| lotuspsychje | good morning | 03:15 |
|---|---|---|
| ObrienDave | waves | 03:16 |
| daftykins | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouv1Un1F36A | 03:17 |
| daftykins | this on a high-res laptop = amazing | 03:17 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: nice on 4k | 03:25 |
| daftykins | sure is :) | 03:25 |
| Bashing-om | spectacular even without HD display . | 03:25 |
| daftykins | ruined on my desktop which is 1920x1200 per screen | 03:26 |
| lotuspsychje | interstellar was pretty nice too | 03:27 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe on panoramic cinema 4k would be amazing | 03:27 |
| daftykins | ;] | 03:29 |
| lotuspsychje | what you guys think of greece? will they leave the EU or stay? | 03:30 |
| daftykins | no idea :) | 03:31 |
| daftykins | coming from a small rock with a government independant of England even, you get used to not much news affecting you | 03:31 |
| lotuspsychje | oh, maybe you dont follow this news? | 03:31 |
| daftykins | been a while since i saw any tbh | 03:32 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: morning mate | 07:19 |
| EriC^^ | morning lotuspsychje | 07:19 |
| EriC^^ | how's it going? | 07:20 |
| lotuspsychje | great and you? | 07:20 |
| EriC^^ | great | 07:20 |
| lotuspsychje | lazy staurdays irc :p | 07:20 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 07:20 |
| lotuspsychje | saturday oO | 07:20 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: our engine looks like this: http://en.nissan-club.eu/graphics/owners/full/10851_2023_kif_1344-m.jpg | 07:44 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 07:45 |
| EriC^^ | 16v rev nicely | 07:45 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: where is that part that could be broken? | 07:45 |
| EriC^^ | the alternator? | 07:46 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah? | 07:46 |
| EriC^^ | you see that u-tube to the left? the rubber one? | 07:46 |
| EriC^^ | it's right next to it, between the exhaust manifold | 07:46 |
| lotuspsychje | left under U? | 07:47 |
| EriC^^ | you can see that red connector coming to it | 07:47 |
| lotuspsychje | ah yes | 07:47 |
| EriC^^ | yeah to the left at the bottom of the screen | 07:47 |
| lotuspsychje | so thats the one i cant hit with the hammer right | 07:47 |
| EriC^^ | haha yeah | 07:48 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 07:48 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 07:48 |
| lotuspsychje | no tricks to fix an alternator yourself? | 07:48 |
| EriC^^ | well it depends, if the coils are bad i guess you're screwed | 07:48 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: and the car cant be started with startcables, if the alternator is broken? | 07:49 |
| EriC^^ | it's like a coil and there are brushes and when it spins it makes it charge the battery | 07:49 |
| EriC^^ | but there's also a voltage regulator, and it controls the voltage, that could be bad, and that has like a piece and it could be broke or something | 07:49 |
| lotuspsychje | ah i see | 07:50 |
| EriC^^ | it can be started, but it won't last long cause the car will be running only on the battery | 07:50 |
| EriC^^ | when the alternator is working it charges the battery and the engine runs on it, and it should give around 14.5v | 07:50 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: its the alternator keeping the battery loaded when driving then? | 07:51 |
| EriC^^ | if you turn off the lights and everything it would last longer i guess | 07:51 |
| EriC^^ | like if you charge the battery fully and start the car and leave you could make it home if it's not that far away | 07:51 |
| lotuspsychje | right | 07:51 |
| EriC^^ | but if the battery is dead you could only start it for a little | 07:52 |
| EriC^^ | if you use cables | 07:52 |
| lotuspsychje | the weird thing is we can play radio | 07:52 |
| lotuspsychje | and battery is just new | 07:52 |
| EriC^^ | yeah radio probably works | 07:52 |
| lotuspsychje | and we was able to start it again after few hours car rest | 07:52 |
| EriC^^ | but when you start the car doesn't the radio turn off? | 07:52 |
| lotuspsychje | no | 07:52 |
| EriC^^ | yeah the battery recharges a little bit when you leave it | 07:52 |
| EriC^^ | it could also be the belt of the alternator is broken | 07:53 |
| EriC^^ | did you check that? | 07:53 |
| lotuspsychje | those plastic belts around those wheels? | 07:53 |
| lotuspsychje | are still there | 07:53 |
| EriC^^ | yeah the belts to the left | 07:53 |
| lotuspsychje | with tension on it yes | 07:54 |
| EriC^^ | oh ok | 07:54 |
