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mazalMorning everyone05:49
Kilosmorningmazand others06:00
Kilosai!06:00
Kilosmazal  inetpro  and others06:00
ThatGraemeGuymorning peeps06:34
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  06:34
inetprogood mornings06:43
Kiloskoud ne06:44
mazalMore Kilos , inetpro06:52
mazaland ThatGraemeGuy06:52
mazaland who did I miss ?06:53
Kilosothers till shivering06:53
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Padronihellooooooooo07:38
Padronihow are you guys07:38
Kiloshi Padroni  ok ty and you?07:38
PadroniI"m good07:38
Kiloscold07:38
Padroniyeah, isn't it?07:38
Kiloswassup you?07:39
Padronihi barrydk07:39
Kiloshi barrydk  07:39
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superflysup Padroni, Kilos, barrydk, MaNI07:44
MaNImorning07:44
Kiloshello superfly  hows the family in this cold07:44
Kiloshi MaNI  07:44
PadroniI'm on a Game of Thrones marathon07:45
Padronijust about done with season 207:45
Kilosi enjoyed that program07:46
PadroniI haven't seen season 5 yet07:52
Padroniso rushing through it from the start to get to S0507:52
Kiloswhew dfont you work?07:54
Kilosdont either07:54
Padroniyes07:54
Padronibut I multi=task07:54
Padronii have 4 monitors on my desk07:54
Kiloshaha07:54
Padronialso07:55
Padroniit's friday07:55
Kiloslol07:55
PadroniI reach counterproductive 'o clock at 9:20-ish07:55
MaNII need to get the last episode07:55
MaNIbefore someone ruins it for me :P07:55
Kiloslol07:55
Padronimy FB peeps know07:56
Padroniany spoilers, and I unfriend you07:57
Padroniso far I lost 3 people07:57
MaNIheh07:57
Padronibut it's their own doing07:57
MaNIcan't decide whether to buy expensive local charge controller or import cheap chinese one07:58
Kiloschinese products have improved lots07:58
Kiloswhat is a charge controller anyway07:59
MaNIyeah - which makes the decision tougher07:59
MaNIsolar panels -> charge controller -> batteries07:59
Kilosimport means the customs peeps again07:59
PadroniI want cheap solar panels 07:59
Padronican't believe it is still so expensive07:59
MaNIit scales the voltage from the panels to the optimum level to charge batteries without destroying them07:59
MaNIPadroni, what would you consider cheap and which province you in?08:00
Padronibasically a step-down / step-up transformer?08:00
Kilosyou can make that MaNI  08:00
Padroniwas thinking the same thing08:00
MaNIprobably but they are apparently quite fancy, not sure :P08:00
MaNIalso they generally take up to 150 in and output between 12-4808:01
Kilosyou can buy chips that do all that for you08:01
Kilosused to need zener diodes and things before08:02
Kilosyou were looking for a reason to use the weller08:02
MaNIthe panels I got work out to R8.10/w inclusive if you are in durban (no minimum order size), a bit more if you need to ship them :(08:03
MaNIstill a bit more than I'd like them to be but heading in the right direction08:03
MaNIR6/w would be magic08:03
Kiloslol08:04
MaNIthe ~R12/w that most places seem to try sell for is daylight robbery08:06
MaNIcharge controller - I'd love to design my own but it seems maybe a bit ambitious for a starter project don't want to burn my house down :p Playing with 150v 50a makes me nervous 08:08
MaNIhttp://www.instructables.com/id/ARDUINO-SOLAR-CHARGE-CONTROLLER-Version-20/ <- theres an arduino one but its only 10a08:08
Padroniyeah 50A will burn your fingers right off if you get it wrong08:09
superflyI'm really keen to reduce my dependence on the grid08:10
superflybut it's so expensive -_-08:10
MaNIthe grid is also expensive :p08:11
MaNII'm estimating 3-4 year payback on my small system, depending on how much I splurge on the charge controller now (and ignoring that the panels remain an asset that could be sold - so just on power savings) 08:12
MaNIthats not bad08:12
MaNIand its 'only' a ~R20k investment instead of a large one like most people are doing08:12
Kilosonly08:14
MaNIwell if you consider what the average south african seems to spend on a tv or a fancy car they don't need its not a completely out of reach sum08:14
Kilosnope not for them kinda peeps08:15
MaNIwhat I mean is it isn't >150k like most the articles seem to mention, which quite rightly scares people away :p08:15
MaNI20k is still a big investment for me, but the payoff is relatively sage and not super long term, plus I get to play with geek stuff and laugh at load shedding once its up :p08:16
MaNI*safe08:16
Kiloshahaha08:17
Kilosjust that part makes it worth it08:17
MaNIcould probably get something okay up for like 8k even at a stretch, and then just add a panel a year to improve it08:18
MaNIKilos, customs not so bad if it comes through EPS, only normal post that it sucks 08:27
MaNIalso the chinese stuff seems to be more 'open' in terms of controlling it via external software etc. so thats another thing that makes the chinese stuff tempting08:27
superflyMaNI: I don't have ~20k. in fact, I don't have ~2k08:31
MaNIyeah then you are screwed :(08:32
superflyfood for kids >>> anything else08:32
MaNIthis is why I didn't have kids :)08:32
