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daftykinsdiddledan_: have you seen 10 insider preview will stay activated after being updated to RTM? http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/19/upcoming-changes-to-windows-10-insider-preview-builds/01:01
diddledan_daftykins: provided you have a microsoft account added01:02
daftykinsyep01:02
daftykinswhich seemed to be a prereq for insider anyway01:02
diddledan_yeah01:02
diddledan_but I guess some folk acquired it by other means01:02
diddledan_http://www.avclub.com/article/david-tennant-joining-felicia-day-steven-yeun-comi-22113201:04
diddledan_cibopathy sounds.. disgusting01:04
m0nkey_wait, what?01:23
m0nkey_so if i'm running Windows 10 pro preview, I get to keep it?01:23
daftykinsja01:23
m0nkey_it's like mircosoft is giving away their software!01:26
diddledan_nevar!01:26
diddledan_they aren't gonna do that!?01:26
m0nkey_MS really want people to use Windows 1001:28
daftykinsyep01:29
daftykinsand it's actually good too01:29
m0nkey_so it's good for daily use?01:29
m0nkey_hmm, now what if I upgrade my 8.1 box?01:30
m0nkey_which is running the home edition01:30
daftykinsdepends what you run01:30
m0nkey_games mostly, probably netflix01:33
diddledan_the netflix app isn't bad01:36
diddledanoops02:12
diddledanbluescreen02:12
daftykinswhat are you up to causing that :P02:12
diddledanno idea02:13
diddledan"CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED"02:13
daftykinslol02:13
daftykinshrmm02:13
daftykinser hey diddledan02:13
diddledano/02:13
* daftykins walks up and whispers02:13
daftykinsyour HDD ok? ;)02:13
diddledanlol02:13
diddledanI would hope so02:13
diddledanit's a surface pro 3 so ssd02:13
daftykinsoh i was gonna talk to you about that02:14
daftykinsthat client seemed to want one, but i said since it's not upgradable there wasn't much point, plus no mobile data02:14
daftykinsso went the Lenovo X1 Carbon route instead02:14
diddledanmobile data is a pain02:14
diddledanor lack of it is02:15
daftykinsodd that the original or the 2 had it02:15
diddledanI think the "surface 2" had it? (note the lack of "pro")02:15
diddledanI'm unsure whether the 3(not pro) has it or not02:15
daftykinsmmm that one's too rubbish anyway02:16
daftykinsi was looking at a minimum of i5, 256GB 8GB for a 3 Pro which bumped the price a fair chunk02:16
diddledanaye. I went cheap and regret the lack of the extra 4gigs02:17
daftykins:<02:17
daftykinsi should play with the Lenovo more before i have to give it back02:17
diddledanI'm regularly using 95% of system ram02:17
diddledanI wonder if that's why I keep getting BSODS02:18
daftykinshaha02:18
daftykinsaaah, blows my mind every time i pick this thing up02:20
ali1234x220/x230 is best lenovo02:20
daftykinsbased on?02:21
ali1234based on me using on ethe other day, they're great02:21
ali1234everything works perfectly, and they're built just like a classic thinkpad, but without being huge and heavy02:21
daftykinsit's funny, i'd always pegged you as being far too calculated for such sensational remarks :)02:21
daftykinsworks as in with Linux?02:22
ali1234also you can get one for like £20002:22
ali1234yep02:22
ali1234they're not ultrabooks for sure, but they're not far off02:22
ali1234fingerprint scanner/3g not tested :)02:23
daftykinsthis one worked great with 14.04.202:23
ali1234same02:24
daftykinsthough the physical mouse buttons above the touchpad didn't, though that wasn't really a showstopper02:24
diddledan_ergh02:29
diddledan_another one02:29
daftykins:<02:30
diddledan_what have I missed? some church shooting...?02:33
daftykinsif you have i've missed it too02:36
diddledan_http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/charleston-suspect-appears-in-court-hearing/ar-AAbQO3v?ocid=spartanntp02:41
daftykinsCharleston just makes me think of the dance :/02:42
diddledan_lol02:45
daftykinshmm weird crime that one02:48
