[00:25] <histo> ?
[00:30] <kLoooa2> Hey
[00:30] <kLoooa2> Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will become one of them eventually
[00:30] <kLoooa2> . One of that statistics number. nothing more.
[00:31] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | kLoooa2
[00:31] <kLoooa2> and humans are ugly crap, they have blood, urine, feces, semen inside them
[00:31] <kLoooa2> they smell
[00:31] <kLoooa2> especially when they are old they smell bad
[00:31] <SchrodingersScat> !language | kLoooa2, also !guidelines
[00:32] <kLoooa2> ! Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will become one of them eventual
[00:32] <kLoooa2> ly. One of that statistics number. nothing more.
[00:33] <kLoooa2> ALL OF YOU WILL DIE I PROMISE YOU
[00:33] <kLoooa2> AND IT WILL BE PAINFUL DEATH
[00:33] <kLoooa2> THEN YOUR BODY GETS EATEN BY WORMS
[00:33] <SchrodingersScat> please, listen to the bot
[00:34] <kLoooa2> SchrodingersScat: you and your family will all be rotten in few hundreds years
[00:35] <SchrodingersScat> kLoooa2: hopefully it won't be that long, still !ot, although I doubt they want this there either...probably more an !ops situation.
[00:44] <d4rklit3> hey when i install apache2 with apt-get i don't seem to have the www-data user
[00:44] <d4rklit3> does it not create one?
[00:45] <Henk_> hi all!! I've got a problem( My application stops unexpectedly and asks to send an error report. Is there a way to somehow obtain info about all the reports sent by all the users?
[00:47] <intx> doesthe latest gparted on ubuntu live automatically align for SSDs, or do I need to do it manually?
[00:50] <unbroken> hey guys
[00:51] <unbroken> any moderators here currently ?
[00:52] <OerHeks> unbroken, some of them are, if you have a topic, please join #ubuntu-ops
[00:53] <OerHeks> or issue i mean
[00:53] <unbroken> ok thx
[00:57] <bjrohan> Hi all. I just upgraded from 14.04 to 15.04, now my wireless connection is considerably slower with 15.04 than it was with 14.04. It IS the upgrade, as my other system connected to the same access point with 14.04 is still getting the speed I used to get. What may be wrong?
[01:04] <darthanubis> that doesn't make sense on the face of it. Nothing could slow your wifi connection from an upgrade
[01:05] <darthanubis> you might to share how you are gaging "slower"?
[01:05] <darthanubis> gauging
[01:06] <bjrohan> darkbasic: On the 14.04 machine speedtest shows a 28ms ping, 8 download and 1 upload. 15.04 machine shows 135 ping 2 download and hardly any upload
[01:14] <darthanubis> nothing to do with your operating system
[01:15] <darthanubis> speedtest is not a reliable measure of anything
[01:15] <darthanubis> and did you upgrade to 14.10 first?
[01:15] <darthanubis> I don't believe you can hop a version
[01:16] <J5> hi everyone! First time ubuntu user here and linux user! :-) Ran into various strange issues but after several reinstalls of the OS I think its finally stable!!
[01:16] <darthanubis> good
[01:16] <darthanubis> congrats
[01:16] <J5> I tried several distros over the past 2 weeks and Ubuntu 15.04 is the only one that made my wireless card work.
[01:18] <J5> any recommendations on info I should go read or things I should install as a new user?
[01:19] <darthanubis> I'd make healthy use of Google.. Ubuntu well covered and supported
[01:19] <darthanubis> askubuntu
[01:20] <bjrohan> darthanubis: I did go from 14.04 to 14.10 to 15.04.  What i do know is that my 15.04 computer is significantly slower than it was before.
[01:20] <darthanubis> slower operationally, or just this speedtest result?
[01:21] <unbroken> guys is there any way to access grub or launch it from the dektop of  ubuntu 14.04.2
[01:21] <darthanubis> !grub
[01:21] <unbroken> im very new so asume i know nothing!
[01:22] <bjrohan> Just any internet interactions. Everything else is the same or faster (GIMP, Libreoffice, etc.)
[01:23] <darthanubis> did you reboot?
[01:23] <darthanubis> disable/enable wifi?
[01:23] <darthanubis> !mtr
[01:25] <bjrohan> darkbasic: Yes, and then did another update, then rebooted again
[01:25] <J5> hmm this is strange. Ubuntu softwarecenter, I have queued some items to install and after entering my root password the progress has frozen. Its stuck at downloaded 0 bytes of x total bytes.
[01:25] <darthanubis> have you tried to plug in the machine via cat5e/6 to isolate if it is just a wifi issue?
[01:28] <netameta_> how can i get skype to run on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[01:28] <darthanubis> install it
[01:28] <darthanubis> !skype
[01:29] <Bashing-om> unbroken: After the OS is started, the grub stage is left behind. What is your goal here ?
[01:30] <O_Andrew> Im getting a kernel panic every time i boot linux, and syslog says nothing when i boot into recovery, fsck says everything is ok
[01:31] <darthanubis> O_Andrew, run memtest
[01:31] <O_Andrew> It happens every time i boot my computer, 2-3 seconds after the login screen shows up
[01:31] <TJ-> O_Andrew: when the GUI starts?
[01:32] <O_Andrew> Yeh, soon after
[01:32] <TJ-> O_Andrew: Is it using a proprietary  video driver, Nvidia or AMD/ATI fglx ?
[01:32] <O_Andrew> I didnt touch the drivers or anything system-related
[01:33] <O_Andrew> The last thing i did to it was shut it down holding the powerbutton, since `shutdown -h now` doesnt work
[01:33] <TJ-> O_Andrew: I wonder if that module hasn't built correctly after a kernel update. There may be clues in one of the archived logs... check "/var/log/dmesg* and /var/log/kern.log - search those files for "panic" to begin with
[01:35] <darthanubis> O_Andrew, run memtest
[01:36] <O_Andrew> im searching the logs again, i will do that when i reboot
[01:36] <O_Andrew> grepping for 'panic' only has 'registered panic notifier' messages
[01:37] <TJ-> O_Andrew: if there's no log entries captured what I do is aim a video camera at the screen as it boots and capture the panic that way
[01:37] <O_Andrew> i have done that!
[01:37] <O_Andrew> actually it scrolls quite a bit
[01:37] <TJ-> O_Andrew: many times after a panic there's no way to safely write to the file-system
[01:38] <TJ-> O_Andrew: if you can grab a couple of freeze frames that capture the start of the panic message (about 10 lines prior) that'd be helpful
[01:40] <regedit> TJ-: hey
[01:40] <regedit> TJ-: PM?
[01:40] <TJ-> regedit: sure thing. I've been rebooting a few times to test kernel patches
[01:41] <O_Andrew> TJ-: its more like a couple hundred lines
[01:41] <O_Andrew> its a 1 second scroll
[01:41] <TJ-> O_Andrew: really? usually the panic has a preamble and the a stack trace ... are there multiple panics after the initial one?
[01:42] <O_Andrew> actually
[01:42] <O_Andrew> i think there might be
[01:44] <netameta_> Thanks for help darthanubis
[01:44] <netameta_> could anyone guess a reason why odesk wont take correct screenshots on a virtual host running ubuntu 14.04
[01:44] <O_Andrew> TJ-: http://postimg.org/image/6eisgjhh1/full/
[01:45] <darthanubis> netameta, yw
[01:47] <histo> necrogami: what is odesk?
[01:47] <histo> netameta: what is odesk?
[01:49] <TJ-> O_Andrew: can you get a snap from early than that... can't see the start of the panic there
[01:49] <darthanubis> freelanceing site
[01:49] <netameta> histo: odesk website for freelancer they have a time tracking software that take screenshots
[01:50] <histo> ahh
[01:50] <histo> netameta: you'd probably have to ask the odesk people
[01:52] <netameta> histo: Its not related to them
[01:52] <netameta> even when i take normal screenshot
[01:52] <netameta> regardless
[01:52] <netameta> the error(blank black page) appears
[01:53] <histo> netameta: try scrot
[01:53] <histo> netameta: what virtualization are you using?
[01:53] <netameta> I am not sure
[01:53] <netameta> but i know this ubuntu runs on a virtual host
[01:54] <netameta> i mean virtualbox
[01:54] <netameta> And i used all the toolkit things to fix the windows size and everything
[01:56] <histo> netameta: I'm not sure what is causing their issue with screenshots.  What are they using to take the screenshot?
[01:57] <netameta> histo: i will have to check
[01:58] <kLoooa2> Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will become one of them eventually
[01:58] <kLoooa2> . One of that statistics number. nothing more.
[01:59] <darthanubis> spam
[02:00] <O_Andrew> TJ-: I got something slightly different this time: http://postimg.org/image/7lemn3h81/full/ -- i also got a video, i will try to get the frame of the first lines
[02:01] <Osmodivs> Hello. When building a program, I am about to make install. how do I tell my machine that I want to access the program on my menu/graphics/
[02:01] <Osmodivs> ¿?
[02:03] <TJ-> O_Andrew: thanks; that last snap also didn't have the start of the panic on it :)
[02:06] <Fr3d3r1c> hello
[02:07] <ablest1980> hello
[02:07] <Fr3d3r1c> i have tried to created a symbolic link on a directory but after the creation, i can't access to the content of my directory
[02:08] <BuzzardBuzz> bummer
[02:08] <BuzzardBuzz> a symlink should not cause an issue with folder access
[02:09] <RNeville> having sound problems, booted a live Ubuntu DVD and sound worked, but not in my install of Ubuntu 14.04
[02:09] <BuzzardBuzz> but folder permissions might
[02:09] <Fr3d3r1c> visually, it's [sourceDirectory] -> [linkedDirectory] (i can't to the content)
[02:09] <Fr3d3r1c> access*
[02:10] <BuzzardBuzz> ok so your symlink needs to work betteris what you are hoping
[02:12] <BuzzardBuzz> so when you made the symlink did you get anindication of an error message?
[02:12] <Fr3d3r1c> yes
[02:12] <Fr3d3r1c> open for read: no such file or directory
[02:13] <Fr3d3r1c> it's a message from filezilla
[02:13] <Fr3d3r1c> but i have another error on notepad++ : Directory not opened(SFTP server: No such file)
[02:13] <O_Andrew> TJ-: after 3 tries, i got it! http://postimg.org/image/8ewgswdcl/full/
[02:13] <EriC^^> Fr3d3r1c: does the source directory exist and can you access it directly/
[02:13] <Fr3d3r1c> yes EriC^^
[02:14] <histo> Fr3d3r1c: what command are you typing to maek the sym link?
[02:14] <O_Andrew> TJ-:
[02:14] <Fr3d3r1c> ln -s sourcedirectory targeteddirectory
[02:15] <TJ-> O_Andrew: That's a bit hazy but I think I see "skb" in there, which is a Socket Buffer (networking). Any issues with the networking side, are Ethernet cables connected, is it using WiFi?
[02:15] <Gest46573> hello, does anyone know how to edit GTK3 themes? or a tutorial?
[02:16] <kLooaa> Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will become one of them eventually. O
[02:16] <kLooaa> ne of that statistics number. nothing more.
[02:16] <EllieGoulding> so im helping out someone in the brazillian ubuntu irc channel
[02:16] <Gest46573> I like clearlooks-phenix because it is high contrast, but i want to make it look flat & squared
[02:16] <EllieGoulding> what do you guys make of this
[02:16] <O_Andrew> TJ-: Damn the LCD pixel lag is so annoying at such high refreshes! No i only have Wifi
[02:16] <EllieGoulding> http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img537/7159/V5RZ1W.jpg
[02:16] <darthanubis> !op | kLooaa
[02:17] <BuzzardBuzz> what emergency>
[02:17] <TJ-> O_Andrew: as an experiment are you able to disable WiFi radio with a hardware kill switch, and then try booting?
[02:17] <kLooaa> BuzzardBuzz: house is on fire
[02:18] <BuzzardBuzz> ok should i put it out with my trusty can of gasoline?
[02:18] <darthanubis> kick the abuser of the channel for spamming? BuzzardBuzz
[02:18] <BuzzardBuzz> ok
[02:20] <O_Andrew> TJ-: i used the killswitch, the wifi tried to come back online a few times but i persisted, and the machine didnt crash! i tried logging in but now X dies as soon as i enter the password and takes me back to login screen
[02:21] <TJ-> O_Andrew: That could be progress of a sort then
[02:21] <O_Andrew> TJ-: im running to the logs!
[02:21] <TJ-> O_Andrew: try login as a guest
[02:22] <TJ-> O_Andrew: the login issue may be unrelated to the kernel panic; probably the $HOME/.Xauthority file needs deleting
[02:23] <TJ-> O_Andrew: check the logs in "/var/log/lightdm/"   especially lightdm.log - that should show if the greeter hands over to a user login session
[02:24] <O_Andrew> TJ-: indeed syslog was complaining something was wrong about .Xauthority, i removed it and now X didn't crash, im logged in! Syslog also complained about not being able to connect to the bus!
[02:24] <O_Andrew> but thats probably due to xauthority
[02:25] <O_Andrew> TJ-: may i PM you?
[02:26] <RNeville> had audio working, then quit, but works under live Ubuntu 14.04 DVD, My install is Ubuntu 14.04 any help appreciated
[02:27] <TJ-> EllieGoulding: see https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85931
[02:27] <TJ-> O_Andrew: best to keep support in the channel so others can chip in, plus I have to reboot in a few moments to do some kernel tests
[02:30] <EllieGoulding> TJ thanks
[02:30] <BuzzardBuzz> fr3d3rlc: did you fix your symlink issue ok?
[02:40] <gajni> help me how to add kali  ppa in ubuntu
[02:47] <kernix> hey all
[02:49]  * robbix throws coffee in his face to wake up this morning
[02:59] <reggie_> hey folks does the latest version of xfce support window snapping?
[03:00] <histo> robbix: you're supposed to drink it
[03:00] <histo> !info xfce4
[03:00] <robbix> That's what they want you to believe histo. This technique actually works better and at half the cost.
[03:00]  * robbix loves xfce
[03:01] <histo> reggie_: trying to remember what version they added it
[03:02] <histo> reggie_: I know 4.12 have is
[03:03] <reggie_> Thanks histo
[03:03] <reggie_> guess I have to figure how to activate
[03:07] <histo> reggie_: you don't activate it in 4.12 it just works
[03:07] <histo> reggie_: what do you mean by snapping?
[03:07] <Gest46573> tiling
[03:08] <reggie_> histo when you drag window to edge and it resizes to fit maybe half the screen
[03:08] <reggie_> I am running ubuntu respin (voyager) in a VM for a programming class and it will not do it
[03:08] <reggie_> don't have this issue with other distros histo
[03:08] <histo> reggie_: yeah that works. but you probably have 4.10 installed which doesn't have it
[03:09] <reggie_> hummm let me check
[03:09] <histo> reggie_: dpkg -l | grep xfce4
[03:09] <reggie_> that would be something
[03:10] <histo> reggie_: probably 4.10 since ubuntu repos have 4.10
[03:10] <Gest46573> u can also right click to the panel to see the version
[03:10] <reggie_> yea it's version 4.11.0
[03:11] <reggie_> dammit
[03:11] <reggie_> this is a huge hassle for me
[03:11] <reggie_> is there a repo with latest version
[03:12] <Gest46573> what is a hassle, tiling/snap works on old xfce versions also
[03:12] <reggie_> ohh how doyou make it work?
[03:13] <Gest46573> settings > windows-manager > advanced > windows-snapping:check
[03:13] <reggie_> one sec
[03:13] <Gest46573> also, is easier if u have workspaces set to 1, i think
[03:13] <Gest46573> hello, does anyone know how to edit GTK3 themes? or a tutorial? to make the highligh-selection look flat
[03:14] <reggie_> huh... Gest46573 that option in't there
[03:14] <reggie_> ahh let me change number of worspace then
[03:15] <histo> reggie_: first option there in 4.12
[03:15] <reggie_> lol thanks histo, so how do I bump this up to 4.12
[03:16] <Gest46573> reggie_: RTFM ;)  http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/preferences
[03:16] <histo> reggie_: http://i.imgur.com/Ub5JejG.jpg
[03:16] <Gest46573> reggie_:  http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/preferences
[03:17] <histo> Gest46573: please don't tell people rtfm in here
[03:18] <Gest46573> histo:  hey bro, i put a smiley face, and the exact link to it.  it was helpful, not an insult
[03:18] <histo> reggie_: Does yours look the same as mine?
[03:18] <reggie_> Thanks guy much appreciated, and no worries histo I am not offended
[03:18] <reggie_> I got it to work by cutting workspaces down to 1
[03:18] <Gest46573> i didnt see any one else, send the EXACT link to the Manual page ;)
[03:19] <reggie_> Gest46573, thanks for the help but dude tone it down man, if you get bent out of shape helping maybe just don't do it :)
[03:20] <Gest46573> reggie_:  ur welcome, now teach ur friends
[03:20] <histo> reggie_: you'll be glad to know in future versions you can still keep your workspaces
[03:20] <Gest46573> reggie_:  Okay, i'll say RTM next time without the F, but then no one knows what that means  lol
[03:20] <reggie_> btw histo
[03:21] <B0g4r7> Robert T Morris obviously.
[03:21] <reggie_> it looks the same as what you showed me but there is no label at the top of advanced tab that says Window snapping
[03:21] <reggie_> weird
[03:22] <JinjaNinja> Any reason why my computer screen pixelates every time I log into my computer? It's just brief pixelation and then my desktop comes up.
[03:23] <svetlana> depends on the desktop
[03:29] <davers> ok
[03:29] <abaddon> anyone know a text editor for ubuntu which supports folding. Not a programming ide but just a text editor
[03:30] <davers> ok
[03:30] <davers> not ok
[03:31] <davers> bye
[03:36] <Bedffe> Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will become one of them eventua
[03:36] <Bedffe> lly. One of that statistics number. nothing more.
[03:39] <mode9> Bedffe, damn dude.
[03:39] <mode9> LOL.
[03:40] <abaddon> yea none of that helps me with the folding editor problem though
[03:43] <Otitf> Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what wa
[03:43] <Otitf> ys DAILY. You will become one of them eventually. One of that statistics number. nothing more.,
[03:43] <calher> I uninstalled NetworkManager and all desktop-related stuff and now I can't get internet on the system on my disk.  I plugged it into ethernet cable but connection did not return.  Any suggestions?
[03:43] <Otitf> Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what wa
[03:43] <Otitf> ys DAILY. You will become one of them eventually. One of that statistics number. nothing more./
[03:44] <calher> Otitf is bumming me out.
[03:44] <Otitf> calher: death is coming
[03:46] <mode9> OMG.
[03:46] <mode9> Scary.
[03:46] <danes> hello I just installed ubuntu server on a laptop just to setup a local nas at home. I dont have a gui as I intend to ssh into it. My problem is when I close the lid it goes to standby. Is there a way to stop it from the terminal?
[03:49] <regedit> Jordan_U: ping
[03:50] <ant4t> danes: you basically want to setup a power plan?
[03:50] <danes> ant4t   yes
[03:52] <ant4t> danes: im pretty sure you need to create a power plan script, then implement using sudo pm-powersave but hang on
[03:52] <ant4t> im willing to be there is an easier way to do it
[03:57] <ant4t> use the xset command
[03:57] <ant4t> and use the help, if will give you the options for screen saver
[03:57] <ant4t> xset s off turns off... i think
[03:57] <ant4t> im going to check them right now.
[03:58] <ant4t> so just to be clear, you want the sceen to shut off, but to stay powered on/not go to standby correct?
[03:58] <danes> ant4t: thanks
[03:59] <largefarva> ryper
[03:59] <largefarva> mistype >.<
[04:02] <regedit> anyone familiar with EFI shell? (in this case Phoenix ShellFlash SecureCore Tiano) i'm trying to flash the bios but getting an error
[04:02] <calher> How do I get ethernet on Ubuntu? I plugged the cable in and it doesn't work.
[04:02] <calher> I don't have a desktop shell.
[04:02] <ant4t> if you look at the xset helpfile you will prolly find hthe command you need
[04:03] <svetlana> run `ifconfig' and `dmesg' and pastebin output
[04:03] <calher> svetlana: How do I pastebin output when my only computer , thta computer, has no internet?
[04:03] <calher> (or this computer)
[04:03] <svetlana> use pastebinit program
[04:04] <st_d3vil> Use camera :-)
[04:04] <BuzzardBuzz> use magic
[04:04] <Braden`> Hello!
[04:04] <BuzzardBuzz> hello
[04:04] <Braden`> I just did a normal package update, and all of a sudden my close, minimize, and maximize buttons have disappeared from gnome shell
[04:04] <Braden`> Using Ubuntu 15.04
[04:05] <BuzzardBuzz> so that sounds like a neat trick
[04:05] <Braden`> Its very distressing
[04:05] <BuzzardBuzz> maybe your theme got switched?
[04:05] <st_d3vil> apt-get -f install ?
[04:05] <abaddon> https://github.com/aeischeid/gedit-folding
[04:05] <Braden`> st_d3vil:  No, I haven't forced anything
[04:05] <abaddon> in case anyone else was looking for a folding text editor
[04:06] <calher> i cant pastebin without internet
[04:06] <Braden`> BuzzardBuzz:  How do I check that?
[04:06] <hgeekf> Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what w
[04:06] <hgeekf> ays DAILY. You will become one of them eventually. One of that statistics number. nothing more.,
[04:06] <BuzzardBuzz> erm is that a spammer?
[04:06] <Braden`> hgeekf:  How is that relevant to Ubuntu?
[04:06] <hgeekf> nope
[04:06] <hgeekf> no spam!
[04:06] <hgeekf> Braden`: ubuntu people DIE
[04:06] <hgeekf> ubuntu users
[04:06] <BuzzardBuzz> that guy is irritating
[04:07] <calher> hgeekf: stop giving me a stomach ache
[04:07] <Braden`> hgeekf:  Its a troubling statistic :-)
[04:07] <BuzzardBuzz> ok so your theme has not changed but your buttons are gone?
[04:07] <Braden`> At any rate
[04:07] <Braden`> I changed the theme and then changed it back
[04:07] <calher> i dont have a camera and my computer wont have internet when I need to paste output
[04:07] <Braden`> Still same issue
[04:08] <coolmadmax> Braden`, use 'gnome-tweak-tool'
[04:09] <BuzzardBuzz> well there are some with different button arrangments but you yield no buttons anyway?
[04:09] <hgeekf> Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will become one
[04:09] <hgeekf>  of them eventually. One of that statistics number. nothing more.
[04:09] <BuzzardBuzz> ban the spammer :)
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> !ops | hgeekf
[04:09] <hgeekf> !ops | Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will bec
[04:09] <hgeekf> ome one of them eventually. One of that statistics number. nothing more.
