[01:29] <MacCheese> does kubuntu spy on what you do on your computer?
[01:29] <austin6598> would this work on kde 5? https://github.com/dpanda/pushbullet-kde-servicemenu
[03:00] <wolferz> Question, the sys mon widget in the tray shows major memory usage. When I load sys monitor from the application menu and click on system load it shows a significantly less amount of memory being used. Plasmashell is using the most memory in the process table, and shows private total as: 408016 KB	(= 39056 KB clean + 368960 KB dirty). nvidia 346.59 is showing a significant amount in shared, but only 18280 KB. I've purged kubuntu-
[03:00] <wolferz> notification-helper and reinstalled newest with the memory leak patch. Any idea what gives? Anyone else with similar problems? And if the systray shows 4000mb and the system load shows 1.6, is the load monitor not including dirty mem usage but the widget in the tray is? Any insight or theory would be appreciated. Thanks
[03:01] <wolferz> Forgot, upgraded 14.10 to 15.04, and after the upgrade is when the issue formed.
[04:42] <TaZeR> wow guys i just installed Kubuntu, and I am simply blown away
[04:43] <TaZeR> since the last time I tried it its so different in a an unspeakably great way
[04:43] <TaZeR> KDE 5 is blowing my mind
[04:43] <TaZeR> is this a normal first timer reaction? cause i almost cant handle the awesomenes
[04:44] <TaZeR> i have a question though regarding a customization i've been trying to do
[04:44] <TaZeR> the taskbar windows titles get greyed out and only the active one is highlighted making it hard to read what applications are open in the taskbar
[04:44] <TaZeR> is there a way to make all the text stay the same shade and not fade out in the taskbar?
[04:50] <TaZeR> can anyone assist with this slight issue?
[04:50] <TaZeR> or need clarification on what exactly i mean?
[05:14] <valorie> TaZeR: you might ask in #plasma
[05:14] <valorie> I don't know
[05:14] <valorie> nice to hear that you love it though!
[05:15] <TaZeR> alright thanks ill try there
[05:15] <valorie> for me, none of the taskbar tabs get grayed out, so I'm not sure how you are experiencing this
[05:16] <TaZeR> not sure maybe i have different settings i installed the meta package onto a different ubuntu flavor
[05:17] <valorie> that's possible
[05:17] <valorie> but they'll know the right questions to ask in #plasma if there is anyone around
[05:17] <valorie> it's rather early in europe where most of the devels live
[06:29] <deng> f
[08:05] <s_20> what's the recommended way to access s3 using kde?
[08:05] <s_20> is there a kioslave for that?
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:35]  * sick_rimmit waves
[08:35] <sick_rimmit> Hello, and good morning
[08:38] <lordievader> Hey sick_rimmit
[08:39] <sick_rimmit> lordievader: Hello, how are you today ?
[08:39] <lordievader> Doing good here :) How are you?
[08:40] <sick_rimmit> It's Friday, I like Friday's. I always try to make Friday a happy day at work..
[08:40] <lordievader> Shouldn't you make everyday a happy day?
[08:41] <sick_rimmit> NO.. give hell monday to thursday
[08:41] <sick_rimmit> Then make it nice on Friday, so they want to come back Monday
[08:41] <lordievader> :P Okay, if you say so :P
[08:41] <sick_rimmit> lol
[08:41] <sick_rimmit> only kidding of course
[09:05] <snafuuu> hello
[09:06] <snafuuu> can anybody tell me how i start memtest out of kubuntu boot cd?
[09:06] <snafuuu> kubuntu doesnt start properloy and i get no output why :(
[09:06] <snafuuu> so im stuck at kubuntu logo and than blackscreen maybe ram?
