[13:18] <ogra_> cking, hey ... so i found the issue of my overheating laptop ... (though it still is beyond me why it started *exactly* with the upgrade to vivid) ... obviously a 1cm thick filth blob at the fan intake isnt really helping to cool the CPU ... 
[13:19] <ogra_> (took me a week to get the right wrench to even open that XPS13 properl)
[13:19] <ogra_> i havent tried switching back to thermald control yet, but i guess it will be fine
[13:19] <ogra_> read: i think we can close the bug
[13:19] <cking> ogra_, ah, it should be fine w/o thermald if you have cleaned out the fan
[13:19] <cking> http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/hot-laptop.html
[13:20] <cking> it's happened to us all
[13:20] <ogra_> well, the thing is that the dveic ebehaved totally fine before the upgrade ... 
[13:20] <ogra_> uh, my typing ... 
[13:21] <cking> ogra_, vivid works hard to make sure you CPU does not cook, so I think the scaling was trying to do this and not working well because the thermal gradients were not as it expected
[13:21] <ogra_> but yeah, my fan intake looked similar :)
[13:21] <ogra_> ah !
[13:22] <cking> the passive cooling expects some kind of heating/cooling characteristic, but if the CPU is on fire it will just ramp down fast then give you all sorts of odd up/down speed changes
[13:22] <ogra_> yeah, now i understand 
[13:23] <cking> i'm glad it resolved it.  i7's are probably the worst headache as they dump a lot of heat very quickly into the thermal zone
[13:25] <ogra_> yeah, and the old XPS13 having a teeny weeny fan and heatpipies going everywhere through the case doesnt really help the case :)
[13:27] <cking> ogra_, i guess manufacturers need to run stress-ng to see if their laptop thermal designs are OK ;-)
[13:27] <ogra_> well, i'm sure it is ok if it comes out of the factory ... they should be obligated to do tests after 1-2 years of usage ;)
[13:39] <cking> ogra_, care to update bug 1460399 with your findings, I think we should close that one now :-)
[13:40] <ogra_> cking, yeah, closing it (there was someone else moaning in a comment, i guess he should open a new one)
[13:41] <cking> definitely