[03:15] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:16] <ObrienDave> waves
[03:17] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouv1Un1F36A
[03:17] <daftykins> this on a high-res laptop = amazing
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: nice on 4k
[03:25] <daftykins> sure is :)
[03:25] <Bashing-om> spectacular even without HD display .
[03:26] <daftykins> ruined on my desktop which is 1920x1200 per screen
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> interstellar was pretty nice too
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> maybe on panoramic cinema 4k would be amazing
[03:29] <daftykins> ;]
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> what you guys think of greece? will they leave the EU or stay?
[03:31] <daftykins> no idea :)
[03:31] <daftykins> coming from a small rock with a government independant of England even, you get used to not much news affecting you
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> oh, maybe you dont follow this news?
[03:32] <daftykins> been a while since i saw any tbh
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: morning mate
[07:19] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[07:20] <EriC^^> how's it going?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> great and you?
[07:20] <EriC^^> great
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> lazy staurdays irc :p
[07:20] <EriC^^> :D
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> saturday oO
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: our engine looks like this: http://en.nissan-club.eu/graphics/owners/full/10851_2023_kif_1344-m.jpg
[07:45] <EriC^^> nice
[07:45] <EriC^^> 16v rev nicely
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: where is that part that could be broken?
[07:46] <EriC^^> the alternator?
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> yeah?
[07:46] <EriC^^> you see that u-tube to the left? the rubber one?
[07:46] <EriC^^> it's right next to it, between the exhaust manifold
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> left under U?
[07:47] <EriC^^> you can see that red connector coming to it
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> ah yes
[07:47] <EriC^^> yeah to the left at the bottom of the screen
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> so thats the one i cant hit with the hammer right
[07:48] <EriC^^> haha yeah
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:48] <EriC^^> :D
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> no tricks to fix an alternator yourself?
[07:48] <EriC^^> well it depends, if the coils are bad i guess you're screwed
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: and the car cant be started with startcables, if the alternator is broken?
[07:49] <EriC^^> it's like a coil and there are brushes and when it spins it makes it charge the battery
[07:49] <EriC^^> but there's also a voltage regulator, and it controls the voltage, that could be bad, and that has like a piece and it could be broke or something
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> ah i see
[07:50] <EriC^^> it can be started, but it won't last long cause the car will be running only on the battery
[07:50] <EriC^^> when the alternator is working it charges the battery and the engine runs on it, and it should give around 14.5v
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: its the alternator keeping the battery loaded when driving then?
[07:51] <EriC^^> if you turn off the lights and everything it would last longer i guess
[07:51] <EriC^^> like if you charge the battery fully and start the car and leave you could make it home if it's not that far away
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> right
[07:52] <EriC^^> but if the battery is dead you could only start it for a little
[07:52] <EriC^^> if you use cables
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> the weird thing is we can play radio
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> and battery is just new
[07:52] <EriC^^> yeah radio probably works
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> and we was able to start it again after few hours car rest
[07:52] <EriC^^> but when you start the car doesn't the radio turn off?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> no
[07:52] <EriC^^> yeah the battery recharges a little bit when you leave it
[07:53] <EriC^^> it could also be the belt of the alternator is broken
[07:53] <EriC^^> did you check that?
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> those plastic belts around those wheels?
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> are still there
[07:53] <EriC^^> yeah the belts to the left
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> with tension on it yes
[07:54] <EriC^^> oh ok
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> saw those
[07:54] <EriC^^> btw jump starting isn't recommended
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> with start cables you mean?
[07:54] <EriC^^> cause when the car starts there will be a power surge, and new cars with engine management computers will go toast sometimes
[07:55] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:55] <EriC^^> so if you wanna cable start it, unplug the battery from the other car first
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> that can damage the new car feeding up the cable then?