[04:10] <histo> ?
[04:10] <hgeekf> !ops | Do you realize that basically after age 20 your body starts rotting, being worse and worser at everything? and that includes your brain too? you will eventually be stupid and naive just like children. or worse - you can get alzheimer's disease.  If you are alive now, I guarantee you that you will die eventually. And it can be really painful dying. Just read news or statistics how many people die in what ways DAILY. You will bec
[04:10] <hgeekf> ome one of them eventually. One of that statistics number. nothing more.
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Drone`: tnx :p
[04:11] <BuzzardBuzz> thank you Drone
[04:12] <Sax> Who was that :/
[04:13] <O_jumbo> oe
[04:14] <Sax> And he got K-lined.
[04:14]  * Sax slowclap
[04:14] <BuzzardBuzz> Braden' did you figure out how to fix it?
[04:15] <Braden`> BuzzardBuzz:  Not yet.  Still reading about it via google
[04:15] <regedit> anyone familiar with EFI shell? i'm trying to flash the bios but getting an error
[04:17] <Bashing-om> calher: Is your /etc/network/interfaces fole similar http://paste.ubuntu.com/11733811/ to mine ?
[04:17] <Bashing-om> fole/file*
[04:18] <danes> ant4t: this scripts is executed when closing the lid /etc/acpi/lid.sh - in case you wonder :)
[04:18] <BuzzardBuzz> your board may support flashing inside the bios, if it does that is probably easier
[04:18] <danes> is there any speech recognition project for linux?
[04:18] <calher> Bashing-om: I don't know if it's similar.  I can't boot into it to find out.  I'm running a live system on the same computer to talk to you.
[04:19] <Braden`> gnome-tweak-tool has no items under the section labeled "menubar"
[04:19] <calher> I guess I could decrypt my disk and look at the file.  Let me get my key...
[04:20] <Bashing-om> calher: K .
[04:22] <coolmadmax> Braden`, use gnome-tweak-tool windows->titlebar buttons make on min & max
[04:28] <calher> Bashing-om: I don't have the last two lines.
[04:30] <Braden`> Checking
[04:30] <Bashing-om> calher: OK, no GUI right ? No Network-Manager right ? so does this file exist " /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf " .. Then we adress the missing fields .
[04:31] <Braden`> Titlebar buttons section has no items in it
[04:31] <Braden`> There is nothing to select
[04:33]  * calher visits <file:///etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf>.
[04:34] <calher> Bashing-om: Correct: no GUI.  Correct: No NetworkManager.  Correct: file exists.
[04:34] <Bashing-om> calher: managed=false <- Default setting, such that NetworkManager controls networking, when set "managed=true" then "/etc/network/interfaces" file is used for control.
[04:35] <Braden`> Installing another round of updates
[04:35] <Braden`> Hopefully one of them fixes the problem
[04:35] <Bashing-om> calher: ^^ in the file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.con .
[04:35] <Bashing-om> conf*
[04:37] <calher> s/managed=false/managed=true
[04:38] <Bashing-om> calher: OK, now what is the interface nmae ' ifconfig ' ?
[04:38] <Braden`> What has happened to me seriously hasn't happened to anyone else?
[04:38] <Bashing-om> name*
[04:39] <calher> Bashing-om: I'm not on the system.  I can't give ifconfig output for the system.
[04:39] <calher> NetworkManager.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11733856/
[04:40] <calher> interfaces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11733861/
[04:42] <Bashing-om> calher: Let's "assume" the interface is identifies as "eth0" .. add those last 2 lines as per my output for "/etc/network/interfaces" amd make "eth1" as "eth0" . save the file and boot onto the install .. is netwotking now picked up ?
[04:45] <Bashing-om> calher: This is to set a wired connection !!
[04:45] <calher> Bashing-om: I want to temporarily use this wired connection to get WiFi back.
[04:46] <calher> Uh-oh, I didn't edit as root.
[04:48] <johnf--> hi hope this isn't to out there, but I'm getting undefined symbols trying to link against cgraph part of the graphviz pkg when I run nm -D I see the symbols any hints?
[04:49] <calher> Files edited, Bashing-om.
[04:49] <johnf--> I typically run fedora where it seems to link no problem so I was sort of hoping someone might have a clue where ubuntu/fedora would differ here.
[04:50] <Bashing-om> calher: Boot into the install .. once we have wired working .. update/upgrade the system and maybe WIFI will then work ??
[04:51] <calher> Rebooting.
[04:52] <b9> *el lo*
[05:01] <calher> Bashing-om: Back.
[05:01] <Bashing-om> calher: And ?? We up ?
[05:01] <calher> Ethernet works.  Yes.
[05:01] <grim789> This is sweet i never knew about IRC Chat till the other night :p
[05:01] <calher> grim789: Where do you live?
[05:01] <grim789> US Kentucky
[05:02] <calher> Bashing-om: How do I switch to WiFi?
[05:02] <grim789> I just started learning Linux last couple of weeks i tried my hand at python first mistake like heiroglyphs haha
[05:02] <Bashing-om> calher: Great ! .. ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' done ?
[05:03] <calher> oh shit.  i didnt use tmux
[05:03] <calher> new tty!
[05:03] <calher> lol
[05:03] <goju> I have never used wine but have installed it by typing $ sudo apt-get install steam wine winetricks. Now I have wine in the ubuntu search but  unable to launch it. does wine work in background ?
[05:04] <goju> Wine updated itself also after I first launched it
[05:04] <calher> Bashing-om: First command succeeded.
[05:05] <goju> Sorry i am talking of Steam...my steam does not launch
[05:05] <grim789> Anyone know how to remove Precise from terminal im using chrouton Ubuntu  on a chromebook i tried ~/.bashrc command i found on ubuntu forums but couldn't get it to work? I did use sudo first.
[05:06] <calher> Ugh!  The router is in my mom's room and she needs to go to bed.  I don't know if I can finish...
[05:06] <goju> I have never used steam but installed it on ubuntu 15.04 by the command $ sudo apt-get install steam wine winetricks. But steam does not launch
[05:06] <calher> I've been trying to get the router out of bedrooms but they won't listen.
[05:07]  * regedit tries to fend off mandatory innuendos on calher's message...
[05:07] <Bashing-om> calher: There is always tomorrow . I do expect to make an addition  for wiress similar to what we did for 'eth0' .
[05:08] <Bashing-om> wireless *
[05:08] <calher> Bashing-om: hope to at least DL this stuff.
[05:10] <Bashing-om> calher: Depending on the interface speed. may take a bit to complete the full-upgrade . MAke sure it completes are you will be in a world of hurt !
[05:10] <calher> uh-oh
[05:10] <calher> i may have to leave my laptop in her room?
[05:10] <calher> i think my laptop sleeps when it closes so i cant close it to hide the light from the screen
[05:11] <Bashing-om> calher: Get the system updated then pick this back up tomorrow .
[05:11] <calher> Bashing-om: Right.  I'm trying.
[05:13] <calher> away
[05:14] <Bashing-om> calher: The updates completed ?
[05:20] <Braden`> I just did a normal package update, and all of a sudden my close, minimize, and maximize buttons have disappeared from gnome shell.  Gnome-tweak-tool has no options under Windows->Title Bar Buttons (there are zero options).  If anyone could help me fix this, I would greatly appreciate it.  I am using Ubuntu 15.04 Gnome Shell Compiz
[05:21] <Braden`> Yet under Metacity, it works fine.  Why not under Compiz?
[05:27] <calher> Bashing-om: Done.
[05:28] <Bashing-om> calher: Good. Do we quit for the night .. or ?
[05:28] <calher> Maybe go on, Bashing-om
[05:29] <Bashing-om> calher: OK, install the pastbinit tool : 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit ' so I can see command outputs .
[05:30] <Bashing-om> !paste | calher
[05:31] <BuzzardBuzz> Braden': http://blog.christosoft.de/2015/06/ubuntu-gnome-minimize-buttons-missing-vivid-upgrade/
[05:34] <calher> Bashing-om: Installing...
[05:35] <calher> uh-oh. irssi isn't in my tmux so i cant paste
[05:35] <calher> paste urls
[05:35] <calher> pastebinit installed. Bashing-om
[05:36] <Bashing-om> calher: ' ifconfig | pastebinit ' . see if the WIFI is seen .
[05:37] <calher_tmux> Bashing-om: On tmux. Can paste URIs.
[05:37] <calher_tmux> Bashing-om: pastebinit installed.
[05:38] <Bashing-om> calher_tmux: R; run ' ifconfig | pastebinit ' and pass back the resulting URL .
[05:39] <Braden`> I just did a normal package update, and all of a sudden my close, minimize, and maximize buttons have disappeared from gnome shell.  Gnome-tweak-tool has no options under Windows->Title Bar Buttons (there are zero options).  If anyone could help me fix this, I would greatly appreciate it.  I am using Ubuntu 15.04 Gnome Shell Compiz.  It works fine under Metacity, but not under Compiz.  Why?
[05:40] <calher> Bashing-om: $ ifconfig | pastebinit
[05:40] <calher> Bad API request, invalid api_dev_key
[05:40] <calher> $
[05:40] <histo> calher: ifconfig | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:40] <calher> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/3fiu
[05:41] <Bashing-om> calher: Look'n at your http://termbin.com/3fiu .
[05:41] <paul_> Are the ubuntu repositories down?  it says "failed to download package files, check your intenert connection"
[05:41] <paul_> internet
[05:42] <cfhowlett> paul_, test an alternate mirror
[05:42] <histo> paul_: looks up to me
[05:42] <calher> paul_: Can you visit the URI in your browser?  (One of the things being fetched.)
[05:42] <Bashing-om> calher: Bridged WIFI ?? What returns ' iwconfig ' ?
[05:43] <paul_> I'll check
[05:44] <calher> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/cx8c
[05:45] <paul_> The requested URL /ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_3.2.0-85.122_i386.deb was not found on this server.
[05:45] <paul_> 4 other similar lines
[05:46] <paul_> I'll check mirrors
[05:46] <Bashing-om> calher: OK, identifies as wlan0 . make a back up of " /etc/network/interfaces " and we add the WIFI interfecr to it .
[05:47] <calher> Bashing-om: Command --
[05:47] <calher> $ cat /etc/network/interfaces > ~/Downloads/interfaces_backup.txt
[05:48] <calher> $
[05:49] <PCatinean> How do I close a port from outside and keep it open only for localhost?
[05:49] <PCatinean> So people doing external_ip/domain.com : port will get a connection refused and locally it works
[05:49] <PCatinean> ?
[05:49] <Bashing-om> calher: I would ' sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces-18jun2015 ' .
[05:50] <calher> Bashing-om: $ sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces-18jun201
[05:56] <Bashing-om> calher: Ok in text editor add 3 lines 1) # The Wireless network interface 2) auto wlan0 3) iface wlan0 inet dhcp . Save the file, power the system down (sudo shutdown -h now ), disconnect the wired cable, boot back up with the WIFI switch "on" . Does WIFI now work ?
[05:58] <markithoos> holaaa
[06:01] <calher> Bashing-om: Lines added.  File saved.  Powering off...
[06:09] <Turnip_Green> Need some help with USBs.  Did an upgrade a few days ago (new hardware which subsequently finally allowed me to get a 64 bit OS installed) but now my USBs are wonky.  Seems only the 3.0s in the rear of system are working and none of my 2.0s are working.  Any ideas?
[06:14] <paul_> histo, that particular file/package (linux image ..-54) was missing from official repositories but I switched to Uoforegon one and it works fine....wonder why
[06:15] <paul_> is it recommended to use a mirror server close to me, rather than official server for security and recommended updates?
[06:23] <calher> Bashing-om: Booted system. No WiFi.
[06:24] <calher> Bashing-om: (Ping to example.net failed.)
[06:26] <calher> Bashing-om: Was I supposed to comment the lines about ethernet?
[06:28] <Bashing-om> calher: Sorry then, getting out of my depth and pay grade . But . what returns when on WIFI ' sudo iwlist wlan scan ' ? And no, mo other commenting ; I had expected it to work .
[06:28] <Bashing-om> wlan0*
[06:34] <PCatinean> Can someone help me setup my ip tables so I refuse connection from outside on certain ports?
[06:34] <calher> Bashing-om: Okay, thanks for trying to help. Why do you want to know the output to that command? To give you its output, I would have to decrypt my disk, remove/comment the last two lines of "interfaces", reboot, walk to the other end of the dwelling, walk into someone's bedroom while they sleep, plug in power cable, plug in ethernet cable, power on machine, enter GRUB shell, decrypt disk, point to volume, type a long command, point 
[06:34] <calher> pt the disk, and then log in
[06:37] <Bashing-om> calher: Nawww .. that much bother, no good reason. See : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Connections ; see if that helps. I am done for this session, maybe I see ya tomorrow ?
[06:38] <calher> Bashing-om: Yeah, I figured I should ask before I did something so strenuous this late at 01:33. Thanks for the link; will read. I'll be here tomorrow.
[06:39] <PCatinean> HELLOOOO
[06:39] <Bashing-om> calher: K. later .
[06:42] <goju> I am unable to connect to my DSL service plz help
[06:42] <goju> Currently I am connect by a Wifi data card
[06:44] <PCatinean> there is nothing I can do after doing iptables -A INPUT -j DROP
[06:44] <PCatinean> and logging off accidentaly
[06:44] <johnf--> anyone get the 'log out' transparent window stuck on the screen. new feature after upgrading.
[06:44] <goju> I have doubly checked the username and password of my DSL connection that I have created by it refuses to get connected
[06:46] <goju> Plz help
[06:46] <goju> PCatinean : can you help me ?
[06:46] <PCatinean> Sorry I have no knowledge in that area :(
[07:09] <mach20x> here is a picture of the snow on my screen as my graphic malfunctions on an ubuntu 15.04 destop. http://imgur.com/KVcRO89
[07:13] <OerHeks> And what GPU is failing, mach20x ?
[07:14] <mach20x> it's a radeon HD 3650, RV635 designation if I'm not mistaken
[07:15] <PCatinean> How does one configure his iptables so certain ports refuse connection alltogether?
[07:15] <bazhang> try #netfilter PCatinean
[07:16] <OerHeks> mach20x,  that old, i guess you have to do with the open driver.
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[07:16] <mach20x> I have two of them running on my rig, one for each monitor shown here (even though I can run both of them on just one...4 screen possible altogether)
[07:16] <PCatinean> ah ok, thanks
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[07:16] <mach20x> no HDMI on the open driver I think
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[07:17] <mach20x> plus I uninstalled the fglrx and it has come to this
[07:17] <OerHeks> mach20x, but tearing is not nice, try to reset the monitor with its own menu, maybe that helps
[07:18] <mach20x> when I uninstalled HDMI still worked (mind you it froze sometimes
[07:18] <OerHeks> mach20x, odd, fglrx should not have worked, so uninstall should give no difference
[07:20] <mach20x> maybe I installed it twice
[07:20] <mach20x> how can I be sure to strip it completely
[07:21] <EriC^^> how did you install it?
[07:23] <mach20x> used this command the first time " sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle "
[07:23] <EriC^^> and the second time?
[07:23] <mach20x> the same command
[07:24] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[07:24] <mach20x> then I uninstalled using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[07:25] <mach20x> followed the instructions, but there was no xorg.conf and the " sudo amdconfig --adapter=all --initial " yielded a "no adapters" output
[07:25] <crazyhorse18> i'd like to write a script to install multiple packages.. is there anyway i can have them on multiple lines?
[07:26] <kenedy_cuong> hi
[07:27] <kenedy_cuong> O
[07:27] <OerHeks> mach20x, sounds good, as the driver was not in use, use the command EriC^^ gave you, and you'll be fine
[07:28] <mach20x> crazyhorse18: string each CLI command with a "  ;" tail/suffix to the end of each line perhaps that will suffice
[07:28] <EriC^^> crazyhorse18: sudo apt-get install \ .. something \ , something \, etc. on each line
[07:29] <crazyhorse18> mach20x, tired ,, dint' work
[07:29] <crazyhorse18> EriC^^, tried that too
[07:29] <EriC^^> crazyhorse18: that should work
[07:29] <crazyhorse18> but when i copy and paste that into the console
[07:29] <crazyhorse18> it breaks
[07:29] <EriC^^> be sure to put a space between something and \
[07:30] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install <a> && sudo apt-get install <b> && sudo apt-get install <c>
[07:30] <crazyhorse18> yeah maybe that's easiest
[07:30] <mach20x> EriC^^: this was my output using that command http://paste.ubuntu.com/11734245/
[07:30] <EriC^^> crazyhorse18: that would have to call apt-get a bunch of times..
[07:31] <EriC^^> use something \ something \ ...
[07:31] <EriC^^> paste the script you're writing if you need help
[07:31] <mach20x> I'm currently using ubuntu in recovery mode if that makes a difference
[07:31] <crazyhorse18> EriC^^, i can't access github at the moment. so bit hard to paste
[07:32] <EriC^^> cat script | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:32] <OerHeks> mach20x, totally clean, no package at all, as espected
[07:32] <crazyhorse18> ahh nm ubuntu pastebin works
[07:32] <EriC^^> mach20x: is xserver-xorg-video-ati installed?
[07:34] <mach20x> when I boot normal the image I showed is what results
[07:35] <EriC^^> type dpkg -l | grep "video-ati\|radeon"
[07:35] <mach20x> tried to ls -i , and got this; ls: cannot access xserver-xorg-video-ati: No such file or directory
[07:36] <mach20x> only see a carrot ">"
[07:36] <EriC^^> make sure the last " is there
[07:38] <mach20x> here's the return output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11734268/
[07:38] <EriC^^> ok, both are installed
[07:39] <EriC^^> you could try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-{ati,radeon}
[07:39]  * ObrienDave waves from Win7ville ;P
[07:39] <EriC^^> if you want
[07:40] <crazyhorse18> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11734275/
[07:40] <crazyhorse18> ok this almost owkrs
[07:40] <mach20x> I'll try it
[07:40] <crazyhorse18> the perl bit works.. just need to pipe it to apt-get install
[07:41] <crazyhorse18> do you always have to go   something | pipes-to-this
[07:41] <crazyhorse18> or can you get pipes-to-this << something
[07:42] <trijntje_> I was testing some packages in chroot. After exiting the chroot I could not unmount chroot/proc, so I rebooted the pc. Now the boot hangs with http://imgur.com/dse2vUS What can I do to fix this?
[07:42] <mach20x> here's the tail output of that command http://paste.ubuntu.com/11734285/
[07:43] <EriC^> crazyhorse18: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11734284/
[07:43] <EriC^> use something like that ^
[07:43] <mach20x> the grep command you referred me yielded the same output
[07:43] <crazyhorse18> can i get the perl one working?  because then i don't have to worry about newlines etc
[07:44] <crazyhorse18> i'm not sure about other linux piping options.. i only know >
[07:44] <macopython> I have plugged in my Nexus 5 in my ubuntu system. How can i get UUID of it ?
[07:44] <ShotChain> How would one go about migrating from one linux distro to another
[07:45] <ObrienDave> ShotChain, from which to which?
[07:45] <ShotChain> Ubuntu to Elementary OS
[07:45] <ObrienDave> easiest way is to install from LiveDVD
[07:46] <ShotChain> No DVD drive :(
[07:46] <ObrienDave> and why, oh why, would you want to do that?
[07:46] <mach20x> will reboot and see what happens
[07:47] <ObrienDave> ok, use unetbootin or yumi to make live USB stick. boot stick. install that way
[07:47] <ShotChain> Um well I didn't have a lot of money
[07:47] <ShotChain> So I bought the computer without the CD drive
[07:47] <OerHeks> ShotChain, so how did you install elementary ?
[07:47] <crazyhorse18> EriC^, got it working   "perl -pe 's/\s+/ /g' <<EOF | sudo apt-get install"
[07:48] <ObrienDave> ShotChain, you have USB ports, yes?
[07:48] <ShotChain> I'm trying to do so
[07:48] <ObrienDave> how did you install Ubuntu?
[07:48] <EriC^> crazyhorse18: ok, cool
[07:48] <ShotChain> USB
[07:48] <gnudon> How do i move all subdirectories from download folder to public folder without root access using ubuntu terminal? I tries rsync -avP ~/download /public with no luck
[07:48] <OerHeks> oh wait, ShotChain, you ask for elementary support ?
[07:48] <OerHeks> :-D
[07:48] <ObrienDave> ShotChain, ok, that will work for eOS
[07:49] <trijntje_> gnudon: you cant if root owns /public
[07:49] <EriC^> gnudon: why not?
[07:49] <EriC^> gnudon: do you have write access to /public?
[07:49] <ObrienDave> OerHeks, nah, he wants to migrate to eOS from Ubuntu
[07:49] <ObrienDave> why, is beyond me ;P
[07:49] <geirha> crazyhorse18: apt-get install doesn't read input as far as I know
[07:50] <crazyhorse18> geirha :(
[07:50] <geirha> crazyhorse18: how about this? http://sprunge.us/HAKP
[07:52] <crazyhorse18> geirha, that worked
[07:52] <crazyhorse18> very nice!
[07:52] <crazyhorse18> whats the ${packages[@] syntax ?
[07:52] <geirha> crazyhorse18: That's part of bash's array syntax
[07:53] <crazyhorse18> geira: interesting.. i'll check it out
[07:53] <crazyhorse18> thankyo
[07:54] <trijntje_> My ubuntu 14.04 hangs during boot. How can I fix this?
[07:54] <EriC^> crazyhorse18: geirha 's is nice and elegant, just throwing this out there, it worked too http://paste.ubuntu.com/11734312/
[07:54] <geirha> crazyhorse18: Check   /topic #bash   for resources on learning bash
[07:54] <kyr0> trijntje_: Do you see any error messages or just the splash screen?
[07:55] <geirha> EriC^: You don't need that cat though, just   xargs sudo apt-get ... << EOF   will do
[07:55] <macopython> I have plugged in my Nexus 5 in my ubuntu system. How can i get UUID of it ?
[07:55] <trijntje_> kyr0: If I boot with verbose I get http://imgur.com/dse2vUS
[07:56] <DJones> !uuid | macopython Hopefully this will help,
[07:56] <EriC^> geirha: cool, thanks!
[07:57] <macopython> ubottu, I tried that
[07:57] <gnudon> what is the best way if i have write acess
[07:57] <macopython> It shows my main disk and swap only
[07:57] <EriC^> gnudon: if you have write access rsync -av should work
[07:57] <linocisco> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11734249/
[07:58] <EriC^> gnudon: type id && ls -ld /public
[07:58] <gnudon> ok
[07:58] <kyr0> trijntje_: Did you happen to see this post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218100
[07:59] <kyr0> trijntje_: Also, are you running secure boot UEFI?
