be simpler
[21:34] <regedit> TJ-: no apology necessary man :) sounds interesting! please do share
[21:34] <kingeR> rypervenche: I had my fear share with cpanel, f***ing hate it. whenever there is problem have to wait for three days for someone from tech support
[21:34] <histo> kingeR: digital ocean has some great setup tutorials.  BUt you will need to familiarize yourself with the command line at some point.
[21:34] <TJ-> regedit: Reading some Phoenix SCT documentation for engineers... one phrase jumps out at me: "Phoenix SCT allows Capsule to be stored in the disk GPT partition, rather than in flash RAM, for native restart support."
[21:34] <kingeR> mcphail: thank you, i wasn't sure. I only used ssh for communication from my phone to laptop
[21:35] <TJ-> regedit: source (see page 2, "Non-Volatile Capsule"): http://www.embedded-tools.de/sites/default/files/Phoenix_SecureCore-Mobile.pdf
[21:35] <mcphail> kingeR: it _is_ worth learning some command line stuff, though. Makes life very simple indeed when you get the hang of it
[21:36] <regedit> TJ-: ok so, how would i do that?
[21:37] <Hasov> Hello
[21:37] <Hasov> Anyone from PL?
[21:37] <petrvs> /msg alis list *ubunt*pl
[21:38] <varenik> hi
[21:38] <petrvs> hi
[21:38] <TJ-> regedit: I'm guessing the .cap file is put in the root of the ESP file-system, probably with a special name which I'm trying to discover now. I'm reverse-engineering the .CAP image we have
[21:39] <TJ-> regedit: here's the API, "UpdateCapsule()" in particular is interesting
[21:39] <KowabungaDude^> Need help with rndis networking in Ubuntu 14.04: I have two networking USB rndis devices. When I connect Device1 to the linux laptop an interface eth3 get's created and the device servers dhcp to the laptop. If I unplug Device1 and plug Device2 the same behaviour is observed. If I try to plug both devices, the last one to be connected the interface gets named "rename22", it's down and has no...
[21:39] <KowabungaDude^> ...ip. If I modify /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (http://www.pastebin.ca/3030308) to add another rule similar to the last one it works the first time connected but not afterwards
[21:39] <TJ-> regedit: see http://wiki.phoenix.com/wiki/index.php/EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES
[21:40] <regedit> TJ-: holy moly they have a wiki for this stuff! now that's what i'm talking about
[21:41] <ImJune> does anyone know of some issues with skype launching on ubuntu 15.04
[21:41] <varenik> cool! What it is the chat?
[21:42] <Hasov> Hello who can help me?
[21:42] <TJ-> regedit: see http://wiki.phoenix.com/wiki/index.php/Boot_Mode
[21:42] <acz32> ImJune: no but check out some superior alternatives: firefox hello or utox
[21:42] <JohnDoe1972> guys could i just mount the iso using deamon lite then copy or extract the files to usb ?
[21:43] <Bashing-om> _KaszpiR_: IF the help is ubuntu related, maybe, ask and see ?
[21:43] <histo> JohnDoe1972: What operating system are you running?
[21:43] <JohnDoe1972> 7
[21:43] <ImJune> advertise much
[21:43] <histo> JohnDoe1972: use win32 disk imager to write the iso to your usb drive
[21:43] <JohnDoe1972> on desktop
[21:43] <ImJune> because I don't have work contacts on skype or anything
[21:43] <JohnDoe1972> whats wrong with demon line ?
[21:43] <histo> JohnDoe1972: http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
[21:43] <acz32> ImJune: you consider my recommendation an advertisement? ok...
[21:43] <histo> JohnDoe1972: demon line?
