=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [13:41] <__nemo__> . === Hund_ is now known as Hund [18:08] Hello I have a question for you : Whats the package that provide support for ext3 file system ? [18:17] ibouvousaime: hi, how are you doing man? [18:17] you are trying to partition your hdd to ext3 ibouvousaime ? [18:17] you are using Puppy Linux right? [18:17] Im trying to resize it [18:17] I mean [18:18] I want ot resize my main partition of my hdd [18:18] but the problem is that [18:18] i use a parted magic live iso, or any live iso, and resize [18:18] the USB drive is too small for gparted lol [18:18] so I have to use puppy [18:19] holstein, cool I think I will use that [18:19] pencilandpaper, lol hi xD Im not running it at the moment [18:19] but its on my 128 mb USB drive lol [18:19] i would have backups, before doing any partition sizing.. [18:19] the Xubuntu live DVD will allow you to adjust partition sizes using gparted [18:20] there are quite a few diagnostic live iso's that will be small enough, and let you resize as well.. the UBCD, for example [18:20] I really should but I dont have no places to save something :( [18:20] ohh [18:20] as long as you are ok with losing that data, you are fine.. you *will* lose it when that drive fails, and it will [18:20] ok, well then thats easy ibouvousaime ..just go live with Puppy and use gparted. its installed by default man. [18:20] I didnt know that one [18:21] puppt doesnt support ext3 [18:21] puppy* [18:21] so I can resize :( [18:21] ibouvousaime: ive never had any issues with puppy and ext3 [18:21] its on older version [18:21] so I can put it on the hard drive [18:21] anyways, you can use the tool you wish.. the installer for xubuntu, for example, would be ideal, if thats what your plan is.. [18:21] puppy is almost 200 mb nowadays [18:21] mine is the 4.2 version [18:21] yes it does ibouvousaime , you just have to install that ext3 package for parted to recognize ext3 filesystems. [18:22] my wifi isnt working there too :( [18:22] precise puppy right ibouvousaime ? [18:22] well let me ask you this please ibouvousaime are you using hexchat or xchat by chance right now? [18:22] Im using hexchat [18:23] yes its precise I think pencilandpaper [18:23] nice, do me a favor ibouvousaime , and right in hexchat enter this command: /exec -o inxi -Nn [18:23] ok cool ibouvousaime , thanks. [18:23] Network: Card-1 Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter driver bcma-pci-bridge [18:23] IF wlp2s0 state up mac [18:23] Card-2 Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5761 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver tg3 [18:23] IF enp10s0 state down mac [18:24] youre a genius pencilandpaper [18:25] nice, now the wifi driver is bcma-pci-bridge ibouvousaime , now lets do this..what DE are you using? [18:25] lol not at all ibouvousaime , it would blow your mind at what i DONT know. lol [18:25] on puppy ? [18:25] no, on the distro that you are using right now. [18:25] xfce lol [18:26] nice, now in terminal enter: sudo thunar [18:26] id just choose one problem, and address it.. for me, the first would be a proper backup, before losing anything important. then, i would just take the shortest path to resizing.. the installer would do that, and i have to boot the installer anyway [18:26] and once you have thunar opened as root ibouvousaime let me know please. [18:26] okay [18:27] thanks. [18:27] its done [18:27] xD [18:27] I have it :D [18:28] \o/ [18:28] ok, now navigate to /lib/firmware ibouvousaime , and that is where you will see your wifi driver at..you want to get the driver and place it on your stick...then you have it to place in /lib/firmware on Puppy and your wifi will work. [18:29] okayyy [18:29] you are going to have to create a save file and reboot after installing that wifi driver for wifi to work..and you may not have room on your stick to do that..so can i ask you something please..are you adjusting partitions on the same computer as you are on now? [18:31] yes I want to reduce this partitions's size actaully my ultimate goal is to install windows alonside this linux distro I plan to put the windows install files in another small partition and install windows in a 3rd partition and take back my files from linux [18:31] I will tell you my play so far lol [18:31] ok..:) [18:31] i would install the windows first, and shrink the partitions with the linux installer, since, those tools will just be there for that purpose [18:32] if you even need to shrink anything, at that point.. [18:32] If had a large USB stick I would have installed windows [18:32] holstein, [18:32] so about the plan [18:32] !mini [18:32] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [18:32] dont need a "large" stick to