[00:00] <daftykins> !who
[00:11] <Dr_Dan_> seeing oddness in 14.04 LTS with suspend/resume.  after resume i get login and then complete login only to get to a black screen.  nothing escapes black screen accept another quick press of the "POWER" button.  then i get another login screen
[00:12] <Dr_Dan_> this is on a ASUS laptop
[00:12] <Dr_Dan_> second login works and i see my desktop
[00:12] <Dr_Dan_> any idea?
[00:16] <daftykins> Dr_Dan_: check your user's ~ for any files not owned by you, then consider renaming .config to .configold
[00:20] <Dr_Dan_> hmm.   the whole .config directory?  thats a lot of stuff to basically throw out
[00:20] <daftykins> Dr_Dan_: you're just testing, which is why i said rename.
[00:20] <Dr_Dan_> ok.  gotcha
[00:20] <daftykins> Dr_Dan_: but you checked ownership first right?
[00:20] <Bashing-om> Dr_Dan_: Humm .. Graphics driver not loadong on 1st attempt ?? On that 1st attempt; -crl+alt+F1 to gain a console. terminal command ' sudo lshw -C display ' In the configuration line what driver is loaded ? repeat after the desktop is gained, now what driver is indicated ?
[00:20] <Dr_Dan_> checking
[00:21] <Dr_Dan_> Bashing-on,   its just intel HD graphics
[00:22] <Bashing-om> Dr_Dan_: That theory of mine is out the window, as Intel "just works" .
[00:23] <Dr_Dan_> its weird that only happens after resume.  i get a login (logind?)  but after login it goes black.  only thing that gets me thru is the second press of POWER button which produces a another login
[00:23] <Dr_Dan_> then at 2nd login i can get thru to desktop
[00:23] <daftykins> oh this is post sleep, ok
[00:23] <daftykins> not cold boot?
[00:24] <Dr_Dan_> nope.  never cold boot
[00:24] <daftykins> ah my ideas are pretty much irrelevant then
[00:24] <daftykins> but won't hurt
[00:25] <Dr_Dan_> i feel like there are two sleep (hibernate)  processes going.   then one gets cut-off midstream by the other which is faster at bringing the laptop down.   next when the laptop comes back up,  that seconds sleep process "thinks" it did not finish its job and tries to take the laptop down to s4/s5 again
[00:26] <daftykins> i would read some logs before making up stories like that :)
[00:26] <Dr_Dan_> well,  true.   but thats my hunch
[00:27] <Dr_Dan_> ok.  back to looking at files and "hiding"  the .config
[00:33] <Dr_Dan_> ok.  so closing the lid is one kind of 'sleep request'  but  choosing 'suspend to ram' from logout menu is another.  i am  correct?
[00:34] <Dr_Dan_> *am i correct?
[00:34] <daftykins> simple test, disable sleep on lid close
[00:34] <Dr_Dan_> i think i got it
[00:34] <Dr_Dan_> it only occurs from the "lid close" sleep request.  not the other
[00:36] <jimcornette> Weee
[00:37] <Dr_Dan_> yes.  suspend-to-ram seems to work perfectly
[00:37] <Dr_Dan_> however,  lid-close-then-open,   is causing the blank screen after a login.
[00:38] <daftykins> so disable it =|
[00:38] <Dr_Dan_> hmm.  i actually lose the session.
[00:38] <Dr_Dan_> its starts a new one
[00:39] <Dr_Dan_> daftykins, is that in dconf editor?
[00:39] <daftykins> it's in GUI settings i'm sure
[00:40] <veryhappy> hello guys. is it possible to wake up an ubuntu server in standby with multicast over wol or does it just work while powered off?
[00:42] <murod> murad-raxmonov85@mail.ru
[00:44] <Dr_Dan_> daftykins, i feel like ASUS hardware is doing somekind of suspend when lid closes.   on top of that, the kernel is also doing a suspend.
[00:45] <daftykins> i don't think so
[00:45] <Dr_Dan_> ok.  i'll keep digging.  and i did replace .config and it didnt change
[00:46] <daftykins> yeah that was before i understood the actual issue
[00:49] <Dr_Dan_> i checked on the web.  i read that you can place this in logind.conf:      HandlePowerKey=ignore   HandleSuspendKey=ignore  HandleHibernateKey=ignore  HandleLidSwitch=ignore
[00:49] <Dr_Dan_> each on a seperate line
[00:52] <Dr_Dan_> im guessing putting HandleLidSwitch=ignore   into logind.conf  would be enough to fix issue
[00:56] <Dr_Dan_> that did it
[00:57] <Dr_Dan_> i can close lid.  laptop stays on.  screen turns off.   open lid.   screen wakes up and im right where i was
[00:58] <Dr_Dan_> suspend-to-ram still works bringing the laptop down to s5
[00:59] <Bashing-om> Dr_Dan_: :) Great, when you are good, you are good . Appreciate the solution.
[01:00] <reese> hello?
[01:00] <Dr_Dan_> reese, just ask a question
[01:00] <reese> i need help installing FSX on ubuntu
[01:01] <reese> can u help
[01:01] <reese> i have it off steam and it is installed but when i play and go to select my aircraft it turns black
[01:04] <reese> can u help me with this?
[01:04] <Dr_Dan_> sorry.  i run FlightGear  mostly.  its free
[01:05] <reese> oh
[01:05] <Dr_Dan_> try avsim.net  or .com   website
[01:06] <Dr_Dan_> http://forum.avsim.net/
[01:06] <Dr_Dan_> ask in there ^
[01:06] <x_root> hello, how can i delete a file that "is not there" on nautilus but i can find on locate?
[01:07] <Dr_Dan_> which file?
[01:07] <x_root> moved some files to the trash and then deleted them.. still, i can find them on locate (till a restart, i couldn't have the space..)
[01:07] <x_root> some videos Dr_Dan_
[01:07] <reese> i already asked there they said ask my OS
[01:08] <daftykins> reese: what's your graphics hardware?
[01:08] <reese> good enough for fsx
[01:08] <reese> i got a i7
[01:09] <daftykins> so intel on-die graphics?
[01:10] <daftykins> or a card...
[01:10] <reese> yes
[01:10] <daftykins> which ubuntu?
[01:10] <maja> help my ubuntu 14 seems stuck making the screen dimmer
[01:10] <reese> 15.04
[01:10] <maja> i can turn it up but after a while it just turns it down
[01:12] <Dr_Dan_> x_root,  you could open a terminal and type:  rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*       that will remove all files in your trash
[01:13] <maja> pls help i been using it for many years but why must i go dim :(
[01:13] <x_root> there's already nothing there Dr_Dan_ :(
[01:15] <Dr_Dan_> hmm.  locate is just a database.   perhaps it just needs to be refresh with new data about where stuff is  ( or is not )  .   i believe updatedb is the command you want
[01:17] <x_root> Dr_Dan_, "not possible to open a temporary file to "var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db"
[01:18] <daftykins> updtedb requires sudo
[01:18] <daftykins> *updatedb
[01:18] <Dr_Dan_> yeppers!
[01:18] <Dr_Dan_> thanks daftykins
[01:18] <maja> no one knows my pain ? or can no one hear me ?
[01:19] <daftykins> !repeat | maja
[01:19] <Dr_Dan_> maja,   what model laptop.   and are you using FN keys?
[01:20]  * Dr_Dan_ knows this one alrady
[01:21] <maja> Dr_Dan_: sorry you don't know how fustrating it is, i have tried google no luck just tells me how todo
[01:21] <maja> Dr_Dan_: acer aspire 1
[01:21] <Dr_Dan_> maja,  you will need to edit grub.conf  and add a line to tell kernel about acpi_backlight
[01:21] <maja> key comobo <fn> <arrow up>
[01:21] <x_root> Dr_Dan_, thanks, it worked :D
[01:21] <Dr_Dan_> x_root, np
[01:21] <maja> in /etc ?
[01:22] <Dr_Dan_> yes.  its rather complicated and best if you google for the fix for your aspire
[01:22] <maja> i'll look closer
[01:22] <Dr_Dan_> maja, good luck
[01:23] <maja> da
[01:23] <acro458> Logged in as "user". Forgot root password. Want to change root password. Type in "passwd root", says I cannot change root password. Type in "sudo passwd root", asks for user password. Type in user password. Asks for new password twice (doesnt specify which user it is changing). Changes root password.....I thought this was not supposed to work?
[01:23] <maja> been runing say ssyetm same laptop for years
[01:23] <daftykins> there is no root password.
[01:23] <x_root> o/
[01:24] <acro458> there is clearly a root password
[01:24] <daftykins> maybe in your situation, but you're breaking one of ubuntu's key principles :)
[01:24] <Dr_Dan_> acro458, is this a new ubunbtu 14/15 installation
[01:24] <acro458> yes
[01:24] <maja> Dr_Dan_: say while i have you for some reason the main admin pannel has lost its pannels
[01:24] <maja> arlen: i think in ubuntu there is no root account so no root pass
[01:25] <maja> sorry wrong person
[01:25] <arlen> :)
[01:25] <acro458> there IS a root account.. You do "su -" and it logs in as root
[01:25] <Dr_Dan_> acro458, is user also an admin?
[01:25] <Dr_Dan_> you can sudo most anything
[01:25] <acro458> I believe so
[01:25] <acro458> Dont know for sure
[01:26] <acro458> I did "sudo passwd root", and I changed the root password
[01:26] <maja> sudo -s isn't root account
[01:26] <acro458> really? When I do "su -", it logs me in as root@computer
[01:27] <Dr_Dan_> maja,   which panels are now missing?
[01:28] <maja> most of them
[01:28] <Dr_Dan_> :)
[01:28] <Dr_Dan_> hmmm.   ok.   never thought about this before.   gimme a sec
[01:28] <maja> i installed confzconfig to mannge my v desktops
[01:28] <maja> might of done it
[01:29] <maja> maybe i should just update to 15
[01:29] <maja> how much longer is shelf life ?
[01:30] <Dr_Dan_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/204428/unity-missing-cant-see-top-or-side-panels
[01:30] <mekhami> idk what i did but i now have a robot voice speaking every button i press and everything i mouse over
[01:30] <mekhami> please help hahahaha
[01:30] <Dr_Dan_> maja,  ^^
[01:31] <Dafonz> hello - i'm trying to get SSH working on 14.04 LTS with key pairs.. created SSH and chmod to 700 (owned by the user) and created authorized_keys which I pasted output from puttygen into (from the box for openSSH authorize_keys). Still can't seem to log in. /var/log/auth.log is also blank.. I deleted it hoping it'd recreate, but permissions?
[01:33] <Dr_Dan_> mekhami,   System Preferences -->  Universal Access .    turn off Screen Reader
[01:34] <nath3lf> Hi, I jacked up my laptop and I'm wondering if there is a way I can make a disk image like on windows so when I get a new one I can restore it to that image
[01:35] <maja> Dr_Dan_: dankie !
[01:36] <Dr_Dan_> nath3lf, ever use Clonezilla?
[01:36] <Dr_Dan_> its like Ghost
[01:36] <SchrodingersScat> !cloning | nath3lf , maybe also see !backup
[01:37] <SchrodingersScat> that's not it...
[01:37] <Dr_Dan_> lol
[01:37] <Dr_Dan_> nath3lf, try clonezilla
[01:38] <SchrodingersScat> if you already have a ubuntu liveusb hanging around you can do the same things, depends on what you want
[01:38] <Dr_Dan_> get the system the way you want it,  i.e.  with all the programs,  and accessories installed,   then  use clonezilla to make a prestine copy.
[01:39] <Dr_Dan_> SchrodingersScat, some things are just easier to use
[01:39] <Dr_Dan_> especially if you already know ghost and such
[01:41] <Dr_Dan_> Dafonz, sorry.  i guess no one knows much about the ssh keys.   i hope you find an answer.   you can ask on monday when there's way more ppl around
[01:44] <Dafonz> Dr_Dan_: no worries. I'll just have to google more :)
[01:46] <h3xploit> quit
[01:48] <spdr> Hi, I have a question. Why $ set bell-style visible doesn't affect readline's variable? $ xset q 2>&1 | grep bell; prints still "set bell-style audible".
[01:50] <spdr> Anyone?
[01:55] <Dr_Dan_> sorry.  brb
[01:55] <pc-moon> hello
[01:56] <pc-moon> i get this message after upgrade php to 5.5
[01:56] <pc-moon>  * Starting web server apache2                                                  env: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: No such file or directory
[01:56] <pc-moon>                                                                          [fail]
[01:56] <spdr> pc-moon: mayby try to reinstall php
[01:59] <pc-moon> ok
[02:00] <spdr> pc-moon: *apache, apache. The package with apache2ctl.
[02:01] <pc-moon> i dont know
[02:55] <wangshidong> is there anyone use ubuntu 15.04
[03:15] <Dr_Dan> Bashing-om, where you here when i talked about the laptop sleep problem
[03:16] <AW350ME> hello i want to change my login password to ubuntu say password is too weak but i want to use it anyway how may i?
[03:16] <Dr_Dan> turns out that logind and xcfe-power-manager were in some conflict
[03:16] <Dr_Dan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1349056
[03:17] <EriC^> AW350ME: use sudo to set it, sudo passwd <user>
[03:17] <backbox_> hiiiiiii
[03:17] <EriC^> AW350ME: use sudo to set it, sudo passwd <user>
[03:17] <Dr_Dan> i need to uncomment in logind  HandleLidSwitch=ignore
[03:17] <AW350ME> ty EriC^
[03:17] <Dr_Dan> and that worked  ;-)
[03:17] <EriC^> np
[03:19] <AW350ME> how do i change my name in term EriC^
[03:19] <EriC^> what do you mean?
