| clivejo | must have run this f'ing thing 30-40 times and still getting errors | 00:25 |
|---|---|---|
| clivejo | must be an easier way! | 00:25 |
| clivejo | OMG 52% | 00:29 |
| clivejo | it compiled!! | 00:30 |
| clivejo | Riddell: uploaded Kamoso to my PPA and installs on my local machine. However I needed to install a dependancy to get it to work and I cant remember what it was, gstreamer I think | 01:04 |
| clivejo | had enough for tonight, so going to bed! Night | 01:04 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: what the heck happened to the last half of your youtube? | 02:56 |
| ahoneybun | what? | 02:58 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: ^ | 02:58 |
| valorie | the link you posted earlier | 03:00 |
| valorie | once you stop talking, there is music, then some weird ad | 03:00 |
| valorie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSxGaSy-8s | 03:01 |
| ahoneybun | yea that... | 03:01 |
| valorie | last half should be chopped off | 03:01 |
| ahoneybun | I think the guy managing the computer was was not doing something right | 03:02 |
| ahoneybun | idk tbh | 03:02 |
| valorie | next time you are being taped, please repeat the questions | 03:05 |
| valorie | couldn't hear what was being asked, at all | 03:05 |
| valorie | otherwise, good presentation | 03:05 |
| valorie | I hate to move away from the wiki though | 03:05 |
| valorie | " | 03:05 |
| valorie | Just branch from launchpad" -- not very easy | 03:06 |
| valorie | for a beginner | 03:06 |
| ahoneybun | I now I know about the questions though | 03:08 |
| ahoneybun | you know | 03:08 |
| ahoneybun | we could have users write docs on the wiki, we move them to sphinx | 03:08 |
| ahoneybun | but that is work | 03:08 |
| valorie | everything is work | 03:10 |
| valorie | if you are doing the work, then you should choose what you like best | 03:11 |
| valorie | as i did | 03:11 |
| valorie | I worked with docbook even though I didn't like it | 03:11 |
| valorie | and that was branching from lp | 03:11 |
| valorie | rest is probably just as easy as markdown, which I've been using for the frameworks book | 03:12 |
| ahoneybun | reST is easier then damn docbook | 03:13 |
| ahoneybun | I will never work with that | 03:13 |
| ahoneybun | unless I convert it with pandoc | 03:13 |
| ahoneybun | I do have all this reST work on LP as its own project | 03:15 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-manual | 03:16 |
| valorie | eh, docbook is just xml | 03:16 |
| valorie | I used to use wordstar | 03:16 |
| valorie | very similar, really | 03:17 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: I don't mind maintaining the wiki and sphinx but the problem is pointing new users/contributors to the right place | 03:23 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: did you see the special things I got from SELF? | 03:27 |
| valorie | yes | 03:34 |
| valorie | it's fun to collect swag for awhile | 03:34 |
| valorie | until you get too much | 03:35 |
| valorie | that's the stage I'm at | 03:35 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: http://imgur.com/fkWu0ao | 03:42 |
| valorie | yup, at some confs you can really load up on it | 03:43 |
| ahoneybun | see the 3D printed KDE logo? | 03:43 |
| valorie | yup | 03:43 |
| ahoneybun | super cool | 03:44 |
| valorie | someone was doing that at akademy last year, but I never had time to talk with them/watch 'em | 04:09 |
| lordievader | Hello | 10:09 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:19 |
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| clivejo | Riddell: did you take a look at kamoso on my PPA? | 13:24 |
| === prth_ is now known as prth | ||
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| clivejo | how very descriptive - libkf5newstuff-dev | 14:55 |
| soee_ | woho Kubunt life saviour :) | 14:58 |
| Riddell | clivejo: nope, how did it go? | 15:07 |
| clivejo | soee_: is there a meta package that pulls in all the KF5 files? | 15:07 |
| clivejo | Riddell: its built on LP :) | 15:07 |
| Riddell | ooh it compiled! | 15:07 |
| clivejo | but I know there is a running dep | 15:07 |
| clivejo | but cant remember what it was | 15:07 |
| Riddell | how do you know that? | 15:07 |
| clivejo | runtime | 15:07 |
| soee_ | clivejo: i dont think so, but i might be wrong | 15:08 |
| clivejo | cause when I installed the deb on my system it crashed | 15:08 |