install linux.. [18:32] but, again, do what you like.. [18:32] - I plan to resize this manjaro linux partition [18:33] do you just want to shrink your linux partition and then create a partition for windows to be installed on so that its dealt with ibouvousaime ? [18:33] holstein, I mean install windows [18:33] yes [18:34] I plan to install windows from the hard drive itself I think I can make grub detect and boot from the windows installer [18:34] ok ibouvousaime you have gparted installed on manjaro right? if so, will do you me a favor and take a screenshot of your partitions and share them with me via http://uploadpie.com please? [18:34] yes I have it [18:34] on manjaro lol [18:34] not sure that you are 'allowed' to do that, with a windows installer, but, im sure you'll get what you need, eventually.. good luck [18:34] okay [18:34] well once we get your partitions decent i can tell you how to install windows afterwards ibouvousaime . [18:34] okay [18:34] thank you [18:35] yw. [18:35] this is why they suggested that you ask me about that in the other channel ibouvousaime . [18:36] System: Host: pencilandpaper Kernel: 4.0.5-vivid-32-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.2.2 [18:36] Distro: Vividpup 6.5 vivid [18:36] :) [18:37] other channel ? pencilandpaper Sorry I dont understand what you mean there [18:37] ohh [18:37] no still not sorry [18:37] understanding [18:38] cool..and no worries ibouvousaime . [18:38] pencilandpaper, http://uploadpie.com/2r3Il [18:39] here is the screenshot [18:40] cool thanks, now what windows version do you want to install if you dont mind me asking? [18:41] windows 7 [18:41] (even if I hate it lol but I have no choice) [18:41] ok thanks. now lets see what the recommended disk space is for windows 7 is real quick. [18:42] i understand man, it is what it is you know what i mean? :) [18:42] 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit) [18:43] haha man I wish more software made linux versions lol [18:43] I have the 64 bit iso right now [18:43] I googled it pencilandpaper [18:44] I mean the hard drive space requiered lol [18:44] xD [18:44] right but once you get to installing updates as well as software ibouvousaime disk space with windows goes REALLY fast so this is what i would do..give it atleast 60gb. [18:45] ohh yea [18:45] yep..for real..so shrink your partition down and leave atleast 60gb after it. then once you do that..you are going to format that 60gb unallocated space as ntfs (windows filesystem). [18:46] once you do that ibouvousaime ..come back around bro and i will assist you in installing windows 7 if you want..ok? [18:46] yes sure :D [18:46] pencilandpaper, [18:47] I will be back [18:47] ok cool ibouvousaime , and good luck man. [18:47] also your partition is ext4 not ext3. you dont need to format anything in ext3..windows is ntfs. [18:49] there is something stange too my USB isnt appearing on the thunar that is running as root [18:51] maybe close thunar and reopen it as root ibouvousaime . see if that helps? [18:51] okay [18:58] did that work for you ibouvousaime ? [18:58] not yet :( [18:59] if so remember to get the driver on manjaro from /lib/firmware and place it on your stick so that you can put it in /lib/firmware once you get on Puppy. [18:59] Im trying to figure out the wifi driver's name too [18:59] its b43legacy I think [18:59] i think that its bcma-pci-bridge ibouvousaime . [18:59] okay [19:00] see if you can do this, press ctrl+shift+t and open a new tab in your terminal and once you do that..enter" sudo mount /dev/sdb1 //mnt [19:01] that should mount your stick ibouvousaime , and then in thunar (file manager) navigate to /mnt and the contents of the usb stick will be there..so you can place the driver in there. [19:01] okay [19:01] thank you I will do that [19:01] then in the same tab that you mounted the stick enter: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 and that will unmount your usb stick for you. [19:01] yw man. [19:03] its emppty :( [19:03] I did the command again I got mount: /dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /mnt busy [19:03] /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /run/media/ibouvousaime/CDROM [19:03] /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt [19:06] here is the content of the firmware folder (just directories) I dont find bcma-pci-bridge yet http://paste.debian.net/plain/245772 [19:06] pencilandpaper, Its just folders [19:08] all files on firmware pencilandpaper http://paste.debian.net/plain/245773 [19:09] ok ibouvousaime , thanks. [19:09] you want the b43, b43legacy, and bcrm folders ibouvousaime . those are the broadcom drivers. :) [19:09] Assuming i put HDDs in these which of the following is the better machine (purpose: to