[03:20] <stiv2k> hi
[03:20] <AW350ME> i change my name but it doesnt say in settings
[03:20] <stiv2k> how do i figure out what is preventing sleep on my system? I set it to sleep after 5 minutes, does not sleep
[03:20] <AW350ME> oops
[03:20] <AW350ME> i change my name it doesnt say in term
[03:21] <AW350ME> says ablest1980@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$  still
[03:21] <EriC^> type cat /etc/passwd
[03:22] <AW350ME> ok
[03:22] <EriC^> you mean that name?
[03:22] <AW350ME> alot came up
[03:23] <EriC^> AW350ME: the name isn't your username
[03:23] <Dr_Dan> Bashing-om, where you here when i talked about my laptop sleep problem
[03:23] <EriC^> how did you change your name? from settings > users?
[03:23] <AW350ME> says im login as AW350ME
[03:24] <Dr_Dan> turns out that logind and xcfe-power-manager were in some sort of conflict
[03:24] <AW350ME> but term says different
[03:24] <EriC^> type id
[03:24] <AW350ME> ok
[03:25] <AW350ME> says ablest1980 how do i change it?
[03:25] <EriC^> create a new username
[03:25] <AW350ME> but ill lose everything
[03:25] <EriC^> or if you have already, login as that user
[03:25] <AW350ME> i have
[03:25] <AW350ME> login menu says awesome
[03:26] <AW350ME> ill crate a new name ty
[03:26] <AW350ME> Xd
[03:28] <Bashing-om> Dr_Dan: I was aware, and I did congratulate you on your good works. //connectivity issues at this time. so I am spotty here !//
[03:29] <Dr_Dan> i need to uncomment in logind  the line:   HandleLidSwitch=ignore
[03:29] <Dr_Dan> which worked
[03:30] <Dr_Dan> seems to be a problem for me to.  my laptop went to sleep and i had to reconnect to irc.  i got droped
[03:31] <Dr_Dan> OT:  but is there a youtube channel that ppl like for ubuntu/linux tutorials etc...
[03:48] <PanV> Hey, I got a problem with my damn Remote "supportive for computers"
[03:49] <PanV> um.. hi?
[03:50] <potatopotato_po1> Not a lot of people seem to be active here
[03:50] <PanV> ikr
[03:51] <PanV> @potatopotato_pol do you know anything 'bout remotes?
[03:51] <PanV> I used jstest-gtk and soemthing seems wrong
[03:52] <rolandnsharp> Hi I'm having a really frustrating time trying to remap capslock to super. Ideally i will switch capsLock and super but I can't even make the first to work.
[03:53] <PanV> Rolam
[03:53] <rolandnsharp> I've tried: setxkbmap -option caps:super
[03:53] <rolandnsharp> and remove Lock = Caps_Lock add mod4 = Caps_Lock
[03:53] <PanV> roland, if I tell you I don't know how to remap :P
[03:53] <aw350me> hello EriC^
[03:53] <sharknodebot> Hello there aw350me
[03:53] <rolandnsharp> with Xmodmap, no luck
[03:54] <PanV> Omg EriC^ is here :D
[03:54] <PanV> I bet he is afk...
[03:54] <aw350me> how do i change my password in term?
[03:54] <rolandnsharp> I even tried with the Gnome Tweak tool but it doesnt' work
[03:54] <PanV> aw350me, maybe this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/423942/change-password-on-root-user-and-user-account
[03:55] <PanV> I know nothing.
[03:55] <notaeon> jon snow
[03:55] <aw350me> he was
[03:55] <aw350me> ok
[03:55] <aw350me> ty PanV
[03:55] <rolandnsharp> Sigh, key remapping is the thing that frustrates me the most about Linux
[03:55] <PanV> aw350me, could you now help me? and np
[03:56] <gr33n7007h> aw350me: passwd
[03:56] <PanV> rolandnsharp, I don't even know why the right "circle" of the Playstation Styled Remote is being recognised as button 1,2,3,4
[03:56] <PanV> and button 1,2,3,4 is x o Δ And the square
[03:56] <aw350me> gr33n7007h, ?
[03:57] <aw350me> help you with what?
[03:57] <PanV> a dumb remote
[03:57] <aw350me> this isnt playstation help
[03:58] <gr33n7007h> aw350me: how do i change my password in term? didn't you write this?
[03:58] <PanV> aw350me, it is playstation STYLED, but it is for computers only
[03:58] <PanV> check one of its pics here
[03:58] <aw350me> gr33n7007h,  help
[03:58] <PanV> http://www.plaisio.gr/ProductImages/1000x1000/1921193_1.JPG
[03:59] <gr33n7007h> aw350me: with what?
[04:00] <gr33n7007h> aw350me: open terminal, type passwd
[04:00] <aw350me> hello please help
[04:00] <sharknodebot> Hello there aw350me
[04:00] <aw350me> aw350me@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo passwd AW350ME
[04:00] <aw350me> passwd: user 'AW350ME' does not exist
[04:01] <gr33n7007h> aw350me: just type passwd nothing else
[04:01] <aw350me> ok
[04:04] <PanV> help with a remote?
[04:05] <ubuntu543> PanV: Looks more like a #hardware if any help is out there, channel issue.
[04:05] <ubuntu621> Can somebody help me with Xmodmap? please
[04:05] <PanV> ubuntu, thanks
[04:06] <PanV> ubuntu543, I can't send messages there
[04:07] <rolandnsharp> j
[04:09] <jeffklex_> what are the best tools / resources for learning to secure and harden servers running Ubuntu?
[04:09] <ianorlin> jeffklex_: server is a broad topic can you say what kind of server
[04:10] <ianorlin> I would at minimum learn how to setup ssh key only and no root login
[04:10] <jeffklex_> two servers in fact: one is a webapp server running NGINX, Django, Gunicorn; the other is a DB server running postgres
[04:15] <maja> Dr_Dan: didn't get back systom control pannels
[04:16] <maja> but laptop seems to constantly be sending ^@
[04:16] <maja> cleaned keyboard no joy
[04:16] <maja> so even in grub boot menu screen dims !
[04:23] <andrewjs18> hi all, is php 5.4 available for 12.04?
[04:24] <NegativeFlare> andrewjs18: probably not
[04:24] <NegativeFlare> lol
[04:24] <andrewjs18> drat..I probably should upgrade eventually
[04:26] <andrewjs18> I can upgrade directly from 12.04 to 14.04, correct?
[04:27] <EriC^> correct
[04:28] <andrewjs18> cool, thanks
[04:28] <EriC^> no problem
[04:38] <choldrim> hello, is there anyone who encounters a blurred screen under KVM?
[04:42] <choldrim> install ubuntu 14.04 under qemu-kvm 2.0.0, the screen is blurred
[04:51] <al2o3-cr> rolandnsharp74: have you figure it yet?
[04:51] <Guest99407> Anyone here had any luck with getting Debian to run on a PowerMac G5?
[04:53] <al2o3-cr> rolandnsharp74: was it you that wanted you keys remapping?
[04:55] <p0ss1> hi guys, quick question. Just upgraded version and one of my sound sinks seems to have fallen out of sound preferences.  I can see it with pacmd and if i select it in pavucontrol it works just fine, but for some reason sound preferences cant see it at all.   My temporary solution was to create a virtual output device through papref,  but thats a bit of a hack. Is there are better way to add a sink to preferences?
[05:05] <winstonsmith> hello
[05:11] <x_L0k0_x> is it windows 95 support chat?
[05:11] <winstonsmith> What?
[05:12] <x_L0k0_x> i'm trying to upgrade from Windows 3.11
[05:12] <x_L0k0_x> my comp is going BSOD  :(
[05:13] <al2o3-cr> x_L0k0_x: you are on ubuntu using xchat lol
[05:14] <x_L0k0_x> :P
[05:14] <al2o3-cr> :D
[05:15] <x_L0k0_x> i should set up CTCP so it would return Win 3.11
[05:15] <al2o3-cr> heh, yeah :)
[05:15] <x_L0k0_x> old times old times...
[05:19] <choldrim> I have not figure that yet, a12o3-cr
[05:20] <daemongpl> how do you computer?
[05:20] <daemongpl> :p
[05:20] <al2o3-cr> choldrim: not figured what?
[05:20] <winstonsmith> So what DEs are you guys running, mainly?
[05:21] <daemongpl> throw away VM, unity of course
[05:22] <winstonsmith> I've actually never used Unity. I saw it on the Ubuntu website, and decided against it. Haha.
[05:22] <x_L0k0_x> @al2o3-cr  can you check my version?  :)
[05:23] <al2o3-cr> x_L0k0_x: :D nice
[05:23] <x_L0k0_x> r u serios?  I did it?
[05:23] <al2o3-cr> yep :)
[05:23] <x_L0k0_x> LOL
[05:23] <al2o3-cr> heh
[05:24] <x_L0k0_x> thanks :)
[05:24] <x_L0k0_x> made my evening
[05:24] <al2o3-cr> np :)
[05:24] <kaell> any help with video drivers? been away from linux for a while... changed out video card from nvidia to ati...
[05:25] <Jasper_gem> I'm using ubuntu 12.04 is there any way i can force ubuntu to enforce screen margins?
[05:25] <ianorlin> open source or flrgx kaell and what card
[05:25] <winstonsmith> I know AMD/ATI has...issues with Linux drivers, but I've always gone NVIDIA/Intel
[05:25] <kaell> Pref-Monitors says to use my vendors tool instead... when i say yes, it opens nvidia x controls
[05:25] <kaell> current card is ati hd6870
[05:26] <winstonsmith> Have you tried the "Additional Drivers" tool?
[05:27] <kaell> i'm on 10.04lts (just updated from 9.something)
[05:27] <kaell> I see no "additional drivers" tool
[05:27] <kaell> i tried "hardware drivers" but it just is blank
[05:27] <winstonsmith> What distro are you using?
[05:28] <kaell> i tried some recommendation to use apt-get purge to remove all nvidia stuff... but it's still trying to force me to use nvidia x server settings
 i'm on 10.04lts (just updated from 9.something)
[05:28] <kaell> hardware drivers says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this systems"
[05:28] <ianorlin> isn't 10.04 not supported any more?
[05:28] <kaell> hmm, dunno... like i said it's been a while.. just booted old installation and upgraded to 10.04
[05:29] <winstonsmith> It's not. You're going to want to switch to 14.04LTS
[05:29] <al2o3-cr> yep, 10.04 isn't supported
[05:29] <kaell> should i just keep upgrading?
[05:29] <kaell> ok, will upgrade more times... any tips for what to do when that's done?
[05:29] <choldrim__> a12o3-cr: http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/7fe94ec2jw1etbnc3tf1ej20rp0fidmu.jpg
[05:29] <winstonsmith> Go to the additional/hardware drivers, like you did
[05:29] <winstonsmith> It should be listed there, with the upgraded kernel
[05:30] <kaell> ok, will try... thanks
[05:30] <choldrim__> can u see that?
[05:30] <al2o3-cr> choldrim__: see what?
[05:30] <choldrim__> http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/7fe94ec2jw1etbnc3tf1ej20rp0fidmu.jpg
[05:31] <al2o3-cr> choldrim__: it's not opening
[05:31] <choldrim__> ok， wait a moment
[05:32] <andrewjs18> hi folks.  I have a script located inside a directory called cronjobs.  I'm trying to call that script to execute with a crontab, but when the scheduler runs, I think crontab believes the script is a directory and it's erroring out.  is there a way to fix it in my crontab?  this is the error it's emailing to me: /bin/sh: 1: /cronjobs/script: not found
[05:32] <kaell> chmod?
[05:33] <kaell> andrewjs18 - type "man chmod" and look into adding executable bit?
[05:33] <andrewjs18> here's the crontab: 30 4 * * * /cronjobs/script
[05:33] <andrewjs18> kaell, it is executable
[05:35] <andrewjs18> I can run the script manually without problem.  the problem is when I try to call it through crontab.  I think it believes /script is a directory rather than an actual file
[05:36] <kaell> why do you think it thinks it is a directory ?
[05:37] <choldrim__> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xCuhzKFJy8o/VYZM-nIB3BI/AAAAAAAAABk/3KdHA4ay_Ac/w938-h525-no/%25E6%25B7%25B1%25E5%25BA%25A6%25E6%2588%25AA%25E5%259B%25BE20150621132612.png
[05:37] <choldrim__> a12o3-cr: what about this url?
[05:37] <al2o3-cr> yep, i see it
[05:38] <andrewjs18> kaell, because this is the error it sends me in the email: /bin/sh: 1: /cronjobs/script: not found
[05:38] <al2o3-cr> what language do you want chinese?
[05:40] <choldrim__> chinese?
[05:40] <al2o3-cr> choldrim__: didn't you say you wanted chinese no?
[05:41] <choldrim_> I selected English language.
[05:42] <al2o3-cr> choldrim_: click run this action now button
[05:44] <choldrim_> eh..I mean I want to know why the terminal become blurred?
[05:44] <kaell> i would do an "ls -al /cronjobs" and paste output, also copy/paste crontab file
[05:44] <choldrim_> ;)
[05:44] <kaell> i dont have a good guess otherwise
[05:44] <kaell> check permissions, check file attributes
[05:44] <kaell> check for typos
[05:44] <al2o3-cr> choldrim_: hmm, don't know
[05:45] <al2o3-cr> ask your question to the channel, maybe someone can help you
[05:46] <choldrim_> which channel?