daftykinsodd to think you get people with these thoughts02:48
diddledan_I don't get the whole "you rape our women" bit02:49
diddledan_he said that to a woman02:49
diddledan_and to be fair the white man has raped black women historically more than vice versa02:50
diddledan_britain be like "hi africa! mind if we rock-up and sex all your ladies? yes? tough, we got boomboom sticks with gunpoweder"02:51
diddledan_am I still here?03:01
diddledan_my internets are broke03:01
diddledan_daftykins: can you fire-up a windows and tell me what the default system PATH is?03:01
diddledan_mine got nuked somehow03:01
daftykinsouch! i'm only on 7 atm but that should do03:04
daftykinssystem or user?03:04
daftykinsoh you said system03:05
* daftykins facepalms03:05
daftykinsC:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\AGL;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\SnapAPI\03:06
daftykinsi suspect those last two are junk03:06
diddledan_ta03:07
daftykinsnp :>03:07
diddledan_internet breakage was my freenas box decided to die - it was hunged, so as it is my dns server I couldn't resolve any addresses03:08
diddledan_and to diagnose I tried `ping` in the cmd.exe window which failed saying ping didn't exist - hence the discovery that my PATH was buffered03:09
diddledan_ping now works03:10
diddledan_reference for boomboom sticks: https://youtu.be/PWSYiGpLrHY03:11
daftykinshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouv1Un1F36A03:13
daftykinshaha oh dear03:13
daftykinswonky path is wonky03:13
diddledanthat video hunged my surface03:16
daftykinsXD03:17
* diddledan_ tries again03:17
daftykinsyou want the highest res device you have ideally03:17
diddledanyep that killed it again03:18
* diddledan tries it on this mac instead03:18
diddledancan you repaste the link?03:19
diddledan(different system means no clickie)03:20
daftykinshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouv1Un1F36A03:20
diddledan__what's that at 17 seconds?03:21
diddledan__the whispy smoke-like thing03:21
daftykinsgenuinely don't know03:21
diddledan__is the atmosphere escaping perhaps?03:22
daftykins:D03:22
daftykinsperhaps it's some propulsion remnants from that spacex capsule coming up03:23
diddledan__odd that my mac can't play it smoothly at full res03:23
diddledan__although I'm playing it in chrome03:24
* diddledan__ tries it in safari03:24
daftykinsretina model?03:25
diddledan__yup03:25
daftykinshrmm03:25
diddledan__seems better in safari03:26
diddledan__that's impressive footage03:29
daftykinssun's up03:31
diddledan__must be time for bed then :-p03:35
daftykins^_^03:36
daftykinsi kinda want to go admire my decking03:36
daftykinsdecking admired.03:43
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mapppshmm06:08
mapppsanyone know what my last gib ip was06:08
mapppscant find in logs06:08
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:35
SuperEngineerbrobostigon, I refuse to recognize that until your normal 10 o'clock announcement time ;)08:42
brobostigonlolz 2.4.1 :)08:43
SuperEngineermorning brobostigon :D09:00
SuperEngineer3.4.109:00
brobostigonmorning SuperEngineer :)09:00
* SuperEngineer goes shopping [yuk]09:15
foobarrymorph was on cbbc this morning12:46
foobarrythe kids will love it12:46
foobarrywatched a few on youtube already12:46
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mnrbigirc://irc.freenode.net/2600hz14:47
popeyO_O14:47
knightwiseyeeyz :)16:21
knightwiseI have gotten my Dell XPS13 :)16:21
diddledan__\o/16:21
* diddledan__ drools all overit16:21
diddledan__oops, short-circuit16:21
* knightwise towels up diddledan__'s drool ...16:21
knightwiseit is pretty rad . very glad I went with the standard HD matte screen version16:21
* knightwise inhales the smell of "new computer" :) 16:22
diddledan__did you get the ubuntified one or the windows one?16:22
diddledan__I love the smell of new magazines16:22