| clivejo | run it from terminal and it was looking for something (cant remember) and when I installed it, program runs | 15:09 |
| clivejo | Im playing with Scrooge now | 15:09 |
| clivejo | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/skrooge?content=92458 | 15:09 |
| soee_ | my mother is a teacher and she has a lot of work now (notes, descriptions etc. etc.) and windows failed for her, so i switched it to Kubuntu and all works flawlessly (not a single coplain so far) :D | 15:10 |
| clivejo | nice one soee_ | 15:10 |
| clivejo | Riddell: I think it was a gstream dep | 15:11 |
| clivejo | Riddell: BTW is there any way to do a pbuild without a debuild first to create the dsc file? | 15:13 |
| clivejo | and what is grantlee5 ?!? | 15:13 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure what you mean, debuild -S makes the source "package" which is the orig.tar, debian.tar and .dsc | 15:16 |
| clivejo | I have to install all the dev files on my system | 15:16 |
| clivejo | which Id rather not do | 15:17 |
| Riddell | I don't understand | 15:19 |
| Riddell | debuild -S won't need you to install much | 15:20 |
| Riddell | just pkg-kde-tools | 15:20 |
| Riddell | and debhelper | 15:20 |
| * Riddell tries kamoso in a debootstrap chroot | 15:21 | |
| clivejo | do kf5 apps go into /usr/share/kde5/apps ? | 15:27 |
| clivejo | which doesnt exist on my system :/ | 15:28 |
| clivejo | anyone? | 15:36 |
| Riddell | nope | 15:39 |
| Riddell | data files goes into /usr/share such as /usr/share/kwin | 15:39 |
| Riddell | clivejo: here's what happens if I run kamoso in a bare chroot https://paste.kde.org/plp7rb09p | 15:40 |
| Riddell | it's looking for qml | 15:40 |
| clivejo | what if the previous version put it in /usr/share/kde4/apps | 15:40 |
| Riddell | kdelibs4 apps used that for data files, the equivalent in kf5 is /usr/share | 15:41 |
| Riddell | so that needs changed if you have those paths listed in .install files | 15:42 |
| Riddell | quite a few paths changed going from kdelibs4 to kf5 | 15:42 |
| clivejo | that makes NO sense to me! | 15:42 |
| Riddell | using /usr/share/kde4/apps makes no sense | 15:43 |
| clivejo | what about /usr/share/kde4/config ? | 15:47 |
| Riddell | moved to /etc/xdg/ | 15:48 |
| Riddell | nice and standard | 15:48 |
| clivejo | LOL | 15:48 |
| clivejo | is there documentation on this? | 15:49 |
| Riddell | some https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Porting_Notes | 15:50 |
| murthy | What will happen if I remove the language pack(not english us) which is currently in use, will kde default to en_us? | 15:52 |
| Riddell | yes should do | 15:53 |
| murthy | ok | 15:53 |
| Riddell | or whatever is second in your preference list | 15:53 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: ping | 15:54 |
| BluesKaj | soee_, pong | 15:58 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: in vivid, can we autoound windows disks in dolphin without entering password (on exta user account) ? | 16:00 |
| soee_ | *automount | 16:01 |
| clivejo | Riddell: so it needs qml-module-qtquick-controls during runtime? | 16:01 |
| BluesKaj | soee_, windows partition should automount afaik it shows my 7 install/partition on my laptop | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | W7 that is | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | in 15.04 | 16:11 |
| Riddell | clivejo: and others, I'm still working it out | 16:11 |
| clivejo | Ive uploaded a new version ppa8 | 16:11 |
| clivejo | that should fix it, I hope | 16:11 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: well the thing is: is see them in Dolphin but when i try to open some, i need to enter admin user password | 16:12 |
| BluesKaj | soee_, in dolphin/devices ? | 16:17 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: yes | 16:17 |
| BluesKaj | on the same HDD ? | 16:18 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: i have created new account on my parents PC, where my mother do all her work, but she needs access to windows partitions where she also have a lot of files | 16:18 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: yes i think it's the same hdd but i have to check, can't remember now | 16:18 |
| soee_ | one sec | 16:18 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: yes the same | 16:19 |
| soee_ | i will configure for her dropbox or owncloud account to have access to those files anywhere | 16:20 |
