[04:29] <Guest86330> help
[05:06] <wolftune> yo, I'm switching to new SSD but someone suggested I try using Lvm option when I install… how do I get set for having a separate /home within Lvm?
[05:06] <wolftune> Any easy enough options? I'm no system wiz
[05:10] <excalibr> wolftune, I'd recommend against lvm if youre doing normal install. It only add layer of complexity
[05:11] <wolftune> excalibr: thanks for the perspective. I think my concern is that I want a separate /home and would like also a partition for large media files…
[05:11] <wolftune> excalibr: and it was pointed out that I could adjust the size easier and be more flexible with lvm than with guessing about sizes now when installing…
[05:12] <wolftune> but now I'm trying to make sense of all this and not making progress on the install…
[05:16] <excalibr> wolftune, some rough numbers..when I created separated partitions I allocated about 20GB for / and 30GB for /home and leave the rest of space for Storage/media partition
[05:17] <wolftune> excalibr: that sounds reasonable enough. On my current disk I made separate /opt and /tmp even, maybe not bother?
[05:17] <wolftune> what do you call the storage partition? I originally called mine "media" and then realized that's a name collision
[05:18] <excalibr> if you plan to have windows running in virtual machine, it's good idea to have your home partition to be around that size or bigger
[05:19] <wolftune> nobody should have Windows running in anything ;)
[05:22] <excalibr> wolftune, hehe but I occasionally find myself in a need to run some .net apps so vm is the only option. .NET is a b!tch, it rarely plays nice with wine/mono
[05:22] <wolftune> sure
[05:22] <wolftune> I use Wine to run Bounce Metronome
[05:23] <wolftune> I also really hate that I actually am sacrificing all sorts of other potentially useful things that run in Windows (Melodyne being the biggest to me). I wish I could *trust* Microsoft or Apple, but I don't.
[05:25] <wolftune> is this a good approach? http://blog.oaktreepeak.com/2012/03/move_your_linux_installation_t.html
[05:25] <wolftune> vs doing fresh install and working then bring everything back…
[05:51] <newbie|2> hi
[05:52] <newbie|2> i've started kubuntu but my screen was unplugged
[05:53] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!
[05:53] <josePHPagoda> So I'm trying out Kubuntu, and overall I'm liking it.  The latest version is quite an improvement over the older one.  I've got an odd issue though.
[05:54] <josePHPagoda> I've got dual screens, and the login manager is stretched across both in a really odd way, anyone have any ideas on how I can address that?
[05:54] <newbie|2> now on the screen i've a command line interface in tty1 (I can switch to tt2-6 easely) but no graphic interface (kde desktop hasn't start). Do you know how to start it without to reboot my pc?
[05:57] <josePHPagoda> newbie|2: did you start up in any particular way to not have it start the gui?
[05:58] <newbie|2> josePHPagoda: no. I just pushed on the master switch, but the plug of the monitor was out of the socket.
[05:59] <josePHPagoda> hmm
[05:59] <newbie|2> josePHPagoda: i think that the kernel has detected that there were no monitor and choosed to boot without kde.
[05:59] <josePHPagoda> you should still get some sort of graphics
[05:59] <josePHPagoda> even if it doesn't see a monitor attached
[05:59] <josePHPagoda> at least, that's been my experience
[06:00] <newbie|2> i'm in 14.04.2 LTS version.
[06:02] <newbie|2> the boot time was really fast. i tried several times and concluded that if the plug of the electricity power of the screen is detached, the pc starts in command line interface
[06:02] <josePHPagoda> in all honesty, I would recommend restarting, I seriously don't think the issue is that your monitor was unplugged
[06:02] <josePHPagoda> i suspect something else is going
[06:02] <josePHPagoda> hmm
[06:02] <josePHPagoda> interesting
[06:02] <josePHPagoda> in that case, you could try to change runlevels
[06:03] <josePHPagoda> let me see if I can find the command
[06:03] <newbie|2> but when the monitor is connected to the power, then kde starts normally.
