[06:36] <Kilos> morning all
[06:46] <Private_User1> morning Kilos
[07:06] <Kilos> very cold here
[07:25] <Cryterion> morning everyone
[07:25] <Kilos> hi Cryterion  
[07:32] <Kilos> we had 1 hour shedding last night from 8pm to 9 pm but i was already snug in bed and didnt see my way clear to start freezing all over again
[07:56] <mazal> Mornings
[07:59] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[07:59] <mazal> Gaanit oom ?
[07:59] <Kilos> koud maar goed dankie en jy?
[08:00] <mazal> Ok dankie , raasie baie nie
[10:03] <Kilos> squish102  is it your connection or your client timing out all the time?
[10:14] <MaNI> unreliable american internet :p
[10:24] <Kilos> ah
[10:33] <Kilos> aw telkom dropping the 2+1 promo
[10:33] <Kilos> http://newsletters.mybroadband.co.za/lt.php?c=525&m=540&nl=2&s=bf7acfe2dfd656e64c262fe9165a0e17&lid=12251&l=-http--mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/129836-new-telkom-mobile-data-prices-unveiled.html
[10:57] <inetpro> good afternoon
[10:58] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[10:58]  * inetpro just ran out of data and realised things have changed at Telkom mobile
[10:58] <inetpro> no more 2+1
[11:02] <Kilos> ya inetpro  but the 3g for 199 is close
[11:02] <Kilos> anytime
[11:02] <Kilos> ill use the 2 g for 139
[11:03] <Kilos> the night surfer data killed me
[11:10] <inetpro> Kilos: right at 6c per MB vs the old 5c per MB I guess we can't complain too much
[11:10] <inetpro> just wish we could get below 1c per MB at some point
[11:12] <inetpro> night surfer was really handy for updates at night
[11:13] <inetpro> guess we need a new strategy now
[11:15] <inetpro> but looks like the new deals are no longer just restricted to Telkom's own network like the old promos
[11:15] <inetpro> at least that is a good thing
[11:23] <Kilos> yeah
[11:24] <Kilos> i wonder if expiry dates change or if its still end of next calender month
[11:26] <inetpro> good question 
[11:27] <Kilos> hi smile  
[11:27] <Kilos> :)
[11:27] <smile> hi Kilos :D
[12:21] <inetpro> hmm... 
[12:21] <Kilos> Maaz  hmm...
[12:21] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[12:22] <inetpro> how do I save a byobu session's output into a logfile?
[12:22] <Kilos> carefully
[12:22]  * Kilos ducks
[12:25] <inetpro> ai!
[12:27] <Kilos> google is YOUR friend
[12:27] <inetpro> Kilos: I would have accepted man byobu from you but "carefully"?
[12:28] <Kilos> lol
[12:28] <inetpro> Ctrl-a ~ - Save the current window's scrollback buffer
[12:28] <inetpro> that ^^ is not what I want
[12:28] <Kilos> why do you want to save it
[12:28] <Kilos> pipe it
[12:29] <inetpro> ai!
[12:29] <inetpro> when running a job it often happens that you have a large amount of output
[12:30] <Kilos> i dont run with things i push slowly
[12:30] <inetpro> and sometimes you only realise later that you want to go back up to see errors or anything else in the output
[12:30] <Kilos> aha
[12:31] <Kilos> i often wanted to do that with my scripts that run while booting
[12:31] <inetpro> problem comes in when you output is larger than the screen buffer
[12:31] <Kilos> cant you let it use some ram?
[12:31] <inetpro> no man
[12:31] <Kilos> i saw something somewhwere about sharing
[12:32] <inetpro> I just want the output to go to file... but it's actually simple anyway
[12:32] <Kilos> lol
[12:32] <Kilos> good
[12:32] <inetpro> just need to tee the output to file
[12:33] <Kilos> t different to pipe?
[12:33] <Kilos> 2 ways
[12:36] <inetpro> Kilos: for example: sudo apt-get upgrade | sudo tee /root/upgrade_20150721.log
[12:36] <Kilos> sudo
[12:36] <Kilos> well at least you had to pipe it too
[12:37] <Kilos> oh i forgot to say obviously
[12:38] <Kilos> im still using aptitude upgrade and nothing broke so far
[12:39] <Kilos> maybe they fixed the multiarch thing
[12:41]  * inetpro still uses aptitude for the superior search functionality 
[13:14] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:25] <squish102> Kilos: no idea what was going on with internet, before last night, i have had about 4 outages in the year according to pingdom report
[13:26] <squish102> they doing some line upgrades in the area, maybe they were working on that (now that google fiber is in the area)
[13:27] <squish102> surprising all you need is google fiber to threaten to roll out and suddenly my 30mbit connection is running at 200mbit with no cost increase
[13:28] <Kilos> ok
[13:29] <squish102> isp's must be the worste most hated companies
[13:29] <Kilos> lol
[13:37] <inetpro> squish102: how's this for motivation?
