[00:00] <ubuntu784> Bashing-om: Yeah grub legacy, heh, yee old grub. ;)
[00:00] <whitehead> can any1 help me ?
[00:00] <whitehead> its showing up under devices, but not in file manager
[00:00] <ubuntu784> whitehead: Does it show in windows, you had it originally?
[00:00] <whitehead> i mean disks*
[00:00] <whitehead> no
[00:00] <whitehead> i just got my new laptop
[00:00] <whitehead> it had free dos
[00:00] <whitehead> wich i uninstalled
[00:01] <ubuntu784> whitehead: Install gparted open it and see if it shows and has a file syatem still, or pastebin sudo parted -l
[00:01] <whitehead> ok sec
[00:02] <Bashing-om> whitehead: Let's look at the hard drive from terminal / In a pastebin show ' sudo fdisk -lu ; sudo blkid ' .
[00:02] <ubuntu784> whitehead: I know nothing about freedos, just helps to see some commands.
[00:03] <whitehead> http://imgur.com/dgszTjK
[00:03] <ubuntu784> nambiz: Do not contact me except through channel.
[00:05] <whitehead> http://pastebin.com/G9zNtPjn
[00:06] <whitehead> http://pastebin.com/CN6bn16g
[00:10] <Bashing-om> whitehead: Out of my sphere of experience, Logical Volume Management; BUT, I do not see how sdb that has no Physical Volumes, can relate to sda that does .
[00:12] <whitehead> I dont really know about physical and logical volumes and ubuntu :/
[00:13] <whitehead> what i mean is i'm a noob
[00:13] <Bashing-om> !LVM | whitehead
[00:17] <guest__> hello
[00:18] <guest__> how many ppl are acutally here?
[00:18] <JinjaNinja> The world may never know.
[00:19] <guest__> lel
[00:19] <guest__> i got no probs 4 now so cya ppl
[00:21] <JinjaNinja> When I connect Ardour to jack, Ardour automatically chooses my internal computer microphone. It doesn't let me choose my USB Audio interface. Any help?
[00:21] <whitehead> I'm reading  on howto lvm but what specifically do i need to look at ?
[00:23] <ubuntu784> whitehead: If it were me I would get used to getting a good basic install, and than research the next steps. Help is nice but what you learn yourself is more likely to be remembered, than a to much info all at one. ;)
[00:23] <Bashing-om> whitehead: Again, O have no experience with LVM .. but what you are looking for and want to do is mount the LVM partition that is on the sda drive from the booted sdb drive .
[00:28] <MACscr> what does ubuntu 14.04 now use for starting/stoping services? Im using a third party python3 based script and id like to be able to automatically start it on boot and also start/stop it with the service command. I think i would have to simply kill the process and start it again to actually restart, etc
[00:29] <JinjaNinja> When I connect Ardour to jack, Ardour automatically chooses my internal computer microphone. It doesn't let me choose my USB Audio interface.
[00:31] <Bashing-om> !upstart | MACscr
[00:36] <wolftune> just got an SSD, need to move my system from old (possibly failing) hard drive… I made partitions for / /home /tmp /opt … should I just partition the SSD comparably first?
[00:36] <darthanubis> first thing is a backup
[00:37] <wolftune> darthanubis: oh, I backed up on my original external drive already
[00:37] <wolftune> that I've been using for backup
[00:38] <darthanubis> create your partitions, install the OS and off ye go!
[00:38] <darthanubis> cheers!
[00:38] <wolftune> darthanubis: you think I should do an *install* rather than just do a 1:1 clone of the current drive?
[00:38] <darthanubis> that's up to you
[00:38] <darthanubis> I like clean
[00:39] <biffbaxter> go clean
[00:39] <wolftune> I like clean too, but I'm not really trying to get perfectly clean in this case, I just want my system to work again (it's had intermittent loss of connection to the internal drive)
[00:40] <wolftune> and I'm hoping the new drive will fix it (otherwise, it's some other cable or connection…)
[00:40] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: is the SSD smaller than the original drive?
[00:40] <darthanubis> all the more reason to go clean
[00:40] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Keep in mind if you clone, you must track down and correct the the differing UUIDs .
[00:40] <zerowaitstate> Bashing-om: ^^
[00:40] <darthanubis> all of the above madness must be sorted
[00:40] <ubuntu784> +1
[00:40] <biffbaxter> I would just carve up the drive with the installer and be done
[00:40] <darthanubis> tup
[00:40] <darthanubis> yup
[00:41] <wolftune> I don't *terribly* mind doing the UUID things I guess… but I see the advantage to clean
[00:41] <wolftune> I do have saved export of my custom-added repos, and my installed packages
[00:41] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: if you have that, I would definitely reinstall clean. If you don't like it, you can always go back to your backup
[00:42] <wolftune> well, my backup is my /home stuff, not a 1:1 clone…
[00:42] <biffbaxter> i always install clean ...i find that I remove a lot of kruft I forgot I installed and never needed or used really but impulsively installed for some reason at 3am for fun
[00:42] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: well, then you have no choice :)
[00:42] <Bashing-om> wolftune: The major UUID differences will exist on " /etc/fstab " and " /boot/grub/grub.cfg ".
[00:43] <psusi> wolftune, there's no real reason for /tmp and opt partitions
[00:43] <wolftune> zerowaitstate: well, I have 3 drives, the backup of /home one, current problematic internal, and new SSD
[00:43] <wolftune> psusi: no?
[00:43] <psusi> nope... unless you enjoy wasting disk space
[00:43] <wolftune> at one point, I got into doing separate partitions more… not sure what's best now
[00:44] <wolftune> my current (problematic) drive is a dual thing with 25GB SSD part and 500GB traditional
[00:44] <zerowaitstate> on servers /tmp volumes are useful for keeping tmp files from getting too large on a critical server that stays out of sight most of the time. it's a waste on a desktop
[00:44] <wolftune> I set it so the 25GB part was /
[00:44] <ubuntu784> many just do a home, which can be seperated at any time
[00:44] <psusi> fyi, if you were using LVM instead of conventional partitions, moving your system is pretty easy... can even be done while you are using it
[00:44] <wolftune> but now moving to a plain 250GB SSD
[00:45] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: my advice is don't use partitions, use lvm if you want separate volumes
[00:45] <RonWhoCares> how do I install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/pgadmin3
[00:45] <wolftune> well, I do like being able to store large media files separately from /home
[00:45]  * TJ- advises LVM too ... you can even mirror Logical Volumes across different Physical Volumes then
[00:45] <psusi> it's one drive that.. shows up as two?  how very odd... I got an SSHD to beta test a while back... the flash part is just transparent and automatic
[00:46] <neldogz> Anyone know if there is a replacements to the screenlets package for Ubuntu 15?
[00:46] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: the nice thing about logical volumes is you can move them to different disks fairly easily (except for the root volume, of course)
[00:46] <psusi> then why not just leave /home on your root partition and keep your media separate?  instead of 3 different places?
[00:46] <psusi> zerowaitstate, moving the root is no different... when I got an ssd I just pvmove'd my running root over in the background while I continued to work
[00:47] <wolftune> lvm = Linux Virtual Machine?
[00:47] <psusi> lvm = logical volume manager
[00:48] <wolftune> I've never used logical volume manager… that's new to me
[00:48] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: LVM, love it
[00:48] <Bashing-om> !lvm | wolftune
[00:48] <psusi> it's pretty nifty.. might have a read of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[00:48] <wolftune> lvm makes sense even for a plain user on a laptop?
[00:48] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: yup
[00:48] <psusi> it can
[00:49] <wolftune> is it hard to get comfortable with or no? I'm not a real power user…
[00:49] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: there's not a lot of downside to it. Performance impact is minimal if you aren't doing stuff that's really crazy
[00:49] <psusi> it's most useful if you sometimes like to change disks, or resize partitions, or create new partitions to test out other or beta systems
[00:50] <TJ-> wolftune: LVM is a series of containers ... Physical Volume (PV) == real disks/partitions, Volume Groups (VG) == collection of ... Logical Volumes (LV) == a block device (usually containing a file-system) that you might think of as the equivalent of a disk partition.
[00:50] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: when you install ubuntu, it actually asks you if you want to set up LVM. It creates the initial stuff for you, but gives you the ability to customize it
[00:50] <wolftune> I don't know that I want to do those things, but I know that inability to easily swap stuff makes me hesitate…
[00:50] <psusi> and it's also handy for making backups... you can take a snapshot of a volume that freezes it in time, then back that up while yuo continue to make changes to the original volume
[00:50] <wolftune> zerowaitstate: is that asking about lvm something newish?
[00:51] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: not really; i've seen it for several years at least
[00:51]  * wolftune uses BackInTime currently
[00:51] <zerowaitstate> wolftune: it's actually part of the debian install process, which ubuntu inherits
[00:51] <codepython777> does anyone run amd radeon r9 on ubuntu?
[00:51] <codepython777> is nvidia vs amd an issue on ubuntu?
[00:51] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: lol you just stepped in it
[00:51] <psusi> the default configuration for lvm is silly though: it just allocates all of the space to a root volume, leaving you with no room to add new volumes or snapshots
[00:52] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: AMD has *issues* with drivers on Linux depending on card
[00:52] <TJ-> wolftune: One of the many great benefits of LVM is you don't have to allocate all the available storage to LVs (file-systems) immediately, so the VG can contain free 'extents' which can be used to extent the size of existing LVs (or create new LVs) on the fly. I usually keep at least 25% of space free to begin with and use it if LVs fill up
[00:52] <psusi> better to leave some space unallocated so you can do things with it later... including expand an existing volume instantly while it is online
[00:52] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: AMD's open source drivers don't keep up with their hardware, and their closed source drivers are crap
[00:52] <codepython777> zerowaitstate:  I thought this had changed recently?
[00:53] <Bashing-om> codepython777: see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244700 ; solution see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2278589 .
[00:53] <psusi> zerowaitstate, I've not had any trouble with the open source drivers for years
[00:53] <zerowaitstate> psusi: I run multimonitor setups and spend about 3 hours getting drivers to work on every machine I have to set up
[00:53] <psusi> ahh... multiple monitors... never really cared for that
[00:54] <zerowaitstate> psusi: this is with a fairly common AMD card in a Lenovo desktop
[00:54] <zerowaitstate> psusi: unfortunately, I need multimonitor to work. Can't afford 50' monitors
[00:55] <TJ-> zerowaitstate: that's interesting; what problems does it cause (I also use multi-monitor with Nvida and have been considering an AMD/ATI GPU)
[00:55] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: AMD keeps up with kernel updates for slower updating distro's like RedHat, just fine. However, ubuntu tries to stay on the bleeding edge of kernel versions, and AMD can't keep up
[00:56] <psusi> one of the more recent additions to lvm is the thin volumes.. you can dedicate say, 50gb of disk space and then create 3 different 50gb logical volumes using that space, and install different OSes in them and run them in virtual machines, and each thinks it has 50gb to play with but as long as it is only using 1/3 of that, you don't run out of your 50gb total
[00:56] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: the driver rejecting the card; saying its not valid because it doesn't recognize the PCI ID
[00:56] <psusi> zerowaitstate, more like redhat likes to hang 3-5 years back ;)
[00:56] <TJ-> zerowaitstate: ouch! Do you use mainline kernels or Ubuntu kernels?
[00:56] <zerowaitstate> psusi: no arguments there, but everyone thinks they have to follow suit, which is stupid
[00:57] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: ubuntu kernels
[00:57] <zerowaitstate> psusi: usually, there is a way to work around it by turning the validation off, but it's a pain
[00:57] <TJ-> zerowaitstate: I tend to use mainline kernels so I'd probably suffer more if AMD are behind the curve somewhat
[00:58] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: it's not a problem related just to AMD, other folks like VMWare have similar issues
[00:59] <TJ-> zerowaitstate: glad to know about this, because I push the system hard. Laptop + 2x external GPUs, currently Nvidia driving 6 monitors
[00:59] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: If it works, don't #()*@ with it
[01:00] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: my 2 cents
[01:00] <TJ-> zerowaitstate: I have to  #()*@ with it, as you put it, otherwise I'd have nothing to bisect :)
[01:01] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: ah. well best of luck to you. I highly recommend sticking with the open source drivers if at all possible
[01:02] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: those, at least, are fixable
[01:02] <Dusti[n]> hey everyone got a problem aa-notify keeps eating up ram as soon as i start the desktop. anyone seen this before and what should i do?
[01:03] <codepython777> zerowaitstate: how is nvidia doing?
[01:04] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: no idea. Linus got into with them a few years back and they started cooperating more. I haven't used them myself but have heard good things
[01:04] <grinchier> Dusti[n]: i use apparmor but I don't know what aa-notify is
[01:05] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: Nvidia still has binary blobs in the drivers, from what I understand.
[01:06] <codepython777> zerowaitstate: and amd cant update drivers - what do i buy? :)
[01:06] <codepython777> intel ? :)
[01:06] <sudormrf> is facebook chat in empathy still broken?
[01:06] <Dusti[n]> hum yeah i tried to remove it and for whatever reason its still there
[01:06] <zerowaitstate> www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
[01:06] <Dusti[n]> im going to give it another try and see
[01:06] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: I have an Intel Haswell on my laptop and it has never given me a problem
[01:06] <codepython777> zerowaitstate: my desktop came with intel 4600
[01:07] <codepython777> need to buy a hdmi to dvi dual link and try if it can run a 30" monitor
[01:07] <codepython777> not sure
[01:07] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: but I don't do heavy stuff with it
[01:08] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: an explanation of why Nvidia binary blobs may actually work better than the AMD driver approach, at least for now: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/06/nvidia-addresses-linus-torvalds-fuck-you-nvidia-remark/
[01:09] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: so basically 90% of their code is the same across OS's, so they can roll out new GPU support immediately without having to worry about side effects of changes in various kernel versions
[01:09] <grinchier> Dusti[n]: ya I don't think i have that installed
[01:10] <TJ-> I've used nvidia for the last 10 years on my primary laptops and never had any performance issues. I sometimes have to patch the kernel wedge source to build against mainline kernels until nvidia catch up, but I'm using/testing mainline release-candidate kernels so that is expected.
[01:10] <Dusti[n]> grinchier: thanks
[01:11] <zorlac> hello need help unuderstanding a bash code
[01:11] <zorlac> what does bash -i >&
[01:11] <zorlac> bash -i >&
[01:11] <zorlac> never seen those characters used like that. any help
[01:12] <codepython777> zerowaitstate: i was hoping AMD would catch up with drivers, and we wont need nvidia anymore
[01:12] <TJ-> zorlac: ">&" redirects stdout and stderr
[01:13] <zorlac> TJ: thanks
[01:13] <TJ-> zorlac "man bash" then "/^REDIRECTION" will explain it far better
[01:14] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: kernel's just moving too fast development wise. It has both good and bad parts
[01:14] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: I expect things to settle down once wayland is done
[01:14] <al2o3-cr> zorlac: 0 = stdin, 1 = stdout, 2 = stderr
[01:14] <zerowaitstate> codepython777: at least for graphics.
[01:15] <al2o3-cr> so 2>&1 will redirect stderr to stdout
[01:16] <zorlac> and what about 0>&1
[01:16] <zorlac> i usually use > or >> to put output to file
[01:17] <al2o3-cr> > mean write from 0 >> means append
[01:17] <whitehead> Can some one help me i don't have my hdd under devices i tried mounting it but i can only see swap active on it
[01:17] <zorlac> i under stand the >
[01:18] <whitehead> i installed ubuntu on ssd
[01:18] <zerowaitstate> whitehead: what does lsblk show you
[01:19] <al2o3-cr> zorlac: > means redirect to a file name >&name means redirect to a file descriptor
[01:20] <whitehead> zerowaistate: http://pastebin.com/hYChXz0F
[01:22] <zerowaitstate> whitehead: sudo vgdisplay
[01:23] <wolftune> okay, I'm convinced that Lvm is the way to go
[01:23] <psusi> whitehead, you'll have to be more specific... i.e. tried mounting it how? only "see" how?
[01:23] <zorlac> ok thank you all for your help.
[01:23] <whitehead> https://quonn.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/how-to-mount-lvm-partition-on-ubuntu/
[01:23] <zorlac> oh what about this command  5<>
[01:23] <whitehead> reading from this guide
[01:24] <al2o3-cr> zorlac: in what context?
[01:24] <zerowaitstate> whitehead: ah, lol
[01:25] <zerowaitstate> whitehead: I think the way you allocated stuff is mess up
[01:26] <zorlac> well. a friend and i have been getting our hom epc's to connect back to our ofice computers, few things the office firewall wont let up do
[01:26] <zerowaitstate> whitehead: your root partition is sitting on /dev/sdb2 and has 14G of space
[01:26] <wolftune> ok, so *if* go ahead and do a clean install for the new SSD, what's the process by which I can most smoothly look at a list of all the packages I had installed before (I have that list already) and choose to include or not each of them (selecting only the manually installed, not the ones that were just installed as dependencies)?
[01:32] <wolftune> if I really don't feel I can or should spare the time to hand-select what to install or not, can I still use Lvm with my new SSD and clone the files from my existing partitions on my old drive?
[01:32] <zerowaitstate> yeah; rsync should be able to do that
[01:36] <zerowaitstate> i am reading postgresql docs and I can't believe I've been using mysql all this time
[01:36] <zerowaitstate> literally every gripe I have about mysql is answered
[01:37] <TJ-> zerowaitstate: It is a rather hidden gem :)
[01:37] <whitehead> How can i use my hdd ?
[01:37] <whitehead> http://i.imgur.com/0dKtkn8.png
[01:38] <zerowaitstate> TJ-: my office mate obsesses about mysql because he's a php guy, so that's all we ever get to use. I never touch PHP, and coming from mssql, I frankly can't stand mysql
[01:43] <zerowaitstate> whitehead: volumes sit on volume groups. volumes groups sit on physical volumes. you have a single volume group, called ubuntu-vg. it owns one physical volume, which is the 3rd partition of sda. you need to create a new logical volume in ubuntu-vg to hold your actual files. lvcreate will handle that
[01:43] <zerowaitstate> whitehead: currently, ubuntu-vg has one logical volume already, but that is being used for swap. you have plenty of space in the vg to create a new lv, though
[01:45] <rypervenche> zerowaitstate: I use Postgres whenever I can :) Or MariaDB if I can't.
[01:51] <psusi> whitehead, yes, you can just copy all of the files from your existing system to a new one, then install grub on the new drive, and you're good to go
[01:53] <psusi> whitehead, boot your existing drive first, press 'e' to edit the menu, and change the root= argument on the linux line to point to the new root volume to boot it... then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure to reinstall grub to the new drive and you can then shutdown and remove the old one
[01:53] <psusi> also change the /etc/fstab on the new drive to match the new configuration
[01:54] <whitehead> okay, how do i boot a drive ?
[01:55] <psusi> just boot your system normally, and then use the 'e' key to edit the menu and set it to boot from the new drive... install grub on the new drive, then remove the original drive and your bios should boot the new drive since the old one isnt there any more.. or you can go into your bios configuration and tell it what drive to boot from
[01:56] <psusi> this is assuming you aren't using UEFI, which is a bit different
[01:56] <whitehead> i used uefi to usb boot
[01:56] <whitehead> but its not 1st boot
[01:56] <whitehead> in bios
[01:57] <whitehead> im using ubuntu not longer than 24 hrs, which menu will the e key open ?
[01:58] <whitehead> does the new drive refer to ssd ?
[01:58] <psusi> if the new drive you are moving to is an ssd, then yes
[01:59] <whitehead> the ubuntu is installed on the ssd
[01:59] <whitehead> so im guessing the hdd is the new drive ?
[01:59] <psusi> 'e' lets you edit the menu in grub... right now it is configured to tell linux to use some partition on the old drive as your root fs
[01:59] <psusi> after copying the files to the new partition on the new drive, you need to point it there to boot from the new drive
[02:00] <psusi> I thought you already had an hdd and were moving to an ssd?
[02:00] <whitehead> i have both sdd and hdd
[02:01] <psusi> after booting from the new drive once, you can then use dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc to install grub to the new drive so it will boot without the old drive, and run update-grub to change /boot/grub/grub.cfg to already point to the new drive so you don't have to do any more boot time editing
[02:02] <whitehead> im not sure that i understand everything but ill go try
[02:02] <whitehead> wish me luck
[02:02] <psusi> well, wait
[02:02] <psusi> what don't you understand?
[02:03] <whitehead> is that action going to replace ubuntu from the sdd to the hdd
[02:03] <psusi> right now you have drive A that has grub installed so it can boot grub, then grub is configured to boot linux and tell it to mount your root partition... after copying all of your files to the new drive, you want that drive to have grub installed, and be configured to boot linux using the *new* root partition
[02:03] <psusi> so you can then remove your old drive
[02:04] <whitehead> but why do i wanna remove the old drive ?
[02:04] <psusi> you want to keep it and use it for... what?
[02:04] <whitehead> ugh im such a tool :/
[02:04] <psusi> certainly you don't want to still boot from the old drive right?