[07:55] <EriC^^> yeah and also yours if yours has a computer
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> its an old almera
[07:56] <EriC^^> still it has fuel injection
[07:56] <EriC^^> and probably an ignition unit
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[07:57] <EriC^^> i used to have alternator problems
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: did it also make weird sounds when turning the key?
[07:58] <EriC^^> i kept burning them, cause the engine revs a lot ( 8000+rpm ) and the alternator has a air duct for cooling but it's not attached to the front cause it's an engine swap
[07:58] <EriC^^> it's been ok for like 4-5 years though *knock on wood* :P
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:59] <EriC^^> i think it's cause i got a used alternator, last time i also got one but i guess it was better
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> ah
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> new alternator might last longer?
[07:59] <EriC^^> if it's just the regulator they are cheap and it's easy to swap
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> lets hope its that :p
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> how cheap is an alternator? :p
[08:00] <EriC^^> if it's the coils, it can be rebuilt, or get a used one i guess
[08:00] <EriC^^> it's too much to pay for new parts you know
[08:00] <EriC^^> i got it for like $140 i think
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> thats ok
[08:01] <EriC^^> new i think like 900+, nobody buys new usually
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> wow
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> depends on car type i hope...
[08:01] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:01] <EriC^^> bmw here, so everything is more expensive usually
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> ah yes
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> wich type you got
[08:02] <EriC^^> e30 m3
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/performancebmw-001_edited1-750x500.jpg
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> like this
[08:04] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> nice
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> retro bmw are cool
[08:04] <EriC^^> yeah they're fun
[08:06] <EriC^^> this is an old video of it, needed some bodywork though http://vid24.photobucket.com/albums/c23/liquidtension369/marrkz_zpseff5ad0c.mp4
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> looool
[08:06] <EriC^^> it had twin turbos back then from subaru wrx, and low boost, like 380bhp
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> toky drift
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> tokyo
[08:07] <EriC^^> lol
[08:08] <EriC^^> cars are fun ah
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> :p:p
[08:09] <EriC^^> especially in lebanon cause we don't have a lot of traffic laws etc.
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> yeah not looking good for older cars
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> in citys n such
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> older diesel motors paying
[08:13] <EriC^^> yeah that's true
[09:22] <histo> This guy
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:24] <histo> Am I missing something?
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> no, he's just complaining
[09:25] <histo> logic fail
[09:36] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: how's the shop coming together?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i just passed my exam for enterpreneur
[09:37] <EriC^^> great!
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: so we have to move to a new house first
[09:37] <EriC^^> congrats!
[09:37] <EriC^^> cool
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: tnx mate, after we find a house, ill start the shop
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> well mini shop, from our house
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> with website
[09:38] <EriC^^> awesome
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> with desktops,laptops,smartphones and tablets all with ubuntu
[09:39] <histo> exam for enterpreneur?
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> histo: yes, not sure if your country needs that
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> histo: its an exam for the financial part of your business
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> we need it to be able to start
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i will be able to ask lower prices to customers, without paying windows Os
[09:40] <histo> fml what country?
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> .be
[09:40] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: cool
[09:40] <histo> So glad to be murrica
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> wheres murrica
[09:42] <histo>                  
[09:42] <histo>  _   _ ___  __ _
[09:42] <histo> | | | / __|/ _` |
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:42] <histo> | |_| \__ \ (_| |
[09:42] <histo>  \__,_|___/\__,_|
[09:42] <histo>                  
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> coming to murrica
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> with eddy smurphy
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but i wont be able to ship ate start, to lower my costs
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ill start localy, and if i earn good, ill ship more far
[09:44] <histo> lotuspsychje: what kind of shop is this going to be?
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> histo: ubuntu computers with only samsung pro 850 ssd's inside
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> histo: and ubuntu touch on tablets and phones
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> all with LTS
[09:45] <grunhart> Will you provide support? o_o
[09:45] <EriC^^> i was just thinking that
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> yes why?
[09:45] <grunhart> If so... Goooooooood ultra mega super luck.