[13:37] <inetpro> a friend of mine just sent me a screenshot of his speedtest of 96Mbps with a ping speed of just 10ms
[13:37] <inetpro> he just got himself fibre optic installed for his business
[13:38]  * inetpro :-{   <sulking>
[14:11] <Kilos> lol
[14:11] <Kilos> once you see what it is capable of everything else sucks
[15:20] <Kilos> inetpro  did you see what areas went off at 8pm last night
[15:20] <Kilos> i only had one hour off
[15:21] <inetpro> Kilos: http://www.tshwane.gov.za/sites/Departments/Public-works-and-infrastructure/Pages/Load-Shedding.aspx
[15:23] <inetpro> Kilos: STAGE 2 last night between 20:00 - 22:30 was scheduled for areas 10, 8
[15:23] <Kilos> ai! they still havent fixed it
[15:23] <inetpro> in other words you must be either 10 or 8
[15:23] <Kilos> oh yay
[15:25] <Kilos> ok so i wont be offline on tuesday night
[15:25] <Kilos> inetpro  ty. will you be here?
[15:25] <inetpro> dunno
[15:25] <Kilos> http://www.tshwane.gov.za/sites/Departments/Public-works-and-infrastructure/Pages/Load-Shedding.aspx
[15:25] <Kilos> look 
[15:26] <Kilos> you the chair remember
[15:26] <inetpro> tis a gamble sir
[15:26] <inetpro> I'm scheduled for loadshedding, but who knows
[15:26] <Kilos> what area are you then
[15:27] <inetpro> is it important?
[15:27] <Kilos> well i want to make sure that you will be here
[15:27] <Kilos> oh ya forgot fone
[15:27] <Kilos> edge is fine for irc
[15:27] <inetpro> ai!
[15:27]  * inetpro just told him
[15:28] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm scheduled for loadshedding, but who knows
[15:28] <inetpro> maybe they don't, maybe they do
[15:28] <Kilos> ai! you so cheeky
[15:29] <Kilos> i want to inform them that we need you at that time
[15:29] <Kilos> and of course it is important
[15:29] <inetpro> there's nothing cheeky about it, I simply do not know what the future holds
[15:29] <inetpro> Kilos: I forgot one thing
[15:29] <Kilos> oh i thought you were clairvoyant
[15:30] <inetpro> perhaps I can still try via MTN
[15:30] <Kilos> eish
[15:30] <inetpro> my daughter has MTN
[15:30]  * inetpro will test later tonight
[15:30] <Kilos> ok then ty for your input sir
[15:32] <inetpro> Kilos: now I just need to make a plan with light on the keyboard... using a torch gets tricky
[15:33] <Kilos> i am gonna try leds fed from usb
[15:34] <Kilos> i have some leds from a bust infra red massager
[19:31] <Kilos> load shedding huh!
[19:34] <Kilos> hi superfly  ThatGraemeGuy  
[19:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[19:35] <superfly> hi Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy
[19:35]  * superfly hasn't had any Load Shedding the last few days
[19:35] <Kilos> lucky you, sshhhh dont let them hear
[19:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> because City of Cape Town has their s**t together :)
[19:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> eskom says stage 3, CoCT says nah, we've got extra, we'll do stage 1
[19:36] <Kilos> lol
[19:36] <Kilos> we just did stage 1
[19:37] <Kilos> 1 1/2 hours
[19:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm referring to yesterday
[19:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> eskom stage 1 now, city of cape town says nah we have extra, no load shedding, enjoy your lights cape town peeps
[19:37] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:42] <jan_> Hi Kilos 
[19:42] <Kilos> hi Langjan  
[19:42] <jan_> you ok afte sitting in the dark?
[19:42] <Kilos> lol ya just cold
[19:42] <Kilos> how are you sir?
[19:42] <Kilos> what did you break?
[19:43] <Kilos> hehe
[19:43] <jan_> fine thks, glad the days are growing longer again
[19:43] <Kilos> whew but so slow
[19:43] <jan_> broke my geyswer, heating water by the fireplace 
[19:43] <Kilos> eish
[19:43] <jan_> geyser
[19:44] <Kilos> i understan most typos
[19:44] <Kilos> i also have old cold fingers
[19:44] <jan_> replacing with solar, happening tomorrow
[19:44] <Kilos> good
[19:44] <Kilos> costly though
[19:44] <jan_> oh, mine are warm and sensitive, its the brain regulating thats rusty
[19:45] <Kilos> lol
[19:45] <jan_> well it pays for itself in about 2 years, after that your in the green
[19:45] <Kilos> electricity as well or only water?
[19:45] <jan_> both, but I am told you hardly ever switch on
[19:46] <jan_> oh sorry
[19:46] <Kilos> switch on what?