[02:04] <whitehead> idk i just want to be able to use my 1tb hdd
[02:04] <psusi> use it for what?
[02:05] <whitehead> anything
[02:05] <whitehead> its not accessible atm
[02:05] <psusi> do you want to move your system to a new drive, or just store files on the new drive?
[02:05] <whitehead> in file mngr
[02:05] <psusi> I thought you wanted to move
[02:05] <whitehead> i wanna make the hdd lvm type and visible in file mngr so i can put stuff in it
[02:06] <psusi> where do you want to mount it?
[02:06] <psusi> just some data volume in /media?
[02:06] <whitehead> i guess
[02:06] <whitehead> idk
[02:06] <psusi> then just format it and it should show up in file manager and you can open it and store files on it
[02:07] <notfly> hi guys i wanna recover a root password on a machine running an older version of Ubuntu. I go to recovery mode and press drop to root shell but it asks me for root password. wat do
[02:07] <psusi> and continue to boot your system as it is now on the old drive
[02:07] <whitehead> thers some stuff in it
[02:07] <whitehead> ill give u a screenshoot
[02:07] <zerowaitstate> wat do
[02:07] <zerowaitstate> i love it
[02:08] <psusi> notfly, apparently you had set a root password.. you shouldn't do that... you can get around it by pressing 'e' at the grub menu to edit the commands, and on the linux line, add "init=/bin/sh" and when the kernel boots you will be at a root shell
[02:08] <notfly> thanks man, I'll give it a shot
[02:08] <kjgtre> notfly: You sure thijs is not a user password, there is no root PW unless made
[02:08] <notfly> brb
[02:08] <psusi> notfly, where you can do mount-o remount,rw / to remount the disk read/write, then run passwd to change the root password
[02:09] <whitehead> http://imgur.com/PbdIA14
[02:09] <whitehead> is it safe to format it ?
[02:09] <psusi> whitehead, that doesn't really tell me much
[02:09] <whitehead> hmm
[02:10] <whitehead> idk if sda1 is somthing related to system
[02:10] <psusi> wife says it's bed time... night...
[02:10] <EtaleCoh> Hi all! I have an Ubuntu, and I just bought a WD "My Passport Ultra" external hard drive. When I try mounting it via "nautilus" it says: "Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library."
[02:10] <whitehead> oh well
[02:10] <whitehead> night..
[02:14] <zerowaitstate> EtaleCoh: check this out: http://adamdekroon.com/2014/12/debian-post-installation-issue-unprivileged-user-can-not-mount-ntfs-block-devices-using-the-external-fuse-library/
[02:15] <zerowaitstate> EtaleCoh: apparently some install process or other may have left junk in the fstab that shouldn't be there
[02:15] <EtaleCoh> Thanks, zerowaitstate. Trying this now.
[02:15] <zerowaitstate> EtaleCoh: of course, I recommend making a backup of fstab before making changes
[02:16] <EtaleCoh> BTW, zerowaitstate, is there a way of alerting linux to the new fstab without rebooting?
[02:16] <zerowaitstate> EtaleCoh: fstab is read any time you attempt to mount a volume
[02:16] <EtaleCoh> Oh okay.
[02:16] <zerowaitstate> EtaleCoh: you don't need to reboot unless you changed the root partition line
[02:19] <EtaleCoh> So, zerowaitstate, I actually have a bunch of lines like that because I added them myself about a year ago. Is there a way to do it that isn't deleting the whole line, but rather adjusting the right property correctly?
[02:19] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: Termimal command ' sudo mount -a ' will inplace verify the /fstab file .
[02:20] <EtaleCoh> None of my lines are for sbd anything.
[02:20] <EtaleCoh> Just sdd1, sdc1, sdd and sdb.
[02:21] <EtaleCoh> Wait, never mine. I'm dyslexic.
[02:21] <EtaleCoh> Oh, no I'm not. It's just a typo on the website.
[02:22] <EtaleCoh> Mmm... So is there a way to solve this without really *deleting* that line?
[02:22] <zerowaitstate> add the "user" option to the volume
[02:23] <zerowaitstate> the options are right after the filesystem type in fstab
[02:24] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: Have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604251 <-HOWTO: Mount NTFS partitions with specific ownership/permissions ??
[02:26] <EtaleCoh> Here is my current fstab: http://pastebin.com/j4jXkEQq
[02:29] <Robr3rd> This is not strictly related to Ubuntu, but I'm unsure of where else would be most appropriate... For as long as I can remember I've had port 3000 forwarded to my computer successfully, yet now I can no longer access it over my local network despite no changes to my router...
[02:29] <cfhowlett> Robr3rd, #networking would know
[02:30] <Robr3rd> cfhowlett, Thanks
[02:30] <cfhowlett> Robr3rd, happy2help!
[02:31] <god_phantom> What's a good way to get started learning openstack?  Can I virtualize an openstack environment?
[02:31] <cfhowlett> !openstack | god_phantom
[02:32] <cfhowlett> god_phantom, openstack.org     or   http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/ubuntu-openstack
[02:35] <Pifa> hello
[02:35] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: Is there a reason you choose not to use the defaults for mounting the NTFS partitions ?? as " ntfs  defaults,umask=222  0 0 "
[02:35] <Pifa> anyone good with dovecot config?
[02:41] <EtaleCoh> Bashing-om: probably not. As can be easily discerned I'm only pretending to understand linux.
[02:42] <EtaleCoh> What would you change in which line, Bashing-om?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: We are all at some point in learning linux. Not to know is not a sin. Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions . a real good guide : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983336 . No one can tell you how to use your system . NTFS mounting is your preference.
[02:50] <EtaleCoh> So.. I added this line: UUID=F474B7AA74B76DCC /media/passport ntfs-3g defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000 0 0
[02:50] <EtaleCoh> This works, but now I can only mount it as root...
[02:51] <Dresk> So what's the real proper way to set the number of files a user is allowed to have open?  Does it involve /etc/sysctl.conf , /etc/security/limits.conf and /etc/pam.d/common-session
[02:53] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: Yeah, root is uid=1000. That may be how you want to restrict access .
[02:54] <EtaleCoh> Oh. Then how do I make it not only root, Bashing-om?
[02:56] <al2o3-cr> Dresk: ulimit -n <num> ?
[02:56] <Dresk> al2o3-cr: Apparently that's deprecated
[02:57] <al2o3-cr> since when?
[03:05] <crazyhorse18> i have a directory /media/gsav which is   gsav:fileshares  chmod 710.. i have a user tom who is a member of fileshares
[03:05] <crazyhorse18> tom can't navigate to the /media/gsav directory.. he gets permission denied.. why is this?
[03:08] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: O am back ;:uid=#### specifies which userid should own the files on the partition. e.g. "uid=1000" means that the user with the id "1000" should own the files. You can find out your UID by opening a terminal and running "echo $UID"
[03:10] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: Yjhat output should reflect 'yiu" as 1000, now what are the permissions on the mount point ? ' ls -al /media/passport ' ??
[03:11] <Bashing-om> yiu/you*
[03:13] <EtaleCoh> Baby needs taking care of. Will respond when I can.
[03:17] <major_majors> i'm in the middle of an Ubuntu server install. i've set up a software RAID 10 with 3 LVM volumes on top: /, /home, and swap. now i'm at the stage where it's asking me where i'd like to install GRUB and i'm lost.
[03:17] <major_majors> so, i need to know where GRUB needs to go in this configuration
[03:18] <cfhowlett> !server | major_majors server channel would know
[03:18] <major_majors> cfhowlett: thanks
[03:18] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[03:18] <darkangel> lol
[03:21] <darkangel> Its been a while since I've been here, Whats Excess Flood mean?
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> darkangel: http://www.ircbeginner.com/opvinfo/h-quits-info.html
[03:31] <MrJoestar> The reset command is not working here. How can I solve this? I'm using Ubuntu 14.04. Thanks.
[03:31] <cfhowlett> MrJoestar, WHAT "reset" command do you refer to???
[03:31] <svetlana> what command, and what do you expect it to do?
[03:31] <MrJoestar> When I type "reset" and press enter, it simply does nothing.
[03:32] <MrJoestar> in the terminal
[03:32] <svetlana> what should it do though?
[03:32] <MrJoestar> I was expecting it to clean the text
[03:32] <svetlana> try 'clear'
[03:32] <darkangel> Oh ok thanks alot for the link lotuspsychje
[03:33] <MrJoestar> When I use 'clear', I can still see the text if I scroll up
[03:33] <MCSH> That's normal
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> MrJoestar: clean your system with bleachbit perhaps
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | MrJoestar
[03:34] <MrJoestar> The ideia is to clean all the text in the terminal without closing it and opening again.
[03:35] <notaeon> MrJoestar: you want to clear your bash history?
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> MrJoestar: like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/191999/how-to-clear-bash-history-completely
[03:36] <rebs> MrJoestar, just use reset instead
[03:36] <MrJoestar> I finally found an answer, I was looking for this http://superuser.com/questions/299903/clear-terminal-using-keyboard-shortcut
[03:36] <MrJoestar> Anyway, thanks guys
[03:41] <crazyhorse18> how can i run a command as another user?
[03:41] <crazyhorse18> as a system user which doesn't have a password
[03:41] <jimcornette> su user && command
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> crazyhorse18: or with Sux
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> crazyhorse18: problem is sux is removed from repos now
[03:41] <crazyhorse18> su only works if you know that users password
[03:42] <jimcornette> echo "passwd" | sudo -S su user && command
[03:42] <jimcornette> 'but I thought that you said there was no passwd
[03:42] <crazyhorse18> there isint'
[03:43] <jimcornette> then...   su - user &&  command
[03:43] <jimcornette> er su user && command
[03:43] <crazyhorse18>  sudo -H -u tom bash -c 'echo "I am $USER with uid $UID"'
[03:43] <crazyhorse18> ah this works
[03:43] <linuxmint> Ok, I have made some progress in diagnosing the sound issue.
[03:43] <linuxmint> 1. This is how I make the sound work initially:
[03:43] <linuxmint> Install Linux Mint 17.1 MATE 64-bit > Driver Manager > select Nvidia (recommended) radio button > Apply Changes > Sound Preferences > Output > select HDMI radio button.
[03:43] <jimcornette> dont forget to exit back to the user.
[03:43] <linuxmint> 2. The sound stops after the 1st reboot on Linux Mint 17.1 MATE 64-bit.
[03:43] <linuxmint> After the 1st reboot, Sound Preferences > Output > Built-in Audio Analogue Stereo radio button is selected (changed from my correct selection of Built-in Audio Analogue Stereo radio button).
[03:43] <linuxmint> 3. Once sound has stopped, I can make sound work with this command$ speaker-test -c2 -twav -Dhdmi:NVidia,1
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> !mint | linuxmint
[03:44] <cfhowlett> linuxmint, wrong channel.  ask #linuxmint
[03:44] <jimcornette> crazyhorse18, seems like there is a lot of commands there but to each his own.
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: we strongly advise you to install ubuntu desktop :p
[03:44] <crazyhorse18> jimcornette, i couldn't get the suone to work
[03:45] <crazyhorse18> basically i want to do runas tom ls -al /test
[03:45] <jimcornette> crazyhorse18,  does tom have a bashrc and profile ?
[03:45] <crazyhorse18> no
[03:45] <jimcornette> well then that is why
[03:45] <crazyhorse18> tom's a system user
[03:45] <jimcornette> you would have to append the bash -c what ever to it
[03:46] <crazyhorse18> ah ok
[03:46] <jimcornette> because it does not have a bash in its profile / bash rc to set
[03:47] <EtaleCoh> Bashing-om: I'm here.  Doing "ls -al /media/passport/" gives that everythng is "moi" (my username) except for "dxwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Jun 19 19:31 .."
[03:51] <flowenut> okay, gonna use lvm for first time, on my laptop, not a server.. I was used to doing manual before to partition. Should I do manual still and there will be lvm options or guided lvm?
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | flowenut
[03:52] <flowenut> I know that I want to have a separate lvm logical section for /home and another for large media files, separately from /
[03:53] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: Run terminal command ' sudo chown moi:moi /media/passport/ ' to change the ownership from that of "root" to uou as "moi" / Now do you have access to the file system ?
[03:53] <flowenut> lotuspsychje: thanks, I'll learn more, not doing RAID though, and my question is really about the Ubuntu install process more than Lvm right now
[03:53] <flowenut> i.e. will Guided with Lvm in the Ubuntu installer let me set up separate Lvm logical volume for /home and such?
[03:54] <flowenut> it looks like no because the only guided options are "use entire disk"
[03:55] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: Typo uou/you*
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> flowenut: maybe this can help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM
[03:59] <crazyhorse18> hey i'm trying to make this function work https://gist.github.com/anonymous/23ccb223b9b41ca8a470  << but i can't get any output from it
[04:00] <flowenut> lotuspsychje: ah! thanks
[04:00] <notaeon> crazyhorse18: should the $1 in the sudo command be in '' marks?
[04:01] <crazyhorse18> notaeon, nah
[04:01] <crazyhorse18> i don't think so
[04:02] <EtaleCoh> No, Bashing-om, I still can't mount as "moi", only as root.
[04:04] <crazyhorse18> fixed it .. double quotes :)
[04:04] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: Yuk, All looks right to me .. I like the fstab entry, and changing the ownership of the mount, you should have access . I presently do not know what else to advise .
[04:04] <EtaleCoh> Bashing-om: I have access as "moi", but I can only mount as root.
[04:06] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: I do have another thought ! Who owns the files under /media/passport/ ? ' la -al /media/passport/<some_directories> ' // Maybe the files prtmissions are effecting ?
[04:07] <flowenut> okay that's really dense... I need some help: Lvm sounds great and like something I want to use now, but I do want to separate my /home
[04:07] <EtaleCoh> moi, Bashing-om.
[04:07] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: As mounting is a admin thing, only one with administrative authority can mount a file system . yes ?
[04:08] <flowenut> I don't quite get from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM where the divide is between physical partitions and Lvm
[04:08] <EtaleCoh> I'm not sure what that means. I can mount USB's just fine as "moi"...
[04:08] <flowenut> It seems it would be easiest to use the guided whole-disk option from the installer
[04:09] <flowenut> I'm just hesitatant because that seems it won't separate /home at all. Should I be concerned about that?
[04:15] <virtuoso_> hey.. can anyone tell me a good tutorial for emacs
[04:15] <ESphynx> TJ-: sorry I didn't really know how to properly test whether the fix is working or not, but someone is reporting that it does?
[04:16] <Bashing-om> EtaleCoh: If I insert a USB drive it does mount via the /udev system . When I mount internal partitions I must supply administrative authority ( password ) to do so . Is this the case here for you ?
[04:20] <TJ-> ESphynx: what fix is that?
[04:25] <MACscr> im trying to get a script to work as a service. i know there is upstart and i guess this is systemd (?), but i dont know enough to convert it to an upstart. I know right now its not working any any level for starting using the service command. it works fine if i just plain run the bash script with the start argument. Any suggestions? Here is the supporting info: http://pastie.org/pastes/10249810/text
[04:25] <MACscr> http://pastie.org/pastes/10249810/text
[04:26] <jimcornette> MACscr, did not look at the paste  but systemd can read systemV init scripts
[04:27] <fishcooker> how to logrotate to keep 3 years log but take 6 months uncompressed?
[04:28] <jimcornette> MACscr, your init looks good what happens when you set -x too it ?
[04:29] <jimcornette> fishcooker, make a cron that has math to check that rotation
[04:30] <MACscr> jimcornette: what  do you mean? it works fine if i outright run the script
[04:31] <jimcornette> MACscr, you know what set -x does right ?  and you have insserv the script ?
[04:32] <MACscr> kinda? no idea on the second part. i didnt right any of this. trying to use an existing script for the app. i just changed a few paths to work with my paths
[04:33] <jimcornette> Ahh I see so set -x sets the script to run in compleate debug mode
[04:33] <jimcornette> !dpkg insserv
[04:33] <jimcornette> err
[04:33] <__nemo__> exit
[04:33] <jimcornette> MACscr,  see https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot
[04:34] <jimcornette> esp the part about insserv
[04:35] <the-erm> Anyone know how to get a touch screen working?  lsusb is showing the device as D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd  when I cat /dev/hidraw0 I get garbage so it's connected however cat /dev/input/event* devices produce nothing.
[04:36] <n3tn0>  im trying to setup bumblebee and am getiting "modprobe error could not insert bbswitch no such device"
[04:36] <n3tn0> any help?
[04:36] <the-erm> What's a bumblebee?
[04:37] <n3tn0> its for having multiple graphics cards
[04:37] <the-erm> cool.
[04:37] <the-erm> What version of ubuntu?
[04:37] <MACscr> grr, getting a little to advanced for my blood. shouldnt take this much effort
[04:38] <jimcornette> n3tn0, you have added the repo and what not what did you try 1st ect ?
[04:38] <jimcornette> you have primus installed and what ont ?
[04:38] <jimcornette> not *
[04:38] <MACscr> trusty
[04:39] <the-erm> http://askubuntu.com/questions/549915/how-to-install-nvidia-drivers-with-bumblebee-on-ubuntu-14-04 has some info.
[04:39] <the-erm> I don't know if it's helpful.
[04:39] <fishcooker> as far as i know there is a cron; file:///etc/cron.daily/logrotate jimcornette
[04:39] <jimcornette> I have used bumble bee for many different nvidia setups.  seems to work fine.  But can take some time to set up 100%
[04:40] <n3tn0> well ya see im doing this on arch
[04:40]  * n3tn0 prepares to be stabbed
[04:40]  * jimcornette hands n3tn0  a shield and say its ok 
[04:40] <the-erm> n3tn0: I thought this was an #ubuntu
[04:40] <n3tn0> but ive exhausted all their ideas and this seems to be more or a deeper problem
[04:40] <n3tn0> xD
[04:40] <the-erm> fair enough.
[04:41] <n3tn0> the issue lies with the modprobe related commands which are common to all linux
[04:41] <jimcornette> n3tn0,  can you tell us what you tried and what happened ect ?
[04:41] <the-erm> I always cheat and put my modprobe commands in /etc/rc.local
[04:41] <n3tn0> the modprobe command is failing
[04:41] <the-erm> ohh.
[04:42] <n3tn0> hasnt been much to try.
[04:42] <n3tn0> everything just comes back to that error
[04:42] <jimcornette> n3tn0,  whats /etc/modprobe.d/bbswitch.conf look like ?
[04:42] <n3tn0> doesnt exist
[04:42] <jimcornette> maybe the load state is funky ?
[04:43] <jimcornette> Oo
[04:43] <n3tn0> we are in the install stage i dont think its even loaded up yet
[04:43] <TJ-> n3tn0: are you aware of nvidia-prime supercedin bumblebee ?
[04:43] <crazyhorse18> is it possible to create a user you can get a shell as without a home directory?
[04:43] <n3tn0> i dont think thats installed but ill check
[04:44] <Gerowen> Does anybody know of a graphical spectrum analyzer for Linux?
[04:45] <netrom__> Gerowen: Have you looked at 'Jaaa'?
[04:45] <the-erm> crazyhorse18: I believe you can set their home directory anywhere you like.  Perhaps you're interested in setting up a jail of some sort.
[04:46] <the-erm> I've only set up jails for ssh users.
[04:46] <crazyhorse18> i'm writing integration tests from commands
[04:46] <crazyhorse18> for*
[04:46] <Gerowen> netrom_: I've looked at a few things, but any time I google "spectrum analyzer" I get results for audio/studio applications instead of radio ones.  Is Jaaa in the repos?
[04:46] <the-erm> it's been a while since I did that.
[04:46] <TJ-> Gerowen: for audio? Spectrum3D
[04:46] <crazyhorse18> so i need to create the user, run the tests, then remove them
[04:46] <TJ-> Gerowen: there's an Ubuntu PPA @ https://launchpad.net/~nadaeck/+archive/ubuntu/spectrum3d
[04:46] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I'm looking for a program to help me compose music.  Any suggestions?
[04:47] <netrom__> Gerowen: yes. I just did a 'apt-cache search spectrum' Seems there are a bunch of different ones there. Not sure which will work for you though
[04:47] <the-erm> crazyhorse18: what's wrong with useradd then rm /path/to/home/ -R
[04:47] <Gerowen> TJ- : Nah for radio purposes.  I talk on a CB radio a lot, and would be interested in seeing if I could connect an HF antenna to my laptop and find some Ubuntu software to monitor the airwaves, see what's out there.
[04:47] <netrom__> Gerowen: You might want to pipe the search through a less/more
[04:47] <TJ-> Gerowen: Spectrum3D can take input from Jack
[04:48] <TJ-> Gerowen: how is the radio input delivered to linux, as an audio input?
[04:48] <Gerowen> TJ-: Could also use it to see if a radio I'm working on is producing spurious, off frequency transmissions, etc.
[04:48] <crazyhorse18> the-erm: yeah ok.. i'll do that
[04:49] <the-erm> it might be adduser ... not sure what the command is I get it reversed sometimes.
