[05:51] <avi_s> hi. my app depend on lib that look for his mo files in /usr/share/locale how can i put the mo file in their place with click package?
[06:42] <dholbach> good morning
[07:00] <dropp> Good morning!
[07:01] <dropp> type=1400 audit(1434697034.532:184): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="myap.bb_MyApp_0.1" name="/home/phablet/.local/share/" pid=9611 comm="qtc_device_debu" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=32011
[07:01] <dropp> Anyone has an idea how to either remove this requirement from my app or to get permission to use it (i.e., which policy do I have to include)?
[07:02] <dholbach> zbenjamin, ^ is this something to do with debugging?
[07:04] <zbenjamin> dropp: thats probably not the real problem, do you have the full output?
[07:04] <zbenjamin> dropp: that error message comes from the debug helper script, it is testing wether it is running confined or not
[07:05] <zbenjamin> dropp: normally it should not be visible
[07:08] <zbenjamin> dropp: did you get that from QtC output or directly from syslog?
[07:14] <dropp> zbenjamin: directly from syslog, the debug output says something else, one sec
[07:14] <dropp> zbenjamin: hm, ok, no. i saw this message sometimes: shm_open() failed: Permission denied
[07:15] <dropp> but that doesn't have anything to do with it
[07:16] <zbenjamin> dropp: as i said the apparmor message you posted is a result of running from QtC. Our helper scripts need to know if they run confined or not. If you sue the Publish page to install your app on the device that error should be gone
[07:16] <zbenjamin> s/sue/use
[07:16] <dropp> okay thanks! I have another issue and I'm kind of desperate since I can't solve it...
[07:16] <dropp> So sorry... :)
[07:20] <seb128> hum
[07:21] <seb128> after updating my bq/rc-proposed the clock application vanished from the dash
[07:21] <seb128> popey, is that expected?
[07:22] <popey> seb128: uh. lemme try too
[07:22] <seb128> I got r41
[07:22] <seb128> as an update
[07:22] <seb128> not that I also had the clock app in the updates list but I didn't install that one
[07:23] <seb128> decided to go for the image update first
[07:23] <popey> there is a problem with the clock click, which I emailed the landing guys about last night, i have a new one to upload
[07:23] <popey> → #ubuntu-ci-eng
[07:23] <seb128> right, sorry for the wrong channel
[07:23] <popey> no, its fine :)
[07:26] <dropp> Is there any known problem when using QAudioRecorder? It's so weird since when starting to .record() the internal status does not change from StartingStatus(4) to RecordingStatus(5) and therefore freezes the app. On the desktop it freezes 1 out of 10 times, on the devices it's now more like 9 out of 10 times.
[07:27] <dropp> I'm sorry, I asked this question a couple of times already. I don't know when is the best time (of day) to ask here...
[07:32] <didrocks> zsombi: hey! I was wondering if you had any sample for the new style system for simple case (like I just want to edit one component and not the whole app theme as in your blog post)? I see a lot of applications are using TextFieldStyle {}, a sample would be nice I guess
[07:56] <zbenjamin> didrocks: zsombi is on vacation
[07:56] <zbenjamin> didrocks: maybe t1mp or kalikiana can help
[07:58] <didrocks> zbenjamin: oh, thanks for the info!
[07:58] <didrocks> t1mp, kalikiana : any idea on my theming question sample? ^
[08:00] <didrocks> t1mp: kalikiana: for instance, I see that http://paste.ubuntu.com/11739136/ is used quite often in core apps, what would be the 1.2 styling equalivent?
[08:01] <didrocks> equivalent*
[09:52] <nik90> meles: hey, your clock app patch has been released :)
[10:05] <t1mp> didrocks: the new theming is well-documented, but I don't see the new docs in the packages or on the website :s
[10:05] <t1mp> didrocks: if you branch lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging and qmake && make docs,  there is for example ubuntu-theming-subtheming.html
[10:06] <t1mp> didrocks: or from overview-ubuntu-sdk.html, click the "Styling" link under General Topics at the top
[10:06] <t1mp> that would be the 1.3 styling equivalent
[10:07] <didrocks> t1mp: ah, it's only in 1.3, wasn't that in 1.2 as well?
[10:08] <t1mp> let me double-check that in the MRs
[10:08] <nik90> didrocks, t1mp: the 1.2 docs are also missing the Palette values btw..they were there in 1.1 docs.