[09:11] <snafuuu> mh somethings running lol strg+alt +f1 turns cdrom on lol
[09:12] <snafuuu> wow maybe the machine is just to old took like 30 mins to boot lol
[09:20] <snafuuu> ok i see massidle :D hf i progress on my own again
[09:51] <svizzero81> Hi all, I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 - kernel 3.19.0.21 and I have problems with juniper vpn. Is there a workaround?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:17] <BluesKaj> hi again
[12:49] <Delicates> Is there a way to run memtest86 off the LiveDVD?
[12:51] <Delicates> I see no bootloader menu or anything when I boot from LiveCD, it boots straight into Linux
[12:51] <Delicates> 15.04
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Delicates, there's no boot loader on live media, it boots from your UEFI/BIOS if that's set to boot cdrom or usb first
[13:12] <BluesKaj> what's the reason for a memtest anyway ?
[13:27] <regedit> hello peoples
[13:29] <regedit> so last time i was logged into my kubuntu, system settings, kwin (or was it kwininit or kinit or some such?) and finally even Plasma all died on me one by one
[13:30] <regedit> now when i try booting to ubuntu, no graphical interface even comes up. It remains at "starting version 219" and all i can do is switch to shell sessions (Alt+F1 etc)
[13:31] <regedit> what went permanently wrong in my startup sequence, and how can i restore it?
[13:36] <regedit> trying this http://askubuntu.com/a/464834 , will report back...
[13:47] <regedit> no luck :( i dont seem to have the same install / setup as that guy ^
[13:48] <regedit> i realized that there IS in fact a KDE (or X?) session running, it's just showing black screen. i realized this because a few popup windows successfully rendered, saying plasmashell and krunner crashed
[13:48] <BuddyButterfly> hi
[13:49] <BuddyButterfly> kubuntu 15.04 does not run in virtualbox with 3d accel enabled
[13:49] <BuddyButterfly> issue known?
[13:49] <regedit> are there any startup / init logs I can consult about plasmashell and krunner crashing?
[13:50] <regedit> #kubuntu often seems like a very populated idling channel...
[13:55] <BuddyButterfly> regedit: true
[13:55] <BuddyButterfly> just tested 15.04 in virtualbox.
[13:55] <BuddyButterfly> I am not sure if I do like this new icons. have m ore difficulties to separate this wire frame icons.
[13:56] <BuddyButterfly> and then, 3d just does not work in virtualbox.
[14:26] <regedit> please halp! plasmashell, krunner, and some others are crashing, i dont have a functioning graphical desktop :(
[14:27] <bshah> regedit: do you have backtrace for crash?
[14:27] <TJ-> regedit: Does a Guest login also crash?
[14:28] <regedit> TJ-: how do i try that?
[14:28] <TJ-> At the login propmt choose the Guest user
[14:28] <regedit> bshah: where can i find that, and/or any other intereting logs about this?
[14:28] <regedit> TJ-: i should enter "Guest" at the shell prompt?
[14:29] <bshah> regedit: from the "Developer Information" tab of DrKonqi window that appears
[14:29] <TJ-> regedit: When the greeter login shows instead of choosing your usuall user account there is usually an alternate 'guest' user login
[14:30] <TJ-> regedit: Hmmm, maybe not, maybe that's just on Gnome/Unity
[14:30] <regedit> TJ-: that doesnt show up anymore
[14:30] <TJ-> regedit: for logs look at /home/$USER/.xsession-errors
[14:30] <regedit> upon startup, the kubuntu splash screen shows for a few sec, then all i see is "starting verion 219" top left corner
[14:31] <regedit> i am only able to switch to shell sessions via Alt+F1
[14:31] <regedit> TJ-: ok will check, thanks
[14:31] <TJ-> regedit: also, look at the system logs in /var/log/lightdm/
[14:31] <bshah> regedit: just wondering; did you start any applications with sudo before?
[14:31] <bshah> for example sudo dolphin
[14:32] <regedit> bshah: actually i may have, yes. This all started when plasmashell or something crashed, so i tried starting it up again, possibly with sudo...
[14:32] <bshah> bang
[14:32] <bshah> never do that..