[05:46] <al2o3-cr> this one
[06:10] <inerkick> Hi
[06:10] <inerkick> I got my ubuntu 14.04 Gnome 3 , sometimes act weird with all the fonts missing
[06:11] <inerkick> its like all fonts are scattered, on browser( font) missing between words, on every thing we can see.
[06:11] <malimbar> ... all the fonts missing?
[06:12] <malimbar> how did you install gnome 3?
[06:13] <inerkick> normal way
[06:13] <inerkick> sometimes it happens, not now
[06:13] <malimbar> sorry, no idea. Unusually quiet in this channel tonight though
[06:13] <inerkick> ok
[06:14] <inerkick> just hold on sec, let me show you how it looks
[06:15] <stiv2k> how do i change monitor position in lightdm greeter?
[06:15] <histo> malimbar: 'normal way' ?
[06:15] <histo> inerkick: ^^^^^^
[06:15] <malimbar> yeah, I was wondering what the "normal way" is as well
[06:15] <inerkick> check this http://postimg.org/image/wizi7tydz/
[06:15] <malimbar> I can think of 3 different ways I'd do it
[06:16] <malimbar> woh, that is weird
[06:16] <inerkick> hi histo malimbar http://postimg.org/image/wizi7tydz/ that's how sometimes it happens
[06:16] <inerkick> i just restarted, but it happens sometimes and sometimes laptops hangs
[06:16] <histo> wow
[06:17] <inerkick> yeah, it's weird
[06:17] <histo> inerkick: locale settings?
[06:18] <inerkick> what is that?
[06:18] <malimbar> also, does it change when you snap a window fullscreen?
[06:18] <stiv2k> nothing i do is able to change the default position of monitors in lightdm greeter. any help?
[06:18] <histo> inerkick: http://askubuntu.com/questions/603579/ubuntu-fonts-are-corrupted-on-certain-windows
[06:19] <inerkick> thanks histo let me check
[06:19] <inerkick> histo,  but thats lightdm isn't
[06:20] <histo> inerkick: huh?
[06:21] <histo> stiv2k: what do you mean by position?
[06:21] <inerkick> nothing
[06:21] <malimbar> stiv2k, you mean which monitor is on which side? I think that has nothign to do with lightdm
[06:21] <stiv2k> malimbar: what do you mean?
[06:21] <histo> stiv2k: Is this a multi monitor setup?
[06:22] <stiv2k> i tried running an xrandr command in lightdm
[06:22] <stiv2k> yes histo
[06:22] <stiv2k> i need to run this
[06:22] <malimbar> do a search for displays
[06:22] <aw350me> hello
[06:22] <stiv2k> xrandr --output HDMI1 --left-of VGA1
[06:22] <histo> stiv2k: do you have a ~/.config/monitors.xml  ?
[06:22] <stiv2k> in the greeter
[06:22] <stiv2k> histo: yes
[06:22] <histo> stiv2k: copy it to /var/lib/lightdm/.config/
[06:22] <stiv2k> histo: i dont have a /var/lib/lightdm
[06:23] <aw350me> i have to enter a passphrase when i start my system i want to change the password how may i
[06:23] <stiv2k> right now they default to the wrong one being left and right
[06:23] <malimbar> aw350me, user accounts
[06:23] <aw350me> how
[06:24] <histo> aw350me: settings > user accounts
[06:24] <aw350me> passphrase encryption?
[06:24] <aw350me> ok
[06:24] <histo> aw350me: or open a terminal and type in passwd
[06:24] <aw350me> not that before login
[06:25] <malimbar> stiv2k, do a search (press the windows key) for display
[06:25] <stiv2k> malimbar: it works when i'm logged in, i already have my displays configured
[06:25] <stiv2k> malimbar: but not for the login screen itself
[06:25] <histo> aw350me: are you using encryption?
[06:25] <malimbar> ah... hmm
[06:25] <aw350me> yes
[06:25] <stiv2k> malimbar: i have to move my mouse to the left to get to my right screen, then click my name and enter the password
[06:25] <histo> stiv2k: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360886/personalize-monitor-position-before-login
[06:26] <stiv2k> histo: i've already seen that
[06:26] <stiv2k> histo: i dont have a /var/lib/lightdm
[06:26] <histo> aw350me: then it's probably the password for your disk encryption
[06:26] <histo> stiv2k: did you check his source and the corresponding bug report?  Perhaps there's more information there.
[06:27] <stiv2k> histo: cant i just run an xrandr command automatically at lightdm ?
[06:27] <stiv2k> xrandr --output HDMI1 --left-of VGA1
[06:27] <stiv2k> that will fix it
[06:27] <stiv2k> but every thing i look up that tells me where to run it, it doesn't work
[06:28] <stiv2k> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf... /usr/share/lightdm/ ....
[06:28] <histo> stiv2k: yeah you could add your xrandr to the config file if you follow the instructions.
[06:29] <histo> stiv2k: http://askubuntu.com/a/149548  to do it the way you want to
[06:31] <stiv2k> histo: i tried that man
[06:31] <stiv2k> that's why i'm here
[06:31] <stiv2k> it doesnt work
[06:31] <anonymous> hola
[06:33] <ubuntuser13> how to install ICU( international components for Unicode) library in ubuntu 14.04 64bit?
[06:33] <aw350me> how do i use this sudo cryptsetup lukAddKey /dev/sda5
[06:34] <aw350me> says cryptsetup: Unknown action.
[06:34] <aw350me> i want to change password
[06:35] <stiv2k> http://askubuntu.com/questions/243381/lightdm-doesnt-run-the-display-setup-script-script
[06:35] <aw350me> sudo cryptsetup luksChangeKey /dev/sda5 ?
[06:38] <inerkick> histo, it didn't work as said in the link
[06:39] <PanV> Um.. I came back for help with mapping a remote's buttons
[06:39] <PanV> Could I have some help?
[06:39] <PanV> ...
[06:40] <RealPanV> Hello?
[06:40] <histo> RealPanV: hello
[06:40] <RealPanV> histo, hi
[06:41] <histo> RealPanV: are you talking about a remote with lirc or something?
[06:41] <histo> !details | RealPanV
[06:41] <RealPanV> I dont know anything about my remote
[06:41] <RealPanV> Wait
[06:41] <RealPanV> ima show you a picture
[06:43] <RealPanV> http://www.plaisio.gr/ProductImages/1000x1000/1921193_2.JPG
[06:43] <RealPanV> it looks like that and it is wireless
[06:43] <RealPanV> For some reason, when I move the right joystick the output is Button 1,2,3,4 so... it is Triangle, Square, Circle, X
[06:43] <RealPanV> brb
[06:44] <stiv2k> anyone??
[06:44] <blakwire> hi my virtual ubuntu is running awefuly slow, any ideas?
[06:44] <blakwire> it didn't used to be like this
[06:46] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV: google this:    how to use joystick controller? you will find a lot of info..
[06:48] <RealPanV> I believe mapping is wrong
[06:48] <RealPanV> Do you know a tool for mapping?
[06:48] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV: No. but wait...
[06:49] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001424.htm
[06:50] <RealPanV> I tested  it.
[06:50] <RealPanV> I am on Ubuntu
[06:50] <RealPanV> and something isnt working properly
[06:50] <RealPanV> :(
[06:51] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV: tell me exactly what's going wrong?
[06:51] <RealPanV> I used a tool for calibration and testing
[06:51] <RealPanV> The right joystick
[06:51] <RealPanV> The right joystick's output is Button 1,2,3,4
[06:51] <RealPanV> Which is the same as X O Triangle Square
[06:52] <RealPanV> (Note: This is a playstation-styled remote only for computers)
[06:52] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/raring/jstest-gtk/
[06:52] <RealPanV> That was the tool I tested the outputs
[06:52] <RealPanV> wait a sec
[06:53] <RealPanV> So yeah
[06:53] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1945772&s=7ce3f01d430a6e6dae02a7efc778d181
[06:53] <RealPanV> The thing I was talking about
[06:53] <RealPanV> k
[06:53] <RealPanV> Or wait
[06:53] <RealPanV> I foudn ampping but I am lost, I dont know how to use it
[06:55] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV: for documentation type man jstest-gtk in terminal.
[06:56] <RealPanV> I think its already done
[06:57] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/615627/xbox-360-gamepad-controller-left-and-right-analog-sticks-not-working-properly-in
[06:57] <RealPanV> I think that's it
[06:57] <RealPanV> Unanswered
[06:58] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV: see the related questions on right side!
[06:58] <RealPanV> Oh. :P
[07:00] <ubuntuser13> RealpanV: http://askubuntu.com/questions/32031/how-do-i-configure-a-joystick-or-gamepad
[07:00] <RealPanV> I see only Axis 0 and Axis 1 work
[07:01] <RealPanV> the guy is having the exact problem like me.
[07:01] <ubuntuser13> RealPanV: last post is showing how to configure joypad with pics.
[07:01] <RealPanV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/600031/xbox360-gamepad-left-analog-only-moves-up-down-on-fps-games?rq=1
[07:02] <RealPanV> I cant understand how is it showing
[07:02] <RealPanV> EriC^^, !
[07:02] <EriC^^> hello
[07:02] <ubuntuser13> RealPanV: did you try this! http://askubuntu.com/questions/32031/how-do-i-configure-a-joystick-or-gamepad
[07:03] <RealPanV> I have seen this question before
[07:03] <RealPanV> but I think this program doesn't open
[07:03] <Scourje_> Hi. Could one of you niggers advise if latest Ubuntu works on MacBooks?
[07:03] <RealPanV> lemme try again
[07:03] <RealPanV> xD Scourje_
[07:03] <RealPanV> I white
[07:03] <Scourje_> White Power, RealPanV.
[07:04] <RealPanV> ...
[07:04] <Scourje_> ?
[07:04] <RealPanV> jscalibrator cannot be found
[07:04] <Scourje_> ?
[07:04] <RealPanV> It's nto about you..
[07:04] <Scourje_> Oh.
[07:04] <Scourje_> Ok nigger.
[07:06] <RealPanV> I think I got it
[07:08] <RealPanV> Dude
[07:09] <RealPanV> Now it doesnt even recognise the movements of my joysticks
[07:10] <hjb> Ns3PplNitte
[07:11] <EriC^^> RealPanV: what's up?
[07:11] <RealPanV> Now how to reset these settings?
[07:11] <RealPanV> EriC^^, my right joystick of that http://www.plaisio.gr/ProductImages/1000x1000/1921193_2.JPG\
[07:12] <RealPanV> * http://www.plaisio.gr/ProductImages/1000x1000/1921193_2.JPG
[07:12] <RealPanV> wasn't working
[07:12] <RealPanV> and I did some methods from this website
[07:12] <RealPanV> Now http://askubuntu.com/questions/32031/how-do-i-configure-a-joystick-or-gamepad
[07:12] <RealPanV> My Controller doesnt work
[07:12] <RealPanV> after using some commands from answer 1 and nothing went right.
[07:13] <RealPanV> The Right Joystick's output are the buttons X Triangle O, square buttons
[07:13] <EriC^^> did you follow this solution? http://askubuntu.com/questions/32031/how-do-i-configure-a-joystick-or-gamepad/270111#270111
[07:13] <RealPanV> EriC^^, now I need to reset all those settings first
[07:14] <EriC^^> ok do you know how?
[07:14] <RealPanV> Nope.
[07:15] <EriC^^> try to purge the jscalibrator package
[07:15] <EriC^^> then use the other one
[07:15] <RealPanV> jscalibrator command doesnt work
[07:15] <RealPanV> all else js calibrator commands work
[07:15] <RealPanV> but via the terminal
[07:15] <RealPanV> How to delete it?
[07:16] <EriC^^> do sudo apt-get purge jscalibrator
[07:16] <RealPanV> K
[07:16] <RealPanV> wait a sec
[07:17] <RealPanV> WAit
[07:17] <RealPanV> I am re-installing the thing who screwed me up
[07:18] <EriC^^> are you using unity?
[07:18] <RealPanV> EriC^^, I am using Unity Tweak tool
[07:18] <RealPanV> and jscalibrator was not found
[07:19] <RealPanV> jscal and jstest commands are working correctly
[07:19] <RealPanV> but via terminal
[07:19] <RealPanV> and it confuses me
[07:19] <RealPanV> and it made me screw up
[07:19] <RealPanV> 100% ubuntu pro
[07:20] <RealPanV> EriC^^, Gnome stuff is running at background
[07:20] <EriC^^> ok, remove the jscalibrator
[07:20] <RealPanV> I haven't installed jscalibrator
[07:20] <RealPanV> nor have been able to remove it
[07:20] <EriC^^> did you install jstest-gtk?
[07:21] <RealPanV> Yep
[07:21] <EriC^^> ok open the dash and type jstest
[07:21] <RealPanV> already open
[07:21] <EriC^^> ok double click on the joystick
[07:21] <RealPanV> Atm
[07:22] <RealPanV> No joysticks work
[07:22] <RealPanV> Axis 0,1,2,3 = 128
[07:22] <EriC^^> is there a joystick?
[07:22] <RealPanV> yep
[07:22] <EriC^^> ok, double click on it
[07:22] <RealPanV> Done
[07:22] <EriC^^> ok calibrate it
[07:22] <RealPanV> and when I moved the right joystick before, the outputs werent axis 2,3
[07:22] <RealPanV> they were buttons 0,1,2,3
[07:23] <EriC^^> ok, try mapping
[07:23] <RealPanV> All values at calibration became 0
[07:23] <RealPanV> Ok?
[07:23] <EriC^^> click on mapping
[07:23] <RealPanV> Done
[07:24] <EriC^^> ok, so?
[07:24] <RealPanV> So what?