[10:09] <didrocks> t1mp: I only see in overview-ubuntu-sdk.html styling of apps theme, not just one component
[10:09] <didrocks> nik90: indeed
[10:09] <nik90> didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1433121
[10:09] <nik90> didrocks: turns out it is a sdk documentation bug
[10:10] <t1mp> didrocks: if you click on Styling, you get a table of contents at the top with "Introduction,  Styles, Themes,  Sub-theming"
[10:10] <t1mp> at least I get that in the docs created from staging
[10:11] <meles> nik90: great! But since I use the new version of the app, my alarms just show up but they don't ring or vibrate
[10:11] <nik90> meles: I cannot reproduce it here..have you tried deleting and recreating the alarms?
[10:11] <nik90> meles: it seems alarms created before OTA-4 stop working after the upgrade.
[10:11] <didrocks> t1mp: ah right, that leads to documentation/offline/ubuntu-theming-styles.html
[10:11] <didrocks> t1mp: which seems exactly what I needed, thanks!
[10:12] <meles> nik90: yes i did. I also reinstalled the app from the Software Center
[10:12] <nik90> meles: then no idea..which device and channel are you using?
[10:13] <t1mp> didrocks: the page with the subtheming is ubuntu-theming-subtheming.html, but it is best to read the other theming pages as well
[10:13] <t1mp> didrocks: the new theming API is only exposed in 1.3, not in 1.2
[10:15] <meles> nik90: BQ Aquarius E4.5 stable. So no other reports about this problem yet?
[10:17] <didrocks> t1mp: ah ok, bad memory, I'm blaming the wine of course! :)
[10:17] <nik90> meles: doesn't seem to be..will you be online in about 5-6 hours? We will have another developer from indicator-datetime to help us debug then.
[10:17] <didrocks> t1mp: thanks for the reference!
[10:18] <nik90> DanChapman: oh man v0.5.4 flies..loving the performance tweaks!
[10:18] <meles> nik90: no i can't make it.
[10:19] <nik90> meles: in that case can you create a bug report pls.and upload the following files?
[10:20] <DanChapman> nik90: :-) yeah it's alot better now. Still some more tweaks to do before i'll be completely happy with it
[10:20] <nik90> meles: upload the files found in .local/share/evolution/tasks folder pls. That will help us debug
[10:21] <nik90> DanChapman: the new theme and icon also looks cool.
[10:21] <meles> nik90: alright. I will make the bugreport in about 1 h
[10:21] <nik90> meles: cool
[10:49] <DanChapman> nik90: thanks for the bug :-) out of curiosity have you disabled the body previews because you prefer it without or was it for performance improvements in previous version
[10:50] <nik90> DanChapman: for performance improvements in previous version..I'll re-enable and check it again now
[10:50] <nik90> DanChapman: also it keeps the UI clean and simple imo.
[10:53] <DanChapman> nik90: ah ok well that shouldn't really be an issue now. It's the first screenshot i've seen with it disabled so I had to ask :-) thanks
[11:42] <popey> balloons: do you know how to re-trigger https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/ReadOnlyCal/+merge/261075 ?
[11:42] <popey> the links 404
[11:45] <balloons> popey, yea
[11:45] <balloons> crazy it fell off the build already
[11:47] <balloons> popey, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-calendar-app-ci/1198/
[11:47] <popey> thanks
[11:50] <mihir> popey: if you get time small MP  https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-1464556/+merge/262248
[11:50] <mihir> to review
[11:50] <popey> hah, i literally _just_ did it :)
[11:50] <popey> "Approved by:Alan Pope  a moment ago"
[11:51] <mihir> wow that was fast :D
[11:51] <popey> :)
[12:44] <popey> balloons: https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/ReadOnlyCal/+merge/261075 this looks horribly broken
[12:44] <popey> http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic/2960/?
[12:44] <popey> http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic/2960/consoleFull
[12:45] <popey> wonder if it's the merge that broke it, hiding calendars...
[12:50] <balloons> horribly broken eh?
[12:53] <popey> well, lots of tests failing
[12:53] <popey> as opposed to just one going a but funny :)
[13:13] <kalikiana> my kingdom for javascript typechecking...
[13:13] <kalikiana> just wasted a whole half hour because I didn't realize the keyboard constants are spelt differently
[13:29] <kalikiana> t1mp: review https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/shortcuts/+merge/262413 should be mainly straightforward. the new property is what's specified in the menu doc, and I kept UCAction rather than using QAction as the latter isn't C++-friendly and I ran into compatibility issues
[13:38] <t1mp> kalikiana: ok, added to my list ;)
[13:57] <ogra_> kalikiana, mount -o remount,rw / doesnt know (or need to know) anything about the partitioning ;)
[13:58] <kalikiana> ogra_: no. but *I* need to :-D
[13:58] <ogra_> why ?