[21:44] <acz32> good luck with your microsoft software issue
[21:44] <JohnDoe1972> k thx histo but .. deaone lite
[21:44] <histo> JohnDoe1972: I have no idea what deaone lite is
[21:44] <JohnDoe1972> daemon tools lite
[21:44] <ImJune> you are a moron I know that much
[21:44] <ImJune> like I am trying to install skype for my personal pleasure
[21:45] <TJ-> regedit: Mmmmm! http://wiki.phoenix.com/wiki/index.php/Crisis_Recovery
[21:45] <Jordan_U> ImJune: Please treat people in this channel with respoect.
[21:45] <JohnDoe1972> :)
[21:45] <Hasov> Who can help me with Ubuntu Server 14.04.2 LTS?
[21:45] <histo> ImJune: Are you experiencing a problem with skype?
[21:45] <ImJune> yeah
[21:46] <ImJune> when I sign in it doesn't proceed
[21:46] <ImJune> at all
[21:46] <ImJune> something is broken
[21:46] <Hasov> Hello :v
[21:46] <ubuntu233> Hasov: Share the issue with the channel for help.
[21:46] <ImJune> I will have to skype my coworkers from my phone
[21:46] <histo> ImJune: Perhaps you should have started there. How did you install skype?
[21:46] <ImJune> via the command line
[21:46] <ImJune> sudo apt-get install skype
[21:46] <acz32> ImJune: you're the moron for getting so offended by a recommendation
[21:47] <Hasov> I need a first guide for newbies, i migrated from EL and i want to learn how to use Ubuntu :c
[21:47] <ImJune> you are on ignore
[21:47] <Bashing-om> Hasov: State your issue for the channel .
[21:47] <histo> JohnDoe1972: just use win32 disk imager to write the iso the the drive. It will write the filesystem and everything there.  All data on the drive you are writing to will be lost so backup anything before hand.
[21:47] <Hasov> I know how to use apt-get etc.
[21:47] <KowabungaDude^> Anyone who cold help me with rndis networking in Ubuntu 14.04? I have two networking USB rndis devices. When I connect Device1 to the linux laptop an interface eth3 get's created and the device servers dhcp to the laptop. If I unplug Device1 and plug Device2 the same behaviour is observed. If I try to plug both devices, the last one to be connected the interface gets named "rename22", it's...
[21:47] <JohnDoe1972> !win32diskimager
[21:47] <KowabungaDude^> ...down and has no ip. If I modify /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (http://www.pastebin.ca/3030308) to add another rule similar to the last one it works the first time connected but not afterwards
[21:48] <JohnDoe1972> !win32 disk imager
[21:48] <regedit> TJ-: so it probably keeps recovering the old bios huh?
[21:48] <KowabungaDude^> I don't know much about USB or what to look for
[21:48] <JohnDoe1972> histo, link ?
[21:48] <histo> JohnDoe1972: http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
[21:49] <JohnDoe1972> also will the fact that im on 64 bit upset the 32bit install of my iso >?
[21:49] <kingeR> mcphail: I agree. I am PHP developer, good at Java, medium at C and Assembly... but never got myself around cmmand line
[21:49] <Jordan_U> KowabungaDude^: What do you mean by "rndis"?
[21:49] <histo> Jordan_U: no, but is there a reaosn you aren't using a 64bit iso?
[21:50] <histo> JohnDoe1972: ^^^
[21:50] <histo> Jordan_U: sorry
[21:50] <TJ-> regedit: I think we have a procedure! https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-FLASHING-LAPTOP-DELL-INSPIRON-5323-13Z?pid=55511#pid55511
[21:50] <histo> JohnDoe1972: It won't affect it but why not use the 64bit iso?
[21:51] <histo> s/affect/effect/
[21:51] <JohnDoe1972> its going onto a 32bit laptop
[21:51] <histo> JohnDoe1972: ahh you'll be fine then.