diddledan__I'm sure I look crazy when I get a new mag and bury my head inhaling deeply16:23
knightwiselol :)16:23
knightwiseMy wife used to work in a printshop16:24
knightwiseshe would come home smelling like magazine every single day :)16:24
diddledan__nice16:24
knightwisehmm.. not the healthiest smell you know. Ink and chemicals16:25
diddledan__did she mind you sniffing her as she comes in the door?16:25
diddledan__:-p16:25
diddledan__yeah, but luverly smeel nonetheless16:25
knightwiseLol :) I always sniff her when she comes to the door :p16:25
diddledan__I like the smell of petrol, too16:25
diddledan__some people hate that smell, and I'm like "how?"16:26
daftykinsthat's like unleaded petrol - and new electronics smells16:26
daftykinsmmm :>16:26
knightwisehmm.. new electronics smell :) Smelling that right now.16:26
diddledan__mmm16:26
knightwisemust say , the unboxing reminded me of unboxing my macs16:26
diddledan__what about the smell of electronics that you've accidentally overpowered to the point of a puff of elf-smoke16:27
Myrtticheck both speakers work lol16:27
knightwiseCheck !$16:27
knightwiseNow doing an apt-get update  - upgrade16:27
daftykinsMyrtti: amazing how it managed to jump out all of its' own accord :O16:28
diddledan__(elf smoke is when the elves in the circuits get too many electrons they send out smoke-signals to let you know they're having trouble)16:28
Myrttiall computers work on smoke16:28
Myrttiif the magic smoke escapes, then they don't work anymore16:28
knightwiseand ill do a sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid after that16:28
knightwiseand THEN i"ll make a system recovery disk.16:28
diddledan__Myrtti: I like that16:29
knightwiseThis little machine is gonna be my open source workhorse. no fancy hacks16:29
knightwiseFor those the lord createth the VM !16:29
daftykins:)16:29
knightwisetouchpad is acting a little funny out of the box. i think the kernell upgrade will fix that16:30
foobarryquite a lot of rain we just had16:49
knightwisefoobarry: they tell me its heading our way on monday16:50
foobarrymy day off: https://goo.gl/photos/iZ3roSNN8FXrLA319 https://goo.gl/photos/kpx9g1AiQrEqtzdF716:50
foobarryand much garden and b&q activity16:50
SuperEngineer-formattedfeeling good = formating the disk on external drive to allow a fresh /home backup17:16
daftykins=]17:17
SuperEngineerformattredfeeling good bad = forgetting hoe much time that completely new backup would take17:17
daftykinsUSB 2 huh?17:18
SuperEngineernah... 3 actually, but y'know.... borrriiiinnnnnggggg17:19
daftykinsah, write speed?17:19
SuperEngineerbut, daftykins, now feeling smug :)17:19
SuperEngineerwrite speed btw = "pp" [pi** poor]17:20
daftykinshrmm17:20
SuperEngineer;)17:21
daftykinsa nice modern laptop was writing to my 1.5TB seagate USB 3.0 external at no slower than 75-80MB/sec the other day :O17:21
daftykinsthat was very neat17:21
SuperEngineertempted to write a rude comment re boasting... but I'll just congratulate you instead ;]17:22
SuperEngineer... #jealous17:22
daftykinswell the interesting thing is that was a broadwell laptop17:23
daftykinsbut my ancient sandybridge laptop which uses a third party controller is way slower17:24
SuperEngineer[I'll take your word for "interesting"]17:24
SuperEngineerseems we both need a flock of magnetic carrier pidgeons!17:25
daftykins:D17:25
daftykinstbh i'd normally just plug into wired LAN for the laptops and have the file server to throw things onto at gigabit \o/17:26
SuperEngineer#jealous [again]17:26
daftykinsok i'll stop ;)17:27
SuperEngineer...on the other hand - I bet you're paying for your link to the outside world [#smug]17:27
daftykins:D you've got me there17:28
daftykinsalthough what speed does free get you? ;)17:29
SuperEngineerdon't care... it's free ["borrowed"] ;)17:29
SuperEngineersocial engineering is a wonferful thing when you help the landladty resolve her own wi-fi probs :D17:30
