[00:51] <bjrohan> Hello all. I just upgraded from 14.04 to 15.04. Without my changing any settings, my wireless internet connection is sporadic, and when connected doesn't have the bandwidth that it had in 14.04.
[00:51] <bjrohan> Any suggestions what may be wrong?
[04:50] <marco_> Hi
[05:23] <sladen> I posted a copy of  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2015-June/000612.html  "Councils' Threshing meeting, Friday 19 June 2015 17:00 UTC, #ubuntu-meeting " to kubuntu-devel
[05:23] <sladen> but that hit the reject as I've not a subscriber
[05:23] <sladen> is there somebody who might wish to forward it on?
[05:29] <valorie> sladen: I'll allow it
[05:29]  * valorie runs listadmin
[05:44] <sladen> valorie: ta
[05:47] <valorie> hmm, I don't see it sladen
[05:50] <sladen> valorie: "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at kubuntu-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com"
[05:51] <valorie> sladen: I can add you to the accept list I think
[05:56] <valorie> sladen: but since it was rejected, I'll just forward it for now
[05:56] <valorie> you are on the accept list now, though
[05:57] <sladen> valorie: I can try re-bouncing the original
[06:00] <valorie> that would be best if you don't mind
[06:00] <valorie> for threading purposes
[08:05] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:07] <cofo> Which pdf reader are you using?
[08:09] <lordievader> Most are using Okular here, I think. The default.
[08:10] <cofo> Is there difference between it and foxit reader?
[08:11] <cofo> I don't think so but what do you think?
[08:11] <lordievader> Yes, it is a different program.
[08:11] <lordievader> Try them out, I'd say.
[08:11] <cofo> I'm on windows
[08:11] <cofo> :<
[08:11] <cofo> i wish the colors on nano the same as in mac
[08:12] <cofo> the text wragler color..
[08:12] <lordievader> The colors of nano depend on your terminal settings.
[08:12] <cofo> i'm on putt
[08:12] <cofo> putty* sorry
[08:12] <lordievader> That is also a terminal emulator of sorts.
[09:59] <vbgunz> does anyone know why audio skips and sounds glitchy in Steam without pavucontrol opened but the moment I open pavucontrol, audio sounds great?
[10:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:06] <ricktimmis> vbgunz: Hi not sure I know the answer to that one as it's through Steam, do you have the same issue with Amarok, or other audio source?
[11:42] <eagles0513875> where do i set environmental variables?
[11:46] <lordievader> eagles0513875: That depends.
[11:46] <lordievader> Do you want them to be global or just for your user?
[11:48] <eagles0513875> in all hoenst at this point it doesnt matter as this is a single user pc
[11:48] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.com/KsLFUBwu
[11:48] <eagles0513875> that is the error im getting lordievader
[11:49] <lordievader> Should 'android' be in your path?
[11:49] <lordievader> Where did you install it to?
[11:49] <eagles0513875> lordievader: it is
[11:49] <eagles0513875> but im a bit confused in posts im seeing
[11:49] <eagles0513875> they say bash_profile
[11:49] <eagles0513875> 14.04 doesnt have that
[11:51] <eagles0513875> lordievader: ^
[11:52] <lordievader> eagles0513875: So 'android' is in your path? Under what user are you launching the build?
[11:54] <eagles0513875> lordievader: sorted it out
[11:55] <vbgunz> ricktimmis: well, it looks like audio from other sources play fine but steam just glitches and skips horribly unless I open pavucontrol
[11:55] <eagles0513875> lordievader: i still have a permissiosn issue but different from before
[11:56] <lordievader> eagles0513875: A permission issue?
[11:56] <eagles0513875> lordievader: ya let me try something else
[11:57] <lordievader> eagles0513875: ?
[12:23] <eagles0513875> i have the android sdk stuff in /usr/local and im trying it in the users home directory lordievader
[12:28] <lordievader> eagles0513875: /usr/local usually isn't in the PATH, indeed.
[12:56] <bjrohan_> Is anyone here?
[12:56] <ricktimmis> bjrohan_: Yes
[12:56] <ricktimmis> vbgunz: Sorry just back from lunch
[12:57] <ricktimmis> vbgunz: Sounds like it might be worth checking the logs for steam.. but I know nothing about steam, so will struggle
[12:58] <ricktimmis> vbgunz: Sounds like audio is working correctly though.. what version of Kubuntu you running ?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> bjrohan_, got a kubuntu question?
