[05:04] <mapps> hi all;D
[05:35] <knightwise> heya mapps
[07:36] <MooDoo> morning
[07:42] <diplo> Morning
[07:43] <popey> f/78
[07:43] <popey> oof
[07:43] <popey> hello :)
[08:23] <davmor2> morning all
[08:24] <davmor2> bigcalm: you and your firm might want to have a look at this http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/serious-os-x-and-ios-flaws-let-hackers-steal-keychain-1password-contents/
[08:24] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:25] <davmor2> morning brobostigon
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:25] <brobostigon> morning davmor2 and MooDoo
[08:26] <davmor2> morning MooDoo me owld mucka
[08:26] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:26] <bigcalm> davmor2: ta
[08:52] <TwistedLucidity> XARA attack. Nice name.
[09:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy International Picnic Day! 😃
[09:05] <zmoylan-pi> picnic... on a thursday... well that's well thought out...
[09:05] <zmoylan-pi> would be better as floating holiday.  3rd saturday of jun sort of thing
[09:05] <davmor2> JamesTait: again with the trying to make us eat cold vegetables
[09:06]  * davmor2 is thinking JamesTait is on a diet or something with all this health food crap ;)
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> nah, cheese is best.  you can hike anywhere and drop it in lake, burn your rucksack, drop it, squash it and it might still be edible :-)
[09:08]  * zmoylan-pi makes mental note to get some cheese for weekends gaming...
[09:09] <JamesTait> davmor2, sausage rolls, pork pies, cheese rolls - all veggies! 😉
[09:09] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, cheese is the way forward, I agree.
[09:09] <zmoylan-pi> well the cow the sausage roll was made from was a vegetarian so that counts, right? :-D
[09:11] <JamesTait> Definitely!
[09:14] <Myrtti> Dell onsite just called and they're coming between 11 and 12
[09:14]  * zmoylan-pi starts taking bets
[09:15] <Myrtti> had to clear out a lot of plant repotting kit, soldering station, yarn scraps, discarded pieces of single core wire and resistors and sewing machine away
[09:15] <davmor2> Myrtti: wow so no phone call they are actually turning up
[09:15] <Myrtti> yeah
[09:15] <zmoylan-pi> optimism... raises the odds of them turning up... :-P
[09:15] <Myrtti> keeping in mind this is a refurb bought from eBay
[09:16] <Myrtti> so I'm surprised I got this far
[09:16] <Myrtti> although it seemed a very reputable refurb company
[09:16] <zmoylan-pi> maybe the original owner logged a ticket and now years later it's going to happen? :-)
[09:16] <Myrtti> the speakers worked fine before, so it's a new fault
[09:20] <Myrtti> OF COURSE it's doing a FULL BACKUP now.
[09:21] <Myrtti> sweet jebus
[09:21] <Myrtti> grrr
[09:54] <mapppps> :)
[09:56] <mapppps> Urgh why is ot always such a chore going to doctors or hospital
[09:57] <mapppps> Almost an hour after the time i was told!!
[09:57] <zmoylan-pi> because you're not well when you go there?
[09:58] <mapppps> I mean the waiting
[09:58] <mapppps> I waa told 11:10 local time
[09:58] <mapppps> Now 11:57
[09:58] <diplo> Because they allow 5~ mins per appointment and if each person before you takes 8mins~ it all adds up
[09:59] <diplo> Although I agree it sucks :/
[10:01] <Laney> scary massive bang on the window
[10:01] <Laney> forgot the window cleaner was here
[10:02] <mapppps> Almost an hour over
[10:02] <mapppps> Gah
[10:02] <mapppps> Am i ever going to be seen
[10:10] <foobarry> #firstworldproblems amazon delivery has been delivered to a neighbour 3 doors down. thats outside my usual talking range
[10:12] <mapppps> Hahaj
[10:13] <mapppps> I had like three parcels delivered to me by amaaon not fot me but s diff street luckily the guy came back and realises
[10:13] <mapppps> Realised when he still had my stuff :)
[10:18] <mapppps> If i left this and jist go to a&e in uk tomorrow surely theyd sort it for me ?