daftykinsi find it enough of a struggle to share a connection with myself17:31
SuperEngineerlolz17:31
daftykinsroll on xbox one supporting 360 games! then i'll never have to hear its' nasty power supply whine again :D17:32
* SuperEngineer sends daftykins virtual earmufflers to help in the meantime17:33
daftykinshehe, ah i just turn it off at the individually switched power strip \o/17:33
SuperEngineer[& suggests some air duster!]17:33
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popey_hmm21:38
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popey23:07 < Aciid> you forgot to paste the cleartext password22:20
popeyoops22:20
penguin42that would be a more fun oops if you had pasted the cleartext password22:21
popeytrue22:21
bashrcpassword123 :)22:23
popeyhunter222:25
zmoylan-pi1234,  must watch spaceballs again...22:31
popeyooh, good call22:31
popeywas looking for something to watch22:32
zmoylan-pimay the swartz be with you...22:32
popeybah, desktop just crapped the bed22:32
popey:( nouveau22:32
daftykins:(22:33
popeyalso, got a disk on the way out22:35
popeyrelatively new 4TB22:35
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11747951/22:35
popeycould be cable of course22:35
penguin42says Media error, much more likely to be the drive22:36
* daftykins 's ears prick up22:36
daftykinshow's the smartctl -a /dev/sdX look?22:36
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11747962/22:37
popeystarted a long test some hours ago22:37
popeyshould be finished by now22:37
daftykinsooh yeah 14 sectors found wonky22:38
popeythis isn't that old22:38
daftykinsdisks aren't what they used to be :(22:38
penguin42yeh and the error shown as Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x0b507e50 = 18982459222:38
popeyjanuary22:38
* popey looks into warranty22:38
daftykinshttps://westerndigital.secure.force.com/ind/?lang=en22:39
daftykinsthere y'are :)22:39
popeywat22:39
popeyno warranty22:39
penguin42how can you have no warranty?22:39
popeyit says it was sold to a system integrator22:40
daftykinsD:22:40
popeyI bought from amazon22:40
daftykinsuh oh that happens a lot lately from marketplace sellers22:40
daftykinsflogging on non-legit drives22:40
popeyno, amazon22:40
daftykinsoh?22:40
daftykinshow rude22:40
penguin42they should sort that for you unless it was sold as 2nd hand22:40
popeyWD22:41
popeyhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EHBERSE22:41
popeyluckily I bought 2 :)22:41
popeyso I have a spare I can put into service, but this is annoying because it's the D: of my windows partition22:41
popeyso has lots of stuff (including my entire steam collection) on it22:42
penguin42Wheresmy-Data22:42
popey"Warranty : 3 years"22:42
daftykinseh but that's all easily redownloadable22:42
popeysure, but the software installs are going to make windows go silly22:42
penguin42popey: Yeh, so as OEM that's Amazon's problem, return it to Amazon22:42
popeyright, will open a thing with them22:42
popeywonder if I could dd the entire thing and how much fun that would be22:44
daftykinsmaybe ddrescue22:44
penguin42well if you've got 4TB to put it on then, you should be able to with dd-rescue22:44
daftykinsit's gonna have a fit when it finds one of those currently unremapped 14 sectors22:44
* penguin42 bets it becomes more22:44
daftykins*nod*22:45
popeyI have another identical disk22:45
daftykinsif it were under 5 it could've maybe stayed the same, but 14...22:45
popeyI bought two the same day22:45
penguin42same batch?22:45
popeyprobably, identical drive22:46
penguin42see whether it fails at the same time as well then22:47
popeyits never been turned on22:47
daftykinsi got those nice ~£4 vouchers to add an extra year warranty to my WD Reds, which is neat22:47
popeywonder what amazon will do though, might want to try and dd the thing before i try rma22:49
popeyin fact if I hook it up I could leave it DDing overnight22:49