| soee_ | but i woule like to fix the disk access problem to | 16:20 |
| BluesKaj | soee_, i mean the same HDD as 15.04 | 16:20 |
| soee_ | ? | 16:20 |
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| BluesKaj | soee_, I access other pcs with Windows installs using the the network folder in dolphin | 16:23 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: no no, this is the same PC, Kubuntu is installed on separate partition | 16:25 |
| BluesKaj | soee_, not sure what could be the problem unless you have more than one user on the windows install then asking for admin pwd makes sense | 16:32 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj | 16:32 |
| soee_ | ok but shouldn't Kubuntu just see and access other disks wothout any passwords etc ? | 16:33 |
| BluesKaj | dunno soee, my situation is differnt so I can't speculate why..I'm the only "user" on the laptop wirh kubuntu and windows | 16:35 |
| Riddell | clivejo: do you now what package provides qtquick2videosink ? | 16:41 |
| clivejo | qt5glvideosink ? | 16:45 |
| clivejo | in gt-gstreamer | 16:46 |
| Riddell | qtquick2videosink is a qml module I guess from qt-gstreamer | 16:48 |
| Riddell | qml modules are very hard to track down | 16:48 |
| Riddell | we don't have magic ways to do it like with C/C++ apps and libraries | 16:49 |
| Riddell | I can see we have a qml-module-qtgstreamer package but that's for qt4, I don't see a qt5 equivalent | 16:49 |
| Riddell | qt-gstreamer is one of those overly complex packages which comiles itself twice, one for qt4 and once for qt5 | 16:50 |
| clivejo | does it run for you Riddell? | 16:54 |
| BluesKaj | ok gents, done here for the day...band practice this aft.....later | 16:56 |
| Riddell | clivejo: nope, it's missing qtquick2videosink | 16:57 |
| clivejo | http://s15.postimg.org/59zhb2na3/kamoso.jpg | 17:02 |
| clivejo | thats it running on my machine | 17:02 |
| Riddell | and I've had it on another machine but this is a chroot so no excess packages installed | 17:14 |
| Riddell | https://paste.kde.org/pnxdgxm3j is what it says | 17:14 |
| Riddell | but I think the problem isn't in qtquick2videosink I think it's before that | 17:15 |
| clivejo | ah thats what I was getting | 17:15 |
| clivejo | and I installed something and now it works! | 17:15 |
| Riddell | I don't suppose you remember what? :) | 17:16 |
| Riddell | history may tell you | 17:16 |
| clivejo | nope, my head is fried at the moment | 17:16 |
| clivejo | good idea! | 17:17 |
| clivejo | /var/log/apt/history.log ? | 17:17 |
| clivejo | ah | 17:18 |
| clivejo | apt-get install QtGStreamer* | 17:18 |
| clivejo | Install: qtgstreamer-declarative:amd64 (1.2.0-2), qtgstreamer-dbg:amd64 (1.2.0-2), qtgstreamer-plugins-qt5:amd64 (1.2.0-2), qtgstreamer-doc:amd64 (1.2.0-2), qtgstreamer-plugins:amd64 (1.2.0-2) | 17:18 |
| Riddell | ah hah, qtgstreamer-plugins-qt5 helped | 17:19 |
| clivejo | so if I added that to the deps, it would do the trick? | 17:20 |
| Riddell | hang on I'm making a list | 17:20 |
| Riddell | so far I have qml-module-qtquick-controls, qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons, qml-module-qtmultimedia, qml-module-qtquick-dialogs, qml-modules-org-kde-purpose, qml-module-qtgstreamer,phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer, kio, qtgstreamer-plugins-qt5 | 17:22 |
| Riddell | but it's still crashing when I do anything and not showing icons | 17:23 |
| Riddell | and giving me errors like "qrc:/qml/Config.qml:59: TypeError: Cannot read property 'brightness' of null" | 17:23 |
| clivejo | eak | 17:23 |
| clivejo | havent seen that error | 17:23 |
| clivejo | had you a previous install of Kamoso? | 17:24 |
| Riddell | not in the chroot | 17:24 |
| clivejo | its a strange wee programme | 17:29 |
| clivejo | do you use it? | 17:29 |
| Riddell | it's a programme with lots of qml which there are still not too many of but there will be more and we need to learn how to deal with it | 17:29 |
| Riddell | yeah I've used it occationally, we didn't include it in vivid and I heard a complaint about not having it | 17:30 |
| clivejo | how do you run it in a minial install environment? | 17:31 |
| Riddell | debootstrap wily wily | 17:38 |
| Riddell | will set up a chroot environment same as pbuilder but you can manually work in it | 17:39 |
| Riddell | then sudo mount -t none -o bind /dev wily/dev | 17:39 |
| Riddell | and same for /proc and /tmp | 17:39 |