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> you dont think the masses cant handle ubuntu?
[09:46] <grunhart> Frankly, not yet. ._.
[09:46] <EriC^^> i was thinking it would be pretty cool and make people want to get it more
[09:46] <grunhart> I wish they could.
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> my father is like 78 year old, never been able to mess up his ubuntu desktop yet
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> with windows, i had to come every week to solve things
[09:46] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: why is shipping abroad more costly?
[09:46] <EriC^^> ( to you i mean )
[09:46] <grunhart> My mother is 50, tried Linux and failed hard.
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: well in my country alot of buisnesses send for free: order today, get hardware tomorrow
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> for free..
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> i cant combat this strategy
[09:47] <EriC^^> hmm you can't ship abroad for free though
[09:47] <EriC^^> maybe locally i guess
[09:47] <EriC^^> but everybody online charges extra for shipping internationally
[09:47] <EriC^^> ( customer pays )
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> i want also to install and tweak the boxes before i sell
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> install things like preload, skype,..
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> tweak fstab ssd
[09:49] <EriC^^> yeah that'd be helpful
[09:49] <EriC^^> maybe a little guide or something on the usage or something
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> so customer orders=barebones come to me=i install+tweak=customer comes get it
[09:49] <grunhart> Kinda, I'm not seeing much ppl using Skype lately.
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yep, the dutch wiki page is very helpfull
[09:49] <EriC^^> or a print out of a good ubuntu manual
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: maybe the one from !manual
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> that pdf
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> !manual
[09:50] <OerHeks> :-)
[09:50] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: like give them also a free usb that has a live session with instructions on how to recover
[09:50] <EriC^^> that'd be sick
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: good idea!
[09:50] <grunhart> Print manuals, leave the PDF in the desktop too. /thumbsup
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> and lighting fast bootup :p
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> the only thing i dont know yet
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> is the barebone brand
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> i have BTO and clevo laptops for now
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> but i rather would use HP or DELL hardware
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> but as small company dell and hp wouldnt send pc's one by one i think
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> ill have to buy 100 or more
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> so if someone finds a good solution for that
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> to get cheap barebones
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> lemme know :p
[09:57] <EriC^^> the answer to many problems
[09:57] <EriC^^> alibaba.com
[09:57] <EriC^^> :P
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> looool
[09:57]  * lotuspsychje grinds the magic lamp
[09:57] <EriC^^> lol, seriously there's a website called alibaba
[09:58] <EriC^^> from china, you could buy anything and it's cheap ah
[09:58] <EriC^^> http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=laptops
[09:58] <EriC^^> there's a freaking plastic injection mold for laptops first item
[09:58] <EriC^^> lol
[09:58] <EriC^^> you could make your own if you want haha
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:59] <grunhart> I keep saying to my friends that China will conquer the world, but theeeey belive me? Nooooo...
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: how long would that take to ship to europe?
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> grunhart: lol!
[10:01] <EriC^^> if you're buying in a container, i guess maybe a 1-2 weeks
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: you want me to order a container full barebones?
[10:01] <EriC^^> that's how it's done
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> ah right
[10:01] <EriC^^> :P
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> because you order 2000 devices, you get them cheap
[10:02] <EriC^^> if you know people on the docks in your country, in the tariff thing, you could make it very cheap too
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> i rather need local, configurable barebones that can send in 1 day
[10:02] <EriC^^> yeah, you need to get a large quantity, for cheap
[10:03] <EriC^^> my friend got a container of car parts from china with my other friend
[10:03] <EriC^^> parts for suby's and evo's etc for high priced cars that can be tuned easily
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> i cant order large quantity, to lower costs at start
[10:04] <EriC^^> anyways he opened a shop and he's killing it
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> i dotn wanna bankrupt :p
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> im also gonna do alot of windows==>ubuntu converts
[10:04] <EriC^^> if you can get about 100 laptops that's great
[10:05] <EriC^^> if they ship 100 laptops, i guess it needs a container though
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: true, but ill have to be sure all hardware works before on ubuntu
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> rather want something local, to go install test first
[10:05] <EriC^^> also if you have somebody else who gets stuff from china, you could share the container with him and pay him
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> see how fast the thing works
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: maybe interesting after few years for me
[10:08] <EriC^^> that's a waste man
[10:08] <EriC^^> windows to ubuntu
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> what you mean
[10:09] <lordievader> Hello
[10:09] <EriC^^> won't you have to pay more for it?