| lotuspsychje | saw those | 07:54 |
| EriC^^ | btw jump starting isn't recommended | 07:54 |
| lotuspsychje | with start cables you mean? | 07:54 |
| EriC^^ | cause when the car starts there will be a power surge, and new cars with engine management computers will go toast sometimes | 07:54 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 07:55 |
| EriC^^ | so if you wanna cable start it, unplug the battery from the other car first | 07:55 |
| lotuspsychje | that can damage the new car feeding up the cable then? | 07:55 |
| EriC^^ | yeah and also yours if yours has a computer | 07:55 |
| lotuspsychje | its an old almera | 07:55 |
| EriC^^ | still it has fuel injection | 07:56 |
| EriC^^ | and probably an ignition unit | 07:56 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 07:56 |
| EriC^^ | i used to have alternator problems | 07:57 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: did it also make weird sounds when turning the key? | 07:57 |
| EriC^^ | i kept burning them, cause the engine revs a lot ( 8000+rpm ) and the alternator has a air duct for cooling but it's not attached to the front cause it's an engine swap | 07:58 |
| EriC^^ | it's been ok for like 4-5 years though *knock on wood* :P | 07:58 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 07:58 |
| EriC^^ | i think it's cause i got a used alternator, last time i also got one but i guess it was better | 07:59 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 07:59 |
| lotuspsychje | new alternator might last longer? | 07:59 |
| EriC^^ | if it's just the regulator they are cheap and it's easy to swap | 07:59 |
| lotuspsychje | lets hope its that :p | 08:00 |
| lotuspsychje | how cheap is an alternator? :p | 08:00 |
| EriC^^ | if it's the coils, it can be rebuilt, or get a used one i guess | 08:00 |
| EriC^^ | it's too much to pay for new parts you know | 08:00 |
| EriC^^ | i got it for like $140 i think | 08:00 |
| lotuspsychje | thats ok | 08:00 |
| EriC^^ | new i think like 900+, nobody buys new usually | 08:01 |
| lotuspsychje | wow | 08:01 |
| lotuspsychje | depends on car type i hope... | 08:01 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 08:01 |
| EriC^^ | bmw here, so everything is more expensive usually | 08:01 |
| lotuspsychje | ah yes | 08:02 |
| lotuspsychje | wich type you got | 08:02 |
| EriC^^ | e30 m3 | 08:02 |
| lotuspsychje | http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/performancebmw-001_edited1-750x500.jpg | 08:03 |
| lotuspsychje | like this | 08:03 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 08:04 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 08:04 |
| lotuspsychje | retro bmw are cool | 08:04 |
| EriC^^ | yeah they're fun | 08:04 |
| EriC^^ | this is an old video of it, needed some bodywork though http://vid24.photobucket.com/albums/c23/liquidtension369/marrkz_zpseff5ad0c.mp4 | 08:06 |
| lotuspsychje | looool | 08:06 |
| EriC^^ | it had twin turbos back then from subaru wrx, and low boost, like 380bhp | 08:06 |
| lotuspsychje | toky drift | 08:06 |
| lotuspsychje | tokyo | 08:06 |
| EriC^^ | lol | 08:07 |
| EriC^^ | cars are fun ah | 08:08 |
| lotuspsychje | :p:p | 08:08 |
| EriC^^ | especially in lebanon cause we don't have a lot of traffic laws etc. | 08:09 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah not looking good for older cars | 08:09 |
| lotuspsychje | in citys n such | 08:09 |
| lotuspsychje | older diesel motors paying | 08:12 |
| EriC^^ | yeah that's true | 08:13 |
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| histo | This guy | 09:22 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 09:22 |
| histo | Am I missing something? | 09:24 |
| lotuspsychje | no, he's just complaining | 09:24 |
| histo | logic fail | 09:25 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: how's the shop coming together? | 09:36 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: i just passed my exam for enterpreneur | 09:37 |
| EriC^^ | great! | 09:37 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: so we have to move to a new house first | 09:37 |
| EriC^^ | congrats! | 09:37 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 09:37 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: tnx mate, after we find a house, ill start the shop | 09:37 |
| lotuspsychje | well mini shop, from our house | 09:38 |
| lotuspsychje | with website | 09:38 |
| EriC^^ | awesome | 09:38 |
| lotuspsychje | with desktops,laptops,smartphones and tablets all with ubuntu | 09:39 |
| histo | exam for enterpreneur? | 09:39 |
| lotuspsychje | histo: yes, not sure if your country needs that | 09:39 |