[07:24] <EriC^^> what do you see?
[07:24] <RealPanV> 5 axes
[07:24] <RealPanV> 11 buttons
[07:24] <EriC^^> ok, can you map which button is what?
[07:24] <RealPanV> 0 = BTN_trigget
[07:24] <RealPanV> *trigger
[07:25] <RealPanV> 1=thumb
[07:25] <RealPanV> 2=thumb2
[07:25] <RealPanV> 3=btn_top
[07:25] <RealPanV> 4=top2
[07:25] <EriC^^> ok, i think you need to map the buttons correctly
[07:25] <EriC^^> and then use calibration so that the thresholds and whatnot is correct
[07:25] <RealPanV> Erm... I have no idea how to do that.
[07:25] <EriC^^> then save your settings
[07:25] <EriC^^> you can do it, i have faith in you :D
[07:26] <RealPanV> EriC^^, there is a problem. I don't know how to map, calibration doesn't work, mapping still confuses me, please I need to skype with you just not with voice
[07:26] <RealPanV> Oops way too many problems
[07:26] <RealPanV> It does not recognise any of the buttons
[07:26] <RealPanV> wait a sec
[07:27] <RealPanV> ....
[07:28] <RealPanV> Oh wait
[07:28] <RealPanV> My remote works now correctly, just the right joystic doesnt work properly :/
[07:29] <EriC^^> you mean the buttons aren't right?
[07:29] <RealPanV> When I move the right joystick to the right
[07:29] <RealPanV> Axis 2 should have 32767 output
[07:29] <RealPanV> But button 1 is the output of the joystic
[07:30] <EriC^^> ok, go to mapping
[07:30] <RealPanV> Done
[07:30] <RealPanV> Wait
[07:30] <EriC^^> if there's something like button 1 [ set ] , press on set then press button 1 on your joystick
[07:31] <RealPanV> How to know that I pressed right button?
[07:31] <RealPanV> wait
[07:31] <RealPanV> Circle = Button 1
[07:31] <RealPanV> X = button 2
[07:31] <RealPanV> Triangle = Button 0
[07:31] <RealPanV> Square = Button 3
[07:31] <RealPanV> I can swap the places of those
[07:32] <RealPanV> but at Axes it seems like the mapping is correct
[07:32] <RealPanV> 2: ABS_Z
[07:33] <RealPanV> What to do now?
[07:34] <RealPanV> EriC^^, output of right joystic = button 0,1,2,3. hmm.. like a hard maths problem
[07:34] <RealPanV> There isn't something like Button Set.
[07:34] <RealPanV> Only at steam
[07:34] <RealPanV> and steam doesnt recognise the axis 2,3
[07:34] <RealPanV> OR WAIT!
[07:34] <RealPanV> perhaps its axis 4,5
[07:35] <RealPanV> Nope.. Same output
[07:36] <RealPanV> axis 2: -32767 output axis 3: Same output
[07:36] <RealPanV> Axis 4 axis 5 = 0, 0
[07:36] <RealPanV> EriC^^, have you got any idea what can I do?
[07:36] <EriC^^> do you have something like this? http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/jstest-gtk/screenshot-0_1_0.png
[07:37] <RealPanV> The UI isnt exactly like that, but similar
[07:37] <hjb> Hello
[07:38] <RealPanV> EriC^^, I dont have 6 and 7, only until 5
[07:39] <RealPanV> Calibration =
[07:39] <EriC^^> RealPanV: in the mapping can you switch their places?
[07:39] <RealPanV> Of what?
[07:39] <EriC^^> like drag and drop them
[07:39] <RealPanV> Drag
[07:39] <RealPanV> and drop
[07:39] <RealPanV> yes
[07:39] <RealPanV> But 6,7 aint there m8
[07:40] <EriC^^> i mean in the other window
[07:40] <EriC^^> in the mapping one
[07:40] <RealPanV> Yes I can drag and drop
[07:40] <RealPanV> but Axes 6,7 do not exist there
[07:40] <EriC^^> in the calibration you mean
[07:40] <EriC^^> ?
[07:40] <RealPanV> No, I mean all of the windows
[07:41] <RealPanV> 6,7 is missing, not there. Not at my remote.
[07:41] <RealPanV> I cant figure out what button is Axis 4 and 5
[07:41] <EriC^^> maybe it's different
[07:41] <RealPanV> Well it is
[07:42] <RealPanV> Current values of The remote which is untouched (Window when you double click remote)
[07:42] <EriC^^> you have 4 axes, 2 for the left one and 2 for the right i think
[07:42] <RealPanV> Yep. But I have 2 extra
[07:42] <RealPanV> 0,1,4,5 axes are 0
[07:42] <RealPanV> rest are -32767
[07:42] <EriC^^> first try to unplug your joystick
[07:42] <EriC^^> then plug it in
[07:42] <EriC^^> and launch the program again
[07:42] <RealPanV> what could happen?
[07:42] <RealPanV> Okay.
[07:42] <EriC^^> to reset everything
[07:43] <felixfire> i followed the instructions to install my broadcom 802.11 wireless adapter, its still not working, what should i look into? i cannot access the internet from ubuntu without the wifi Lan connection is not a option ;(
[07:43] <RealPanV> Done, all inputs are 0
[07:44] <histo> FelixFire619: what instructions did you follow?
[07:44] <EriC^^> RealPanV: ok, the center min and center max are the thresholds so between them nothing happens
[07:44] <EriC^^> and rangemin rangemax are the upper and lower limits
[07:44] <RealPanV> Please explain the meaning of thresholds
[07:45] <EriC^^> RealPanV: you see the invert button? it's like when you press the invert so that up becomes down
[07:45] <RealPanV> yes
[07:45] <EriC^^> RealPanV: threshold is the minimum value before which an effect occurs
[07:45] <RealPanV> Okay.
[07:45] <FelixFire619> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Switching_between_drivers
[07:45] <RealPanV> At Calibration
[07:46] <EriC^^> RealPanV: so the bigger the threshold the less sensitive it will be before it starts moving
[07:46] <RealPanV> All centermins are 112, except 4 and 5, which is 0
[07:46] <RealPanV> Ok
[07:46] <RealPanV> Centermaxes = 142, except 4,5 which is 0
[07:46] <RealPanV> RangeMin is 15 and 4,5 is -1
[07:46] <RealPanV> RangeMax of 0,1,2,3 is 239 and 4,5 is 1
[07:48] <histo> FelixFire619: are you switching between drivers to test?  which ones did you install?
[07:48] <FelixFire619> The only ones that went into /lib/firmware where b43,
[07:49] <RealPanV> EriC^^,  hello? Are you busy right now?
[07:49] <FelixFire619> I'm looking at that page in windows (not on a phone) and im noticing a few things i might have done wrong, going to read now that i can see better and see if i can figure it out
[07:49] <FelixFire619> If not i'll return ;)
[07:49] <EriC^^> RealPanV: no
[07:49] <RealPanV> Ah ok.
[07:50] <RealPanV> Omg... the remote lost connection
[07:50] <RealPanV> dam- wireless
[07:51] <Omilun> hello i use mint 17.1 32bit ... i have problem by ubuntu repos ... bcz have very slow speed for download apps
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> !mint | Omilun
[07:52] <Omilun> ok
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Omilun: try ubuntu desktop mate, you will be pleased
[07:52] <Omilun> thx
[07:53] <EriC^^> RealPanV: try sudo apt-get install qjoypad
[07:53] <RealPanV> Ok
[07:53] <EriC^^> it seems better
[07:53] <RealPanV> I already have it
[07:53] <EriC^^> then type qjoypad --notray
[07:54] <RealPanV> Ok?
[07:54] <EriC^^> ok try running it
[07:54] <RealPanV> Now there is a remote at my screen
[07:54] <RealPanV> I pressed it
[07:54] <EriC^^> close jstest-gtk
[07:54] <RealPanV> Already done
[07:55] <RealPanV> Wow, I saw that
[07:55] <RealPanV> I can even play minecraft with that
[07:55] <RealPanV> Dam-
[07:55] <EriC^^> it worked?
[07:55] <RealPanV> I gtg bro...
[07:56] <RealPanV> I dont know
[07:56] <RealPanV> Well.. I hope you will be later on.
[07:56] <RealPanV> Bye..
[07:56] <EriC^^> bye
[07:56] <histo> lotuspsychje: mint does things a little different then ubuntu though. Most people don't switch because of the desktop
[07:57] <marinus> hey
[07:58] <histo> ho
[07:58] <histo> lets go
[07:58] <kaell> eep! help! 10.04 upgrading to 12.04... got to installing the upgrades, about 3 minutes remaining, setting up dropbox... downloading at 100%, got an error that was a minus in a red circle, but the error was all square box characters
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | kaell
[07:58] <kaell> now just stuck there
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> kaell: a fresh install would be really reccomended, 14.04 perhaps
[08:02] <kaell> ok
[08:20] <updategrub> hey all, does anyone know how to enable remote connection to my transmission web GUI, when the machine it's on is connected through a VPN?
[08:21] <histo> updategrub: never used it, I'd assume there'd be settings to allow remote connections
[08:22] <histo> updategrub: from the documentation it looks like ip.of.transmission.machine:9091
[08:23] <updategrub> oh there is...but it listen on localhost:9091, but the local host for this machine is 10.10.10.54...I want to be able to access it through my public IP, I'm 'guessing' I need to port forward from my router to my laptop's ip (192.168.0.5), and then from there use iptables (perhaps?) to get 192.168.0.5:9091 forwarded to 10.10.10.54:9091 (wlan to tun-00??)?
[08:25] <histo> updategrub: not sure on your vpn config. but if you can ping your laptop's ip while connected then it should just work. If you want to access from the outside, then yes you need to port forward 9091 to your laptop's internal ip
[08:27] <updategrub> thank you histo, at least that confirms what I suspected...but how do I go about doing it, never done any portforwarding at all, apart from the rather simple method on my router's admin pae
[08:27] <updategrub> *page
[08:27] <histo> updategrub: If you've done that before I'm not sure I understand your question then.  What is the structure of your VPN?
[08:28] <updategrub> I don't understand..structure? Sorry, I'm really not up on all this :(
[08:30] <histo> updategrub: You said you're using a vpn
[08:30] <updategrub> correct
[08:30] <histo> updategrub: how is the vpn configured
[08:30] <histo> updategrub: do you get an ip from the router or whatever machine is running the vpn?  is it on the same subnet?
[08:31] <histo> updategrub: without knowing the details of your network it's kind of hard to tell you where the forwarding needs to be.
[08:32] <updategrub> it's BTGuard...I just downloaded the certificate and entered my credentials...it looks like the mask is 255.255.255.255 for tun0 and 255.255.255.0 for wlan..my laptop's the only device on the network using the vpn
[08:36] <histo> updategrub: looks like they user openvpn for their setup. iptables then
[08:38] <updategrub> is there a good gui for iptables? I've had a look around..the syntact for cli is baffling, and the ones I've tried so far (fwbuilder and gufw) don't seem to be able to do what I want them to do
[08:38] <updategrub> *syntax
[08:51] <rick__> #pulseaudio
[08:56] <FelixFire> Can anting I do in Ubuntu mess up windows if there on did partion?
[08:57] <bazhang> FelixFire, please rephrase that makes no sense
[08:58] <OerHeks> "can anything i do in Ubuntu mess up windows if there .... " then i am lost
[08:59] <FelixFire> I am duel booting Ubuntu 14.04 and win 7 I was trying to install my bcm4313 drivers and failing went back to windows now WiFi doesn't work
[09:00] <FelixFire> Sorry in on a phone autocorrect for the fail
[09:00] <histo> FelixFire: do you have a switch to enable and disable wifi?
[09:00] <lotuspsychje_> yeah some machines act weird on hardware switch + bios 'last state wifi' options
[09:01] <FelixFire> Not that I've found
[09:01] <FelixFire> K lemme  try something
[09:02] <FelixFire> Hmm
[09:02] <FelixFire> Tried disable enable no go
[09:02] <histo> FelixFire: that's odd. Have you ever used the device before in windows?
[09:02] <FelixFire> Ya
[09:03] <FelixFire> Many time even right before going to Linux to attempt install
[09:03] <lotuspsychje_> FelixFire: wich brand of laptop?
[09:03] <histo> FelixFire: I can't think of anything you could have done in linux that would effect the card
[09:04] <FelixFire> Acer aspire 5733z
[09:05] <lotuspsychje_> FelixFire: some aspires need netboot enabled in bios to not freeze with ubuntu
[09:05] <OerHeks> remove battery, hold powerbutton for 10 seconds, and try again
[09:06] <FelixFire> OK thanks.. Could that help with WiFi in Ubuntu if the proper drivers are installed
[09:06] <histo> thank god acer used an atheros chipset in my laptop
[09:06] <lotuspsychje_> FelixFire: messing with wifi in ubuntu, should not affect windows normaly
[09:07] <histo> s/effect/affect/
[09:08] <FelixFire> Can Ubuntu connect to android mtp as is after fresh install no inter net
[09:08] <lotuspsychje_> cool auto spell check :p
[09:08] <Johnny_Linux> dyslexic
[09:08] <lotuspsychje_> !info mtp
[09:09] <histo> lotuspsychje_: I was fixing my mistake not yours.
[09:10] <histo> lotuspsychje_: well actually, you didn't make one. You used the proper word.
[09:10] <bazhang> the package is gmtp lotuspsychje_
[09:10] <lotuspsychje_> bazhang: ah tnx
[09:10] <lotuspsychje_> !info gmtp
[09:10] <bazhang> never mind the description
[09:10] <lotuspsychje_> FelixFire: is optional
[09:10] <choldrim> al2o3-cr: hi, I figure the problem that display blurr on kvm, just set the kvm args like "kvm ... -vga std ..." instead of "kvm ... -vga cirrus ..."