[21:51] <TJ-> regedit: wimbios has a/the crisis tool: https://www.bios-mods.com/bios-recovery/phoenix-bios-recovery/
[21:51] <tgm4883> JohnDoe1972: geez, that must be an old laptop
[21:51] <JohnDoe1972> win32 bit disk manager dosnet install on 64 bit ! :(
[21:52] <KowabungaDude^> Jordan_U: RNDIS is the USB driver developed by Microsoft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNDIS
[21:52] <histo> JohnDoe1972: it's a standalone program from what I remember
[21:52] <JohnDoe1972> tgm4883, yess sir
[21:52] <mcphail> kingeR: worth having a trawl through the debian-administration.org archives. Not quite Ubuntu, (and a bit out of date), but a well-written resource. The sit owner works at Bytemark Hosting if you're looking for a VPS provider
[21:52] <Trudko> hi guys I've installed elementary os(based on 14.04 ubuntu) along side with windows but I cant load Windows anymore because of 0xc000000098 error. I ve tried boot-repair but it didnt help this is info from boot repair http://paste2.org/dp1FPLDb
[21:52] <tgm4883> !elementary
[21:53] <histo> JohnDoe1972: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[21:53] <kingeR> mcphail: I am reseller myself, and i have decent prices, so I will buy it at my own website
[21:54] <mcphail> kingeR: fair enough :) - I have no connection or conflict of interest but know Steve is very helpful
[21:54] <regedit> TJ-: sounds exciting! reading...
[21:54] <TJ-> regedit: I'm checking the 'phlash' tools now to see if the filename they look for is "BIOS.cap" or something else
[21:55] <regedit> TJ-: wait, this is pretty much this solution http://superuser.com/a/813623
[21:55] <regedit> TJ-: with a tiny bit of new variation to try
[21:55] <JohnDoe1972> ive got it with deamon tools lite
[21:55] <regedit> TJ-: and maybe we just need to find the right file name
[21:56] <Trudko> tgm4883: well this is universal problem
[21:56] <histo> JohnDoe1972: you've got what?
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Trudko: This channel only supports Ubuntu, period.
[21:57] <kingeR> mcphail: thank you for that. even i didn't start this to earn, just to save money on my own projects :D
[21:57] <TJ-> regedit: That tool I linked you to, I think that is only legacy BIOS from examining it. We need to find a more recent version that support UEFI
[21:58] <Trudko> ...
[21:59] <regedit> TJ-: oh... is it the same as the one posted on the superuser (mediafire download) link? ^
[21:59] <victor-> is it possible that apparmor is preventing a www-data user to read a directory called 'etc' ?
[21:59] <stevendale> Hey I have a question
[21:59] <ubuntu233> Trudko: That is a bad install, look up uefi, fix windows remove and elementary. I would install ubuntu as in this specific area support is great.
[21:59] <nando293921> ...?
[22:00] <JohnDoe1972> ok guys why is a usb stick being recognised on a 32 bit laptop, and a 64 bit desktop but not on a different 32bit laptop ?
[22:00] <Trudko> ubuntu233: how does removing elementary help me ?
[22:00] <ubuntu233> Trudko: sorry fix winds and remove elementary was the corrrect syntax
[22:00] <stevendale> Does Ubuntu default to using the Ethernet connection even if there’s a Wi-Fi connection, or does it default to the Wi-Fi connection even when there’s an Ethernet connection?
[22:00] <TJ-> regedit: It's worth installing that tool onto a USB and following the boot instructions to see if 1) it'll boot to the flasher and 2) the flasher can recognise how to talk to the host (it would report the discovered FLASH chip types)
[22:01] <TJ-> regedit: if that works then it's worth pursuing, if not, you don't waste time on it
[22:01] <mcphail> stevendale: defaults to a wire if it is plugged in
[22:01] <stevendale> mcphail: Thanks, :) I’ll be going now
[22:01] <ubuntu233> Trudko: It is a bad install, not worth fixing, that is a msdos install ona uefi setup.
[22:03] <ubuntu233> Trudko: As far as I can tell, however, none of this is support, just a comment.
[22:03] <regedit> TJ-: sure i'll try that one again why not
[22:03] <Johnny_Linux> GiterDooooooone!
[22:03] <Jordan_U> regedit: When you do get to filing a bug report, do so by running "ubuntu-bug grub-efi-amd64".