| lotuspsychje | histo: its an exam for the financial part of your business | 09:39 |
| lotuspsychje | we need it to be able to start | 09:39 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: i will be able to ask lower prices to customers, without paying windows Os | 09:40 |
| histo | fml what country? | 09:40 |
| lotuspsychje | .be | 09:40 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: cool | 09:40 |
| histo | So glad to be murrica | 09:40 |
| lotuspsychje | wheres murrica | 09:41 |
| histo | 09:42 | |
| histo | _ _ ___ __ _ | 09:42 |
| histo | | | | / __|/ _` | | 09:42 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 09:42 |
| histo | | |_| \__ \ (_| | | 09:42 |
| histo | \__,_|___/\__,_| | 09:42 |
| histo | 09:42 | |
| lotuspsychje | coming to murrica | 09:42 |
| lotuspsychje | with eddy smurphy | 09:42 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: but i wont be able to ship ate start, to lower my costs | 09:43 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: ill start localy, and if i earn good, ill ship more far | 09:44 |
| histo | lotuspsychje: what kind of shop is this going to be? | 09:44 |
| lotuspsychje | histo: ubuntu computers with only samsung pro 850 ssd's inside | 09:44 |
| lotuspsychje | histo: and ubuntu touch on tablets and phones | 09:44 |
| lotuspsychje | all with LTS | 09:44 |
| grunhart | Will you provide support? o_o | 09:45 |
| EriC^^ | i was just thinking that | 09:45 |
| lotuspsychje | yes why? | 09:45 |
| grunhart | If so... Goooooooood ultra mega super luck. | 09:45 |
| lotuspsychje | you dont think the masses cant handle ubuntu? | 09:45 |
| grunhart | Frankly, not yet. ._. | 09:46 |
| EriC^^ | i was thinking it would be pretty cool and make people want to get it more | 09:46 |
| grunhart | I wish they could. | 09:46 |
| lotuspsychje | my father is like 78 year old, never been able to mess up his ubuntu desktop yet | 09:46 |
| lotuspsychje | with windows, i had to come every week to solve things | 09:46 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: why is shipping abroad more costly? | 09:46 |
| EriC^^ | ( to you i mean ) | 09:46 |
| grunhart | My mother is 50, tried Linux and failed hard. | 09:46 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: well in my country alot of buisnesses send for free: order today, get hardware tomorrow | 09:47 |
| lotuspsychje | for free.. | 09:47 |
| lotuspsychje | i cant combat this strategy | 09:47 |
| EriC^^ | hmm you can't ship abroad for free though | 09:47 |
| EriC^^ | maybe locally i guess | 09:47 |
| EriC^^ | but everybody online charges extra for shipping internationally | 09:47 |
| EriC^^ | ( customer pays ) | 09:47 |
| lotuspsychje | i want also to install and tweak the boxes before i sell | 09:47 |
| lotuspsychje | install things like preload, skype,.. | 09:48 |
| lotuspsychje | tweak fstab ssd | 09:48 |
| EriC^^ | yeah that'd be helpful | 09:49 |
| EriC^^ | maybe a little guide or something on the usage or something | 09:49 |
| lotuspsychje | so customer orders=barebones come to me=i install+tweak=customer comes get it | 09:49 |
| grunhart | Kinda, I'm not seeing much ppl using Skype lately. | 09:49 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: yep, the dutch wiki page is very helpfull | 09:49 |
| EriC^^ | or a print out of a good ubuntu manual | 09:49 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: maybe the one from !manual | 09:50 |
| lotuspsychje | that pdf | 09:50 |
| lotuspsychje | !manual | 09:50 |
| ubot5 | The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ | 09:50 |
| OerHeks | :-) | 09:50 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: like give them also a free usb that has a live session with instructions on how to recover | 09:50 |
| EriC^^ | that'd be sick | 09:50 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: good idea! | 09:50 |
| grunhart | Print manuals, leave the PDF in the desktop too. /thumbsup | 09:50 |
| lotuspsychje | and lighting fast bootup :p | 09:51 |
| lotuspsychje | the only thing i dont know yet | 09:51 |
| lotuspsychje | is the barebone brand | 09:51 |
| lotuspsychje | i have BTO and clevo laptops for now | 09:52 |
| lotuspsychje | but i rather would use HP or DELL hardware | 09:52 |
| lotuspsychje | but as small company dell and hp wouldnt send pc's one by one i think | 09:53 |
| lotuspsychje | ill have to buy 100 or more | 09:53 |
| lotuspsychje | so if someone finds a good solution for that | 09:54 |
| lotuspsychje | to get cheap barebones | 09:54 |
| lotuspsychje | lemme know :p | 09:54 |
| EriC^^ | the answer to many problems | 09:57 |