[04:49] <TJ-> Gerowen: how would connecting an HF antenna work, without an external frequency analyzer?
[04:49] <the-erm> you'll probably want to delete the user at some point in that process....
[04:50] <Gerowen> TJ-: I was just curious if it was possible, I've seen videos of people running spectrum analyzer software on their PCs, but now that you mention it, I do seem to remember one of them mentioning that he fed it into his sound card.
[04:50] <Gerowen> I'm just doing some research to see how I would set up something similar.
[04:51] <TJ-> Gerowen: That's the thing, if you want to analyse frequencies up around 30MHz you'll need an external analyser; audio isn't going to go much above 32KHz
[04:51] <TJ-> Gerowen: if you just want to analyse a received audio signal then, yes, feed it into the line-in of an audio card
[04:54] <TJ-> Gerowen: you'd need a device similar to this: http://usbspectrumanalyzer.com/
[04:55] <Gerowen> TJ-: Was just looking at one of those, :P
[04:55] <jimcornette> dsnyders, there are alot nothing like 54 or anything like that but  here is a wiki list. used rosegarden in the past works ....ok    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scorewriters
[04:56] <jimcornette> dsnyders, 51 * aka Qlab
[04:57] <TJ-> Gerowen: It seems they drive the DVB-T chipset using osmocom SDR libraries, so you could make that side work on Linux. Then you'd need an analyser that can interface to it
[04:58] <dsnyders> jimcornette: I don't want to typeset music, I want to be able to record/edit/play notes and assemble them into songs.  Sort of the musical equivalent to a paint program
[04:58] <TJ-> Gerowen: working backwards from the osmocom pages, to the reddit hardware compatibility list, gives you many more options too: http://www.reddit.com/r/RTLSDR/comments/s6ddo/rtlsdr_compatibility_list_v2_work_in_progress/
[04:58] <mnr> hi
[04:58] <ObrienDave> 24Mhz minimum? that leaves an awful lot of the RF spectrum un-touched
[04:59] <jimcornette> dsnyders, Like garage band ? or are you looking real hight up like midi and xlr cables ?
[04:59] <mnr> in my system... skype , vlc, qbittorrent not working , some error like "symbol look up error,
[05:00] <Gerowen> This is the video that got me curious, TJ- , https://youtu.be/U7o7V2VDyHI
[05:00] <TJ-> Gerowen: Below that you'll need much longer antennas and different electronics... that's a pretty good range with the DVB-T chipset in such a small device
[05:00] <dsnyders> Let's just say I'm looking more towards the Mary Had a Little Lamb end of the spectrum rather than Handel's Messiah
[05:01] <Gerowen> TJ-: He's using software on a PC that interfaces with some device with a proper antenna.  I've got spare 11 meter antennas that would work fine for 10 and 12 meters, and I can always just build a dipole for lower frequencies if I needed it.
[05:01] <jimcornette> dsnyders, again maybe you would like to look at rosegarden and also LMMS but for real I am sure that you know that 51 Qlab is the industry standard
[05:02] <wolftune> ok, I'm really overwhelmed now. I used to make physical partitions for /home and other things. People said earlier I should try Lvm — okay, but the guided Lvm install just uses the whole disk, no separate /home — and should I do encrypted? (this is just for my laptop)
[05:02] <jimcornette> and it only works on macs.  that is if you are sealing with 32 channels and want a button to press to cue ect.  pulls into boards (almost all) real easy.  In other words there is no replacement atm for Qlab.  Boy how I woish there was
[05:02] <jimcornette> someone could make some real money with taht ^^
[05:02] <jimcornette> that *
[05:02] <mnr> SKYPE, VLC , QBITTORRENT NOT WORKING, SYMBOL LOOK UP ERROR, can anyone  help me?
[05:02] <TJ-> Gerowen: ~ $20 for the hardware looks like a good deal to me
[05:02] <jimcornette> mnr,  what is it ?
[05:03] <jimcornette> what doss ldd say ?
[05:03] <jimcornette> mnr, ^^
[05:03] <mnr> jimcornette: in my system some apps are not running
[05:03] <ubuntu068> dsnyders: There is an #opensourcemusicians channel you might check out
[05:04] <wolftune> I found guides for Lvm, but they are all complex or just go with the default. I've found nothing that simply says, "here's how to install Ubuntu with separate /home but with Lvm instead of physical partitions"
[05:04] <dsnyders> jimcornette: Basically, I know nothing.  I've heard of rosegarden, but it seems like overkill for what I want to do.
[05:04] <mnr> when I run vlc it says skin interface error
[05:04] <dsnyders> ubuntu068: Thanks.  I'll pop over there.
[05:04] <ubuntu068> np
[05:04] <jimcornette> mnr,  I know that but you say whe n you try to run the app that you are getting errors "symbol look up error" wondering if you can paste a full error . IE try to start VLC from the command line
[05:05] <jimcornette> mnr,  this sound Qt'ish to mee
[05:05] <mnr> jimcornette: yeah I guess so its about qt4
[05:06] <jimcornette> mnr,  what is the error and if you run ldd against the app what is missing ?
[05:06] <jimcornette> sounds like you are going to need some qt libs
[05:07] <mnr> jimcornette: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11743854/
[05:07] <theubuntuguy> hello i want to make an custom ubuntu and i want to change the live cd boot menu. you know with the install ubuntu or try ubuntu without installing can you help me? i have no idea how to do it.
[05:07] <mnr> jimcornette: its the vlc code
[05:07] <SkNix> hi, good night
[05:07] <jimcornette> theubuntuguy, maybe you would like to look at live build ?
[05:07] <theubuntuguy> help me please!
[05:08] <theubuntuguy> what mins live build??
[05:08] <jimcornette> mnr,  can you paste the out put of ldd against vlc ?  and also dpkg  -l | grep qt4
[05:08] <TJ-> Gerowen: You've got me interested now, I'm going to buy a dongle and play around :)
[05:09] <jimcornette> theubuntuguy,  http://live.debian.net/devel/live-build/   << live build it is used to make distros and what not
[05:10] <jimcornette> mnr,  brb cigg break
[05:10] <mnr> jimcornette: what would be the exact code to run ldd for vlc
[05:10] <Gerowen> TJ-: lol, I just saw that video and got to thinking it'd be a good way not only to just see what's out there, but also as a tool for working on radios.  Hackjobs working on CB radios will sometimes spread out coils meant to cancel out TVI, it will make a meter "say" they're putting out more power, but the extra power is splattering all over the place, so I figure a spectrum analyzer would help me keep an eye on things like that, and give me a little pro
[05:10] <Gerowen> ject to piddle around on, :P
[05:10] <Ready-Diddy-O> ubuntu sucks
[05:10] <SkNix> hello, guys, can anyone help me? I would like to run the command 'su -c' without a script, it has to be automatic, is run "su" and pass a parameter with the password in text form?
[05:10] <mnr> jimcornette: ah okay m :)
[05:10] <Ready-Diddy-O> did you know that your operating system is a disgrace  to debian
[05:11] <TJ-> Gerowen: It'd be a useful tool for me too; I had no idea there were now SDR solutions using low-cost devices like this. It's rather like the Bitscope USB oscilloscopes
[05:11] <Gerowen> Ready-Diddy-0: If you don't like it then don't use it, there's a whole IRC channel just for Debian, :P
[05:13] <SkNix> Debian does not pay my bills, so do not care what you think about my operating system
[05:14] <theubuntuguy> ok and what do i do with it
[05:15] <dsnyders> SkNix, I'm confused.  What do you mean by 'without a script' and 'it has to be automatic'?  These seem contradictory to me.
[05:15] <theubuntuguy> please help me with my problem
[05:16] <SkNix> dsnyders, excuse, English error .. without entering the password.
[05:16] <jimcornette> theubuntuguy, making a change to any of the options that come in the install is not a easy task. Just depends on what it really is that you are trying to do.
[05:17] <SkNix> dsnyders,
[05:17] <SkNix> I want to run a program with another user, but without entering the password.
[05:17] <DylanRJ> you can't SkNix, you can't use su without a password
[05:17] <DylanRJ> and even if you could, you definitely shouldn't
[05:18] <TJ-> SkNix: You'd need to add an entry to the "/etc/sudoers" configuration, see "man sudoers"
[05:18] <SkNix> DylanRJ, br?
[05:19]  * ObrienDave takes aim at Google translate. *** BOOOOOOOOOOM ***
[05:19] <dsnyders> SkNix, I think the proper way to do it is to add the user to a privileged group and grant that group permission to execute the program in question.
[05:22] <SkNix> dsnyders, have an application, runs on nginx / uwsgi / flask, which must run a program made in ruby, only when you run, it loses all environment variables such as PATH, and carries my genes .. nginx is running with the user correct ... I then use parameters in my application so that when you run the command, sought environmental variables, so I want to run with the user expecífico
[05:22] <theubuntuguy> jimcornette: i have ubuntu mini remix and i want to install some apps , change the installer text , change the boot screen and chang live cd boot menu text and image
[05:23] <SkNix> dsnyders, who runs my program will be the flask .. when command list the current PATH, it lists only the way of the 'env' python you are using.
[05:24] <theubuntuguy> please hlp me :(
[05:29] <theubuntuguy> PLEASE
[05:29] <n3tn0> what?
[05:29] <theubuntuguy> my problm
[05:30] <theubuntuguy> my problem
[05:30] <n3tn0> which is?
[05:30] <theubuntuguy> i want to change the ubuntu live cd boot scren because im making an custom ubuntu
[05:30] <DJ_HaMsTa> grep file.py should work in finding file.py?
[05:31] <dsnyders> SkNix: I'm sorry, but knowing/controlling which environment variables are available where is a bit out of my depth.    I'm not familiar with nginx, uwsgi, flask, and only vaguely aware of ruby and python as programming languages.
[05:31] <n3tn0> look up plymouth
[05:31] <n3tn0> go python!
[05:31] <dsnyders> SkNix: you may need to inquire on a python or ruby channe.
[05:31] <theubuntuguy> no the live cd boot menu
[05:32] <theubuntuguy> like this on: http://i.stack.imgur.com/URzAF.png
[05:32] <SkNix> ok.. thanks
[05:32] <theubuntuguy> no problem :)
[05:33] <shingshang> when you do lspci | grep VGA, and the nvidia card just says "Nvidia Corporation Device 13d8" what does that mean? that it's not recognized?
[05:33] <dsnyders> theubuntuguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1687418  or  https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/739139-roll-your-own-customized-ubuntu-with-uck may be of help.
[05:34] <theubuntuguy> well i did my cutom ubuntu with uck
[05:34] <DocMAX2> hello
[05:35] <DocMAX2> i need to have a process running even if it crashs
[05:35] <DocMAX2> i'm on ubuntu server
[05:35] <jimcornette> theubuntuguy, again not a easy task what do you mean by menu ?  the whiptail menu or are you talking about ubiquity ?
[05:36] <theubuntuguy> look at this picture:http://i.stack.imgur.com/URzAF.png
[05:36] <jimcornette> theubuntuguy, not ubuntu but what does this do ?  ;)  http://cgi.build.live-systems.org/cgi-bin/live-build
[05:37] <jimcornette> theubuntuguy, yeah you can use all sorts of things to customize that.  again my suggestion would be live-build by debian
[05:37] <theubuntuguy> i tryed this but it is not what i want
[05:37] <harishkrupo> DocMAX2, how does it crash?
[05:37] <snadge> has there been any discussion on how the current version of ubuntu handles the leap second coming up?
[05:37] <snadge> eg.. are we just going to get an extra second at midnight
[05:38] <DocMAX2> harishkrupo i dint know
[05:39] <harishkrupo> DocMAX2, is it the problem of the program or is someother program crashing it?
[05:40] <dsnyders> snadge: I plan on using the time to shut everything down, wipe all the drives, and reinstall from protected storage.
[05:40] <theubuntuguy> i tryed to run uck and i selected everything but when i click start it wont ask me for an sudo password
[05:41] <harishkrupo> DocMAX2, you can write a script that constantly monitors the program and restart it if it crashes
[05:42] <snadge> its a serious question though.. there seems to be two general approaches to this problem.. one is googles, of in the 10 hours leading up to the leap second, to insert microseconds.. and the other appears to be to use the ntp specified method which is to repeat a second at midnight
[05:43] <snadge> from the limited research i've done.. we should see a message printed in the kernel logs about repeating a second.. and that should be about it.. i think 23:59:59 gets repeated twice.. not sure
[05:43] <harishkrupo> DocMAX2, do you need a script?
[05:44] <ObrienDave> snadge, and this affects the outcome of all things how?
[05:44] <snadge> in 2012 it caused a flight booking system in australia to crash.. and there are other issues including, but not limited to, database operations that rely on the ordering of queries based on the timestamp
[05:45] <snadge> pretty boring stuff
[05:45] <ObrienDave> OMG seriously?
[05:45] <ObrienDave> ROFLMAO
[05:45] <theubuntuguy> can somebody help me?
[05:45] <DocMAX2> harishkrupo, a tool
[05:45] <ubuntu068> good thing everyone runs up to date soft/hardware
[05:46] <theubuntuguy> i tryed to run uck and i selected everything but when i click start it wont ask me for an sudo password
[05:46] <harishkrupo> DocMAX2, which program is that?
[05:47] <dsnyders> theubuntuguy: Did you run uck as sudo?
[05:47] <ubuntu068> theubuntuguy: This in a live enviroment?
[05:48] <theubuntuguy> whn i try to run it as sudo it says you shoud not run uck as root please run uck as normal user bcause it will ask for sudo password
[05:50] <theubuntuguy> when i try to run it as sudo it says you shoud not run uck as root please run uck as normal user bcause it will ask for sudo password
[05:50] <DocMAX2> harishkrupo, it's logstash
[05:53] <theubuntuguy> help
[05:53] <harishkrupo> DocMAX2, here check this link, http://superuser.com/questions/507576/how-to-automatically-restart-a-linux-background-process-if-it-fails
[05:53] <DocMAX2> thx
[05:54] <theubuntuguy> ok now can somebody help me
[05:54] <harishkrupo> DocMAX2, here is another for ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/251577/how-to-supervise-and-automatically-restart-a-process
[05:54] <harishkrupo> DocMAX2, check this one it is better
[05:54] <BUITRE> cual esel canal en español
[05:55] <n1ghtmar3> hi
[05:55] <ObrienDave> theubuntuguy, this channel is for Ubuntu OS support. not for creating your own custom spin
[05:55] <theubuntuguy> help
[05:56] <harishkrupo> !en | harishkrupo
[05:56] <theubuntuguy> where do i need to go for my problem
[05:56] <ObrienDave> !es | BUITRE
[05:56] <theubuntuguy> to #ubuntuforums
[05:58]  * ObrienDave is still chuckling about the "leap second" ROFL
[06:05] <theubuntuguy> lol fixed my problem
[06:07] <dsnyders> snadge: Under UTC definitions, the second before 00:00:00 can be 23:59:60, 23:59:59, or 23:59:58.  The problem is that timestamps should not be in UTC, but in TAI.
[06:07] <dsnyders> theubuntuguy: What was the fix?
[06:08] <theubuntuguy> delete the tmp folder from home
[06:10] <pow> hi
[06:10] <ObrienDave> dsnyders, TAI?
[06:10] <pow> thai
[06:11] <snadge> dsnyders, perhaps a relevant question would be if i run "date" the second after 23:59:59 on a modern debian system.. what will i see?
[06:11] <snadge> err ubuntu rather
[06:19] <Ben64> snadge: 23:59:60 probably
[06:20] <shingshang> anyone know the state of optimus laptop driver support in 14.04? I couldn't get it working, and ask ubuntu is full of unanswered questions of the same thing
[06:20] <dsnyders> ObrienDave: International Atomic Time.  UTC has periodic adjustments to keep it within one second of mean solar time.  TAI does not adjust.  It merely counts seconds.
[06:22] <dsnyders> snadge: what you would get depends on the day you run it.
[06:24] <molavy> which port used for default ping in this example : ping google.com
[06:24] <molavy> ?
[06:26] <al2o3-cr> ping doesn't use ports
[06:28] <dsnyders> al2o3-cr: Well, it would use 53 in this case to do the DNS lookup of google.com.
[06:29] <al2o3-cr> dsnyders: it uses icmp packets
[06:36] <csgeek> hi all.  I'm trying to install the nvidia driver and I'm having all sorts of issues.  I was wondering if anyone might want to try to give me a hand?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: whats your card chipset mate?
[06:37] <csgeek> 02:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107GLM [Quadro K1100M] (rev a1)
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: and driver currently loaded?
[06:38] <csgeek> nvidia-352
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: you know if your card has optimus technology?
[06:39] <csgeek> no clue.. how would I find out?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: the official page of your nvidia card should mention it
[06:41] <Rad-Dad-Daddy-O> Well I'll be
[06:42] <csgeek> not sure what page you're refering to, but I can use prime-select to switch b/w intel and nvidia
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[06:43] <al2o3-cr> molavy: np
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[06:44] <robhol> "mods mods mods!"
[06:44] <al2o3-cr> tonyyarusso: thanks
[06:44] <csgeek> yikes
[06:44] <mikelnx> he was too Rad for the channel...lol
[06:45]  * robhol spanks mikelnx
[06:45] <robhol> awful. :D
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> keep it support related guys
[06:45] <csgeek> so.. basically if I use prime-select intel, then it works .. sort of.  But if I do a prime-select nvidia then it fails and I just get a black screen
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: if your card has optimus you need nvidia-prime
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: to enable performance mode of your nvidia card
[06:46] <csgeek> i have nvidia-prime installed
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: ok check nvidia-settings from dash
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: to see if you have turned on performance mode
[06:46] <csgeek> well, I can't get into X unless I switch to intel.. but sure
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: wich ubuntu version?
[06:47] <csgeek> 14.10
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: oh, you might wanna upgrade to 15.04 or clean install 14.04
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: 14.10 will be end of life pretty soon
[06:47] <csgeek> yeah.. but would that really help with the driver?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: things might get stable on 14.04.2
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: i would try LTS for sure with internet+updates during setup and install nvidia-prime
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: then tweak your system for gaming (steam) if thats what you need?
[06:49] <csgeek> nah.. i don't care about gaming... right now.. just about any app that uses GLX crashes my x server
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> right
[06:49] <csgeek> mostly just want the nvidia driver so X is stable...
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: if you look for stable try LTS
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> csgeek: but you might get it working on 15.04 also
[06:55] <csgeek> alright.. I guess time to backup and such
[06:56] <aktech> \HELP
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> aktech: how can we help you?
[06:56] <aktech> Sorry, was attempting to pull up the command list for the client. Wrong escape char.
[06:57] <aktech> Thanks for asking though!
[07:01] <BUITRE> anybody know how to install rkhunter
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | BUITRE sudo apt-get install rkhunter
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter
[07:04] <jkavalik> hello
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> jkavalik: what can we do for you?
[07:04] <jkavalik> netbeans "attach debugger" gives me "ptrace: Operation not permitted" even after running "ptrace: Operation not permitted" and restarting both debugged app (mariadb test suite) and netbeans - ubuntu 12.04 - is there some more trick to it?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> BUITRE: sudo apt-get install rkhunter (from terminal)
[07:05] <jkavalik> * even after running "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope" I meant
[07:06] <BUITRE> lotus;i install from synaptic like any other software pcage but, i cant see in the desktop menu list.
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> BUITRE: rkunter is a terminal program, please scan your system from commandline
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> BUITRE: man rkhunter for the commands help
[07:07] <BUITRE> okay thanks lotus
[07:07] <calvinx> I am think of buying a laptop for windows/ubuntu dual boot, for development work with Yocto for instance. what’s a good laptop you would recommend
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> BUITRE: also try clamav, if you suspy a virus/rootkit
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: most laptops will run ubuntu fine mate, an ssd would improve your system alot
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: ssd+ higher ram + ubuntu 64bit would do the trick
[07:09] <calvinx> yea, I am aware most laptops will run ubuntu fine. I am a seasoned user of linux and manage production linux servers as well.
[07:09] <calvinx> But my development machine is a Mac.
[07:09] <calvinx> So I am thinking of buying a laptop just for a windows/ubuntu dual boot primarily to handle embedded linux development work with Yocto.
[07:09] <BUITRE> i dont know why the software developers does'nt do a better interface for clamAV ,
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: there is a dell xps dev version
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> BUITRE: clamav is also commandline mate
[07:10] <calvinx> like this? http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop?c=us&l=en&s=biz
[07:10] <Norbin> hey
[07:11] <Norbin> running latest ubuntu server through hyperv, the terminal window bugs on me, it finishes loading and then nothing responds, i can't type anything
[07:11] <Norbin> i was told to change the resolution via the grub config file which i did
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: yes, but in my opninion youl be cheaper if you buy an ssd yourself
[07:11] <Norbin> i tried several different resolution/color depth codes
[07:11] <Norbin> same problem
[07:11] <BUITRE> must be started from terminal?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Norbin: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can help on this?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> BUITRE: yes, man clamav for commands
[07:11] <Norbin> thanks lotuspsychje didn't know it exists
[07:11] <Norbin> i will ask there
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: you can also ask the devs themselfs wich machines they use in #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-touch
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Norbin: im sure they can also point, whats important
[07:13] <farsonic> hi there … is there a way to return a Ubuntu server back to it’s Factory Installed image? Ie remove anything added since install?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> farsonic: clean install with liveusb/dvd?