[14:32] <bshah> okay now to fix that..
[14:32] <regedit> ohhhh..... writes a bunch of root configs?...
[14:32] <bshah> login to full shell session
[14:33] <regedit> ok
[14:33] <bshah> and tell permissions of ~/.cache/ksycoca5
[14:34] <bshah> regedit: and if owner is root change it to your user
[14:36] <regedit> bshah: should i just `chown -R me:me .cache/ksycoca5 ?
[14:36] <bshah> yes
[14:50] <onebitxajax> hi all,  i have a laptop with 2 graphioc card. Nvidia and intl. How can i force of use of nvidia card?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> onebitxajax, try installing nvidia-prime
[15:02] <onebitxajax> BluesKaj: already installed
[15:10] <onebitX> sorry DC
[15:10] <onebitX> any solution for me?
[15:18] <onebitX> how can i disable intel graphc card?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> onebitX, scroll down to "how to use prime" , http://askubuntu.com/questions/412452/getting-hybrid-graphics-to-work-nvidia-prime-gt650m
[15:21] <onebitX> BluesKaj: i reach that point.. i try ebnale nvidia.. it give me error
[15:26] <BluesKaj> onebitX, pastebin the error
[16:30] <regedit> hello
[16:30] <regedit> bshah: still there?
[16:30] <bshah> regedit: yes
[16:30] <regedit> bshah: good news is - desktop seems to be working again!
[16:31] <bshah> yay
[16:31] <BuddyButterfly> any idea why kubuntu 15.04 does not work with virtualbox 3d accel?
[16:31] <regedit> bshah: bad news is, some components seem still not running, i dont have the taskbar & kmenu for example
[16:32] <BuddyButterfly> on your laptop?
[16:32] <regedit> BuddyButterfly: talking to me?
[16:32] <BuddyButterfly> yes
[16:33] <bshah> perhaps remove ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc and restart plasmashell
[16:33] <regedit> bshah: trying now..
[16:33] <regedit> BuddyButterfly: thanks, i'm recovering after desktop not working at all due to ~/.cache/ksycoca5 being owned by root
[16:34] <regedit> bshah made a brilliant guess on that one
[16:34] <BuddyButterfly> nice that you could solve it.
[16:35] <regedit> side question (egenral linux) how come when i run something like dolphin or koonversation from command line with &, it still produces output to the shell?
[16:35] <regedit> i think i even tried > /dev/null
[16:36] <regedit> and 2>&1
[16:37] <regedit> anyway - how do i restart plasmashell? is that a service?
[16:38] <bshah> kquitapp5 plasmashell && plasmashell
[16:39] <regedit> just plain plasmashell? no &, or service restart or wtvr?
[16:39] <bshah> well yes you can do plasmashell &
[16:39] <regedit> how does the system startup plasmashell?
[16:40] <regedit> plasmashell > /dev/null ? nohup or something?
[16:40] <bshah> that is done by startkde and kded
[16:40] <regedit> like - i'd like plasmashell to run just as if it were started by system startup, without needing to keep a shell open or wtvr
[16:41] <regedit> maybe i'll just reboot
[17:20] <regedit> where are the configs for lanuchers in the taskbar? whec selecting "show launcher when not runnung"
[17:20] <regedit> *when
[17:27] <rdieter_work> regedit: it's stored in plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletrc
[17:28] <rdieter_work> regedit: look for some launchers=.... key
[17:32] <regedit> rdieter_work: thanks, found it
[17:32] <regedit> rdieter_work: i have a launcher in there that's not working
[17:33] <regedit> the first difference i see between it and other applications that do work ok, is that it does not have a .desktop file in /home/regedit/.local/share/applications/
[17:33] <regedit> the prblematic application in question is MySQL Workbench
[17:34] <regedit> the launcher reads: file:///usr/bin/mysql-workbench-bin?wmClass=Mysql-workbench-bin&name=mysql-workbench-bin&iconData= <long string of base64 data>
[17:34] <rdieter_work> regedit: yeah, I think that feature assumes the app has a .desktop file
[17:35] <TJ-> regedit: is there a system-installed desktop file in "/usr/share/applications/" ?
