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| major_majors | i'm in the middle of an Ubuntu server install. i've set up a software RAID 10 with 3 LVM volumes on top: /, /home, and swap. now i'm at the stage where it's asking me where i'd like to install GRUB and i'm lost. where should GRUB go in this configuration? | 03:20 |
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| nezZario | What kernel should I have running trusty? | 04:15 |
| nezZario | I have 3.13.0.-55-generic | 04:15 |
| nezZario | I have no clue what horrific things someone did to this server | 04:15 |
| sarnold | nezZario: that looks about right, seven hours ago 3.13.0-55.94 was released | 04:27 |
| sarnold | I'm not sure how the minor versions will appear in uname -a output, probably only dpkg -l output will have the 55.94 bit | 04:28 |
| nezZario | might make you laugh - very sleep deprived, meant to type "sudo chmod" and somehow typed chudo sumod (seriously) | 04:45 |
| nezZario | thanks sarnold, i'm going to sleep. =) | 04:45 |
| sarnold | nezZario: hah, that's awesome ;) | 04:45 |
| sarnold | nezZario: yeah, time to step away from the keyboard :) have a good night, nice weekend :) | 04:46 |
| Norbin | hello | 07:12 |
| Norbin | running latest ubuntu server through hyperv, the terminal window bugs on me, it finishes loading and then nothing responds, i can't type anything | 07:12 |
| Norbin | i was told to change the resolution via the grub config file which i did - tried different color depths/res codes | 07:12 |
| Norbin | but same issue persists | 07:13 |
| Norbin | i even reinstalled | 07:13 |
| Norbin | http://i.imgur.com/aCqYqhs.png | 07:14 |
| Norbin | this is what i see | 07:14 |
| sarnold | Norbin: I wonder if you turn off lightdm service if you'd get to a nice getty prompt or not | 07:15 |
| Norbin | shall i try it? via recovery? | 07:24 |
| Norbin | since i can't really do anything on the actual terminal | 07:24 |
| Norbin | only way i can 'do' something is via recovery / as root | 07:24 |
| Norbin | i think so at least, not a linux expert :) | 07:24 |
| Norbin | annnnd it works, did absulotely nothing but reinstalled for the 3rd time | 07:34 |
| RoyK | Norbin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/384602/ubuntu-hyper-v-guest-display-resolution <-- something like that? | 07:34 |
| RoyK | Norbin: I used to admin hyper-v and it was a PITA with ubuntu, this was v1, though, so hopefully better now | 07:35 |
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| LeMike | hello. I am doing a rsnapshot and want to have the date in the log. unfortunately the log always shows "/bin/date +%F" instead of the real date. how can I have the real date logged instead of the command? would you just append the output? | 09:44 |
| lordievader | Hello | 10:09 |
| LeMike | damn. my rsnapshot commands generate empty directories like "unused0" ... how do I avoid that? | 10:22 |
| jpds | LeMike: Real date as in "date -R"? | 10:30 |
| LeMike | any kind of date jpds. even `/bin/date` would be listed in the log but not it's output | 10:33 |
| jpds | LeMike: Wait, is this a script you wrote around rsnapshot? | 10:36 |
| LeMike | nope. I do `backup_script /bin/date +"backup started at %F"` and the command is written in the rsnapshot.log instead of it's output. I like to have the output logged or some kind of "started at 2015-06-20" in the log | 10:37 |
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| jpds | LeMike: So, why do you need that? | 10:38 |
| LeMike | to put those two lines in another script that will monitor the backups. jpds | 10:40 |
| jpds | LeMike: You can't read the cron output from syslog? | 10:40 |
| LeMike | Dunno. Can I? | 10:40 |
| jpds | LeMike: Well, cron logs every command to /var/log/syslog with a timestamp already. | 10:41 |
| LeMike | jpds: `grep rsnapshot /var/log/syslog` is empty :/ | 10:42 |
| jpds | LeMike: Do you run rsnapshot with cron? | 10:42 |
| jpds | LeMike: Also, you know that you can have the monitor check the timestamp of the last backup directory? | 10:43 |
| LeMike | yes rsnapshot runs via cron for three days now, jpds. the timestamp would not help, as I need to monitor the duration of every backup. | 10:44 |
| jpds | LeMike: This is on a centos box but: | 10:46 |
| jpds | 2015-06-18T21:00:01.174637+00:00 backup CROND[27783]: (backup) CMD (/usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly) | 10:46 |