[06:03] <josePHPagoda> that's very interesting
[06:04] <josePHPagoda> you could try something like
[06:04] <josePHPagoda> startx
[06:04] <josePHPagoda> but i'm unsure if that will do what you want
[06:05] <newbie|2> josePHPagoda: it doesn't work
[06:05] <newbie|2> fatal server error
[06:05] <newbie|2> no screends found (EE)
[06:05] <josePHPagoda> yeah
[06:05] <josePHPagoda> so when it tried to build it's config it couldn't find it
[06:05] <josePHPagoda> probably due to the missing screens
[06:05] <josePHPagoda> so I dont' know how to properly address the issue you are having, sorry :(
[06:06] <newbie|2> ok.
[06:06] <josePHPagoda> hi arsdragonfly
[06:06] <newbie|2> there always exists the solution to reboot. but i'd like finding some more elegant way ^_^
[06:07] <josePHPagoda> newbie|2: I agree completely :)
[06:07] <newbie|2> thank you anyway
[06:24] <josePHPagoda> ok, so i've got my controllers working now
[06:24] <josePHPagoda> dual screens working after login
[06:24] <josePHPagoda> but before login, the dual screens are really messed up
[06:26] <josePHPagoda> google isn't yielding much either
[09:58] <colbyf> Hey all, I can't seem to make /build wireless drivers in kubuntu. I have headers installed.
[09:58] <colbyf> it says gcc not found but its installed to my knowledge
[09:59] <colbyf> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2b72b19da80537f8dfa8
[10:09] <lordievader> Hello
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:03] <Arran_> Hello
[14:05] <Arran_> I hope, sombody can help. I need a couple of Infos for LO's calc/write. Has anybody an idea where I can find either a German or an English Chat?
[14:26] <Guest67761> Hi
[14:27] <murthy> Guest67761: hi
[14:27] <murthy> !german
[14:27] <murthy> Arran_: ^
[14:36] <Guest67761> after installing nvidia driver in kubuntu 15.04 the boot screen becomes ugly
[14:37] <Guest67761> in previous version this solved that for me :http://askubuntu.com/questions/431564/how-do-i-fix-ugly-boot-screen-when-using-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-13-10
[14:37] <Guest67761> but it didn't work in 15.04
[14:37] <Guest67761> is that related to systemd ?
[14:47] <murthy> Guest67761: did you check if the frambuffer driver is blacklisted?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Guest67761, which nvidia driver ? The recommended one in driver manager ?
[14:50] <Guest67761> murthy: you mean this /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-top/blacklist
[14:51] <Guest67761> ?
[14:51] <murthy> no in /etc/modprobe.d/
[14:54] <Guest67761> thereis a file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf and some framebuffer drivers are blacklisted .should i add something ?
[14:55] <Guest67761> BluesKaj: yes i installed the recommended driver in the driver manager
[14:56] <Guest67761> you know what ,i feel that the startup time and the performance is better with nouveau driver
[14:57] <murthy> Guest67761: do you have multiple linux distros installed?
[14:57] <Guest67761> is there any drawback for using nouveau driver instead of the nvidia one ?
[14:57] <murthy> Guest67761: no good vdpau
[14:58] <murthy> Guest67761: little bit buggy
[14:58] <murthy> Guest67761:  but nouveau works well with kde and  its open source
[15:00] <murthy> Guest67761: Check if you are editing the wrong grub config in case there is more than one grub install. If thats not the issue you could check the xorg log for errors
[15:01] <Guest19702> Hi everyone, just reinstalled the latest Kubuntu (upgrade from 14.10 broke Akonadi) and I have issues with locale
[15:01] <Guest19702> Is here a right place to ask a few questions ?
[15:02] <Guest67761> murthy: no just one grub .thank you anyway for your help .
