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mappshi all;D05:04
knightwiseheya mapps05:35
MooDoomorning07:36
diploMorning07:42
popeyf/7807:43
popeyoof07:43
popeyhello :)07:43
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davmor2morning all08:23
davmor2bigcalm: you and your firm might want to have a look at this http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/serious-os-x-and-ios-flaws-let-hackers-steal-keychain-1password-contents/08:24
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:24
davmor2morning brobostigon08:25
MooDoomorning davmor208:25
brobostigonmorning davmor2 and MooDoo08:25
davmor2morning MooDoo me owld mucka08:26
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:26
bigcalmdavmor2: ta08:26
TwistedLucidityXARA attack. Nice name.08:52
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy International Picnic Day! 😃09:04
zmoylan-pipicnic... on a thursday... well that's well thought out...09:05
zmoylan-piwould be better as floating holiday.  3rd saturday of jun sort of thing09:05
davmor2JamesTait: again with the trying to make us eat cold vegetables09:05
* davmor2 is thinking JamesTait is on a diet or something with all this health food crap ;)09:06
zmoylan-pinah, cheese is best.  you can hike anywhere and drop it in lake, burn your rucksack, drop it, squash it and it might still be edible :-)09:06
* zmoylan-pi makes mental note to get some cheese for weekends gaming...09:08
JamesTaitdavmor2, sausage rolls, pork pies, cheese rolls - all veggies! 😉09:09
JamesTaitzmoylan-pi, cheese is the way forward, I agree.09:09
zmoylan-piwell the cow the sausage roll was made from was a vegetarian so that counts, right? :-D09:09
JamesTaitDefinitely!09:11
MyrttiDell onsite just called and they're coming between 11 and 1209:14
* zmoylan-pi starts taking bets09:14
Myrttihad to clear out a lot of plant repotting kit, soldering station, yarn scraps, discarded pieces of single core wire and resistors and sewing machine away09:15
davmor2Myrtti: wow so no phone call they are actually turning up09:15
Myrttiyeah09:15
zmoylan-pioptimism... raises the odds of them turning up... :-P09:15
Myrttikeeping in mind this is a refurb bought from eBay09:15
Myrttiso I'm surprised I got this far09:16
Myrttialthough it seemed a very reputable refurb company09:16
zmoylan-pimaybe the original owner logged a ticket and now years later it's going to happen? :-)09:16
Myrttithe speakers worked fine before, so it's a new fault09:16
MyrttiOF COURSE it's doing a FULL BACKUP now.09:20
Myrttisweet jebus09:21
Myrttigrrr09:21
mapppps:)09:54
mappppsUrgh why is ot always such a chore going to doctors or hospital09:56
mappppsAlmost an hour after the time i was told!!09:57
zmoylan-pibecause you're not well when you go there?09:57
mappppsI mean the waiting09:58
mappppsI waa told 11:10 local time09:58
mappppsNow 11:5709:58
diploBecause they allow 5~ mins per appointment and if each person before you takes 8mins~ it all adds up09:58
diploAlthough I agree it sucks :/09:59
Laneyscary massive bang on the window10:01
Laneyforgot the window cleaner was here10:01
mappppsAlmost an hour over10:02
mappppsGah10:02
mappppsAm i ever going to be seen10:02
foobarry#firstworldproblems amazon delivery has been delivered to a neighbour 3 doors down. thats outside my usual talking range10:10
mappppsHahaj10:12
mappppsI had like three parcels delivered to me by amaaon not fot me but s diff street luckily the guy came back and realises10:13
mappppsRealised when he still had my stuff :)10:13
mappppsIf i left this and jist go to a&e in uk tomorrow surely theyd sort it for me ?10:18
bashrcfoobarry: could you use a megaphone?10:22
diplomapppps: at my docs, if you wait over 30 mins I think, you're supposed to go see the receptionist10:24
foobarryat the walk-in clinic at A&E i waited 4hrs will a swollen face and then went home10:25
directhexa&e works on a triage basis. you may wait a long time because an ambulance just brought in a person in multiple pieces10:26
directhexdoctor's appointments... exactly as diplo said10:26
directhexit's frustrating as hell, but "efficiency" means keeping the pipeline stuffed, means booking in more people than can be seen in the time, to ensure the doctor is never sat twiddling their thumbs10:26
directhex"eliminating wastage" is what causes delays for appointments, by removing any kind of buffer to timing10:27
foobarrywe have an urgent care centre now, its better10:27
directhextl;dr: bloody tories10:27
foobarryif you aren't in pieces10:27
mappsyay all done10:29
mappsdiplo she just cae out and said anyone waiting for dressing10:30
mappstook like 1min to have 3 stitches removed;p waited 1hr1010:30
foobarryubuntu sysadmins..10:30
mappsso basically dont get hit over the head with a bottle10:30
mappsor expect a wait10:30
foobarrycan i ask ubuntu to only auto install kernels with security updates ?10:30
jpdsfoobarry: Yep.10:31
jpdsBut there only really is a concept of a 'kernel upgrade'.10:31