[07:14] <lala> How do I remove the Up/Down arrows (network icon) on Ubuntu? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/lwBTYwdc/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-20%20at%203.12.51%20AM.png
[07:14] <calvinx> sheez, they are really stingy with the SSD disk space - http://www.dell.com/sg/p/xps-13-9343-laptop/pd
[07:14] <farsonic> yeah
[07:14] <farsonic> machine is no where near me
[07:14] <farsonic> might have to wait a couple of days
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: i would reccomend a samsung pro 850 as ssd with ubuntu
[07:14] <calvinx> is samsung pro any good?
[07:14] <auronandace> farsonic: you could restore from a backup
[07:14] <calvinx> I am already wary of samsung products...
[07:15] <BUITRE> i leave, thanks lotus
[07:15] <farsonic> yeah
[07:15] <calvinx> I have a samsung g4 android phone for android development and it sucks
[07:15] <farsonic> just a machine that is a sandpit for testing
[07:15] <farsonic> so, testing done…want it back to original
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: you cant compare phones with ssd, but thats offtopic
[07:15] <calvinx> haha. ok. just wondering about samsung as a hardware manufacturer in general.
[07:16] <calvinx> so you think samsung pro 850 makes a good dev machine.
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: you can always ak in ##hardware
[07:16] <calvinx> ok
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: yes, but the right cpu and ram ofcourse
[07:16] <calvinx> you are using that yourself?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: maybe i5+
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: yes i use the samsung pro 850 14.04 64bit on my netbook and desktop
[07:16] <calvinx> cool
[07:17] <calvinx> will take a look at your recommendation. thank you.
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: 8sec boot 3 sec halt
[07:17] <calvinx> wa. nice.
[07:17] <calvinx> you run ubuntu only on it or both windows and ubuntu?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: ubuntu only
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: dualboot are bit more complex with uefi, but working fine on ssd
[07:18] <calvinx> cool. thanks. will check it out.
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> calvinx: good luck!
[07:18] <calvinx> :)
[07:18] <calvinx> thanks!
[07:18] <calvinx> appreciate the recommendation.
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> no sweat mate
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | calvinx to make it even faster
[07:20] <calvinx> nice tip. thanks.
[07:24] <krunal> vik
[07:48] <easyOnMe> hello fellas
[07:49] <habbasi> Hi, easyOnMe.
[07:49] <easyOnMe> I am using this command on the terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y flashplugin-installer
[07:49] <easyOnMe> and it says I got the latest version of flash
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: so your up to date :p
[07:50] <easyOnMe> yet when I go to facebook and run some media requiring flash
[07:50] <easyOnMe> it says I need to update my flash
[07:50] <habbasi> easyOnMe: Linux support for plugin Flash was dropped at version 11, I think.
[07:50] <easyOnMe> this is nuts
[07:50] <habbasi> easyOnMe: You need Chrome for latest Flash.
[07:50] <easyOnMe> habbasi: I was still able to play some media in facebook last week
[07:50] <easyOnMe> and those media require flash
[07:50] <easyOnMe> I was playing them perfectly fine
[07:50] <easyOnMe> now I do not know what happened
[07:51] <habbasi> easyOnMe: But Firefox has an old version, like I said. Facebook must have changed their version requirements.
[07:51] <habbasi> easyOnMe: Flash is still supported as a pepper plugin, but I haven't gotten that to work with Firefox yet.
[07:52] <habbasi> easyOnMe: Chrome has the latest Flash.
[07:52] <habbasi> easyOnMe: As it supports the pepper API.
[07:55] <easyOnMe> habbasi: Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:55] <easyOnMe> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:55] <easyOnMe> is only available from another source
[07:55] <easyOnMe> E: Package 'adobe-flashplugin' has no installation candidate
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:56] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: like how
[07:56] <easyOnMe> what is the command
[07:57] <easyOnMe> in the terminal
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:03] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: it made some processing on the terminal but I am not sure I still can not play flash dependent media from facebook
[08:04] <mon__> hello I need some help
[08:04] <easyOnMe> mon__: like what
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: might be Fb related
[08:05] <mon__> in my system vlc skype qbittorrent is not working ...
[08:05] <easyOnMe> mon__: skype does not work on ubuntu
[08:05] <easyOnMe> so if I were you do not hope anymore
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: thats not true
[08:05] <mon__> easyOnMe: symbol lookup error , seems qt problem
[08:05] <MonkeyDust> i have skype working on ubuntu
[08:05] <easyOnMe> I tried installing skype on ubuntu 5 five times and those do not work
[08:06] <mon__> no , it worked before
[08:06] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: can you please tell me where to look for that window in ubuntu that requires you to configure those packages that are proprietary
[08:06] <mon__> even vlc is no working
[08:06] <easyOnMe> I remember installing flash that way
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: it could be a facebook issue flash mate
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: did you try on chroium?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> chromium
[08:08] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: one sec
[08:08] <easyOnMe> I will check
[08:12] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: i think it is firefox
[08:12] <easyOnMe> I remember
[08:12] <easyOnMe> I manage to solve this
[08:12] <easyOnMe> its just that I forget what I did last time
[08:13] <mon__> hey can anyone help me
[08:13] <mon__> vlc not openning , skins2 interface error: cannot instantiate qt4 dialogs provider
[08:14] <easyOnMe> mon__: sorry I do not know how to help with that
[08:15] <mon__> easyOnMe: its okay, its a problem about qt4 , if its fixed everything will work, vlc skype that all are depended on qt4
[08:24] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: how can I find PPA in ubuntu
[08:25] <easyOnMe> I just manage to remember after doing some google search
[08:25] <mon__> okay fixed it ;)
[08:26] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  what do you want to do?
[08:26] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: I want to update my flashplugin on firefox
[08:27] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  careful with ppa's, they can ruin your system
[08:27] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: oh is it
[08:27] <easyOnMe> like how
[08:28] <MonkeyDust> !ppa | easyOnMe
[08:28] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: I just need to update my firefox flashplugin that's all
[08:31] <paintDC> littlephil
[08:32] <paintDC> Hello
[08:33] <paintDC> Hi Valerio
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  is html5 'activated' in firefox?  https://www.youtube.com/html5
[08:40] <histo> easyOnMe: are you talking about ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[08:43] <easyOnMe> histo: yup
[08:43] <easyOnMe> anyway I got a download from firefox here
[08:43] <easyOnMe> its a .tar.gz
[08:43] <easyOnMe> show shall I install it after I downloaded it
[08:47] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  is it only on the FB website  that you're having this problem?
[08:47] <histo> easyOnMe: download of what?
[08:47] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: yup
[08:47] <easyOnMe> histo: flash installer for linux
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  can you watch youtube clips?
[08:48] <easyOnMe> ok thanks
[08:48] <histo> easyOnMe: flashplugin-installer would work
[08:48] <easyOnMe> histo: I tried it did not
[08:49] <histo> easyOnMe: it didn't what?
[08:49] <easyOnMe> histo: it did not do anything
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  if you can watch clips on the youtube website, then you know it's not flash related
[08:49] <histo> easyOnMe: it installs the latest flash plugin from adobe
[08:51] <coffee__cup> Why does git keep asking me for my username
[08:52] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: yeah you are right
[08:52] <easyOnMe> I can run youtube clips
[08:52] <easyOnMe> I think it is facebook related
[08:52] <easyOnMe> damn this thing
[08:52] <easyOnMe> lol
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> coffee__cup  1100+ people in #git
[08:53] <histo> easyOnMe: I've seen other people complaining about facebooks videos not work if that's what you are experiencing.
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  it may be personal... did you ever upset or insult zuckerberg?    (joke)
[08:55] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: man
[08:55] <easyOnMe> lol
[08:55] <easyOnMe> I think I didn't
[08:56] <easyOnMe> because if he did he would have banned me from facebook all together
[09:12] <tomkmem> Hi, could I ask some advice on determining if a hard drive is bad? https://gist.github.com/tomdymond/9ee8807232efaa69868c
[09:12] <tomkmem> the controller says the drive is OK but the kernel is spitting errors that worry me somewhat
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> tomkmem: that doesnt look very good, try the disk tools from ubuntu
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> tomkmem: and perform a test
[09:13] <tomkmem> what would be a good tool to use?
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> tomkmem: smart test is reliable yes
[09:13] <tomkmem> thanks i'll give that a go
[09:14] <gagalicious> anything (free preferably) better than clamav for linux?
[09:14] <gagalicious> paid is fine as long as it's really good.
[09:14] <sennn> ubuntu 15.10 not use linux 4.x now,sad...
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: rkhunter can grab rootkits
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> sennn: join #ubuntu+1 for 15.10
[09:16] <gagalicious> can i ask a "wise question"? why cant u guys stick with kernel 3 and just make it 3.a billion till the end of time without any new kernel upgrades? is that not possible? cant get it right the first time? we are not talking about doing a new one for quantum computing u know...
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: updates will always be needed..
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: to improve things
[09:19] <histo> !av | gagalicious
[09:19] <gagalicious> yeah... but 3.... til end of time is good enough. to keep compatibility with old stable usefulwares... if u know what i mean... instead of learning new tricks like systemd etc... u know what i mean? it's totally redundant on the sysadmin site
[09:19] <gagalicious> side
[09:19] <histo> gagalicious: systemd has nothing to do with the kernel
[09:19] <gagalicious> histo: i'm hosting community driven files.
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: thats why we have Long time support
[09:20] <histo> !lts | gagalicious
[09:20] <gagalicious> histo: yeah so why does people do the change?... i wish u guys can make some resilient against upgrade. not to say i'm resistant to change but i'm very sure u can improve the old ones to be better than the new
[09:20] <histo> gagalicious: how would you suggest people improve the 'old ones' whatever that means, without making changes?
[09:21] <gagalicious> maybe someone should start one with a its <- indefinite term support... that'll ease everyone's pains
[09:21] <gagalicious> unix philosophy in software development?
[09:21] <histo> gagalicious: 5 years is pretty long.
[09:21] <gagalicious> modularize everything? make them do what is necessary, upgrade where needs be... without such new stuff
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: there's always payed support from canonical also
[09:22] <gagalicious> ok
[09:22] <gagalicious> i think 5 years is too short.
[09:22] <histo> gagalicious: Can you predict what computer we'll be running in five years?
[09:22] <histo> gagalicious: You're not making any sense.
[09:22] <gagalicious> ok. nvm
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: maybe you should discuss this with the devs
[09:22] <gagalicious> it's like this...
[09:22] <gagalicious> let's say ubuntu 16 comes out...
[09:23] <gagalicious> i know so much stack of the linux system will have to be upgraded and changed
[09:23] <gagalicious> dependencies etc
[09:23] <histo> gagalicious: it will, ubuntu is released on a cycle
[09:23] <gagalicious> it'll take roughly 1 year to get it right... everything
[09:24] <gagalicious> then... 6 months to deploy, 2 years to run. and and then... ubuntu 17 comes out... same ordeal again... wow... never ends! each stack is costly to upgrade
[09:24] <gagalicious> and each stack.. being upgraded... will need 1  to 2 years to stabilize
[09:24] <histo> gagalicious: LTS
[09:24] <gagalicious> i think it's fair to say that... each upgrade will only have 2 years of real production usage... makes me wonder how many people are stuck with a decade old systems now
[09:25] <EriC^^> gagalicious: long term support , not life term support
[09:25] <gagalicious> confidently i say... 70% still use the 10 years ago code
[09:25] <histo> gagalicious: I would assume only people that feel the way you do.
[09:25] <histo> gagalicious: Do you run hardware in production that is 10 years old?
[09:25] <gagalicious> nope
[09:25] <histo> k
[09:25] <gagalicious> it's the software i'm talking about
[09:25] <histo> omg
[09:26] <histo> gagalicious: Yeah the software that makes your hardware run
[09:26] <gagalicious> too many things can break with new software
[09:26]  * sennn WTF
[09:26] <histo> gagalicious: You're right we should all still be using DOS
[09:26] <histo> If they'd only patched it and kept it going.
[09:28] <gagalicious> makes me think about the banking systems/software... most still use what's been used in the 80s-90s
[09:28] <gagalicious> without upgrades... hmm..
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: drop the offtopic in here plz
[09:28] <gagalicious> ok\
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: you can suggest ideas in #ubuntu-devel if you like
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> gagalicious: or join mailing lists
[09:46] <lihua> 有人吗？
[09:47] <bruttoecattivo> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[09:47] <bruttoecattivo> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[09:53] <Runescape101> clear
[09:53] <Runescape101> as
[09:53] <Runescape101> as
[09:53] <Runescape101> as
[09:55] <Xor1> Hows everyone doing?
[09:58] <OerHeks> Xor1, fine, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:00] <Norbin> .
[10:01] <colbyf> Hey all, I can't seem to make /build wireless drivers in kubuntu. I have headers installed.
[10:01] <colbyf> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2b72b19da80537f8dfa8
[10:03] <OerHeks> colbyf, what guide are you following to build that driver?
[10:04] <colbyf> its the same thing I have done across all distros, including ubuntu, but kubuntu seems to be odd
[10:04] <colbyf> download from git make sudo make install
[10:05] <colbyf> thats it
[10:05] <colbyf> http://askubuntu.com/questions/607339/rtl8723be-bluetooth-does-not-work
[10:06] <OerHeks> o you have build-essentials installed?
[10:06] <HarryMilnes> I was wondering if anyone could tell me some stuff about IPTables? I'm wondering if you can reroute traffic from a ddos attack back to the attacker
[10:06] <OerHeks> *so
[10:07] <colbyf> OerHeks, most likely not
[10:07] <colbyf> its a fresh install, but never come across this before, how do I find build essentials
[10:09] <OerHeks> colbyf, come on, you stated you have done this across all distro's ....
[10:09] <OerHeks> !build
[10:10] <colbyf> thanks reading through it now
[10:12] <colbyf> OerHeks, perfect you are a star. Seems like kubuntu doesn’t come with them packages. Most I had to do previously was install headers.. So thankyou
[10:13] <OerHeks> colbyf, have fun :-)
[10:34] <ePirat> After installing a newer nvidia driver which did not worked and switching back to older one, the window manager is broken
[10:34] <ePirat> I have no unity sidebar, neither does any window has a title bar
[10:37] <FreeManBounty> ePIrat, i know how to solve
[10:37] <FreeManBounty> Just got that problem yesterday
[10:38] <Guest13309> i am getting error while installing ubuntu in windows xp. anyone help me to install please.
[10:38] <Ben64> you can't install ubuntu in windows
[10:39] <ePirat> FreeManBounty, how did you fix it?
[10:39] <FreeManBounty> Epiraz: open the terminal ctrl+Alt+T,
[10:39] <Ben64> ePirat: how did you install the newer one, how did you switch to the old one
[10:39] <FreeManBounty> and type "ccsm"
[10:40] <FreeManBounty> compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:40] <FreeManBounty> if you don't have try install it
[10:40] <ePirat> Ben64, the newer oner using the nvidia installer, the older one with apt-get install
[10:40] <Ben64> did you uninstall the nvidia one first
[10:41] <ePirat> Ben64, no, as I couldn't figure out how to do that
[10:41] <Ben64> well... theres a problem
[10:41] <FreeManBounty> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMTkx8y1K88
[10:41] <FreeManBounty> here is the video
[10:44] <FreeManBounty> Guest13309: do you means dualboot ?
[11:03] <ePirat> FreeManBounty, thanks but no setting I make in ccsm seems to have any effect
[11:03] <sudo> is ubuntu 14.04 LTS has systemd ?
[11:03] <sudo> s/is/does
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> sudo: no still has the init system
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> sudo: systemd is from 15.04 by default
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> sudo: you can ofcourse install system manualy aswell
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> systemd
[11:06] <OerHeks> ePirat, you'll need to unistall that .run driver from the website, look at the website how
[11:06] <sudo> lotuspsychje: that's good thing that i can install it :) but is that stable enough for  production ?
[11:06] <OerHeks> then install the original driver from our sources
[11:06] <ePirat> OerHeks, I already uninstalled it now
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> sudo: i would not reccomend to install systemd on 14.04
[11:06] <ePirat> OerHeks, and reinstalled one from apt-get which worked before
[11:07] <sudo> lotuspsychje: any specific reasons ?
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> sudo: well because its not default, it will need manualy convert from init to systemd
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | sudo
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> sudo: lets reverse the question, why do you need systemd in production for exactly?
[11:08] <sudo> lotuspsychje: thanks :)
[11:09] <sudo> lotuspsychje: to use geard for docker
[11:09] <FreeManBounty> ePirat: do you already try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> sudo: and i presume you want stable LTS as base
[11:10] <sudo> yup
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> sudo: well in your case, it might be a good idea then
[11:10] <ePirat> FreeManBounty, no, I will try that.
[11:10] <sudo> thought of using 15.04 but after 6 months again reinstalling back everything again is a pain.
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> sudo: indeed, and 16.04 will have systemd anyway so better stick LTS :p
[11:11] <sudo> yeah true :)
[11:13] <FreeManBounty> ePirat: i was trying many method before, only the one in youtube works, but you could see in http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[11:13] <Ben64> i really don't think its a unity problem, sounds like a driver problem
[11:17] <FreeManBounty> Ben64: idk, it appears to many users, i dont have nvidia, but got the problem too
[11:17] <Jeff__> when i try to 'apt-get build-dep' i get "You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"
[11:18] <Jeff__> is there anyway i can fix this without opening /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:18] <Jeff__> with a single command?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> !sources | Jeff__
[11:18] <Ben64> FreeManBounty: treat the cause, not the symptoms
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:19] <OerHeks> Jeff__, no, you will need to enable them and update.
[11:20] <Jeff__> there is not a command that will adjust the file?
[11:20] <Jeff__> do i have to edit the file myself?
[11:20] <OerHeks> Jeff__, no, just go into softwarecenter > edit > sources, enable them and save it
[11:20] <OerHeks> then update :-)
[11:20] <Jeff__> ahh, it's a server with no GUI
[11:21] <OerHeks> Jeff__, then you have to edit yourself
[11:26] <pylua> I have 2 disk , disk a is mounted at / ,and b is at /vdb  , when I write thing to b ,why the space of a is decreasing ?
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> pylua: is it raid?
[11:28] <OerHeks> your / root folder counts the mounted drive as space too.
[11:28] <pylua> so what should I do ,the / has report 100% used !
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> pylua: clean out and backup
[11:29] <wickedheadache> i think updates messed up my cp21x module for my dualminer
[11:30] <pylua> but why it occupy disk a space when writing to b ?
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> pylua: oerheks just told you why
[11:31] <wickedheadache> my gridseed has a different driver now but loads fine, what do i do to fix my dualminer cp2101? it says the modual is there but the tree lists a bunch of aliases and not the device
[11:31] <pylua> lotuspsychje:I do not understand that
[11:33] <wickedheadache> i've also tried booting into previous versions of ubuntu 14 real time/lowlat
[11:33] <wickedheadache> i've googled and tried the steps listed but get an error
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | pylua try install and clean system
[11:35] <BluesKaj> pylua, run sudo apt-get autoremove and sudo apt-get autoclean
[11:37] <wickedheadache> dmesg says a new usb device was loaded and added to serial usb
[11:38] <wickedheadache> but i do not see the device using lsusb
[11:38] <wickedheadache> miner software only sees the gridseed
[11:40] <turtletoos> hello, how would i go about installing my sd card reader. im a noob.. i have the tar.gz from dells driver i just don't know how to install it
[11:42] <bekks> turtletoos: why do you thingk you need a driver?
[11:42] <bekks> *think
[11:43] <turtletoos> ubuntu isn't recognizing when i insert the sd card. http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=V8HKV&fileId=2731098882&osCode=WN104&productCode=latitude-e6420&languageCode=EN&categoryId=DD
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> turtletoos: thats the driver for ubuntu 10.10
[11:44] <OerHeks> turtletoos, how is that card formatted? usually cardreaders work OOTB
[11:44] <wickedheadache> yea it usually auto detects
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> turtletoos: do you have a card inside it already?
[11:46] <turtletoos> yea, i tried removing it and such.
[11:46] <turtletoos> lotuspsychje, i believe that is the lastest driver from dell. it contains the driver name atleast
[11:47] <Ubunty> Hello friends
[11:47] <Ubunty> hello
[11:48] <OerHeks> turtletoos, what does " lspci " day about your hardware?
[11:50] <Ubunty> does anyone have resources on getting familiar with ubuntu>
[11:50] <kostkon> !manual | Ubunty
[11:51] <Ubunty> Thank you
[11:51] <bazhang> !rute | Ubunty and this
[11:52] <OerHeks> seen your paste, turtletoos, cardreader is detected.