[15:02] <murthy> ok
[15:02] <Guest67761> i 'll try something else and see if works
[15:03] <Guest67761> plasma 5 seems great i will stuck with it
[15:04] <murthy> There is a grub editor kcm, unfortunately its not yet ported for kde 5
[15:04] <Guest67761> i heard that 5.3 is great i will update from the backports
[15:04] <murthy> ya you should
[15:05] <murthy> Guest19702: yes you can get help here
[15:06] <murthy> Guest67761: http://kde-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre3/137886-3.png
[15:09] <Guest19702> My laptop has a French keyboard, but I want an English (US) interface and I live in Nepal (so I need Nepal time, but using the Western calendar, not the Nepalese one)
[15:09] <Guest19702> During installation I selected English as the default language, French as the keyboard layout and Kathmandu as the time zone
[15:10] <Guest19702> After install, all the number, including the clock, are displayed in Nepalese
[15:11] <Guest19702> Which makes sense as the output of the `locale` command command shows ne_NP LC_NUMERIC
[15:11] <Guest67761> thank you murthy
[15:12] <Guest67761> reboot....
[15:12] <Guest19702> So my first question would be: how can I get rid of the Nepalese localization and get back to en_US as default ?
[15:12] <Guest19702> I'm the only user of this laptop so a global, system wide fix is preferable
[15:13] <murthy> Guest19702: let me check
[15:13] <Guest19702> The output of `locale`: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cf64c34d98d8ac0ad588
[15:14] <Guest19702> Thanks murthy
[15:15] <murthy> Guest19702: What is the time zone specified in System settings-> Regional settings -> Date & time -> Time zone?
[15:17] <Guest19702> Kathmandu
[15:17] <Guest19702> I have the right time
[15:17] <josePHPagoda> So I am new to Kubuntu and have most of my stuff working well, but have a few issues.  Specifically, my greeter (the login screen) when I first boot up my machine is spanned across both displayers so it looks odd.  How do I go about fixing that?
[15:17] <murthy> Guest19702: ok
[15:17] <Guest19702> The `date` command returns the right date
[15:17] <Guest19702> And KDE displays the right time, but with Nepalese characters
[15:19] <murthy> Guest19702: What is the region specified in System settings-> Regional settings -> Formats?
[15:19] <Guest19702> en_US
[15:19] <Guest19702> Detailled settings is unchecked
[15:21] <murthy> Guest19702: There is a know issue with the regional settings in kde 5, this could be it. Can you set the region to United Kingdom?
[15:21] <Guest19702> I'm trying
[15:22] <Guest19702> BTW my /etc/default/locale has LANG="en_US.UTF-8", but every other values like LC_NUMERIC is ne_NP
[15:23] <Guest19702> murthy: I've changed to UK, I'm going to log out / log in again.
[15:23] <murthy> ok
[15:26] <charlesfleche> murthy: I'm the guest in Nepal
[15:27] <murthy> charlesfleche: so you dont live in nepal :) ?
[15:27] <charlesfleche> Didn't change anything: figures are still in Nepalese
[15:27] <charlesfleche> Yes, I live in Nepal
[15:28] <charlesfleche> But unfortunately I don't read the language. Yet
[15:28] <charlesfleche> An alternative solution would be to remove anything Nepalese on the system. What packages should I look to ?
[15:28] <murthy> charlesfleche: wait
[15:28] <murthy> charlesfleche: checking for a solution
[15:29] <charlesfleche> Ah ok, sorry. Thanks !
[15:35] <murthy> charlesfleche: Check the detailed settings in the regional settings and change the Time to United States
[15:35] <murthy> charlesfleche: I mean in regional settings -> formats
[15:37] <charlesfleche> unlog / relog again !
[15:37] <charlesfleche> I'll be back in a sec
[15:47] <charlesfleche> Dude from Nepal is back, murthy !
[15:47] <charlesfleche> But it didn't change anything...
[15:47] <charlesfleche> I'm going to set everything in /etc/default/locale to en_US and see how it goes
[15:48] <murthy> charlesfleche: wait
[15:48] <charlesfleche> OK
[15:48] <charlesfleche> :-)
[15:49] <murthy> charlesfleche: what does the file plasma-localerc   in ~./config have?
[15:50] <charlesfleche> murthy: https://paste.kde.org/pszi9zymw
[15:55] <murthy> charlesfleche: I will give you the name of the package that has the nepal language support, try removing that . Hope you know what to do, if something goes wrong. this is the package name "language-pack-ne"
[15:56] <charlesfleche> murthy: Package 'language-pack-ne' is not installed, so not removed
[15:57] <charlesfleche> I already removed it before connecting to Freenode
[16:01] <krise> Hi , i have some ext. hard drive mountig trouble, can anyone please help me . Error message is here https://paste.kde.org/pj6yvy7bi
[16:01] <charlesfleche> murthy: changed /etc/default/locale to en_US everywhere
[16:01] <josePHPagoda> krise: this drive wasn't part of a raid is that correct?
