| ahoneybun | \o/ | 00:05 |
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| ahoneybun | anyone have the oxygen theme when they are changing their sound volume? | 00:42 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell_: can I get access to the docs.k.org server? | 03:27 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:21 |
| sick_rimmit | Good morning to you sir :-) | 08:35 |
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| BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:09 |
| BluesKaj | hi again | 11:17 |
| soee_ | hiho BluesKaj | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | Hey soee_ | 12:15 |
| Riddell_ | ahoneybun: you already do, username is ahoneybun | 12:48 |
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| ahoneybun | Riddell: how do you login though? | 14:46 |
| clivejo | hummmm my kdeconnect has stopped working totally now | 15:19 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: ssh? | 16:18 |
| Riddell | clivejo: mine stops working randomly for no good reason :( | 16:18 |
| ahoneybun | I have no idea the IP and pass | 16:18 |
| Riddell | clivejo: when are we going to finish this packaging stuff? | 16:18 |
| Riddell | did you get anywhere with kamoso? | 16:19 |
| Riddell | I'm back in EU timezone now | 16:19 |
| Riddell | and feeling jetlagged | 16:19 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: did you see the current Manual? | 16:19 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: maybe, I was even more jetlagged yesterday so I didn't take it in, what's new? | 16:20 |
| ahoneybun | I have some awesome things up | 16:20 |
| ahoneybun | on a server I have access to | 16:20 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: http://192.254.78.155/ | 16:20 |
| Riddell | looking funky ahoneybun, how did you generate that? | 16:21 |
| ahoneybun | Sphinx | 16:21 |
| Riddell | and did you consider the idea of just dropping the generated version and pointing the site towards the wiki? | 16:21 |
| ahoneybun | I just got that up for the moment | 16:22 |
| ahoneybun | the idea is to move from wiki | 16:22 |
| ahoneybun | for the Manual anyway | 16:22 |
| ahoneybun | that everyone Project not just Kubuntu to be written in reST | 16:23 |
| clivejo | Riddell: I got it working on my own machine | 16:25 |
| Riddell | clivejo: ooh exiting | 16:25 |
| Riddell | clivejo: did you upload to a PPA? | 16:25 |
| clivejo | but cant get it to build on LP | 16:26 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: why? what's wrong with the wiki? | 16:26 |
| ahoneybun | I want all the projects to use a similar language (reST) and have the Manuals all on LP | 16:26 |
| clivejo | Kubuntu has a philosophy! | 16:26 |
| Riddell | we do? I hope it's friendly | 16:27 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: in bzr? that'll increase the barrier to entry again no? | 16:27 |
| clivejo | packaging is NOT friendly | 16:27 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: the idea is having a core location will make it easier to find | 16:28 |
| ahoneybun | they can branch the Manual and fix typos and such | 16:28 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSxGaSy-8s | 16:29 |
| Riddell | clivejo: no it's not, that's why we do it so our users don't have to | 16:30 |
| clivejo | Riddell: its the package dependancies that is annoying me | 16:32 |
| clivejo | so its compiling fine on my box, but not on LP | 16:33 |
| Riddell | clivejo: needs Qt5OpenGLConfig.cmake | 16:33 |
| Riddell | clivejo: I'm afraid there's no quick way to do that | 16:33 |
| clivejo | and the only way I know of fixing it is trail and error | 16:33 |
| Riddell | pretty much yes | 16:33 |
| Riddell | you can use pbuilder-dist to compile it fresh each time same as launchpad does so you don't need to upload it to launchpad | 16:34 |
| Riddell | but it still takes an age | 16:34 |
| Riddell | you can read the CMakeLists.txt to look for what qt a kf5 dependencies it wants and add those as build deps | 16:34 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: so this does not look good? http://192.254.78.155/ | 16:34 |
| Riddell | but that's not usually complete | 16:34 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: looks lovely | 16:34 |
| clivejo | I was thinking of making a VM image of a basic install | 16:34 |
| Riddell | clivejo: nah pbuilder is where it's at | 16:34 |
| Riddell | or just a local chroot | 16:34 |
| Riddell | using debootstrap | 16:35 |
| Riddell | pbuilder-dist create wily | 16:35 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: sphinx provides epub converting as well | 16:35 |
| clivejo | any resources on that | 16:35 |
| Riddell | pbuilder-dist build foo.dsc | 16:35 |
| clivejo | need to do some reading | 16:35 |
| ahoneybun | so the Manual now has a epub | 16:35 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: you need more pretty pictures | 16:35 |
| clivejo | I like pictures | 16:35 |
