[00:05] \o/ [00:42] anyone have the oxygen theme when they are changing their sound volume? [03:27] Riddell_: can I get access to the docs.k.org server? === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [08:21] Good morning. [08:35] Good morning to you sir :-) === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [11:09] Hey all [11:17] hi again [12:13] hiho BluesKaj [12:15] Hey soee_ [12:48] ahoneybun: you already do, username is ahoneybun === Riddell_ is now known as Riddell [14:46] Riddell: how do you login though? [15:19] hummmm my kdeconnect has stopped working totally now [16:18] ahoneybun: ssh? [16:18] clivejo: mine stops working randomly for no good reason :( [16:18] I have no idea the IP and pass [16:18] clivejo: when are we going to finish this packaging stuff? [16:19] did you get anywhere with kamoso? [16:19] I'm back in EU timezone now [16:19] and feeling jetlagged [16:19] Riddell: did you see the current Manual? [16:20] ahoneybun: maybe, I was even more jetlagged yesterday so I didn't take it in, what's new? [16:20] I have some awesome things up [16:20] on a server I have access to [16:20] Riddell: http://192.254.78.155/ [16:21] looking funky ahoneybun, how did you generate that? [16:21] Sphinx [16:21] and did you consider the idea of just dropping the generated version and pointing the site towards the wiki? [16:22] I just got that up for the moment [16:22] the idea is to move from wiki [16:22] for the Manual anyway [16:23] that everyone Project not just Kubuntu to be written in reST [16:25] Riddell: I got it working on my own machine [16:25] clivejo: ooh exiting [16:25] clivejo: did you upload to a PPA? [16:26] but cant get it to build on LP [16:26] ahoneybun: why? what's wrong with the wiki? [16:26] I want all the projects to use a similar language (reST) and have the Manuals all on LP [16:26] Kubuntu has a philosophy! [16:27] we do? I hope it's friendly [16:27] ahoneybun: in bzr? that'll increase the barrier to entry again no? [16:27] packaging is NOT friendly [16:28] Riddell: the idea is having a core location will make it easier to find [16:28] they can branch the Manual and fix typos and such [16:29] Riddell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSxGaSy-8s [16:30] clivejo: no it's not, that's why we do it so our users don't have to [16:32] Riddell: its the package dependancies that is annoying me [16:33] so its compiling fine on my box, but not on LP [16:33] clivejo: needs Qt5OpenGLConfig.cmake [16:33] clivejo: I'm afraid there's no quick way to do that [16:33] and the only way I know of fixing it is trail and error [16:33] pretty much yes [16:34] you can use pbuilder-dist to compile it fresh each time same as launchpad does so you don't need to upload it to launchpad [16:34] but it still takes an age [16:34] you can read the CMakeLists.txt to look for what qt a kf5 dependencies it wants and add those as build deps [16:34] Riddell: so this does not look good? http://192.254.78.155/ [16:34] but that's not usually complete [16:34] ahoneybun: looks lovely [16:34] I was thinking of making a VM image of a basic install [16:34] clivejo: nah pbuilder is where it's at [16:34] or just a local chroot [16:35] using debootstrap [16:35] pbuilder-dist create wily [16:35] Riddell: sphinx provides epub converting as well [16:35] any resources on that [16:35] pbuilder-dist build foo.dsc [16:35] need to do some reading [16:35] so the Manual now has a epub [16:35] ahoneybun: you need more pretty pictures [16:35] I like pictures [16:36] clivejo: pbuilder is a tool for making a chroot, compiling the package in the chroot and sputting out the result and pbuilder-dist adds some improvements like managing multiple distro releases and keeping logs around [16:36] clivejo: agreed [16:36] clivejo: pbuilder-dist create wily to start [16:36] still a WIP [16:36] actually maybe the other way around: pbuilder-dist wily create [16:36] then add universe by logging int pbuilder-dist wily login --save-after-login [16:36] just at a terminal [16:37] apt install nano and edit sources.list [16:37] Riddell: I moved all the Wiki text to reST so far and made a project on LP: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-manual [16:37] ahoneybun: can I ask what are the main issues with media wiki? [16:37] Hey ahoneybun Good job on the Wiki [16:39] clivejo: that every Ubuntu based project uses MoinMoin for some reason and Sphinx/reST provide awesome features [16:39] and it is easy to learn over LaTeX [16:39] sick_rimmit: thanks [16:40] is today's meeting still happening? [16:40] Riddell: is there any way to cache package files? [16:41] ovidiu-florin: there is talk in #ubuntu-meeting but seems a lot of people are unavaiable [16:41] seems to be downloading an entire system :/ === sebas_ is now known as sebas [16:42] ovidiu-florin: sladen is organising a meeting in 20 mins, but he seems to have missed out the important part of oranising a meeting which is to schedule people to be there [16:43] clivejo: yes that's the point, apt will cache packages as much as it can [16:44] surely I should ahve all these packages in the cache as they are installed on my system? [16:44] Riddell: I've tried to help the meeting that was suggested by another happen [16:44] Riddell: it may or may not, .... anything that gets a ball rolling is good [16:45] Riddell: even if it's simply working out whom might setup a doodle for a meeting of their own organisation [16:45] oh kdeconnect is back again [16:45] weird [16:47] hmm, soon windows will boot faster than k/ubutnu [16:47] since we switched to systemd, win7 and kubuntu boot about equally fast [16:47] win might actually be a bit faster [16:48] mountall in systemd takes considerably longer than in upstart [16:48] upgrade to Wins 8, that will soon slow it down [16:48] yesterday i jumped to Wily rom Vivid and booting time is a bit longer i thn [16:48] I just bought a new laptop, was amuzing to see it came with windows 8 but you could pay extra for an upgrade to windows 7 [16:49] Riddell: format it [16:49] w7 ? :) [16:49] win8 is rubbish [16:49] I never bothered upgrading to 8, I'll get 10 next month [16:49] clivejo: oh I did :) [16:49] hmm ksysguard does not liek kuuntu-desktop [16:49] it goes against my grain [16:50] bit like unity [16:51] a computer is a tool to help you be more productive, not fight you at every task [16:52] anyhow, Im hungry and ordering a chinese takeaway! [16:52] Ill leave dbuilder to do whatever its doing! [16:53] well i don't know W8, its like 3-4 years now since im on kubuntu and only ocassionaly run w7 to do some image proessing stuff :) [16:55] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11741153/ === alvesadrian is now known as adrian [18:09] Riddell: you have a Kubuntu table cloth? [18:09] no, paul made that up [18:20] ok [18:31] clivejo: I'll shut down this ec2 as we're not using it [19:36] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [19:37] <_Groo_> stupid question but is dolphin working with baloo from kubuntu-ci? [19:37] <_Groo_> the plasma search and krunner work with baloo, but dolphin cant find it [19:52] Riddell: ping [20:04] anyone know how to get pbuilder to install build tools automatically? [20:11] the--variant=buildd option? [20:26] well that didnt work [20:27] clivejo: it'll install build-essential along with the build of the package [20:27] clivejo: what command are you running and what's not working? [20:28] dget isnt working [20:28] surely thats an essential build tool [20:28] the whole point of pbiulder is it is a minimal chroot just as launchpad build daemons use [20:28] but why are you using dget? [20:29] the whole point is to use pbuilder-dist build *dsc to build a package [20:29] to grab my package from ppa [20:29] do that on your system [20:29] its on my system? [20:29] then run pbuilder-dist wily build *dsc [20:29] where *dsc is the .dsc file for the package you want to build [20:29] oh [20:30] I was trying to do it from inside [20:30] pbuilder-dist wily login --save-after-login [20:30] use that to edit sources.list to add universe and apt update [20:30] then leave with control-d [20:30] ah [20:30] then use it to build your package [20:30] got ya now [20:31] so you wanted me to install nano within the environment [20:31] let me try it again [20:32] I need to reboot, seems to be another kernel update in wily [20:36] I sometimes use nano, sometimes I work out the sed command [20:36] which is faffy mainly because I switch between UK, US and spanish keyboards and the quote key moves around [20:37] Im rebuilding the environment [20:37] was trying to fix it myself [20:41] Riddell: stop switching? :P [20:41] Riddell: what time is it there >.> [20:42] ah 11 [20:42] is he not back in the UK? [20:43] clivejo: I'm back in .cat [20:44] Spain? [20:44] until september yes, then we'll be independent and free! (although I've yet to work out why) [20:45] you're not free now? [20:46] no we're restricted by the pesky spanish, who mostly take our money and live on it as benefits for 9 months of the year [20:48] at least you have the sun [20:49] wow, its finished, Im going for a reboot [20:52] Riddell: how to I make the text in Konsole stay bigger? [20:53] clivejo: settings -> edit current profile [20:53] appearance -> select font [20:53] surprisingly faffy that [20:53] maybe there's a shortcut [20:53] yes, control + [20:53] oh, I thought it should just remember your previous settings [20:54] I was using control + [20:56] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily main restricted universe multiverse [20:56] already there [20:56] lovely [20:57] anyone have the old volume animation from oxygen? [20:57] when I change my volume I see the old Oxygen icon set and theme [21:18] Riddell: regarding kamoso-3.0-alpha.tar.xz what should my version be? [21:18] kamoso_3.0~alpha.orig.tar.xz [21:19] grrr stupid ~ [21:19] lets try that again [21:22] and in the version file [21:22] dch -i [21:51] so many packages! [22:16] Riddell: pbuilder is not finding the deps I need, I guess I need to add the next stage ppa into the sources too? [22:17] clivejo: yes, and your ppa too [22:17] oh yeah, it will need purpose [22:23] Riddell: do I need to run a full apt upgrade or will apt update be ok? [22:23] apt update is fine [22:23] there's mostly nothing to upgrade as the chroot only has the base system installed [22:24] got signature errors [22:25] can I use add-apt-repository in the build environment? [22:25] if you install whatever package it's in yes [22:29] thats better [22:30] pulling in kf5 stuff now [22:31] yay [22:34] so LP does all this every time we upload to it? [22:34] *beep beep beeping beep* [22:35] yep [22:35] still failing on Qt5OpenGLConfig.cmake in the environment, yet compiles fine under my local [22:35] else who knows what it would build against, the linker would get very confused [22:35] it's separate from the rest of qt [22:35] packages.ubuntu.com can probably track it down [22:36] problem is I have tracked it down before and installed on my local machine, just cant remember what I installed to fix it! [22:40] is it libqt5opengl5-dev ? [22:40] or just libqt5opengl5 I need? [22:41] Ill try the dev one [22:45] Riddell: have you this already packaged and installed?