[17:35] <regedit> rdieter_work: well when i right click > Add to favorites on this application, it does show up in favourites but doesnt make the .desktop files..
[17:35] <rdieter_work> regedit: the .desktop has to already exist, it won't make one for you
[17:35] <regedit> TJ-: checking..
[17:35] <rdieter_work> per what TJ- said
[17:36] <regedit> yup it's there mysql-workbench.desktop
[17:37] <regedit> did i install it as root instead of as specific user - can that be the issue?
[17:38] <regedit> i think i just downloaded the package from the website and installed it with QApt or wtvr it's called
[17:39] <ash_> hi
[17:40] <ash_> i am trying to install kubuntu 15.04, and after it loads and starts updating, it locks up on "configuring systemd" every time. can anyone help?
[17:45] <regedit> TJ-: so, what now, if i found it in /usr/share/applications/mysql-workbench.desktop ?
[17:49] <regedit> rdieter_work: ^ ?
[17:50] <TJ-> regedit: I dunno... I was just telling you where the file is
[17:51] <regedit> how come it's there, what's the difference between apps installing .desktop to there or to my home dir? what can i do about the launcher not launching?
[17:52] <TJ-> regedit: surely the launcher fails to start the executable due to something on the command-line it is trying... what happens if you manually issue the command in a terminal. does it fail or start?
[17:53] <TJ-> regedit: system packages (installed by apt-get) install to system locations (/usr/share/) ... user-built or custom entries are put in the user's "$HOME/.local/share/"
[17:54] <regedit> i downloaded the (debian?)/ubuntu package from the workbench website, and installed it with QApt
[17:54] <regedit> same process i did with Google Chrome
[17:54] <regedit> Google Chrome has an entry in my home folder though, workbench does not..
[17:56] <regedit> "Ubuntu Linux" option http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/ mysql-workbench-community-6.3.4-1ubu1504-amd64.deb
[19:05] <Wissam> Hi guys ,i made a bootable usb stick with kubuntu 15.04 but ifconfig shows lo interface onlyt and i can't connect to internet via ethernet nor wireless
[19:07] <Wissam> i added iface inet eth0 dhcp to /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking and network manager services
[19:08] <Wissam> then ifconfig shows eth0 but networkmanager widget doesn't show eth0
[19:22] <Wissam> hello
[19:22] <Wissam> i will reboot my laptop and try again
[19:25] <arved> hi my wlan sends a permanent plasmashell that a "Connection deactivated", how can i disable this?
[19:26] <arved>                                             ^notification
[19:41] <arved> 345973
[19:42] <arved> any ppa, i can use to update to kf 5.10?
[19:57] <danrik> does kde have alt+left click window dragging?
[19:59] <danrik> or Ctrl+right click window resizing?
[21:11] <eXistenZe> hi
[21:12] <lordievader> o/
[21:13] <gianni> ciao
[21:13] <gianni> !list
[21:16] <eXistenZe> still no jokes?
[21:29] <skomorokh> How do I find out what DNS is being used? I'm not sure I follow all this network-manager / resolvconf / dnsmasq / avahi stuff that's going on by default
[21:30] <skomorokh> Especially weird is that "host" and "dig" get the correct IP for a domain and "telnet" and "ssh" get a different one that I struggle to understand the origin of
[21:31] <skomorokh> Not the hosts file. Checked that. Also blew away the configs for network-manager, dnsmasq and resolvconf then reinstalled the defaults. And rebooted.
[21:31] <lordievader> skomorokh: What is in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:32] <skomorokh> lordievader: what i expect to be there, my local dns.
[21:32] <lordievader> Ok, are hosts defined in /etc/hosts?
[21:32] <skomorokh> nothing with the domain i'm looking up.