[16:01] <charlesfleche> Now it works
[16:01] <josePHPagoda> (it's just a standard external drive?)
[16:02] <charlesfleche> calendar / dates are displayed in Western numbers
[16:03] <murthy> charlesfleche: nice. This is a bug in kde, hopefully it will be fixed soon
[16:03] <josePHPagoda> krise? I suspect it wasn't proper unmounted, I would recommend plugging it into a windows machine and having windows run check disk on it, then properly ejecting it
[16:03] <murthy> charlesfleche: Dude I am from India and we all hope you guys a speedy recovery from the earthquake disaster
[16:04] <charlesfleche> murthy: Thanks mate. I'm actually French and I'm here to rebuild stuff after the earthquake.
[16:05] <josePHPagoda> Anyone here using dual screens?  I've got kind of an interesting bug.
[16:05] <charlesfleche> Telecom networks in my case. It's pretty bad here. Not so much in Kathmandu, but some villages have been totally destroyed.
[16:05] <josePHPagoda> want to see if it happens to everyone or just me
[16:05] <murthy> charlesfleche: wow, keep up the good work
[16:05] <charlesfleche> Thanks murthy
[16:05] <murthy> charlesfleche: thank you
[16:05] <charlesfleche> And thanks for the help
[16:06] <murthy> np
[16:07] <krise> josePHPagoda yet it wasn t properly unmounted. in windows computer it works correctly and all data is still there
[16:09] <josePHPagoda> krise: the issue is that linux doesn't want to touch it if it hasn't been properly dismounted
[16:09] <josePHPagoda> since it doesn't want to risk corrupting any data
[16:09] <josePHPagoda> i would recommend running checkdisk and then properly ejecting it
[16:09] <josePHPagoda> the filesystem is certainly acting odd
[16:10] <josePHPagoda> i don't know for sure if it will resolve the issue though
[16:20] <krise> how do i run checkdick
[16:20] <krise> disk :P
[16:22] <josePHPagoda> krise, on the windows machine, right click the drive
[16:22] <josePHPagoda> then go to tools
[16:22] <josePHPagoda> then tell it to check the disk
[16:25] <josePHPagoda> anyone here use two screens?
[16:28] <sattty> hey kubuntuans
[16:31] <murthy> hi
[16:31] <sattty> Hey murthy
[16:31] <sattty> I installed kubuntu 15.04
[16:32] <josePHPagoda> hi sattty
[16:32] <sattty> everything working fine , except some compositin and
[16:32] <sattty> hi josePHPagoda
[16:38] <josePHPagoda> sattty: what's the compositor issue you are having?
[16:38] <josePHPagoda> and what GPU do you use?
[16:38] <sattty> hey guys , how to use opengl in KUBUNTU
[16:38] <josePHPagoda> sattty: it's generally on by default
[16:38] <josePHPagoda> what GPU do you have?
[16:40] <sattty> josePHPagoda: I use intel integrated graphics, when I click K start menu , it leave traces of menu on desktop
[16:40] <sattty> and refresh by 2 to 5 sec later
[16:43] <ShalokShalom> sattty: you can change the openGL version
[16:43] <ShalokShalom> plasma 4 or 5 ?
[16:43] <ShalokShalom> which GPU ?
[16:44] <ShalokShalom> sudo apt-get install inxi && inxi -F
[16:44] <sattty> plasma 5
[16:45] <ShalokShalom> ok, i am out, plasma 5 in Kubuntu is horrible
[16:46] <sattty> ShalokShalom: Plasma 5 is good looking and promising
[16:46] <ShalokShalom> i know
[16:46] <ShalokShalom> i love and use it since Feb in KaOS
[16:47] <ShalokShalom> which GPU ?