[22:03] <regedit> TJ-: i tried loading the capsule into some "andy" or other Bios-Mods.com tool, it complained that the file was incorrect size or something...
[22:04] <regedit> Jordan_U: ok cool, though i'd really love to hear TJ-'s input on it first
[22:05] <histo> JohnDoe1972: What do you mean recognized?  Like when you plug it in?  or are you trying to boot to it on each machine?
[22:05] <regedit> EriC^^: heya, you there?
[22:06] <JohnDoe1972> histo when i tryed to acces the usb on the laptop i wish to install it , it says it need s to be formatted ! however on other pc's it can be opened without difficulty
[22:07] <gambl0re> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. how do i fix this?
[22:07] <JohnDoe1972> when i try to boot the laptop from usb it just loads windows even though i have the usb key at hte top of the boot order
[22:08] <JohnDoe1972> what file system should be on the usb ?
[22:08] <Trudko> ubuntu233: nvm thanks for your time. I think I look around or just get windows repair drive somehow
[22:08] <JohnDoe1972> fat32 or exfat ?
[22:08] <histo> JohnDoe1972: how'd you put the files there?
[22:08] <ubuntu233> gambl0re: The channel likes pastebinned info, show it all with the commands
[22:08] <histo> JohnDoe1972: I told you your method wouldn't work please use the link I provided you.
[22:08] <histo> JohnDoe1972: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[22:08] <JohnDoe1972> i mounted the iso then opened a folder to view files,. then copied them to usb
[22:09] <ubuntu233> !pastebin | gambl0re
[22:09] <histo> JohnDoe1972: that won't work use the link I just gave you.
[22:09] <JohnDoe1972> k
[22:10] <TJ-> regedit: Got it! Found the instructions for how to configure a UEFI ESP in order to flash an update! see https://github.com/antonizoon/archivis.me/wiki/Phoenix-UEFI-BIOS-Crisis-Recovery
[22:11] <Jordan_U> TJ-: regedit: I'm leaving for the day, but when you do file a bug report please subscribe me to it (JordanU on launchpad.net).
[22:11] <regedit> TJ-: you are impossibly tenacious and resourceful
[22:11] <ubuntu233> Trudko: Looks like W8, it has built in reloads of the OS with the data saved or a fresh install.
[22:11] <regedit> Jordan_U: will do, thanks muchly for the help!
[22:11] <TJ-> regedit: UEFI looks on boot media for a script to run, rather like MS-DOS used to look for autoexec.bat. In this case for UEFI the standard mandates a file named startup.nsh instead. In that (text) file you put one line that calls the firmware's flashing EFI module with the path to the new firmware image
[22:11] <Jordan_U> regedit: You're welcome :)
[22:12] <jonubuntu> Tried installing Ubuntu with a usb drive yesterday, but it kept putting the boot stuff on the thumb drive instead of the server HD. Anyone know how to work around this? Maybe I should use a different USB mount software?
[22:13] <regedit> TJ-: ok hang on so, what are the actual steps to take here please?
[22:13] <gambl0re> this is the error message https://gist.github.com/crazyboy867/6cf65f215191760864d4
[22:13] <jonubuntu> was using universal usb installer
[22:13] <gambl0re> pplease help guys thanks
[22:13] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Which reminds me, if that fails we may be able to load UEFI shell from grub and do interesting things from there.
[22:13] <gambl0re> what is this broken packages they are talking about?
[22:14] <JohnDoe1972> hiso whats persistance ? is it like a cache limit ?
[22:14] <ubuntu233> jonubuntu: It must ask where grub goes or have an area this is chosen, you can easily put grub where you want it after an install.
[22:15] <k1l> gambl0re: any PPAs involved? or other packages manually installed?