| EriC^^ | alibaba.com | 09:57 |
| EriC^^ | :P | 09:57 |
| lotuspsychje | looool | 09:57 |
| * lotuspsychje grinds the magic lamp | 09:57 | |
| EriC^^ | lol, seriously there's a website called alibaba | 09:57 |
| EriC^^ | from china, you could buy anything and it's cheap ah | 09:58 |
| EriC^^ | http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=laptops | 09:58 |
| EriC^^ | there's a freaking plastic injection mold for laptops first item | 09:58 |
| EriC^^ | lol | 09:58 |
| EriC^^ | you could make your own if you want haha | 09:58 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 09:59 |
| grunhart | I keep saying to my friends that China will conquer the world, but theeeey belive me? Nooooo... | 09:59 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: how long would that take to ship to europe? | 10:00 |
| lotuspsychje | grunhart: lol! | 10:00 |
| EriC^^ | if you're buying in a container, i guess maybe a 1-2 weeks | 10:01 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: you want me to order a container full barebones? | 10:01 |
| EriC^^ | that's how it's done | 10:01 |
| lotuspsychje | ah right | 10:01 |
| EriC^^ | :P | 10:01 |
| lotuspsychje | because you order 2000 devices, you get them cheap | 10:02 |
| EriC^^ | if you know people on the docks in your country, in the tariff thing, you could make it very cheap too | 10:02 |
| lotuspsychje | i rather need local, configurable barebones that can send in 1 day | 10:02 |
| EriC^^ | yeah, you need to get a large quantity, for cheap | 10:02 |
| EriC^^ | my friend got a container of car parts from china with my other friend | 10:03 |
| EriC^^ | parts for suby's and evo's etc for high priced cars that can be tuned easily | 10:03 |
| lotuspsychje | i cant order large quantity, to lower costs at start | 10:04 |
| EriC^^ | anyways he opened a shop and he's killing it | 10:04 |
| lotuspsychje | i dotn wanna bankrupt :p | 10:04 |
| lotuspsychje | im also gonna do alot of windows==>ubuntu converts | 10:04 |
| EriC^^ | if you can get about 100 laptops that's great | 10:04 |
| EriC^^ | if they ship 100 laptops, i guess it needs a container though | 10:05 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: true, but ill have to be sure all hardware works before on ubuntu | 10:05 |
| lotuspsychje | rather want something local, to go install test first | 10:05 |
| EriC^^ | also if you have somebody else who gets stuff from china, you could share the container with him and pay him | 10:05 |
| lotuspsychje | see how fast the thing works | 10:05 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: maybe interesting after few years for me | 10:06 |
| EriC^^ | that's a waste man | 10:08 |
| EriC^^ | windows to ubuntu | 10:08 |
| lotuspsychje | what you mean | 10:09 |
| lordievader | Hello | 10:09 |
| EriC^^ | won't you have to pay more for it? | 10:09 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: i will ask a price to install ubuntu ofcourse, and plugin ssd also | 10:09 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: morning! | 10:09 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: 30 euro install 120 euro ssd | 10:10 |
| lordievader | lotuspsychje: Afternoon ;) | 10:10 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Fashion-laptop-14-inch-i5-laptop_964882365.html | 10:10 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: and they have ubuntu monster | 10:10 |
| EriC^^ | this is an i5 and it has a 24gb ssd and 500gb hdd ( hybrid ) i dunno dont ask me | 10:10 |
| EriC^^ | anyways price $60 to $650 depending on quantity that you order | 10:10 |
| lordievader | lotuspsychje: How is the market here for (paid) Windows -> Ubuntu conversions? | 10:11 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: dont want the Os win7 and hybrid ssd | 10:11 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 10:11 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: what do you mean? | 10:11 |
| lordievader | 20-12:04 < lotuspsychje> im also gonna do alot of windows==>ubuntu converts | 10:12 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: yeah ill try to convince users to make the transition | 10:12 |
| lordievader | What is a lot? Do you suspect/know that a lot of people want this? | 10:12 |
| lotuspsychje | yes | 10:12 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: i already do it right now, for ppl i know | 10:12 |
| lordievader | That is what? 20? | 10:13 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: installed more then 50 times trusty | 10:13 |