[08:01] <mach20x> It just keeps looking worse every time that I do a normal boot into the system
[08:01] <trijntje_> kyr0: I'll have  a go at disabling plymouth, thanks. I'm actually not sure if I have UEFI or not, what is the best way to check that?
[08:01] <kyr0> trijntje_: Because the reason it is not booting might be related to the tainting kernel messages instead of the plymouth messages.
[08:01] <mach20x> The tearing (as it was put) is even worse now
[08:02] <kyr0> trijntje_: I find checking the bios the most easy, if you are unable to boot into the ssytem. Good luck!
[08:02] <gnudon> own by root
[08:02] <EriC^> gnudon: and the permissions bit?
[08:03] <EriC^> d-rwx----....?
[08:03] <mach20x> cystal clear in VGA for fecovery mode (the resolution is not that great though)
[08:03] <trijntje_> kyr0: from the live cd I can see that /boot has no UEFI/efi stuf in it, so I guess I dont have UEFI enabled
[08:03] <ObrienDave> ok, going back to Xubuntu. back in a few
[08:03] <EriC^> !yay | ObrienDave
[08:04] <gnudon> when i click on your username it take me to private chat
[08:04] <EriC^> mach20x: did you try the fglrx-updates ?
[08:04] <macopython> anyone else ?
[08:04] <EriC^> gnudon: you can type the first few letters of the nickname and press tab for completion
[08:05] <mach20x> I used that command after I purged the first time
[08:05] <macopython> I have plugged in my Nexus 5 in my Ubuntu system. How can i get details like mount point, UUID of it ?
[08:05] <EriC^> mach20x: ok, you can use the drivers from the amd website i guess
[08:05] <EriC^> it's up to you
[08:06] <OerHeks> macopython, usually any mounted space will turn up under media, type 'mount' in the terminal to see info
[08:06] <kyr0> trijntje_: Yes, that is correct.
[08:06] <mach20x> I can give it  a try
[08:06] <trijntje_> kyr0: no luck with removing plymouth config
[08:06] <gnudon> EriC^, drwxrwxr-x
[08:06] <macopython> Ok OerHeks. THanks
[08:06] <trijntje_> as in: ubuntu still hangs during boot
[08:06] <EriC^> gnudon: ok, you don't have write access
[08:07] <gnudon> EriC^, thanks
[08:07] <mach20x> the linux 86_64 drivers work fine with ubuntu?
[08:07] <EriC^> gnudon: you can give your user write access alone using ACL if you don't want it to have write access for everyone
[08:07] <kyr0> trijntje_: Hm, then we have to start looking at those kernel taint messages.
[08:07] <mach20x> seems to be the option I get when I go there
[08:07] <OerHeks> EriC^, mach20x useless for that HD 3650, RV635
[08:08] <gnudon> EriC^, what is ACL?
[08:08] <macopython> OerHeks, I got output but none of them looks like my mobile phone.
[08:08] <mach20x> Access Control List
[08:08] <EriC^> OerHeks: ok, what do you suggest?
[08:08] <EriC^> gnudon: it's access control lists
[08:08] <trijntje_> kyr0: I'll try one more thing and then just reinstall, thats faster then figuring out whats wrong
[08:08] <macopython> OerHeks: its not in /media
[08:08] <kyr0> trijntje_: Is this a new computer, or did you have it for a while
[08:09] <gnudon> EriC^, list
[08:09] <OerHeks> EriC^, nothing but the open driver, that screentearing seems getting worse, dunno if that is a software thing or hardware/connector.
[08:09] <OerHeks> or fan
[08:09] <OerHeks> macopython, maybe you need the mtp tools?
[08:09] <trijntje_> kyr0: I've had it for a while, its a HP  Z420 workstation
[08:10] <macopython> Ohk
[08:10] <mach20x> I checked the connector, it doesn't appear that either of them are experiencing a faulty contact
[08:10] <macopython> I can see it in only lsusb output. No other command lists it
[08:10] <OerHeks> macopython, and make sure 'usb storage' is enabled > http://askubuntu.com/questions/461416/how-to-mount-nexus-4-to-14-04
[08:10] <mach20x> plus both screens are effected the same
[08:10] <kyr0> trijntje_: That module license CDDL tains kernel message, a lot of people have that issue i see.
[08:10] <kyr0> trijntje_: http://www.google.nl/search?q=module+license+cddl+taints+the+kernel&btnG=Zoeken&hl=nl&gbv=1
[08:12] <macopython> OerHeks: it gets detected but I want to know the details of it
[08:12] <mach20x> plus it is crystal clear in recovery mode as I said
[08:12] <EriC^> mach20x: did you try nomodeset? just a thought
[08:13] <mach20x> I did attempt that
[08:13] <trijntje_> kyr0: I've fixed it, it looks like it hung on an unrelated error in fstab. But that was masked since ubuntu switches vt halfway through the boot proces. I just noticed it when I rebooted with ctrl + alt + del and saw the fstab message as part of the shutdown messages
[08:13] <macopython> OerHeks: Even when I see properties of it, it doesn't show location. It shows mtp in volume
[08:13] <EriC^> gnudon: sudo setfacl -m u:<your user>:rwx /public , if you want your user to have rwx access to /public
[08:13] <mach20x> I just write it after "quiet splash      right?
[08:14] <kyr0> trijntje_: Sweet!
[08:14] <EriC^> mach20x: yeah
[08:15] <mach20x> no dice, still had the snow/tearing issue
[08:15] <gnudon> ok i will contact the host to do that
[08:15] <gnudon> EriC^, thanks
[08:15] <EriC^> no problem
[08:18] <EriC^> gnudon: there's also the sticky bit, like /tmp, if you set that then every user could create files but nobody could delete the other persons files
[08:19] <gnudon> most importantly is to move the content in the download to the public
[08:20] <EriC^> gnudon: ok, setfacl should do it, you'll be able to copy them whenever you need to
[08:20] <mach20x> is there anyway that I can get the HDMI running with the open drivers, if I formatted and installed 14.04.2?
[08:21] <macopython> OerHeks: Found it in  /run/user/1000/gvfs
[08:22] <gnudon> EriC^, you mean setfacl publicfolder?
[08:25] <EriC^> gnudon: this command sudo setfacl -m u:<your user>:rwx /public
[08:25] <gnudon> ok
[08:26] <gnudon> EriC^, remember i do not have root access, so permission will not allow that
[08:26] <EriC^> gnudon: yeah, you need to have root access to use setfacl on it
[08:27] <gnudon> EriC^, thanks
[08:27] <EriC^> after that, you can copy normally every time
[08:33] <yocapybara> guys. what's the goto intrusion detection system for ubuntu these days that comes most recommended?  Still tripwire?
[08:36] <alket> hi, im having a problem with apt-get in my work computer https://paste.kde.org/pxj7wk4kl , please help , thanks
[08:37] <PCatinean> Does anyone know why I can't wget http://localhost:8069 after setting this? http://hastebin.com/yoluloxova.vhdl
[08:39] <ikonia> PCatinean: localhost won't be blocked by a firewall
[08:39] <ikonia> although you've just told your firewall to block EVERYTHING
[08:40] <PCatinean> ikonia, woudn't the rule above hit first?
[08:40] <ikonia> I suspect localhost is not 127.0.0.1 on your machine
[08:40] <macopython> PCatinean: Have you tried same after disabling firewall so that you can be sure its due to firewall ?
[08:44] <PCatinean> ikonia, that's most probable
[08:45] <PCatinean> macopython, yes, once I remove the last rule which blocks all it works
[08:45] <PCatinean> From what I've read this is the best procedure, manage exceptions and refuse everything else
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: good morning
[08:49] <cfhowlett> evenin' lotuspsychje
[08:50] <macopython> Every file in a file system has one hard link by default. What does that mean ? Anyone ?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> macopython: can you explain what you mean please
[08:52] <gnudon> EriC^,  what command can i use to show .htacess from terminal?
[08:52] <cerry> gnudon: I like less, it's more than more :>
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> gnudon: or the 'whereis' command
[08:53] <agent_white> macopython: It means that a file points to physical disk space.  Changing the name of the file, still points to the same physical disk space.
[08:53] <cyberalex4life> macopython, this means that the things (files) linked are somewhere else. Hard links tend to be closer to original files beeind in there. I read somewhere that once a hard link is removed, it will also be removed the original file
[08:53] <agent_white> More importantly, it would be a good idea to see the difference between hardlinks and symlinks.
[08:55] <agent_white> Or just filesystem internals (inodes, etc...) in general. See http://www.tldp.org/LDP/tlk/fs/filesystem.html
[08:56] <macopython> cyberalex4life: right. That I know. But where is that default hard link is located ?
[08:56] <zack_s_> how can I update my time from the server via cmd line?
[08:56] <zack_s_> sudo ntpdate -u ntp.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <agent_white> macopython: Check out my links above.
[08:57] <zack_s_> no server suitable for synchronization found
[08:57] <zack_s_> I get
[08:57] <macopython> agent_white. Ok sure
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> !ntp | zack_s_
[08:57] <agent_white> zack_s_: Better to use pool.ntp.org. -- http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html
[09:01] <zack_s_> agent_white: this returns the same message
[09:02] <agent_white> zack_s_: Paste the output of "sudo ntpdate -dv pool.ntp.org"
[09:02] <agent_white> (into a pastie,pastebin,gist,etc...)
[09:04] <agent_white> zack_s_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/49401/unable-to-sync-time-using-ntpdate-error-no-server-suitable-for-synchronizat -- Follow the answer to this, minus the "tzdata" portion.
[09:06] <almost_tr00p> hello, I'm connected to wifi network and I'm trying to share that connection over ethernet to router. Do you have an idea how to do it?
[09:07] <almost_tr00p> My router is D-link DIR-501, and it shares connection ONLY over ethernet cable.
[09:10] <Johnny_Linux> if the router is ethernet only, you cant
[09:10] <dearn> You can do Internet -> PC with Wifi ----ethernet cable---> router -> rest of network
[09:10] <dearn> but it's just...
[09:10] <almost_tr00p> yes
[09:11] <almost_tr00p> that's what i wanted to do
[09:11] <almost_tr00p> want*
[09:11] <dearn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 then probably this will be enough
[09:11] <patrice__> Hello everybody !
[09:12] <patrice__> I have to intall ubuntu trusty with "crouton" on some chromebook. Sometimes, when i lauch "sudo startgnome" i get this error message : "(EE) Caught signal 11 (segmentation fault). Server aborting". So what could i do to avoid or repair this error ? Thanks for your help !
[09:12] <almost_tr00p> will it work when the wifi uses generate 204 for auth?
[09:12] <dearn> almost_tr00p: as long internet works on PC that shares wifi to router it will work
[09:12] <almost_tr00p> dearn: ok nice :]
[09:13] <dearn> but you will need both PC and Router running which is a terrible solution
[09:14] <Johnny_Linux> for sure
[09:26] <pnp108> test.
[09:27] <linocisco> my wget never works behind wpad proxy with authentication. I tried many manuals and referece on internet
[09:27] <linocisco> .ubuntu server is behind wpad proxy. I can create apt.conf and put some entries for http and apt proxy entries so apt-get commands work but wget never works
[09:27] <almost_tr00p> dearn: how do i configure the router then?
[09:29] <k1l_> linocisco: the apt.conf only works for apt. not for other programs
[09:29] <linocisco> k1l_, so how can I make wget work ??????
[09:30] <k1l_> linocisco: set it at /etc/wgetrc or in your home folder in .wgetrc
[09:31] <linocisco> k1l_, how to?  now it is in the middle of long process apt-get update && upgrade
[09:31] <zack_s_> agent_white: sorry I cannot copy paste content of my vmware shell running ubuntu
[09:31] <k1l_> linocisco: apt-get got nothing to do with wget
[09:31] <patrice__> hello, i'm looking for  /msg alis, where can i get it ?
[09:32] <linocisco> k1l_, meaning I am update and upgrading my ubuntu server.
[09:32] <zack_s_> I first have to connect via puty, but this require some changes inside inetd.conf, which does not exist...
[09:32] <FourDollars> Does anyone know which bot logs for http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/18/%23ubuntu.html?
[09:32] <k1l_> linocisco: so let the update run first
[09:32] <linocisco> k1l_, both are being run
[09:33] <k1l_> linocisco: see the answers: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11211705/setting-proxy-in-wget
[09:34] <FourDollars> ubuntulog: Are you the bot?
[09:34] <linocisco> k1l_, no official information from ubuntu documentation on this?
[09:34] <k1l_> linocisco: did you look?
[09:35] <linocisco> k1l_, yes. looking
[09:35] <k1l_> !proxy
[09:35] <zack_s_> I have no inetd.conf file, is this normal? (ubuntu server)
[09:35] <k1l_> linocisco: if you want it 100% official look into the manpages.
[09:35] <FourDollars> I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots. Never mind.
[09:49] <raskel> hi, i'm using Ubuntu 15.04, i have an usb stick which is FAT formatted. In the morning i did copy some files on it but right now i'm on an other computer which is using Ubuntu and i can not see that files. I don't figure out how could i access them? I guess it is because it is formatted as FAT? Could i get the files on Ubuntu whithout losing data?
[09:52] <raskel> no one? it has 4GB and it's FAT formatted.
[09:53] <Ben64> raskel: what files did you copy, where, did you properly remove the drive
[09:54] <streulma> hello, I have AMD Radeon R3 on chip CPU graphics and I encounter some glitches in the display with the property driver from AMD, the OpenSource driver also
[09:54] <OerHeks> raskel, see if "ls -al"  gives any files, then try "sudo ls -al"
[09:57] <raskel> Ben64, yes, i always use "Eject". OerHeks, it's empty. it has 4GB and is FAT formatted. ( i know FAT is old and has a lot of limities )
[09:58] <OerHeks> raskel, then there are no files.
[09:58] <pz3Gull> Hi, Everyone!
[09:58] <raskel> OerHeks, yeah and my mind doesn't get what happend there but... life is life. :)
[10:00] <linocisco> k1l_, Error parsing proxy URL http://username:password@host:8080: Bad port number.
[10:02] <k1l_> linocisco: you need to change the usernam, password and host and portnumber to the actual ones on the proxy you use
[10:02] <pz3Gull> When I run the following command "firefox --version", it returns that error before my firefox version "(process:2681): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed". Have you an idea to fix it?
[10:03] <linocisco> k1l_, yes. I did
[10:05] <OerHeks> pz3Gull, that is a known bug, that also gives https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1160569
[10:07] <linocisco> k1l_, I created /home/.wgetrc file
[10:08] <linocisco> k1l_, and now trying to wget like root@ubuntuserver14:/# wget google.com
[10:08] <linocisco> --2015-06-18 16:36:17--  http://google.com/
[10:08] <linocisco> Resolving google.com (google.com)... 216.58.211.78, 2a00:1450:4007:80e::200e
[10:08] <linocisco> Connecting to google.com (google.com)|216.58.211.78|:80...
[10:08] <linocisco> root@ubuntuserver14:/# wget google.com
[10:08] <linocisco> --2015-06-18 16:36:17--  http://google.com/
[10:08] <linocisco> Resolving google.com (google.com)... 216.58.211.78, 2a00:1450:4007:80e::200e
[10:08] <linocisco> Connecting to google.com (google.com)|216.58.211.78|:80... failed: Connection timed out.
[10:08] <linocisco> Connecting to google.com (google.com)|2a00:1450:4007:80e::200e|:80... failed: Network is unreachable.
[10:08] <k1l_> what did you put into the wgetrc?
[10:09] <OerHeks> !paste
[10:09] <k1l_> linocisco: please use a pastebin
[10:09] <pz3Gull> Thanks! I'll read it :)
[10:09] <linocisco> k1l_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11734693/
[10:10] <linocisco> k1l_, I put my own user name password
[10:10] <streulma> raskel, it is not exFAT formatted ?
[10:10] <almost_tr00p> hi guys, it's me again ;)
[10:11] <streulma> Ubuntu can't work with exFAT...
[10:11] <almost_tr00p> Now, I'm trying to connect laptop to computer, and laptop should forward wifi to computr over ethernet
[10:11] <almost_tr00p> computer*
[10:11] <bazhang> !ics | almost_tr00p
[10:12] <almost_tr00p> ok, I'll try
[10:12] <k1l_> linocisco: you run that as root, so in the users home its not used. set it in /etc/wgetrc
[10:12] <OerHeks> almost_tr00p, that is possible with standard network manager, add > bridge ..
[10:12] <k1l_> linocisco: and make sure the port is correct
[10:13] <linocisco> k1l_, yes. port is correct . i use same in apt.conf. that apt thing worked
[10:13] <linocisco> k1l_, /etc/wgetrc default file or /etc/.wgetrc to create new file?
[10:14] <k1l_> /etc/wgetrc
[10:15] <isomorphismes> The SO answers to "You have held broken packages" are a bit oldish now, so I'm asking here.
[10:16] <k1l_> isomorphismes: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[10:16] <isomorphismes> Besides apt-mark, dpkg --get-selections, and using aptitude to "try harder", what is some general advice for dealing with the error?
[10:16] <k1l_> isomorphismes: run my command. then see if that updated all held packages
[10:16] <isomorphismes> k1l_: thanks. What is full upgrade?
[10:17] <k1l_> isomorphismes: some updates need to install new packages (like the kernel package).
[10:17] <isomorphismes> I don't see it on `man apt`
[10:17] <ice9> why did Ubuntu move switched to systemd?
[10:17] <OerHeks> ice9, upstart is too old.
[10:18] <k1l_> the issue is, that its named and diverted into the historically. the GUI updater does it all at once and doesnt confuse the user
[10:18] <ice9> OerHeks: any benefits of using systemd over upstart other than it's too old?
[10:18] <k1l_> ice9: systemd is the defacto standard on linux now. there is no sense in keeping upstart and needing to maintain everything from systemd to make it work with upstart again
[10:18] <OerHeks> ice9, you better get used to it. sure there are advantages, i have no list ready
[10:20] <k1l_> isomorphismes: see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/en/man8/apt.8.html
[10:20] <OerHeks> no need for bootchart anymore > systemd-analyze blame
[10:20] <isomorphismes> ah ok it's in `man apt-get`
[10:20] <isomorphismes> k1l_: thanks
[10:20] <isomorphismes> I'm on Precise I don't know if that matters
[10:20] <aps> Hi. My Ubuntu 14.04 boot stops at "Loading initial ramdisk". Here is the output in verbose mode - https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-28KdODXf0bs/VWybfkfczSI/AAAAAAAAAMg/Ixbr6ihPK7k/w872-h1162-no/2015-06-01.jpg
[10:21] <k1l_> isomorphismes: the old apt-get one is named "apt-get dist-upgrade". but that dist is confusing people to think they get to 15.04 when they run that.
[10:21] <k1l_> isomorphismes: yeah, the ubuntu version used matters. :)
[10:21] <aps> Tried with older kernels as well, same result.
[10:21] <isomorphismes> k1l_: right, I saw dist-upgrade as an alias when I googled full-upgrade. and man apt-get for 12.04 seems to have .. something
[10:22] <isomorphismes> k1l_: and yeah,I was principally worried that you were telling me to change OS versions
[10:23] <aps> I even tried adding "nomodeset" in boot options, still same result. Can't seem to find the cause of the problem. Can someone please help?
[10:23] <EriC^> aps: boot a live usb
[10:23] <EriC^> did you recently add a hdd or something?
[10:23] <EriC^> or usb maybe
[10:23] <aps> EriC^: no
[10:24] <isomorphismes> More specifically I'm having a problem installing mono-develop. Tried both from Ubuntu's repo and Xamarin (I may have somehow deleted Xamarin's version with aptitude, if it does that)
[10:24] <aps> EriC^: I can boot with a live usb though. What to do next?
[10:25] <EriC^> type cat /var/log/boot.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:26] <EriC^> aps: nevermind
[10:27] <EriC^> mount the installation's partition
[10:27] <EriC^> sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt
[10:29] <aps> EriC^: so sorry, on an urgent call right now. Please drop instructions or I'll come back in a while. Thanks a lot!
[10:29] <technocf> I just booted up my computer to find that Unity and Skype had somehow un-installed themselves.  Both of them had completely disappeared, I have got them back now, I re-installed them.  Why would this have happened?  I'm running 15.04 with a clean install 3 days ago.
[10:30] <EriC^> aps: ok, ttyl
[10:30] <EriC^> technocf: maybe you removed a package and it removed unity?
[10:30] <EriC^> like removing lightdm removes ubuntu-desktop too
[10:31] <technocf> EriC^: That's the thing though, I didn't remove anything.
[10:31] <EriC^> technocf: check /var/log/apt/history.log
[10:31] <EriC^> maybe it got removed somehow
[10:31] <technocf> EriC^: I'll take a look... this is just so peculiar.
[10:34] <technocf> I found the culprit, I wish I could see the user who initiated the command: "apt-get remove python"
[10:34] <EriC^> technocf: /var/log/auth.log
[10:34] <technocf> I share this machine with 2 other people.
[10:34] <EriC^> or just ask them
[10:35] <technocf> EriC^: I've found who it was... they were logged in as root.  That's a pain.
[10:36] <technocf> EriC^: Well, nevermind.  Things work now so not such a big deal.  Bye.
[10:37] <abcdefgh> hello
[10:38] <abcdefgh> does ubuntu uses xinitrc
[10:38] <EriC^> no
[10:40] <ghking> hello everyone! nowdays, my ubuntu always go to black screen when start up. My laptop has two video card, and the 01:00.0 has some problem.
[10:40] <ghking> I have looked dmesg, there has a log as follow:
[10:40] <ghking> [    7.598587] vgaarb: transferring owner from PCI:0000:00:02.0 to PCI:0000:01:00.0
[10:40] <ghking> I think it's because this that my screen get to black
[10:40] <ghking> so,I want to disable vag transferring, what should i do!
[10:41] <k1l_> ghking: what driver is installed? and what ubuntu version? and what video card is it?
[10:43] <ghking> k1l_, no driver, ubuntu 12.04, ati
[10:43] <k1l_> then install the fglrx
[10:44] <abcdefgh> I find myself typing xrdb /path/to/terminal-colors every time I login or close the terminal
[10:45] <ghking> k1l_ i can not get into the system! and i have say the ati card has some problem, it's physical
[10:45] <ghking> probem
[10:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:45] <abcdefgh> can I make this automatic with mate instead of typing xrdb
[10:45] <k1l_> ghking: is it a hybrid card, that got a ati video card and a cpu build in card?
[10:46] <OnkelTem_> Hi. Ideas why pkill sometimes doesn't work?