| Riddell | clivejo: pbuilder is a tool for making a chroot, compiling the package in the chroot and sputting out the result and pbuilder-dist adds some improvements like managing multiple distro releases and keeping logs around | 16:36 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo: agreed | 16:36 |
| Riddell | clivejo: pbuilder-dist create wily to start | 16:36 |
| ahoneybun | still a WIP | 16:36 |
| Riddell | actually maybe the other way around: pbuilder-dist wily create | 16:36 |
| Riddell | then add universe by logging int pbuilder-dist wily login --save-after-login | 16:36 |
| clivejo | just at a terminal | 16:36 |
| Riddell | apt install nano and edit sources.list | 16:37 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: I moved all the Wiki text to reST so far and made a project on LP: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-manual | 16:37 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: can I ask what are the main issues with media wiki? | 16:37 |
| sick_rimmit | Hey ahoneybun Good job on the Wiki | 16:37 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo: that every Ubuntu based project uses MoinMoin for some reason and Sphinx/reST provide awesome features | 16:39 |
| ahoneybun | and it is easy to learn over LaTeX | 16:39 |
| ahoneybun | sick_rimmit: thanks | 16:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | is today's meeting still happening? | 16:40 |
| clivejo | Riddell: is there any way to cache package files? | 16:40 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: there is talk in #ubuntu-meeting but seems a lot of people are unavaiable | 16:41 |
| clivejo | seems to be downloading an entire system :/ | 16:41 |
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| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: sladen is organising a meeting in 20 mins, but he seems to have missed out the important part of oranising a meeting which is to schedule people to be there | 16:42 |
| Riddell | clivejo: yes that's the point, apt will cache packages as much as it can | 16:43 |
| clivejo | surely I should ahve all these packages in the cache as they are installed on my system? | 16:44 |
| sladen | Riddell: I've tried to help the meeting that was suggested by another happen | 16:44 |
| sladen | Riddell: it may or may not, .... anything that gets a ball rolling is good | 16:44 |
| sladen | Riddell: even if it's simply working out whom might setup a doodle for a meeting of their own organisation | 16:45 |
| clivejo | oh kdeconnect is back again | 16:45 |
| clivejo | weird | 16:45 |
| soee | hmm, soon windows will boot faster than k/ubutnu | 16:47 |
| yofel | since we switched to systemd, win7 and kubuntu boot about equally fast | 16:47 |
| yofel | win might actually be a bit faster | 16:47 |
| yofel | mountall in systemd takes considerably longer than in upstart | 16:48 |
| clivejo | upgrade to Wins 8, that will soon slow it down | 16:48 |
| soee | yesterday i jumped to Wily rom Vivid and booting time is a bit longer i thn | 16:48 |
| Riddell | I just bought a new laptop, was amuzing to see it came with windows 8 but you could pay extra for an upgrade to windows 7 | 16:48 |
| clivejo | Riddell: format it | 16:49 |
| soee | w7 ? :) | 16:49 |
| clivejo | win8 is rubbish | 16:49 |
| yofel | I never bothered upgrading to 8, I'll get 10 next month | 16:49 |
| Riddell | clivejo: oh I did :) | 16:49 |
| soee | hmm ksysguard does not liek kuuntu-desktop | 16:49 |
| clivejo | it goes against my grain | 16:49 |
| clivejo | bit like unity | 16:50 |
| clivejo | a computer is a tool to help you be more productive, not fight you at every task | 16:51 |
| clivejo | anyhow, Im hungry and ordering a chinese takeaway! | 16:52 |
| clivejo | Ill leave dbuilder to do whatever its doing! | 16:52 |
| soee | well i don't know W8, its like 3-4 years now since im on kubuntu and only ocassionaly run w7 to do some image proessing stuff :) | 16:53 |
| soee | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11741153/ | 16:55 |
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| ahoneybun | Riddell: you have a Kubuntu table cloth? | 18:09 |
| Riddell | no, paul made that up | 18:09 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 18:20 |
| Riddell | clivejo: I'll shut down this ec2 as we're not using it | 18:31 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 19:36 |
| _Groo_ | stupid question but is dolphin working with baloo from kubuntu-ci? | 19:37 |
| _Groo_ | the plasma search and krunner work with baloo, but dolphin cant find it | 19:37 |
| clivejo | Riddell: ping | 19:52 |
| clivejo | anyone know how to get pbuilder to install build tools automatically? | 20:04 |
| clivejo | the--variant=buildd option? | 20:11 |
| clivejo | well that didnt work | 20:26 |
| Riddell | clivejo: it'll install build-essential along with the build of the package | 20:27 |
| Riddell | clivejo: what command are you running and what's not working? | 20:27 |
| clivejo | dget isnt working | 20:28 |
| clivejo | surely thats an essential build tool | 20:28 |