[10:22] <bashrc> foobarry: could you use a megaphone?
[10:24] <diplo> mapppps: at my docs, if you wait over 30 mins I think, you're supposed to go see the receptionist
[10:25] <foobarry> at the walk-in clinic at A&E i waited 4hrs will a swollen face and then went home
[10:26] <directhex> a&e works on a triage basis. you may wait a long time because an ambulance just brought in a person in multiple pieces
[10:26] <directhex> doctor's appointments... exactly as diplo said
[10:26] <directhex> it's frustrating as hell, but "efficiency" means keeping the pipeline stuffed, means booking in more people than can be seen in the time, to ensure the doctor is never sat twiddling their thumbs
[10:27] <directhex> "eliminating wastage" is what causes delays for appointments, by removing any kind of buffer to timing
[10:27] <foobarry> we have an urgent care centre now, its better
[10:27] <directhex> tl;dr: bloody tories
[10:27] <foobarry> if you aren't in pieces
[10:29] <mapps> yay all done
[10:30] <mapps> diplo she just cae out and said anyone waiting for dressing
[10:30] <mapps> took like 1min to have 3 stitches removed;p waited 1hr10
[10:30] <foobarry> ubuntu sysadmins..
[10:30] <mapps> so basically dont get hit over the head with a bottle
[10:30] <mapps> or expect a wait
[10:30] <foobarry> can i ask ubuntu to only auto install kernels with security updates ?
[10:31] <jpds> foobarry: Yep.
[10:31] <jpds> But there only really is a concept of a 'kernel upgrade'.
[10:31] <Myrtti> oh sweet jebus. android backup?
[10:32] <Myrtti> 5Gigs
[10:32] <foobarry> http://askubuntu.com/questions/194/how-can-i-install-just-security-updates-from-the-command-line
[10:32] <mapps> head has a bi old scab tho now;/
[10:34] <jpds> foobarry: You want: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic and /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[10:34] <mapps> hopefully wont repeat this incident ..ever again
[10:35] <foobarry> thanks jpds looks like security only is already checked :_|
[10:35] <jpds> foobarry: Which is potentially a bad thing as things from -security move to -updates after a few hours.
[10:53] <kjvarley> My linux server is pinging 8.8.8.8 and I'm not sure why. Over 3000 sessions to it. Any ideas how I can find out what application is making the connections ?
[10:54] <foobarry> netstat -plant
[10:56] <foobarry> hmm, that doesn't register icmp
[10:56] <kjvarley> It's weird cos netstat isn't showing the sessions but the router is
[10:57] <foobarry> you sure it's pinging?
[10:57] <kjvarley> Well - 3000 sessions to 8.8.8.8
[10:57] <kjvarley> It keeps going up
[10:59] <foobarry> "sessions"
[10:59] <foobarry> are you sure its not dns requests?
[10:59] <foobarry> use tcpdump or iptraf to inspec teh traffic
[11:03] <popey> kjvarley: you're saying "pinging", do you really mean "ping" or do you mean "talking to"?
[11:03] <kjvarley> Sorry yes I mean talking to
[11:03] <kjvarley> I've just got IP Traf installed
[11:04] <popey> 8.8.8.8 is google dns
[11:04] <popey> if that's your dns server then expect this
[11:05] <kjvarley> How come it is doing so many DNS lookups? And why isn't it closing the sessions afterwards?
[11:05] <kjvarley> Seems to be doing about 1000 checks within a 5 minute period
[11:05] <kjvarley> How can I further diagnose this ?
[11:06] <foobarry> tcpdump host 8.8.8.8
[11:07] <foobarry> ugly way could be to start killing processes until tcpdump stops showing stuffs. (it may not stop if networkmanager is polling dns for some reason)
[11:07] <popey> kjvarley: what is running on the box?
[11:08] <kjvarley> foobarry: that shows nothing which is weird
[11:09] <kjvarley> foobarry: Oh okay, it's started showing now
[11:09] <kjvarley> popey: ZoneMinder CCTV box. But I have stopped zoneminder, apache2 and mysql
[11:10] <kjvarley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11734866/
[11:11] <popey> is it looking up mail server dns records?