[16:47] <ShalokShalom> https://userbase.kde.org/Desktop_Effects_Performance
[16:56] <sattty> you ShalokShalom saying I need to switch to some KaOS
[17:08] <sattty> bbbi
[17:39] <ShalokShalom> sattty: KaOS is for professional users, if you prefer a stable system, i recommened ROSA Enterprise: http://diestelkind.de/matthias/ :)
[17:40] <colbyf> anyone ideas for plasma tray icons???
[17:41] <colbyf> or lack I mean lol the Xembed ones I think#
[18:13] <josePHPagoda> seems like the package search is broken on the KaOS website
[18:21] <Wissam> Hi ,guys
[18:21] <Wissam> After upgrading to plasma 5.3.1 from kubuntu backports i can't log in to desktop
[18:22] <Wissam> after typing the password in sddm thar blue bar reaches the end and i get only a black screen
[18:23] <Wissam> i thout it's related to nvidia driver so i removed the nvidia driver but that doesn't solve the problem
[18:25] <Wissam> i thought*
[18:44] <josePHPagoda> anyone online that uses 2 screens?
[18:44] <josePHPagoda> I think I've found a bug, and I need help resolving another issue
[18:44] <josePHPagoda> both are due to dual screens
[19:01] <mparillo_> josePHPagoda: I was running two screens in a VM.
[19:02] <josePHPagoda> mparillo_: try to drag a widget from one screen to the other
[19:02] <josePHPagoda> it doesn't work as expected
[19:02] <josePHPagoda> that's the bug
[19:05] <josePHPagoda> can you confirm that the behavior is odd?
[19:05] <mparillo_> Hmm, I created an analog clock, and I can drag it across both screens, but maybe that is because it is on a VM.
[19:06] <josePHPagoda> mparillo_: i can drag them, but it changes the size and i have to grab it again
[19:06] <josePHPagoda> once I cross between screens
[19:07] <mparillo_> What is odd for me is that the dragging is a bit choppy, and mouse pointing is inaccurate, but I get little love when I post bugs like that when I say it is in a VM.
[19:08] <josePHPagoda> mparillo_: the other issue I have is that the login screen is messed up
[19:08] <josePHPagoda> and attempts to center across both screens
[19:08] <mparillo_> Which widget are you using.
[19:08] <josePHPagoda> meaning that the left side of my login is on the left screen
[19:08] <josePHPagoda> and the right side of my login is on the right screen
[19:08] <josePHPagoda> any widget
[19:09] <josePHPagoda> if you use skype, I can do a screenshare w/ you
[19:09] <josePHPagoda> and illustrate what is happening
[19:09] <mparillo_> OK, I will look more closely. Alas, I do not.
[19:09] <josePHPagoda> let me see if I can do a capture
[19:10] <josePHPagoda> hmm, unsure how to best screen capture this
[19:14] <josePHPagoda> maybe I should just set up my camera
[19:14] <josePHPagoda> and record it that way
[19:15] <josePHPagoda> so i've got my task manager working happily in my panel
[19:15] <josePHPagoda> and i've been sticking applications on it by launching them
[19:16] <josePHPagoda> then rightclicking on their entry and telling it to keep an entry for them
[19:16] <josePHPagoda> but how can I change the order that they are in?
[19:37] <mparillo> If you right-click, is there a move option?
[19:37] <mparillo> And does it work on the app in the panel, or on your screen?
[19:43] <Guest51998> supergeil
[20:28] <RyanGlScott> I'm having an issue where starting emacs with KRunner makes it unable to locate any executables with M-x.
[20:28] <RyanGlScott> Starting emacs from a terminal works fine.
[21:11] <eXistenZe> hey guys
[21:12] <eXistenZe> command to restart desktop?
[21:13] <eXistenZe> and a way to start a command line without desckot access
[21:25] <eXistenZe> nevermind...
[21:25] <eXistenZe> solved
[22:51] <enfjoao> hey guys
[22:51] <enfjoao> need some help again
[22:52] <eXistenZe> better this way
[22:52] <eXistenZe> something in my .config folder is making plasma boot ot clack screen
[22:53] <eXistenZe> since there are a couple hundred files there, is there any obvious suspect