[10:46] <OnkelTem_> For example right now, I have skype process running, but I can't kill it. I issue this: 'pkill -f skype', but no reaction.
[10:46] <ghking> k1l_ cpu build in card, my cpu is i3
[10:47] <k1l_> ghking: details matter! so what ubuntu version, what video card exactly?
[10:47] <k1l_> ghking: if its a amd/ati card and a cpu buiild in you need the prop. amd driver "fglrx" from the ubuntu repo because that can handle both cards
[10:49] <ghking> k1l_ vgaarb: transferring owner from PCI:0000:00:02.0 to PCI:0000:01:00.0
[10:49] <ghking> k1l_ can I disable the transferring
[10:50] <k1l_> ghking: stop.
[10:50] <ghking> why?
[10:51] <k1l_> ghking: you have a hybrid card there. that means you got the cpu-build-in card and a real video card from amd. this is made because of using less battery with the cpu card and having more power if needed with the amd card.
[10:51] <k1l_> sometimes you can disable that and set it to the cpu-card only in bios. but the easiest way is to install the "fglrx" driver from the ubuntu repo that can handle both cards and that will work as intended then.
[10:53] <ghking> k1l_ but I have also installed kali linux in my laptop, and it doesn't transferring ownership, and it works fine!
[10:54] <k1l_> ghking: i cant help you if you dont want to either install the prop. driver "fglrx" or set it to one video card in bios.
[10:54] <k1l_> ghking: some distributions install the prop.drivers automatically even if its not allowed.
[10:55] <ghking> k1l_ ok! but how can i install "fglrx", I can not get into my system, it's just black screen
[10:55] <ghking> my bios doesn't support disable video card
[10:55] <k1l_> ghking: press ctrl+alt+f1. then login then do a "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[10:56] <PCatinean> I have configured iptables firewall in such a way to permit only http https ssh and another port from outside source, the problem is that I had a irc bot working before and I assume it was listening on some port for informaton and now it's blocked
[10:57] <PCatinean> Given the fact that I have another server ready and I can run the same bot, how can I check which port it uses so I can open it up?
[10:57] <ghking> k1l_ I can not get into the system even the terminal
[10:57] <bazhang> what version of kali ghking
[10:57] <ghking> 1.0
[10:58] <k1l_> ghking: still not answered what ubuntu that is exactly and what video card exactly
[10:58] <k1l_> ghking: details matter
[10:59] <ghking> wait...
[11:01] <Guest17541> hello everyone
[11:01] <Guest17541> 我怎么参与ubuntu的社区开发
[11:02] <k1l_> !cn | Guest17541
[11:02] <ghking> k1l_ 12.04     Radeom HD 6470m
[11:04] <dingus> hello all, Im running lubuntu 15.04 -- I love it.
[11:07] <k1l_> !nomodeset | ghking
[11:08] <PCatinean> can anyone help?
[11:08] <k1l_> ghking: try set kernel setting and see if you can get into a desktop or the tty1 with that.
[11:08] <ghking> thank you! let me try
[11:08] <k1l_> ghking: but i recommend you use a newer ubuntu like 14.04 because that got better support for that hybrid cards
[11:16] <sibaar> hello
[11:17] <sibaar> Can someone assist me with an Ubuntu battery issue?
[11:17] <sibaar> Ubuntu uses my computer's battery till 0% and dies.
[11:17] <sibaar> Now obviously, that is a problem.
[11:20] <micalm> Plug it in
[11:25] <ghking> k1l_ thank you! I have get in my system use momodeset
[11:25] <ghking> nomodeset
[11:25] <ghking> bye
[11:25] <sibaar> Plug what in?
[11:25] <sibaar> but I'd like it to hibernate at 10%
[11:26] <k1l_> ghking: install the fglrx now
[11:26] <ghking> ok
[11:32] <zack_s_> does anybody know why inetd.conf is not on my ubuntu installation?
[11:35] <sibaar> @zack_s_ I don't even know what inetd.conf is.
[11:36] <zack_s_> I have it from here: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1039095
[11:36] <Sander^work> How do I find out which cd nfs-common is located on in 14.04?
[11:36] <zack_s_> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/inetd
[11:36] <Sander^work> iso cd.
[11:36] <sibaar> How do I set the percentage for hibernate on ubuntu? My computer goes to 0% and dies.
[11:37] <sibaar> Should I be asking this else where?
[11:43] <sibaar> this is hopeless
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[11:46] <Squarepy> sibaar, have you checked the basic power settings
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[11:48] <sibaar> Squarepy, I have. How do I do that again?
[11:48] <Squarepy> system settings -> power
[11:49] <sibaar> The charge bar is empty and "when power is critically low" option "hibernate" is greyed out.
[11:49] <sibaar> Hence, "power off" is selected.
[11:49] <sibaar> Is the issue else where?
[11:50] <Squarepy> sibaar, it could be that hibernation is not supported or has been turned off on your laptop
[11:50] <sibaar> I use hibernation from the temrinal
[11:51] <sibaar> It certainly works.
[11:51] <sibaar> Hibernate is also available through the power down menu.
[11:51] <Squarepy> k
[11:51] <sibaar> I guess this is why they call me "novice."
[11:51] <sibaar> How do you change your user colour?
[11:52] <Squarepy> 'user color'?
[11:53] <EriC^> sibaar: if you don't select either one, it should suspend
[11:54] <EriC^> sibaar: hibernate is also greyed out here, i have neither selected and it suspends
[11:54] <OerHeks> to "enable the hibernate option in the menus" see https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html last part
[11:54] <sibaar> Boy, am I relieved to see you, Eric. I cannot select anything but "power off." It doesn't give me the option.
[11:54] <EriC^> follow OerHeks 's guide
[11:54] <sibaar> user color
[11:54] <sibaar> Understood, Eric.
[11:55] <sibaar> Would this work too? :http://askubuntu.com/questions/195671/wont-hibernate-when-battery-critical
[11:55] <sibaar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/195671/wont-hibernate-when-battery-critical
[11:55] <reddeath68> Can someone help me potentially fix a nightmarish problem with 14.04.2?
[11:55] <EckyEcky> Hi, for every single command I run I get this output: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:55] <EckyEcky> mysql, apt-get ... it all gives that
[11:55] <sibaar> hello
[11:56] <EckyEcky> what is it?
[11:56] <sibaar> How do I change user colour?
[11:56] <cyberalex4life> sibaar, what is your problem, you can't hibernate?
[11:57] <EriC^> sibaar: you mean how this is red?
[11:57] <EriC^> sibaar: follow OerHeks 's guide it seems better, try to create that file and add that text
[11:57] <sibaar> Yes! How are you red?
[11:57] <sibaar> I shall follow your orders, Eric.
[11:57] <reddeath68> not to bad just having issues with lots of crashes and freezes
[11:58] <EriC^> type the first few letters of a nickname then press tab it'll autocomplete
[11:58] <EriC^> and it'll show up red or something else on the person's irc client
[11:58] <sibaar> cyberralex4life, I can hibernate but the computer won't hibernate when it reaches critical power. OerHeks has suggested a resolution. Execution Ongoing.
[11:59] <sibaar> EriC^,
[11:59] <sibaar> Now you're blue.
[11:59] <EriC^> :D
[11:59] <sibaar> I'd like to change from grey to something easily visible.
[11:59] <sibaar> ping EriC^
[11:59] <EriC^> are you using xchat?
[11:59] <sibaar> Yes, Sir.
[12:00] <reddeath68> is someone familiar with ati graphics and ubuntu 14.04.2?
[12:00] <OerHeks> sibaar, top panel, settings, preferences
[12:00] <EckyEcky> even doing sudo apt-get gives this:
[12:00] <EckyEcky> apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:00] <EckyEcky>  
[12:00] <EckyEcky> anyone knows what this is?
[12:01] <cyberalex4life> sibaar, I have something else for you here http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation , the ideea is to choose the three block of test solution
[12:01] <OerHeks> EckyEcky, on wat ubuntu version ?
[12:01] <EckyEcky> 10.10
[12:02] <sibaar> OerHeks, where do I go next?
[12:02] <sibaar> I admire your tolerances.
[12:02] <reddeath68> im having issues with kernel oops mentioning paging
[12:02] <OerHeks> cyberalex4life, that askubuntu answers are all incomplete compared to the official wiki :-(
[12:02] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | EckyEcky
[12:02] <bazhang> upgrade to a supported version first EckyEcky
[12:02] <sibaar> Hibernation is enabled. It simply does not function when power is critical. Computer is suppose to hibernate at critical power.
[12:03] <sibaar> Icky Vicky.
[12:03] <EckyEcky> bahzang: I can't. They want to stay on this one.
[12:03] <OerHeks> sibaar, that is logical, even windows/mac does not allow that
[12:03] <sibaar> Sorry.
[12:03] <sibaar> What does Windows/Mac do at critical power? Turn off? So you lose data?
[12:03] <sibaar> What would you have it do?
[12:03] <cyberalex4life> OerHeks, your's and the one for multiple users did the job for me (but never tested with multiple users). That is why I recommended it.
[12:05] <crooksey> Anyone able to help with vpnc problems? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2282919
[12:05] <cyberalex4life> OerHeks, the solution extra in the askubuntu link, may fix something
[12:05] <reddeath68> if someone is available id love help this problem has been driving me nuts for a week or better
[12:08] <sibaar> What does your laptop do at critical power? How does it deal with the lack of energy?
[12:09] <OerHeks> if i recall correctly, when power is low you can, power critical you cannot hybernate, that is all.
[12:11] <cyberalex4life> sibaar, mine hibernates with that workaround. By the way after the workaround you should go in "System Settings"->"Power" and see if hibernate is selected instead of "Power Off"
[12:14] <cyberalex4life> sibaar, if this doesn't work, it may be something from your hardware configuration, but you have one more ace to play: sudo apt-get install hibernate
[12:15] <cyberalex4life> sibaar, this worked when hibernating would not work in UbuntuGnome 14.04. But it boots slower
[12:16] <reddeath68> so can someone help me fix my problems
[12:19] <zack_s_> why can I not install openssh-server?
[12:19] <zack_s_> like described here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/SSH
[12:19] <Ludwig> Hi ; does anyone know why this documentation for Openstack Ubuntu sais that we need 2 disks on each machine ? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack
[12:21] <zack_s_> "Package openssh-server is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[12:22] <iri> I've just installed xubuntu 15.04, but when I log in graphically, I get a blank screen.  I end up having to start xfce4-session manually. I'm having trouble finding relevant bugs.
[12:22] <OerHeks> Ludwig, i think it is required by MAAS
[12:23] <iri> My ~/.xsession-errors contains "openConnection: connect: No such file or directory", "cannot connect to brltty at :0" and loads of "upstart: upstart-event-bridgge main process (pid) terminated with status 1" followed by "It's respawning too fast, stopped"
[12:23] <EriC^> !info openssh-server
[12:23] <iri> but that doesn't look like a reason that my login screen would be blank
[12:24] <Ludwig> OerHeks : thanks, but do you know any documentation on this ? (....as I don't see anything due to disks in the MAAS GUI )
[12:24] <cyberalex4life> zack_s_, have you tried with synaptic if on unity?
[12:24] <zack_s_> EriC^: so what should I do (ububtu server 14.04.2)?
[12:25] <EriC^> sudo apt-get install openssh-server isn't working?
[12:25] <zack_s_> EriC^: yes
[12:25] <zack_s_> I am on a vmware
[12:25] <OerHeks> Ludwig, see step 6 : at least 5 machines with more than one disk, gave me a clue
[12:25] <EriC^> !info openssh-server trusty
[12:25] <reddeath68> when I get an error the report labelsit as a kernel oops and mentions the cause being a page error of some sort any ideas?
[12:26] <zack_s_> but I could update with: "sudo apt-get update"
[12:26] <EriC^> !find openssh
[12:26] <iri> also, every time I login by start xfce4-session in my blank xorg, I get prompted to authenticate for action org.freedesktop.accounts.change-own-user-data - does anyone know what that's about?
[12:26] <cyberalex4life> !find openssh
[12:26] <OerHeks> zack_s_, so it is a vmware problem, not bridged network?
[12:27] <alket> im having a problem with apt-get in my work computer https://paste.kde.org/pxj7wk4kl , please help , thanks
[12:28] <cyberalex4life> alket, and how much of your disk is free?
[12:28] <vemacs> alket, please pastebin output of df -h
[12:28] <cruftbunny> hey everyone!
[12:28] <zack_s_> OerHeks: so you guess my internet connection is not working?
[12:28] <zack_s_> what can I do to check?
[12:29] <OerHeks> zack_s_, can you ping google.com ?
[12:29] <alket> cyberalex4life: vemacs https://paste.kde.org/pqt7o8tbc
[12:29] <cruftbunny> would any kind soul be willing to help me with an upgrade problem? I think I really screwed the pooch on this one
[12:29] <cedian_linux> Got a black screen when launching unity 8
[12:29] <vemacs> alket, uname -a output please
[12:29] <vemacs> then please pastebin output of ls /boot
[12:29] <zack_s_> OerHeks: yes
[12:29] <alket> vemacs: Linux alket-aab 3.13.0-53-generic #89-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 20 10:34:39 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:29] <vemacs> i'm going to suggest that you delete some old kernels manually
[12:30] <vemacs> ls /boot so we know what to mv
[12:30] <alket> vemacs: https://paste.kde.org/p5x9kotha
[12:30] <cyberalex4life> zack_s_, /boot if full...
[12:30] <zack_s_> cyberalex4life: what?
[12:30] <vemacs> can you make a directory in ~
[12:30] <vemacs> called oldkernels
[12:30] <vemacs> mkdir ~/oldkernels
[12:30] <reddeath68> can someone help me with my problem running ubuntu 14.04.2 constant and random program crashes computer crashes/freezes (sysrq +r does allow keyboard usage but monitors dont update)
[12:31] <vemacs> then run
[12:31] <cyberalex4life> zack_s_, you have a /boot partition which is ocpupied 100%
[12:31] <OerHeks> reddeath68, do a memtest86, from the grubmenu
[12:31] <vemacs> for f in vmlinuz-3.13.0-{48..52}; do mv /boot/$f-generic ~/oldkernels; done
[12:31] <vemacs> alket, ^
[12:31] <vemacs> basically we're moving your not-running old kernels to a temp dir
[12:32] <reddeath68> OerHeks, anything specific I am looking for during the test?
[12:32] <zack_s_> OerHeks: what should I do?
[12:32] <vemacs> after that alket, please pastebin ls /boot again
[12:32] <OerHeks> reddeath68, if you got bad ram, you will notice.
[12:32] <alket> vemacs: it needs root
[12:32] <vemacs> alket, add sudo in front of mv
[12:32] <vemacs> and change ~ to ~yourusername
[12:33] <vemacs> so like
[12:33] <vemacs> for f in vmlinuz-3.13.0-{48..52}; do sudo mv /boot/$f-generic ~alket/oldkernels; done
[12:33] <alket> vemacs: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[12:33] <vemacs> hmm
[12:33] <vemacs> for f in {48..52}; do sudo mv /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-$f-generic ~alket/oldkernels; done
[12:33] <vemacs> does that work?
[12:33] <cruftbunny> OerHeks: sorry to bug you, but I have a failed upgrade (14.04 to 14.10) and I'm getting some really worrisome error messages. any chance you could help me out?
[12:33] <cyberalex4life> alket, sudo for f in vmlinuz-3.13.0-{48..52}; do mv /boot/$f-generic /home/$USER/oldkernels; done
[12:34] <reddeath68> OerHeks, i hope I dont have bad ram just upgraded it a few months ago but problems started after a mix of fglrx install and accidently enabling unsupported updates under software and updates
[12:34] <alket> vemacs: same error :s
[12:34] <vemacs> hmm
[12:34] <vemacs> works on my shell
[12:34] <vemacs>  for f in {48..52}; do echo /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-$f-generic; done
[12:34] <vemacs> output of that
[12:35] <vemacs> that just echoes the thing, doesn't do anything
[12:35] <vemacs> need to see if your shell is wonky
[12:35] <alket> vemacs: https://paste.kde.org/p60cgcu5p
[12:35] <OerHeks> zack_s_, found it, an ugly one, remove ssh-client > http://askubuntu.com/questions/504836/not-able-to-configure-ssh-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[12:36] <cyberalex4life> vemacs, in my case there's an error too
[12:36] <OerHeks> unsupported updates .. should have said that in the beginning, reddeath68
[12:36] <vemacs> for f in `for f in {48..52}; do echo /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-$f-generic; done`; do mv $f /home/$USER/oldkernels; done
[12:36] <vemacs> how about that
[12:36] <OerHeks> so what do you think now what could be a trouble?
[12:36] <vemacs> alket, ^
[12:36] <reddeath68> OerHeks, sorry so much text was hard to get a word in
[12:36] <vemacs> put the sudo in front of mv, forgot that again
[12:37] <OerHeks> with unsupported you mean proposed ?
[12:37] <reddeath68> OerHeks, well the graphics will randomly freeze screen and all and monitor wont update even after sysrq + r
[12:37] <zack_s_> OerHeks: I tryed it, I could remove the client
[12:38] <zack_s_> but not after update, I still cannot install it
[12:38] <alket> vemacs: same error :s
[12:38] <alket> can i remove them manually ?
[12:38] <reddeath68> OerHeks, also if im running firefox or wine they both randomly crash but never at exactly the same time
[12:38] <vemacs> yeah
[12:38] <vemacs> idk, this works on my shell
[12:38] <vemacs> for f in `for f in {48..52}; do echo /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-$f-generic; done`; do cp $f .; done
[12:38] <alket> these files right https://paste.kde.org/p60cgcu5p ?
[12:38] <vemacs> maybe it's something weird with mv
[12:38] <vemacs> yep
[12:38] <vemacs> basically everything before 53
[12:38] <vemacs> which is what you're currently running
[12:39] <vemacs> do not move 53
[12:39] <vemacs> that would be bad
[12:39] <alket> vemacs: when i do it without sudo it says that i don't heave permission to remove those files
[12:39] <alket> with sude , that error
[12:39] <vemacs> alket, do a sudo bash
[12:39] <vemacs> `sudo bash`
[12:39] <vemacs> then run that
[12:39] <vemacs> if you don't want to do it manually
[12:39] <alket> vemacs: ok removed :)
[12:39] <vemacs> okay
[12:39] <vemacs> now do a sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:40] <vemacs> paste output please
[12:40] <vemacs> actually, do a df -h first
[12:40] <reddeath68> OerHeks, is there some way to remove the updates that may have been installed by unsupported updates?
[12:40] <alket> vemacs: https://paste.kde.org/pflmyxavi
[12:40] <vemacs> hmm
[12:41] <vemacs> can you do a du -h /boot
[12:41] <vemacs> I mean, du -h boot/*
[12:42] <alket> vemacs: https://paste.kde.org/pyhq4ellc
[12:42] <vemacs>  du -h boot/* please
[12:42] <zack_s_> I give up, openssh-server doesnt work with ubuntu
[12:43] <vemacs> should look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11735198/
[12:43] <alket> vemacs: du: cannot access ‘boot/*’: No such file or directory
[12:43] <vemacs> I suck at this, du -h /boot/* please
[12:43] <alket> vemacs: https://paste.kde.org/phxxzsf0n
[12:44] <vemacs> alket, sudo mv /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-52-generic ~
[12:44] <alket> done
[12:44] <vemacs> df -h again
[12:44] <alket> vemacs: https://paste.kde.org/p7kvfygqg
[12:45] <vemacs> sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:45] <alket> vemacs: https://paste.kde.org/prjgyriwi
[12:45] <alket> vemacs: sorry this https://paste.kde.org/p3lzkjj7c
[12:46] <vemacs> alket, dpkg -l | grep linux-image-
[12:46] <bjrohan_> Hello all. I had been running 14.04 just fine, specifically my wifi. Yesterday I updated to 14.10 then 15.04, and now my wifi connection is horrible, it is extremely unreliable, When I first stat my machine it runs fine, then it's performance goes up and down, mostly dow
[12:47] <OerHeks> reddeath68, good question, i am not sure disabling them in sources menu is enough
[12:47] <bjrohan_> What can I check to see how to fix it
[12:47] <alket> vemacs: https://paste.kde.org/p7xfhgl07
[12:48] <bjrohan_> For instance, IRC used to be smooth, no I get blocks of conversations, then for minutes, nothing
[12:48] <vemacs> alket, do a sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic linux-image-3.13.0-40-generic
[12:48] <vemacs> if it asks you to apt-get -f install again
[12:48] <vemacs> try that
[12:48] <vemacs> you should have enough space
[12:48] <cyberalex4life> bjrohan_, probably filing a bug
[12:49] <reddeath68> OerHeks, i did disable them I am just really hoping to avoid redoing the system again(just redid it like 1-2 months ago)
[12:50] <cruftbunny> so I just tried restarting my machine, and now I can't ubuntu to load
[12:51] <isomorphismes> k1l_: well, dist-upgrade didn't fix my problem
[12:51] <cruftbunny> *can't get ubuntu to load
[12:51] <alket> vemacs: thank you very veryyyy much :D
[12:52] <vemacs> alket, fixed?
[12:52] <vemacs> run a sudo apt-get autoremove last
[12:52] <vemacs> sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:52] <alket> im doing upgrade :s
[12:52] <k1l_> isomorphismes: what is it now exactly? please pastebin
[12:52] <vemacs> run the autoremove as soon as possible
[12:52] <cruftbunny> hey vemacs: would you be able to help me out? I just totally messed up my laptop
[12:52] <vemacs> cruftbunny, how so
[12:53] <alket> vemacs: many linux-headers... are being removed
[12:53] <cruftbunny> vemacs: thanks! so here's the situation:
[12:53] <vemacs> alket, good
[12:53] <alket> thansk again :D
[12:53] <vemacs> did the upgrade go smoothly?
[12:53] <cruftbunny> I was running an upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10, and encountered an error during the installation/configuration stage
[12:53] <alket> i interrupted to autoremove
[12:53] <vemacs> okay
[12:54] <cruftbunny> so I tried running update/autoremove the usual stuff
[12:54] <musique> oucou
[12:54] <cruftbunny> I removed old kernel images, which shouldn't have been the problem, since this is a brand new laptop
[12:54] <vemacs> cruftbunny, how did you upgrade
[12:54] <musique> salut les pingouin
[12:54] <vemacs> do-release-upgrade
[12:54] <vemacs> or via the GUI
[12:54] <cruftbunny> the GUI
[12:54] <vemacs> now it doesn't boot?