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i will ask a price to install ubuntu ofcourse, and plugin ssd also
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: morning!
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: 30 euro install 120 euro ssd
[10:10] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Afternoon ;)
[10:10] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Fashion-laptop-14-inch-i5-laptop_964882365.html
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: and they have ubuntu monster
[10:10] <EriC^^> this is an i5 and it has a 24gb ssd and 500gb hdd ( hybrid ) i dunno dont ask me
[10:10] <EriC^^> anyways price $60 to $650 depending on quantity that you order
[10:11] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: How is the market here for (paid) Windows -> Ubuntu conversions?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: dont want the Os win7 and hybrid ssd
[10:11] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: what do you mean?
[10:12] <lordievader> 20-12:04 < lotuspsychje> im also gonna do alot of windows==>ubuntu converts
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: yeah ill try to convince users to make the transition
[10:12] <lordievader> What is a lot? Do you suspect/know that a lot of people want this?
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> yes
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: i already do it right now, for ppl i know
[10:13] <lordievader> That is what? 20?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: installed more then 50 times trusty
[10:13] <lordievader> Ah, nice.
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: but right now i cant make comercial...with my store i will send flyers
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> website
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> ill really try to make the difference
[10:14] <lordievader> What will be the main income post of the shop? Sale of Ubu pc's?
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> cheaper/safer/longer lasting computers
[10:15] <lordievader> How do you guarentee the longer lasting part?
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: sale/converts/security advise/backups/windows recoverys for hardcore customers
[10:15] <lordievader> Hardcore customers? Won't they do these things themselves?
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: there are many .nl articles about energy part of ubuntu making the laptops live longer then windows
[10:16] <lordievader> I'm not trying to sound negative, just interested in how much thought went into it ;)
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: you have any idea how many ppl cant recover
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> i worked in mediamarkt for a while
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> daily customers pay 50 euro for win8 recovery..
[10:16] <lordievader> You know Ubuntu without tuning isn't very energy efficient?
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> thats why ill tune the system first, before selling
[10:17] <lordievader> Nice, nice.
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> another agurment will be, the customer will never come back to solve virus issues
[10:18] <lordievader> Is that a good, or a bad thing :P
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> for my business= no virus=no money :p
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> but the image of the business will work good
[10:18] <EriC^^> nothing a backdoor can't fix
[10:18] <EriC^^> j/k
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:19] <lordievader> Hehe
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter
[10:19] <lordievader> O hey, what is this ssh key doing here giving access to root....?
[10:19] <EriC^^> good idea mod the rkhunter bin :P
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> eat this backdoor!
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: yeah and i watch the webcams from the users from my home roflol
[10:20] <EriC^^> hi mam, i need to ask you a few questions to determine the most suitable laptop
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> looool
[10:21] <EriC^^> first question, do you have hot women in your household?
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> and ill install this too:
[10:21] <EriC^^> ok..ok.. i see...
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> !info keylogger
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> !info logkeys
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> yeayyyy
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> come to daddy
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> lol bbl dinner
[10:23] <EriC^^> ttyl
[10:23] <lordievader> Talking about rkhunter, lets see if I need to configure it further.
[10:25] <lordievader> Lets update it first...
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: i check the clamav virus database last time, and it holded that latest linux eploit
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ sudo rkhunter --check
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> [ Rootkit Hunter version 1.4.0 ]
[11:10] <lordievader> 1.4.2 is the latest.