[13:01] <vbgunz> ricktimmis: 14.10
[13:09] <mparillo> ricktimmis: ovidiu-florin, ahoneybun: Thanks for the first Kubuntu podcast. Kubuntu Wire is back up: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=330 and that should automagically feed the KDE and Ubuntu Planets later today.
[13:18] <ricktimmis> mparillo: Would you like the show notes for kubuntu wire ?
[13:26] <mparillo> Sure. Show notes = Transcript?
[13:42] <ricktimmis> mparillo: Not quite a transcript, hold on I get you a link
[13:51] <ricktimmis> mparillo: Dah! sorry I can't get to it from where I am at the moment
[13:56] <witheld> I have a frankenbug and it's so insane I don't think I can report it...
[13:57] <lordievader> witheld: Frankenbug?
[13:58] <witheld> If I play Counter Strike Global offensive with the sink created by loading the pulseaudio module module-virtual-surround-sink, kwin_x11 suddenly starts using 100% CPU when I start the second match before crashing
[13:58] <witheld> No one will ever take this seriously
[13:59] <lordievader> witheld: Is the option to disable effects for fullscreen windows enabled?
[14:00] <witheld> No because ordinarily I use kwin's vsync which is rather better then most game's vsync
[14:01] <lordievader> Enable that and see if the problem goes away.
[14:01] <witheld> But if I stop using module-virtual-surround-sink(I don't even have to unload it, I simply have to not use it)it stops crashing
[14:01] <witheld> It's fucking insane
[14:01] <lordievader> witheld: Please watch your language.
[14:02] <witheld> Anyway gonna try that
[14:04] <witheld> it crahsed even faster
[14:05] <witheld> So...I'll just live without virtual surround in CSGO
[14:05] <lordievader> Hmm, anything in ~/.xsession-errors?
[14:36] <eXistenZe> Hey there
[14:41] <EvilRoey> hello eXistenZe :) for some reason I haven't seen you in a bit.
[14:43] <eXistenZe> Getting used to kubuntu... Don't need help every hour now :)
[14:43] <eXistenZe> been here yesterday or a couple days ago though
[14:50] <eXistenZe> hum... new bug... icon search (when trying to change a desktop link icon) does not open the actual search dialog when clicking "browse".
[15:04] <EvilRoey> eXistenZe:  btw where do we know each other from?
[15:04] <EvilRoey> #python, #israel, #linguistics, etc.
[15:07] <eXistenZe> neither
[15:08] <eXistenZe> you are confusing me with somebody else
[15:08] <eXistenZe> I just arrived here a couple weeks ago
[15:09] <eXistenZe> wouldn't mind knowing some coding although
[15:13] <BluesKaj> we avoid coding here, mostly we help with command line, that's about as deep as it can get when supporting Kubuntu
[15:15] <lordievader> Coding is fun though \o/
[15:18] <eXistenZe> command line can be hard enough
[15:18] <lordievader> eXistenZe: In the beginning ;)
[15:18] <eXistenZe> and linux itself can be a b****
[15:19] <EvilRoey> eXistenZe:  ah.  Maybe your nickname is not unique.
[15:19] <eXistenZe> some great apps keep support for linux, but develop mostly win
[15:21] <eXistenZe> Tried to use desmume (a nds emulator) this morning. Compiled SVN, installed, great. Plays games nicely, but they forgot everything else. Basic UI only, no saving options, not a single frontend option windows version has.
[15:23] <lordievader> eXistenZe: SVN from the repo was too old?
[15:24] <eXistenZe> EvilRoey: there's a movie named eXistenZ. Perhaps someone uses that
[15:25] <EvilRoey> ahhhhh perhaps so, eXistenZe
[15:27] <eXistenZe> lordievader: no... it's quite recent... and actively developed
[15:27] <lordievader> !info svn
[15:27] <lordievader> !info subversion
[15:28] <lordievader> Hmm, I see. Then why compile it yourself?
[15:28] <eXistenZe> oh... I thought you were talking about the app svn
[15:28] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Yes... subversion?
[15:31] <eXistenZe> there is no installer for desmume... you have to compile it youself... so might as well use the latest svn...
[15:32] <eXistenZe> but either way it's not a version problem. It's simply uninplemented features...
[15:33] <eXistenZe> win version is 20 steps ahead
[15:44] <BluesKaj>  I thought git had mostly replaced svn
[15:52] <tahaan> Where should I report errata for the Kubuntu website?
[15:53] <tahaan> OK, there is a link.