| lordievader | Ah, nice. | 10:13 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: but right now i cant make comercial...with my store i will send flyers | 10:14 |
| lotuspsychje | website | 10:14 |
| lotuspsychje | ill really try to make the difference | 10:14 |
| lordievader | What will be the main income post of the shop? Sale of Ubu pc's? | 10:14 |
| lotuspsychje | cheaper/safer/longer lasting computers | 10:14 |
| lordievader | How do you guarentee the longer lasting part? | 10:15 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: sale/converts/security advise/backups/windows recoverys for hardcore customers | 10:15 |
| lordievader | Hardcore customers? Won't they do these things themselves? | 10:15 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: there are many .nl articles about energy part of ubuntu making the laptops live longer then windows | 10:15 |
| lordievader | I'm not trying to sound negative, just interested in how much thought went into it ;) | 10:16 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: you have any idea how many ppl cant recover | 10:16 |
| lotuspsychje | i worked in mediamarkt for a while | 10:16 |
| lotuspsychje | daily customers pay 50 euro for win8 recovery.. | 10:16 |
| lordievader | You know Ubuntu without tuning isn't very energy efficient? | 10:16 |
| lotuspsychje | thats why ill tune the system first, before selling | 10:16 |
| lordievader | Nice, nice. | 10:17 |
| lotuspsychje | another agurment will be, the customer will never come back to solve virus issues | 10:18 |
| lordievader | Is that a good, or a bad thing :P | 10:18 |
| lotuspsychje | for my business= no virus=no money :p | 10:18 |
| lotuspsychje | but the image of the business will work good | 10:18 |
| EriC^^ | nothing a backdoor can't fix | 10:18 |
| EriC^^ | j/k | 10:18 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 10:18 |
| lordievader | Hehe | 10:19 |
| lotuspsychje | !info rkhunter | 10:19 |
| lordievader | O hey, what is this ssh key doing here giving access to root....? | 10:19 |
| EriC^^ | good idea mod the rkhunter bin :P | 10:19 |
| lotuspsychje | eat this backdoor! | 10:19 |
| ubot5 | rkhunter (source: rkhunter): rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-0.4 (vivid), package size 194 kB, installed size 1027 kB | 10:19 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: yeah and i watch the webcams from the users from my home roflol | 10:20 |
| EriC^^ | hi mam, i need to ask you a few questions to determine the most suitable laptop | 10:20 |
| lotuspsychje | looool | 10:20 |
| EriC^^ | first question, do you have hot women in your household? | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | and ill install this too: | 10:21 |
| EriC^^ | ok..ok.. i see... | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | !info keylogger | 10:21 |
| ubot5 | Package keylogger does not exist in vivid | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | !info logkeys | 10:21 |
| ubot5 | logkeys (source: logkeys): keylogger for GNU/Linux systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1a+git5ef6b0dcb9e3-2 (vivid), package size 32 kB, installed size 120 kB | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | yeayyyy | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | come to daddy | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | lol bbl dinner | 10:22 |
| EriC^^ | ttyl | 10:23 |
| lordievader | Talking about rkhunter, lets see if I need to configure it further. | 10:23 |
| lordievader | Lets update it first... | 10:25 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: i check the clamav virus database last time, and it holded that latest linux eploit | 10:58 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ sudo rkhunter --check | 11:03 |
| lotuspsychje | [ Rootkit Hunter version 1.4.0 ] | 11:03 |
| lordievader | 1.4.2 is the latest. | 11:10 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: im on trusty :p | 11:11 |
| lordievader | I am too ;) Changed the install script to install it to /opt. | 11:11 |
| lotuspsychje | Rootkit checks... | 11:12 |
| lotuspsychje | Rootkits checked : 292 | 11:12 |
| lotuspsychje | Possible rootkits: 0 | 11:12 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: you know the package 'prey' | 11:13 |
| lotuspsychje | laptop anti theft | 11:14 |
| lotuspsychje | !info prey | 11:15 |
| ubot5 | prey (source: prey): utility for tracking stolen computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (vivid), package size 514 kB, installed size 1301 kB | 11:15 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: good day mate | 11:19 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:19 |