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: im on trusty :p
[11:11] <lordievader> I am too ;) Changed the install script to install it to /opt.
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> Rootkit checks...
[11:12] <lotuspsychje>     Rootkits checked : 292
[11:12] <lotuspsychje>     Possible rootkits: 0
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: you know the package 'prey'
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> laptop anti theft
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: good day mate
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje, what's up today ?
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> oh nothing much really
[11:21] <OerHeks> Heya BluesKaj
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hey OerHeks
[11:45] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: i just tried it
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: wich one?
[11:45] <EriC^^> is it normal it said suspect file /usr/bin/unhide.rb                                       [ Warning ]
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> yeah thats normal
[11:46] <EriC^^> it's own file?
[11:46] <EriC^^> also it didn't find a backdoor i've put in case i forget the password :P
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> loool
[11:46] <EriC^^> ls -l /usr/bin/.bkdr1
[11:46] <EriC^^> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 8668 Sep  2  2014 /usr/bin/.bkdr1
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:47] <OerHeks> backdoor > http://cl.jroo.me/z3/O/4/x/e/a.baa-Strange-place-for-an-door-lo.jpg
[11:48]  * lotuspsychje starting nmap -PN -sV 127.0.0.1...interesting ports: whoopsie
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lol
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> now to be serious again, the ubuntu-hardened guys solve alot of ubuntu exploits these days
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> there must be more linux rootkits out there then we think
[11:50] <OerHeks> sure, chrome with its mic
[11:50] <EriC^^> it can't possibly find all rootkits
[11:51] <EriC^^> i guess you need to use a bunch of stuff
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> indeed, the most are specialized and made by linux r00ters themselfs
[11:51] <EriC^^> debsums is important
[11:51] <EriC^^> !info debsums
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> and to be suspicious by nature aswell
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> folders grow bigger with data, unusual ip attempts
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> and the biggest one of all, servers 24/7 are the main targets
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> r00ters hunt servers exploits, even for linux and install their own kit on it
[11:55] <EriC^^> yeah, i guess web applications that are poorly written are easily exploitable
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yeah web is the worst
[11:55] <EriC^^> other stuff gets patched quickly, but there's also the stuff that isn't official yet
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> 0day exploits for big $$$
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> installed on botnets, then scans whole ip ranges
[11:56] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Ah, that one. Used it for a while.
[11:58] <lotuspsychje_> hmm xchat lag, what did i miss
[11:59] <OerHeks> coffee, hamburgers, €100.000
[11:59] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[11:59] <lotuspsychje_> OerHeks: do you 'dip' them in the coffee like donuts?
[11:59] <OerHeks> xchat .. you should run hexchat
[11:59] <lotuspsychje_> why's that
[11:59] <OerHeks> xchat is dead
[12:00] <lordievader> Irssi ftw!
[12:00] <lotuspsychje_> lordievader: oldskool boy :p
[12:00] <lotuspsychje_> i love xchats colors, green on black like terminal
[12:00] <lordievader> Not really oldskool, more server oriented ;)
[12:00] <lotuspsychje_> right
[12:01] <lotuspsychje_> love colorized stuff in terminal
[12:02]  * lordievader currently uses a green on black Kitty
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> 0o
[12:03]  * lotuspsychje|HEX pokes OerHeks 
[12:04] <OerHeks> :-)
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> its all the same almost
[12:04] <OerHeks> Yes, some small impovements.
[12:05] <OerHeks> like, click on the open channel name, you can add it easily to auto-join
[12:06] <lotuspsychje|HEX> nice
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: there we go, ditched xchat
[12:16] <EriC^^> went to the dark side eh lotuspsychje
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> yeh
[12:17] <EriC^^> :p
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> i took the underground risk
[12:18] <OerHeks> This song is for brave lotuspsychje > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQsqBqxoR4&list=PLCQCtoOJpI_Dv_qQQknqkVUFyArB3CwcM&index=27
[12:18] <OerHeks> :-D
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:19] <EriC^^> i'm trying it
[12:19] <EriC^^> you can't set your name in it?