[16:00] <tahaan> Before I make a stupid mistake, on this page: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu ... After selecting 15.04, there is a link to with the following Hyper text: "Upgade Kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 LTS"
[16:00] <tahaan> I believe the LTS is in error
[16:02] <BluesKaj> tahaan, 14.04 is LTS, not 15.04
[16:02] <tahaan> Hence I believe it to be an error.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> there is no erroe on that site
[16:03] <BluesKaj> reread it
[16:03] <tahaan> I can clearly see "15.04 LTS"
[16:03] <tahaan> Under Upgrade
[16:05] <BluesKaj> tahaan, i don't see any "upgrade" option on http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[16:06] <tahaan> Did you select the "Kubuntu 15.04" option, which opens up the download options for that release?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> tahaan, if you cick on the upgrade it clearly shows that 15,04  is not LTS, I grant you the link has a typo , but the upgrade doesn't
[16:10] <BluesKaj> good that you pointed that out
[16:12] <tahaan> I doubted myself for half a second when I saw that today
[16:33] <eXistenZe> when we install an app like wine, it brings a couple dozens of packages dependencies. Do these packages have any impact on kubuntu performance/behaviour?
[16:34] <eXistenZe> can I use a safe reverse uninstall process? purge?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> eXistenZe, yes purge should take care of any uneeded packages as well
[16:37] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Having packages installed should not degrade performance. Running non-used services does.
[16:39] <eXistenZe> I'm guessing installing wine installs some services too
[16:45] <lordievader> Nope.
[16:48] <eXistenZe> service != process ?
[16:52] <lordievader> It is, but not necessarily the other way around.
[17:08] <eXistenZe> can apt-get uninstall any package in kubuntu?
[17:08] <eXistenZe> like the ones manually installed or installed with muon discover?
[17:09] <lordievader> Yes.
[17:09] <eXistenZe> and is there any way to find packages not needed any more?
[17:10] <lordievader> Mostly experience... though apt-get autoremove removes the obvious ones.
[17:24] <eXistenZe> are the sources for apt-get and muon discover the same?
[17:25] <lordievader> Yes.
[17:25] <eXistenZe> so I can use apt-get for everything, right?
[17:25] <lordievader> Muon pretty much calls apt-get for anything it does.
[17:25] <eXistenZe> including the updates...
[17:25] <lordievader> Of course.
[17:25] <lordievader> I rarely use Muon under Kubuntu.
[17:26] <eXistenZe> what's the proper procedure to uninstall these two apps? muon discover and update?
[17:27] <eXistenZe> how do I find their names? do I use purge for both?
[17:27] <lordievader> Do you want to remove their configs?
[17:27] <lordievader> Also: dpkg -l|grep muon
[17:27] <eXistenZe> if it does not mess with apt-get
[17:28] <lordievader> Muon can be removed with its config, no problem.
[17:30] <eXistenZe> -l lists. what does "grep" do?  there's no info on it
[17:31] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Sure there is: man grep
[17:34] <eXistenZe> theres a manual for command lines? nice
[17:35] <eXistenZe> do dpgk is a package manager, -l list packages, grep tells it to search in files name?
[17:36] <eXistenZe> so*
[17:37] <lordievader> Grep looks for whatever you give it to look for in whatever you give it to look in. In this case the output of dpkg -l, for 'muon'.
[17:38] <eXistenZe> so I can purge the 4 results?
[17:38] <lordievader> What are the 4 results?
[17:38] <lordievader> !paste
[17:38] <eXistenZe> common, discover, notifier and updater
[17:41] <eXistenZe> yes?
[17:41] <lordievader> Ah, err. Yes, shouldn't hurt to have those missing.
[17:43] <lordievader> I'm off, talk to you later.
[17:43] <eXistenZe> guess I'll test that theory
[17:44] <eXistenZe> thanks
[18:03] <dhq> hey guys how are you
[18:04] <dhq> i just upgraded to 15.04 my resolution looks ok but all the applications are huge
[18:04] <dhq> any idea what i should do
[18:07] <hangman13us> What you mean 'huge'?
[18:07] <hangman13us> Do you have a creenshot?
[18:16] <dhq> hangman13us: http://picpaste.com/20150618_210925-DTFufA8l.jpg
[18:16] <hangman13us> Hm... odd
[18:16] <hangman13us> You'd better check the visual settings.
[18:17] <dhq> the taskbar, and google chrome application is not huge rest all the default are huge
[18:17] <dhq> i searched every where couldnt find what to change
[18:17] <hangman13us> Try appearance -> Application style
[18:18] <hangman13us> Sometimes themes are not disigned properly - try using other theme for your desktop.
[18:18] <hangman13us> It may work.
[18:18] <hangman13us> That's my only idea now.