superflyMaNI: that's a lame excuse08:41
superflyMaNI: and an insult08:41
MaNII'm sorry if you feel that way, it was not intended as an insult, just a fact kids are really expensive08:42
superflywow, the "sound like I'm apologising but I'm not really" trick08:42
superflyIt wasn't an insult to me, more to kids08:43
superflyJust think, if your parents thought that kids were too expensive, you've never have been born.08:44
superfly*you'd08:44
MaNIeveryones situation is unique08:44
MaNIbesides, I was an accident *shrug*08:44
magespawngood morning08:44
superflyMaNI: the best kind of "accident" -- I don't believe in accidents08:45
Kiloshi magespawn  08:45
superflyMaNI: if you ever do get to that point, your perspective is going to change a lot08:45
MaNIThat seems rather forcing of your world view, you don't know enough about me to say that. Anyway I'm not really looking to argue about children right now, it was just a light hearted comment and I'm sorry if you feel strongly about it08:48
mazalSjoe , if I didn't know better I would thought it's Monday08:51
superflyMaNI: I'm not forcing my view, I'm just telling it like it is.08:59
mazalHey superfly08:59
superflyhi mazal08:59
mazalHow goes ?08:59
superflynot too bad, just a little cold09:00
mazalWhere be you and Zak these days , that uncapped are not being utilized lol :)09:01
superflymazal: probably just because there is not limit, there's no need to max it out :-)09:02
mazalhehehehe09:02
superflyZak and Josiah LOVE watching stuff on YouTube09:02
superflymazal: in terms of minetest, just too busy09:03
superflythis past weekend we attended a wedding09:04
mazalDoes they minecraft also or just minetest ?09:04
superflyand on Tuesday we were out with my parents09:04
superflyonly Minetest09:04
superflyI raise them on open source ;-)09:04
mazalThere are tons of build videos for mc on youtube that they should enjoy. Basics apply for minetest also09:05
mazalI watched a few and it;s crazy what complex buildings people can come up with09:05
mazalThey are raised well then :) I miss my M$ free days at home :(09:06
PadroniI also didn't like kids until I had my own09:09
Padroniit changes you09:09
magespawnchange is a good thing most of the time, and kids are pretty amazing09:11
MaNIhttp://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Jobless-man-builds-helicopter-with-recycled-material-20150619 <- win 09:24
PadroniRight 09:43
PadroniI am off09:43
Padronigotta get some studying done09:43
Padronilaters folks.09:43
Kilosok 09:43
Kiloslearn hard09:44
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magespawnokay then, i think that helicopter might need more than a safety inspection before it can fly10:10
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* mazal fiddles10:45
mazalmaaz what's for lunch today10:48
Maazmazal: How about some sushi?10:48
mazaluhm........NO10:48
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magespawnlater all13:08
inetprogood evening13:10
inetprooops... not quite, I guess13:10
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Kiloslol14:05
inetproeish!14:05
inetproKilos: loadshedding is on again from 17:0014:05
Kiloseish!14:06
Kilosty14:06
inetprobut maybe you be lucky again like me14:06
* inetpro not affected 14:06
Kilosoh14:06
Kiloswhat dfid we do to deserve their kind regard14:07
Kilosdid14:07
inetproKilos: the schedule 14:09
Kiloslol14:09
inetprolook in the schedule14:09
Kilosna i dont have that any more14:10
inetproai!14:10
Kilosi trust you14:10
* inetpro can never be trusted14:10
Kilosin his own onpinion ya14:10
Kilosopinion14:11
Kilosjust leave my trust for my goosie alone14:11
Kiloshmm...14:54
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MaNIEMS vs UPS, any opinions?16:12
MaNIor experience? :p16:12
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Kiloswhats ems16:18
KilosMaNI  ?16:19
MaNIcourier/shipping16:19
MaNIjust wondering which is faster, someone who has used them both might have a good idea16:20
Kilostakealot is free delivery this month16:20
MaNItakealot is almost alway free delivery unless you order tiny orders :p16:21
Kilosah16:21
MaNIthey are pretty decent though16:22
MaNImr delivery express (takelot) can never find my house for some reason16:23
Kilosgive them your gps co-ords16:23
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grembleo/17:28
Kiloso/17:31
grembleAnyone doing anything fun?17:34
Kiloslol17:35
Kilosshivering17:36
grembleI'm not sure that is considered fun17:36
gremble:P17:36
grembleI fixed the valve last night 17:36
Kiloseasy hey17:36
grembleIt was an issue with the little button, I gave it a wiggle and it stopped leaking17:37
grembleI told my mother to go get her some valve caps17:37
Kilosyes just gets stuck on one side of the actually sealing ring17:37
Kilosthats why i use spit or water with the pump before changing the valve17:38
Kiloss/just/dust17:46
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Kilosyay no shedding again18:27
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:53
smileHoi :)20:05