[12:20] <EriC^^> no, i'm still on xchat :P
[12:20] <OerHeks> huh? why not?
[12:20] <EriC^^> just installed hexchat, and have it open lotuspsychje
[12:20] <EriC^^> there's just the nickname and username, no real name
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: you want your artist name on irc?
[12:21] <EriC^^> lol
[12:21] <EriC^^> i mean the name, you know,
[12:22] <OerHeks> EriC^^, yes there is, edit connection, then you have that option
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> thats username no?
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> ah you mean nickserv edit n such?
[12:22] <EriC^^> [lotuspsychje] (~lotuspsyc@ip-81-11-181-50.dsl.scarlet.be): realname
[12:22] <EriC^^> see yours is realname, so is mine
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> not sure i follow mate
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> theres nickname, username in server list
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> second name
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> etc
[12:24] <EriC^^> open xchat you'll see
[12:24] <EriC^^> there's nickname, second name in case it's taken, and the username which is the identd and the realname
[12:24] <lotuspsychje_> ah yes
[12:25] <OerHeks> http://i.imgur.com/gZicFK3.png
[12:25] <OerHeks> i see real name within connection details
[12:26] <lotuspsychje_> oh there
[12:26] <lotuspsychje_> global information
[12:27] <lotuspsychje_> missed that spot
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> find it EriC^^ ?
[12:28] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:31] <EriC^^> i tried tripwire now, it's pretty good it, it tells you whatever files have been added or modified
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> !info tripwire
[12:31] <OerHeks> heuristic scanners are more important than searching for special files.
[12:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: from the whole system?
[12:32] <EriC^^> rkhunter didn't do anything, almost
[12:32] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: yeah, i added a backdoor and then scanned
[12:32] <EriC^^> Added: "/usr/bin/.bla"
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> ah you wasnt joking
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:32] <EriC^^> and it uses a hash so i guess if somebody get's root he can't update the database it uses to check
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> cant tell the difference anymore
[12:33] <EriC^^> lol, no it's a tiny backdoor i wrote just to get a root shell
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: did you scan system with clamav?
[12:33] <OerHeks> EriC^^, did you use this 4-part tutorial ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235300
[12:33] <EriC^^> nope i just did tripwire -m i, then tripwire -m c
[12:33] <EriC^^> i'll check
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: checked its database last time, and had that most recent linux rootkit
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: hex is pretty nice tnx
[12:36] <OerHeks> yw
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ sudo freshclam
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> ClamAV update process started at Sat Jun 20 14:38:14 2015
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> clamav still scanning
[13:06] <OerHeks> Does it look for frontdoors open too?
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> scans everything
[13:10] <EriC^^> windows?
[13:10] <EriC^^> chimneys?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> !info snort
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> oink
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> ----------- SCAN SUMMARY -----------
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Known viruses: 3850200
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Engine version: 0.98.7
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Scanned directories: 67558
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Scanned files: 262902
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Infected files: 0
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Total errors: 18042
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Data scanned: 6651.85 MB
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Data read: 10266.86 MB (ratio 0.65:1)
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Time: 3311.738 sec (55 m 11 s)
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$
[13:35] <EriC^^> almost 4 million viruses
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> thats crazy ammount
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> bbl pancake time
[14:27] <linux_hacker> Why would the desktop edition of Ubuntu need the /srv directory?
[16:02] <yt2> hello
[16:02] <yt2> ..
[19:25] <DJones> ObrienDave: Can you link me to the racist remark in #ubuntu you commented on
[19:26] <ObrienDave> [13:20:51] <gambl0re> i see a bunch of crackers in here...