[11:53] <OerHeks> turtletoos, how is that card formatted? what does "sudo fdisk -l " say ?
[11:53] <turtletoos> is it a matter of just mounting it then? - i figured it would appear like a cd-rom
[11:53] <OerHeks> exfat i guess
[11:57] <gagalicious> i'm about to format a backup storage space for backup purposes. waht's the best inode size settings etc for mkfs.ext4 to enable for a lot of small tiny files of 1k each? this is a 2tb hdd
[11:57] <wickedheadache> it would if you had a usb or stick in it
[11:57] <turtletoos> what is the cmd to format to ext4 .. i see the dev/sda now , trying to add content
[11:58] <wickedheadache> try using gparted?
[11:58] <turtletoos> duh... ok well thanks for pointing me in the right direction! :)
[12:07] <turtletoos> one more question since im here... how do i set it up so on start up .. it runs two simple command.. sudo rtorrent, and screen -dmS irssi irssi
[12:08] <OerHeks> running a torrent program as root is bad.
[12:08] <turtletoos> this is on a raspi - i know its bad practice but just trying to produce results
[12:17] <SchrodingersScat> !boot | turtletoos ?
[12:17] <turtletoos> ty
[12:19] <SchrodingersScat> turtletoos: would you not want the rtorrent in a screen as well?  and 2nding the "oh why would you sudo rtorrent?"
[12:19] <turtletoos> i would.. -- idk like i said im new to linux
[12:23] <zykotick9> does ubuntu run on a raspi?
[12:23] <turtletoos> yes
[12:24] <zykotick9> can someone besides turtletoos confirm this form me?
[12:24] <zykotick9> s/form/for/
[12:24] <turtletoos> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[12:25] <zykotick9> hummm, interesting.  thanks turtletoos
[12:25] <jkavalik> netbeans "attach debugger" gives me "ptrace: Operation not permitted" even after running "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope" and restarting both debugged app (mariadb test suite) and netbeans - ubuntu 12.04 - is there some more trick to it?
[12:26] <OerHeks> zykotick9, rasp 2 maybe, not the 1
[12:27] <turtletoos> it wasn't that hard either
[12:27] <zykotick9> OerHeks: you are correct, "..Ubuntu MATE 15.04 image for the Raspberry Pi 2 which.."
[12:52] <hoylemd> Hey, I installed a new ubuntu server the other day (most recent distro), and I started a server on a port, but all of the packets are rejected. Is there some firewall enabled by defaut?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !firewall | hoylemd, firewall is disabled by default
[12:53] <cfhowlett> !server | hoylemd,
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> hoylemd: maybe router blocks it? or not configged the server correctly?
[12:54] <hoylemd> It's znc. I just went through the basic setup for it, maybe the port I chose is already in use?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> hoylemd: maybe the #znc guys might know?
[12:55] <hoylemd> maybe. I just did a `netstat -tupln` and it looks like it's an ipv6 port. maybe that's the problem
[12:57] <hoylemd> Oh derp I had the server set up to use ssl
[13:01] <Ubunty> I have a question
[13:01] <Ubunty> If I hide the dock how do I made it appear when I want it?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> Ubunty: slide over dock area with mouse
[13:02] <Ubunty> for some reason that doesn't work
[13:02] <Ubunty> it's just me I guess
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> Ubunty: so you autohide sidebar and you cant get it back?
[13:03] <Ubunty> Unless I use the menu key
[13:03] <Ubunty> on my keyboard
[13:03] <Ubunty> I can't hover it back
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> Ubunty: what if you re-enable it?
[13:05] <EriC^^> Ubunty: try to adjust the sensitivity
[13:05] <EriC^^> and make sure it's not set only to reveal in the corner
[13:06] <Ubunty> I adjusted it to high, and double checked the corner option
[13:06] <Ubunty> I'll just re-enable it
[13:06] <EriC^^> Ubunty: you actually have to give it a push to the left to get it to reveal
[13:06] <EriC^^> not just put it over it
[13:07] <Ubunty> ah, must be because my vm isn't fullscreen
[13:29] <Ubunty> is the q key the universal key for closing apps running in terminal?
[13:29] <Ubunty> I'm seeing a trend emerging
[13:32] <EriC^^> Ubunty: not all
[13:32] <Ubunty> Dumb question, sorry
[13:33] <Ubunty> But I notice it does close a lot of things, which is useful to know
[13:33] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:33] <EriC^^> i just noticed it closes ed
[13:39] <JokeArt> anyone available?
[13:40] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[13:40] <JokeArt> can someone help me
[13:40] <JokeArt> i got this error :
[13:40] <JokeArt> dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'linux-sound-base' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed
[13:41] <JokeArt> i got this error everytime i install apps from terminal
[13:41] <OerHeks> !info linux-sound-base
[13:41] <renergy> hello there - installed ubuntu-server 14.04 and (manually) xfce. Pretty much everything working ok, but authentication is required to mount usb flash - how to set it so that no authentication would be needed?
[13:41] <OerHeks> JokeArt, maybe you neet to update
[13:41] <OerHeks> need*
[13:41] <JokeArt> i'm using 14.04
[13:42] <OerHeks> !info linux-sound-base trusty
[13:42] <JokeArt> i'm trying to update
[13:42] <JokeArt> but this error pop-up
[13:42] <cfhowlett> JokeArt, optional.
[13:44] <compdoc> JokeArt, what happens if you try:  sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base
[13:44] <JokeArt>  sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base
[13:44] <JokeArt> Reading package lists... Done
[13:44] <JokeArt> Building dependency tree
[13:44] <JokeArt> Reading state information... Done
[13:44] <JokeArt> linux-sound-base is already the newest version.
[13:44] <JokeArt> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 63 not upgraded.
[13:45] <cfhowlett> JokeArt, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       maybe
[13:45] <compdoc> same as mine
[13:46] <JokeArt> 63 not upgraded, but when i use sudo apt-get upgrade i got that error
[13:48] <doublethinker> hello. I want to make my monitor dimmer - and better to read with. would anyone be able to help?
[13:48] <OerHeks> doublethinker, use the buttons on the monitor itself?
[13:53] <doublethinker> tnx
[13:55] <OerHeks> cantstanya, stop that please
[13:56] <somebody23> yo, I have one question a bout bash
[13:56] <__nemo__> somebody23: go
[13:56] <__nemo__> ahead
[13:56] <somebody23> I need to create a file to create .in files
[13:56] <somebody23> Let's say I have 3 columns with numbers
[13:56] <somebody23> I need to add a constant to the third column
[13:57] <OerHeks> somebody23, easy on the enter,all on one line please
[13:57] <somebody23> for example, let's say the 3rd column is made of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10. I need a script that adds 0.25 to those numbers.
[13:57] <__nemo__> somebody23: That looks like something I would have done in Python..
[13:57] <Tzunamii> somebody23: Depending on the file you need to edit, just read the file into a Bash array, edit the array and write out the array to the file again
[13:58] <ubuntu346> hello is a german people here?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !de | ubuntu346
[13:59] <ubuntu346> i need help in ubunut apt
[13:59] <OerHeks> !de
[14:00] <ubuntu936> hello, i need help in my a ubuntu 10.04
[14:00] <JokeArt> anyone can help me?
[14:00] <EriC^^> what's the problem?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> ubuntu936, you need to upgrade to a supported version.  10.04 is way end of life and unsupported
[14:00] <Predator> I think that ubuntu 10.04 is outdated
[14:01] <ubuntu936> i install the the new openssl verison and new curl version on my ubunut 10.04
[14:01] <compdoc> JokeArt, did you say it works ok when you use: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:01] <ubuntu936> is running now
[14:01] <JokeArt> i got this while using apt-get upgrade
[14:01] <JokeArt> http://pastebin.com/TaP55sct
[14:01] <ubuntu936> but php5 have the old openssl verion in where
[14:01] <compdoc> you should always use:   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu936, you are running with NO updates and NO security.  time to upgrade.
[14:02] <JokeArt> still same
[14:02] <JokeArt> i'm pasted error output on pastebin
[14:02] <JokeArt>  http://pastebin.com/TaP55sct
[14:03] <Tzunamii> JokeArt: Read what compdoc wrote, mate.
[14:05] <JokeArt> still got this error : http://pastebin.com/tYhEU0bb
[14:05] <ubuntu936> http://pastebin.com/26gHXv5d
[14:06] <JokeArt> even with dist-upgrade
[14:06] <ubuntu936> i need a php update to new ssl verison
[14:06] <xangua> !10.04 | ubuntu936
[14:06] <OerHeks> ubuntu936, 10.04 is dead, EOL, upgrade.
[14:06] <cfhowlett> ubuntu936, not sure if you're trolling or just stubborn.  UPGRADE.   10.04 is dead.  DEAD.
[14:06] <OerHeks> ubuntu936, no use for asking support for an unsupported version
[14:06] <compdoc> JokeArt, did you add repos for some package, once upon a time?
[14:07] <JokeArt> wait a minute
[14:08] <JokeArt> no,
[14:09] <JokeArt> i didn't
[14:10] <cfhowlett> JokeArt, do this: more /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[14:10] <ubuntu936> can i update my server from 10 to 14, is this possible
[14:11] <OerHeks> ubuntu936, 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04 yes
[14:11] <OerHeks> You might considder reinstall fresh
[14:12] <JokeArt> http://pastebin.com/em4CPH05
[14:12] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | ubuntu936,
[14:22] <ubuntu936> ok, distr update is running now
[14:26] <JokeArt> fixed
[14:26] <JokeArt> thank's mate
[14:33] <linux_hacker> How much longer until any Ubuntu release under 14.10 reaches EOL?
[14:34] <xangua> linux_hacker: the end of this month
[14:35] <linux_hacker> OK
[14:35] <xangua> sorry, the next one
[14:36] <neldogz> can someone help me understand what the + does in the following command: date +%u
[14:36] <linux_hacker> Wow, that would be a lot of old releases dying. How are you guys going to keep up with updates for 14.04 and up, while also managing the EOL process for all of the older releases?
[14:38] <OerHeks> linux_hacker, gladly we are not alone, teams will keep up
[14:39] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, not to mention the elves - wait, is that secret info?
[14:39] <linux_hacker> Which Ubuntu release will die after July?. I bet it would be a really old one
[14:40] <xangua> the gnomes
[14:40] <OerHeks> linux_hacker, why do you ask?
[14:40] <xangua> linux_hacker: 14.10 you said it yourself
[14:40] <cfhowlett> xangua, doh!  I always get those confused.
[14:40] <OerHeks> linux_hacker, time to read yourself https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:41] <reddeath68> can someone help me I just did a fresh install of 14.04.2 and installed fglrx and had a system freeze upon viewing xorg log I see these three lines
[14:41] <reddeath68> 25.517] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[14:41] <reddeath68> [    25.517] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[14:41] <reddeath68> [    25.517] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[14:43] <OerHeks> reddeath68, next time use paste.ubuntu.com
[14:43] <OerHeks> reddeath68, so how did you install fglrx ?
[14:43] <reddeath68> sudo apt-get -f install fglrx-amdcccle
[14:43] <OerHeks> that would only install the tool, go on with "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[14:44] <reddeath68> o i see someone else had told me that would install fglrx and core all at once as dependencies for amdcccle
[14:46] <cfhowlett> reddeath68, that guy "someone else" has been known to give spotty advice at times ...
[14:46] <OerHeks> sounds logical, but it does not.
[14:46] <reddeath68> when i run the fglrx install cmd I assume I should stop lightdm from a ttyl like I did initially?
[14:46] <niko__> hola
[14:46] <niko__> ??
[14:47] <OerHeks> reddeath68, sounds oke
[14:47] <niko__> hola??
[14:47] <reddeath68> ok will try that do i need to rerun aticonfig --initial again as well?
[14:47] <ElelElelElel> hola
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !es | Nik05
[14:47] <cfhowlett> niko__, read ^^^
[14:48] <niko__> ok
[14:48] <ElelElelElel> spic
[14:48] <cfhowlett> ElelElelElel, stop now.
[14:48] <asarch> Why are the mirrors so sloooooooow?
[14:48] <rockey_> Hello
[14:49] <ElelElelElel> hahaha
[14:49] <ElelElelElel> racial slurs
[14:49] <Hardtail> hello
[14:50] <OerHeks> !ot > ElelElelElel
[14:51] <Nik05> cfhowlett im not spanish
[14:51] <cfhowlett> Nik05, I know.  fat fingers error.   it was for niko__
[14:52] <Nik05> oke
[14:55] <reddeath68> so will i need to rerun aticonfig --initial after i run the fglrx install cmd?
[14:55] <Drekbeer> Hello. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 on a server and trying to free up some space on /boot by removing old kernels. When I try to purge a kernel I get an error about unmet dependencies: "linux-server : Depends: linux-headers-server (= 3.2.0.85.99) but 3.2.0.86.100 is to be installed" how would I able to fix this?
[14:56] <OerHeks> Drekbeer, there is a simple script to remove unused kernels
[14:58] <OerHeks> dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[14:58] <Drekbeer> @OerHeks that results in the exact same error message
[14:59] <Drekbeer> with "linux-headers-server : Depends: linux-headers-3.2.0-86-generic but it is not going to be installed" added to it
[14:59] <OerHeks> Drekbeer, did you reboot after latest kernel install ?
[15:00] <Drekbeer> I'm pretty sure I did, I'll perform a reboot to be sure
[15:05] <drericcity> hello guys
[15:05] <drericcity> hey guys
[15:05] <Vespero> Does anyone know if there's a way to pause/resume Testdisk when it's making a disk image?
[15:05] <Drekbeer> @OerHeks just rebooted and still get the same errors. To be sure you understand what is going on, here's the full console log of both the remove kernel script and "apt-get -f install": https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5aa2306d89ea6ea25a83
[15:05] <drericcity> how can I connect wireless internet with vmware??
[15:06] <Vespero> I'm trying to make an image for some data recovery, but it's going to take like... 100+ days
[15:06] <reddeath68> OerHeks, after installing fglrx should I rerun aitconfig --initial?
[15:06] <magalhaes> aonde posso encontrar dicas e titurias sobre ubuntu
[15:06] <drericcity> How can I connect my wireless network with vmware?
[15:07] <OerHeks> Drekbeer, line 47 no spaceleft on the drive ...
[15:07] <magalhaes> oi
[15:07] <Drekbeer> OerHeks, yea that's pretty much the reason I'm trying to purge the old kernels...
[15:07] <BrunoPT> magalhaes: #ubuntu-pt
[15:07] <xangua> !it | magalhaes
[15:07] <OerHeks> reddeath68, not sure that is needed , i have no ati card for a long time
[15:08] <xangua> oh I fail
[15:08] <reddeath68> hmm i know the cmd generates fresh xorg.conf file and backs up current one and i ran the cmd after the initial install of cccle
[15:09] <magalhaes> qual aplicativo uso pra desinstalar sofwares no ubuntu
[15:10] <xangua> !pt | magalhaes you can use the Software Centre
[15:10] <stacks88> im not sure if this is a ubuntu specific thing, becuase i run ubuntu on most of my servers.. but in file.txt i have a word "sentence" , so when i do grep sentence file.txt it comes up as red, like this: http://i.imgur.com/lpHTZHS.png -- my question is how can i get this red highlighted thing going on another system thats not ubuntu? Is it a nano specific thing? or is it something in my bash
[15:10] <stacks88> rc? cause on that system when i do grep sentence file.txt it doesnt highlight in red. so im just trying to get the red highlight going
[15:12] <reddeath68> i guess ill just rerun the cmd to be safe
[15:12] <reddeath68> ill bb if i have issues after the fglrx cmd
[15:12] <SchrodingersScat> stacks88: is it a grep thing maybe?  ps aux | grep grep = grep --color=auto grep
[15:12] <stacks88> ah yeah grep color didnt reealize, makes snse, thank you
[15:16] <Drekbeer> OerHeks, any idea how I would be able to fix this? Basically I want to free up space but am not able to because I am out of space?
[15:18] <btorch> is there a kickstart channel for ubuntun ?
[15:19] <SchrodingersScat> !kickstart | btorch
[15:20] <shingshang> is it common for the 15.04 installer to get stuck whilke "preparing to install ubuntu"?
[15:20] <shingshang> particularly in the "for best results, please ensure that this computer: blah blah" section
[15:21] <shingshang> like it's stuck there doing nothing, is there a way to make it show what it's doing at all?
[15:21] <Cerealkiller> shingshang, i didn't encounter any errors from installing 15.04 ,maybe it's hardware related?
[15:22] <shingshang> well I can't tell when it's just sitting there on the waiting cursor :/
[15:22] <shingshang> maybe it's the "download updates while installing"?
[15:22] <Cerealkiller> right,what version,the 64 bit one or the 32?
[15:22] <shingshang> 32 bit
[15:23] <Cerealkiller> uncheck download updates while installing and try again
[15:23] <Cerealkiller> but,you konow if you have other versions you can upgrade
[15:23] <shingshang> other versions? like 14.04?
[15:24] <Cerealkiller> yeah
[15:24] <shingshang> hmm, reason I'm installing 15.04 is because I couldn't get optimus graphics working on 14.04
[15:24] <reddeath68> wellim back it told me fglrx was already installed to i ran sudo apt-get -f install --reinstall fglrx and still seeing same erros in log which can be found here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11745892/
[15:24] <Cerealkiller> hmm,i see
[15:25] <shingshang> there's conflicting information everywhere on whether optimus works or not
[15:25] <shingshang> I thought in 2015 this whole graphics drivers issue will be gone
[15:25] <shingshang> how wrong I was
[15:26] <Cerealkiller> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[15:26] <Cerealkiller> maybe check this thread?
[15:26] <shingshang> thanks, that is yet another page about optimus I encountered
[15:27] <shingshang> I'm gonna try install nvidia-prime first thing after installation finishes though
[15:28] <shingshang> also, it's waiting for a long time yet again at the "preparing to install ubuntu: for best results blah blah blah"
[15:31] <reddeath68> so can someone help me figure out why my log is telling me im missing parts of fglrx?
[15:36] <Cerealkiller> shingshang, good luck :)
[15:36] <shingshang> thanks, I'll need it
[15:37] <shingshang> also, the ubuntu/download/desktop page says 64 bit is recommended, yet releases.ubuntu.com/vivid says that 32-bit PC is "for almost all PCs"
[15:37] <shingshang> what is the right answer? I got an intel 4710MQ processor
[15:39] <Apachez> http://istodaythedaymartymcflyarriveswhenhetravelstothefuture.com/
[15:40] <Cerealkiller> yeah shingshang ,but how much ram do you have?
[15:40] <shingshang> 32GB
[15:40] <Cerealkiller> i mean,what are your specs?
[15:40] <SCHAAP137> nice, 24GB here
[15:40] <Cerealkiller> i'd reccomend using 64bit,34 bit are for machines with low ram
[15:41] <SCHAAP137> yeah, use 64 bit
[15:41] <Cerealkiller> i mean,i'm running 64bit and i only have 6gb ram
[15:41] <shingshang> GTX970m optimus, 4710MQ and 32GB ram with a bunch of other high-end specs I guess
[15:41] <darthanubis> only
[15:41] <shingshang> sigh, yet another 1gb download for the 64 bit version then
[15:41] <OerHeks> reddeath68, for what ati card exactly ? lspci | grep VGA
[15:41] <SCHAAP137> 4790K here
[15:41] <SCHAAP137> 4.6 GHz
[15:42] <Cerealkiller> shingshang, that's neat,go ahead and try the 64 bit one :)
[15:42] <SCHAAP137> still only 31 C in idle
[15:42] <shingshang> mine's a laptop though, not sure if I should overclock it
[15:42] <SCHAAP137> with a laptop that might be a bad idea, true
[15:43] <reddeath68> OerHeks, 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Trinity [Radeon HD 7660D]
[15:43] <Cerealkiller> well,your specs look preety good,there's no need to overclock it ,i think,plus side it will get hot as hell
[15:43] <shingshang> heh, it's smack dab in the middle of winter at the moment
[15:44] <Cerealkiller> where are you from ? :)\
[15:44] <shingshang> also, I won't be running intensive programs on it, just VMware with either windows or linux to get the two OS's at the same time
[15:44] <shingshang> Sydney
[15:44] <Cerealkiller> oh well,that;s understandable
[15:45] <shingshang> hmm, installing ubuntu might be a good exercise for anger management classes
[15:45] <Cerealkiller> why tho?
[15:45] <SCHAAP137> nah, it's too easy
[15:45] <SCHAAP137> it's basically next next finish
[15:45] <Cerealkiller> i have installed ubuntu on two of my machines and i didn't have any trouble with it so far :)
[15:45] <shingshang> I guess results vary
[15:45] <shingshang> but it's been infuriating
[15:45] <Cerealkiller> it's preety straight forward
[15:45] <Cerealkiller> to be honest
[15:46] <shingshang> on my desktop it was
[15:46] <shingshang> but on this laptop, it's been nothing but hell and pain
[15:46] <shingshang> and tears if I could shed some
[15:46] <Cerealkiller> what laptop is it?