[13:58] <ogra_> you want to install a deb for testing ... the above anbles you to ... and you can remount it ro right after installing the deb
[13:58] <kalikiana> well, knowing that I need to make / writable as opposed to say /usr
[13:58] <ogra_> *enables
[14:00] <ogra_> while touching writable_image is a) a permanent thing b) does a reboot after which your system is already tainted by files written to places that nromally would never be written to c) if additiojnally you used apt it is messed up already anyway and totally not comparable to the enduser system anymore
[14:00] <ogra_> and d) my typing sucks massively :P
[14:00] <popey> brobostigon: lots of places, depends which bit - most are linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers
[14:01] <popey> brendand: ask if you need help identifying which component to file a bug in
[14:01] <kalikiana> ogra_: so that answers my question: it's a stupid historic mistake that this was ever even added and spread as the standard way of doing things
[14:01] <kalikiana> given that it IS begin used for silo testing
[14:01] <popey> oops, wrong channel
[14:01] <ogra_> kalikiana, it is helpful for working on the plumbing ... but thats about it
[14:02] <ogra_> and yeah, its a historical thing
[14:02] <kalikiana> so... who do I talk to to get rid of it? your wording makes me think it's irresponsible to even have it
[14:02] <ogra_> kalikiana, but being used for silo testing on freshly flashed devices is ok
[14:03] <kalikiana> why is that okay?
[14:03] <ogra_> the risk here is that you just keep it that way ... or even worse ... apply an OTA on top of it somehow
[14:04] <kalikiana> right. which almost definitely will happen if you get development updates
[14:04] <ogra_> the citrain tool will only pull and install the changed packages and make sure the system level changes are as small as possible ... as lon as you do it on a freshly flashed device this is fine
[14:04] <ogra_> as soon as writable changes accumulated it isnnt anymore
[14:05] <ogra_> well, "fine" for some value of fine ...
[14:05] <ogra_> the only really clean way to test silos would be to have one image build per silo and actually flash a readonly image with the change
[14:06] <ogra_> (which is what i'm proposing since we started with the phones ... prob is that this needs enormous amounts of resources)
[14:06] <ogra_> (and time indeed)
[14:07] <kalikiana> ogra_: and you still need autopilot packages on there
[14:07] <kalikiana> as long as that can't be solved with a snap/click
[14:07] <ogra_> yeah, thats on the TODO to be fixed since 2 years :P
[14:07] <ogra_> (dropping autopilot into home without making the image writable and some such)
[14:08] <ogra_> snapy can solve parts of that
[14:08] <ogra_> and luckily snappy doesnt hhave dpkg or apt at all ... so the reason for making an image writable is gone :)
[14:09] <popey> s/the/one/
[14:09] <ogra_> popey, what are the others ?
[14:09] <ogra_> specifically on snappy
[14:09] <popey> I don't know yet, but I think it's misleading to assume people only go rw for apt
[14:09] <ogra_> (where you would anyway install a snap instead of making anything writable)
[14:09] <popey> that assumes the snap exists
[14:10] <ogra_> if it doesnt you can use snapcraft to create it with a few commands
[14:10] <ogra_> surely easier than having to re-flash after you made your system writagble and cant boot anymore :)
[14:11] <popey> again, assumption
[14:11] <popey> I don't think this constant "everthing that isn't snappy is crappy" attitude is healthy
[14:12] <ogra_> i dont say that
[14:13] <popey> it's inferred
[14:13] <ogra_> hacking your device and asking for support or blaming us for the breakage is crappy though ... has nothing to do with snappy
[14:14] <ogra_> snpppy is simply a solution to many of these issues ... i'm not saying our current setup is crappy ... as long as you use it the right way
[14:14] <popey> That's not how it comes over to me.
[14:14] <ogra_> sorry then, i'll try to work on my wording
[14:14] <popey> We have thousands of devices running pre-snappy software out there. They need support.
[14:14] <popey> Paying customers even.
[14:15] <popey> The "snappy fixes that" answer doesn't help them at all.
[14:15] <ogra_> well, they will get snappy installs at some point ...
[14:16] <renatu> charles, hi I just noticed that after I change the device timezone the indicator does not get updated
[14:18] <charles> renatu, in meeting, will pong in a bit
[14:30] <charles> renatu, what device/image are you using?
[14:30] <renatu> charles, mako Ubuntu 15.10 :D
[14:31] <renatu> r225
[14:31] <charles> renatu, k. will test here
[14:34] <t1mp> renatu: hello
[14:35] <t1mp> renatu: I'm trying to build and run messaging-app on my laptop, but I get this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11740498/ any ideas?