[19:26] <DJones> ? So racist in what way
[19:26] <ObrienDave> crackers is a bad slang word for white people
[19:26] <ObrienDave> in the US
[19:26] <daftykins> sure is
[19:27] <DJones> Right, in most of the word, crackers is a slang term for people who hack computers
[19:27] <DJones> I'm afraid I can't see anything racist in the way it was put]
[19:27] <DJones> s/word/world
[19:27] <ObrienDave> yes, i'm and old fart, i know the proper (old) usage of crackers ;P
[19:28] <daftykins> DJones: even given the short paste your interpretation is not the correct one
[19:28] <DJones> ObrienDave: I'm an old fart  as well
[19:28] <ObrienDave> :)
[19:29] <DJones> daftykins: So what would you do?
[19:29] <daftykins> depends if that user is carrying on, i'm not in there today :)
[19:29] <ObrienDave> let it slide for now. if it persists....
[19:29] <daftykins> yeah
[19:29] <DJones> IT was a one off comment
[19:29] <daftykins> usually those comments are made by users that are pretty dumb and continue to use the enter key as punctuation
[19:29] <ObrienDave> that's why i'm not pursuing it
[19:30] <ObrienDave> with their elbows LOL
[19:32] <DJones> daftykins: Exactly, generally ignoring them is the fastest way forthem to quit, bans/quiets just provokes them, ignoring just frustrates them
[19:32] <OerHeks> "wait a minute" sure, when you type something, i'll wait a minute
[19:33] <daftykins> DJones: whatever, you had the comment wrong was all i was pointing out :P
[19:33] <daftykins> i dunno, you're either no action or kicking the wrong guys *facepalm*
[19:33] <daftykins> :)
[19:34] <DJones> I coudln't see anything in the comment that warrented a comment on racism
[19:34] <DJones> But thats just me
[19:35] <ObrienDave> *bites tongue*
[19:35] <DJones> Heh
[19:42] <daftykins> i suppose with blinkers on it is hard to understand ones true meaning
[19:42] <daftykins> new kernel time!
[19:43] <ObrienDave> new kernel? again? *sigh*
[22:45] <Bashing-om> daftykins: " < iamthellama >" Are we having fun now ? :)
[22:46] <daftykins> usual idiot that won't take advice unless it's spoonfed
[22:46] <daftykins> :)
[22:48] <Bashing-om> I am always amazed, Seeks help cause does not know, then spurns advise . As if they know the better . yuk !
[22:48] <daftykins> hehe yeah it's quite amusing eh?
[22:49] <daftykins> i do enjoy the power pulling fixes though, the users are always mystified as to how they could possibly help
[22:49] <daftykins> USB controller resets too
[23:09] <daftykins> sure is a curious one that, install ubuntu beside Windows - disks die, heh
[23:17] <Bashing-om> Yeah in tha case of < iamthellama >; most curios, I would expect GPT -- efi partition; ubuntu installed in legacy wipes out Windows boot partition ?? .. BUT the firmware not seeing the hard drive ! back to CMOS . Yup, what I think.
[23:18] <daftykins> mmm very odd
[23:26] <daftykins> lol what a fruitcake
[23:26] <daftykins> "it's amazing! how could ubuntu do this to my lovely SSD!?"
[23:32] <Bashing-om> There is that bug in the installer where it wipes out ALL Windows' partitions, but for sure that bug is not selective ! 'buntu will not beat up the SSD - I must chuckle here .
[23:33] <daftykins> Bashing-om: :) hrmm that was back in 14.04 no?
[23:33] <daftykins> the guy did mention installing with LVM, so eww
[23:37] <daftykins> DJones: hey, still think 'cracker' is totally innocent?
[23:37]  * daftykins spots a troll
[23:40] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yeah it was 14.04, and recursion within grub.cfg was the culprit for the ATA errors. I recon driving the system nuts deciding what IRQ was what .
[23:40] <daftykins> ah har