play around with linux and programming) Choice A: http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/syd/5032705193.html Choice B: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T400-14-2-53GHz-Intel-Core-2-Duo-T9400-3GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-/351430937428 [19:10] as far as the stick when you go to /mnt do you see the contents of your stick there? [19:14] no :( [19:14] I dont know why [19:15] they dont appeat i MEAN [19:15] LOL [19:15] appear [19:16] okay [19:16] I will take those folders pencilandpaper [19:16] :) [19:16] OHhhh [19:16] I know why [19:16] OMG [19:16] lool [19:16] its my fault pencilandpaper [19:16] haha I formated before in the mean time [19:16] I forgot [19:16] lol [19:17] ok cool ibouvousaime , if anything just move them to your Downloads folder and then once on Puppy you can mount your manjaro install and get the folders from your Downloads folder and move them over. [19:17] o ok ibouvousaime ..well thats ok, no worries. i am going for a short walk though ibouvousaime , and will be back in about a hour. i will talk to you then ok? [19:18] okay [19:18] I will be there lol:D [19:18] see ya [19:18] pencilandpaper, [19:18] ok cool, see you in a few man. :) [19:18] :) [19:26] Is it difficult to create a xubuntu live usb? [19:30] How do i make a live Xubuntu usb? [19:33] its easy [19:33] try using dd [19:33] what distro are you using em [19:33] ? [19:34] dd if=nameofthefile.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4k should work [19:34] but wait [19:35] MAKE SURE you know the same the the USB stick I mean like sdb or sdc [19:35] you can check that be entering lsblk on a terminal [19:43] hey all [19:43] how do you create a live xubuntu usb? [19:43] !install | em [19:43] em: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [19:44] gays i have probleme language arabic in xubuntu 15.04 [19:44] holstein: that works as well just replacing the ubuntu iso with the xubuntu one? [19:44] em: i simply use unetbootin, though, the iso's can simply be dd copied over to a USB stick. you can refer to the media creation for any ubuntu guide you find [19:44] can you help me !! [19:44] em: xubuntu is ubuntu [19:44] im going to download the xubuntu iso tho [19:45] em: sure, you can dd copy the xubuntu iso to the stick, or use a GUI tool, such as unetbootin, to easily create a bootable USB stick with the xubuntu iso [20:09] holstein: not much. im planning to use it to learn python and other programming languages. Should that matter then if it is 32 bit or not? [20:09] would i run xubuntu on that hardware? sure.. but, no os really makes that hardware any faster or better.. xfce is a nice balance, i find, with light and feature-ful [20:09] em: try it, and see... nothing about "learning python" implies to me you require 64bit [20:09] well i have to buy that laptop if im going to use it so im trying to see what i can find out first [20:09] DSL failed to boot [20:09] sure.. and, both 32 and 64bit versions are freely available.. you'll just have to try them and see what meets your need [20:09] the error I got is failed to load COM32 file menu.c32 === zoktar_ is now known as zoktar [20:17] holstein: you are pretty sure i can just dd the xubuntu.iso directly to my flash drive and that is all it takes to be a bootable live xubuntu ? [20:18] em: no.. its actually documented that it is a certainty, and i have dd copied it, myself.. so, im not "pretty sure" at all.. im positive [20:18] em: if the machine boots USB, you can boot that USB created [20:19] em: if i'm not mistaken the T9400 is the better processor. also the machine has more ram. in both cases, 32bit is the correct choice for now [20:19] i wouldnt be steering away from 32bit on that hardware === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [20:24] DSL doesnt have gparted guys [20:24] ibouvousaime: there is a small, parted magic, iso.. thats what i would use [20:25] Xubuntu live contains it. [20:26] its not free I think holstein [20:26] ibouvousaime: check and see.. im not suggesting you purchase anything [20:26] I checked [20:26] its paid [20:26] xD [20:27] ibouvousaime: there are *many* tools that are small enough for you to use, with a partition resizing tool in them [20:27] ibouvousaime: http://gparted.org/download.php no? [20:27] I searchin at the modment [20:28] https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ , that i suggested earlier.. or, ^ [20:28] it has to be smaller than 120mb Unit193 [20:28] also, the mini iso has a partitioner.. [20:28] Slitaz have it? [20:28] I havent teste slitaz yet [20:28] tested [20:29] holstein, I will try your ultimate boot cd [20:29] ibouvousaime: its not mine.. its just a tool that may fit your needs [20:29] wait its 598 [20:29] 598 