[19:46] <Kilos> who told you that????
[19:46] <jan_> misunderstood, only water, heating via solar or switch on for electricity
[19:47] <Kilos> aha
[19:47] <Kilos> yes with our sun you should be fine
[19:47] <jan_> normal geyser, replaced by insurance, I only pay for the solar part
[19:47] <Kilos> cool
[19:48] <jan_> no hot!
[19:48] <jan_> yea, and cool!
[19:48] <Kilos> lol ou man thats a new word for great
[19:48] <Kilos> you havent read my wiki page
[19:49] <jan_> Ja eks darem nie so oud nie, leer by die kinders die nuwe goeters
[19:49] <jan_> no, link? 
[19:49] <Kilos> i said there ive even learned to say cool when it has nothing to do with temperature
[19:49] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:49] <jan_> Like its cool when it's hot
[19:50] <Kilos> haha
[19:50] <jan_> Link to wiki page plse
[19:50] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos
[19:51] <Kilos> i had to open a browser to search for it
[19:51] <Kilos> other peeps remember theirs
[19:54] <jan_> Hey Kilos that site is really cool. Did not know about your injury, great to see how you have recovered and not taken it lying down. 
[19:54] <Kilos> oh my
[19:54] <MaNI> ThatGraemeGuy, what I'd like to know is why they haven't done it before then, I mean its not like steenbraas popped up out of nowhere its 40 years old :p
[19:54] <Kilos> i lay down for years
[19:55] <MaNI> also is 160MW really enough to cover the amount of power eskom wanted to recover from capetown in stage 3, it seems low
[19:56] <MaNI> if all capetown needs to stop load shedding is 160MW why haven't they built a 160MW solar farm yet :p
[19:56] <MaNI> story is cool but it leaves me somewhat confused
[19:57] <jan_> Meant it figuratively speaking. Lying down. The last part is over my head, how to add comments. Why do the Linux peeps make things so damn complicated? 
[19:58] <Kilos> haha thats hard work Langjan  
[19:58] <Kilos> you have to edit the page
[19:59] <Kilos> but that page was made for when i applied for membership
[19:59] <jan_> Well it says add below - you edit from the top menu!
[19:59] <Kilos> im lost
[20:00] <Kilos> MaNI  confused?
[20:00] <MaNI> Kilos, http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Eskom/Cape-Town-beats-evening-load-shedding-peak-20150621
[20:01] <MaNI> the city of capetown loadshedding thing ThatGraemeGuy was talking about
[20:01] <Kilos> its all about money
[20:01] <Kilos> if everyone wasnt so money hungry the cities would have their own power going by now
[20:03] <inetpro> oh Kilos, my 3GB purchased this afternoon expires on Fri, 31 Jul 2015
[20:03] <Kilos> yay ty inetpro  
[20:04] <Kilos> im glad they dropped the night surfer thing 
[20:05] <inetpro> Kilos: me also to be honest
[20:05] <Kilos> lol
[20:06] <inetpro> but it was useful for the kids
[20:06] <Kilos> ya we not owls
[20:06] <Kilos> do they stay up to use it?
[20:06] <jan_> Hi Kilos  the @ SIG @ thing does not work. I give up trying to contribute to Linux forums, the others are straightforward.   
[20:06] <Kilos> inetpro  please help Langjan  
[20:06] <inetpro> well, early mornings they could go mad... within reason
[20:07] <inetpro> which often doesdn't stay within reason obviously
[20:07] <jan_> ek het gese wat ek wil vir nou, gaan noe skottelgoed was en slaap
[20:07] <inetpro> hence me running out of data very quickly too often
[20:08] <Kilos> mooi om jan
[20:08] <Kilos> lekker werk en slaap warm
[20:08] <jan_> Lekker slaap kilos
[20:08] <jan_> dankie moi loop
[20:08] <inetpro> good evening oom jan_
[20:08] <Kilos> dankie
[20:08] <inetpro> oh and good night
[20:08] <jan_> 'night inetpro 
[20:08] <Kilos> dont be so scarce old man
[20:08] <jan_> see you around shortly, I hope
[20:09] <Kilos> meeting tuesday night
[20:09] <jan_> wont be here sorry
[20:09] <Kilos> np
[20:09] <inetpro> ai!
[20:09] <Kilos> go safe where ever you are
[20:09] <jan_> wats np?
