[06:43] <inetpro> good morning everyone 
[07:02] <Kilos> morning all
[08:53] <mazal> Morning
[08:53] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[08:54] <mazal> Gaanit oom ?
[08:54] <Kilos> goed dankie, net koud, en jy?
[08:54] <mazal> Ok dankie , doen so bietjie maintenance en backup ens
[08:54] <Kilos> ah
[08:54] <mazal> Die rubbish os het dit nogals nodig :P
[08:55] <Kilos> lol
[08:55] <mazal> En wil my server verander , maar kort 'n HDD vir dit
[08:55] <Kilos> ai!
[08:55] <mazal> Wil archiving na server toe doen , maar su drive is te klein
[08:55] <mazal> KOrt 2TB oop spasie
[08:56] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:56] <mazal> Games vat baie data :P
[08:56] <Kilos> lol
[08:57] <mazal> Al die steam en Origin goete , is so 1tb net vir dit
[08:57] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:57] <mazal> Baie spyt ek dit gekry het , maar nou ja , nou het ek dit moet dit gebruik is betaal
[08:58] <Kilos> ai!
[08:58] <mazal> Ek het 2TB , moet dalk kyk en hom aan die gang kry op server
[08:58] <mazal> external
[08:58] <Kilos> dis n plan
[08:59] <mazal> Net krag soek vir hom
[09:00] <mazal> Laak aan die werk kom , van sit en staan kom niks gedaan en van sit en staan is le die beste
[09:00] <Kilos> haha
[13:07] <Kilos> mazal  jy nog steeds hier
[13:07] <Kilos> hi rusbus  
[13:07] <Kilos> afternoon superfly  
[13:13] <rusbus> Kilos o/
[13:13] <squish102> this is by far the most active # i'm on
[13:14] <Kilos> lol
[13:14] <squish102> or maybe it is just Kilos ;)
[13:14] <rusbus> excluding our naughty chan
[13:44] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:56] <MaNI> heh
[13:56] <Kilos> hi MaNI  
[13:56] <MaNI> hi
[13:57] <MaNI> my apologies for bringing squish102 here, it was never intentional :p
[13:57] <Kilos> lol
[13:57] <Kilos> he hasnt been naughty here
[13:57] <Kilos> he/she
[14:09] <MaNI> well just keep a close eye on him :p
[14:22] <Kilos> lol
[14:48] <Kilos> ohi inetpro  
[14:49] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[14:55]  * inetpro will probably be away to shed some load in a few minutes from now
[14:57] <inetpro> but before I go, what do you guys say about Jono's discussion about rebasing the Ubuntu phone on Android?
[14:58]  * inetpro agrees with the comment "to rebase everything on JAVA is 180 degrees opposite to the right thing to do"
[14:58] <Kilos> didnt read it
[14:58] <inetpro> bad idea!
[14:58] <inetpro> Kilos: http://www.jonobacon.org/2015/06/19/rebasing-ubuntu-on-android/
[14:58] <Kilos> read his other comments about the cc/kc thing
[15:00] <inetpro> it's not about to happen any time soon.. just a debate... something to think about
[15:00] <Kilos> reading it
[15:18] <Kilos> yeah
[15:18] <Kilos> but i dont like android even
[15:31] <inetpro> Kilos: Android is better than anything else 
[15:33] <inetpro> but we need something stable that is not based on java 
[15:34] <inetpro> ai tog! 
[15:34] <Kilos> lol
[15:34] <inetpro> another hour of loadshedding for me 
[15:34] <Kilos> ai!
[15:35] <Kilos> im watching stormers/brumbies
[15:35] <Kilos> no power cut for me
[15:35] <inetpro> seems if I just use the mobile on its own I stay connected here 
[15:36] <inetpro> but on edge 
[15:36] <Kilos> i dont want stuff thats tied so closely to google
[15:36] <inetpro> uh oh! 
[15:36] <inetpro> POWER ALERT 3: Load shedding changed from stage1 to stage 2 at 17:31 due to a further shortage of generation capacity
[15:36] <Kilos> uh oh
[15:40] <inetpro> Kilos: what's the score? 
[15:40] <Kilos> we 17/3 behind
[15:40] <Kilos> sigh
[15:41] <Kilos> dont waste money on thermal underwear, it dont work
[15:44] <inetpro> Kilos: eish!
[16:10] <inetpro> yay!
[16:10]  * inetpro has light again
[16:14] <MaNI> that was an odd one, got cut off at about 5:40 and then back on at 18:10
[16:15] <squish102> MaNI: at least i run a couple ubuntu servers :P
[16:15] <squish102> more than you can say
[16:15] <squish102> i think you a little lost
[16:16] <MaNI> I have at least two ubuntu machines somewhere around, even if I don't like them much :p
[16:16] <squish102> Kilos: i'm always well behaved btw. don't worry
[16:16] <squish102> i think it is MaNI you should keep an eye on
[16:16] <squish102> !google is gentoo still around?