[12:55] <cruftbunny> nope
[12:55] <vemacs> hmm
[12:55] <vemacs> do you have a camera
[12:55] <cruftbunny> it is sitting at a busybox prompt saying "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem
[12:55] <cruftbunny> "
[12:55] <cruftbunny> yea
[12:55] <vemacs> that can't be busyboc
[12:55] <vemacs> busybox*
[12:55] <vemacs> if the kernel isn't loaded
[12:56] <vemacs> do you have any USB devices plugged in
[12:56] <cruftbunny> I do, I have a mouse
[12:56] <vemacs> anything in the disk drive
[12:56] <cruftbunny> I should unplug that yeah?
[12:56] <vemacs> shouldn't matter
[12:56] <cruftbunny> that's it
[12:56] <vemacs> mostly looking for flash drives/external hard drives
[12:56] <vemacs> just going for the obvious stuff
[12:56] <cruftbunny> nope. nothing
[12:56] <vemacs> I don't think you can revive your system exactly
[12:56] <vemacs> I think you might be able to rescue your files
[12:56] <vemacs> but like a broken upgrade is going to be incredibly hard to recover from
[12:57] <cruftbunny> that shouldn't really matter so much. it's brand new, I haven't migrated much to it
[12:57] <vemacs> okay, do you have an ubuntu disk or flash drive
[12:57] <vemacs> have you tried a clean reinstall?\
[12:57] <isomorphismes> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/YK5BKmwi
[12:57] <vemacs> wondering why you want to try continuing with the update
[12:58] <cruftbunny> you mean, upgrade at all? or salvage this immediate problem?
[12:58] <vemacs> salvage this immediate problem
[12:58] <vemacs> like, you're screwed, so
[12:58] <vemacs> you might be able to chroot from an external flash drive
[12:58] <vemacs> and install kernel images
[12:58] <vemacs> but i highly doubt that'll fix the system since the upgrade is halfway
[12:59] <cruftbunny> yeah that's fine. I'm happy to just reinstall
[12:59] <k1l_> isomorphismes: PPAs involved? or other 3rd party packages?
[12:59] <vemacs> so, have you tried reinstalling?
[12:59] <vemacs> or do you need your data off
[12:59] <cruftbunny> I don't really need the data
[12:59] <cruftbunny> nothing on there that isn't backed up
[12:59] <vemacs> so, i think your current install is screwed, just reinstall
[13:00] <vemacs> if you're still getting the same error
[13:00] <cruftbunny> alright thanks!
[13:00] <cruftbunny> any advice on how to avoid this in the future?
[13:00] <vemacs> make sure your laptop is booting from the flash drive
[13:00] <cruftbunny> I was thinking of just isntalling 15.04 (downloading the ISO right now)
[13:00] <vemacs> use do-release-upgrade, it'll help you resolve errors more easily
[13:00] <vemacs> LTS to LTS upgrades go much more smoothly
[13:00] <cruftbunny> any reason that should be a problem?
[13:00] <vemacs> try having everything updated before you do the upgrade
[13:00] <isomorphismes> k1l_: How would I check that?
[13:00] <vemacs> using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:01] <k1l_> isomorphismes: "apt-cache policy mono-devel"
[13:01] <EriC^> also running do-release-upgrade in a screen session is probably good
[13:01] <EriC^> cruftbunny:
[13:01] <cruftbunny> thanks. I had updated beforehand
[13:01] <vemacs> i find do-release-upgrade much more reliable than the GUI solution
[13:01] <cruftbunny> eric^: that's a good idea
[13:01] <vemacs> the GUI exists on configuration merge prompts
[13:01] <vemacs> do-release-upgrade gives you an option
[13:01] <cruftbunny> vemacs: that makes sense
[13:01] <k1l_> isomorphismes: that is a 12.04 ubuntu?
[13:01] <cruftbunny> I'm still not sure where the error came from
[13:02] <cruftbunny> everything was up to date
[13:03] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Maybe that is the problem. http://pastebin.com/6CeSvrep    | http://pastebin.com/ve2U13C1
[13:03] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Yep 12.04
[13:04] <k1l_> isomorphismes: yes. it requires depencies that doesnt get satisfied on the ubuntu
[13:04] <vemacs> alket, anyways, assuming your upgrade and autoremove went well
[13:04] <vemacs> feel free to delete the oldkernels directories
[13:04] <vemacs> after rebooting once
[13:05] <KlausedSource> hello, is there a way to modify apt so that it shows which version of a package is going to be installed when issuing apt-get install?
[13:05] <KlausedSource> like when i go "apt-get install php5" it would say something like "installing php5.6-3"
[13:05] <TJ-> KlausedSource: "--simulate"
[13:06] <reddeath68> OerHeks, I have my update log will that help with trying to fix my problem?
[13:06] <alket> vemacs: it just finished, went smooth as usual, thanks :)
[13:06] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Thanks for that policy command. So .. let me see if I have this straight. Pangolin's mono-devel in the repo is too old for Xamarin's thing to work with it -- so I need to kill all of the mono-devel stuff (using synaptic or apt-get or aptitude) ..
[13:06] <k1l_> KlausedSource: you can ask that with apt-cache policy <package>
[13:06] <TJ-> KlausedSource: Or possibly "--verbose-versions"
[13:06] <k1l_> KlausedSource: or with apt-cache show <package>
[13:06] <cruftbunny> vemacs: thanks again for your help! I really appreciate it. I'm creating a startup disk now (with 15.04) and I'm going to install that. cross your fingers
[13:06] <k1l_> KlausedSource: if you only want to install one packge there is no prompt if you want to install it with apt-get install
[13:07] <isomorphismes> k1l_: ..and then it's the 3rd party's job to give me all of what I need if I build from thir source, and Pangolin's libraries shouldn't get in the way? Or they might make some assumptions about Ubuntu providing some of the C# libraries?
[13:07] <cruftbunny> vemacs: in fact, cross your fingers, arms, toes and eyes just to be safe :)
[13:07] <vemacs> side note, i generally just avoid upgrading in general lol
[13:08] <vemacs> the only upgrades i've had 0 issues with are lts-to-lts-upgrades
[13:08] <vemacs> just did a 12.04-14.04 upgrade on a server two days ago
[13:08] <KlausedSource> TJ, k1l_ well --verbose-versions is looking good. i guess --simulate will work for single package too
[13:08] <KlausedSource> thanks you both
[13:08] <cruftbunny> haha I'll keep that in mind
[13:08] <k1l_> isomorphismes: kind of right. but you included the repos for "debian wheezy" and "debian beta" which seem to want another versions of the depencies which 12.04 cant fullfill and the 3rd party repo from xamarin doesnt ship.
[13:09] <cruftbunny> I'm sorta surprised. given that this is a brand new machine with very little cruft on it, you'd think it would have been fine
[13:09] <k1l_> isomorphismes: so either you get a working 12.04 repo from xamarin, which ships everything that mono wants, or you use the 12.04 original one.
[13:10] <k1l_> isomorphismes: or you make an own package with all the depencies (compile it). or get a setup that works without the package system at all.
[13:12] <k1l_> isomorphismes: their install page names another repo that is needed for the old ubuntu releases like 12.04 http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/
[13:13] <isomorphismes> k1l_: oh awesome
[13:13] <crocket> Why does 'apt-cache show' give precedence to official repositories over ppa?
[13:14] <k1l_> isomorphismes: but i dont know if it works then. please talk to the mono guys then
[13:14] <linux> hello
[13:14] <linux> how are you
[13:14] <crocket> I want to inspect ppa packages with 'apt-cache show'
[13:14] <k1l_> crocket: can you show a apt-cache show and apt-cache policy in a pastebin?
[13:14] <isomorphismes> k1l_: yeah there are a couple sets of directions and I have probably tried 5 different ways without necessarily undoing the previous one
[13:15] <linux> to day is first day of ramadhan
[13:16] <mcphail> linux: is this going to be an Ubuntu support question?
[13:16] <alket> lol
[13:17] <linux> yes mcphail
[13:17] <mcphail> linux: good. Please ask your question and we'll try to answer
[13:17] <linux> ok
[13:17] <linux> where did live
[13:17] <crocket> k1l_, http://dpaste.com/19GSJHC
[13:17] <linux> mis mc phail
[13:18] <crocket> According to http://dpaste.com/19GSJHC , torbrowser-launcher 0.2.0 was installed, but 'apt-cache show torbrowser-launcher' shows information for torbrowser-launcher 0.1.9.
[13:19] <crocket> I want to see information on torbrowser-launcher 0.2.0
[13:19] <k1l_> crocket: see line 19: Version: 0.2.0.1-1
[13:20] <crocket> k1l_, Oh, I was fooled by the second package reported by apt-cache show.
[13:20] <k1l_> crocket: yes, happens sometimes :)
[13:23] <isomorphismes> k1l_: http://pastie.org/10246948
[13:25] <isomorphismes> k1l_: https://gitter.im/mono/monodevelop?at=557bc01df1cd32e97eca3c4f "Mono: talk to Ubuntu; Ubuntu: talk to Mono"
[13:26] <alket> vemacs: i rebooted, now my display is 1024x768 , the max :s
[13:27] <vemacs> alket, i doubt it was related to kernel removal
[13:27] <vemacs> what gpu
[13:27] <k1l_> isomorphismes: i dont know how to solve that on the old ubuntu 12.04. i am not a mono guy
[13:27] <alket> vemacs: i use xorg edgers ppa
[13:27] <isomorphismes> k1l_: so you think it's a 12.04 issue for sure? how can you tell?
[13:31] <k1l_> isomorphismes: 12.04 is form 2012. that is 3 years old. and the packages dont get updates to new version numbers. so if you want to put a mono 5.0 in there you need to update a lot of other packages that mono 5.0 wants to be updated. ubuntu will not provide that updated packages. so the xamarin guys need to ship them in their PPA.
[13:31] <k1l_> isomorphismes: so its not an ubuntu issue. its a "xamarin doesnt ship all new packages you need" issue.
[13:33] <isomorphismes> k1l_: ok thanks. so let me see again if I'm following. I need to remove Pangolin's C# libraries and install maybe some new C# and GTK# etc sources? Find whatever the dependencies are myself and build them from source?
[13:33] <Guest9610> Hey guys, I would like a way to highlight the currently selected window on the taskbar with mate. I am using ubuntu mate 15.04 with the redmond layout. I would like an effect similar to the change in color when I put the mouse over the taskbar, it gets a bit green the selected item.
[13:35] <k1l_> isomorphismes: i dont know the details. but xamarin doesnt ship all you need. so ask them first if they can make it work with 12.04 on their side.
[13:36] <Guest9610> ... I am asking because it is hard to know the current window if I have more than three of four windows open, especially when I have an application open more than once. I have to rely on what the text is saying which isn't that comfy.
[13:37] <isomorphismes> k1l_: ok. So I should see if one of their PPA's can cover it for me rather than get the sources myself?
[13:37] <regedit> TJ-: heya!
[13:37] <isomorphismes> k1l_: thanks for your help, I just can't fully understand what you know and how you're getting to the conclusions you are from the pastes I sent.
[13:37] <isomorphismes> which is why I keep trying to make sure I'm following you
[13:38] <k1l_> isomorphismes: stop blindly putting any PPA in your system. if you include the rong ones that will just make more mess.
[13:38] <isomorphismes> k1l_: I don't know how to do it other than blind.
[13:38] <k1l_> isomorphismes: the page i linked you name one PPA and one additional PPA if you are on 12.04. make sure you got that both and only that both.
[13:39] <k1l_> isomorphismes: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[13:41] <regedit> Jordan_U: hello, you there?
[13:42] <TJ-> regedit: Hey ... how's it going?
[13:42] <Guest9610> I will AFK for 15 mins
[13:42] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Thanks. https://dpaste.de/isE4 ←So it's maybe the problem that I have both beta and non-beta in there?
[13:43] <isomorphismes> https://dpaste.de/isE4#L26,27,28,29,30,31
[13:43] <k1l_> isomorphismes: holy moly. that is a lot PPAs. and even several different mono ones, line 21 and 22, too.
[13:43] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[13:44] <isomorphismes> Is it? It's just stuff like node, flash, google chrome, Haskell, ...
[13:44] <isomorphismes> Ubuntu has really old packages, so ..
[13:44] <k1l_> isomorphismes: ubuntu got new packages, but you use a old ubuntu version :)
[13:45] <ratmav> hey, i'm listening for udp traffic on a specific port, and i can see traffic that is heading to another ip. should i be able to do that?
[13:45] <ratmav> using tcpdump on two separate vms (different hypervisors)
[13:45] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Supposedly valid until 2017
[13:45] <k1l_> isomorphismes: yes. but dont complain about old packages then :)
[13:46] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Ubuntu will never have correct versions for the stuff I really need (R, latex) but switching to Arch would bring a whole 'nother suite of problems.
[13:46] <k1l_> isomorphismes: you are running a OS from 2012. (that is 3 years old) that is fine. but dont expect packages from 2015 to be put in there back in 2012.
[13:47] <isomorphismes> k1l_: They were certainly not current in 2012 either
[13:47] <k1l_> isomorphismes: so make sure you got the right xamarin PPAs and that other PPAs dont interfer there.
[13:48] <isomorphismes> "complaining" about free software doesn't make sense anyway. But on the other hand Mono developers want people to use Mono and Ubuntu developers want people to use Ubuntu. This is facilitated if things just work.
[13:48] <isomorphismes> k1l_: ok thanks. So maybe I need to go into /etc/apt/sources.list and delete some lines?
[13:49] <k1l_> dont blindly delete. that blindly did bring you into that situation you are now.
[13:49] <OerHeks>  isomorphismes use ppa-purge to remove ppa's
[13:49] <isomorphismes> k1l_: Are you able to tell from like apt-get show if they're interfering somehow?
[13:49] <k1l_> get a clue what PPAs you want (they are on the official xamarin page i linked you) and make sure you got them and other mono PPAs dont interfer there
[13:49] <OerHeks> and hope this ppa-mess will survive it :-D
[13:50] <isomorphismes> Without a specific instruction I am definitely blind.
[13:50] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | isomorphismes use that to remove a PPA
[13:52] <isomorphismes> k1l_: OerHeks I should kill the beta one?
[13:54] <isomorphismes> What does the ppa-purge command do that like commenting out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list would not do?
[13:54] <k1l_> isomorphismes: look at the official page what PPAs you need and make sure to have that 2.
[13:54] <OerHeks> Yes, i would remove the beta one. ppapurge rolls back too, to the original packages
[13:54] <k1l_> isomorphismes: i hope you dont have put anything 3rd party stuff into your sources.list file.
[13:55] <isomorphismes> OerHeks: What do you mean "roll back"?
[13:55] <k1l_> isomorphismes: and /etc/apt/sources.list.d is a folder.
[13:55] <OerHeks> isomorphismes, if the installed ppa packages stay, then future updates will go wrong.
[13:56] <isomorphismes> I put the LLVM toolchain into my sources.list
[13:56] <isomorphismes> *unrelated but it's 3rd party in that file
[13:56] <isomorphismes> QGIS as well
[13:57] <k1l_> the more you put 3rd party stuff into your system the less you can blame ubuntu for crashing.
[13:59] <OerHeks> well that mono error must come from one of the 3 ppa's
[14:00] <isomorphismes> k1l_: we're not talking about random people here
[14:01] <isomorphismes> OerHeks: ok right
[14:04] <helo> a few months ago, on 14.04, i noticed every second or so my mouse cursor would skip, typing would skip, and any video playing would skip
[14:04] <helo> Xorg cpu usage stays between 20-30% if nothing is running
[14:04] <helo> it appears to even do that in lightdm with no user logged in
[14:04] <helo> nvidia 8400gs video card
[14:05] <helo> i reinstalled 15.04, and everything was back to being smooth
[14:05] <helo> everything was fine yesterday, but today (i leave my machine on, so it wasn't a new boot) the skipping behavior is back
[14:06] <TJ-> helo: first thing is to inspect the kernel log for any clues: "/var/log/kern.log"
[14:06] <mcphail> helo: anything important in dmesg? Failing hard drives etc?
[14:07] <helo> TJ-: did that, nothing at all
[14:08] <helo> nothing in kern.log, dmesg output, Xorg.0.log
[14:08] <mcphail> cpu temps?
[14:08] <helo> by "nothing", i mean nothing after 19 seconds from boot. just normal startup messages
[14:08] <bstarek> check system monitor and see what processes are eating your cpu
[14:09] <helo> 29-32
[14:09] <helo> running atop, it's just Xorg using ~20% of my cpu
[14:09] <Johnny_Linux> drivers
[14:09] <helo> yeah... probably nvidia driver
[14:09] <Johnny_Linux> itl make your card run hot too
[14:09] <mcphail> helo: have you tried setting the nvidia driver to "prefer maximum performance"?
[14:09] <bstarek> you sure you are using the correct driverS?
[14:10] <helo> same drivers i've been using since i installed. has worked for 2.5 months, and now identical skipping behavior with 14.04 suddenly returned overnight :/
[14:10] <Johnny_Linux> ofr nvidia 8 series, prolly need older driver
[14:10] <Johnny_Linux> for
[14:11] <helo> i gave up trying to fix it last time and just reinstalled
[14:11] <helo> let me look up the recommended version
[14:13] <isomorphismes> OerHeks: sudo ppa-purge ppa:mono/xamarin-beta  # is apparently the wrong format. Looking at http://askubuntu.com/a/91660/12518 for the syntax.
[14:22] <unknown_user> Hello there, how are you?
[14:23] <reisio> fine, and you?
[14:23] <unknown_user> reisio: Fine, too.
[14:23] <reisio> noyce
[14:25] <helo> i'm running the recommended driver (340.76)
[14:27] <OerHeks> isomorphismes, ugly, not sure ppa-purge can handle this way of adding sources http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/
[14:27] <helo> if i switch to console, xorg cpu usage drops off, but kworker uses ~10%
[14:27] <gagalicious> is there a way i can pxe boot into a previously used state of a linux desktop? e.g. my client desktop is connected to a pxe boot server... if my power is cut from my client... after power is restored, the pxe will boot into my previous state of desktop from the server. is there anything like that in the wild?
[14:27] <helo> if i kill lightdm so X isn't running at all, kworker settles down and the system seems to be back to normal responsiveness
[14:30] <isomorphismes> OerHeks: I deleted the folder in sources.list.d, do you think that's ok?
[14:31] <isomorphismes> ah cool, looks like it started. Thank you so much OerHeks and k1l_ for spotting my error.
[14:31] <isomorphismes> It was probably that I had added the beta Xamarin as well as the stable (don't know why I did that .. week and a half ago .. etc etc)
[14:31] <isomorphismes> I feel like I've learned a lot thanks OerHeks k1l_
[14:33] <aps> EriC^: are you around?
[14:37] <MagePsycho> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
[14:39] <purefan> is this the right channel for ubuntu server questions?
[14:39] <k1l_> purefan: this or #ubuntu-server
[14:39] <purefan> k1l_:thanks
[14:41] <purefan> I wrote a small bash script, it collects stats from mysql into a flat file using a flat file to read the password to log in to mysql. I want to package it into a .deb file but dont want to ask the user to store the db password in a flat file, is there a way around this?
[14:42] <pbx> purefan, environment variables are another common tactic. it's still gonna be on disk though
[14:46] <mcphail> purefan: does the user run the script manually?
[14:46] <purefan> pbx: Thanks. Since the script is meant to be run by crontab and as root, would I be correct in assuming that a flat file owned by root with least privileges would be relatively safe?
[14:46] <mcphail> aah - that answers it  :)
[14:47] <helo> i replaced the 8400gs with a gt740, and it's running smooth again
[14:47] <helo> wtf....
[14:47] <purefan> mcphail: Nope, its a crontab process. The output of the file is stored in a flat file with each line in the format: <date>|<slow-queries-count>|<average-queries-per-second>
[14:47] <purefan> Another program may plot that into a graph or monitor it to send an alert or something --> yet to be defined
[14:48] <mcphail> purefan: create a new user, and store the password file so it is only readable for that user. I wouldn't use root for a script like this: gives your shell script too many priveleges
[14:49] <mcphail> purefan: any coding error can be catastrophic
[14:49] <purefan> mcphail: Agreed! I will take that route :) thanks
[14:50] <mcphail> purefan: there might be a better way, though...
[14:50] <freeone3000> After switching users, it seems like GNOME applications no longer recognize my keyboard. KDE applications work fine, GTK+ applications that don't use GNOME work fine. What could cause this?
[14:51] <mcphail> purefan: IIRC, debian/ubuntu sets up special database users and scripts to do routine tasks. I think you can configure them to do extra tasks such as this
[14:51] <Johnny_Linux> helo , from owning a couple 8 series cards, i often had to change drivers to get them to work, but, if the 740 is working, leave it.
[14:52] <Johnny_Linux> un;unless the card is breaking down.
[14:53] <helo> my machine is quieter with this card too... win/win :)
[14:53] <Johnny_Linux> keep it cool, remember, heat kills
[14:53] <pbx> purefan, i agree with mcphail. only-root-readable makes sense for system things like wifi passwords but not so much for this
[14:54] <Johnny_Linux> and dont over clock it
[14:54] <purefan> mcphail: Sounds like what I need! is this what you were talking about https://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase/
[14:54] <helo> i've never even used it to play games... just a workstation
[14:54] <Johnny_Linux> nice
[14:54] <helo> the GPU hasn't seen any real action. the fan still may have worn out over the last few years
[14:54] <Johnny_Linux> most likely
[14:54] <helo> it wasn't running really hot, but a few degrees warmer than this one is
[14:55] <mcphail> purefan: don't think that is it. Hunting through this old debian box just now...
[14:55] <Johnny_Linux> what kind of mobo is it
[14:55] <purefan> mcphail: Thanks!
[14:56] <helo> i wouldn't think 32C would be even a bit of a problem... oh well whatever, computers are flaky -.-
[14:57] <Turnip_Green> Are there any known problems with USB support in 15.04?  After I installed the 64 bit variant all my 2.0 USB ports stopped working.
[14:58] <freeone3000> Okay, setting the IME from IBus to None fixed my keyboard problems after restarting the problematic applications.
[15:00] <Turnip_Green> freeon3000 is your comment in response to mine?
[15:00] <mcphail> purefan: all I can find just now is the dbconfig stuff, and I don't think that's what I was remembering
[15:01] <purefan> mcphail: Thats alright :) Thanks for trying though!. Do you think an embedded sqlite db would be better?
[15:02] <purefan> mcphail: But dbconfig looks pretty good "provides debian packagers with an easy, reliable, and consistent method for managing databases used by debian packages." -https://people.debian.org/~seanius/policy/dbconfig-common.html/
[15:02] <freeone3000> Turnip_Green: Nope.