[14:35] <renatu> t1mp, hi
[14:35] <renatu> t1mp, you need address-book-service running
[14:35] <t1mp> renatu: how do I get that?
[14:36] <renatu> t1mp, and you need "qtdeclarative5-qtcontacts-plugin' installed
[14:36] <renatu> t1mp, install 'address-book-service' package
[14:37] <t1mp> I have both
[14:44] <renatu> t1mp, looks like you have a old version of qtdeclarative5-qtcontacts-plugin
[14:45] <t1mp> I have   Installed: 5.0~git20140515~29475884-0ubuntu9
[14:45] <t1mp> renatu: ok, thanks. I'll try to get a newer version later.
[14:46] <balloons> popey, re: calendar tests, I ran trunk and had 9 failures. The failures in the MP are interesting; the first fails because the new event page is missing the calendar selector.. A real issue :-)
[14:47] <t1mp> renatu: is the latest version in vivid?
[14:48] <popey> heh
[14:49] <t1mp> renatu: I realized I'm on utopic. That may be the problem. Upgrading now.
[14:49] <t1mp> renatu: or do I need wiley?
[14:49] <renatu> t1mp, should works with vivid
[14:53] <balloons> nik90, I too get some failures for https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/migrate-to-15.04-framework/+merge/260336 on my desktop
[14:54] <nik90> balloons: AP or QML ones?
[14:56] <nik90> balloons: I need to quickly run out to do some grocery shopping..when I get back I will take a closer look at it. Meanwhile can you attach your failure logs that I can use to debug further.
[14:56]  * nik90 brb in 45 mins
[15:00] <balloons> nik90, qml ones, as you wanted me to have a look
[15:03] <balloons> nik90, just confirming that my results seem to match jenkinsis all
[16:41] <mzanetti> rpadovani, http://notyetthere.org/data/video20150619_113725894.mp4
[16:44] <rpadovani> mzanetti, /o\ wow dude, that's awesome!
[16:44] <rpadovani> popey, ^^
[16:44] <popey> Ya!
[16:50] <dpm> nice one mzanetti!
[16:52] <ogra_> geez 6AM ?!?
[16:55] <dpm> mzanetti, something else: on your e-mail to the user who was trying to run Notes on a Unity 7 desktop: "and then you can set up the account in the normal unity7 system settings" <- does that work? Last time I tried it (on utopic, though) I had to install the phone's system-settings app for the account to be configured, as unity7's system settings wouldn't add it
[16:59] <mihir> popey: ping
[17:01] <mzanetti> dpm, for me the phone one doesn't work, only unity7s settings thing
[17:01] <mzanetti> ogra_, not sure... maybe there's UTC issue still
[17:01] <dpm> ok, probably things have changed in vivid
[17:02] <mzanetti> dpm, no, for me it was always like that
[17:02] <mzanetti> dpm, it fails to show the username, but still works
[17:03] <ogra_> mzanetti, yeah, just dont forget tomorrow is saturday, you may sleep in :)
[17:03] <dpm> mzanetti, weird. At some point I had to install system-settings and a bunch of other deps to make it work. Good to know it works seamlessly on a desktop (even without username)
[17:04] <mzanetti> :)
[18:12] <nik90> Does anyone know more about OAuth2? I am trying to register my app to Trakt, and they are requesting for a redirect_url. I am sure what to enter there.
[18:12] <ogra_> nik90, i bet dobey
[18:12] <dobey> huh?
[18:13] <ogra_> you dont ?
[18:13] <dobey> oh
[18:13] <nik90> dobey: I have some basic questions about OAuth2.
[18:13] <dobey> nik90: https://www.ubuntu.com/, if you're asking in reference to redirect_url to use with an online-accounts plug-in
[18:14] <dobey> nik90: basically, see what the google/twitter/etc plug-ins are doing and roughly copy it, adjusting for whatever service you're using needs
[18:14] <nik90> dobey: No this is for a 3rd party service called Trakt (trakt.tv). Their API v2 dictates users login using OAuth2. So while trying to register my app with them, I am asking to enter a redirect_url.
[18:15] <nik90> dobey: Do I need to use a online-accounts plug-in?
[18:16] <dobey> nik90: you're writing an ubuntu app no? i think you should probably be providing a plug-in for online-accounts for the login to the service, yes
[18:16] <dobey> like untappd, meetup, fitbit, etc scopes do
[18:17] <nik90> ok
[19:24] <mhall119> balloons: that autopilot plugin for the SDK is fantastic
[19:39] <balloons> mhall119, isn't it just? :-)
[19:39] <balloons> it just needs to land!
[22:44] <davidcalle> alex-abreu, I want to buy you and marcus a TON of beer. That is all.