| BluesKaj | Hi lotuspsychje, what's up today ? | 11:20 |
| lotuspsychje | oh nothing much really | 11:20 |
| OerHeks | Heya BluesKaj | 11:21 |
| BluesKaj | Hey OerHeks | 11:23 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: i just tried it | 11:45 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: wich one? | 11:45 |
| EriC^^ | is it normal it said suspect file /usr/bin/unhide.rb [ Warning ] | 11:45 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah thats normal | 11:45 |
| EriC^^ | it's own file? | 11:46 |
| EriC^^ | also it didn't find a backdoor i've put in case i forget the password :P | 11:46 |
| lotuspsychje | loool | 11:46 |
| EriC^^ | ls -l /usr/bin/.bkdr1 | 11:46 |
| EriC^^ | -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 8668 Sep 2 2014 /usr/bin/.bkdr1 | 11:46 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 11:47 |
| OerHeks | backdoor > http://cl.jroo.me/z3/O/4/x/e/a.baa-Strange-place-for-an-door-lo.jpg | 11:47 |
| * lotuspsychje starting nmap -PN -sV 127.0.0.1...interesting ports: whoopsie | 11:48 | |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: lol | 11:48 |
| lotuspsychje | now to be serious again, the ubuntu-hardened guys solve alot of ubuntu exploits these days | 11:49 |
| lotuspsychje | there must be more linux rootkits out there then we think | 11:49 |
| OerHeks | sure, chrome with its mic | 11:50 |
| EriC^^ | it can't possibly find all rootkits | 11:50 |
| EriC^^ | i guess you need to use a bunch of stuff | 11:51 |
| lotuspsychje | indeed, the most are specialized and made by linux r00ters themselfs | 11:51 |
| EriC^^ | debsums is important | 11:51 |
| EriC^^ | !info debsums | 11:51 |
| ubot5 | debsums (source: debsums): tool for verification of installed package files against MD5 checksums. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.53 (vivid), package size 41 kB, installed size 200 kB | 11:51 |
| lotuspsychje | and to be suspicious by nature aswell | 11:51 |
| lotuspsychje | folders grow bigger with data, unusual ip attempts | 11:52 |
| lotuspsychje | and the biggest one of all, servers 24/7 are the main targets | 11:52 |
| lotuspsychje | r00ters hunt servers exploits, even for linux and install their own kit on it | 11:54 |
| EriC^^ | yeah, i guess web applications that are poorly written are easily exploitable | 11:55 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: yeah web is the worst | 11:55 |
| EriC^^ | other stuff gets patched quickly, but there's also the stuff that isn't official yet | 11:55 |
| lotuspsychje | 0day exploits for big $$$ | 11:55 |
| lotuspsychje | installed on botnets, then scans whole ip ranges | 11:56 |
| lordievader | lotuspsychje: Ah, that one. Used it for a while. | 11:56 |
| lotuspsychje_ | hmm xchat lag, what did i miss | 11:58 |
| OerHeks | coffee, hamburgers, €100.000 | 11:59 |
| lotuspsychje_ | lol | 11:59 |
| lotuspsychje_ | OerHeks: do you 'dip' them in the coffee like donuts? | 11:59 |
| OerHeks | xchat .. you should run hexchat | 11:59 |
| lotuspsychje_ | why's that | 11:59 |
| OerHeks | xchat is dead | 11:59 |
| lordievader | Irssi ftw! | 12:00 |
| lotuspsychje_ | lordievader: oldskool boy :p | 12:00 |
| lotuspsychje_ | i love xchats colors, green on black like terminal | 12:00 |
| lordievader | Not really oldskool, more server oriented ;) | 12:00 |
| lotuspsychje_ | right | 12:00 |
| lotuspsychje_ | love colorized stuff in terminal | 12:01 |
| === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje | ||
| * lordievader currently uses a green on black Kitty | 12:02 | |
| lotuspsychje | 0o | 12:02 |
| * lotuspsychje|HEX pokes OerHeks | 12:03 | |
| OerHeks | :-) | 12:04 |
| lotuspsychje | its all the same almost | 12:04 |
| OerHeks | Yes, some small impovements. | 12:04 |
| OerHeks | like, click on the open channel name, you can add it easily to auto-join | 12:05 |
| lotuspsychje|HEX | nice | 12:06 |
| === lotuspsychje|HEX is now known as lotuspsychje | ||
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: there we go, ditched xchat | 12:16 |
| EriC^^ | went to the dark side eh lotuspsychje | 12:16 |
| lotuspsychje | yeh | 12:17 |
| EriC^^ | :p | 12:17 |
| lotuspsychje | i took the underground risk | 12:17 |
| OerHeks | This song is for brave lotuspsychje > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQsqBqxoR4&list=PLCQCtoOJpI_Dv_qQQknqkVUFyArB3CwcM&index=27 | 12:18 |
| OerHeks | :-D | 12:18 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 12:18 |
| EriC^^ | i'm trying it | 12:19 |
| EriC^^ | you can't set your name in it? | 12:19 |
| EriC^^ | no, i'm still on xchat :P | 12:20 |
| OerHeks | huh? why not? | 12:20 |