mb [20:30] ohh okay I xDD === balkamos_ is now known as balkamos [20:30] thanks btw holstein === Tm_T is now known as Guest97037 [20:30] the mini iso's are small.. and the partitioner there may have the functionality you seek.. [20:33] okay [20:33] I see they have parted magic === Al1ve_ is now known as Al1ve [20:36] the 2013 version is free [20:37] If you guys are interestedd you might wanna keep this link the older free 2013 versions are here http://mrsebe.bplaced.net/blog/wordpress/?p=80 [20:38] oh nno 361 mb === NegativeFlare_ is now known as NegativeFlare [20:44] back..sorry that i took so long. [20:45] ibouvousaime: are you still around man? [20:46] yeah [20:46] I ve been trying DSL and doing some research lol [20:47] DSL didnt have gparted and I couldnt configure the internet [20:47] yeah DSL is weird when it comes to the internet. i dont know if you could find gparted for it or not anymore. maybe somewhere. [20:48] how big is the stick again ibouvousaime ? [20:48] 122 mb [20:48] I wonder if they accept deb files or something [20:49] Id they do I might install gparted maybe [20:49] if* they do [20:49] i thought that you said 180 something. :( [20:49] ok, let me try and find another puppy around that size. [20:51] okay [20:53] yeah, its hard to find one that small anymore. is that the only stick that you have? [20:54] unless I wait tomorrow lool [20:54] but I have work to do [20:55] I cant wait === IdleOne is now known as Guest18267 [20:55] I have an idea [20:55] find the deb file of gparted [20:55] and install it on damn small linux === holstein_ is now known as holstein [20:56] and hope it supports ext3 [20:56] and, that DSL supports installing that .deb, which, AFAIK, it doesnt [20:56] the mini iso doesnt fit your needs? the installer/partitioner there? [20:57] gparted i think is pretty big..as far as all of the .deb's that you would need to have a working gparted. i would go back to puppy 4.2.1 ibouvousaime . [20:57] and why do you need ext3 support ibouvousaime ? [20:57] yup.. or a "puplet" that has what you need [20:57] ohh okay [20:58] to resize an arch install [20:58] yea [20:58] yeah but the install is on a ext4 partition..i am staring at it right now. [20:59] and, the installer for the mini iso should offer to resize it, and, at like 20 mb's.. === NegativeFlare_ is now known as NegativeFlare [20:59] you know what i mean though ibouvousaime , you just need the ext4 support. [21:01] yeah [21:01] holstein I got a bit confure which mini iso are you talking about ? [21:03] so you should be good to go with puppy since it should have the ext4 support as well as the ntfs support in gparted by default ibouvousaime . [21:05] a sec I think I can find a larger stick in my bed room its almost dead lol but it should work [21:05] it had the lastest version of puppy [21:05] I have to hold it tightly until the boot in finished [21:05] haha [21:05] its half dead [21:05] xD [21:06] OMG this will be hard to find === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [21:07] if you can pull that off you are golden. [21:07] if you have a shoe string you can tie it around it real right for that pressure too. [21:09] lol brb [21:11] take your time man. [21:13] I feel like Im never gonna find that lol I have no idea where Ive put it === xnox_ is now known as xnox === bekks_ is now known as bekks [21:22] back. === pAt_ is now known as Guest66455 [21:23] well I give up on the search [21:23] you couldnt find it man? [21:24] the other usb drive [21:24] no [21:24] I coudlnt [21:24] this one looks interesting http://www.partitionwizard.com/partition-wizard-bootable-cd.html [21:26] yeah that doesnt look bad..but i prefer using gparted. its easier for me to understand..and i am so used to reading drives as /dev/sdX instead of C: i am good with gparted. lol [21:27] ibouvousaime, do you have a blank cd/dvd? [21:29] humm let me search a bit [21:30] I found a cd [21:30] I had to reinstall Android Studio, and now I have a "dead" link in the menu, that doesn't show up in the "Menu Editor" how do I get rid of it? [21:31] is it blank and how big is it ibouvousaime ? [21:31] 700 mb its not black I think [21:31] blank* [21:32] is it a cd-rw and is the stuff on it important? [21:33] Hi, does anyone have any idea why the shortcut for muting my microphone (FN+F4) on my Dell Latitude E5250 is working under Ubuntu but doesn't work under Xubuntu? [21:34] ohh noo I didnt notice [21:34] its not blank [21:34] a found a lot more but none if them is blank [21:35] I will keep searching [21:35] lol [21:35] for the cd-rw s lol [21:35] xD [21:36] lol ok. [21:37] I have a dead link in my Applications menu, i.e., there is no .desktop link for it in /usr/share/Applications - and it doesn't show up under the built in Menu