[15:03] <freeone3000> Turnip_Green: My problem is with applications not recognizing typing events, such as web browsers.
[15:03] <Turnip_Green> I see.  Carry on then.
[15:04] <mcphail> purefan: dbconfig is used to setup default users/tables etc when a package like drupal is installed. It uses the special debian database users to do that, but I seem to remember they can also be subverted to your own ends for regular database dumps etc
[15:05] <freeone3000> Okay, nevermind, not fixed. Now works in browsers, but still can't input text into entry fields.
[15:05] <purefan> mcphail: Definitely bookmarking this. Thanks a lot! :)
[15:06] <mcphail> if your application only has one process accessing it at any time, sqlite might be simpler all round
[15:09] <jak2000> hi all
[15:09] <akxwi-dave> howdo
[15:09] <jak2000> if i mount a windows share: sudo mount -t cifs //132.1.5.240/Sistemas /mnt/share/svr242/ -o username=administrador,password=Jmasc3186   how to unmount?
[15:10] <freeone3000> jak2000: That'd be sudo umount /mnt/share/svr242
[15:10] <k1l> jak2000: sudo umount /mnt/share/svr242/
[15:11] <EriC^> jak2000: i'd change the pass dude
[15:11] <sibaar> How do you list channels on a server?
[15:13] <jak2000> worked, thanks freeone3000, k1l, EriC^, other question how to ask if is mounted? for proceed to umount ?
[15:13] <EriC^> jak2000: type df
[15:13] <reisio> sibaar: on _this_ server: /msg alis list *foo*bar*
[15:13] <reisio> sibaar: elsewhere, you can try /list, but you'll hate it
[15:14] <sibaar> But it won't work here?
[15:14] <k1l> jak2000: "mount" shows all mounte
[15:14] <OerHeks> sibaar on xchat there is a server menu
[15:14] <freeone3000> jak2000: If it's not mounted, and you want it unmounted, issue the umount command. It will fail if it's unmounted.
[15:14] <reisio> sibaar: it will, but alis is much better, here
[15:14] <nzk> Hey guys. I was banned about 10 years ago from this channel and was wondering if the ban can be forgotten?
[15:14] <nzk> I did the mods command by accident and that's the reason for the ban.
[15:14] <sibaar> HELP
[15:15] <OerHeks> nzk, not a question for this channel, join #ubuntu-ops
[15:15] <cfhowlett> nzk, you're here now, so obviously not banned.
[15:15] <EriC^> sibaar: listing all channels will take forever
[15:15] <jak2000> i want write a script, and ask comething: if (mounted /mnt/share/svr242) then  sudo umount /mnt/share/svr242/
[15:15] <BluesKaj> nzk, 10 yr bans don't exist afaik
[15:15] <EriC^> sibaar: if you're searching for a channel you can use
[15:15] <EriC^> !alis
[15:15] <sibaar> There are that many?
[15:15] <sibaar> !alis
[15:16] <EriC^> sibaar: 59452 :channels formed
[15:16] <freeone3000> jak2000: Trying to umount without checking is one way to do this.
[15:16] <sibaar> Oh dear.
[15:16] <sibaar> that's a lot.
[15:16] <mistralol> in sles man pages. When you request a man page it will prompt for which section you want to read. How can I enable this in ubuntu?
[15:16] <EriC^> sibaar: do /msg alis list *something*
[15:16] <sibaar> Is a private channel possible? One that requires a password? I've been trying it but I can still connect without the key.
[15:17] <reisio> echo in here...
[15:17] <reisio> sibaar: yeah, invite only
[15:17] <reisio> talk to #freenode
[15:17] <sibaar> Invite from the server? Like this chatroom/stream/irc?
[15:17] <reisio> talk to #freenode
[15:18] <reisio> https://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[15:20] <freeone3000> I'm having this problem where I cannot input text into any text field in a web browser. This is problematic. I also can't type into System Settings, or most other GNOME applictions. GTK+ applications, KDE applications are fine. I'm using Unity. I seem to get "IBUS Warning: Too many events in queue!" However, ibus isn't running.
[15:20] <freeone3000> How can I remove the scourge of ibus from my system?
[15:21] <pbx> freeone3000, have you installed all available updates and restarted?
[15:21] <mcphail> freeone3000: what version of ubuntu?
[15:22] <aitor> buenas, quisiera saber como desistalo el paquete de "audio production" en ubuntu studio
[15:22] <freeone3000> mcphail: 14.04 LTS.
[15:22] <freeone3000> pbx: Yes, that's what got me into this mess.
[15:23] <aitor> and uninstall the "audio production" on ubuntu studio package?
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !es | aitor
[15:25] <freeone3000> I've tried disabling ibus from keyboard input, but that doesn't help - it still uses ibus, somehow.
[15:26] <mcphail> freeone3000: hmm - I think 14.04 fixed any ibus problems I'd previously experienced...
[15:27] <mcphail> freeone3000: does "im-config -l" show anything on 14.04?
[15:27] <freeone3000> mcphail: ibus xim
[15:27] <mcphail> freeone3000: try running "im-config -n xim"
[15:28] <freeone3000> mcphail: Okay, now what?
[15:28] <mcphail> freeone3000: try your apps
[15:29] <freeone3000> mcphail: New errors. "(google-chrome:12173): IBUS-WARNING **: Unable to connect to ibus: Could not connect: Connection refused" followed by "[12173:12173:0618/112911:ERROR:CONSOLE(70)] "Uncaught Error: Attempting to use a disconnected port object", source: extensions::messaging (70)"
[15:29] <freeone3000> mcphail: No futher errors. Typing does not work.
[15:30] <mcphail> freeone3000: just chrome, or the other apps as well?
[15:30] <freeone3000> mcphail: Chrome, Opera, System Settings, File Manager break. Chrome is the one that reports the errors, the rest fail silently.
[15:31] <mcphail> freeone3000: aargh. Do you use different input methods/keyboards etc?
[15:32] <freeone3000> mcphail: No. I have a Lenovo E531 keyboard, connected through USB, uses US-English layout, does not have a compose key, does not have alternate layouts, acts as US-104 key.
[15:32] <kokut> hello, anyone knows if upgrading to SSD is worth it in ubuntu atm?
[15:32] <freeone3000> kokut: Yes.
[15:32] <mcphail> freeone3000: and what were you doing when it broke?
[15:32] <cfhowlett> kokut, no complaints.  ssd is well supported
[15:32] <freeone3000> mcphail: I had installed the latest system update to 14.04 and restarted. This broke my entire user, so I made a new one. Then this started.
[15:33] <kokut> cfhowlett: well supported as in huge performance improvement or just working like a normal HD?
[15:33] <freeone3000> mcphail: I was running 14.04 previously, I'm still running 14.04 as best I can tell, but a ton of stuff broke and I'm unable to differentiate.
[15:33] <cfhowlett> kokut, superior to hdd performance
[15:33] <mcphail> freeone3000: In that case, I suspect something deeper is fundamentally broken
[15:34] <freeone3000> mcphail: Like what? Ubuntu?
[15:34] <mcphail> freeone3000: users shouldn't "break" on Ubuntu. What was broken?
[15:36] <freeone3000> mcphail: When logging in, screen output froze in a non-standard pattern. (I have two monitors. What usually happens is primary works, secondary mirrors primary on the left side, right side is full of screen garbage when logging in. For this user, it switches to mirroring on the LEFT side, right side is full of blackness) This then froze - mouse input worked, but I couldn't use my keyboard, and the launcher or desktop icons never showed up.
[15:36] <kokut> cfhowlett: superior as in holy sh** this is blowing my face off** or just,  "it loaded faster"?
[15:36] <jak2000> in a script i have this line: gzip  /home/jmas/ftp/cc.sql    why ask me if i want overwriten(gzip: /home/jmas/ftp/cc.sql.gz already exists; do you wish to overwrite ) how to force overwritten without asking me? thanks
[15:36] <freeone3000> kokut: It's a hard drive. It ain't the second coming of jesus. You're going to get read speeds of 6Gbit, write speeds of 4-6Gbit, and seek times so small they literally cannot be measured.
[15:37] <freeone3000> kokut: However, it's not going to be some magical system upgrade, any more than more RAM was. Your stuff will load faster. Significantly faster. But that's pretty much it.
[15:37] <cfhowlett> kokut, someone somewhere no doubt has the official comparisons.  I only report that I've observed that booting up and finding files is subjectively faster.
[15:38] <kokut> you know how many years i've been waiting to have my first SSD?!?!
[15:38] <cfhowlett> of course, my iitial machine was a 2009, 4gb 50
[15:38] <cfhowlett> kokut, so go for it.  they're cheap now
[15:38] <kokut> now i have it right here, and i'm wondering if ubuntu is worthy of it
[15:38] <freeone3000> kokut: Yes.
[15:38] <k1l> kokut: ssd is a huge perfomance gain
[15:38] <OerHeks> kokut not the read/write times are huge difference, the 0 sec accestime is a huge jump
[15:38] <freeone3000> mcphail: I then created another user. Current procedure is to log in as the secondary user, mount the primary user's hard drive -o bind, then proceed to use system as normal. Which works, except my keyboard's screwy.
[15:39] <k1l> kokut: if you dont believe it just try it yourself
[15:39] <mcphail> freeone3000: that all sounds _very_ nasty
[15:39] <kokut> okay ill install ubuntu on it then i guess :3
[15:39] <freeone3000> mcphail: Well, nobody's got a clue what's wrong.
[15:39] <mcphail> freeone3000: something got badly borked in all of that. Are you running PPAs?
[15:39] <OerHeks> kokut, dont do that, as you don't want to go back ;-D
[15:40] <Fossfile> have a minor issue with Lubuntu, some help will be appreciated: I've installed twice in vmware: once into a real USB drive and the second time to a vmware hard drive. in both installations the system didn't accept the root password that was set during setup (as I'm required to type it for example with sudo/synaptic). It was easily fixable in the USB drive installation
[15:40] <freeone3000> mcphail: openprinting.org is my only non-Canonical PPA.
[15:40] <Fossfile> by simply booting to recovery mode, mounting / as rw and resetting password. with the installation on a hard drive however, for some reason this fix isn't working.
[15:40] <kokut> OerHeks: thats exactly what i'm looking for
[15:41] <freeone3000> mcphail: I have several .debs from third-party sources (hipchat, dropbox, keepass), but none as a PPA.
[15:42] <mcphail> freeone3000: I don't think I'll be able to guide you to repair your system. I admire you for sticking with it
[15:42] <akxwi-dave> SSD's are well worth it, I have Xubuntu 15.04 installed on a ssd on  Lenovo E530 Thinkpad.. once the machine has gone past post, less than 2  to get login
[15:42] <freeone3000> mcphail: What's my other option?
[15:42] <freeone3000> Windows, which works reliably without complaint?
[15:50] <freeone3000> mcphail: Removing ibus and all ibus-* packages managed to get me text input. Applications sitll complain about its absence, and I had to switch from unity to gnome settings managers, but aptitude handled it clean and things seem to work.
[15:51] <freeone3000> Also had to relog, which may or may not be relevant.
[15:51] <queszinon> how can i look at linux debug in raw format?
[15:51] <freeone3000>  queszinon: dmesg
[16:11] <ablest1980> hello i need some help im getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/11736092/
[16:11] <ablest1980> ^
[16:12] <auronandace> ablest1980: have you tried that?
[16:12] <k1l> ablest1980: please pastebin "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[16:13] <ablest1980> yes
[16:13] <ablest1980> ok
[16:15] <ablest1980> doesnt work
 ablest1980: please pastebin "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[16:15] <ablest1980> ok
[16:16] <auronandace> ablest1980: he is trying to get you to show how many kernels you have installed in /boot
[16:16] <ablest1980> ok
[16:16] <ablest1980> isnt working
[16:16] <k1l> ablest1980: what isnt working?
[16:16] <ablest1980> ablest1980@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ "dpkg -l | grep limunx-image"
[16:16] <ablest1980> dpkg -l | grep limunx-image: command not found
[16:17] <ioria> without colon
[16:17] <ablest1980> ok
[16:17] <k1l> ablest1980: copy and paste it without the collons
[16:17] <ioria> linux not limunx
[16:17] <ablest1980> ok lol
[16:19] <ablest1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11736122/
[16:19] <ablest1980> ^
[16:20] <auronandace> ablest1980: so ou got 4 kernels installed in boot, you can use apt-get to remove the two oldest to free up space in /boot
[16:20] <ablest1980> ok
[16:20] <k1l> ablest1980: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic
[16:21] <ablest1980> ok ty
[16:21] <k1l> after that: sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:21] <ablest1980> k
[16:22] <ablest1980> ok done
[16:22] <ablest1980> ty
[16:22] <ablest1980> restart?
[16:23] <k1l> show a "df -h" please
[16:23] <ablest1980> ok
[16:24] <Jagst3r15> hi, are there any official Repos for PHP so I can always sync up the latest version to my server?
[16:24] <auronandace> !latest | Jagst3r15
[16:24] <ablest1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11736142/ k1l
[16:25] <k1l> ablest1980: now you can run the updates
[16:25] <ablest1980> ok
[16:25] <ablest1980> thanks
[16:25] <ablest1980> XD
[16:26] <Jagst3r15> auronandace are there any PPAS with PHP?
[16:27] <auronandace> Jagst3r15: i do not know sorry, but if you plan to use a PPA on an active server beware that they cannot be supported here
[16:28] <Jagst3r15> ok
[16:32] <AngeMort> Salut French ?
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[16:34] <lynkzz> mirc
[16:38] <pokergod> can someone help me with : http://pastebin.com/TBNM1P6b
[16:38] <pokergod> i'm trying to figure out the dependancy problem
[16:39] <rypervenche> pokergod: Are you using a PPA?
[16:39] <k1l> pokergod: and which ubuntu is that exactly?
[16:40] <pokergod> i'm on 15.04
[16:40] <supersmilers> Hi. I tried virtual machines but I don't feel like I got the full experience of ubuntu gnome onmy surface pro 3. Is there a great guide on how to dual boot it with kernel drivers for the type cover 3 ?
[16:40] <k1l> pokergod: is that aptitude?
[16:42] <supersmilers> I tried hyper-v and virtual box but they gives terrible graphics performance
[16:42] <pokergod> yes it's aptitude, i don't know if I have any ppa's that are causing this
[16:42] <anonhq> hai
[16:42] <pokergod> how do you list all the ppas'?
[16:42] <ioria> apt-cache showpkg says dependency is  xorg-input-abi-21   not 20
[16:42] <anonhq> hack
[16:43] <anonhq> jancok
[16:43] <anonhq> jjancok
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> supersmilers  yes, a virtual machine is lsower than a real installation
[16:43] <k1l> pokergod: close aptitude. then please run a "sudo apt update" then please "sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-evdev"
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> slower*
[16:43] <anonhq> njawap po kok asu
[16:43] <supersmilers> Is there a guide on how to dual boot it?
[16:43] <OerHeks> supersmilers, do not expect super 3d performance in a VM, vmware/xen/kvm or virtualbox
[16:44] <k1l> !dualboot  | supersmilers
[16:47] <pokergod> k1l, http://pastebin.com/40twa2ZE
[16:48] <k1l> pokergod: did you run the "sudo apt update"?
[16:48] <pokergod> yes
[16:48] <k1l> please show a "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-input-evdev"
[16:48] <pokergod> i did on that pastebin
[16:49] <k1l> that is not apt-get or apt-cache output.
[16:49] <k1l> but as you see there (aptitude again?) its a ppa that is messing up your system. get rid of that
[16:49] <pokergod> how do you list the ppa's?
[16:49] <pokergod> i can't remember which i've installed
[16:50] <k1l> ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:51] <dupingping> hi everyone, i have found an error of grub2
[16:52] <dupingping> but i don't know how to fix this error,
[16:53] <pokergod> k1l,  weird.. i did;  add-apt-repository --remove ppa:trebelnik-stefina/solaar .. and it left it in /etc/apt/sources.d
[16:53] <pokergod> thanks, iremoved the trebelnik* stuff and it's fixed it
[16:53] <pokergod> thank you again!
[16:53] <k1l> !ppa-purge | pokergod
[16:53] <dupingping> when i enter linux /vmlinuz and then linux /vmlinuz, grub2 is died.
[16:57] <rypervenche> dupingping: Can you show us exactly what and where you are typing and what the output is?
[16:57] <dupingping> in grub2
[16:59] <rypervenche> dupingping: Can you pastebin the output? And if you are more comfortable, we can move this conversation to #ubuntu-cn.
[17:01] <ubuntu-studio> hey
[17:01] <ubuntu-studio> hey _william
[17:02] <ubuntu-studio> hello _km
[17:02] <supersmilers> Is there one that let me chain-load grub2 from windows boot manager?
[17:03] <supersmilers> I like to use windows boot manager rather than grub itself
[17:05] <ioria> http://askubuntu.com/questions/62440/is-it-possible-to-boot-ubuntu-using-the-windows-bootloader
[17:07] <supersmilers> Ah. now I get it but how do i disable hibernation from windows so it wouldn't mess up my dual boot?
[17:08] <k1l> supersmilers: hibternation doesnt mess up the dualboot. you only cant mount the windows partitions from other OS then, like ubunut
[17:11] <supersmilers> I can't shrink windows partition it gives "not enough space" error
[17:12] <k1l> supersmilers: ah ok. yes for resizing it should not be hibernated. but you can shrink it from within windows
[17:15] <supersmilers> there. is 76 GB enough for ubuntu gnome?
[17:16] <k1l> supersmilers: the ubuntu system is fine with ~15GB. the rest is needed for personal data like pictures and music etc that you copy onto it. so 76GB should be fine
[17:17] <supersmilers> does ubuntu gnome work with secureboot?
[17:17] <user07> i
[17:17] <reisio> more like 5GB, isn't it?
[17:17] <user07> Hi everybody from madrid spain
[17:18] <reisio> supersmilers: Ubuntu can work on systems with secureboot, secureboot and GNOME have nothing to do with one another
[17:18] <reisio> user07: hi
[17:19] <ryszek> Where do cloned git repos download to ubuntu 15.04?
[17:20] <ryszek> After running git clone https://github.com/photonstorm/phaser.git
[17:21] <dupingping> at advanced mode of grub2,
[17:21] <dupingping> enter commands as following.
[17:22] <dupingping> linux /vmlinuz
[17:22] <dupingping> linux /vmlinuz
[17:22] <dupingping> when i repeat the commands, grub2 is died exactly.
[17:23] <dearn> ryszek: in running this command will create directory phaser in your current location
[17:26] <Helperx> After extensive research and testing any kernel above 3.13 has issues for the Intel gma 950 and x1300 graphics card can anyone forward this to the kernel dev team
[17:26] <Helperx> And now since Ubuntu upgraded their kernels I have issues with Ubuntu too :(
[17:27] <OerHeks> Helperx, best thing to do is filing a bugreport.
[17:27] <OerHeks> !bug
[17:28] <OerHeks> but thos old card will give you 2d performance, maybe no flash/youtube even.
[17:28] <Helperx> Thanks can anyone tell me what has changed with the kernel to causes blurry screen at times
[17:29] <Helperx> YouTube and everything works as long as you use kernel 3.13 dervivates except html5
[17:30] <Helperx> And google chrome has issues lol
[17:33] <ioria> Helpex according to this your video card is supported : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DemystifyingUnityGraphicsHardwareRequirements
[17:33] <ioria> Helperx^
[17:34] <Helperx> Thanks brb booking at link
[17:35] <ioria> but with 1024x600 screen resolution
[17:35] <Helperx> According to the link by Ionia I should be fine
[17:36] <Helperx> O I see my monitor is 1280x1020 something like that can't remember
[17:36] <histo> Helperx: what video card?
[17:37] <darthanubis> the Intel gma 950 and x1300 graphics card
[17:38] <histo> darthanubis: ?
 After extensive research and testing any kernel above 3.13 has issues for the Intel gma 950 and x1300 graphics card can anyone forward this to the kernel dev team
[17:39] <histo> ahh
[17:39] <histo> lol
[17:40] <darthanubis> :)
[17:41] <steveyh19> hello - I have an issue with compiz where resizing a window induces a 1-2 second delay in the gui and alt tabbing with an opengl game running with vsync takes 1-2 seconds to switch between windows. The problem is very noticable when using firefox and resizing the window - I can effectively make the whole gui freeze just by resizing the window quickly, something that is smooth as butter on windows. I have installed
[17:41] <steveyh19> propietary drivers for my gtx 770. Can anyone help?
[17:41] <Helperx> Yea ahah I've tried every district kernel etc but always went back to Ubuntu lol but recently like other sisters they finally upgraded their kernel which is a problem for the stupid gma lol
[17:42] <darthanubis> I have no issues with the gma in my toshiba
[17:42] <darthanubis> none
[17:42] <Helperx> Uh not sisters meant distro stupid iPad auto correct
[17:42] <darthanubis> two laptops with intel graphics
[17:42] <darthanubis> html5/ flash, etc
[17:43] <Helperx> What version of the gma
[17:44] <Helperx> And kernel are you running
[17:47] <syntax> hello
[17:47] <reisio> hi
[17:47] <histo> Helperx: i'm running intel drivers with out issue as well.
[17:48] <Helperx> I'm talking about specially Intel gma 950 and kernel higher than 3.13 issues
[17:48] <histo> Helperx: 2.99.917-5 with kernel 4.0.5-1
[17:49] <Helperx> What is the Intel model
[17:52] <histo> Helperx: Mobile 4
[17:52] <Helperx> Yea so it's not the same graphics card lol I didn't say all Intel graphics are a problem
[17:56] <mrmoniker> help
[17:56] <drmagoo> steveyh19: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and see if it contains a line "Driver nvidia"
[17:56] <ioria> Helperx, are you using the open source driver ?
[17:57] <darthanubis> ioria, all intel drivers are opensource
[17:57] <ioria> i meant if it were from ppa
[17:57] <Helperx> Well I tried both it doesn't matter still have problems
[17:58] <ioria> ah,ok
[17:58] <Helperx> And org edgers is bad for my issues makes it worse
[17:58] <steveyh19> drmagoo: yeah it does, glxinfo also reports geforce gtx 770/pcie/sse2 as the renderer...so I think everything's install correctly
[18:08] <LeEarl> hello
[18:08] <reisio> 'lo
[18:08] <LeEarl> http://www.amzn.com/B000RLWF7I <- Magic-Joy-Box-PS2-XBOX-Adapter
[18:08] <LeEarl> I got that usb device with GC pad
[18:08] <LeEarl> I want it to work with Ubuntu
[18:09] <reisio> LeEarl: so use it with Ubuntu
[18:09] <LeEarl> resisio how?
[18:10] <LeEarl> I just plugged it in then what?