[09:11] <choldrim> al2o3-cr: thanks for your help, ;)
[09:12] <FelixFire619> Ok, so
[09:12] <FelixFire619> i got windows working on wifi again
[09:13] <FelixFire619> Now, can anyone tell me. how would i find a package i could just use dpkg or apt-get to install the driver from and set it up properly? im not having any luck at it this way and in debian i've used a package before just cant find it anymore
[09:13] <lotuspsychje_> !bc43 | FelixFire
[09:13] <lotuspsychje_> !broadcom | FelixFire
[09:13] <FelixFire619> yup
[09:14] <FelixFire619> Thats everything i've done so far
[09:14] <lotuspsychje_> FelixFire: checked additional drivers section for STA driver?
[09:16] <lotuspsychje_> !info firmware-b43-installer | you can try this also
[09:16] <FelixFire> Just found something giving it a go
[09:16] <lotuspsychje_> kk
[09:21] <d1e2381dcdadfc59> 有懂中文的在线吗
[09:22] <lotuspsychje_> !cn | d1e2381dcdadfc59
[09:23] <d1e2381dcdadfc59> 我不是想得到中文协助  我是想知道有没有华人在场
[09:23] <lotuspsychje_> !english | d1e2381dcdadfc59
[09:29] <FelixFire> Ugh
[09:30] <histo> FelixFire: still a no go?
[09:31] <histo> FelixFire: which chipset is it? So we can figure out which driver you actually need
[09:32] <bazhang> bcm43xx histo
[09:33] <histo> bazhang: yeah but there are different drivers for different 43xx variants.
[09:33] <bazhang> thats the limit of he told us so far
[09:34] <histo> FelixFire: lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:35] <FelixFire> How do I make wlan0 release and renew
[09:35] <FelixFire> Chip set is bcm4313
[09:39] <FelixFire> OK I think the card work's but is not getting proper WiFi settings
[09:39] <FelixFire> I can ping the broad cast number
[09:40] <FelixFire> IP*
[09:40] <FelixFire> And inet ADdR
[09:43] <Phveektor> Is it possible to use Rdp to connect to ubuntu from a blackberry?
[09:44] <FelixFire> This is weird
[09:44] <OERIAS> Has anyone tried the Apple Pro Keyboard on Ubunt?
[09:45] <OERIAS> This one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Apple_Pro_Keyboard_black.jpg
[09:45] <Phveektor> I'm tryin to do it thouh, the rdp
[09:47] <iamrohit7> how to create a bootable usb with persistent memory from terminal?
[09:48] <FelixFire619> I'm completely at a loss
[09:52] <DanShark> who
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> me
[09:56] <DanShark> sorry, my mistake.
[09:56] <bekks> !usb | iamrohit7
[10:00] <MilkMouth> hello
[10:01] <DanShark> hi ,MilkMouth
[10:14] <Jeroen2> Hi, my mysql is down and when I try to start it, it says: "fail". What could I do>
[10:17] <topo> ciao
[10:17] <__nemo__> Im running xubuntu on a Dell-laptop. Sometimes after sleepmode, the screen just comes up black. I can change tty and go into textmode, but does anyone know;is there any way to recover the tty? other than rebooting?
[10:17] <histo> Jeroen2: look in /var/log/mysql* and see why it's failing
[10:22] <reddeath68> I just had my screen freeze and was kicked back into login prompt on my fresh install of ubuntu 14.04.2
[10:22] <Jeroen2> histo, just nano /var/log/mysql*?
[10:22] <reddeath68> any ideas on where to start xorg shows no errors
[10:22] <Jeroen2> as that doesn't give anything.
[10:23] <EriC^^> reddeath68: check /var/log/syslog for segfaults
[10:25] <reddeath68> EriC^^, no mention of segfault in log
[10:25] <spread> Can anyone please tell why ubuntu doesnot include mp3 codecs by default even though they are free?
[10:25] <EriC^^> spread: cause you need to agree to the eula to use them
[10:25] <spread> ok
[10:26] <spread> thanks EriC^^
[10:26] <EriC^^> no problem
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> spread  because mp3 is not opensource, i guess
[10:26] <georoot> hi can someone tell me is there a way to install ubuntu edge on samsumg galaxy s2?
[10:26] <Jeroen2> If I start sudo start mysql
[10:27] <Jeroen2> I get: "Job failed to start".
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> !touch | georoot start here
[10:28] <histo> Jeroen2: no I'm assuming mysqld has a log somehwere in /var/log
[10:28] <histo> Jeroen2: I was just giving a wildcard because I'm not sure where it's at. You'll ahve to look in there for it
[10:29] <Jeroen2> how could I as I'm noob with this.
[10:29] <Jeroen2> ?
[10:29] <Jeroen2> browse trough directives?
[10:30] <reddeath68> EriC^^, think I found something in log but no idea what to do with it
[10:30] <reddeath68> Jun 21 06:19:30 reddeath68-desk kernel: [57454.849701] traps: compiz[2390] general protection ip:7f09a4c96fb1 sp:7ffdcf0d1450 error:0 in libcompiz_core.so.0.9.11.3[7f09a4c08000+ae000]
[10:30] <reddeath68> Jun 21 06:20:10 reddeath68-desk gnome-session[2275]: WARNING: Application 'compiz.desktop' killed by signal 11
[10:30] <reddeath68> Jun 21 06:20:10 reddeath68-desk gnome-session[2275]: WARNING: App 'compiz.desktop' respawning too quickly
[10:30] <reddeath68> Jun 21 06:20:10 reddeath68-desk gnome-session[2275]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[10:31] <histo> Jeroen2: you should have mysql.err and mysql.log in /var/log
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> reddeath68  use a pastebin for multiple lines http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:31] <spread> One more question guys, I 've heard somewhere that unity and gnome3 together have some issues. And I want to use gnome 3. Earlier I was using linux mint and now I want to move to ubuntu. I wanna know those are just rumors or true? I know there is ubuntu-gnome but I've tested 3 versions of it and all are unsatisfactory. So installing gnome on ubuntu unity edition is last option left
[10:31] <reddeath68> sorry i keep forgetting to use paste bin
[10:31] <Jeroen2> I don't histo. :/
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> spread  no system is perfect. what issues did you have in mind?
[10:33] <spread> MonkeyDust:  in ubuntu gnome, transitions are not smooth in windows. They are like flickering. Even I've filed bug but no improvement in last 3 editions.
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> spread  you mean the 'desktop effect'? you can easily disable them (first thing I do after installation)
[10:36] <St0keMe> hi geeks
[10:37] <spread> MonkeyDust:  I actually dont know what desktop effect is. The thing is when I click on hot corner in Gnome or say application overview, It seems like frame rate has drop to 10-15fps.
[10:37] <spread> It looks so laggy
[10:38] <spread> Also it takes some time
[10:38] <spread> lag
[10:38] <St0keMe> whois
[10:38] <St0keMe> \whois
[10:39] <St0keMe> Geeks or Hackers ? Who is more powerful ?
[10:39] <bazhang> St0keMe, not on topic here
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> St0keMe  stick to support questions
[10:39]  * spread thinks hackers are also geeks
[10:40] <histo> !ot | St0keMe
[10:41] <St0keMe> have anyone tried Ubuntu 15.04 ?
[10:41] <bekks> I am sure people did.
[10:41] <bekks> But how does taking polls helps you solving your actual ubuntu support issue?
[10:42] <reddeath68> so does anyone knows what this error means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11750059/
[10:43] <bekks> reddeath68: That happens using which Ubuntu, and when doing what?
[10:44] <reddeath68> bekks, i was playing runescape through wine and watching anime via vlc on my second monitor everything suddenly froze then it kicked me back to login
[10:45] <bekks> reddeath68: And where did you see the messages you posted then?
[10:45] <reddeath68> in the sys log
[10:46] <bekks> reddeath68: And the messages match the time of the crash?
[10:46] <reddeath68> bekks, yes
[10:46] <bekks> reddeath68: Your desktop environment crashed.
[10:47] <reddeath68> bekks, is there an underline problem or is it a one off thing?
[10:47] <St0keMe> anyone knows how to read logs in ubuntu ??
[10:47] <histo> St0keMe: yeah with any text editor
[10:47] <bekks> reddeath68: We dont know, too less information provided.
[10:48] <colbyftp> St0keMe, if you are looking a gui alternative install gnome-logs
[10:48] <FelixFire> This doesn't work
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> St0keMe  or do you mean, as in 'what to look for'?
[10:48] <reddeath68> bekks, ok i wasnt sure if there was a common error with the lib mentioned or not
[10:48] <bekks> FelixFire: What doesnt work?
[10:48] <St0keMe> I need to read my security and system logs
[10:48] <St0keMe> as in Windows Event Viewer in windows
[10:48] <St0keMe> Is there any way to read syslogs in ubuntu ??
[10:49] <histo> St0keMe: Which version of ubuntu?
[10:49] <St0keMe> 15.04
[10:50] <histo> St0keMe: journalctl
[10:51] <St0keMe> histo: can we access syslog using gedit ?
[10:51] <histo> St0keMe: sure gedit /var/log/syslog
[10:51] <reddeath68> bekks, i guess ill try to reproduce the error by doing same thing over again i just hope it was a one off as i just literally redid the system and finally fixed fglrx
[10:51] <histo> St0keMe: if ubuntu still uses syslog.
[10:51] <histo> I thought you all switched to systemd
[10:52] <St0keMe> system d is the new logging for 15.04 ?
[10:52] <iamrohit7> i have a custom flavor of ubuntu my class uses cs50 appliance https://manual.cs50.net/appliance/2014/#how_to_install_appliance when i try to create a bootable usb i get vesamenu.c32 not found. how to fix?
[10:53] <histo> St0keMe: yeah check out journalctl then.
[10:53] <St0keMe> histo: thanks mate
[10:53] <histo> St0keMe: much nicer than just viewing the text files. If you want to though they should be in /var/log/journal
[10:54] <histo> iamrohit7: how are you trying to create the bootable usb?
[10:54] <iamrohit7> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Installing_Ubuntu_on_the_USB_drive i'm using debian
[10:55] <iamrohit7> histo: on my system
[10:56] <histo> iamrohit7: just dd the iso to the usb
[10:56] <histo> iamrohit7: those instructions are really out dated
[10:57] <FelixFire> Ubuntu and my wlan
[10:57] <iamrohit7> histo: did try that and also cp still i get visamenu.c32 not found
[10:57] <iamrohit7> histo: want persistence to complete class assignments
[10:58] <histo> !usb | iamrohit7
[10:58] <FelixFire> O might have fixed
[10:58] <histo> FelixFire: what worked for ya?
[10:58] <iamrohit7> histo: i have been '!usb' ed before
[10:58] <histo> iamrohit7: ?
[10:59] <iamrohit7> histo: tried the same exact links
[10:59] <iamrohit7> histo: didn't work
[10:59] <histo> iamrohit7: then why are you following old instructions telling you to install sys linux?
[11:00] <histo> iamrohit7: unetbootin should work for you in debian
[11:00] <histo> iamrohit7: that's if you want a GUI way
[11:04] <FelixFire> Just installed bcm kernel from the CD and the adapter stopped
[11:06] <histo> FelixFire: so it's not fixed?
[11:06] <FelixFire> Naw
[11:07] <histo> FelixFire: which chipset is it?
[11:07] <FelixFire> Bcm4313
[11:08] <kingeR> How can I enable gzip on my VPS via ssh?
[11:09] <histo> FelixFire: the bcmwl-kernel-source package should work for you.
[11:09] <histo> kingeR: gzip should be installed
[11:09] <FelixFire> Bcm4313 14e4:4727 rev 1
[11:09] <kingeR> histo: I edited htaccess and nothing, is there some way to check if it's installed?
[11:10] <FelixFire> Ubuntu 14.04.2
[11:10] <histo> kingeR: what are you to enable gzip for?
[11:11] <FelixFire> O I need 2.4 GHz because 5gb doesn't work
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> kingeR  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[11:11] <kingeR> histo: ok, I have it, and it is installed, but somehow it doesn't work. I want to enable it for compressing files for website users
[11:11] <histo> FelixFire: ?
[11:11] <histo> kingeR: are you installing some frontend that's complaining it's not available?
[11:12] <kingeR> MonkeyDust: I checked my website and it's not gzipped, i edited htaccess file and still the same thing, so it must be problem with gzip
[11:12] <kingeR> histo: no, i have gzip, but it just doesn't work
[11:12] <kingeR> not sure why though
[11:12] <histo> kingeR: how are you invoking gzip?
[11:12] <histo> or attempting to
[11:13] <kingeR> histo: not sure what that means actually...
[11:13] <histo> kingeR: Why do you expect your website to be magically compressed by gzip?
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> kingeR  i don't get that either, what do you mean by a gzipped website
[11:14] <kingeR> It's not magically, it's suggestions i recieved from some websites
[11:14] <histo> kingeR: install mod-gzip
[11:15] <histo> kingeR: is that what you are talking about?
[11:15] <kingeR> histo: when you check your website on this site for example http://www.gidnetwork.com/tools/gzip-test.php
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> kingeR  doesnt look ubuntu related to me
[11:17] <kingeR> MonkeyDust: it is. i have problem on ubuntu 12 VPS
[11:17] <histo> kingeR: yeah this is apache related, but basically enable mod_deflate or mod_gzip and update your .htaccess accordingly
[11:18] <kingeR> histo: ok, thanks :D
[11:19] <histo> kingeR: /join #httpd
[11:21] <Guest8743> ciao
[11:21] <Guest8743> !help
[11:22] <isutoshi> i accidentally pasted a short tcl script in the command line, and "bind" picked it up so i can't type certain characters now :S is there anyway to undo that?