grembleAre you very much a night owl, smile?20:05
smilegremble: is jy n native Afrikaans spreker?20:06
inetprogood morning 20:06
smilegremble: because I am so late?20:06
inetprooops, evening as well 20:06
grembleYou're usually online late, yes20:06
grembleI am bilingual, native in both English and Afrikaans20:06
gremble:P20:06
grembleBut I usually prefer english, as I am able to express myself better in it20:07
smileWould you like to help me? :)20:07
* inetpro was watching the sound of music with the kids 20:08
smileI would like to have an Afrikaans translation for vlc lyrics finder 20:08
inetprogremble: that's some fun for you 20:08
grembleI'm willing to help smile20:09
grembleMary Poppins > Sound of music20:09
gremble:P20:09
smilegremble: http://github.com/Smile4ever/VLC-Lyrics-Finder20:09
grembleI used to watch the shit out of Mary Poppins. Only now that I am older I realise that the medicine she gave them was drugs and the kids were stoned out of their minds the entire duration of the movie20:09
inetproai! 20:10
gremblesmile: of the files in the locale folder?20:11
grembleOh, nevermind 20:11
grembleI found the link at the bottom20:12
smileGremble: its easy: scroll down, its on transifex I think20:12
smile:-D20:12
smileI hope I configured Afrikaans already20:12
smileDo you have experience with transifex?20:13
gremblesmile: No experience yet. 20:14
grembleThere doesn't seem to be something for afrikaans on your project listing though20:14
gremble:P20:14
grembleShould I 'request a language'?20:14
smileNo I will add it later. :) can you perhaps take eng.xml from the locale folder and translate that?20:15
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grembleAlright20:16
smileJust afrikaans instead of english inside the xml20:16
smileYou can mail the afrikaans xml to smile4ever@wikipedia.be20:16
grembleAlright. Let me finish up this chapter of work and I'll get right on it :P20:17
inetproI guess tomorrow is another day... Good night 20:17
smileNice! :)20:17
grembleGood night inetpro 20:18
smileGood night20:18
smileIt was stupid of me, not adding afrikaans to the languages :-O20:19
grembleYou even have arabic and chinese..20:21
gremble:P20:21
smileYeah20:21
smile:)20:21
smileIf you click chinese for example, you get translation info for every text20:22
smileAt least I hope20:22
smileThat translation info may help you20:22
grembleYup.20:23
smileYay. If its not clear what you are translating, please ask context :)20:24
grembleUnless I got lost, these are just very short phrases relating to finding lyrics for songs. I don't think it'll be that difficult haha20:25
smileLol :) the "switch" text is probably the hardest20:26
grembleChanges the song?20:27
grembleOmvisselen sounds like it could be like, verander or verwissel. Although I think the former is better than the latter20:28
smileOmvisselen? And not omwisselen?20:29
smileNo20:29
grembleSorry, typo on my end20:29
grembleOmwisselen20:29
gremble:P20:29
smileSwitches the artist text with the title text20:29
smileIf they were typed in the wrong textbox by mistake20:30
grembleAh20:30
gremblethen it is verwissel, but ruil om would be more clear. 20:30
grembleThanks for alerting me to that20:30
smileBut the problem is I cant put a long description there20:31
smileRuil om is good for me, too20:31
smilegremble: will you try lyrics finder? :-D20:36
grembleOfc20:37
smile:-D make sure they have meta data or the correct file name20:38
grembleI can always just do a pull request and send you the xml that way?20:38
smileYeah, you can try it that way :-D you gonna fork me? :-O20:39
smileafr.xml is the required file name I think20:40
grembleThat is usually how it goes. I fork the project on github, do my changes and then commit it back to your project with a pull request. Then you decide you like it, accept and voila20:41
smileI know :-P20:41
smile:-D20:41
smileBut not everyone does20:41
grembleOh20:42
grembleHaha20:42
grembleI don't have a lot of projects on github, but I am familiar with its usage20:43
gremble:P20:43
grembleMost of my stuff I am too self-concious about to push up haha20:43
smileI see. My projects on github are mostly recent20:43
smileBut some software dates back to 5 years earlier20:44
grembleMine is mostly from the past year20:44
smile:-D20:46
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gremblesmile: How good are you with Differential Equations?20:50
smileI am happy using github :-)20:50
smileNot sure what that is?20:50
grembleOh. Nevermind. I got stuck doing the wrong problem20:50
grembleIt is the math used to model change20:50
smileI still dont know the term :) 20:52
gremblehttps://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differentiaalvergelijking 20:53
gremble22:56 < smile> I still dont know the term :) 20:53
grembleBleh20:54
grembleSometimes my terminal bugs out20:54
smileI dont think I can do a good differentiaalvergelijking21:00
grembleHaha oh well21:00
grembleIt was worth asking21:00
smileYeah21:08
smileSlaapwel :)21:37
grembleJy ook21:37
smileDankje21:37
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