[15:46] <shingshang> a sager/clevo laptop
[15:46] <shingshang> so that stuck during installation problem was one, the other thing I dread is trying to get the graphics drivers working
[15:47] <Cerealkiller> did you try the additional drivers?
[15:47] <shingshang> I went through 14.04 earlier yesterday trying to get it to work, and the whole day was spent googling solutions
[15:47] <Cerealkiller> see if it finds any
[15:47] <shingshang> yeah
[15:47] <shingshang> it didn't recognize the graphics card
[15:47] <Cerealkiller> oh
[15:47] <shingshang> apparently bumblebee screws up your installation or something
[15:48] <hplc> anyone who knows the correct syntax for debsums scripting one-liner for search and replace broken or missing packages?, i cant figure it, and the example in man debsums doesnt seem to work
[15:48] <Cerealkiller> yeah,i mean you have to use google for things but,after all it's more secure than Windows
[15:48] <shingshang> well, amongst the many conflicting infos ranging from 1 to 3 year old
[15:48] <shingshang> I need ubuntu for my work, so I have to get this done
[15:48] <Cerealkiller> right
[15:48] <OerHeks> shingshang, nvidia 970 is supported by the 343.22 driver and up http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/77844/en-us
[15:49] <OerHeks> shingshang, if standard nvidia driver does not work, use xorg edgers ppa for the latest nvidia blob
[15:49] <shingshang> OerHeks: does that mean 343.22 and newer, or only 343?
[15:49] <OerHeks> 343 and newer
[15:49] <shingshang> oh yeah, I tried installing 352 earlier, but the nvidia installer says "graphics card not recognized"
[15:50] <Cerealkiller> have you tried asking on the forums/
[15:50] <shingshang> I'll be tyring again under 15.04, or at least try with sudo apt-get first
[15:50] <OerHeks> shingshang, where did you get that 352 driver?
[15:50] <shingshang> askubuntu.com? I put a question there
[15:50] <shingshang> OerHeks: nvidia.com somewhere?
[15:50] <shingshang> something that ends with .run
[15:50] <OerHeks> ugh, never use that .run driver, go for https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:51] <OerHeks> you won't get updates and any new kernel needs a reinstall of that driver, hopeless
[15:51] <shingshang> ah right
[15:51] <shingshang> maybe I shouldn't rely on google for ubuntu installation advice
[15:53] <Cerealkiller> shingshang, you should,but as there are sites where the information is true,there are also sites where the information is false :)
[15:53] <shingshang> and that's the problem
[15:53] <Cerealkiller> yeah,it's preety confusing
[15:54] <shingshang> is there such thing as paid support for ubuntu, by canonical?
[15:54] <Cerealkiller> i think there is for the ubuntu server but not so sure about desktop
[15:54] <Duke2410> hello, i have verson 12.04 and i need help for php5 SSL version
[15:56] <OerHeks> shingshang, yes, http://www.ubuntu.com/management/ubuntu-advantage > from 5 desktops and up
[15:57] <shingshang> hmm, 825 pounds
[15:59] <gagalicious> i'm about to migrate from centos to ubuntu mostly because of the bells and whistles... (which i do need for some of my applications)... is this a wrong choice or do i need to wait until everything is really stable? how stable is ubuntu as a server? and how often do things break?
[15:59] <xangua> gagalicious: bells and whistles¿ LTS releases are very stable
[16:00] <k1l_> gagalicious: ubuntu is fine as a server. go with the 14.04 LTS that got still 4 years support and is already stable
[16:00] <Cerealkiller> gagalicious, stuff is preety stable on 15.04
[16:00] <Cerealkiller> or yeah,get 14.04 long term support
[16:00] <gagalicious> no no.. 14.04 only. i dont trust anything not LTS
[16:00] <k1l_> on the other versions you need to upgrade every 6 months. so LTS is the way for servers
[16:00] <Cerealkiller> well i'm off..ttyl guys
[16:01] <reddeath68> OerHeks, any ideas to my fglrx problem? this is a fresh install not even a day old
[16:01] <gagalicious> but seriously, my confidence is a bit waivered... when the LTS is only two years. coz Centos 6 is til 2020.. i'm not trying to flame a war here i'm using both. ubuntu desktop and centos server... and some of my minor things are on ubuntu server.
[16:02] <xangua> gagalicious: you were just told 14.04 has 4 more years of support
[16:02] <gagalicious> xangua : ok.
[16:03] <k1l_> gagalicious: LTS is 5 years support. but every 2years there is a new one. so the "old" still got 3 years support left
[16:03] <k1l_> so you got 3 years to plan the upgrade to the next lts :)
[16:04] <btorch> so if one setup a kickstart to get ubuntu installed and it has it properly setup to answer everything, then one should not need any video display right ?
[16:04] <rypervenche> btorch: Correct (called preseed in the Debian-based world)
[16:04] <btorch> kickstarting 14.02 server an several embedded device
[16:04] <btorch> rypervenche: cool thanks
[16:05] <k1l_> gagalicious: maybe this picture clears it up: http://media-cdn.ubuntu-de.org/wiki/attachments/43/13/Ubuntu-Zeitleiste_15.04.png
[16:08] <gagalicious> i've used ubuntu from 9 onwards... skipped 10 before moving to 11.04... which i've used for the past 3 years. very solid... everything between 14 and 11... i didnt use coz... flakiness as desktop. after 11, i'm back on 14.04... coz of docker... it's kind of strange since i'm from centos server background. because this server style is very strange for me.
[16:09] <gagalicious> i dont understand why odd numbers are not LTS... coz 11.04 is the most solid desktop i've come across in most ubuntu versions.
[16:09] <gagalicious> o'
[16:10] <gagalicious> i'm still using now... never breaks
[16:10] <OerHeks> gagalicious, heh, 11.04 without poodle/heartbleed fix, good choise !
[16:10] <Pazooza> I find the same thing with 14.04
[16:11] <Myrtti> because releasing an LTS every year would amount a lot of work for keeping the security updates and other updates in?
[16:11] <gagalicious> yeah. 14.04 is also very solid
[16:11] <k1l_> gagalicious: 11.04 is dead long time
[16:11] <gagalicious> ok
[16:12] <reddeath68> my system would be fine if i can get my graphics drivers to work right ati is a pain
[16:12] <gagalicious> that's why i'm here... coz i'm complaining the fact that i'm upgrading all my 11.04s to 14.04s ...
[16:12] <gagalicious> reddeath68 : yeah... i know what u mean
[16:12] <gagalicious> video driver is the worst part of ubuntu
[16:12] <Myrtti> I'm afraid to ask this gagalicious, but how were you planning to upgrade them?
[16:12] <k1l_> gagalicious: honestly: make a re-install
[16:12] <gagalicious> of linux... i mean. not ubuntu but ubuntu's the best
[16:12] <gagalicious> in terms of compatibility to graphic cards
[16:13] <gagalicious> Myrtti : through pxe booting
[16:13] <k1l_> gagalicious: from 11.04 you need to upgrade to 11.10 then 12.04 and then lts upgrade to 14.04. so reinstall is way faster
[16:13] <gagalicious> reinstall new 14.04... then transfer all 11.04 files across
[16:14] <ubuntu365> gagalicious: Dude it is the manufactures providing drivers not linux, do the research not just spew fud.
[16:15] <gagalicious> ubuntu365: yeah... but u also need to get the right version to match the right ubuntu flavour... which for NVIDIA... doesnt seem to be the case
[16:15] <reddeath68> 14.04.2 seems to be giving me more trouble then it worth with regards to graphics drivers they worked fine before the .2 stack
[16:15] <ubuntu365> sigh
[16:15] <FierceDeityLink> http://pastebin.com/7nm3zdAj what exactly does this mean? other than omg frustration
[16:15] <reddeath68> now fresh install and they still not working right
[16:15] <k1l_> gagalicious: ubuntu ships nvidia drivers.
[16:15] <gagalicious> kll_ : 14.04 yeah.. not 11.04 i mean
[16:15] <ubuntu365> reminds me why being here is more of a pain than it's worth
[16:15] <gagalicious> i meant
[16:16] <gagalicious> reddeath68: i know exactly what u mean
[16:16] <gagalicious> try telling that to ubuntu365
[16:17] <compdoc> JokeArt, did you get it fixed?
[16:17] <k1l_> FierceDeityLink: apt-cache policy ppp gives you what?
[16:18] <FierceDeityLink> checking
[16:18] <JokeArt> nope
[16:18] <reddeath68> if anyone can help me after installing fglrx i had a xorg lockup  had to hard reboot(forgot to enable sysrq) and log shows 3 lines of errors
[16:18] <reddeath68> heres the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/11745892/
[16:18] <FierceDeityLink> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/1t00umkD
[16:18] <JokeArt> got this error : unable to open files list file for package `gvfs-libs:amd64': No such device or address
[16:18] <k1l_> FierceDeityLink: well, for debian support better ask in #debian
[16:19] <FierceDeityLink> oh dear
[16:19] <FierceDeityLink> doesn't ubuntu use apt-get?
[16:19] <k1l_> FierceDeityLink: yes, but we dont know what the debian repos want the packages to be like to work. please ask the specialists there
[16:19] <FierceDeityLink> k1l_, they'll send me to #edgeos who will send me back here lol
[16:19] <FierceDeityLink> lol specialists
[16:20] <k1l_> FierceDeityLink: here is just plain wrong. please seek the proper support of your OS
[16:20] <FierceDeityLink> lol if it were up to me i'd put gentoo on my edge router :)
[16:20] <FierceDeityLink> oh wait...it is....
[16:21] <OerHeks> reddeath68, same xorg log
[16:21] <yt2> hello
[16:22] <FierceDeityLink> k1l_, the problem is i ran apt-get upgrade and it crashed in the middle and now it's stuck. figured i'd ask for help but i see this is one of the less friendly channels on freenode :(
[16:23] <yt2> hi guys is this the support channel for ubuntu?
[16:23] <ioria> FierceDeityLink, what cpu do you have ?
[16:23] <k1l_> FierceDeityLink: dont tell me i wasnt friendly. i could just swing the banhammer since you are intentionally making offtopic support in here why other ubuntu users need help. so please ask the guys who can help you with that.
[16:23] <k1l_> *while
[16:24] <reddeath68> OerHeks, yes it is im saying i dont have a solution yet after reinstalling fglrx hoping someone knows of a way to fix it
[16:24] <FierceDeityLink> ioria, mips
[16:24] <OerHeks> FierceDeityLink, we are so friendly, that we direct you to the right support channel, as we don'tknow about debian/packages in your situation, thanks for the rant!
[16:24] <ioria> FierceDeityLink, that's the issue maybe
[16:24] <yt2> haha
[16:24] <FierceDeityLink> its not a debian issue, its a package manager issue. the debian channel is dead and google is too
[16:24] <yt2> iguest iwas on the wrong room
[16:24] <OerHeks> FierceDeityLink, wrong.
[16:24] <yt2> iguess
[16:25] <ioria> FierceDeityLink, your dpkg seeks for ppp:mips
[16:25] <k1l_> FierceDeityLink: we already explained this. now please seek the proper supportchannel for this non ubuntu OS issue. thanks
[16:26] <OerHeks> reddeath68, maybe you want/need to enable HWE, not sure about that.
[16:26] <OerHeks> !hwe
[16:27]  * OerHeks wonders if it is 12.04 only
[16:28] <oriol> hi, good afternoon
[16:28] <oriol> do you know any way to pair a garmin vivofit with ubuntu os using garmin ant+ stick usb ?
[16:28] <reddeath68> OerHeks, how would i enable hwe?
[16:29] <k1l_> !enablementstack | reddeath68
[16:31] <reddeath68> using the cmd provided on the link sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-utopic xserver-xorg-lts-utopic libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-utopic libegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-utopic
[16:31] <reddeath68> i have all of those up to date....
[16:31] <SohamG> Hey guys i'm currently running ubuntu 14.04 unity and somehow managed to turn on this read-everything-on-screen thing. How do i disbale it?(I tried apt-get remove gnome-orca)
[16:33] <SohamG> reddeath68, ^^^
[16:33] <OerHeks> SohamG,  From the manual for Orca: Insert+Q = quit orca.
[16:35] <reddeath68> SohamG, am i missing something
[16:35] <k1l_> reddeath68: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[16:35] <reddeath68> it gives me Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[16:36] <SohamG> OerHeks, now working........I pressed the insert key on the keyboard and the q key.....didnt do away...
[16:36] <k1l_> reddeath68: ok, so that is the latest official stack. you could try the vivid one which will be official in august and is in the repos just now.
[16:36] <kingeR> Hi, I have ubuntu 12 VPS, and i cant start nginx. When i check on command nginx -t it finds file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf, but somehow when i try to opet it with vim, I get empty file
[16:37] <k1l_> SohamG: maybe logout and click on the menu icon in the panel there to shut it off.
[16:37] <reddeath68> kil_ any idea how vivid works with fglrx?
[16:38] <k1l_> reddeath68: all ubuntus work with fglrx. its just the question what exact card you got and if there is a known issue.
[16:38] <SohamG> k1l_, I've done apt-get purge and apt-get remove for gnome-orca.....so...
[16:38] <k1l_> SohamG: might be removed from the running system just after relogin
[16:39]  * k1l_ is afk now so please ask the channel for further help
[16:39] <oriol> do you know any way to pair a garmin vivofit with ubuntu os using garmin ant+ stick usb ?
[16:39] <reddeath68> my card is 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Trinity [Radeon HD 7660D] which is technically a imbedded apu on my msi motherboard
[16:39] <oriol> tried installing garmin-ant-downloader
[16:39] <oriol> dont work
[16:41] <molgrum> is vestige disabled in LMMS currently?
[16:46] <yt2> hello
[16:46] <yt2> ..
[16:52] <kingeR> How to solve this: Not starting NGINX as it is disabled in config ubuntu 12 server
[16:56] <Dresk> So I've been running Ubuntu for about 6 months now, switched from a RedHat-based distro, and now I've made my first secondary account for people to SSH in, but I'd like to get advice on how to permission a user in "Ubuntu best practices" for example, preventing them from accessing other user home folders
[16:59] <grinchier> i'd like to know too
[17:00] <grinchier> Dresk: how do you do it in redhat?
[17:00] <Dresk> grinchier: chmodding via groups primarily, the old school method, didn't know if anything new was introduced
[17:01] <grinchier> so chmod 700?  don't think so
[17:07] <grinchier> Dresk: i'm reading about this program called jailkit?
[17:07] <grinchier> maybe something worth a look
[17:07] <Dresk> Taking a look-see
[17:08] <Flannel> Dresk: just normal, boring, everyday permissions should suffice?  If not, what are you trying to prevent beyond that?
[17:08] <Dresk> Flannel: Ah just looking to make it easier, I mean really I think most people agree users shouldn't have RO to other user folders, didn't know if any modern programs were starting to streamline this
[17:08] <mhahe> hello all, I accidentally deleted all images in my /boot. I cant update and upgrade the images since there is a dependency missing between my current version and the available one. any ideas?
[17:10] <grinchier> Dresk: rbash is another option,  but many users report ways to bash through it lol
[17:10] <Flannel> Dresk: What doesn't suffice about normal permissions?
[17:10] <Dresk> Flannel: Normal permissions work fine, but I goof up plenty in doing them
[17:11] <grinchier> there is a little tutorial on jailkit here  http://askubuntu.com/questions/93411/simple-easy-way-to-jail-users
[17:13] <Dresk> "ailkit is a set of utilities that can limit user accounts to a specific directory tree and to specific commands. Setting up a jail is much easier using the Jailkit utilities that doing so 'by hand'. A jail is a directory tree that you create within your file system; the user cannot see any directories or files that are outside the jail directory. The user is jailed in that directory and it subdirectories."
[17:13] <Dresk> Hm, seems nice
[17:15] <grinchier> in theory
[17:16] <n1ghtmar3> hi
[17:17] <grinchier> it seems some people suggest apparmor
[17:17] <grinchier> apparmor with jailbash,  that sounds more complicated
[17:18] <grinchier> http://blog.cryptomilk.org/2011/09/02/jailbash/
[17:18] <grinchier> 2011 lol
[17:20] <grinchier> well that jailkit is 3-1-2014 latest update,  not so bad for a security tool
[17:20] <n1ghtmar3> yep i've heard about
[17:27] <awesomeone554> hello?
[17:33] <Cerealkill3r> Hey guys,what's up?
[17:33] <lord_daemon> Studying :D
[17:33] <grinchier> sup
[17:34] <Cerealkill3r> not much,preety bored
[17:34] <lord_daemon> :~~
[17:37] <Cerealkill3r> soo,where you guys from?
[17:39] <grinchier> usa and you?
[17:39] <Cerealkill3r> romania
[17:39] <grinchier> cool
[17:39] <Cerealkill3r> yeah
[17:39] <grinchier> where in romania?
[17:39] <Cerealkill3r> Oradea
[17:39] <Cerealkill3r> what about you?
[17:40] <grinchier> ny
[17:40] <Cerealkill3r> that's nice
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> !ot | Cerealkill3r grinchier
[17:46] <flexus> any jackdbus guy on? need help with alsa_out:  i got it running and it works basically, but it needs to be active when audiojack is plugged in. if i connect a cable to the 3mm port it gets muted. PA module-switch-on-connect is active
[17:47] <leafybasil> Hey all got a strange problem, using dwm, and calling an init script before hand to do things like set key repeat rate and keyboard layout, some of the commands get processed fine, some I still need to run manually after logging in, does anyone know why?
[17:48] <em> How well do you think ubuntu or some variant of ubuntu would run on this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T400-14-2-53GHz-Intel-Core-2-Duo-T9400-3GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-/351430937428
[17:54] <necs> Hello
[17:56] <necs> Why could it be that when i play videos in fullscreen the video gets choppy?  I cant find a pattern with it. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt
[17:57] <compdoc> maybe the video or sound driver, or low end hardware
[17:58] <necs> compdoc: If the video is in the same resolution? Why could it be?
[17:59] <necs> compdoc: Never though about the sound driver. The hardware is a toshiba laptop l305d s5897 with 4 gb or ram and dual core amd processor
[18:01] <grinchier> necs: html5 usually plays much better then flash for certain sites
[18:01] <necs> grinchier: Ita youtube but i cant get 720p with html5
[18:02] <DJJeff> I found package "libgd2-xpm" in precise but I run trusty
[18:02] <OerHeks> necs It all depends on the videocard, ATI Radeon X1250 is very old ( if i am correct that is what your machine got)
[18:04] <bunty> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu 13.10 rarring on my nexus 7, but I am facing problems. Anybody has any idea about ubuntu on tablet? ( I had ubuntu touch but I want ubuntu desktop on my tablet)
[18:04] <necs> OerHeks: Yes its old but i dont get it why i can play the video in 720p in fullscreen flawlessly but i cant sometimes. Cant find a pattern.
[18:05] <OerHeks> necs, sounds like systemload, close browsers and such.
[18:05] <necs> OerHeks: I did
[18:05] <necs> Only youtube and irc is working
[18:06] <OerHeks> necs, i have no other answer, low specs give vary result.
[18:07] <necs> OerHeks: Thats weird. Well could it be related with the sound driver?
[18:07] <OerHeks> necs, no, i doubt that
[18:08] <ibouvousaime> Hello I have a question for you : Whats the package that provide support for ext3 file system ?
[18:10] <OerHeks> ibouvousaime, e2fslibs and e2fsprogs
[18:12] <ibouvousaime> THANKS OerHeks
[18:12] <jimcornette> I have a disk that I make with dd that is 3 gigs big.  I partition it with a swap boot and a rootfs.  then make a image.  Here is where the issue is. After creating the image I try to use resizsefs both from the command line but also from gparted and it will not let me shrink it down (rootfs) there is only about 1.3 gigs of data on the rootfs.  not sure why it is saying that the min size is 2.7 gigs
[18:13] <hajer> hhhh
[18:16] <rypervenche> jimcornette: Can you show us the exact command(s) you're using and the output in a oastebin please?
[18:16] <jimcornette> rypervenche,  sure give me a second
[18:18] <Beck> how do I install wine in lubuntu
[18:18] <rypervenche> jimcornette: Also a df -hT please
[18:19] <jimcornette> rypervenche,  the thing that makes the image http://pastebin.com/hcpnMJuX
[18:19] <Beck> I need a command to install wine in Lubuntu
[18:20] <OerHeks> Beck, open your softwarecenter,, and search for wine?
[18:20] <Beck> a sudo command
[18:20] <ProstheticS> hmm, ive jsut swapped over from fedora to ubuntu, im running fallout new vegas in wine, which wasnt a problem in fedora, and isnt in ubuntu, but im getting a weird efect in ubuntu, its like its pulsing my frame rate, but really smoothly. so that all frames within a second, come thorugh in the first half of said second, and then it slows down untill the next pulse
[18:20] <jimcornette> rypervenche, please hold while I take pictures from remote
[18:20] <ProstheticS> (im using the same wine virtual drive because i didnt remove my home directory)
[18:20] <rypervenche> jimcornette: Oh, this is very specific. I'm not going to be able to help from my phone.