| Riddell | the whole point of pbiulder is it is a minimal chroot just as launchpad build daemons use | 20:28 |
| Riddell | but why are you using dget? | 20:28 |
| Riddell | the whole point is to use pbuilder-dist build *dsc to build a package | 20:29 |
| clivejo | to grab my package from ppa | 20:29 |
| Riddell | do that on your system | 20:29 |
| clivejo | its on my system? | 20:29 |
| Riddell | then run pbuilder-dist wily build *dsc | 20:29 |
| Riddell | where *dsc is the .dsc file for the package you want to build | 20:29 |
| clivejo | oh | 20:29 |
| clivejo | I was trying to do it from inside | 20:30 |
| clivejo | pbuilder-dist wily login --save-after-login | 20:30 |
| Riddell | use that to edit sources.list to add universe and apt update | 20:30 |
| Riddell | then leave with control-d | 20:30 |
| clivejo | ah | 20:30 |
| Riddell | then use it to build your package | 20:30 |
| clivejo | got ya now | 20:30 |
| clivejo | so you wanted me to install nano within the environment | 20:31 |
| clivejo | let me try it again | 20:31 |
| clivejo | I need to reboot, seems to be another kernel update in wily | 20:32 |
| Riddell | I sometimes use nano, sometimes I work out the sed command | 20:36 |
| Riddell | which is faffy mainly because I switch between UK, US and spanish keyboards and the quote key moves around | 20:36 |
| clivejo | Im rebuilding the environment | 20:37 |
| clivejo | was trying to fix it myself | 20:37 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: stop switching? :P | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: what time is it there >.> | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | ah 11 | 20:42 |
| clivejo | is he not back in the UK? | 20:42 |
| Riddell | clivejo: I'm back in .cat | 20:43 |
| clivejo | Spain? | 20:44 |
| Riddell | until september yes, then we'll be independent and free! (although I've yet to work out why) | 20:44 |
| clivejo | you're not free now? | 20:45 |
| Riddell | no we're restricted by the pesky spanish, who mostly take our money and live on it as benefits for 9 months of the year </deliberately provative and biased and not necessarily my view> | 20:46 |
| clivejo | at least you have the sun | 20:48 |
| clivejo | wow, its finished, Im going for a reboot | 20:49 |
| clivejo | Riddell: how to I make the text in Konsole stay bigger? | 20:52 |
| Riddell | clivejo: settings -> edit current profile | 20:53 |
| Riddell | appearance -> select font | 20:53 |
| Riddell | surprisingly faffy that | 20:53 |
| Riddell | maybe there's a shortcut | 20:53 |
| Riddell | yes, control + | 20:53 |
| clivejo | oh, I thought it should just remember your previous settings | 20:53 |
| clivejo | I was using control + | 20:54 |
| clivejo | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily main restricted universe multiverse | 20:56 |
| clivejo | already there | 20:56 |
| Riddell | lovely | 20:56 |
| ahoneybun | anyone have the old volume animation from oxygen? | 20:57 |
| ahoneybun | when I change my volume I see the old Oxygen icon set and theme | 20:57 |
| clivejo | Riddell: regarding kamoso-3.0-alpha.tar.xz what should my version be? | 21:18 |
| Riddell | kamoso_3.0~alpha.orig.tar.xz | 21:18 |
| clivejo | grrr stupid ~ | 21:19 |
| clivejo | lets try that again | 21:19 |
| clivejo | and in the version file | 21:22 |
| clivejo | dch -i | 21:22 |
| clivejo | so many packages! | 21:51 |
| clivejo | Riddell: pbuilder is not finding the deps I need, I guess I need to add the next stage ppa into the sources too? | 22:16 |
| Riddell | clivejo: yes, and your ppa too | 22:17 |
| clivejo | oh yeah, it will need purpose | 22:17 |
| clivejo | Riddell: do I need to run a full apt upgrade or will apt update be ok? | 22:23 |
| Riddell | apt update is fine | 22:23 |
| Riddell | there's mostly nothing to upgrade as the chroot only has the base system installed | 22:23 |
| clivejo | got signature errors | 22:24 |
| clivejo | can I use add-apt-repository in the build environment? | 22:25 |
| Riddell | if you install whatever package it's in yes | 22:25 |
| clivejo | thats better | 22:29 |
| clivejo | pulling in kf5 stuff now | 22:30 |
| Riddell | yay | 22:31 |
| clivejo | so LP does all this every time we upload to it? | 22:34 |
| clivejo | *beep beep beeping beep* | 22:34 |
| Riddell | yep | 22:35 |
| clivejo | still failing on Qt5OpenGLConfig.cmake in the environment, yet compiles fine under my local | 22:35 |
| Riddell | else who knows what it would build against, the linker would get very confused | 22:35 |
| Riddell | it's separate from the rest of qt | 22:35 |
| Riddell | packages.ubuntu.com can probably track it down | 22:35 |
| clivejo | problem is I have tracked it down before and installed on my local machine, just cant remember what I installed to fix it! | 22:36 |
| clivejo | is it libqt5opengl5-dev ? | 22:40 |
| clivejo | or just libqt5opengl5 I need? | 22:40 |
| clivejo | Ill try the dev one | 22:41 |
| clivejo | Riddell: have you this already packaged and installed? | 22:45 |
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