[21:33] <lordievader> Then your local dns should be queried for the name resolution.
[21:34] <skomorokh> lordievader: It is when I use host. But not when I use telnet.
[21:34] <skomorokh> root@quite:~# host should-be.local
[21:34] <skomorokh> should-be.local has address 127.0.0.1
[21:34] <skomorokh> root@quite:~# telnet should-be.local
[21:34] <skomorokh> telnet: could not resolve should-be.local/telnet: Name or service not known
[21:34] <skomorokh> (telnet localhost gives the expected "Connection refused" message)
[21:35] <skomorokh> Web browsers, ssh, basically everything except for host, dig and nslookup fails.
[21:35] <lordievader> So everything that actually queries the dns server fails? That is understandable.
[21:35] <skomorokh> No.
[21:36] <skomorokh> Er, wait, what?
[21:36] <skomorokh> host, dig and nslookup don't query it?
[21:36] <lordievader> For as far as I know they ask the os to resolve it.
[21:37] <lordievader> Dig does actually ask the dns server though.
[21:38] <skomorokh> dig @192.168.2.1 should-be.local     <--- this works
[21:39] <skomorokh> Also, my laptop is able to successfully use the same DNS on the same network.
[21:40] <skomorokh> (This is an instance of dnsmasq running on 192.168.2.1 with *.local pointing at 127.0.0.1)
[21:40] <skomorokh> But my desktop is somehow ignoring resolv.conf and using some mysteryass dns. Except for host, nslookup and dig.
[21:41] <skomorokh> One other clue: the desktop's hostname is "quite" and rather than not finding it as it does for *.local, the mystery resolver maps quite.local to the IP that eth0 gets.
[21:42] <skomorokh> root@quite:~# host quite.local
[21:42] <skomorokh> quite.local has address 127.0.0.1
[21:42] <skomorokh> root@quite:~# telnet quite.local
[21:42] <skomorokh> Trying 192.168.2.2...
[21:43] <lordievader> Hmm... so your desktop is the one with troubles?
[21:44] <skomorokh> Ya, it's the one with the mystery dns.
[21:44] <lordievader> Who is advertising the .local domain?
[21:44] <skomorokh> dnsmasq on the DNS is configured to answer for it.
[21:44] <lordievader> The dns is another box?
[21:45] <skomorokh> Yup. 192.168.2.1
[21:45] <skomorokh> Which is also being used (correctly) by the laptop.
[21:45] <lordievader> Ok, your desktop has no knowledge of a .local domain other than querying the dns?
[21:45] <skomorokh> Well, there is no .local  in /etc/hosts
[21:46] <skomorokh> Where else would a domain be defined?
[21:46] <lordievader> Running a local dnsmasq could resolve it.
[21:46] <skomorokh> Well, the network-manager etc. shenanigans already is running one :)
[21:47] <skomorokh> Or, at least it depends on dnsmasq-base
[21:47] <lordievader> With what config?
[21:48] <lordievader> The dnsmasq not the NetworkManager ;)
[21:48] <skomorokh> I had some config before but since rm -rf'd it along with the network-manager configs to ease the process of elimination.
[21:48] <lordievader> NM creates its own dnsmasq config.
[21:48] <skomorokh> Yup.
[21:48] <lordievader> So what is in it?
[21:48] <lordievader> !paste
[21:48] <skomorokh> Default stuff :)
[21:48] <lordievader> skomorokh: Please pastebin it.
[21:48] <skomorokh> /etc/dnsmasq.d/network-manager?
[21:49] <skomorokh> lordievader: thanks much for this!
[21:49] <lordievader> skomorokh: If that is what it uses... here (on Gentoo) it uses /var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf
[21:49] <skomorokh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11742493/
[21:50] <skomorokh> There is no such file in /var/run/NetworkManager, just private and private-dhcp
[21:50] <skomorokh> There is an empty /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d/
[21:51] <lordievader> Hmm, does 'dig @127.0.0.1 should-be.local' resolve anything?