[22:15] <TJ-> regedit: OK, I got over-excited there! The key files may not be built-in modules, and may not be publicly available (easily) but I'm digging. See the Phoenix documentation on their ShellFlash: http://www.aures-support.fr/DATA/drivers/YUNO-%20Driver/ShellFlash_SCT_UG_v1.5.29.pdf?dl=0
[22:15] <TJ-> regedit: For now I suggest you just collect and save all these URLs and save the pages locally for reference :)
[22:15] <jonubuntu> @ubuntu233 During the final part where it does the grub install do I say "No"? Will it let me choose the drive then? The text says it uses the first drive by default.
[22:15] <DAnCoor> May I ask... I just upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 and noticed I haven't one single row in /var/log/syslog ever since... anyone know if log has been discontinued?
[22:15] <gambl0re> i installed many thins
[22:15] <gambl0re> npm, nodejs, ember-cli
[22:16] <jonubuntu> I've never moved the grub install location before
[22:16] <k1l> gambl0re: try to run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:16] <regedit> TJ-: where can i get this shellflash utility?
[22:16] <gambl0re> ok
[22:16] <k1l> gambl0re: so that is all 3rd party stuff?
[22:16] <TJ-> regedit: OK, found public files for you: ftp://ftp.icg.eu/Drivers/BeatlePOS/D2550/BiosTool/Phoenix/EFI_Shell/Release/v1.5.66.0/
[22:16] <gambl0re> yea
[22:16] <TJ-> regedit: We might have everything you need now
[22:17] <TJ-> regedit: I need coffee... be back soon
[22:17] <k1l> gambl0re: well, than it might be that its just rubbish put together from the guy who did that 3rd party packages.
[22:17] <kostkon> DAnCoor, obviously it hasn't
[22:17] <ubuntu233> jonubuntu: Use tab tab to complete nicks, I don't know what download you're using, however any install has this option, so yes sounds like you follow the text.
[22:17] <gambl0re> it worked before...
[22:18] <gambl0re> i installed nodejs and npm using apt-get
[22:18] <gambl0re> then i uninstalled apt-get and then nodejs
[22:18] <regedit> TJ-: enjoy! le'me know when you're back what happens next, i got the files
[22:18] <gambl0re> then i was able to reinstall nodejs but not npm
[22:18] <drewx0r> DAnCoor, this is the only relevant thing i could find
[22:18] <drewx0r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2278206
[22:18] <k1l> uninstalled apt-get?
[22:18] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys can someone explain the linux live usb creator step 3 : Persistance ?
[22:18] <gambl0re> uninstalled npm and nodejs
[22:18] <gambl0re> using aptget
[22:19] <gambl0re> its gonna take 6 hours to for dist-upgrade?
[22:19] <DAnCoor> drewx0r: thank you, well... need to search why it's gone then... :-)
[22:19] <k1l> gambl0re: and npm is from a 3rd party manual install?
[22:19] <k1l> gambl0re: well, run the dist-upgrade first. that will bring you all the needed updates
[22:19] <gambl0re> you could have told me that dist-upgrade is gonna take 6 hours
[22:20] <gambl0re> i already ran the apt-get update
[22:20] <k1l> gambl0re: i could not have known, that you dont have all the recent updates installed!!
[22:20] <jonubuntu> @ubuntu233 Thanks! I found the procedure to move grub too. Looks pretty easy; If that doesn't work I'll try a new install. Thanks again
[22:20] <gambl0re> you could have cautioned me
[22:20] <gambl0re> atleast
[22:20] <k1l> gambl0re: apt-get update doesnt install udates. it just gets the list with new packages
[22:20] <gambl0re> could i just cancel whatever its doing now and do it another time?
[22:20] <ubuntu233> JohnDoe1972: It is a extra file syatem to save changes in the OS.
[22:21] <k1l> gambl0re: sorry but that is server-basics.
[22:21] <k1l> gambl0re: installing the updates is mandatory.
[22:21] <k1l> !apt-get | gambl0re
[22:21] <Ben64> theres no way it should take 6 hours though
[22:21] <JohnDoe1972> ubuntu233, will the rest of the usb be avail to stor upon as the persistance file is only 4gb in size
[22:21] <k1l> read yourself in the basics in the meantime
[22:21] <gambl0re> can i cancel the update?