[20:09] <Kilos> no problem
[20:09] <jan_> Thanks Kilos in Pretoria with the kids
[20:09] <Kilos> enjoy
[20:10] <jan_> thks
[20:28] <Kilos> hi smile  
[20:32] <smile> Hi! :)
[20:33] <smile> I got ownership of the GitHub project VLC Lyrics Finder
[20:34] <smile> :-D
[20:34] <Kilos> is that good
[20:34] <smile> Thats great! :-D
[20:34] <smile> Its like having no boss
[20:34] <Kilos> well done then
[20:34] <smile> :-D
[20:37] <smile> I accomplished a lot today while I did not do a lot :-O
[20:38] <smile> More goals reached than what I held for possible in one day
[20:38] <Kilos> thats the way to get ahead
[20:39] <smile> Yes! Now I still need to find a girlfriend :-P
[20:39] <inetpro> tomorrow is another day
[20:39] <inetpro> good night everyone
[20:39] <smile> And get a student job
[20:39] <smile> Night!
[20:39] <Kilos> night inetpro  sleep tight
[20:40] <smile> I still have over 2500 bookmarks, Kilos 
[20:40] <Kilos> get the job first
[20:40] <Kilos> girlfriend once you are established
[20:40] <smile> I will try. ;-)
[20:40] <Kilos> lol
[20:41] <smile> :-D
[20:41] <Kilos> Maaz  seen confluency
[20:41] <Maaz> Kilos: confluency was last seen 1 month, 25 days, 5 hours, 11 minutes and 18 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-04-27 08:30:25 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-06-17 09:53:51 PDT
[20:41] <smile> Okay lets make tuesday job hunting day
[20:42] <smile> Maaz seen gremble
[20:42] <Maaz> smile: gremble was last seen 1 day, 23 hours, 4 minutes and 15 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-06-19 14:37:50 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-06-19 16:47:24 PDT
[20:42] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:42] <smile> I miss gremble
[20:42] <smile> He was going to help me
[20:44] <Kilos> he is most likely busy somewhere
[20:45] <smile> Probably. But the help I need probably takes only 10 minutes
[20:45] <smile> He would translate a few sentences for me 
[20:45] <Kilos> he also house sits for peeps with no internet
[20:46] <Kilos> to what language?
[20:46] <smile> How old is he?
[20:46] <superfly> o_0 there are people who have no internet!?!?!
[20:46] <superfly> GASP
[20:46] <Kilos> i suppose close to 30
[20:46] <Kilos> lol
[20:46] <smile> From English to Afrikaans. But I asked him and he said yes so I will poke him again :)
[20:47] <Kilos> maybe 25 i forget
[20:47] <smile> Not 20 like me
[20:47] <smile> :-P
[20:47] <Kilos> or paste it and ill try
[20:47] <superfly> smile: how long is it?
[20:48] <smile> A few texts
[20:48] <smile> 15 or so
[20:48] <smile> Very small ones
[20:49] <smile> You should checkout http://github.com/Smile4ever/VLC-Lyrics-Finder and scroll to the bottom
[20:53] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:54] <smile> Whats the matter? :)
[20:54] <Kilos> do you want to translate lyrics
[20:55] <smile> Nope
[20:55] <smile> Just the interface
[21:00] <smile> I will show you a screenshot later
[21:00] <smile> ;-)
[21:02] <Kilos> what project vlc trnas?
[21:02] <Kilos> trans
[21:02] <Kilos> smile  ^^
[21:02] <smile> ? :-O
[21:03] <Kilos> well it asked what project i want to join
[21:03] <Kilos> https://www.transifex.com/connect/projects/
[21:04] <smile> Vlc lyrics finder
[21:04] <smile> :)
[21:04] <Kilos> it doesnt show there
[21:05] <Kilos> got it
[21:05] <smile> :-D
[21:06] <Kilos> do you see me there
[21:07] <Kilos> why you come with this stuff so late at night
[21:08] <smile> You can do it tomorrow, too :-P and you dont even have to do it :)
[21:09] <smile> I cant because my pc is off :-P but I guess you joined the right project
[21:09] <Kilos> i will look at it tomorrow but trying to get the registration done before i leave
[21:09] <smile> You just need to confirm your email thats all
[21:10] <Kilos> ok then see you tomorrow
[21:10] <Kilos> i joined the afrikaans team but think its only me there
[21:10] <smile> Thats correct.
[21:10] <smile> :)
[21:11] <Kilos> lol
[21:11] <smile> You are the only one
[21:11] <smile> There is no team yet
[21:11] <smile> :-D
[21:11] <Kilos> oh my
[21:12] <smile> Because you are the only one
[21:12] <smile> :)
[21:12] <smile> For Afrikaans
[21:12] <Kilos> lol
[21:12] <smile> There is a team that contains all translators though
[21:13] <Kilos> nono i just wanted to see what you want translated
[21:14] <Kilos> would have been easier if you just pasted the text you wanted done
[21:14] <Kilos> this joining and stuff sjoe
[21:14] <smile> Sorry :-P
[21:14] <Kilos> np
[21:15] <Kilos> see you tomorrow then
[21:15] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:15] <smile> Good night :)
[22:05] <smile> Slaapwel :)