[18:23] <dhq> hangman13us: is there a way to reset
[18:23] <dhq> the desktop to default
[18:23] <hangman13us> Yes I think, but can't remember where it was.
[18:23] <hangman13us> Let me check if I can find it.
[18:24] <hangman13us> Try appearance -> workspace theme
[18:24] <hangman13us> It works for me.
[18:27] <thelionroars> is there a ppa available for 15.04 with the latest version of plasma?
[18:27] <dhq> hangman13us:  have only on theme in workspace theme but i cant add anything
[18:37] <soee> thelionroars: backports have latest plasam
[18:37] <soee> *plasma
[18:38] <thelionroars> cheers, just saw it http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3
[20:03] <steveire> Can anyone using ubuntu qt 5 packages confirm this? https://paste.kde.org/prswbme4y
[20:06] <steveire> Anyone with qmake installed.
[20:12] <dremiam> kik
[20:38] <eXistenZe> hey again
[20:42] <eXistenZe> is kubuntu like 1/20 users of all ubuntu distros?
[20:44] <BluesKaj> comparing  the number nicks between Kubuntu and Ubuntu chats I reckon
[20:45] <babu_> hi
[20:46] <babu_> i am new to linux
[20:46] <ahoneybun> hey babu_welcome
[20:46] <babu_> i need some help
[20:47] <BluesKaj> we all new to linux once , babu_  :-)
[20:47] <ahoneybun> what's up babu_ :)
[20:47] <BluesKaj> were that is
[20:47] <ahoneybun> I was about to correct you BluesKaj lol
[20:48] <babu_> how can i restrict gcc access
[20:48] <babu_> only to root
[20:50] <babu_> hello
[20:51] <ahoneybun> not idea about limiting that
[20:51] <ahoneybun> maybe change the permissions on the bin?
[20:51] <babu_> how
[20:51] <babu_> ?
[20:52] <ahoneybun> it might have a lot of changes
[20:52] <ahoneybun> not sure of the effect it would have system wide
[20:52] <babu_> which version you are using now
[20:53] <ahoneybun> 15.04
[20:53]  * ahoneybun reviews the Kubuntu Documentation in epub format
[20:54] <ahoneybun> there are 17 different bins that have gcc in their name
[20:54] <ahoneybun> not sure which one to change permissons
[21:00] <eXistenZe> hey guys. can anyone recomend me a good linux documentation that explains the basics? Like what is the kernel, the shell, gnome, kde, plasma, debian, rpm, etc, etc
[21:04] <ahoneybun> eXistenZe: this cover somethings: http://192.254.78.155/index.html
[21:07] <ikonia> eXistenZe: it's a bit offtopic for here, but you'll probably do well to research each item in detail rather than look for one place that talks about it all
[21:08] <eXistenZe> what is the relationship between plasma and kde?
[21:08] <ahoneybun> plasma is the desktop interface that kde uses
[21:08] <ahoneybun> KDE itself is the DE (Desktop Environment)
[21:09] <eXistenZe> so a DE can have multiple interfaces?
[21:09] <ahoneybun> I might be explaining it wrong
[21:10] <ahoneybun> DE: GNOME ; Shell: GNOME Shell
[21:10] <ahoneybun> DE: KDE ; Shell: Plasma
[21:10] <ahoneybun> I believe
[21:11] <eXistenZe> isn't the "shell" the CLI of linux?
[21:13] <ahoneybun> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8675599/whats-the-difference-between-a-graphical-shell-and-a-desktop-environment
[21:13] <ahoneybun> eXistenZe: ^
[21:13] <eXistenZe> thanks
[21:15] <eXistenZe> "The "shell" for Windows is "explorer.exe" but Windows itself is the "desktop environment"."
[21:15] <eXistenZe> not a very good example
[21:15] <eXistenZe> then the shell for kubuntu would be dolphin or konqueror
[21:19] <eXistenZe> it's not easy to search for windows comparisons since windows is everything
[21:35] <eXistenZe> is there a part of all linux distros that is common? like the kernel, bash shell and x.org?
[21:38] <ahoneybun> kernel
[21:39] <ahoneybun> they could have different shell, zsh korn
[21:39] <ahoneybun> and could use Wayland over Xorg
[21:43] <acz32> is it possible to use the Menu keyboard key in shortcuts?
[21:51] <eXistenZe> from the user pov, we can only update files, apps, daemons, (desktop shell perhaps?), right? To update the DE, bash shell and kernel we need a distro update?
[22:12] <eXistenZe> guess it's enough for today
[22:12] <eXistenZe> see ya
[22:12] <eXistenZe> thanks ahoneybun