popey(hope I get the if= and of= round the right way)22:49
* popey will use ddrescue I think22:49
popeybetter stats etc22:49
daftykins:D22:49
daftykinsyeah that's gonna take a looooong while22:49
daftykinsthat 8 x 4TB RAID6 i have for someone on a 3ware card has been taking about 15-16 hrs to verify each week D:22:50
penguin42popey: Be a little careful; you'll end up with a partical copy with some junk in the bad places; you wont easily find that junk22:50
popeyhmm22:50
popeyi think i know where some of it is!22:50
popeyinside GTA5 :)22:50
daftykinsooh, been crashing on you?22:50
popeyI have had to re-download that a couple of times, which was probably the early sign22:50
daftykinsah ha22:50
popeyyeah, corrupted textures22:51
popeythen "please re-download"22:51
daftykinsthat's tedious22:51
zmoylan-pican't you just get it off a magazine cover floppy? :-)22:52
daftykinshehe22:53
zmoylan-pithat's where i got doom and lemmings... :-P22:53
daftykinsif people still bought those i wonder if they'd have to transition to flash drives :>22:53
zmoylan-pibluray discs and poor sods with dvd disc version...22:54
zmoylan-piyou could get all of wikipedia on a cover disc for offline emergencies...22:54
popeyon of these days I'll make a live usb stick, label it, and leave it somewhere sane22:56
popeyand not overwrite it22:56
zmoylan-pito quote big bang theory.  what happens if there's a disaster and there are no usb ports anymore?22:56
penguin42popey: or give them out to people?22:56
popeyooh the one I found has a full install on it22:57
popeynot a live cd22:57
popeyyay22:57
popeysweet, boot directly to desktop \o/22:57
popeythis one is a keeper!22:57
ali1234that's the problem with USB sticks23:03
ali1234you can't organise them23:03
ali1234because they are funny shapes23:03
popeythese ones have loops23:03
ali1234not like floppy disks that you can label and put in a box and they stay in order23:04
popeyso you can hang them round your neck or whatever23:04
popeytrue23:04
popeyI should just stick bluetak to the wall and organise them that way23:04
daftykins:D23:04
ali1234or magnets23:04
daftykinsmine live in the same zipped section in my laptop backpack23:04
daftykinsi took them out for a holiday once, but never again23:04
ali1234http://www.lakeland.co.uk/12481/Stellar-Magnetic-Knife-Rack?gclid=CjwKEAjwnpSsBRDH3pT2-7q55R4SJABRiNyT0XG4dY-OOaGS0jNKGiJ4plJC-zRXLPQW1MTsr89yJhoCaSbw_wcB&src=gfeed&s_kwcid=AL!49!3!66287827829!!!g!42886884744!&ef_id=U@AT9gAABfE2NTPp:20150620230453:s23:05
daftykinsthere's always someone that i end up fixing something for23:05
ali1234sorry about horrible URL, but get one of those23:05
ali1234shouldn't affect flash memory :)23:05
penguin42nice idea23:05
popeyyeah23:05
ali1234*i accept no responsibility if it actually does wipe your flash drives23:06
popeyddrescue running23:06
popey5MB/s23:07
daftykins:S23:07
penguin42http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html    well, the good thing is that there's now an official unicode character for a Unicorn face23:11
daftykins:)23:12
popeyPhew!23:14
popeyI can sleep well now23:14
daftykins^_^23:14
popeythats a comprehensive page23:14
ali1234trollface should be put in unicode23:15
daftykinsthe guy that came up with that earns a fair chunk of money 0o23:15
daftykinshis mum even drew it on the side of their house XD23:16
popeyright, bedlington23:19
penguin42go to bed, wake up and sweep the bits out from under the drive23:20
popeyheh23:21
daftykins:)23:23
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m0nkey_grr. why is there no way to export playlists from google music?23:32
m0nkey_I can see myself going through the entire list and making note of each one manually :/23:35
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ali1234m0nkey_: i just googled it23:47
ali1234it turns out that the android app stores playlists in a SQLite database23:48

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