Myrttioh sweet jebus. android backup?10:31
Myrtti5Gigs10:32
foobarryhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/194/how-can-i-install-just-security-updates-from-the-command-line10:32
mappshead has a bi old scab tho now;/10:32
jpdsfoobarry: You want: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic and /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades10:34
mappshopefully wont repeat this incident ..ever again10:34
foobarrythanks jpds looks like security only is already checked :_|10:35
jpdsfoobarry: Which is potentially a bad thing as things from -security move to -updates after a few hours.10:35
kjvarleyMy linux server is pinging 8.8.8.8 and I'm not sure why. Over 3000 sessions to it. Any ideas how I can find out what application is making the connections ?10:53
foobarrynetstat -plant10:54
foobarryhmm, that doesn't register icmp10:56
kjvarleyIt's weird cos netstat isn't showing the sessions but the router is10:56
foobarryyou sure it's pinging?10:57
kjvarleyWell - 3000 sessions to 8.8.8.810:57
kjvarleyIt keeps going up10:57
foobarry"sessions"10:59
foobarryare you sure its not dns requests?10:59
foobarryuse tcpdump or iptraf to inspec teh traffic10:59
popeykjvarley: you're saying "pinging", do you really mean "ping" or do you mean "talking to"?11:03
kjvarleySorry yes I mean talking to11:03
kjvarleyI've just got IP Traf installed11:03
popey8.8.8.8 is google dns11:04
popeyif that's your dns server then expect this11:04
kjvarleyHow come it is doing so many DNS lookups? And why isn't it closing the sessions afterwards?11:05
kjvarleySeems to be doing about 1000 checks within a 5 minute period11:05
kjvarleyHow can I further diagnose this ?11:05
foobarrytcpdump host 8.8.8.811:06
foobarryugly way could be to start killing processes until tcpdump stops showing stuffs. (it may not stop if networkmanager is polling dns for some reason)11:07
popeykjvarley: what is running on the box?11:07
kjvarleyfoobarry: that shows nothing which is weird11:08
kjvarleyfoobarry: Oh okay, it's started showing now11:09
kjvarleypopey: ZoneMinder CCTV box. But I have stopped zoneminder, apache2 and mysql11:09
kjvarleyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11734866/11:10
popeyis it looking up mail server dns records?11:11
popeyis there a mailserver on that box?11:11
popeyor is it sending a lot of mail11:11
ujjainI have a quesiton about hangovers and beer. Is it normal that your legs feel a bit less useful/strong next morning after beers? walking stairs sometimes crappy11:15
ujjainalso, I want to make a claim of compensation to a money, where could I find a template/sample? google for which terms?11:16
MyrttiTURNS OUT, the left speaker wasn't plugged in to the mobo and it didn't even have the male terminal on it to click it to anywhere, just the two hanging wires.11:16
popeyhah11:16
popeyujjain: compensation for what?11:17
ujjainah, demand letter sample11:17
popeyah11:17
Myrttiand I could've sworn I've heard music in stereo before11:17
ujjainfor my time, for my money for telephone hours, etc.11:17
popeygood luck11:17
ujjainhaha thanks11:18
foobarryujjain: however if you hurt yourself when drunk, its probably your own fault :D11:22
ujjainhahaha :D11:22
ujjainI have been fine lately with drunk escapaes11:22
ujjainescapades11:22
Myrttithe onsite repair bloke was happy, I offered him coffee from our Angry Birds mugs and he said this was about the easiest gig he's had the whole week11:35
TwistedLucidityujjain: I just made a basic one up myself.11:42
TwistedLucidityThere's a few template about, but they're all terrible IMHO11:43
ujjainah, I just finished mine, but if you could share some of yours11:43
ujjainI'm not an English native11:43
ujjainI just want to see if they are offering any compensation, I really spent too much time on it11:43
ujjainit* getting things right with this organisation, they ended up closing my bank account lol, without informing me, after many hours phone calls etc.11:43
TwistedLucidityAh...compensation in that sense. OK, no. I have no file for that.11:44
TwistedLucidityI'd just create a simple table listing your costs and time.11:44
ujjainYeah, but I called my phone company, they have no list of my phone calls, meh11:47
ujjainso my administration is pretty crappy anyway11:47
ujjainbut I've written a letter, we'll see, I'm not going to have any expectations11:47
ujjainLast time I played on a casino, rented a car, did anything, I didn't expect the company to screw me for £1k, but still happened11:47
ujjainstarting to dislike firefox, meh, performance sometimes really horrible11:48
knightwisehey everyone11:58
TwistedLucidityujjain: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/39q6xt/some_useful_firefox_tips_to_fix_choppy_scrolling/12:00
ujjainsometimes it becomes unresponsive for a while these days, no way to find out which add-on, but add-ons seem even fine12:01
Myrttisweet.12:01