[16:17] <squish102> i wonder if ubuntu will run on the $9 computer
[16:18] <squish102> if i ever get it, i'll try
[16:35] <inetpro> uh oh!
[16:35] <inetpro> Kilos: you still here?
[16:36] <inetpro> loadshedding now on stage 3 
[16:36] <Kilos> ai!
[16:36] <Kilos> oh my
[16:36] <inetpro> looks like Kameeldrift is to be affected by that
[16:36] <inetpro> just announced on Twitter
[16:37] <Kilos> ty
[16:37] <Kilos> 34/19
[16:37] <Kilos> we sukkeling
[16:37]  * inetpro listening on Radio
[16:38] <inetpro> was really hoping that the stormers would win this
[16:38] <Kilos> yeah last chance for za
[16:38] <Kilos> only chance actually
[16:39] <Kilos> and its getting weaker all the time
[16:40] <inetpro> eish! and it looks like we will have another round of loadshedding at 20:00 here
[16:48] <Kilos> oh my
[16:52] <inetpro> ok, looks like we're back to stage 2 again
[16:55] <MaNI> wonder which plant broke now, wish we actually got info on whats going on
[16:56] <Kilos> sigh
[16:56] <inetpro> MaNI: I agree, we really need much more tranparency 
[16:57] <Kilos> complain
[16:57] <Kilos> you guys know what to say
[16:58] <MaNI> lack of info makes it look a lot more like an enron thing
[16:59] <squish102> what is the highest level of load shedding?
[17:00] <squish102> stage 4 = 2 week blackout?
[17:00] <inetpro> squish102: at this point it's only stage 1, 2 or 3
[17:00] <Kilos> they said something about stage 4 which would be up to 6 hours at a time
[17:05] <MaNI> stage 5 = gird collapses and then nobody knows how long it actually takes to come back up
[17:05] <MaNI> stage 6 = eskom comes and takes your candles
[17:05] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:08] <MaNI> if grid actually goes down nobody knows what will happen, its happened to other countries before but usually they lend supply from neighbors to reboot it after repairs
[17:09] <MaNI> given the size of our grid in comparison to our neighbors we can't really do the same, so it would be a new test case, there are lots of theories but it's just theories
[17:11] <inetpro> squish102: @Eskom_SA Load shedding stages have been amended to create less impact for electricity consumers.  - 12:55 PM - 17 Jun 2015
[17:11] <inetpro> https://twitter.com/Eskom_SA/status/611124925940809728
[17:27] <squish102> i wonder how long you can survive with no power?
[17:28] <squish102> run out of petrol and water would suck
[17:29] <Kilos> we have to pump our water from a borehole
[17:30] <Kilos> and the 5000litre tank sprang a leak 3 days ago
[17:30] <Kilos> so could be exciting
[17:31] <smile> hi :)
[17:31] <Kilos> hi smile  
[17:31] <smile> hi! :D
[17:31] <smile> gremble is not here :(
[17:31] <Kilos> maybe loadshedding
[17:44] <Cryterion> They're in stage 2 atm
[17:49] <Kilos> well if i go off, night everyone, sleep tight
[17:49] <mazal> Nag oom
[17:49] <Kilos> i just made a hotwater bottel so im good for bed
[17:50] <smile> Kilos: maybe :o
[17:52] <MaNI> squish102, I imagine we could make do without power 'indefinitely' its the collapse of the food infastructure etc. as a result that would be the issue
[17:53] <MaNI> I guess the US will drop us food parcels or something :p
[17:54] <Kilos> lol
[18:27] <Cryterion> Nah doubt the US would as we're a part of BRICS
[18:44] <MaNI> well india have a few million packets of lead contaminated noodles they need to get rid of :/
[18:45] <MaNI> so they can drop us noodles and china can drop us poisoned milk
[18:45] <MaNI> brics for the win
[18:52] <Cryterion> Lol, we just might be able to trade some uranium for it
[18:54] <smile> bye :p
[19:11] <squish102> power would not be out indefinitely, but probably 2 weeks before they start kickstarting them up again
[19:12] <squish102> just thinking 2 weeks of no power what would go first... water run out?
[19:31] <MaNI> run out probably not, not get pumped to some areas, probably
[19:31] <MaNI> where do you get the 2 week figure from?
[20:29] <smile> Hi
[20:29] <smile> :)
[20:42] <smile> :-D
[21:29] <smile> Slaapwel :)