| Riddell | then sudo chroot wily | 17:39 |
| Riddell | voila | 17:39 |
| colbyf | Folks an ideas how I can resolve having older icons not appearing on plasma systray? | 17:42 |
| Riddell | meh, I give up, apol_ any thoughts on what our kamoso package is missing that gives these errors? https://paste.kde.org/pu2tmhb01 | 17:43 |
| * apol_ looks | 17:43 | |
| Riddell | that QJsonObject issue may be the start of it | 17:44 |
| apol_ | Riddell: Cannot read property 'contrast' of null << this looks like you're missing some parts of QtGstreamer | 17:44 |
| apol_ | Riddell: do you have a acamera? | 17:46 |
| Riddell | apol_: yes, this is running a chroot with /dev mounted so it should have the same access to it | 17:47 |
| * Riddell installs libqt5glib-2.0-0 libqt5gstreamer-1.0-0 libqt5gstreamer-dev libqt5gstreamerquick-1.0-0 libqt5gstreamerui-1.0-0 libqt5gstreamerutils-1.0-0 qt5gstreamer-dbg qtgstreamer-plugins-qt5 | 17:47 | |
| Riddell | nope, same issue https://paste.kde.org/puzlijlt1 | 17:49 |
| apol_ | Riddell: the line 7 is bothering me, where is this coming from? | 17:50 |
| apol_ | also line 5 looks like an indicator of things going bad | 17:50 |
| apol_ | I'm unable to reproduce though | 17:53 |
| apol_ | Riddell: do you have a backtrace? | 17:53 |
| Riddell | apol_: https://paste.kde.org/phqsmsvw0 | 17:54 |
| apol_ | it looks like you don't have a running gstreamer pipeline | 17:56 |
| apol_ | just to be sure, does the camera work at alll? | 17:56 |
| Riddell | maybe it is something to do with the chroot it doesn't like | 17:56 |
| apol_ | Riddell: just pushed a change that should prevent the crash you're getting | 17:57 |
| apol_ | and yes, it might be about the chroot | 18:00 |
| apol_ | OTOH we shouldn't be crashing | 18:00 |
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| Riddell | this magnetic hard disk is amazingly slow! | 18:02 |
| Riddell | apol_: cheese says no device found so I guess the chroot doesn't like the camera | 18:05 |
| apol_ | right | 18:05 |
| Riddell | so clivejo can you add: qml-module-qtquick-controls, qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons, qml-module-qtmultimedia, qml-module-qtquick-dialogs, qml-modules-org-kde-purpose, qml-module-qtgstreamer,phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer, kio, qtgstreamer-plugins-qt5 | 18:06 |
| Riddell | and we'll get some people to test it and see how they do | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: probably because you haven't bind mounted /dev/whatever | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | into the chroot | 18:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I did! | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 18:09 |
| Riddell | oh just /dev | 18:09 |
| Riddell | not /dev/whatever | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | permission issues? | 18:09 |
| shadeslayer | /dev/video0 is the one IIRC | 18:10 |
| Riddell | /dev/video0 is there | 18:10 |
| Riddell | I'm root in the chroot | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | mmm | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | idk then | 18:11 |
| clivejo | Riddell: Now running lintian... | 18:57 |
| clivejo | E: kamoso changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file wily | 18:57 |
| clivejo | is that just a pre-release error? | 18:57 |
| clivejo | ok, pushed to PPA as version 10 | 18:59 |
| Riddell | yeah it's just lintian being old | 18:59 |
| clivejo | LP is building | 19:00 |
| Riddell | clivejo: e-mail kubuntu-devel for testers? | 19:00 |
| clivejo | am I on that mailing list | 19:00 |
| Riddell | yep, so ask it for people running wily to test it | 19:01 |
| clivejo | how do I tell them to go easy! | 19:01 |
| clivejo | Riddell: is there a KF5 meta package for development? | 19:04 |
| Riddell | clivejo: nope, it might be useful to have those, kf5-tier1-dev etc but nobody has made them yet | 19:05 |
| clivejo | who makes those? | 19:07 |
| Riddell | clivejo: volunteers welcome :) | 19:08 |
| Riddell | probably needs some coordination with debian to see where it best to put them | 19:08 |
| clivejo | kamoso was hard enough! | 19:08 |
| clivejo | looking at skrooge at the moment | 19:09 |
| clivejo | but these file paths are casuing me grief | 19:09 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: you need to write some docs on how to package :) | 19:18 |
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