[22:22] <gambl0re> without causing any damage?
[22:22] <k1l> gambl0re: you need the updates
[22:22] <k1l> do it now
[22:22] <gambl0re> ill do it later on.
[22:22] <ubuntu233> jonubuntu: Cool, you don;t need to move it, but just get a terminal in the server and run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  X is the HD.
[22:22] <k1l> gambl0re: not having the recent updates can block installation of new software.
[22:23] <Maca> hola?
[22:24] <Maca> D:
[22:24] <Maca> necesito ayuda?
[22:24] <ubuntu233> JohnDoe1972: You can actually make a casper-rw partition, and have a persistance as big as you want. But live has it limitations, adding casper in this context I would not know. Not sure really what your question entails.
[22:24] <k1l> !ar | Maca
[22:24] <Ben64> !es | Maca
[22:24] <Ben64> oops
[22:25] <JohnDoe1972> ubuntu233, well , what i mean is that when i boot into ubuntu from 64gb usb wil the remaining 60 gb be asccessable to me to write to ?
[22:26] <Maca> hello?????
[22:27] <JohnDoe1972> hello
[22:27] <masharp_> Hallo!
[22:27] <Maca> español?
[22:27] <TJ-> regedit: I'm creating a USB image for you to try, give me 10 minutes
[22:27] <ubuntu233> JohnDoe1972: Ah, write to, wide question is all. You can have the usb iso on  a small partition and have the rest partitioned and openable from the live yes.
[22:27] <k1l> Maca: this channel is english only. see the bots messages for other languages
[22:27] <Bashing-om> DAnCoor: 15.04 uses the init system systes, and logging is a function of sais 'systemd'. What returns from terminal command ' journalctl ' ?
[22:28] <JohnDoe1972> the persistance file is just for changes to the os correct ?
[22:28] <Maca> gracias kill!
[22:28] <ubuntu233> JohnDoe1972: Yeah exactly the live, say you add apps, or do an update....etc.
[22:29] <ubuntu233> JohnDoe1972: Acts basically like an install, however it is the iso still, kernel updates are not good generally.
[22:30] <DAnCoor> drewx0r: thank you... your link cleared this out for me...
[22:30] <Bashing-om> DAnCoor: As one intro to systemd : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/systemd-essentials-working-with-services-units-and-the-journal
[22:31] <regedit> TJ-: awesome!
[22:31] <DAnCoor> Bashing-om: Thanks ... I'll read that link
[22:33] <drewx0r> DAnCoor, glad to help, and I'll keep it in mind whenever I finally have to upgrade my unit's computers from 12.04.
[22:34] <ImJune> W: Failed to fetch http://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en  Hash Sum mismatch
[22:35] <ImJune> hmm
[22:36] <DAnCoor> drewx0r: Well... I somewhat wish I never upgraded, but well... Now I'll have some catch up to do... :-)
[22:38] <drewx0r> my users' experience with 14.04 kept me clinging to 12.04 LTS. I'm still hanging on.
[22:38] <ImJune> hang on yeah
[22:39] <ImJune> there is something really wrong with 14 and 15
[22:39] <k1l> ImJune: that message appears when the servers are syncing and the packages are not matching the hashes from the list. just give it some time
[22:42] <DAnCoor> I had trouble from every dist upgrade last 3 times... Last time I figured out that since I wasn't used "sudo" from the beginning, when I start using sudo there was some missing in PATH that made my dist-upgrade crash every time... now from 14.10 I didn't use sudo (run from root) upgrade went through smoothless....
[22:44] <k1l> DAnCoor: the upgrades get automated testings, so if you dont change too much on your system manually, that should work like a charm. and i dont get what you mean with sudo vs. root
[22:44] <JohnDoe1972> guys i used ubuntu a couple of years ago and it was FASTTT. Kaylin seems REALLY slow in comparison !