| jpds | 2015-06-18T21:00:52.106269+00:00 backup rsnapshot[27830]: /usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly: completed successfully | 10:46 |
| jpds | /var/log/cron and /var/log/messages on centos. | 10:47 |
| LeMike | those files are not there :/ | 10:47 |
| jpds | LeMike: Yeah, not on Ubuntu, they're both in syslog. | 10:48 |
| LeMike | syslog does not have it. seems like the information will be lost there after some hours/days/lines. I need to have it persistent in the rsnapshot.log (which is in the backup) but with the proper date. | 10:50 |
| drAvanti | hello all, | 12:15 |
| drAvanti | can someone pls help me with info: I want to setup and ubuntu box as a file server, however I dont now if there is a gui app that can help manage users, their rights, inheritance and root folders, etc | 12:16 |
| RoyK | drAvanti: there are some, but generally not very good. you don't need to learn a whole lot to do it from the commandline, and you'll do it better and faster that way, and you'll end up understanding what really happens | 12:42 |
| RoyK | drAvanti: there are things like webmin (DON'T USE IT) and others, but still, better do it manually | 12:42 |
| RoyK | !webmin | 12:42 |
| ubottu | webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. | 12:42 |
| drAvanti | @Royk thanks for the info. But in a case where I would like a user to administer the server....add new users, create new folders, etc thats why I asked for a good gui | 12:43 |
| RoyK | drAvanti: how many users? | 12:43 |
| drAvanti | except if it can be done via a web browser. | 12:43 |
| drAvanti | like 60users | 12:43 |
| RoyK | !ebox | 12:44 |
| ubottu | zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04). | 12:44 |
| RoyK | oh, it's zentyal now... | 12:44 |
| drAvanti | k, thanks, ill check it out | 12:45 |
| RoyK | drAvanti: looks like http://ajenti.org/ is mentioned also | 12:47 |
| drAvanti | this zentyal looks commercial | 12:48 |
| RoyK | mhm - it was in ubuntu earlier - I don't quite follow these things | 12:49 |
| RoyK | ajenti is GPL, though, and on github | 12:50 |
| RoyK | https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-zentyal-on-ubuntu-14-04 | 12:50 |
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| trippeh | 64bit Ubuntu 15.04 boots in <1s and uses a whopping 20MB of RAM with sshd and some ntp running | 13:31 |
| trippeh | fairly minimal install based on Ubuntu Core (apt-get edition) though, but still impressive. | 13:32 |
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| RoyK | trippeh: systemd is doing its tricks, like with windows bootup, you get the login prompt before other things are started | 13:37 |
| trippeh | according to logs, its still within 1s | 13:37 |
| RoyK | you can see that on centos/rhel7 where you may have to wait a minute after the login prompt shows up, until you can ssh in | 13:38 |
| trippeh | also, not in container, but full vm with vga, bios etc. | 13:38 |
| RoyK | but then, centls/rhel sucks imho | 13:38 |
| trippeh | so that 20MB includes kernel | 13:38 |
| RoyK | I beleive so | 13:38 |
| RoyK | you'll probably need around 80MB for the whole boot, though, to unpack the initrd | 13:39 |
| RoyK | or you can strip down the initrd to only modules you use by setting MODULES=dep in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf | 13:39 |
| trippeh | 3400720 8197120 58.5% initrd.img-4.0.0-1 | 13:40 |
| RoyK | that's small | 13:40 |
| trippeh | oh, yeah, not ubuntu kernel, but I doubt that changes much besides initrd/vmlinuz size | 13:40 |
| trippeh | most of the initrd and extra vmlinuz stuff is discarded after use, though | 13:41 |
| RoyK | last I tried to boot debian on low memory, I came down to 56MB - lower than that just crashed | 13:41 |
| RoyK | yep... | 13:41 |
| RoyK | so don't use the standard initramfs for small systems ;) | 13:41 |
| * trippeh tests with modules=dep | 13:45 | |
| trippeh | well that broke boot ;) | 13:46 |
| RoyK | hehe | 13:46 |
| * RoyK wonders why | 13:47 | |
| trippeh | no wait, it came up, but something is wonky | 13:47 |
| trippeh | there we go | 13:50 |
| trippeh | virt bios is slowing the boot down ;) | 13:50 |
| RoyK | hehe | 13:50 |
| RoyK | kvm? | 13:50 |
| trippeh | yeah | 13:50 |
| RoyK | setting up 1504 in a kvm vm myself... | 13:51 |
| RoyK | (storage backend 7x2TB in RAIDz2) | 13:51 |
| trippeh | getting drm up takes like 0.1s too | 13:51 |
| RoyK | drm? | 13:51 |
| trippeh | I'm running off some NVMe storage. 450k iops :-) | 13:51 |
| trippeh | "graphics" | 13:52 |