[11:11] <popey> is there a mailserver on that box?
[11:11] <popey> or is it sending a lot of mail
[11:15] <ujjain> I have a quesiton about hangovers and beer. Is it normal that your legs feel a bit less useful/strong next morning after beers? walking stairs sometimes crappy
[11:16] <ujjain> also, I want to make a claim of compensation to a money, where could I find a template/sample? google for which terms?
[11:16] <Myrtti> TURNS OUT, the left speaker wasn't plugged in to the mobo and it didn't even have the male terminal on it to click it to anywhere, just the two hanging wires.
[11:16] <popey> hah
[11:17] <popey> ujjain: compensation for what?
[11:17] <ujjain> ah, demand letter sample
[11:17] <popey> ah
[11:17] <Myrtti> and I could've sworn I've heard music in stereo before
[11:17] <ujjain> for my time, for my money for telephone hours, etc.
[11:17] <popey> good luck
[11:18] <ujjain> haha thanks
[11:22] <foobarry> ujjain: however if you hurt yourself when drunk, its probably your own fault :D
[11:22] <ujjain> hahaha :D
[11:22] <ujjain> I have been fine lately with drunk escapaes
[11:22] <ujjain> escapades
[11:35] <Myrtti> the onsite repair bloke was happy, I offered him coffee from our Angry Birds mugs and he said this was about the easiest gig he's had the whole week
[11:42] <TwistedLucidity> ujjain: I just made a basic one up myself.
[11:43] <TwistedLucidity> There's a few template about, but they're all terrible IMHO
[11:43] <ujjain> ah, I just finished mine, but if you could share some of yours
[11:43] <ujjain> I'm not an English native
[11:43] <ujjain> I just want to see if they are offering any compensation, I really spent too much time on it
[11:43] <ujjain> it* getting things right with this organisation, they ended up closing my bank account lol, without informing me, after many hours phone calls etc.
[11:44] <TwistedLucidity> Ah...compensation in that sense. OK, no. I have no file for that.
[11:44] <TwistedLucidity> I'd just create a simple table listing your costs and time.
[11:47] <ujjain> Yeah, but I called my phone company, they have no list of my phone calls, meh
[11:47] <ujjain> so my administration is pretty crappy anyway
[11:47] <ujjain> but I've written a letter, we'll see, I'm not going to have any expectations
[11:47] <ujjain> Last time I played on a casino, rented a car, did anything, I didn't expect the company to screw me for £1k, but still happened
[11:48] <ujjain> starting to dislike firefox, meh, performance sometimes really horrible
[11:58] <knightwise> hey everyone
[12:00] <TwistedLucidity> ujjain: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/39q6xt/some_useful_firefox_tips_to_fix_choppy_scrolling/
[12:01] <ujjain> sometimes it becomes unresponsive for a while these days, no way to find out which add-on, but add-ons seem even fine
[12:01] <Myrtti> sweet.
[12:20] <ujjain> hey, I want to postsomething on reddit and need english help
[12:20] <ujjain> Pilsner Urquell at the Vltava River in Prague http://i.imgur.com/mJDDfns.jpg
[12:21] <ujjain> is "at" the right word here?
[12:21] <ujjain> "near to" "next to"
[12:21] <ujjain> which preposition would be best
[12:23] <ujjain> maybe just Pilsner Urquell by the Vltava River in Prague, makes sense to me.
[12:23] <ujjain> prepositions are difficult.
[12:30] <TwistedLucidity> I'd use "beside". e.g. "Pilsner Urquell beside the Vltava River..."
[12:30] <TwistedLucidity> "next to" works as well
[12:41] <kjvarley> popey: You were right. The issue was with Nullmailer. This guide helped me fix it http://bigbrus.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/lots-of-dns-requests-from-ubuntu-1204.html Thanks for all your help :)
[12:41] <popey> sweet!
[13:22] <moreati> Request for a sanity check. On 15.04 please install silversearcher-ag; then run ag foo. Do you get the error "ERR: error in pthread_setaffinity_np(): Invalid argument"?
[13:23] <popey> (on 15.10 I don't)
[13:35] <ujjain> ah besides
[15:54] <ujjain> should positive balances be on my credit report?