[22:45] <histo> JohnDoe1972: what is kaylin?
[22:45] <JohnDoe1972> also the recycle bin folder on the desktop is in japanseese / chineese ?
[22:45] <JohnDoe1972> kylin
[22:45] <JohnDoe1972> ubunto 14.04.2
[22:45] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: kylin is the chineese version of ubuntu. why you use that?
[22:46] <JohnDoe1972> its whats on the ubunto download pake
[22:46] <JohnDoe1972> page
[22:46] <JohnDoe1972> sigh
[22:46] <DAnCoor> k1l: I never want to upgrade manually... that's why I upgraded to 14.10 because I needed the "mangle" file in shorewall newer release
[22:46] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: so you use a chineese version and wonder why its chineese?
[22:46] <JohnDoe1972> ive just wasted the last hour
[22:46] <JohnDoe1972> i dint know it weas the chineese version
[22:47] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: use the plain ubuntu version.
[22:47] <JohnDoe1972> its stupid shit like this why i stoped using ubuntu in the first place
[22:47] <histo> JohnDoe1972: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[22:47] <histo> JohnDoe1972: You're the one who chose to download the chinese version without reading whatever link you followed.
[22:48] <histo> JohnDoe1972: I don't see why this would stop you from using ubuntu?
[22:48] <JohnDoe1972> also why is it so slow ? im booting from usb. that should be like ssd speeds surely ! well not quite but faster than normal hhd
[22:48] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: you are making that too difficult. get the regular ubuntu iso. put it onto a usb or dvd like the official tutorial says, try it.
[22:48] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: no, usb is slow.
[22:48] <histo> JohnDoe1972: The read and write speed of usb is pretty slow
[22:48] <JohnDoe1972> faster then hdd !
[22:49] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: everything needs to be loaded into the ram. and most usb drives are very very very very very slow. just get the facts instead of blaming ubuntu
[22:49] <JohnDoe1972> i used ubuntu 12 and it was FAST !
[22:49] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: do you know the read and write speeds of that usb?
[22:49] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: then make a real install.
[22:51] <DAnCoor> k1l: Actually, when I moved from Mandrake to Ubuntu, I did the misstake to skip the "sudo" and continued using root... when I suddenly followed the instructions and did an dist-upgrade with sudo it stopped on libc and dev-libc upgrade... kind of loop problem.... appearantly sudo was missing some relevant path's to /sbin etc
[22:51] <JohnDoe1972> then im going to have to do the god damn live usb creator again
[22:51] <bazhang> no cursing here JohnDoe1972
[22:51] <JohnDoe1972> why ?
[22:51] <k1l> !guidelines | JohnDoe1972 that is why
[22:52] <bazhang> JohnDoe1972, a usb live will never be even a little close to hdd speeds
[22:52] <JohnDoe1972> isnt that a bit draconian ? i thought the web was where people could express themselves any way they wished !
[22:53] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys I have a quick question if I were to install another ubuntu OS over my current one will it save my files similar how windows will store them in windows.old folder?
[22:53] <JohnDoe1972> not to be controled by some power hungry  anonomous person who thinks god damn is a curse
[22:53] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: stop all that. if you just want to rant start a blog. this channel is for ubuntu support according to the guidelines.
[22:54] <histo> Demon_Jester: what is your current os?
[22:54] <bazhang> Demon_Jester, there should be an option to preserve the home
[22:54] <Demon_Jester> histo: xubuntu, and I will be install ubuntu server over it
[22:55] <Demon_Jester> bazhang: If my directory is in home will that guarantee that my files won't be deleted, or are all my files no matter what are in /home directory?