[18:21] <OerHeks> Beck, sudo apt-get install <package>
[18:21] <ProstheticS> anyone ever had this weird pulsing in wine, its happening to a few games that i use wine for, since i swapped
[18:21] <ObrienDave> ProstheticS, that would be a wine issue, #winehq
[18:23] <DJJeff> I found package "libgd2-xpm" in precise but I run trusty
[18:24] <DJJeff> I need this package to run a game I found online
[18:24] <jimcornette> Here is gparted error http://i.imgur.com/pAYRTHM.png  http://i.imgur.com/201bhva.png
[18:26] <ioria> !info libgd2-xpm-dev trusty
[18:30] <O_Andrew> Hello there friends! I forgot my password on an ubuntu 14.04 machine, I tried booting into recovery, but instead of showing the recovery menu, it just goes into the login screen normally (?), are there any other boot options i can set in order to reset my password?
[18:31] <em> this channel is much less active than I remember it being back in 'the day'.
[18:32] <O_Andrew> em: maybe this just means that less peopel are having problems with ubuntu? :-) Although this is kinda -offtopic
[18:32] <ioria> O_Andrew, you should enter grub with shift ... it's Ubu the only OS ?
[18:34] <rypervenche> !password | O_Andrew
[18:34] <em> DJJeff: this is a little bit experimental so don't just take my word for it but depending on its dependencies you could try getting the package manually from the website it is on.. probably looks like package-name.deb and then use: sudo dpkg -i on it
[18:37] <osman> hello
[18:37] <osman> muslims
[18:37] <osman> ramadaaaaan
[18:37] <osman> alahuekber
[18:37] <osman> ĆĆ
[18:37] <OerHeks> !ot > osman
[18:37] <O_Andrew> rypervenche, appending init=/bin/bash into the boot options did the trick! Thank you!
[18:42] <ProstheticS> obrien: btw, it was an ubuntu issue , which ive fixed now. you shouldnt just see the word wine and assume that its a wine fault so they should deal
[18:42] <ProstheticS> but regardless, im just happy my problems fixed :D
[18:45] <ObrienDave> ProstheticS, you kept mentioning wine. if you want better answers, please supply better !details
[18:48] <Proksima> I just finished setup a PXE server and a PXE client in VMs. My PXE server also host a DHCP server that works for all devices in my house (they have internet access). However, while all the network settings of the PXE client (ip, router's ip, dns servers, etc.) seems accurate,  it   cannot access external websites (but see all the devices in the int
[18:48] <Proksima> ernal network). Not sure if it is relevant, but since DHCP discovery is done before boot, I have set NetworkManager so that it does not try to manage my  network connection. Any idea on how to allow my clients to access internet?
[18:48] <shingshang> is there any way to disable these "system program problem detected" windows?
[18:49] <ioria> clear /var/crash
[18:49] <shingshang> but what if /var/crash gets repopulated again
[18:50] <ioria> with the same error ?
[18:50] <bekks> clear it
[18:50] <shingshang> yeah, gnome-panel crashes every now and then it seems
[18:50] <bunty> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu 13.10 rarring on my nexus 7, but I am facing problems. Anybody has any idea about ubuntu on tablet?
[18:51] <bekks> 13.10 is not supported anymore.
[18:51] <ioria> shingshang, gnome flash-back ?
[18:52] <bekks> !raring > bunty
[18:52] <ObrienDave> BTW anyone missing seeing * for password feedback; http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/ubuntu-display-asterisks-when-typing-password-terminal/
[18:52] <shingshang> ioria: gnome-panel, not flash-back. anyways, I disabled apport
[18:52] <shingshang> so that'll probably get rid of the error reporter
[18:52] <ioria> shingshang, also with guest account ?
[18:53] <shingshang> ioria: I have no idea what you're talking about
[18:53] <OerHeks> bunty, join #ubuntu-touch for nexus support
[18:53] <ioria> shingshang, you can create a new user or you can try the guest account ... to test if the problem is related to your personal settings
[18:54] <blz> On ubuntu 14.04, the process/service manager is upstart, correct?
[18:54] <bunty> OerHeks: I had ubuntu touch but no support for RTSP so trying ubunut desktop on tablet
[18:54] <jimcornette> bunty, this is with mutli rom and super su ?
[18:55] <jimcornette> IE dual and triple boot ?
[18:55] <jimcornette> quad boot haveever many boots you want that is.
[18:55] <jimcornette> how *
[18:56] <amanthakur> Hi guys, I have installed Ubuntu 14. But My ubuntu keeps displaying me that "System program problem detected. Send report?" Can anyone tell me how can i fix it? I have good internet connection and i can install anything from the Repositories. But i need to know what is the problem.
[18:57] <bekks> amanthakur: Which Ubuntu 14 - 14.04 or 14.10?
[18:57] <amanthakur> 14.04 LTS
[18:57] <amanthakur> bekks, 14.04 LTS
[19:00] <amanthakur> bekks, is there a way to repair my ubuntu installation with CD/DVD or Pen drive? I can use the Internet.
[19:00] <BuzzardBuzz> amanthakur: did you install all the updates from the repository already?
[19:01] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, The update daemon is crashing.
[19:02] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, the window says "It seems daemon died"
[19:02] <BuzzardBuzz> if i were you i would check the install media and you might need to reinstall
[19:02] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, can i do that without CD/DVD?
[19:03] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, can i do that without CD/DVD or without pen drive?
[19:03] <BuzzardBuzz> yes you can use a flash drive
[19:03] <amanthakur> can i do it from the internet?
[19:03] <BuzzardBuzz> what media did you install from?
[19:04] <amanthakur> it was a pen drive
[19:04] <amanthakur> 1.8 gb only
[19:04] <amanthakur> i think that's the problem that it might need a bigger pen drive
[19:04] <amanthakur> but i have only 1.8gb
[19:05] <BuzzardBuzz> let me hand you a larger drive, you can borrow it for a time
[19:05] <ObrienDave> unless you use the mini ISO, 4GB minimum for live system on pen drive
[19:06] <OerHeks> 1.1 gb, the iso is not that big
[19:06] <BuzzardBuzz> OerHeks says you are fine!
[19:06] <amanthakur> BuzzardBuzz, thanks but i'll buy it later :)
[19:07] <BuzzardBuzz> cool
[19:07] <amanthakur> OerHeks, can i install from Mini ISO and convert that installation to the ubuntu desktop???
[19:10] <gambl0re> if install a file using make install how do i uninstall it?
[19:10] <gambl0re> there is no make uninstall file
[19:11] <jimcornette> amanthakur, do you know how to use tasksel ?
[19:11] <OerHeks> gambl0re, run make uninstall
[19:11] <OerHeks> amanthakur, sure, the mini iso gives a text menu to install any desktop
[19:11] <gambl0re> run command not found
[19:11] <DJones> gambl0re: If there's no "make uninstall", then I suspect you're knackered
[19:12] <em> OerHeks: the mini iso of ubutu gives a choice of desktops?
[19:12] <OerHeks> em yes
[19:13] <jimcornette> yeah it uses tasksel I think lol
[19:13] <amanthakur> OerHeks, i just checked the pen drive using the Check For Error option from the grub. And it has issues.
[19:13] <gambl0re> ricky@vbox:~/Downloads/watchman$ sudo make uninstall
[19:13] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/bin' && rm -f watchman )
[19:13] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/share/doc/watchman-3.2.0' && rm -f README.markdown )
[19:13] <ioria> gambl0re, check the Makefile... should be a target  'uninstall', if not you have to track the make install and remove the files by hand, maybe with a script
[19:13] <em> OerHeks: does it also let you set up full disk encryption?
[19:13] <amanthakur> jimcornette, nopes sorry
[19:13] <gambl0re> does that mean i just delete the folders manually?
[19:13] <OerHeks> em, i don't know that
[19:14] <OerHeks> if it is part of the desktop installer, i think so, but not sure.
[19:14] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/share/doc/watchman-3.2.0' && rm -f README.markdown )
[19:14] <gambl0re> ricky@vbox:~/Downloads/watchman$ sudo make uninstall
[19:14] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/bin' && rm -f watchman )
[19:14] <gambl0re>  ( cd '//usr/local/share/doc/watchman-3.2.0' && rm -f README.markdown )
[19:15] <blib> how do I format my 32GB usb drive so that windows 7 can read / write to it?
[19:15] <OerHeks> gambl0re, please use paste.ubuntu.com
[19:15] <gambl0re> does that mean i just remove the folders manually?
[19:15] <blib> ubuntu 14.04 here
[19:15] <OerHeks> blib format with windows 7
[19:15] <blib> OerHeks: windows 7 only sees the 32GB drive as 2.15MB
[19:16] <gambl0re> what do those lines mean?
[19:16] <DJones> blib: In that case, you need to speak to MS support
[19:17] <DJones> blib: Ubuntu can't format in a way that Windows can see extra beyond what it believes
[19:19] <OerHeks> blib could be a fake usb drive from china too
[19:19] <OerHeks> or just broken
[19:20] <gambl0re> i see a bunch of crackers in here...
[19:23] <ObrienDave> oooooooo, racist remark
[19:23] <DJones> gambl0re: Generally, if you install something manually, the best support option is to go to the people who provided the software, #ubuntu won't know what changes/damage the software has done
[19:24] <gambl0re> i fixed it thanks..
[19:26] <ielo> hi thought you all might appreciate this cute story
[19:26] <ielo> my mum i installed linux on her computer like 5 years ago
[19:26] <ielo> anyhow she gets scammers calling her phone pretending to be ms reps telling her she has a virus
[19:27] <ielo> and she tells them i'm not using windows i'm using linux so how can i have a virus
[19:27] <ielo> and then they hanged up on her
[19:27] <ielo> another cute story for y'all
[19:27] <grinchier> lol
[19:28] <Mandeep_Singh> +1
[19:28] <ielo> when i went home i saw a hd in the garden in a pot full of water and like pond lillies
[19:28] <ielo> hardrive
[19:28] <ielo> and i asked her
[19:28] <ielo> why she did that
[19:28] <OerHeks> ielo, for storytelling join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> ielo  tell that story in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:28] <ielo> and she said she wanted to destroy the information on it
[19:28] <ielo> ok sorry
[19:28] <ielo> im done
[19:28] <potatopotato_pot> destroy all software..
[19:29] <ielo> join us now and share the software
[19:29] <gambl0re> i use to work in a call centre and i had lots of people calling in saying they had a virus from a person that called them
[19:29] <gambl0re> they target the grandmas...
[19:30] <ielo> my mum is using my sisters windows pc atm and its infected as fuck and we alwys tell her not to download stuff but ...
[19:30] <grinchier> lol
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> gambl0re  ielo stick to support questions
[19:30] <DJones> ielo: Do  you have an ubuntu support issue?  If not, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##defocus
[19:31] <bekks> ... you didnt tell her to not click on links in mails? ;)
[19:31] <grinchier> ielo  change the group policy so she can't
[19:31] <ObrienDave> !ot | ielo
[19:31] <ielo> sorry ok
[19:32] <ielo> ok just one more funny, back in the day we used to play command and conquer and the browser everyone used was konqueror and she'd get really annyed and say 'i don't know how to use this bloody command and konqueror'
[19:32] <grinchier> ielo: if you have a home version without group policy controls you can use this addon  http://iwrconsultancy.co.uk/softwarepolicy
[19:33] <DJones> ielo: Last warning, please stay on topic, "one more funny" isn't on topic
[19:34] <grinchier> who is a duppy konqueror?
[19:34] <Nietzschean> hi everyone, hope you are having a pleasant Saturday :)
[19:34] <compdoc> me me!
[19:35] <duke2410> hello all
[19:35] <duke2410> i have a problem with php5.4
[19:35] <duke2410> i installed openssql 1.0.2.c from source and curl 7.43. from source
[19:35] <duke2410> my system is 12.04
[19:36] <Nietzschean> I am having a problem with rutorrent. its probably a really simple fix for someone who knows more about linux. can anyone try to help me out? I sure would appreciate it
[19:36] <duke2410> but in phpinfo i see OpenSSL Library Version => OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010 OpenSSL Header Version => OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009
[19:37] <duke2410> jemand der deutsch spricht hier?
[19:38] <DJones> !de | duke2410
[19:38] <grinchier> Nietzschean: i don't even know what that is I use transmission
[19:38] <duke2410> ok danke
[19:38] <ibouvousaime> Do you guys know a good equivalent to gparted that has a live CD version and is smaller than 128 mb ?
[19:39] <grinchier> ibouvousaime: pencilandpaper does
[19:40] <ibouvousaime> he is having a walk grinchier
[19:40] <grinchier> lol
[19:40] <Nietzschean> thanks grinchier.  it  is a web interface for rtorrent, I used the seedbox-from-scratch script to install it, everything else is showing up correctly, just not rutorrent
[19:40] <grinchier> never heard of rtorrent either sorry
[19:41] <rypervenche> Nietzschean: rtorrent and rutorrent are very old. I would recommend you try out deluge and its web part.
[19:41] <Nietzschean> hmmm ok thanks
[19:41] <rypervenche> Or qbittorrent
[19:41] <__nemo__> ibouvousaime: cant you just use the ubuntu boot-usbstick? gparted works from the liveboot
[19:41] <grinchier> __nemo__: he needs something less then 128mb
[19:41] <__nemo__> oh well
[19:42] <ibouvousaime> I only have a 128 mb USB drive with me right now
[19:42] <grinchier> tiny linux
[19:42] <ibouvousaime> exaclty grinchier
[19:42] <Nietzschean> the seedbox-from-scratch script installed deluge too, does deluge work with IRSSI?
[19:42] <rypervenche> Nietzschean: Define "work with".
[19:43] <grinchier> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[19:43] <DJones> ibouvousaime: You could look at damm small linux
[19:43] <grinchier> ^
[19:43] <DJones> But not sure if it has live usb
[19:43] <grinchier> it does
[19:43] <BuzzardBuzz> yes damn small linux is 50MB
[19:44] <grinchier> there is smaller versions of puppy too i believe
[19:44] <Nietzschean> haha.. well i have never used it before, i have been using utorrent on my windows home server, but decided i wanted to setup my extra laptop to run linux and some seedbox type auto-dl scripts to for some private trackers
[19:44] <ibouvousaime> humm does it have gparted DJones ?
[19:44] <grinchier> Nietzschean: transmission is a good one
[19:45] <ibouvousaime> or something similar DJones
[19:45] <ibouvousaime> ?*
[19:45] <BuzzardBuzz> if it dont you can install gparted
[19:45] <ioria> ibouvousaime, http://kolibrios.org/en/
[19:46] <grinchier> ibouvousaime: it doesn't
[19:46] <ioria> 18 mb :-)
[19:46] <grinchier> what are you trying to do with gparted?
[19:46] <grinchier> it does have parted though
[19:46] <grinchier> just not gparted
[19:47] <grinchier> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_mono/parted.html#SEC8
[19:47] <dolf> Hi folks. I just did fresh install of ubuntu 15.04. Installed it in EFI mode, and opted to encrypt the os disk. Now I'm using a lenovo keyboard, but it seems the hid-lenovo module isn't loaded when asking for a passphrase. How could I add that? I thought I should use update-initramfs, but that seems to be different with EFI?
[19:52] <leafybasil> Any DWM users here?  I tried freshly patching dwm6.0 with pango, but when I set the font to my powerline one it doesnt render anything, do I need pango AND xft patches?
[19:58] <DJJeff> cairo dock is nice is there an IRC channel for this software on freenode?
[19:58] <DJJeff> or is there an even better or newer dock that compares to cairo dock
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> DJJeff  type /j #cairo
[19:59] <DJJeff> cause I think cairo dock has not been updated in some time now
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> DJJeff  15.04 has 'plank', iirc
[19:59] <easyOnMe> MonkeyDust: can you help me
[19:59] <DJJeff> has that been tested on 14.04 trusty ?
[19:59] <easyOnMe> I just installed MiniTube
[19:59] <LeMike> DJJeff: try kupfer ;) not a dock but finds everything even in browser history or your docs
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> DJJeff  it's not in trusty
[19:59] <easyOnMe> and it returns an error everytime I search of a video
[20:00] <easyOnMe> can anyone help me my MiniTube is not able to search for videos
[20:00] <easyOnMe> I just installed it just now
[20:01] <daftykins> from where?
[20:01] <easyOnMe> it says error downloading http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api etc etc
[20:02] <daftykins> where did you download this program?
[20:02] <xangua> probably Youtube changed something in the api
[20:02] <easyOnMe> from the Software Center
[20:02] <histo> easyOnMe: youtube changes their api stuff all the time.
[20:02] <daftykins> xangua: +1 my thoughts exactly
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> easyOnMe  try youtube-dl in the terminal
[20:03] <kostkon> easyOnMe, you could try the latest version from the official website http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube
[20:03] <kostkon> easyOnMe, download the .deb, double-click on it
[20:04] <easyOnMe> kostkon: thanks
[20:05] <zorg24> Can anyone help me make sure I have latest version of iwlwifi, because my wifi is working, but the speeds are horrible (works fine if I boot into windows though)
[20:05] <easyOnMe> kostkon: shall I uninstall my old minitube first before I install the one from the website
[20:05] <kostkon> easyOnMe, not needed
[20:06] <easyOnMe> kostkon: ok thanks
[20:06] <kostkon> easyOnMe, or ok go ahead, remove the old first
[20:06] <easyOnMe> kostkon: no need
[20:06] <kostkon> easyOnMe, just do it (tm)
[20:07] <easyOnMe> when I opened the file software center opened it for me and it says upgrade
[20:07] <easyOnMe> so I just clicked upgrade
[20:07] <kostkon> easyOnMe, good then. all is fine
[20:07] <easyOnMe> kostkon: hopefully it is still installing the upgrades
[20:11] <easyOnMe> i just run this command just now: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:11] <easyOnMe> and this is what I got
[20:11] <easyOnMe> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[20:11] <easyOnMe> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[20:11] <easyOnMe> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:11] <easyOnMe> this is the first time I am encountering this problem
[20:12] <xangua> easyOnMe: software centre-edit menu-sources-very first tab- disable cd
[20:12] <easyOnMe> can anyone tell me what I can do
[20:14] <easyOnMe> xangua: what does your solution do
[20:15] <grinchier> easyOnMe: edit the sources file and comment it out
[20:15] <easyOnMe> grinchier: where and how
[20:16] <grinchier> easyOnMe: http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=388
[20:16] <grinchier> look for the cd line and put the # in front
[20:17] <OerHeks> softwarecenter > edit >sources will do too
[20:22] <erwin> is there a way to download youtube videos using MiniTube
[20:22] <erwin> I have been
[20:22] <erwin> looking all over the menus but nothing seems to show any download features
[20:23] <grinchier> erwin: there are some firefox addons that do that
[20:23] <erwin> how
[20:23] <OerHeks> !info youtube-dl
[20:23] <erwin> where can I download those addons
[20:24] <erwin> OerHeks: what does !info youtube-dl mean
[20:24] <OerHeks> the bot is offline, i see
[20:24] <DalekSec> OerHeks: Nope, just laggy.
[20:24] <OerHeks> youtube-dl is a script to download
[20:24] <DalekSec> Netsplits, and all.
[20:24] <ObrienDave> extra laggy ;P
[20:25] <OerHeks> erwin, else open firefox app page, and search?
[20:25] <erwin> OerHeks: I just downloaded a firefox addon
[20:26] <meandrain> Hi. Anybody has experience with DTrace 4 Linux ?
[20:27] <OerHeks> meandrain,  dtrace is not available for "debian" / ubuntu
[20:27] <erwin> grinchier: so how do I use the firefox addon to download the youtube video
[20:28] <erwin> I just installed one on firefox
[20:28] <meandrain> OerHeks: this works:  https://github.com/dtrace4linux/linux
[20:28] <OerHeks> meandrain, so what is your question then?
[20:30] <OerHeks> s
[20:30] <meandrain> OerHeks: Online providers will work ok. What does not work:  ./script.d -c "./a.out"   Will not run ./a.out binary
[20:30] <erwin> I got it
[20:31] <plunkett> i have a problem with my gui on audacity
[20:31] <OerHeks> meandrain, sorry, it is not offical supported.
[20:31] <OerHeks> (her)
[20:45] <tomivs> Hi
[20:46] <tomivs> What video editor do you recommend/use?
[20:46] <NegativeFlare> tomivs: Pitivi
[20:46] <moses_> does changing the xconfig/monitors file refresh tag work in 14.04?
[20:46] <NegativeFlare> Personally
[20:48] <ownix123> if I am running Ubuntu live off a flash drive, will the changes I make persists?
[20:48] <daftykins> only if you set up the flash drive with a persistence file
[20:48] <daftykins> !persistence
[20:55] <Corey84> unholding a  pkg  via apt-get cmd  line  is  what  ?