[11:23] <DocMAX> hello
[11:23] <DocMAX> i want a service to respwan on exit
[11:23] <DocMAX> how can i do this?
[11:31] <syntax> hallo
[11:32] <compdoc> DocMAX, systemd 'Restart=always'
[11:32] <DocMAX> but only for a specific service
[11:40] <reddeath68> system crash and i dont see any reason for it in logs
[11:44] <histo> DocMAX: which service?
[11:48] <sybariten> oh hai!
[11:48] <DocMAX> histo logstash
[11:49] <sybariten> Im going to install something called crouton on my chromebook. It's essientially ubuntu running in a chroot environment, inside chromeOS
[11:49] <DocMAX> -/etc/init.d/logstash
[11:49] <sybariten> but i do have the choice of DLing ubuntu 12 or ubuntu 14..... is there any point, in your opinion , to go for 12 ?
[11:50] <histo> DocMAX: who wrote the init script for it?
[11:51] <histo> sybariten: no
[11:51] <sybariten> ok
[11:51] <sybariten> illl try and do v14 + xfce then
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> sybariten  14.04 is LTS (not the same as 14.10)
[11:53] <DocMAX> histo, its from a debian package
[11:53] <DocMAX> https://www.elastic.co/products/logstash
[11:56] <histo> !info logstash
[11:57] <DocMAX> its a 3rd party thing
[11:57] <DocMAX> it installs a init.d script
[11:57] <DocMAX> but i need it restart if process is dead
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> DocMAX  ubuntu != debian
[11:58] <ioria> DocMAX, see if it help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1157638
[11:59] <ioria> *s
[11:59] <histo> DocMAX: you'd have to make a systemd service for it
[12:00] <DocMAX> ok thx
[12:02] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows which is the video codec you have to install to play mkv files?
[12:02] <kokut> is there a package i can install that has all the codecs or something?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> kokut  try ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:02] <kokut> MonkeyDust: already tried
[12:03] <kaidelong> I need help changing the default web browser, the web suggests that in the details widget, under default applications, I can select "custom browser" and set an invocation of firefox there
[12:03] <kokut> in my other disc that has ubuntu installed i can play the files but i cant remember what i had to do
[12:03] <kaidelong> but there is no option either for firefox or for setting a custom browser
[12:03] <kaidelong> when I installed chrome for testing purposes, the default browser was set to chrome
[12:03] <kaidelong> and now I can't set it back
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> kaidelong  system settings > details
[12:04] <kaidelong> MonkeyDust: that's where I got, yes
[12:05] <kaidelong> the forums suggested I'd be able to set a custom application there
[12:05] <kaidelong> but the drop down options are "Chrome" and "Ubuntu Browser"
[12:05] <trijntje_> Ubuntu 14.04 hangs at the login screen, I cant type or move the mouse. All I can do is do a hard reboot with the power button. How can I fix this?
[12:05] <kaidelong> I'm on 15.04, if that helps
[12:05] <kokut> lol i found a codec that plays the video but it doesnt work with MPV or VLC.. da fuq?
[12:06] <kaidelong> would it be possible to circumvent the widget using gconf-editor?
[12:06] <kokut> do i have to reboot or something?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> kokut  yes, you can try that
[12:07] <kokut> k
[12:07] <kokut> ty
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> kaidelong  what widget are you talking about?
[12:07] <kokut> i might switch the discs until i can find a way to port all my settings from the other disc
[12:07] <kaidelong> MonkeyDust: System Settings > Details
[12:08] <kokut> can i copy my home folder and the etc folder or something?
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> kokut  that's called a !backup
[12:09] <kokut> MonkeyDust: i need to find a way to transfer all my applications along with their settings to this disc, is that possible?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> kokut  cloning comes to mind
[12:10] <kaidelong> sensible-browser opens chrome
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> !clone
[12:10] <kokut> its going to take weeks otherwise and i have a lot of work to do so its really frustrating
[12:10] <kokut> !automate
[12:10] <kokut> !clone
[12:11] <JunkHunk> hello people I installed nagios on ubuntu and now I would like to add some graphics to it...I found MRTG and I installed it like this:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MRTG
[12:11] <JunkHunk> the question is...how do I get it runnning?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> JunkHunk, best to read the nagios documentation
[12:12] <kokut> MonkeyDust: but clone will install only the packages installed from the sofware center? can i wipe the disk, boot via usb and copy the "computer" folder to my other disk or something?
[12:12] <JunkHunk> :-P thats the ocean
[12:12] <JunkHunk> I was looking for more ubuntu related info
[12:12] <kokut> JunkHunk: its not about the size of the boat, its the motion in the ocean.
[12:13] <kaidelong> according to "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" my default browser is set to firefox
[12:13] <kaidelong> but when I invoke sensible-browser, chrome opens
[12:13] <kaidelong> firefox is not an option in the default applications widgets
[12:13] <kaidelong> should I report a bug?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> kokut  not sure, haven't tried it
[12:13] <JunkHunk> indeed the ubuntu docs is quite clear I just need to know how to use nagios instead of those post install instructions...
[12:13] <kokut> MonkeyDust: :(
[12:14] <JunkHunk> http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/mrtggraphs.html
[12:14] <kokut> ill seriously have to take a look at all that because its going to take too much time to install and customize everything again
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> brb
[12:15] <JunkHunk> I dont want to browse to http://<server_ip>/mrtg to see the graphs I would like to embed them in nagios
[12:16] <bekks> JunkHunk: So do it?
[12:17] <JunkHunk> how?
[12:18] <bekks> JunkHunk: You need to look at the sourcecode that generates the graphics and embed it into nagios.
[12:19] <kaidelong> alright, so I tried going to firefox's settings and having firefox set itself to the default browser
[12:19] <JunkHunk> I am just opening the mrtg.cfg to figure out
[12:19] <kaidelong> now what is happening is this:
[12:19] <kaidelong> clicking a link does invoke firefox, but the URL is not passed to it
[12:20] <kaidelong> but System Settings > Details, does show firefox as an option now
[12:20] <JunkHunk> bekks http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/nagiostats.html
[12:20] <kaidelong> so, progress
[12:20] <sybariten> MonkeyDust: thanks
[12:21] <kaidelong> sensible-browser still opens chrome
[12:21] <sybariten> MonkeyDust: i dont think i can choose from version numbers to be honest, when i do help on the install script i get a list of releases.... but only with those animal names
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> sybariten  14.04 is trusty (LTS)
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> trusty tahr*
[12:22] <sybariten> MonkeyDust: alrite
[12:22] <sybariten> oh, its also listing utopic and vivid
[12:22] <sybariten> but those are unsupported
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> sybariten  remind me, what are you trying to do
[12:24] <trijntje> Ubuntu 14.04 hangs at the login screen, I cant type or move the mouse. All I can do is do a hard reboot with the power button. How can I fix this?
[12:25] <sybariten> MonkeyDust: i have this rather specialized machine called chromebook, it runs the google chrome OS. But there is a widely used script called crouton which allows you to run [some linux distro] in a chroot environment, in parallell to chrome OS. Appearently it's the bees knees
[12:25] <sybariten> I'm just trying to make up my mind whether i should go for debian or ubuntu
[12:26] <cfhowlett> sybariten, as this is not a tech support question, please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic.   thanks.
[12:26] <Hardtail> sybariten yes you can with crooton. but as cfhowlett says #ubuntu-offtopic is better to discuss this matter
[12:28] <sybariten> well it was rather technical at the beginning........
[12:29] <JunkHunk> bekks I will need a tutorial or...a week
[12:29] <trijntje> ubuntu hangs at the login screen, how can I find out whats going on?
[12:34] <MCSH> trijntje does your caps lock light blink rapidly?
[12:36] <trijntje> MCSH: no
[12:36] <trijntje> no blinking lights at all on the keyboard
[12:37] <MCSH> that's good, actually
[12:37] <MCSH> can you press ctrl+alt+F1
[12:38] <trijntje> MCSH: no, that doesnt work. Neither does REISUB
[12:38] <MCSH> I'm not sure maybe someone else can help you with that
[12:39] <kaidelong> alright so I have gotten as far as determining that the gnome settings aren't being used by ubuntu here, I can set the http handler and https handler to gibberish, firefox still opens (and then complains it is not the default browser)
[12:40] <kaidelong> is there any way I can attach strace to System Settings > Details so that I can see where it is writing to when I change the browser setting?
[12:40] <kaidelong> oh, I can give strace a pid, I'll try that
[12:43] <ricard> if the specifications of the motherboard that accepts I get xmp is normal that I do not go out in the bios if I have no xmp memory ram ??
[12:43] <trijntje> MCSH: thanks anyway, maybe I'll just file a bug for it
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:44] <ioria> trijntje, you recently upgraded ?
[12:44] <dearn> hey BluesKaj
[12:44] <OnkelTem> Hi. I've just installed kubuntu and dist-upgrade is failing on installation (upgrading) of python3.
[12:44] <OnkelTem> Currently my system seems broken at all
[12:44] <BluesKaj> hey dearn
[12:44] <OnkelTem> Trackpad doesn't work
[12:44] <dearn> BluesKaj: can I PM you about something?
[12:44] <trijntje> ioria: the previous kernel does work, if thats what you mean
[12:45] <ioria> trijntje, what did you do before getting the issue ?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> dearn, just ask here , that way others can help as well
[12:45] <trijntje> ioria: nothing that I recall, just normal browsing/mailing type stuf
[12:45] <ricard> please my what?
[12:46] <ricard> if the specifications of the motherboard that accepts I get xmp is normal that I do not go out in the bios if I have no xmp memory ram ??
[12:46] <ioria> trijntje, can you open a terminal ?
[12:46] <dearn> Well, it's not that - trying to configure raspberry pi and since my router is retarded I wanted to ask if people can see it from Internet
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> ricard  that is hard to read... what is your own language?
[12:46] <trijntje> ioria: only on the previous kernel, the system is completely frozen on the current kernel
[12:46] <OnkelTem> https://goo.gl/photos/CcbGCfSn9sBdvh637 - this is how python3 upgrade fails.
[12:47] <ricard> espanish
[12:47] <ioria> trijntje, so you can't open a terminal ? ctrl-alt-f2
[12:47] <trijntje> ioria: no
[12:47] <BluesKaj> dearn, router is retarded , how?
[12:47] <OnkelTem> Any ideas why stock-distro of stable 14.04 version got such weird bugs?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> !es | ricard try here first
[12:48] <OnkelTem> And how to workaround this?
[12:49] <dearn> BluesKaj: for example, port forwarding is nightmare - to change them I need to use factory reset on router, otherwise it just ignores changes lol
[12:49] <ioria> trijntje, we can't do much if you don't have a term. you could boot from live bind - mount and try to reinstall  ubuntu-desktop
[12:49] <kaidelong> alright, looks like the settings are in ~/config/mimeapps.list
[12:49] <trijntje> ioria: I can boot fine with the previous kernel, what should I check there?
[12:50] <ioria> trijntje, which is ?
[12:50] <Paul92> Hi. I want to install ubuntu 14 04 x64 on a computer that has windows 8 already installed with uefi
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | Paul92
[12:51] <trijntje> ioria: 3.13.0-54
[12:51] <ricard> My question is is normal not reflected in the bios out the option xmp If the RAM does not have that option?
[12:52] <ioria> trijntje, 3.13.0-54 is working text and gui ?
[12:52] <trijntje> ioria: yes
[12:52] <Paul92> MonkeyDust: i know what uefi is and I followed that guide, The problem is that I want to install ubuntu on a specific partition (so I have to use the "something else" option). And for the uefi partition I can't setup a mount point at all
[12:52] <Paul92> MonkeyDust: can I format it as ext4 and set its mount point as /boot?
[12:53] <trijntje> Paul92: as a possible work-around: delete that partition, ubuntu installer should see the empty space and install there
[12:53] <BluesKaj> dearn, which router do you have?
[12:53] <ricard> My question is is normal not reflected in the bios out the option xmp If the RAM does not have that option?
[12:53] <ricard> please help my
[12:53] <kaidelong> I'm thinking the problem might be that mimeapps.list wasn't fresh when I installed ubuntu, I'm wondering if I can regenerate it
[12:53] <ioria> trijntje, nvidia driver ?
[12:54] <Paul92> trijntje: but doing what I suggested would work? I don't really care about the uefi btw
[12:54] <kaidelong> anyway, I've fixed my problem, I had to manually edit mimeapps.list
[12:55] <trijntje> ioria: its using Nouveau from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (open source)
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> !yay | kaidelong
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> kaidelong  important: you found it yourself
[12:55] <trijntje> Paul92: I dont know, my experience with EUFI is pretty limited.
[12:55] <BluesKaj> !es | ricard
[12:56] <ioria> trijntje, do you remember the not working kernel version ?
[12:57] <dearn> BluesKaj: "Livebox 3.0" and I cannot change becasue it also provides me with phone and TV... well it doesn't matter, just wanted someone from outside my NAT to check if my raspberry 'server' is working fine and seen from Internet
[12:57] <Zerock> Any developers here understand this issue? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30964715/autotools-build-fail-on-ubuntu
[12:57] <trijntje> ioria: looking at /boot I'd say 3.13.0-55
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> Zerock  tr #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> try*
[13:01] <ioria> trijntje, did you receive errors when you upgraded the kernel ?