[18:10] <histo> You put the lime in the coconut
[18:10] <reisio> LeEarl: use it
[18:10] <LeEarl> histo, lime in coconut!
[18:10] <histo> LeEarl: not meant for you
[18:10] <drmagoo> steveyh19: have you tried to disable "animations" in Compiz Configureation Manager ? (compizconfig-settings-manager)
[18:11] <pbx> mouse pointer disappeared in sleep. any way to kick-start it back?
[18:13] <LeEarl> how do I test a joypad in ubuntu?
[18:13] <reisio> !joystick
[18:13] <reisio> !info joystick
[18:14] <steveyh19> drmagoo: this doesn't help
[18:17] <steveyh19> drmagoo: changing default resize mode from normal to anything else obviously fixes the resize issue because the window doesn't need to refresh, however the window switching delay with an game in vsync is still present and this machine is plenty powerful to handle window resizing. I don't have this issue in linux mint
[18:17] <user07> exit
[18:17] <user07> quit
[18:17] <anand_> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[18:29] <awktion> wow so quiet
[18:29] <LeEarl> guys the pad how do I run it?
[18:29] <awktion> anyone have experience making a crypted swap and then mounting it without restart?
[18:29] <pbx> still can't see my mouse pointer, though it's invisibly functioning :)
[18:30] <awktion> /etc/init.d/cryptdisks reload i'm guessing?
[18:31] <awktion> nvm you guys are too slow lol
[18:36] <LeEarl> jscal -c /dev/input/js0
[18:37] <LeEarl> guys I managed to reach there but dunno what to do
[18:38] <Johnny_Linux> pbx  did you try logging out and back in ??
[18:40] <pbx> Johnny_Linux, not yet, i don't need the mouse much for my work so i've been pluggin away hoping to hear an answer here or in work IRC
[18:40] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[18:41] <rusco96> ciao a tutti, ho un problema con il lettore cd.. inserisco il disco ma è come se non funzionasse.. non mi trova nemmeno il cd
[18:41] <america_> hola!
[18:41] <yeiner_> pentaho someone installed in ubuntu?
[18:41] <rusco96> non sos e mi sono spiegato
[18:41] <yeiner_> hola america_
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !it
[18:42] <america_> hi! yeiner
[18:42] <yeiner_> america conoce sobre pentaho ?
[18:43] <pbx> Johnny_Linux, going to the lock screen did the trick
[18:43] <Johnny_Linux> nice
[18:43] <Johnny_Linux> that may be theme related
[18:45] <Guest3564> Hello
[18:49] <LeEarl> so guys this is the device /dev/input/js0
[18:49] <LeEarl> how do I use it with Steam ?
[18:52] <floriantobler> l
[18:52] <floriantobler> ll
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> floriantobler  it works, we see you
[18:52] <andywojo> We're setting up some ubuntu on an IBM POWER 812L at 5PM EST. There's a group of us here, we're going to try and live stream it over at #powerlinux
[18:53] <LeEarl> spam?
[18:53] <andywojo> Nah
[18:53] <LeEarl> invite?
[18:54] <andywojo> Just join #powerlinux :)
[18:55] <LeEarl> andywojo, help me then I will join
[18:55] <andywojo> Uh okay, what's your problem
[18:55] <moondog> my wife has been asking me that for years
[18:56] <Blueking> hmm what's purpose of /boot ?
[18:56] <Blueking> it was full
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> Blueking  try deleting old kernels
[18:57] <f343nc3> Blueking: Where you here yesterday with that and was helped to remove kernels?
[18:58] <Blueking> MonkeyDust hmm one has to do that manual ?
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> Blueking  or with synaptic, or with 3rd party tools
[18:59] <compdoc> Blueking, try: sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:59] <LeEarl> andywojo I never ever used a joystick in Ubuntu before
[18:59] <Blueking> ok
[18:59] <LeEarl> got it running on /dev/input/js0
[18:59] <f343nc3> you have to point at the kernels to remove them
[19:00] <Blueking> just rm * ?
[19:00] <f343nc3> no
[19:00] <LeEarl> compdoc! were not on #efnet ages ago?
[19:00] <bekks> Blueking: Use the package management system for uninstalling.
[19:00] <compdoc> LeEarl, yeah, long time ago
[19:01] <LeEarl> compdoc like #computers with flyback ;D
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> Blueking  what's the outcome of   uname -r
[19:01] <compdoc> flyback is in ##hardware
[19:01] <f343nc3> Blueking: From the command line is a good way, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels     MonkeyDust can take care of you however.
[19:01] <LeEarl> compdoc, so how r u? and what r u doing now?
[19:02] <Blueking> running apt-get update
[19:02] <compdoc> hmm, same thing, I guess - working on computers for a living
[19:02] <compdoc> Blueking, try: sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:02] <LeEarl> compdoc how old r u?
[19:03] <compdoc> old enough to be yur daddy
[19:03] <f343nc3> LeEarl: we stick wuth support here please.
[19:03] <LeEarl> compdoc can I pm u?
[19:03] <compdoc> sure
[19:03] <LeEarl> f343nc3, what support dude! ;D u kijjing meh
[19:03] <LeEarl> I have been asking for 15min nobody answered my joypad Q!
[19:04] <Blueking> didn't need to run autoremove before on old setup  was running without any issues for close 2 years :P
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> LeEarl  repeat your question every 10 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[19:04] <Blueking> ok 54% used on /boot now after autoremove
[19:05] <LeEarl> MonkeyDust, cant u make a bot with a Q queue?
[19:05] <LeEarl> Q2bot ?
[19:07] <Blueking> uname -r -> 3.16.0-39-generic
[19:07] <mluser-laptop> @bar(input):button3@bar(input):button2
[19:07] <mluser-laptop> ooops.. sorry
[19:07] <Blueking> MonkeyDust have to keep more eye on munin :P
[19:09] <ElPasmo> I want to install 15.04 with a separate home partition, what's the minimum size thats suggested for the root partition? I see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace that suggests 15 GB but it seems very little to me... any advice? 50 GB?
[19:10] <teward> ElPasmo: highly subjective between users and use case and other criterion
[19:11] <xangua> ElPasmo: 50 is fine if you have the space, yes. Mine is 20
[19:11] <ElPasmo> thanks all, I'll try 50 GB to be sure not to suffocate :D
[19:12] <andywojo> This is what we're installing Ubuntu on tonight: http://i.imgur.com/GeSNkwx.jpg
[19:14] <cortexman> i'm having issues with the openssh packages. my system is basically broken, i'm not sure why. https://goo.gl/doZopG
[19:14] <bekks> cortexman: Pastebin "sudo apt-get update" please, along with "lsb_release -a"
[19:15] <EriC^^> cortexman: did you install openssh manually and use checkinstall or something?
[19:15] <cortexman> no.
[19:15] <cortexman> i'm on utopic, update works normally
[19:16] <bekks> cortexman: Can you please pastebin the information mentioned above?
[19:16] <cortexman> it has no revealing information
[19:16] <bekks> Not for you maybe.
[19:16] <EriC^^> cortexman: play ball
[19:17] <cortexman> " i told you so " https://gist.githubusercontent.com/brianmingus/3053108310a00df15ea0/raw/40c16a7f1c446ee26d6b25f4a9cf51d316b9405c/gistfile1.txt
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> cortexman  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[19:18] <cortexman> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[19:18] <ElPasmo> What's the terminal command for the startup disk creator on ubuntu? I messed up my launcher removing python (not a very good idea) and I couldnt recover the shortcuts... But I can execute from the terminal any program...
[19:19] <EriC^^> ElPasmo: usb-creator-gtk
[19:19] <sibaar> try gnome-discreator
[19:20] <dgarstang> What package server would people recommend?
[19:20] <ElPasmo> thanks EriC^^
[19:20] <sibaar> try gnome-disk-creator
[19:20] <dgarstang> ie DEB packages
[19:20] <EriC^^> ElPasmo: all the shortcuts are in /usr/share/applications
[19:20] <EriC^^> ElPasmo: no problem
[19:20] <sibaar> EriC^^, do you have a home server?
[19:21] <EriC^^> sibaar: nope
[19:21] <dgarstang> Is there a debian package repo server that supports multiple versions of the same package?
[19:21] <xangua> dgarstang: why don't you just use debian¿
[19:21] <vooze> join #archlinux
[19:21] <vooze> lol
[19:21] <bekks> dgarstang: Ask the debian guys :)
[19:22] <dgarstang> xangua: err, for the packages or for the OS?
[19:22] <filiz955> hi
[19:22] <NuckyNuck> Hi. I just successfully installed Ubuntu 15 as a VM with Vbox. It has 1.8 GB ram assigned, i3 1.5ghz with 3d acceleration enabled. I installed the Unity Tweak tool and disabled search blur. Is there anything else I can do to increase performance?
[19:22] <jimcornette> dgarstang,  what kinda repo ?
[19:23] <dgarstang> jimcornette: for .DEB packages (on Ubuntu)
[19:23] <jimcornette> dgarstang, ofcource but I dont understand the version and codename part
[19:23] <jimcornette> of your question that is
[19:23] <reisio> NuckyNuck: increase video ram for vm
[19:24] <dgarstang> jimcornette: sorry, what don't you understand?
[19:24] <f343nc3>  NuckyNuck, simple desktops go along way in a vn.
[19:24] <f343nc3> vm
[19:24] <NuckyNuck> reisio ok I will try this, thank you.
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> NuckyNuck  better use a lighter DE in a VM
[19:25] <jimcornette> dgarstang,  you wrote "Is there a debian package repo server that supports multiple versions of the same package?"   they all support multi versions, are you trying to make a local repo ?
[19:25] <NuckyNuck> MonkeyDust so this means I need to remove unity and install something else?
[19:25] <dgarstang> jimcornette: yes, and i know from experience that most don't allow two versions of the same package to be in the repo at the same time
[19:25] <arnoldh> why does raid matrix have to wait for the slowest disk even if raid 0 is used?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> NuckyNuck  no, install something else, logout, switch, login
[19:26] <reisio> NuckyNuck: something other than unity would also help, but depending on your graphics hardware, increasing the video ram for the vm will suffice
[19:26] <jimcornette> dgarstang, alot of people use something called reprepro.  and then assign options for each.   That in turn uses a database Berk database and you can have all the versions you want
[19:26] <jimcornette> !dpkg reprepro >> dgarstang
[19:26] <dgarstang> jimcornette: k
[19:27] <NuckyNuck> MonkeyDust By something else you mean remove Ubuntu and get a different distro?
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> NuckyNuck  no, install a lighter desktop environment, lxde or so, then logout, switch, login
[19:28] <NuckyNuck> Ok I understand now. Thank you I will research those.
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> NuckyNuck  inside the VM, that is
[19:29] <jimcornette> dgarstang,  maybe you are looking for something like this ?  https://wiki.debian.org/SettingUpSignedAptRepositoryWithReprepro#Configuring_reprepro   see the conf/distributions  One can also use that for say hosting a debian and a ubuntu and many other distros packages on there own server.  There is also a nice wiki that is on debian's autobuilder network with sbuild suite and wannabuild DB good luck
[19:29] <f343nc3> NuckyNuck: Linux allows you to choose desktops installed at the login, the graphic up is a great idae as well, the default is rather low.
[19:29] <adrian_1908> hello. I'm looking for a good e-book reader for the EPUB format. Anyone experienced with that? The one that comes with Calibre is unusable.
[19:29] <Vespero> Is there a way to dump a list of files (like with ls > output.txt) but only go two folders deep?
[19:30] <NuckyNuck> f343nc3 Ok thx for the explanation I will give this a shot
[19:30] <bekks> Vespero: find . -type f --max-depth=2 ?
[19:30] <histo> Vespero: with find . -type f -depth 2 > output.txt
[19:30] <f343nc3> NuckyNuck: No prob, best. ;)
[19:30] <bekks> ah, it was -depth
[19:30] <Vespero> lemme check that out
[19:30] <DJones> adrian_1908: Have a look at fbreader from the repo's
[19:31] <adrian_1908> DJones: ok, i'll check it out. Have you used it?
[19:31] <DJones> adrian_1908: I've not used the one on ubuntu, but its my default reader on my tablet
[19:32] <histo> bekks: it's maxdepth
[19:32] <reisio> adrian_1908: how's it unusable?
[19:32] <Vespero> It's telling me to specify options before other arguments
[19:32] <NuckyNuck> f343nc3 Is it best to remove Unity completely and then install the new environment?
[19:32] <histo> Vespero: find . -type f -maxdepth 2
[19:32] <histo> jesus typos
[19:32] <reisio> NuckyNuck: best to test new before you bother removing
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> NuckyNuck  no, you don't have to uninstall unity
[19:33] <NuckyNuck> ok thanks guys
[19:33] <Turnip_Green> Anybody know why ones USB 2.0 ports would stop working when upgrading to the 64 bit variant of Ubuntu?
[19:33] <Vespero> Cool, now is there a way to only show folders, not files?
[19:33] <bekks> Vespero: -type d
[19:33] <adrian_1908> reisio: It cannot scroll in fine increments. I need that to keep track since I'm reading code in my ebook.
[19:33] <mistralol> looks like virtualbox in vivid is broken. Seems to crash when starting a ubuntu vivid machines for me. However it does not when using the offical virtualbox version
[19:33] <histo> Vespero: -type d
[19:34] <Vespero> Fantastic, thanks a bunch
[19:34] <f343nc3> NuckyNuck: I would leave unity, it has no affect when running another desktop.
[19:35] <f343nc3> NuckyNuck: You might look at the net install in the future, you can get the lightest setup that way, however it is a simpler gui.
[19:35] <NuckyNuck> Ok. It is downloading in Terminal now. So I will be back to test.
[19:42] <startrix> ?
[19:43] <histo> ?
[19:44] <adrian_1908> DJones: FBReader's font rendering leaves something to be desire and it loads and unloads images that are still in view, but the scrolling is ok. I wish Evince supported EPUB, then I wouldn't need to bother.
[19:45] <colbyf> anyone help me with Dual monitor setup. What I want to do is make each monitor a separate workspace
[19:46] <colbyf> or even separate wallpapers be good
[19:57] <b4tm4n> according to docs, to get openvpn to start on boot, you can modify /etc/openvpn/default at set an AUTOSTART parameter.  I tried this and it worked (or so it seemed).  Because now, even with all AUTOSTART lines commented, the vpn connects on boot.  How do I disable it?
[19:57] <arlin> Helo, something online
[19:59] <arlin> what are doing the people?
[19:59] <arlin> is there somethig programing?
[20:00] <arlin> Now I am doing a basic txt editor for windows users
[20:00] <Pici> arlin: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[20:01] <k1l> arlin: this channel is for support with ubuntu OS. we try to keep it free from chat, for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <HoloPed> is there a guide for making Ubuntu read-only root (or boot?)? For a headless system that experiences a lot of power cuts
[20:05] <bekks> HoloPed: Boot live cd?
[20:06] <LeEarl> arlin learn LUA ;D
[20:06] <HoloPed> bekks, I need to boot from a usb, with some custom scripts and drivers installed
[20:06] <HoloPed> its not a clean OS
[20:06] <HoloPed> there are some stuff that I need to have there
[20:07] <Guest42214> anybody have a good keylogger
[20:08] <Guest42214> looking for a keylogger
[20:08] <LeEarl> Guest42214, does these seems to u like N$A channel?
[20:08] <bekks> Guest42214: Sounds like you are on the wrong channel then ;)
[20:08] <supersmilers> Hi. I tried dual booting ubuntu gnome but I don't know how to chain load grub2 with Windows 8.1 boot GUI as primary bootloader
[20:09] <bekks> !dualboot | supersmilers
[20:09] <FUthomas> man shut the fuck up
[20:09] <FUthomas> why is debian wheezy going lts
[20:09] <LeEarl> FUthomas, !
[20:10] <bekks> FUthomas: Watch your language please, and keep your debian questions to the debian support.
[20:10] <DJones> FUthomas: This is Ubuntu support, you'd need to ask the debian people (and probably politely without swearing)
[20:11] <supersmilers> yea. but easybcd only write windows 7 boot GUI so the boot selector Isn't Windows 8.1 style.
[20:11] <histo> supersmilers: selector?
[20:11] <bekks> supersmilers: Normally, you dont use the windows bootloader for dualbooting.
[20:13] <FUthomas> holy fuck shit the #debian ops fucked me off bad
[20:13] <FUthomas> they banned me FOR NO FUCKING REASON
[20:13] <supersmilers> In this case, on july 29th the Windows 8.1 will auto-upgrade to Windows 10 which could break ubuntu partition in progress
[20:15] <f343nc3> supersmilers: Kind of a unlikely, but always be prepared and backed up......for anything. ;
[20:15] <keksblub> FUthomas: relax
[20:16] <choki> When will encryption issue be fixed and do I ahave to reinstall then my whole system???
[20:16] <supersmilers> its known that windows likes to hoard the main boot sector
[20:16] <choki> This is the stupid issue im talkin about http://askubuntu.com/questions/635378/15-04-swap-wont-stay-decrypted-both-disk-and-home-directory-encrypted
[20:17] <f343nc3> supersmilers: Bad rhetoric, means nothing, you have a long way to go.
[20:17] <fullstack> Hey you guys read that Google Chrome turns on your mic and there is no way to opt out? I want to switch to Chromium but I need it built with the "turn off and opt out of google  spyware" flag? is that turned on in apt-get install chromium-browser?
[20:17] <supersmilers> ok. I guess I should stick to grub as main boot GUI?
[20:18] <bekks> supersmilers: Correct.
[20:20] <supersmilers> Oh well, I'm stuck trying to get the type cover 3 on my surface Pro 3 to work with ubuntu Gnome. Only the wifi, bluetooth, touch screen, and keyboard works not the touchpad on the typecover 3.
[20:22] <supersmilers> How do i get it to work?
[20:24] <supersmilers> maybe with custom kernel?
[20:25] <pbx> supersmilers, i see a lot of hits in google related to this, what have you tried? https://www.google.com/search?q=surface+pro+3+ubuntu+touch
[20:25] <thenewone> Hi
[20:25] <cinar> slm
[20:26] <thenewone> salam ca va
[20:27] <supersmilers> some of the blogs applies to older distro of ubuntu (in this case, 14.04). I have 15.04 and the touchpad doesn't work out of box.
[20:27] <thenewone> can i play game over network wish that game installed on windows box and i'm runing linux box ?
[20:28] <jhutchins> thenewone: rdp
[20:28] <thenewone> i want run that game in background
[20:29] <thenewone> jhutchins, with rdp can i run it in background ?
[20:30] <jhutchins> thenewone: I'm not sure what you're really trying to do, but rdp will connect to the Windows system just like mstsc, and you can run the game remotely.
[20:30] <supersmilers> it's funny. the blog mentions that keyboard doesn't work out of box but the touchpad does. in my case, its the other way around.
[20:31] <jhutchins> supersmilers: Touchscreens are different from touchpads, I'm not sure how the surface 3 would present itself.
[20:31] <jhutchins> supersmilers: You can dmesg | less and see what the system thinks it sees.
[20:32] <supersmilers> the touchpad is part of the type cover. my system is a laptop/tablet hybrid.
[20:33] <thenewone> thanks guys
[20:34] <supersmilers> and the type cover is detachable
[20:37] <supersmilers> I just wondering how I get it to see the type cover properly
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> supersmilers: can you re-ask your question please
[20:41] <supersmilers> lotuspsychje: when I install ubuntu gnome 15.04 alongside windows 8.1 pro, it detects only wifi, bluetooth, touchscreen, and the keyboard part of the type cover 3 (the touchpad part is not working) on my surface pro 3.
[20:41] <supersmilers> I wanted the touchpad part of the type cover to work properly
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> supersmilers: i hear a few users that used a specific kernel on a surface pro 3, did you get that kernel too?
[20:42] <supersmilers> no. I heard it suppose to be included in 3.19 kernel
[20:42] <supersmilers> and it installed 3.19 kernel by default
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> supersmilers: well i didnt test it myself, but i know you might need specific kernel for it cant recall wich one
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> supersmilers: maybe lookup forum specific ubuntu+surface pro3 kernel
[20:43] <supersmilers> maybe i should ask it on reddit on surfacelinux subreddit for more info?
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> supersmilers: or re-ask in here once in a while sure
[20:44] <supersmilers> ok
[20:44] <k1l> supersmilers: the surface devices do have some compatibility issues with linux sind they are made especially for microsoft (which is the maker of windows and has no interesst of supporting linux of course)
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> k1l: check this out mate, this one is for ubuntu gnome: http://www.carlos-roque.com/2015/04/25/dual-boot-gnome-ubuntu-15-04-on-a-surface-pro-3/
[20:51] <k1l> lotuspsychje: ah nice, a custom kernel with patches. good news for the users who want to run it.
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> k1l: will be working smoother then win for sure :p
[21:04] <usertest123123> Hello
[21:04] <grinchier> hello!
[21:07] <usertest123123> Can anybody mention me? I'm testing some stuff here..
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> !test | usertest123123
[21:09] <usertest123123> hey, thanks :) I was testing gnome notification system
[21:13] <gfixler> I think I'm having DNS problems, but I'm a net-idiot
[21:13] <gfixler> I'm visiting the folks in the woods
[21:13] <gfixler> they have Hughesnet
[21:13] <gfixler> satellite internet
[21:13] <gfixler> I can obviously sign in here
[21:13] <gfixler> and I can visit some things, like google and youtube
[21:14] <gfixler> but most links, including those google serves up give me a "server not found" page
[21:15] <gfixler> I'm on an Ubuntu laptop; mom is on Mac laptop/iPad/iMac, and often has these "server not found" problems
[21:15] <gfixler> any ideas?
[21:15] <sikio> gfixler: have you tried to change the dns addresses to something else?
[21:15] <gfixler> sikio: I don't know how
[21:15] <sikio> gfixler: do you know if you have a router?
[21:15] <gfixler> and I'm having trouble googling how, because every result sends me to "server not found" :)
[21:15] <gfixler> there is a hughesnet provided router
[21:16] <sikio> and is it handling the dns address?
[21:16] <sikio> do you know that?
[21:16] <gfixler> sikio: I don't know
[21:16] <sikio> well can you access the router configuration?
[21:16] <gfixler> hmmm, would I be able to do that from a laptop over wifi?
[21:17] <sikio> usually the routers require you to connect via ethernet, but it might work
[21:17] <gfixler> is this through something like 192.168.0.0?
[21:17] <sikio> yes
[21:17] <gfixler> and do I just guess around for the numbers?