| EriC^^ | just installed hexchat, and have it open lotuspsychje | 12:20 |
| EriC^^ | there's just the nickname and username, no real name | 12:20 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: you want your artist name on irc? | 12:21 |
| EriC^^ | lol | 12:21 |
| EriC^^ | i mean the name, you know, | 12:21 |
| OerHeks | EriC^^, yes there is, edit connection, then you have that option | 12:22 |
| lotuspsychje | thats username no? | 12:22 |
| === EriC^ is now known as Guest62595 | ||
| lotuspsychje | ah you mean nickserv edit n such? | 12:22 |
| EriC^^ | [lotuspsychje] (~lotuspsyc@ip-81-11-181-50.dsl.scarlet.be): realname | 12:22 |
| EriC^^ | see yours is realname, so is mine | 12:22 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure i follow mate | 12:23 |
| lotuspsychje | theres nickname, username in server list | 12:24 |
| lotuspsychje | second name | 12:24 |
| lotuspsychje | etc | 12:24 |
| EriC^^ | open xchat you'll see | 12:24 |
| EriC^^ | there's nickname, second name in case it's taken, and the username which is the identd and the realname | 12:24 |
| lotuspsychje_ | ah yes | 12:24 |
| OerHeks | http://i.imgur.com/gZicFK3.png | 12:25 |
| OerHeks | i see real name within connection details | 12:25 |
| lotuspsychje_ | oh there | 12:26 |
| lotuspsychje_ | global information | 12:26 |
| lotuspsychje_ | missed that spot | 12:27 |
| lotuspsychje | find it EriC^^ ? | 12:27 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 12:28 |
| EriC^^ | i tried tripwire now, it's pretty good it, it tells you whatever files have been added or modified | 12:31 |
| lotuspsychje | !info tripwire | 12:31 |
| OerHeks | heuristic scanners are more important than searching for special files. | 12:31 |
| ubot5 | tripwire (source: tripwire): file and directory integrity checker. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.2.2-4 (vivid), package size 1296 kB, installed size 9122 kB | 12:31 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 12:32 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: from the whole system? | 12:32 |
| EriC^^ | rkhunter didn't do anything, almost | 12:32 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: yeah, i added a backdoor and then scanned | 12:32 |
| EriC^^ | Added: "/usr/bin/.bla" | 12:32 |
| lotuspsychje | ah you wasnt joking | 12:32 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 12:32 |
| EriC^^ | and it uses a hash so i guess if somebody get's root he can't update the database it uses to check | 12:32 |
| lotuspsychje | cant tell the difference anymore | 12:33 |
| EriC^^ | lol, no it's a tiny backdoor i wrote just to get a root shell | 12:33 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: did you scan system with clamav? | 12:33 |
| OerHeks | EriC^^, did you use this 4-part tutorial ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235300 | 12:33 |
| EriC^^ | nope i just did tripwire -m i, then tripwire -m c | 12:33 |
| EriC^^ | i'll check | 12:33 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: checked its database last time, and had that most recent linux rootkit | 12:33 |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: hex is pretty nice tnx | 12:35 |
| OerHeks | yw | 12:36 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ sudo freshclam | 12:38 |
| lotuspsychje | ClamAV update process started at Sat Jun 20 14:38:14 2015 | 12:38 |
| lotuspsychje | clamav still scanning | 13:05 |
| OerHeks | Does it look for frontdoors open too? | 13:06 |
| lotuspsychje | scans everything | 13:08 |
| EriC^^ | windows? | 13:10 |
| EriC^^ | chimneys? | 13:10 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 13:10 |
| lotuspsychje | !info snort | 13:10 |
| ubot5 | snort (source: snort): flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.7.0-4 (vivid), package size 646 kB, installed size 2099 kB | 13:10 |
| lotuspsychje | oink | 13:10 |
| lotuspsychje | ----------- SCAN SUMMARY ----------- | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Known viruses: 3850200 | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Engine version: 0.98.7 | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Scanned directories: 67558 | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Scanned files: 262902 | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Infected files: 0 | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Total errors: 18042 | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Data scanned: 6651.85 MB | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Data read: 10266.86 MB (ratio 0.65:1) | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Time: 3311.738 sec (55 m 11 s) | 13:34 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ | 13:34 |