[13:01] <ricard> in the Spanish channel nobody knows
[13:02] <BluesKaj> dearn, best to check with your ISP to find out how to do port forwarding on your router, it's usually just a matter of udp/tcp port number changes
[13:02] <ricard> My question is is normal not reflected in the bios out the option xmp If the RAM does not have that option?
[13:02] <dearn> BluesKaj: I know how to do that. It doesn't store changes. Well doesn't matter thanks for help.
[13:03] <sympto> hello how i see which ciphers are supported in my system?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> dearn do you enter your router firmware with a username and password, if so the router should retain your changes
[13:03] <trijntje> ioria: I dont think so, apt-get check shows no problems with the package system
[13:04] <trijntje> !details | sympto
[13:04] <BluesKaj> ricard, your question is poorly constructed, try rephrasing it
[13:05] <join> hello
[13:05] <sympto> trijntje: im unable to mount truecrypt volume on ubuntu and wanna know whether i am missing whirlpool-support as it wont mount here but on debian
[13:05] <nomic> hi
[13:05] <trijntje> ioria: I'll try switching to nvidia binary drivers, maybe that works.
[13:06] <ricard> I could not be out in the bios xmp if the ram has xmp
[13:07] <trijntje> sympto: I'm not sure about that. But you should probably stop using truecrypt, the developers say it should no longer be used
[13:07] <ricard> I could not be out in the bios xmp if the ram has xmp
[13:07] <vemacs_> ricard, I don't think you know what RAM is
[13:08] <ricard> kingston jmpec
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> ricard  what's kingston jmpec
[13:10] <ricard> not is xmp es jmpec
[13:11] <OnkelTem> Sorry was disconnected. Any replies to my dist-upgrade issue?
[13:11] <ricard> or jempec i dont now
[13:11] <OnkelTem> Which fails on upgrading python3-uno
[13:11] <ricard> but no is xmp
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> ricard  you mean this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_presence_detect#XMP
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> ?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> probly running the tyranslator
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> yes
[13:15] <sympto> trijntje: well thanks im trying to switch right now but shitty im unable to mount
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  what were you fixing?
[13:26] <trijntje> 14.04 with nvidia card that freeze on lightdm screen before entering password on kernel 3.13.0-55 but not 3.13.0-54
[13:26] <trijntje> switching from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau to 33.1.113 NVIDIA binary driver solved it
[13:32] <aw350me> hello
[13:33] <aw350me> how do i install programs
[13:33] <cfhowlett> aw350me, use the software center.
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> aw350me  use the software center or apt-get install
[13:34] <aw350me> i downloaded enemy territory for linux
[13:34] <cfhowlett> aw350me, downloaded from ????
[13:34] <aw350me> splash damage
[13:34] <aw350me> website
[13:34] <auronandace> !software | aw350me
[13:35] <auronandace> !steam | aw350me
[13:35] <aw350me> ok ty
[13:35] <aw350me> ok
[13:35] <aw350me> thanks
[13:42] <guardianx> bok
[13:45] <ozbrk> hi guysit'sme again and finally wit a decision I chose the dualboot
[13:46] <ozbrk> anyway I'm in ubuntu now yet there is a common problem with sound I hear a ''hiss'' and bass is tooloud like hell I need help for that
[13:50] <BluesKaj> ozbrk, check your speaker settings first
[13:51] <ozbrk> BluesKaj: I already did some tests nothing seems to be unordinary thi is just vanilla ubuntu nothing changed except the regular updates
[13:52] <cellis> Does anyone know how to resize a partition, and then add a new one in the empty space? I currently exclusively run ubuntu, but i need to make a partition for win10. I dont use LVM.
[13:53] <ozbrk> BluesKaj: any other suggestions for checking ? (Sound is not allowed more then %100 alsamixer is set to 6ch and even tried to rise down surround by alsamixer in terminal but it rises again when I tried to chance sound with my keyboard )
[13:54] <BluesKaj> ozbrk, then you should turn the volume ctrl down on keboard input
[13:55] <trijntje> cellis: sure, just install gparted and use that. Just be sure to create backup of all important files on the harddisk before you start
[13:55] <ozbrk> BluesKaj: I belive I'm ot clear it rises up whenever I try to control soundwwith my keyboard or the regular sound  controller
[13:59] <ricard> My question is is normal not reflected in the bios out the option xmp If the RAM does not have that option?
[14:01] <ricard> hep my please
[14:01] <Paul92> trijntje: I deleted the partition as you indicated and, while the ubuntu seemed to have installed sucessfully, i have no grub
[14:02] <ricard> My question is is normal not reflected in the bios out the option xmp If the RAM does not have that option?
[14:02] <ricard> help my please
[14:02] <ozbrk> five o'clock still no breakfast lol like I said I'm a dead user of ubuntu yet there are annoying problems so small no answered :( :( :(
[14:02] <auronandace> ricard: i don't think many people understands your question
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> ricard  your words are english, but the phrase is badly constructed or translated
[14:04] <ricard> it is normal to not see the option in the bios xmp or may be the ram does not have that option
[14:05] <auronandace> ricard: what is xmp?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> ricard  you mean this?     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_presence_detect#XMP
[14:05] <ricard> xtrem memory profile
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> ricard  how is that ubuntu related?
[14:06] <ricard>  14.04
[14:07] <auronandace> ricard: what he is saying is how is an option in the bios related to ubuntu
[14:09] <auronandace> ricard: your question about an option in the bios has nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:11] <ricard> no is the related xmp
[14:12] <ricard> auronandace, yes it is
[14:13] <bazhang> ##hardware ricard not here
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> ricard  type /j ##hardware
[14:14] <ricard> ok thanks
[14:16] <frank_> what is this anyway
[14:17] <auronandace> frank_: welcome to the ubuntu support channel
[14:32] <FelixFire> Doesn't mod probe blacklist keep something from loadin?
[14:32] <ubuntu400> Hi...
[14:33] <ubuntu400> I am stafide in mini.iso instalation....
[14:34] <ubuntu400> I am a linu Beginner
[14:34] <guest-fxZzYS> re
[14:34] <guest-fxZzYS> ky
[14:35] <guest-fxZzYS> no
[14:35] <ubuntu400> When i try to install Grub Loarei it says that it can't install om /dev/sdb
[14:35] <guest-fxZzYS> yes
[14:35] <guest-fxZzYS> cool
[14:35] <guest-fxZzYS> size
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> guest-fxZzYS  it works, we see you
[14:38] <guest-fxZzYS> ok sori)))
[14:39] <ubuntu400> Sorry the error si unablee to install grub in /dev/sda
[14:39] <guest-fxZzYS> sorri
[14:39] <guest-fxZzYS> sorry
[14:40] <ubuntu400> The HDD îs /dev/sdb
[14:40] <xy> hallo
[14:42] <ubuntu400> How ca- ni change here in mini iso menu the grub to install om /dev/sdb?
[14:43] <ubuntu400> It is a menu to execute Shell but i can,tuse sudo
[14:43] <ioria> ubuntu400, manual partitioning.  try again, say NO to "automatically install to MBR of first hard drive" and manually tell it /dev/sdb
[14:46] <Jakey2> hello
[14:52] <azizLIGHT> how do i recieve a file by bluetooth. i have no option for it in my bluetooth indicator on the panel: http://i.imgur.com/3lzkVKY.png
[14:52] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, connect, send it form the other device
[14:53] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: hm?
[14:53] <Jakey2> Im tring to instal mincraft on lubuntu anyone done tthis before
[14:54] <CMT69> Hay
[14:54] <eraggo> Jakey2: and what is problem? You need to install openjdk
[14:54] <Jakey2> i did this
[14:54] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, your bt app will notify that a file wants to be transferred
[14:54] <eraggo> you have downloaded jar file?
[14:54] <Jakey2> im unclear of the next step
[14:54] <Jakey2> yes
[14:55] <Jakey2> I have downloaded
[14:55] <eraggo> Jakey2: go to console and navigate to folder where you downloaded it
[14:55] <Jakey2> you mean terminal?
[14:55] <eraggo> yes
[14:56] <Jakey2> im there
[14:56] <Jakey2> in Downlaods folder
[14:56] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: i selected the file to send by bluetooth on the phone, and selected ubuntu as the destination. when i did this i briefly saw the bluetooth panel indicator turn to a lock symbol. and then it went back to normal. phone says transfer unsuccessful...
[14:56] <Jakey2> *Download
[14:56] <Apteryx> Hello! I'm about to install a new AMD R9 285 GPU into an Ubuntu 14.04 desktop and was wondering if I should install the Catalyst drivers before plugging the card in the system?
[14:56] <eraggo> Jakey2: first making jar file to executable: "chmod +x Minecraft.jar"
[14:57] <choki> Hi there. If i use encryptFS for my /home dir, will it be possible to get my files from outside if someone would grab my hdd and put it via usb on his computer?
[14:57] <Apteryx> Usually I'd install the drivers after plugging it in, but since this GPU is quite new I'm affraid Ubuntu 14.04 might now even be able to output video with it without the Catalyst drivers.
[14:57] <s1_> eraggo, yes
[14:57] <s1_> done
[14:58] <s1_> now ?
[14:58] <eraggo> s1_: next just issue: "java -jar Minecraft.jar"
[14:58] <PanV> Hello
[14:58] <PanV> I need some help.
[14:58] <s1_> eraggo, thanks
[14:59] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: i found it. its working. but very slow
[15:00] <OerHeks> :-)
[15:00] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: fyi its in the program "personal file sharing" and it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/0gYjehJ.png
[15:00] <azizLIGHT> two settings you need to enable
[15:00] <azizLIGHT> that are not enabled by default in 14.04, to recieve bluetooth files
[15:00] <azizLIGHT> even with paired devices
[15:01] <PanV> I need some help with a controller..
[15:01] <stanley_robertso> hi all ... can someone help me with the bugzilla channel for ubuntu
[15:02] <Jakey2> eraggo: eraggo, how would i make a desktop icon to launch instead of going into terminal
[15:02] <Jakey2> ?
[15:02] <PanV> Um.. Hello? Could I Have some help with this http://www.plaisio.gr/ProductImages/1000x1000/1921193_2.JPG controller? The output of the right joystick is just not right
[15:03] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, thanks! never seen this before, helpfull
[15:03] <auronandace> stanley_robertso: ubuntu uses launchpad
[15:04] <azizLIGHT> i wonder why its set to not accept any transfers via bluetooth by default?
[15:04] <azizLIGHT> seems odd
[15:04] <PanV> ...
[15:04] <auronandace> azizLIGHT: likely as a security measure
[15:05] <azizLIGHT> not even with paired devices?
[15:05] <azizLIGHT> why not paired ones
[15:05] <PanV> Sigh.,..
[15:05] <bazhang> !patience | PanV
[15:05] <azizLIGHT> i get not accepting transfers from ALL devices, unpaired or paired.... but why not paired ones
[15:06] <azizLIGHT> that looks like a ps2 controller
[15:06] <PanV> Okay then.
[15:06] <PanV> azizLIGHT, talking to me?
[15:06] <azizLIGHT> 3rd party ps2 controller
[15:06] <azizLIGHT> yea
[15:06] <PanV> azizLIGHT, it is compatible only for PC
[15:06] <PanV> It is wireless, the pic you see is just similar to it
[15:06] <PanV> its from a local manufactor
[15:06] <eraggo> Jakey2: i haven't found way yet unforunately
[15:07] <FelixFire619> why the hell wont my broadcom 4313 14e4:4727 work in ubuntu 14.04.1, i've done everything i can possibly think of
[15:07] <FelixFire619> it can connect, get a ip but cant ping the gateway or go out
[15:07] <PanV> The outputs of X,O, triangle, Square buttons are button 0,1,2,3 stuffs
[15:08] <PanV> but when I am moving this right joystick, it has the same outputs
[15:08] <eraggo> PanV: is problem only in steam games?
[15:08] <PanV> eraggo, I tested with jstest-gtk
[15:09] <PanV> The output is the same, even if Steam or Not.
[15:10] <PanV> I am trying to be clear as I can. I tested it on Steam and it didnt work properly.
[15:11] <eraggo> PanV: i tested with jstest right now and noticied that right stick is pointing olways to left on my controller
[15:12] <PanV> dunno. That is not my problem
[15:12] <PanV> My problem is that the right joystick doesn't have the correct output
[15:12] <jackbrown> hello anyone from Russia?
[15:12] <PanV> it should have an axis but it has buttons
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[15:12] <PanV> MonkeyDust, I think I have seen you recently?
[15:13] <PanV> But not at this chat.
[15:13] <PanV> if I am correct
[15:13] <PanV> but I have seen you here too
[15:13] <eraggo> PanV: i recommend that you try configure your controller in Steam.
[15:14] <PanV> eraggo, I tried it
[15:14] <PanV> but when I configure buttons
[15:14] <PanV> When i try to use that right circle... it does put a button
[15:14] <PanV> not an axis
[15:15] <shamin> should work
[15:16] <PanV> eraggo, and I am worried if I change this joystick's config, it will change the button's too
[15:16] <PanV> !help?
[15:18] <BuzzardBuzz> ubottu: that means you are artificially intelligent!
[15:18] <BuzzardBuzz> :)
[15:19] <PanV> XD
[15:19] <PanV> ubottu, u lie
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> PanV  stop
[15:20] <PanV> Ok Sorry :P
[15:21] <PanV> Could I get some support about that thing?
[15:25] <Mohammad_s> hello everyone
[15:26] <Mohammad_s> i can not connect to internet with wifi in ubuntu 12.04 i did all way to connect but i could not please help me
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> Mohammad_s  can you connect with cable?