[21:17] <sikio> and the address depends on what its address in lan is
[21:18] <sikio> no :)
[21:18] <sikio> ifconfig -a in terminal should tell you which address it has
[21:19] <gfixler> I have eth0, lo, and wlan0
[21:20] <sikio> wlan0 is the interface I believe
[21:20] <sikio> what does the inet addr part say
[21:20] <gfixler> I have 5 inet6 addrs
[21:20] <auronandace> that tells you your IP, it doesn't tell you the IP of the router
[21:21] <gfixler> these are some big numbers
[21:21] <sikio> well usually it is something like 192.168.1.1
[21:21] <gfixler> fd0d:edc3:etc for all 5
[21:21] <auronandace> ipv6
[21:22] <gfixler> yeah, ipv6, I guess
[21:22] <gfixler> can I stick these in the address bar?
[21:23] <gfixler> there's also an HWaddr: c8:f7:etc
[21:23] <sikio> eh are you sure you're using the ipv6 standard?
[21:24] <gfixler> sikio: on my machine?
[21:24] <brainwash> !nomodeset
[21:24] <GarethTheGreat> just out of curiosity, is it normal for the updates manager to run painfully slow compared to an "apt-get upgrade"?
[21:24] <sikio> in your lan network?
[21:24] <GarethTheGreat> sikio: Your Local Area Network Network?
[21:24] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: define slow?
[21:24] <gfixler> sikio: no idea - I just connect to the wifi when I visit
[21:24] <sikio> GarethTheGreat: sorry not replying to you
[21:24] <GarethTheGreat> lotuspsychje: been running for a few hours now
[21:25] <brainwash> maybe it got stuck
[21:25] <gfixler> and this time I'm getting a lot of "server not found," and apparently mom has been too
[21:25] <GarethTheGreat> no, it's still running
[21:25] <GarethTheGreat> just really slowly
[21:25] <brainwash> bad download mirror?
[21:25] <GarethTheGreat> i'm used to using apt-get from a terminal, decided to use the updates manager
[21:25] <GarethTheGreat> it's downloaded all the packages, just taking forever to install them
[21:26] <brainwash> that is odd
[21:26] <GarethTheGreat> usually it takes about 20-30 minutes max when done with apt-get from a terminal
[21:26] <sikio> gfixler: try pasting this in the terminal: nm-tool | grep -i gateway | xargs echo | cut -d' ' -f2
[21:27] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: does your other network downloads go fast? like downing an ubuntu iso?
[21:27] <gfixler> sikio: okay - what should I look for?
[21:27] <GarethTheGreat> lotuspsychje: it's already downloaded the packages
[21:27] <sikio> does it give you some output
[21:27] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: no, i mean http downloads, to test your speed
[21:27] <sikio> gfixler: do you know if your router has a password?
[21:27] <GarethTheGreat> yeah, i see stuff happening, it's just really slow
[21:28] <gfixler> sikio: not sure
[21:28] <GarethTheGreat> lotuspsychje: 3mbps, and as said - it's already downloaded the packages, they're just taking ages to install
[21:28] <gfixler> sikio: that pipeline gave me the same addresses with a lot more info around them (all ipv6 stuff)
[21:28] <sikio> you might want to look that up if you want to access it
[21:28] <GarethTheGreat> it's not a major issue to be honest, i'm just curious if the updates manager is known to be slower
[21:28] <GarethTheGreat> i thought it was just a graphical frontend to apt-get
[21:28] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: slow as in hours cant be normal right
[21:29] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: something bottlenecks you
[21:29] <GarethTheGreat> so in short, it ain't normal
[21:29] <brainwash> it's the same backend
[21:29] <sikio> gfixler: okay, it might be that I can't help you
[21:29] <GarethTheGreat> very weird then
[21:30] <brainwash> well, check your log files
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: router or firewall?
[21:30] <GarethTheGreat> lotuspsychje: it's not a networking issue
[21:30] <GarethTheGreat> it downloaded the packages at a reasonable speed
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: just the install part slow?
[21:30] <GarethTheGreat> exactly
[21:30] <GarethTheGreat> if it was a slow download i'd just put it down to crappy wifi
[21:30] <sikio> gfixler: you could try to figure out how to access the router and change the dns addresses to manual, and use google dns addresses for example
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: and terminal way, install fast?
[21:30] <gfixler> sikio: that's what I'd like to do
[21:31] <GarethTheGreat> lotuspsychje: yeah, if i invoke apt-get in a terminal, it takes 20-30 minutes max
[21:31] <gfixler> sikio: or openDNS (that's a thing, right?)
[21:31] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: 30 min to update?
[21:31] <sikio> yeah I personally just prefer the google ones
[21:31] <GarethTheGreat> it's now 10:30, it's been doing the install phase since 9:00
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: wich ubuntu version?
[21:32] <GarethTheGreat> 12.04
[21:32] <GarethTheGreat> ah wait!
[21:32] <GarethTheGreat> it's doing a dist-upgrade
[21:32] <GarethTheGreat> that would be why
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: lol
[21:32] <GarethTheGreat> slap me with a stupid stick
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: to wich version
[21:32] <GarethTheGreat> to 14.04
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: ah great, you gonna love it good luck!
[21:33] <GarethTheGreat> i only really use this machine for music stuff
[21:33] <Johnny_Linux> go get dinner
[21:33] <GarethTheGreat> take it to gigs to control my guitar amp
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: bon apetit!
[21:33] <GarethTheGreat> my other boxes all run debian or BSD
[21:34] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: we can only advise you ubuntu here of course
[21:34] <GarethTheGreat> lotuspsychje: i know
[21:34] <GarethTheGreat> being honest i'm not that much of an ubuntu fan for most things, though i do recommend it to friends and relatives coming from windows
[21:36] <GarethTheGreat> installed it on this laptop as the MIDI software i was using happened to have an ubuntu package that "just works"
[21:36] <lotuspsychje> GarethTheGreat: lets keep this ontopic mate :p
[21:36] <GarethTheGreat> heh, ok
[21:36] <GarethTheGreat> that was sorta ontopic, it was praise for the "just works" nature of ubuntu
[21:37] <elliefitzy> I am trying to transfer a library from windows to ubuntu (it is multiplatform), but I cant seem to install it. Do you have to install libraries on linux like you do on windows?
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | GarethTheGreat feel free to join here
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> elliefitzy: wich package are we talking about?
[21:38] <elliefitzy> it is not a publically available package
[21:38] <lotuspsychje> elliefitzy: but do you have bit more details of your plan?
[21:39] <elliefitzy> lotuspsychje: my plan?
[21:40] <kokut> hey someone has to fix the links on ubuntu.com ftp://ftp.rediris.es/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/releases14.04.2/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso is not the right link
[21:40] <lotuspsychje> elliefitzy: yes, what are you trying to do exactly?
[21:40] <k1l> kokut: ?
[21:40] <asdfasdfk> hello?
[21:40] <asdfasdfk> hello>?
[21:40] <lotuspsychje> asdfasdfk: can we help you?
[21:40] <asdfasdfk> yea
[21:40] <kokut> the download link is wrong
[21:40] <asdfasdfk> so when u choose erase disk and install ubuntu, what does it do to multiple hard drives?
[21:41] <kokut> ftp://ftp.rediris.es/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.2/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso right link
[21:41] <k1l> kokut: the link is to a mirror. just try again and you get another mirror if that is down
[21:41] <kokut> nope i already tried
[21:41] <elliefitzy> lotuspsychje: I am trying to access the .lib files avaliable on linux. I am working with a haptic device called the omega 7. I need to be able to access the functions to control the device.
[21:41] <asdfasdfk>  so when u choose erase disk and install ubuntu, what does it do to multiple hard drives?
[21:41] <asdfasdfk> ???
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> !patience | asdfasdfk
[21:42] <asdfasdfk> i dont think theres an answer i googled
[21:42] <asdfasdfk> at least say 'idk' somebody
[21:43] <asdfasdfk>  so when u choose erase disk and install ubuntu, what does it do to multiple hard drives??
[21:43] <k1l> asdfasdfk: it should erase the first disk. but to be sure you should a) remove the other disks or b) make a manual partitioning.
[21:43] <moondog> I would think your best bet, if you want to know exactly what it will do to your drives, is to not take the automatic option
[21:43] <asdfasdfk> ok thx
[21:43] <k1l> asdfasdfk: and if you dont stop to be annoying you get set out of the door.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> asdfasdfk: I do expect it to only operate on the one hard drive selected .
[21:44] <asdfasdfk> i meant like a /home partition
[21:44] <asdfasdfk> is that only manual
[21:44] <asdfasdfk> bye illl just do manaul
[21:44] <moondog> brilliant!
[21:45] <Bashing-om> asdfasdfk: Well, If the /home is on the drive selected AND not specifically unchecked to be formatted .. then that /home is history .
[21:46] <Df3D2> so I just got an intel 750 series pcie-ssd... it shows up in fdisk as Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 400.1 GB, 400088457216 bytes  I used dd to clone my windows ssd. So now it also has Disk /dev/nvme0n1p1  problem is, gparted doesn't see the device at all? so I can resize the partition to the right size
[21:47] <JinjaNinja> Any chans for Ubuntu GNOME? Is this channel fine for that?
[21:48] <lotuspsychje> JinjaNinja: #ubuntu-gnome
[21:48] <k1l> JinjaNinja: you can ask here or in #ubuntu-gnome
[21:50] <JinjaNinja> To anyone who has used Ubuntu Gnome distro (or currently does)... Is there any way at all to create an app category folder, to organize apps within the application launcher of GNOME DE?
[21:51] <JinjaNinja> There used to be a way to do it, but they've taken it away. I was wondering if anyone knows of a work around for this, or a simple Python script
[21:52] <colbyf> Is here a way to create your own categories and move programs around categories in Unity
[21:52] <colbyf> hhaa
[21:52] <JinjaNinja> What...?
[21:53] <colbyf> quite similar
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> colbyf: there is a classicmenu indicator
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> colbyf: puts all programs/settings into categories
[21:53] <colbyf> but try unity lauchers folders
[21:53] <colbyf> I will try that thanks
[21:54] <lotuspsychje> !info classicmenu-indicator | colbyf
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> colbyf  scroll down to 'unity folders'... is this what you mean? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/11/useful-tools-for-ubuntu-do-you-use-them
[21:55] <colbyf> sweet got it installed, perfect, I can now nosy easily at what I have installed randomly today lol
[21:56] <colbyf> thats my next step MonkeyDust thankyou, that be so handy also
[21:56] <JinjaNinja> I was hoping for a solution to have different application category folders in Gnome Desktop environment. I believe, in the earlier releases of GNOME DE, there used to be 2 category folders: "Utilities" and "Sundry"
[21:56] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: +1 didnt know that1 :p
[21:57] <colbyf> well thanks to you both, you have just made my day a bit easier
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  yes, i use it myself too, very neat
[21:57] <lotuspsychje> colbyf: you know where to find us for handy packages
[21:57] <colbyf> i do :)
[22:00] <JinjaNinja> Does anyone know of a way to get app category folders on GNOME? And no, I'm not looking for something like 'Alecarte'. I was wanting something more elegant. Kind of like app folders on a mobile phone.
[22:00] <colbyf> JinjaNinja, have you tired a gnome channel
[22:01] <colbyf> they may be able to help more
[22:01] <JinjaNinja> colbyf: I have... There's only like 20 members on the channel lol
[22:01] <lotuspsychje> JinjaNinja: can this help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/210918/how-to-edit-gnome-unity-menus-without-using-alacarte
[22:01] <colbyf> ahh you need to connect to a different IRC
[22:01] <colbyf> or server
[22:02] <colbyf> could be wrong can't remember
[22:03] <JinjaNinja> lotuspsychje: The solution seems to be pretty much the same thing. I'll show you what I'm talking about. In earlier releases of GNOME, there used to be a way to do what I'm talking about. I'll give you a screenshot of what it looks like
[22:03] <colbyf> in synaptic package manager there is a yellow sun next to some packages, anyone know what the icon represents
[22:03] <k1l> synaptics package manager is so 2002 :)
[22:03] <Johnny_Linux> happy packages ??
[22:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[22:04] <colbyf> lol
[22:04] <colbyf> :)
[22:04] <colbyf> synaptics package manger is great, well I used to using the AUR so it feels familiar to me
[22:05] <colbyf> pamac i mean
[22:05] <k1l> colbyf: can you provide a screenshot?
[22:05] <colbyf> sure
[22:06] <lotuspsychje> colbyf: maybe you mean the package is marked icon next to it?
[22:06] <JinjaNinja> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/overwhelcming.jpg As you can see, "utilities" and "sundry" are app folders on this older version of gnome. the option to create folders with ease is no longer available :/
[22:06] <k1l> or the ubuntu logo next to it?
[22:07] <colbyf> https://imgur.com/hWaYeia
[22:07] <k1l> that should be the ubuntu logo
[22:08] <colbyf> ok to represent ubuntu specific packages
[22:08] <k1l> and that shows a "package is supported by ubuntu"
[22:08] <colbyf> ah ok
[22:08] <colbyf> thanks
[22:09] <lotuspsychje> JinjaNinja: not sure, never used that before
[22:10] <lotuspsychje> JinjaNinja: wich version are you on?
[22:10] <JinjaNinja> Ubuntu GNOME 15.04
[22:11] <lotuspsychje> JinjaNinja: had this issue on other versions too?
[22:12] <lotuspsychje> JinjaNinja: you could try a 14.04 liveusb to test perhaps?
[22:13] <JinjaNinja> This is my first time with GNOME. I LOVE this desktop environment. The only drawback is the lack of app drawer creation
[22:13] <colbyf> they have removed it
[22:13] <JinjaNinja> I'm actually reading about it online
[22:13] <colbyf> you need to downgrade or use a hack
[22:14] <JinjaNinja> what type of hack xD
[22:14] <colbyf> I dont know lol :P
[22:14] <JinjaNinja> https://developer.gnome.org/AppFolders/
[22:14] <JinjaNinja> Idk, maybe this is an app drawer?
[22:15] <JinjaNinja> Or maybe this is a boring gnome hierarchy thing like Alacarte
[22:16] <colbyf> Try gnome-catgen https://github.com/prurigro/gnome-catgen
[22:16] <colbyf> Not a perfect solution, but a LOT easier then current methods.
[22:16] <colbyf> dont know if its any good just passing ideas
[22:17] <colbyf> https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/32jqcw/gnome_316_and_i_still_cant_organise_icons_into/
[22:17] <JinjaNinja> I'll try gnome-catgen and I'll report back if I experience issues. Thanks so much!
[22:17] <colbyf> good luck
[22:23] <designbybeck> Ubuntu 14.04 64bit - Sound works fine through speakers, plug in headset, sound works through headset just fine, unplug headset, no sound through speakers
[22:23] <designbybeck> not even stopping and starting the serve seems to work, I have to reboot everytime I'm done using my headset to get my speakers working agian
[22:23] <designbybeck> suggestions?
[22:24] <colbyf> I use this it may help
[22:24] <colbyf> indicator-sound-switcher
[22:24] <tevas> yes
[22:24] <tevas> ^^^
[22:27] <designbybeck> what ist hat colbyf
[22:28] <colbyf> screenshot 1 sec
[22:28] <designbybeck> you mean just sound settings and change the input? I've tried that
[22:29] <colbyf> what about the output
[22:29] <colbyf> check both
[22:30] <ElelElelElel> Hi
[22:31] <JinjaNinja> colbyf: Damn, this is hard stuff. Gnome-catgen is a bit advanced for my taste xD I wish there was a gnome-catgen for dummies xD
[22:32] <GarethTheGreat> just compiled a kernel module and tried to load it, dmesg gives "module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing"
[22:32] <colbyf> sorry, try the other link, people ere chattng about it in reddit
[22:33] <colbyf> or see if there is a youtube vid
[22:33] <GarethTheGreat> running kernel 3.13-0.55-lowlatency
[22:33] <GarethTheGreat> how do i get it to load a module i just compiled?
[22:34] <ElelElelElel> oops
[22:35] <designbybeck> sorry i menat output colbyf
[22:36] <veritoo> Hi someone free!
[22:36] <veritoo> I need help with to print
[22:37] <designbybeck> colbyf, it worked when I unplugged and manually switchec back. I thought it use to do it automatically
[22:37] <designbybeck> so it is working for the time being! Thanks for your help colbyf
[22:38] <colbyf> :P
[22:38] <GarethTheGreat> so, anyone know how to get a module to load without recompiling the kernel to disable signing?
[22:46] <GarethTheGreat> turns out i had to pass a param to the kernel to disable module signature verification
[23:12] <deweydb> does anyone know why when i install trimage with ubuntu package manager (apt-get install trimage), it creates two trimage.py files. 1) /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/trimage/trimage.py  & 2) /usr/share/pyshared/trimage/trimage.py
[23:13] <deweydb> when does the system decide which file it uses: 1 or 2 ?
[23:20] <kp2o> salut tout le monde
[23:20] <kp2o> iy a des francais ?
[23:20] <k1l> !fr | kp2o
[23:24] <ki7rw> strange, i re-installed ubuntu 14.04 and now cpufrequtils doesn't work
[23:41] <neonixcoder> I want to use kernel v3.17 in Trusty.. Is it possible?
[23:42] <neonixcoder> I know I can upgrade kernel but do ubuntu have official support for this version in Trusty release?
[23:42] <neonixcoder> I see here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ only v3.15* is supported..
[23:42] <k1l> neonixcoder: see enablement stack for official support
[23:42] <k1l> !enablementstack | neonixcoder
[23:43] <k1l> !mainline | neonixcoder this is not officially supported since they are testing kernels
[23:43] <neonixcoder> Thanks guys..
[23:43] <neonixcoder> Let me have a look..!
[23:44] <gambl0re> im running ubuntu in virtualbox and its pretty slow. any suggestions how to improve performance? i already did research but nothing resolved. thanks
[23:45] <neonixcoder> k1l:I am looking specifically for versions > 3.16.. anything after that is fine as one my requirements are patched in 3.16v.
[23:45] <gambl0re> i already gave vb like 50% of my ram
[23:45] <bekks> gambl0re: how much ram do you have?
[23:45] <gambl0re> so many...
[23:45] <gambl0re> its a good laptop..
[23:45] <bekks> gambl0re: how much ram do you have?
[23:45] <k1l> neonixcoder: there should be a 3.19 backports kernel already in the trusty repo for testing the new 14.04.3 kernel which is the vivid backports kernel
[23:45] <gambl0re> a lot...
[23:46] <bekks> gambl0re: last time: how much ram do you have?
[23:46] <gambl0re> 4GB
[23:46] <gambl0re> i gave the vm half
[23:46] <quetzalcoatl> holiiii
[23:46] <bekks> gambl0re: and which desktop environment do you use in your ubuntu in your virtualbox vm?
[23:46] <gambl0re> ubuntu 14
[23:46] <bekks> gambl0re: thats not a desktop environment, nor a valid version.
[23:46] <gambl0re> what?
[23:47] <kostkon> gambl0re, did you enable guest extensions to get 3d support
[23:47] <bekks> gambl0re: Do you use Unity, Gnome, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc.?
[23:47] <neonixcoder> k1l:How can I list all available kernel for Trusty, so that I can install one which satisfies my requirement.
[23:47] <kostkon> guest additions*
[23:47] <gambl0re> exact file name of iso ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64
[23:47] <k1l> neonixcoder: see the enablement stack wiki page
[23:47] <gambl0re> i installed guest addtions
[23:47] <gambl0re> how do i check that
[23:47] <kostkon> gambl0re, did you reboot the vm?
[23:48] <gambl0re> i installed guest additions long time ago. ive been using ubuntu for few months now
[23:48] <gambl0re> so i rebooted over 100 times
[23:48] <k1l> !info linux-generic-lts-vivid
[23:49] <k1l> !info trusty linux-generic-lts-vivid
[23:49] <k1l> !info linux-generic-lts-vivid trusty | neonixcoder
[23:49] <gambl0re> how do i check if im using unity or something else
[23:49] <gambl0re> im probably using unity as my gui?
[23:50] <bekks> gambl0re: Dont use Unity in a VM, for performance reasons.
[23:51] <gambl0re> but how do i check to make sure
[23:51] <tona> hi
[23:51] <gambl0re> and how do i disable it if i am using it?
[23:51] <tona> i have configured the network but it doens work any idea
[23:51] <tona> iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.254
[23:51] <tona> i sued these calues
[23:52] <jesus__> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
[23:52] <jesus__> that will show your desktop name
[23:52] <gambl0re> it only says ubuntu
[23:53] <jesus__> then probably is unity
[23:53] <BrunoPT> tona: did you restart the computer? or the network service?
[23:53] <bekks> gambl0re: Install another desktop environment, select it upon the login screen.
[23:53] <k1l> that is unity
[23:53] <gambl0re> im already running ubuntu....
[23:54] <gambl0re> is there another way to improve performance other than using a different environment?
[23:54] <jesus__> try this echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[23:54] <gambl0re> isnt there any settings i can change
[23:54] <bekks> gambl0re: Thats why you should install another desktop environment, like: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:54] <bazhang> more ram
[23:54] <tona> i have restarted and nothing work
[23:54] <k1l> gambl0re: slow in what means?
[23:54] <tona> still with set one ip
[23:54] <gambl0re> i said settings...not buying new hardware
[23:54] <bekks> gambl0re: More RAM, physical 3D hardware, which is impossible in a VM.
[23:54] <tona> stil without put the ip address
[23:54] <jesus__> you can try using lubuntu
[23:54] <kostkon> gambl0re, did you enable and install the additions for that particular vm? I'm asking becuase you said you did that long time ago
[23:55] <k1l> gambl0re: is the host under load, too? does it have a ssd? what is the cpu? what is the gpu?
[23:55] <gambl0re> yes im 1000% sure i installed guest additions for this vm
[23:55] <kostkon> gambl0re, ok
[23:56] <gambl0re>  $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP = no unity command found
[23:56] <gambl0re> how much ram does it need?
[23:56] <bekks> gambl0re: "more".
[23:56] <gambl0re> i gave it so much already..
[23:57] <bekks> gambl0re: granting even more will slow down your host.
[23:58] <gambl0re> so no other suggestions besides buying more ram or installing new environment?
 gambl0re: is the host under load, too? does it have a ssd? what is the cpu? what is the gpu?
[23:58] <gambl0re> host is NOT under load...
[23:59] <gambl0re> its like flying throught the mountains...im free like a bird. i can do anytihng i want
[23:59] <gambl0re> no ssd
[23:59] <k1l> gambl0re: i asked A LOT more than just that. and specific details will lead to specific solutions. "my car is black" is just not helping to repair a car.
[23:59] <gambl0re> i3 2.1 GHz
[23:59] <gambl0re> 4GB ram
[23:59] <gambl0re> windows 7