| RoyK | ah | 13:52 |
| RoyK | I have a home server I use for this sort of things ;) | 13:52 |
| RoyK | that is - for everything | 13:52 |
| RoyK | cheap thing with 16 gigs of RAM and a bunch of drives | 13:52 |
| trippeh | could kill the graphics, hmm. kvm supports serial console ;) | 13:53 |
| RoyK | hehe | 13:53 |
| RoyK | we've been looking at Natinux at work for some stuff | 13:53 |
| RoyK | seems rather impressive | 13:54 |
| trippeh | link? | 13:55 |
| trippeh | I made systemd verbose but the frame rate is too low to show any of it, not even a flicker usually | 13:56 |
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| RoyK | trippeh: typo http://www.nutanix.com/ | 13:58 |
| RoyK | trippeh: after booting up, +/- buffers/cache tells me 56MB is used, only sshd installed | 14:04 |
| RoyK | and bootup is about the same as debian jessie | 14:05 |
| RoyK | bootup time | 14:05 |
| RoyK | pretty much the same, though, both systemd etc | 14:05 |
| trippeh | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MnG5rPHs | 14:11 |
| RoyK | nice | 14:13 |
| RoyK | I'll have to test that when our openstack cluster comes up | 14:14 |
| trippeh | with this much ram, 64bit is important! ;) | 14:14 |
| RoyK | I need about 1k VMs for stresstesting things :) | 14:14 |
| RoyK | HAHA | 14:14 |
| trippeh | I feel very retro adding 64MB of swap | 14:19 |
| RoyK | :) | 14:19 |
| trippeh | the 1+ GB/s disk I/O is very not retro though | 14:22 |
| RoyK | hehe | 14:23 |
| RoyK | I remember once I started playing with linux back in '94, I was amazed it could handle 1MB/s if I setup DMA correctly | 14:24 |
| trippeh | seems systemd likes to have at least 64MB system memory, or else journald gets sad | 14:33 |
| trippeh | bloat!! | 14:33 |
| trippeh | ;) | 14:33 |
| trippeh | even though its not really using it | 14:33 |
| jelly | not knowing what happened when your system ran out of RAM is more problematic than allocating a bit in advance | 14:55 |
| trippeh | jelly: sure, I'm just goofing around | 14:56 |
| RoyK | jelly: not knowing how much memory your system really needs is worse ;) | 14:59 |
| RoyK | jelly: and since most things are virtualised these days, memory is usually the bottleneck on the host machines, not CPU, so you really *do* want to know if this or that VM can run on 256MB or if it needs 4GB | 15:09 |
| trippeh | [ 1.243431] tsc: Refined TSC clocksource calibration: 3499.940 MHz | 18:12 |
| trippeh | [ 8783.366555] random: nonblocking pool is initialized | 18:12 |
| trippeh | that took a while :P | 18:12 |
| trippeh | RoyK: bootloader handoff to login in 0.4s :) | 18:37 |
| trippeh | didnt need all those "usb controllers" ;) | 18:38 |
| RoyK | hehe | 18:41 |
| trippeh | now if I could just boot KVM without BIOS emulation | 18:42 |
| trippeh | spends like half a second in there ;) | 18:42 |
| trippeh | hmm. maybe ovmf is faster | 18:43 |
| trippeh | (uefi firmware for kvm) | 18:43 |
| RoyK | I beleive you can - there are choices for direct boot | 18:46 |
| RoyK | but then you can't upgrade the kernel from the guest | 18:46 |
| trippeh | or the initramfs, looks like | 18:50 |
| trippeh | may be possible to load grub directly perhaps, like grub2 pv xen mode | 18:51 |
| trippeh | ah, it is. bunch of ceveats tho | 18:57 |
| RoyK | trippeh: guess you'll have to live with that awful 400ms delay - sorry about it | 19:33 |
| RoyK | trippeh: imagine the productivity cost, worldwide, if every reboot was 400ms shorter! | 19:33 |
| trippeh | ;-) | 19:34 |
| RoyK | thinking like an economist on bad drugs is sometimes rather fun ;) | 19:34 |
| trippeh | I'm going to need a separate non-virtio /boot looks like | 19:34 |
| RoyK | that shouldn't be a problem, though | 19:35 |
| RoyK | just an ext2 fs or something | 19:35 |
| trippeh | thats fine for this "experiment", but bit of a kludge otherwise | 19:36 |
| RoyK | perhaps a new standard comes up one day to do it better - but again - but you know how it goes ... https://xkcd.com/927/ | 19:38 |
| trippeh | plz someone just commit virtio support to grub2 ;) | 19:38 |
| trippeh | it supports "everything" already so whats one more thing! ;) | 19:38 |
| RoyK | trippeh: perhaps try #grub ;) | 19:45 |
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| LeMike | err. do I need to do a daily backup before rsnapshot weekly ? I mean on the same day | 20:18 |
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| Edtoast_46 | hi | 20:45 |
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