[22:55] <bazhang> at least for a desktop install, no idea about server
[22:56] <bazhang> try in #ubuntu-server about that Demon_Jester
[22:56] <Demon_Jester> bazhang, ok thanks
[22:58] <TJ-> regedit: let's take this private since it's not strictly Ubuntu now :)
[22:58] <onanymous> hello
[22:58] <Azaziah_> Hi! I',m trying to make backups of broken Win install with Ubuntu CD and wanted to use the LIVE feature, but it opens in GRUB instead
[22:59] <onanymous> i use a backbox :)
[23:00] <k1l> onanymous: then #backbox (or wherever they have a support channel)  is the right place :)
[23:00] <DalekSec> #backbox on irc.autistici.org/6667 to be precise.
[23:01] <onanymous> oke thx
[23:02] <ubuntu233> Azaziah_: you have a link to the download of the iso
[23:03] <ubuntu233> basically what your booting with live
[23:04] <Azaziah_> ubuntu233: I have ubuntu 10 from some years ago, it boots to grub_rescue console..Im pretty sure this used to work with Live..
[23:04] <k1l> Azaziah_: uh, that is very old. i would try a 14.04 or 15.05 to boot into live
[23:05] <ubuntu233> Azaziah_: does it boot to the live from any of the choices?
[23:05] <ubuntu233> +1 on a updated release
[23:07] <Azaziah_> ubuntu233: I set the laptop to boot from CD and it goes straight to grub rescue mode.. I should probaby try  to remake my backup solution if there is no easy way to fix this..
[23:11] <ubuntu233> Azaziah_: There is a per-session boot, mine is f12, my bios screen has a notation of this, try the cd from there if you can. Could youhave modified this cd to go to grub?
[23:12] <Azaziah_> My best quess is that the CD may thinks Acers hidden recovery partition is Ubuntu install or something?
[23:13] <educacionit> how do i sudo?
[23:13] <ubuntu233> Azaziah_: Without dragging this out further, I would try the per-session, I have seen the  bios bypass cd/usb's first listed
[23:14] <Azaziah_> ubuntu233: I trie'd that also but it does the same.. I don't think I have touched the CD myself, but maybe Ubuntu automatically edited it once I actually installed it on one HDD?
[23:15] <ubuntu233> Azaziah_: I would get a supported media like 14.04....etc
[23:16] <al2o3-cr> educacionit: how'd do you mean?
[23:17] <educacionit> al2o3-cr: how do i use sudo?
[23:18] <Azaziah_> ubuntu233: Okay then, thank you for the support and have a nice day! :)
[23:18] <ubuntu233> np
[23:18] <al2o3-cr> educacionit: sudo command ?
[23:19] <al2o3-cr> unless i'm missing what you really mean
[23:21] <ubuntu233> !sudo | educacionit
[23:33] <afflicto> Hi. I'm taking a lot of screenshots (and uploading to imgur) with shutter. But I wish it was automated (screenshot, upload, get URL to clipboard). Does anyone know of any alternatives that provide that?
[23:34] <FuZi0N> i was running an installer script and my ssh session timed out but the script is still running, how can i restore my sceen to resume the interactive installer?
[23:37] <psusi> FuZi0N, what is "an installer script"?
[23:37] <psusi> you have to have run it under screen to begin with and then can reattach using screen.. iirc, do-release-upgrade does this automatically
[23:39] <FuZi0N> i wasn't running it under screen, is there any way to restore it?
[23:39] <bazhang> FuZi0N, debian is not supported here
[23:39] <bazhang> keep in #debian FuZi0N
[23:39] <FuZi0N> ok
[23:45] <qmr2> ii  php5-mysql                                            5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.9                               amd64        MySQL module for php5
[23:45] <qmr2> ^ why does phpinfo() not show mysql support?  ubuntu 14.04
[23:46] <tvx> has Ubuntu gotten any better in regards to (a) hardware detection, (b) being able to view lots of images over a local network?
[23:47] <tvx> though i am a beginner to Linux i am unhappy with Manjaro and the seeming (from my perpective) difficulties it has resolving dependencies when using the genric add/remove software program.
[23:48] <grunhart> Using Lubuntu atm. Manjaro is cool but... Better safe than sorry.