Editor. How do I get rid of this dead link? === UllarahDerp is now known as Ullarah === lderan_ is now known as lderan [21:40] I know that there were several bugs filed for Ubuntu regarding the Mic mute shortcut not working and under Ubuntu this was fixed but that isn't the case for Xubuntu [21:41] qkzoo1978, how long have that dead link been there I mean how long since it died did it stay there ? [21:41] A couple of weeks ago [21:42] I had uninstalled Android Studio, and then installed a fresh copy. So now I have two AS shortcuts in the Applications menu, but one is dead. [21:44] in the built-in menu editor is there a button that says delete qkzoo1978 ? [21:44] It doesn't show up under the built in menu editor or alacarte [21:48] Does anyone have any idea why the shortcut for muting my microphone (FN+F4) on my Dell Latitude E5250 is working under Ubuntu but doesn't work under Xubuntu? [21:49] what DE are you using if you dont mind me asking qkzoo1978 ? [21:49] oops, xfce. lol sorry.. [21:49] Xubuntu lol [21:50] it's 14.04 though :) [21:50] qkzoo1978, go to ~/.config/xfce4/menus and delete it from there and you should be good to go. [21:50] ok cool, yeah i use a distro that is built on 14.04 for that lts support too. [21:50] i am also using one that is based on 15.04 too though. [21:51] Ya, I don't like a lot of change, I will eventually upgrade to 15.04. [21:51] i hear you..well even if you wait until 16.04 for the next lts its almost right around the corner. 15.10 is already under development you know what i mean? [21:52] Yep :) [21:52] unless the next lts is farther away than that..forget now. i lost track of it all. [21:53] There is no ~/.config/xfce4/menus [21:56] applications qkzoo1978 , i am trying to remember right off of the head..i know that its in there though. [21:57] if you check the folders in ~/.config you will find it for sure though. [21:58] pencilandpaper: Isn't it ~/.local/share/applications? [21:59] Ok, under ~/.config/menus I found xfce-applications.menu, but the bad Android Studio link isn't in there oO [21:59] drc, it could be in there too..but i know that you can also get rid of a menu entry in ~/.config as well..especially a wine menu entry. [21:59] ok qkzoo1978 , then drc may be right..and thanks drc . :) [22:00] pencilandpaper: Ok, from qkzoo1978 last post I now understand you were looking for afce-applications.menu. [22:01] but I'd still look in ~/.local/share/applications [22:01] no, he is actually looking for a bad Android Studio link drc ..and wants to remove it so that his menu doesnt have that in it after uninstalling it. [22:02] That's it! [22:02] check /usr/share/menu as well qkzoo1978 . [22:02] Bad link was under .local/share/applications [22:02] nice. [22:04] Is there anyone that could help me out? [22:04] Thanks yo, that bad link was driving me bonkers. [22:04] The Microphone Mute button of my laptop's keyboard (FN+F4) is not working under Xubuntu [22:05] It's working fine under Ubuntu though, where can i file a bug specificly for Xubuntu? [22:05] i know right, i try and get stuff like that cleaned up to qkzoo1978 ..for real. [22:06] Yep, I'm a clean freak, even on my pc [22:06] @Giraffe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/90513/how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu check that out? [22:08] nm there's no audio shortcuts in there. [22:08] thanks qkzoo1978 but there's no audo shortcuts in there [22:08] was already looking there [22:09] Thing is Ubuntu had the same problem but it was fixed for Ubuntu : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1381856 [22:09] Ubuntu bug 1381856 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Utopic) "[Dell Latitude E5550] Microphone mute key does not work on this system" [Undecided,New] [22:10] ditto qkzoo1978 . [22:11] The led of the Mic-mute key is working fine however, when i mute the mic via software the led turns on like it shoud [22:12] I think it's really a matter of Xubuntu not recognizing FN+F4, is there a place where i can file a Xubunt-specific bug, regarding this problem? [22:20] Could i file a bugreport at bugs.launchpad.net or do they only handle Ubuntu (not Xubuntu?) [22:28] Don't tell me there isn't a way to report bugs regarding Xubuntu.... === nopf_ is now known as nopf [22:38] pencilandpaper, I tried the minitools partition, everything seemed to be working well expept the fact that I wasnt able to move the slider to resize the partition [22:40] bummer. [22:41] bummer ? [22:43] OH XD [22:43] looool [22:46] :) [22:47] old gparted version are small xDD [22:47] coool [22:50] :) [22:54] I will get a 2011 version lool [22:54] xD [22:55] you really arent feeling puppy i see huh? === Unit193 is now known as TheMaster === Guest18267 is now known as IdleOne