[21:52] <skomorokh> Nope.
[21:52] <skomorokh> But it also can't resolve quite.local or yahoo.com
[21:53] <lordievader> Hmm, what is the output of 'ps aux|grep "NetworkManager\|dnsmasq"'
[21:54] <skomorokh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11742506/
[21:54] <lordievader> Ah, no dnsmasq ;)
[21:54] <skomorokh> /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-eth0.conf  ...interesting!
[21:55] <lordievader> resolv.conf pointed toward your dns right?
[21:55] <skomorokh> Yup.
[21:55] <skomorokh> And only that.
[21:55] <lordievader> Then I guess it is time to pull out tcpdump ;)
[21:55] <skomorokh> bwahaha I was looking at strace
[21:55] <skomorokh> But ya that might be better.
[21:56] <lordievader> See when and what it does on port 53.
[21:56] <skomorokh> How can I dump the traffic for a single process?
[21:56] <skomorokh> Last time I tried to figure that out I gave up after quite some googling.
[21:56] <skomorokh> It'd be a neat trick to have tho so I could just go tcpdumpproc telnet quite.local and see what's what
[21:58] <lordievader> skomorokh: Yes, make a packet dump of both approaches and see if there is a difference.
[21:58] <skomorokh> lordievader: Bunch of other stuff is going on though.
[21:58] <skomorokh> lordievader: Do you know how to isolate tcpdump (or equivalent) to a single process?
[21:58] <lordievader> Yeah, with dns that is the difficult part...
[21:59] <skomorokh> Should be totally doable with cgroups and suchlike.
[21:59] <lordievader> Err perhaps the internet knows?
[21:59] <skomorokh> Like said, last time I looked it up it was bizarrely hard to find. I guess it's time to try again :)
[22:00] <lordievader> Try to limit activity which resolves stuff.
[22:02] <skomorokh> Running tcpdump | grep \.53 to trim the output somewhat I'm actually not seeing anything resolving.
[22:02] <skomorokh> I think it's doing that on UDP :)
[22:03] <lordievader> skomorokh: Let tcpdump do the filtering: tcpdump 'udp && port 53' ;)
[22:04] <lordievader> Also it is a good idea to save it with the -o flag and then analyze them side by side with wireshark.
[22:06] <skomorokh> Seems like host is sending it and telnet isn't sending anything.
[22:06] <skomorokh> AAAND telnet sends it when I use .localo instead of .local
[22:06] <skomorokh> So something thinks .local is, well, local.
[22:06] <skomorokh> I'm sure I told it that somehow, somewhen.
[22:07] <skomorokh> How would I have done that aside from /etc/hosts I wonder?
[22:14] <skomorokh> I'm not even sure what the concept of a local domain would be beyond domain foo in resolv.conf
[22:18] <skomorokh> Avahi. It's avahi.
[22:19] <skomorokh> Thank you "grep -r \\.local /etc"
[22:19] <bjrohan> after updrading to 15.04 from 14.04 my wireless connection has been horrible. Are they any drivers I should install?
[22:19] <skomorokh> And thanks a lot lordievader for helping with that.
[22:20] <bjrohan> If I hardwire to my router, all is as expected as far as speed and connectivity goes, but connecting via wifi my service is sporadic in terms of speed and even remaining connected. My laptop is in the same area as it was where I got great service with 14.04
[22:20] <lordievader> skomorokh: Good question, perhaps it is something in telnet itself?
[22:21]  * lordievader time for bed \o
[22:25] <skomorokh> bjrohan: hm, well, nic drivers are in the kernel. You could try using an old kernel and see if that works. Might not be a good solution but you'll at least narrow the issue down to the kernel module. If I recall 15.04 would at least boot with the last 14.10 kernel, haven't tried with a 14.04 one.
[22:30] <bjrohan_> Is there an updated driver for the Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 (rev c4)?