| EriC^^ | almost 4 million viruses | 13:35 |
| lotuspsychje | thats crazy ammount | 13:35 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl pancake time | 13:37 |
| linux_hacker | Why would the desktop edition of Ubuntu need the /srv directory? | 14:27 |
| yt2 | hello | 16:02 |
| yt2 | .. | 16:02 |
| DJones | ObrienDave: Can you link me to the racist remark in #ubuntu you commented on | 19:25 |
| ObrienDave | [13:20:51] <gambl0re> i see a bunch of crackers in here... | 19:26 |
| DJones | ? So racist in what way | 19:26 |
| ObrienDave | crackers is a bad slang word for white people | 19:26 |
| ObrienDave | in the US | 19:26 |
| daftykins | sure is | 19:26 |
| DJones | Right, in most of the word, crackers is a slang term for people who hack computers | 19:27 |
| DJones | I'm afraid I can't see anything racist in the way it was put] | 19:27 |
| DJones | s/word/world | 19:27 |
| ObrienDave | yes, i'm and old fart, i know the proper (old) usage of crackers ;P | 19:27 |
| daftykins | DJones: even given the short paste your interpretation is not the correct one | 19:28 |
| DJones | ObrienDave: I'm an old fart as well | 19:28 |
| ObrienDave | :) | 19:28 |
| DJones | daftykins: So what would you do? | 19:29 |
| daftykins | depends if that user is carrying on, i'm not in there today :) | 19:29 |
| ObrienDave | let it slide for now. if it persists.... | 19:29 |
| daftykins | yeah | 19:29 |
| DJones | IT was a one off comment | 19:29 |
| daftykins | usually those comments are made by users that are pretty dumb and continue to use the enter key as punctuation | 19:29 |
| ObrienDave | that's why i'm not pursuing it | 19:29 |
| ObrienDave | with their elbows LOL | 19:30 |
| DJones | daftykins: Exactly, generally ignoring them is the fastest way forthem to quit, bans/quiets just provokes them, ignoring just frustrates them | 19:32 |
| OerHeks | "wait a minute" sure, when you type something, i'll wait a minute | 19:32 |
| daftykins | DJones: whatever, you had the comment wrong was all i was pointing out :P | 19:33 |
| daftykins | i dunno, you're either no action or kicking the wrong guys *facepalm* | 19:33 |
| daftykins | :) | 19:33 |
| DJones | I coudln't see anything in the comment that warrented a comment on racism | 19:34 |
| DJones | But thats just me | 19:34 |
| ObrienDave | *bites tongue* | 19:35 |
| DJones | Heh | 19:35 |
| daftykins | i suppose with blinkers on it is hard to understand ones true meaning | 19:42 |
| daftykins | new kernel time! | 19:42 |
| ObrienDave | new kernel? again? *sigh* | 19:43 |
| === Tm_T is now known as Guest97037 | ||
| === DJones_ is now known as DJones | ||
| === popey_ is now known as popey | ||
| Bashing-om | daftykins: " < iamthellama >" Are we having fun now ? :) | 22:45 |
| daftykins | usual idiot that won't take advice unless it's spoonfed | 22:46 |
| daftykins | :) | 22:46 |
| Bashing-om | I am always amazed, Seeks help cause does not know, then spurns advise . As if they know the better . yuk ! | 22:48 |
| daftykins | hehe yeah it's quite amusing eh? | 22:48 |
| daftykins | i do enjoy the power pulling fixes though, the users are always mystified as to how they could possibly help | 22:49 |
| daftykins | USB controller resets too | 22:49 |
| daftykins | sure is a curious one that, install ubuntu beside Windows - disks die, heh | 23:09 |
| Bashing-om | Yeah in tha case of < iamthellama >; most curios, I would expect GPT -- efi partition; ubuntu installed in legacy wipes out Windows boot partition ?? .. BUT the firmware not seeing the hard drive ! back to CMOS . Yup, what I think. | 23:17 |
| daftykins | mmm very odd | 23:18 |
| daftykins | lol what a fruitcake | 23:26 |
| daftykins | "it's amazing! how could ubuntu do this to my lovely SSD!?" | 23:26 |
| Bashing-om | There is that bug in the installer where it wipes out ALL Windows' partitions, but for sure that bug is not selective ! 'buntu will not beat up the SSD - I must chuckle here . | 23:32 |
| daftykins | Bashing-om: :) hrmm that was back in 14.04 no? | 23:33 |
| daftykins | the guy did mention installing with LVM, so eww | 23:33 |
| daftykins | DJones: hey, still think 'cracker' is totally innocent? | 23:37 |
| * daftykins spots a troll | 23:37 | |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Yeah it was 14.04, and recursion within grub.cfg was the culprit for the ATA errors. I recon driving the system nuts deciding what IRQ was what . | 23:40 |
| daftykins | ah har | 23:40 |
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