[13:10] <hjd> Hi, a new version of scala was recently packaged in Debian, along with related new dependencies scala-parser-combinators and scala-xml. Unfortunately these packages have circular dependencies and won't build unless they themselves are available. (search "scala" on http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ for details). Is there some process or approach for boostrapping such packages?
[13:11] <hjd> bug 1126035 might be relevant
[13:32] <infinity> hjd: Is this a one-time thing, or will it be required for every major version bump or something equally awful?
[13:35] <infinity> hjd: If it's a one-time thing, I can bootstrap them sometime this weekend and fix it up.  If it's an ongoing concern, you might want to come up with a clever way to iterate bootstrap uploads in the future, since it's entirely possible that Debian will go source-only soon too.
[13:37] <hjd> infinity: I don't have full overview, but I note that scala version 2.10 and 2.11 both depended on itself.  So maybe the latter...
[13:39] <infinity> Huh.  It really does build-dep on itself.  Cute.
[13:40] <hjd> In the bug report, there's a link to an upstream ticket, so people are talking to upstream and trying to make it better (see for instance https://github.com/scala/scala-lang/issues/295)
[13:51] <infinity> hjd: Commented on the upstream ticket at https://issues.scala-lang.org/browse/SI-9299
[13:52] <infinity> hjd: I might bootstrap this current version as a show of good faith, but it's definitely not a process I want to have to repeat every 6 months.
[14:06] <hjd> infinity: Thank you :) That's perfectly understandable.
[16:53] <ScottK> tumbleweed: It might be kind of interesting to track the total number of uploaders for each release over time in http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-activity/ - I assume that's each to get from the data set you're using.
[16:55] <tumbleweed> ScottK: yeah, probably is quite easy