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ujjainhey, I want to postsomething on reddit and need english help12:20
ujjainPilsner Urquell at the Vltava River in Prague http://i.imgur.com/mJDDfns.jpg12:20
ujjainis "at" the right word here?12:21
ujjain"near to" "next to"12:21
ujjainwhich preposition would be best12:21
ujjainmaybe just Pilsner Urquell by the Vltava River in Prague, makes sense to me.12:23
ujjainprepositions are difficult.12:23
TwistedLucidityI'd use "beside". e.g. "Pilsner Urquell beside the Vltava River..."12:30
TwistedLucidity"next to" works as well12:30
kjvarleypopey: You were right. The issue was with Nullmailer. This guide helped me fix it http://bigbrus.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/lots-of-dns-requests-from-ubuntu-1204.html Thanks for all your help :)12:41
popeysweet!12:41
moreatiRequest for a sanity check. On 15.04 please install silversearcher-ag; then run ag foo. Do you get the error "ERR: error in pthread_setaffinity_np(): Invalid argument"?13:22
popey(on 15.10 I don't)13:23
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ujjainah besides13:35
ujjainshould positive balances be on my credit report?15:54
ujjainmy lloyds shows as £0 for the last 15 months15:54
moreatiFTR that error is peculiar to my laptop. Best guess is it's because I'm running kernel 4.1rc115:57
intrbizujjain: credit report should just show how much you owe I think15:57
ujjainah ok, I owe nothing, still nobody wants to give me a cc15:58
popeymoreati: oh, likely yes. probably some kernel option we have in our kernels which aren't in the default kernel16:13
moreatiThe gory details https://github.com/ggreer/the_silver_searcher/issues/69516:41
popeyout of interest, why that kernel?16:42
moreatiIt's a Macbook Pro (bad idea), I was getting unexplained freezes. They went away after I upgraded the kernel.16:44
popeyahhh16:56
popeyreasonable16:56
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daftykinstelco support amuses me17:49
daftykinsmy client dropped his phone in the water again beside his boat17:49
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/rgjgw5ilnensuq1/o2support.png?dl=017:49
daftykinsalready mentioned this but then O2 support is like "dial this to tell us your IMEI"17:49
daftykinslul17:49
MartijnVdSoops17:51
daftykinshe's now one dropped in water phone per boat trip!17:51
daftykins+t17:51
daftykins*+at17:52
zmoylan-pimy brother had a drain unblocking business.  for ages they took his word that a phone dropped in a cesspit was lost.  but eventually they refused a replacement till he returned the 'damaged' phone.  so he cleaned it off as best he could and returned it.17:53
zmoylan-piafter one stinky phone was returned they never questioned a loss again :-)17:54
daftykinsXD17:54
popeyhah17:57
* DJones wonders whether to report a bug against launchpad for spamming him with bug reports for a bug he didn't subscribe to, but because somebody marked it as a duplicate of a big he was interested in years ago, he now gets these bug emails19:22
daftykins:D19:22
DJonesEven more frustrating is that the bug I was subscribed to was marked as closed19:23
diddledanDJones: I've got manymany emails from one particular bug that people keep insisting on commenting to say "it's still broke. fix it."19:36
DJonesAt least there's a link in the emails to unsubscribe ... thankfully19:37
diddledanlol "if anyone wants their vocons neuralised..." <-- love the linux voice guys20:14
diddledanso apparently people are upset that apple are using articles provided free of charge without paying for them: www.macrumors.com/2015/06/17/apple-news-publishers-opt-out21:35
diddledanmy response is "you publish an rss feed but insist that nobody uses it?"21:35
daftykinswhole lotta butthurt huh?21:38
daftykinsthat was a dead link for me btw o021:38
diddledanif the publishers don't want apple using their data then perhaps the publisher should not publish it or at least not include it in a machine readable format21:38
diddledanoopsiedoodle21:44
diddledanbsod21:44
diddledanhere's the correctified macrumors link: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/06/17/apple-news-publishers-email-opt-out/21:45
diddledanI missed -email21:46
diddledanit was handtopyed21:46
daftykinsty sir21:47
daftykinsah i love using this 'livestreamer' thing so i don't have to watch e.g. twitch feeds in horrible flash anymore ;D21:48
daftykinsinstead i can view it in the wonderful hardware accelerated player of my choice21:48
diddledanm0nkey_: having internet problems?22:09
daftykinsseems so O_.22:10
zmoylan-pi♪ you put the wifi in range ♫22:14
diddledanI say the next version of ubuntu should be free. Lets start a petition to FREE WILY.22:21
diddledanhttp://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/heinz-forced-to-apologise-after-qr-code-on-ketchup-bottle-linked-to-hardcore-porn-site-10327313.html22:45
diddledanWHEEEE22:55
diddledannetsplitftw!22:55

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