[20:55] <Corey84> apt-get  ?
[20:56] <usafbeach> --ignore-hold
[20:58] <usafbeach> or apt-mark unhold pkg
[20:59] <g0th_> hi
[21:00] <g0th_> how can I check if a mounted usb drive is working at usb3 speed?
[21:00] <lord_daemon> g0th_ good question
[21:00] <lord_daemon> i also want to know
[21:01] <g0th_> i.e. how do I "connect" the mount information to e.g. lsusb
[21:06] <zorg24> I'm having a weird issue where my wifi connection is very slow in ubuntu, its a laptop with an Intel 6300, I'd greatly appreciate any help figuring out what's wrong
[21:13] <Guest99407> hi all
[21:20] <PurEtChaste> Hi
[21:20] <dtscode> If I sudo apt-get purge my gcc(1), will it a) completely remove it, and b) will I be able to get it
[21:20] <dtscode> If I sudo apt-get purge my gcc(1), will it a) completely remove it, and b) will I be able to get it
[21:22] <moses_> does anyone know how to get xrandr to work ?
[21:23] <moses_> it stopped working after I changed to dual monitors through nvidia
[21:23] <goesmin> '# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde' fails at an "Input/output error" at 3.2GB in every single time. S.M.A.R.T. reports no ptoblems with the drive. thoughts?
[21:24] <PurEtChaste> can anyone help me install java and intelliJ ?
[21:24] <bekks> PurEtChaste: Whats the issue with installing java?
[21:25] <PurEtChaste> I don't know, the system don't recognize it i would say. I dowloaded the .bz2 and untar it, is there anything else to do?
[21:33] <leafybasil> Hey all, can anyone tell me why some commands I execute before DWM work, and others do not?  "xset" seems to work fine but "setxkbmap" doesn't until after DWM is loaded
[21:35] <PurEtChaste_> Hi again, i have issues installing java jre and jdk in order to install intelliJ.
[21:35] <bekks> Which issue?
[21:36] <PurEtChaste_> So i dowloaded the files and untar it as I said, but when it comes to install intelliJ i have an error telling me that no jre or jdk is installed
[21:36] <PurEtChaste_> to insall jre and jdk i followed the steps described on the oracle website
[21:37] <bekks> !java | PurEtChaste_
[21:38] <PurEtChaste_> I'll try it
[21:48] <PurEtChaste_> ok so actually, as the oracle versions seemed not to be working i installed the openJDK ones and it is now ok. Thank you
[22:02] <fxmulder> I'm looking to resetup a machine, looking at the partition table it looks like it is using GPT and is setup like http://nsab.us/public/linux  Any idea what creates partitions like this?
[22:09] <iamthellama> Hi. Small emergency here. I just tried to install ubuntu 15.04 alongside windows 8.1. The partitioning in the installer failed, though, completely, and now my primary hard drive is not visible--not even in gparted. A little help?
[22:10] <le_pig> .
[22:13] <iamthellama> Hi. Small emergency here. I just tried to install ubuntu 15.04 alongside windows 8.1. The partitioning in the installer failed, though, completely, and now my primary hard drive is not visible--not even in gparted. A little help?
[22:15] <grinchier> not visible?
[22:20] <thebot> hello
[22:21] <iamthellama> Hi. Small emergency here. I just tried to install ubuntu 15.04 alongside windows 8.1. The partitioning in the installer failed, though, completely, and now my primary hard drive is not visible--not even in gparted. A little help?
[22:22] <daftykins> iamthellama: reboot
[22:22] <thebot> not sure, can you still boot into windows? iamthellama
[22:22] <mach20x> Turned my PC on today and the BIOS won't POST...
[22:22] <iamthellama> daftykins: I rebooted, no bootable media was found. I'm now in a liveboot of ubuntu.
[22:23] <iamthellama> thebot: No I cannot.
[22:23] <ianorlin> mach20x: that could easily be a hardware problem not something wrong with ubuntu so ##hardware might get you better results
[22:23] <iamthellama> thebot: bios says no bootable media found.
[22:23] <mach20x> Does a boot from recovery mode keep we in a full root mode status?
[22:23] <mach20x> In Ubuntu 15.04
[22:24] <ianorlin> mach20x: if you get to were it say recovery mode it does post you are at the bootloader
[22:24] <thebot> hmm...I would say
[22:24] <mach20x> No it isn't now
[22:24] <iamthellama> fdisk -l does show, I *think* what essentially was being used as windows' swap partition still being there? It's a 128MB partition that is type "microsoft reserved"
[22:24] <iamthellama> that's on /dev/sda1.
[22:24] <mach20x> But before this happened I was using recovery mode
[22:25] <daftykins> iamthellama: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted l | pastebinit
[22:25] <thebot> what does fdisk -l show, does it show the drive and the partitions?
[22:25] <daftykins> iamthellama: that is not even vaguely swap.
[22:25] <guest8574> Is there a 32-bit version of Dolphin Emulator available for Ubuntu?
[22:26] <iamthellama> this is fdisk -l : http://pastebin.com/ZfWSHNt1
[22:27] <zorlac> hello all
[22:27] <mach20x> I'm asking so that I can rule out the possibility that it is a bit of malicious logic that ran to Fry my BIOS while in root mode (assuming full root after boot from recovery mode)
[22:27] <iamthellama> daftykins: does it matter? I'm not sure what windows uses it for, you get the idea.
[22:28] <iamthellama> daftykins: got an error trying to install pastebinit "Error: Could not stat device l - No such file or directory."
[22:28] <iamthellama> liveboot problem?
[22:30] <mach20x> Again, does anyone know if full root privileges carry after a boot from recovery mode?
[22:30] <iamthellama> daftykins: here it is done manually: http://pastebin.com/4Zgf4HAj
[22:30] <iamthellama> daftykins: the 1TB is a second hard drive, unrelated to my problem.
[22:31] <iamthellama> the 16gb is my usb stick I'm livebooting off of.
[22:31] <zorlac> QUESTION.  how come when i connect to irc on my laptop, my http server log says 198.245.61.1182 -- "CONNECT 127.0.0.1:6667
[22:32] <daftykins> iamthellama: accuracy in tech matters, yes
[22:33] <daftykins> iamthellama: that 8 does not look EFI installed
[22:33] <daftykins> oh that 1TB
[22:33] <daftykins> iamthellama: desktop system?
[22:34] <mach20x> zorlac: 127.0.0.1 is within the loopback range, so search one the function of loopback for your irc client
[22:34] <iamthellama> daftykins:  No, heavy duty dell, dual hard drives in place of cd drive
[22:34] <mach20x> On now one
[22:34] <mach20x> Not not now
[22:35] <mach20x> Hate my phone sometimes “damn autocorrect”:-P
[22:35] <daftykins> iamthellama: power off, remove mains power + battery, jab the power button a few times, then reassemble and boot back in and repeat the sudo parted -l
[22:35] <iamthellama> daftykins: for what it's worth, the installer said my preexisting install seemed to not be UEFI. Not sure if it knew what is was talking about. It's a standard windows 8.1 install, can't imagine why it wouldn't be UEFI. That said, I followed its instructions and clicked the checkbox it offered me accordingly.
[22:35] <iamthellama> daftykins: I'll do it, but can I ask why that would change anything?
[22:35] <daftykins> not before hand, no :)
[22:36] <iamthellama> daftykins: tjat
[22:36] <iamthellama> daftykins: that's super inconvenient, I'd really rather not do that if it's not for a good reason. I've rebooted twice, I don't see why stronger powercycling should change anything....
[22:37] <daftykins> you have two choices, sit there with a broken install not making progress... or try it.
[22:37] <daftykins> i fail to see how it's inconvenient to power off a system that's not working.
[22:39] <iamthellama> daftykins:  Why can't you just explain your reasoning? It is inconvient for several reasons. I have four cables hooked into this computer as part of a multi monitor setup. I have several windows open and am trying to problem solve this in several ways. I have had to use one of my backup codes for two factor authentication because I don't have a wor
[22:39] <iamthellama> king phone at the moment, making that process a pain. To use my browser as a phone, i had to install the voice plugin and restart firefox. Etc.
[22:40] <daftykins> i want to see the SATA controllers reset.
[22:40] <ash__> I'm trying to upgrade xubuntu 14.04 to 15.04 but after issuing the command "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" I get a "ConnectionResetError: (Errno 104) Connection reset by peer"
[22:40] <iamthellama> daftykins: that's kind of a longshot, you think I experienced a hardware failure?
[22:41] <daftykins> the disk isn't showing, either you share a dmesg and we stare at some SATA port detection errors and go "hrmm i wonder why it's not talking..." which leads to the suggestion of just doing as i instructed anyway :)
[22:41] <daftykins> anyway your call, we can talk about it until the cows come home and go to university, or take action :)
[22:43] <[almark]> trivia like sata cables correctly pluged in?
[22:44] <daftykins> laptop so not quite so likely
[22:44] <[almark]> hmmm
[22:44] <daftykins> i would certainly hope they're plugged in and screwed in :)
[22:45] <ash__> is there any way to start the release upgrade from the beginning ?
[22:45] <iamthellama> daftykins: yeah, you bet. I do have some dmesg errors, if you are interested. http://pastebin.com/n29nsz3z
[22:45] <daftykins> not until the above is done
[22:45] <daftykins> you see, those are SATA link resets due to having issues talking to the drive
[22:45] <daftykins> so.. as suggested the controllers need a reset which = total power down
[22:45] <daftykins> :)
[22:46] <iamthellama> daftykins: I have never heard of this. I'm truly baffled how taking the battery out and cutting all power could affect the SATA ports. Are you telling me they have some kind of state memory of their own or something?
[22:47] <daftykins> for the love of Tux you said this was an emergency, will you just go and do it already?
[22:47] <MonkeyDu2t_> iamthellama  what daftykins suggsts, resets your pc
[22:47] <iamthellama> daftykins: -_- fine.
[22:51] <Moonlightning> I've got Utopic Unicorn on a laptop, and while most of the -function keys- seem to do what they say (the volume keys, in particular), the brightness keys don't--IIRC, pressing the brightness-down key suspends the system and pressing the brightness-up key does nothing.
[22:52] <Moonlightning> (Those two keys are alternately F2 and F3)
[22:53] <Moonlightning> I'm looking under Settings -> Keyboard, and I see that most of the not-really-function keys here, but I don't see anything for brightness
[22:54] <Jamie_1> hey for some odd reason i keep having problems with my computer recovering from hibernation or the such... the mouse will appear but the screen will remain black other than that. If i go into tty and run the startx it does not seem to start the xserver
[22:55] <iamthellama> daftykins: Hi.
[22:55] <iamthellama> daftykins: gparted shows nothing different.
[22:56] <Moonlightning> ...oh, no, I take that back. The toggle-wifi and toggle-trackpad keys don't do anything, either.
[22:56] <daftykins> i don't care about that program, logs please - starting with dmesg
[22:57] <iamthellama> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/2JukfWyP
[22:57] <Jamie_1> I still have the swap on but the swappiness is turned down to 10 due to I know if i turn it off it wont sleep properly
[22:58] <Jamie_1> problem is that i am loosing progress on stuff when it goes to sleep and wont wake up... lost about 90 lines of code last time.
[22:58] <bekks> because the swap space is where it sleeps.
[22:58] <bekks> Jamie_1: Safe your code regularly.
[22:58] <Jamie_1> bekks: i know that... that is why i only turned it down instead of off
[22:59] <Jamie_1> bekks: I know... I need to make better habit of that
[22:59] <Moonlightning> Jamie_1: get an editor that autosaves or uses swapfiles. :)
[22:59] <Jamie_1> Moonlightning: I use sublime
[23:00] <Jamie_1> but my thing is, is there a way to fix this or find the cause
[23:00] <Anf> Es klappt einfach nicht, er mountet sich einfach nicht
[23:00] <daftykins> iamthellama: and you absolutely disconnected every single cable, the adapter... every battery... etc?
[23:00] <frant> How do I show missing files?
[23:00] <Anf> Sorry wrong chenell
[23:00] <bekks> frant: Missing file where?
[23:01] <Moonlightning> frant: In what context? Command line, graphical file browser...?
[23:01] <MonkeyDu2t_> frant  if you mean hidden file: ctrl h
[23:01] <Jamie_1> oh and it keeps constantly giving me the messages of an internal error has occurred
[23:01] <iamthellama> daftykins: unplugged both monitors, usb keyboard, power, removed battery completely, let it sit, hit power button several times,  let it sit, and then replugged everything and restarted.
[23:02] <frant> not missing, hidden
[23:02] <Jamie_1> ctrl+h
[23:02] <daftykins> iamthellama: ok, so presumably Windows absolutely doesn't work either? :) system doesn't find a boot disk at all?
[23:03] <iamthellama> daftykins: doesn't even try to boot. Total failure. No boot disk. Bootable list shows nothing other than this usb drive.
[23:03] <daftykins> iamthellama: funky, alright power off, remove both disks, put the disk that's storage only to one side - then put the OS disk inside where the storage only disk is and boot the live session again
[23:04] <Jamie_1> any suggestions on what to do about my computer not waking properly
[23:05] <daftykins> Jamie_1: are you using any proprietary drivers? e.g. for graphics?
[23:05] <Jamie_1> i am using the nvidia... let me check which one...
[23:05] <daftykins> with which card and/or chip?
[23:06] <iamthellama> daftykins: So you're saying to remove the 1TB, and take the non-responsive SSD and stick it where the 1TB is right now, and then boot up and come back here?
[23:06] <daftykins> iamthellama: yep. ah SSD, which model?
[23:06] <daftykins> iamthellama: oh and make sure you're booting up with none of that extra junk plugged in - try with the bare minimum
[23:07] <iamthellama> daftykins: OCZ ARC 100 240GB SSD 2.5"
[23:07] <iamthellama> daftykins: for the sake of making dmesg easier to read?
[23:07] <daftykins> no for whether i'm familiar with SSDs that've had firmware issues
[23:08] <daftykins> oh for the unplugging
[23:08] <iamthellama> yes
[23:08] <daftykins> when you're troubleshooting you run the simplest config possible
[23:08] <Jamie_1> daftykins: NVIDIA binary driver - verion 304.125
[23:08] <daftykins> Jamie_1: yep and device?
[23:08] <daftykins> ( lspci | pastebinit)
[23:09] <iamthellama> daftykins: welp, brb I guess.
[23:09] <daftykins> roger that
[23:09] <Jamie_1> daftykins: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8837487
[23:10] <ePirat-> FreeManBounty, finally fixed it, thanks!
[23:10] <daftykins> Jamie_1: hmm looks like an original generation Core CPU, correct?
[23:11] <Jamie_1> yes
[23:11] <Jamie_1> I5 dual core
[23:11] <daftykins> Jamie_1: does 'additional drivers' offer you any other versions than the 304?
[23:11] <Jamie_1> yes many
[23:11] <daftykins> Jamie_1: also, does your swap file *exceed* the amount of RAM you have?
[23:11] <Jamie_1> no
[23:11] <daftykins> free -m vs cat /proc/meminfo
[23:11] <Jamie_1> I have 4 gb of ram
[23:12] <daftykins> and swap is...?
[23:12] <ozbrk> guys it is a really messy situtation here yet it is deffietly off-topic
[23:12] <Jamie_1> matches my memory daftykins
[23:12] <daftykins> !ot | ozbrk then go enjoy !
[23:13] <Jamie_1> currently there is no swap being used at all
[23:13] <daftykins> Jamie_1: ok try each of the drivers out and see if it alleviates the issue
[23:13] <Jamie_1> I swap back to the one i used to use
[23:13] <Jamie_1> *ill
[23:13] <daftykins> Jamie_1: start with the youngest editions as your hardware is very old
[23:13] <daftykins> so... 319 i think would be next
[23:14] <Jamie_1> yea i know...  but it still runs beautifully. I was using the x.org nouveau drivers
[23:15] <Jamie_1> I try to avoid the 331 drivers from nvidia due to a bug about it not working right currently
[23:16] <daftykins> not heard of that one
[23:16] <iamthellama> daftykins: I'm back.
[23:16] <daftykins> but there is 331 and 331-updates
[23:16] <Jamie_1> its open sourced
[23:16] <iamthellama> got errors on ata2 instead of ata this time.
[23:16] <daftykins> Jamie_1: what is?
[23:16] <iamthellama> So it's the drive, not the SATA port.
[23:16] <Jamie_1> the nouveau drivers
[23:16] <daftykins> iamthellama: mmhmm, wouldn't hurt to try in another system
[23:16] <Jamie_1> daftykins: also if you dont mind me asking... since the topic came up... what i a great newish not to expensive laptop that will work great with ubuntu
[23:17] <iamthellama> daftykins: what do you mean?
[23:17] <daftykins> Jamie_1: no i know what nouveau is lol, i meant the alleged bug
[23:17] <daftykins> iamthellama: the SSD...
[23:17] <daftykins> Jamie_1: sorry i don't do shopping, that's a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:17] <iamthellama> daftykins: Why? Didn't we just demonstrate that the problem is very clearly the drive, not the port?
[23:17] <Jamie_1> one sec it can give you the link... and it has never really worked for me... always caused problems
[23:18] <daftykins> iamthellama: you're not hugely open minded on this topic are you? :)
[23:18] <Jamie_1> daftykins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1431753
[23:18] <daftykins> iamthellama: would you not want to try all the easy things within your reach before labelling some hardware dead 0o
[23:18] <iamthellama> daftykins: are you suggested the hard drive was bricked? I didn't realize that was the only possible interpretation.
[23:19] <daftykins> i'm not assuming at all
[23:19] <daftykins> i'm suggesting _confirmation_ :)
[23:19] <daftykins> anyway, you know what to do now
[23:19] <iamthellama> daftykins: That's rather optimistic of you. But anyways, you're saying if it doesn't show up as readable in another computer, that means it is bricked?
[23:19] <ozbrk> at least I shared my storry there thenks for guiding me. I hope someone reads it at that offtoic channel
[23:19] <daftykins> yep then you can arrange the funeral
[23:20] <iamthellama> daftykins: how the fuck did a standard ubuntu install partition attempt do this?! That's infuriating!
[23:20] <daftykins> don't use that language in here.
[23:20] <daftykins> also, who says Ubuntu is to blame?
[23:20] <daftykins> maybe it was just timing.
[23:20] <daftykins> OCZ SSD's are pretty notoriously terrible
[23:21] <iamthellama> daftykins: You're overstretching. They made some flawed ones years ago, this particular SSD, which I researched before I bought, was known to be reliable, well made, and fast. And Occam's razor definitely suggest that isn't a coincidence.
[23:21] <iamthellama> daftykins: this is cut and dry, I tried to partition it, it threw up a ton of errors during its attempt to partition, and now it is bricked. How that could be interpreted any other way is beyond me.
[23:21] <daftykins> iamthellama: oh and how many have you dealt with? :)
[23:22] <daftykins> bear in mind here that i have no alliegance to ubuntu as i don't even use it
[23:22] <daftykins> so i care not what the culprit was, really
[23:22] <daftykins> anywho, problem isolated
[23:22] <Bashing-om> iamthellama: daftykins I recently went round and round with ATA errors . Come to find out it ws my boot code(s) at fault. I got my grubs correct and that did resolve the ATA error conditioins. Your case, does the firmware even see the hard drives in the set up utility ?
[23:23] <daftykins> Bashing-om: mmm, i probably would've been tempted by a BIOS/EFI update
[23:23] <Jamie_1> thanks for the help daftykins... if that does not solve the problem I will come back at another time
[23:23] <daftykins> np
[23:23] <grinchier> how can I test my swap is working right?
[23:24] <iamthellama> daftykins: I don't rely on my own personal anecdotal experience to determine the reliability of a brand, I look up what's said online. How many I've dealt with doesn't really seem relevant. I've dealt with many SSDs, though, if that's what you mean, and this is one of the better ones I've dealt with, if not the best.
[23:24] <iamthellama> Bashing-om: so are you saying reinstalling grub fixed it?
[23:25] <iamthellama> Bashing-om: I'm not sure; I guess I should check to see if it's identified with bios in the bios menu? Is that what you're asking?
[23:26] <daftykins> iamthellama: whatever you say :)
[23:26] <Bashing-om> iamthellama: daftykins Has the lead here .. With the ATA error . My situation was corrected by getting all my grubs in-line ( I do multi boot and have multiple grubs).
[23:28] <Bashing-om> iamthellama: Id the firmware foes not detect the hard drives, then it is not passed to the operating system .
[23:36] <cracker> hi
[23:36] <cracker> hi
[23:37] <cracker> hi
[23:37] <cracker> hi
[23:37] <cracker> hi
[23:54] <mach20x> (mach20x) I have been using Ubuntu after running recovery, because the graphics tears on a normal boot. I want to know if unsecure root privileges are utilized when booting from recovery, that way I know whether or not malicious code could have affected the BIOS
[23:59] <grinchier> I don't think so