[15:54] <ujjain> my lloyds shows as £0 for the last 15 months
[15:57] <moreati> FTR that error is peculiar to my laptop. Best guess is it's because I'm running kernel 4.1rc1
[15:57] <intrbiz> ujjain: credit report should just show how much you owe I think
[15:58] <ujjain> ah ok, I owe nothing, still nobody wants to give me a cc
[16:13] <popey> moreati: oh, likely yes. probably some kernel option we have in our kernels which aren't in the default kernel
[16:41] <moreati> The gory details https://github.com/ggreer/the_silver_searcher/issues/695
[16:42] <popey> out of interest, why that kernel?
[16:44] <moreati> It's a Macbook Pro (bad idea), I was getting unexplained freezes. They went away after I upgraded the kernel.
[16:56] <popey> ahhh
[16:56] <popey> reasonable
[17:49] <daftykins> telco support amuses me
[17:49] <daftykins> my client dropped his phone in the water again beside his boat
[17:49] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgjgw5ilnensuq1/o2support.png?dl=0
[17:49] <daftykins> already mentioned this but then O2 support is like "dial this to tell us your IMEI"
[17:49] <daftykins> lul
[17:51] <MartijnVdS> oops
[17:51] <daftykins> he's now one dropped in water phone per boat trip!
[17:51] <daftykins> +t
[17:52] <daftykins> *+at
[17:53] <zmoylan-pi> my brother had a drain unblocking business.  for ages they took his word that a phone dropped in a cesspit was lost.  but eventually they refused a replacement till he returned the 'damaged' phone.  so he cleaned it off as best he could and returned it.
[17:54] <zmoylan-pi> after one stinky phone was returned they never questioned a loss again :-)
[17:54] <daftykins> XD
[17:57] <popey> hah
[19:22]  * DJones wonders whether to report a bug against launchpad for spamming him with bug reports for a bug he didn't subscribe to, but because somebody marked it as a duplicate of a big he was interested in years ago, he now gets these bug emails
[19:22] <daftykins> :D
[19:23] <DJones> Even more frustrating is that the bug I was subscribed to was marked as closed
[19:36] <diddledan> DJones: I've got manymany emails from one particular bug that people keep insisting on commenting to say "it's still broke. fix it."
[19:37] <DJones> At least there's a link in the emails to unsubscribe ... thankfully
[20:14] <diddledan> lol "if anyone wants their vocons neuralised..." <-- love the linux voice guys
[21:35] <diddledan> so apparently people are upset that apple are using articles provided free of charge without paying for them: www.macrumors.com/2015/06/17/apple-news-publishers-opt-out
[21:35] <diddledan> my response is "you publish an rss feed but insist that nobody uses it?"
[21:38] <daftykins> whole lotta butthurt huh?
[21:38] <daftykins> that was a dead link for me btw o0
[21:38] <diddledan> if the publishers don't want apple using their data then perhaps the publisher should not publish it or at least not include it in a machine readable format
[21:44] <diddledan> oopsiedoodle
[21:44] <diddledan> bsod
[21:45] <diddledan> here's the correctified macrumors link: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/06/17/apple-news-publishers-email-opt-out/
[21:46] <diddledan> I missed -email
[21:46] <diddledan> it was handtopyed
[21:47] <daftykins> ty sir
[21:48] <daftykins> ah i love using this 'livestreamer' thing so i don't have to watch e.g. twitch feeds in horrible flash anymore ;D
[21:48] <daftykins> instead i can view it in the wonderful hardware accelerated player of my choice
[22:09] <diddledan> m0nkey_: having internet problems?
[22:10] <daftykins> seems so O_.
[22:14] <zmoylan-pi> ♪ you put the wifi in range ♫
[22:21] <diddledan> I say the next version of ubuntu should be free. Lets start a petition to FREE WILY.
[22:45] <diddledan> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/heinz-forced-to-apologise-after-qr-code-on-ketchup-bottle-linked-to-hardcore-porn-site-10327313.html
[22:55] <diddledan> WHEEEE
[22:55] <diddledan> netsplitftw!