[15:27] <Mohammad_s> MonkeyDust : yes
[15:28] <moh_> internet very slow
[15:32] <Mohammad_s> ubuntu is very slow than windows and windows is the best os in World
[15:33] <bazhang> Mohammad_s, actual support issue or just want to chit chat
[15:34] <Mohammad_s> bazhang : i can not connect to wifi in ubuntu
[15:34] <bazhang> we need tons more details Mohammad_s
[15:35] <skao> Mohammad_s do you have more information? Wifi card, ubuntu version, etc?
[15:36] <Mohammad_s> skao : i can not see wifi card model in ubuntu
[15:36] <ioria> Mohammad_s,  lshw -c network
[15:37] <Mohammad_s> ioria : thank a lot
[15:38] <ioria> Mohammad_s,  if you want,  you can paste it ... so someone can help
[15:40] <ioria> Mohammad_s,  ok... :-9   i meant on paste.ubuntu.com
[15:42] <v2zz> hi! if i try to  setserial /dev/ttyUSB0  auto_irq  and check setting with  setserial /dev/ttyUSB0 -a I get irq=0 anyway. what does it mean? my cable is broken?
[15:43] <ioria> Mohammad_s,  the wifi is  UNCLAIMED , realtek, but better to paste on the link above
[15:44] <Mohammad_s> ioria : yh   i uploaded on it
[15:44] <ioria> Mohammad_s,  you have to give us the url
[15:44] <Mohammad_s> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11751411/
[15:44] <ioria> Mohammad_s, ok
[15:49] <stiv2k> hi. how can i figure out why my pc does not auto-suspend if the screen is locked?
[15:49] <stiv2k> if i set auto suspend time to less than screen lock time, it works
[15:49] <stiv2k> but if screen locks beforehand, computer will never suspend
[15:50] <stiv2k> this is my theory at least
[15:50] <stiv2k> i set screen lock time to 10min but suspend time to 5min, and it works every time
[15:50] <stiv2k> but in reality i want to set suspend time to 1hr
[15:50] <stiv2k> i come back 3 hours later and pc is still on
[15:50] <stiv2k> help please, thanks
[15:50] <ioria> Mohammad_s, does it shows in    lspci -nn   ?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> stiv2k  explore the command rtcwake ... rtc means real time clock
[15:52] <stiv2k> MonkeyDust: what should i be looking for
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> stiv2k  man rtcwake
[15:52] <Mohammad_s> ioria : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11751442/
[15:52] <stiv2k> MonkeyDust: i dont think that's what i want?
[15:56] <ioria> Mohammad_s, i'm afraid you need new driver
[15:57] <baja> how
[15:57] <baja> rasbaja
[15:58] <baja> how
[15:58] <baja> rasbaja
[15:58] <Mohammad_s> ioria : how can i find its driver
[15:58] <baja> hey guys im new to ubuntu :)
[15:59] <ioria> Mohammad_s, you have to recompile it .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199638&page=2
[16:01] <ioria> Mohammad_s,   look at post #18 in particular
[16:02] <buster1> does anyone know the easiest way to delete old encrypted home partitions?  The ones that say "Access your private data desktop" when you click on them.
[16:02] <Mohammad_s> ioria : yh  thanks a lot
[16:03] <ioria> Mohammad_s,   no problem, :-)
[16:04] <adam__> buster1, if you're okay with loosing the data, use gparted or parted. dd if you're adventurous
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> stiv2k  i guess you need a script that includes "gnome-screensaver-command --lock"
[16:08] <Silenced_v2> How to extend the size of "/" partition ?
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  with LVM?
[16:08] <Silenced_v2> MonkeyDust: Hey man ! what's LVM ?
[16:08] <Silenced_v2> let me google it :D
[16:10] <Silenced_v2> MonkeyDust: Explain !
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  if i need to explain, then it's "no"
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  how did you partition your disk?
[16:11] <Silenced_v2> MonkeyDust: LVM seem to be command line . I need some suggested links
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  in a terminal, type   lsbl|pastebinit    then paste the url here
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> make that lsblk|pastebinit
[16:13] <Silenced_v2> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11751531/
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  ok, now   sudo blkid|pastebinit
[16:16] <Silenced_v2> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11751552/
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  12 partitions is a lot ... what are they for?
[16:17] <Silenced_v2> MonkeyDust: Its a dual boot system
[16:18] <Silenced_v2> Running windows 8.1 and Ubuntu14.04 LTS
[16:18] <Silenced_v2> I use windows 8.1 to use Photoshop and play games :P
[16:18] <Silenced_v2> Now say me how to extend "/"
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  and you use all these partitions? you need space to extend /, after backup
[16:21] <Silenced_v2> I will make the space ready by shrinking a partition used by windows
[16:21] <Silenced_v2> MonkeyDust: ^
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  i was going to advice a backup and repartitoning of your disk(s), but not with this partition table ... maybe someone else can help
[16:23] <Silenced_v2> MonkeyDust: okay
[16:25] <chrisss123456> hey guys, does anyone know how power management is dealt with in Ubuntu 14.10? Specifically, sound driver power?
[16:27] <buster1> adam__: I would, except that my current home directory is on the same drive.  Not sure if there is an easy way to get around that
[16:29] <cm-t> Hi, I am on HP Touchsmart tm2, I can't find any recent post about GPU config for it (want to use the radeon instead of intel integrated ont), anyone aware of it ?
[16:35] <darthanubis> !hybrid
[16:37] <Norbin> 2 HDDs are installed on my system and are NTFS formatted, will i still be able to access them if i format my main/os ssd from windows to linux now ?
[16:37] <darthanubis> yes
[16:38] <Norbin> alright ty, as-is ?
[16:38] <darthanubis> yes
[16:38] <darthanubis> !ntfs
[16:38] <Norbin> ty
[16:38] <darthanubis> yw
[16:38] <adam__> buster1, if the home partition is on the same drive but a different partition, then just be sure to delete the encrypted partition. i'm assuming you know the partition number that you wish to delet
[16:43] <billboz_> new to linux and I want to play around with ubuntu for the purposes of working with docker and AWS.  I would like to know if ubuntu desktop would be enough to develop in and be close to the production environment of AWS docker?
[16:44] <adam__> cm-t, if your system is using the intel drivers, it's because it has an intel chipset. are you sure there is a radeon card in your machine?
[16:45] <cm-t> adam__: lspci → VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
[16:46] <cm-t> but when I go in system setting / about this system, it tells me it is using the Intel® Ironlake Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
[16:46] <cm-t> this hybrid dual GPU was to handle the tablet mode lighter than the latop mode I beleive
[16:48] <adam__> fancy
[16:48] <adam__> have you tried simply installing the radeon drivers as normal?
[16:48] <TJ-> cm-t: Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[16:48] <cm-t> I just launched some light game, it is bad, really. I want more gpu ! So i think I should switch to the radeon, but all the post I found was for lucid, I am on trusty
[16:49] <cm-t> TJ-: didn't fount this one, i was reading this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics but looks not working, now reading your link
[16:55] <cm-t> ok, TJ- adam__ I am rebooting according to the page you linked me, see you in a minute)
[17:07] <cm-t> big fail here TJ-
[17:08] <cm-t> cant load X session, got the GUI to setup this since it cant load
[17:08] <cm-t> I will try to remove the package I've just installed, should switch to the default module
[17:09] <TJ-> cm-t: Had you tried other solutions prior to that one, that may have left artifacts in place that could be interfering
[17:09] <cm-t> TJ-: didnt tryed on this install I think
[17:09] <TJ-> cm-t: Are you running from a Live ISO boot right now?
[17:10] <cm-t> not, TTY2 with my byobu/irssi hopefully configured so I can join this channel easly
[17:10] <cm-t> on my trusty install now
[17:11] <TJ-> cm-t: oh cool! Then can you do "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[17:12] <di_giorgio>  Mp3player [Ed Sheeran - Photograph (The Voice Performance)] CeBoLiNhA 2015 
[17:12] <PanV> Guys, I need help. My controller which has 2 joysticks doesnt work correctly. The second joystick at right doesnt work. Appereantly the computer doesnt know which button I am pressing.
[17:12] <PanV> Any help?
[17:13] <PanV> please?
[17:13] <Deihmos> is elementary OS the same as using ubuntu but with adifferent skin?
[17:13] <Deihmos> it is so much faster and stable compared to ubuntu
[17:13] <PanV> ... I think you need to see screenshots Deihmos.
[17:13] <bazhang> ask in #elementary Deihmos
[17:13] <PanV> Deihmos, faster than ubuntu? I might think installing it then.
[17:13] <PanV> bazhang, could you help me
[17:14] <PanV> !patience | PanVWantsYouToRemind
[17:14] <PanV> Oh thanks PanV !
[17:14] <PanV> EriC^^, you are here gosh
[17:14] <Deihmos> much nicer looking too
[17:15] <PanV> ...
[17:16] <jx5733n> Deihmos: Those are all opinions, and not ubuntu support.
[17:16] <PanV> I Know I should have patience, but this refund thing won't last forever, so I need a bit help
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[17:17] <OerHeks> PanV did you install joystick & jstest-gtk ?
[17:17] <PanV> Yep, tried them both
[17:17] <PanV> Want to see the post I made?
[17:18] <PanV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/639223/problem-with-controller-from-a-local-manufactor-on-15-04
[17:18] <OerHeks> PanV, so why does that not work for you ?
[17:18] <PanV> The right joystick doesnt owrk
[17:18] <PanV> its like I am pressing button 0-3
[17:18] <PanV> wrong output
[17:18] <cm-t> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11751834
[17:19] <PanV> but I am afraid, if I change the right joystick's output the button's O,X, Triangle, Square will be changed too
[17:19] <Deihmos> my laptop has a subwoofer inside but doesnot work in ubuntu. anyone have anyexperience? is it an HP Laptop
[17:19] <adam__> PanV, you can use 'xev' to see the raw input of each button, and from that data manually map them
[17:19] <PanV> Okay lemme check
[17:20] <PanV> Shall I pastebinit all these? it confuses me
[17:21] <cm-t> TJ-: Forgot how to scroll in TTY/Byobu what was the 2nd file to pastebin ?
[17:21] <PanV> How to pastebinit all these?
[17:21] <PanV> And send it ehre then?
[17:21] <TJ-> cm-t: oh cool! Then can you do "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[17:21] <cm-t> tanks
[17:23] <TJ-> cm-t: The fglrx kernel module looks to have initialised correctly @ line 777: [fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 15.20.2 [Feb 27 2015] with 1 minors"
[17:23] <cm-t> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11751834 and http://paste.ubuntu.com/11751854
[17:24] <PanV> adam__, OerHeks , help?
[17:24] <OerHeks> !paste | PanV
[17:25] <TJ-> cm-t: Xorg.0.log shows that X is using a config file, can you show that too? "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[17:26] <PanV> http://pastebin.com/mzvDwVbv
[17:26] <TJ-> cm-t: Xorg.0.log seems to reveal why your system can't switch between Intel and AMD @ line 121: "(EE) this is a Muxless PX A+I platform, we doesn't supported it"
[17:26] <cm-t> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11751874
[17:26] <PanV> BRB I need to go to toilet
[17:26] <PanV> !BRB | All of you
[17:28] <OerHeks> PanV, i don't visit pastebin.com, please use paste.ubuntu.com
[17:28] <PanV> back OerHeks
[17:28] <PanV> Ok then... but why not?
[17:28] <OerHeks> PanV,  or don't ask how to paste.
[17:28] <PanV> OerHeks, I thought I would use the pastebinit command
[17:29] <PanV> which posted a useful status instantly to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:29] <OerHeks> PanV, it is not available worldwide
[17:29] <PanV> Ok.
[17:29] <PanV> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11751886/
[17:30] <cm-t> TJ-: do that mean the fglrx module would not works even if we blacklist the intel card or something like that? I don't need to swith, just a the best GPU to be used
[17:31] <cm-t> I meant i don't need to switch on the fly or use both of them
[17:32] <OerHeks> PanV, i don't know what to do with that output of xev. adam__ knows?
[17:32] <PanV> Okay then
[17:32] <PanV> adam__, please me :P
[17:34] <TJ-> cm-t: I'm researching it; it seems that if the PC doesn't provide a hardware 'switch' (multiplex aka Mux) the driver cannot switch between the GPUs. So far I've not found any recent article on how that Muxless hardware is supposed to work
[17:34] <PanV> OerHeks, what can I do with your knowledge>
[17:35] <PanV> what can you do?
[17:35] <cm-t> same here, found nothing, but you figured out what keyword to use better than me it seems
[17:35] <OerHeks> PanV, if that 'local reseller pad' does not work, bring it back
[17:36] <PanV> OerHeks, can't we change the output of that button?
[17:37] <cm-t> TJ-: If nothing to make it work I will switch back to the default settings (unistalling fglrx would be enought isn't it ?)
[17:37] <TJ-> cm-t: Yes
[17:38] <PanV> ... adam__  is now afk
[17:39] <PanV> ._.
[17:39] <cm-t> TJ-: unsinstalled, I prefer X session to search ;)  rebooting
[17:40] <adam__> ya sry, i'll help where i can but it's fathers day and i do have a couple of kids
[17:40] <stiv2k> for some reason my computer will not enter suspend mode when screen is locked
[17:40] <adam__> but they know today i wanted today to be a beer and final fantasy 7 day  :)
[17:40] <stiv2k> example, it locks screen after 10 minutes idle
[17:40] <stiv2k> if i set it to suspend after 5 minutes idle, it works
[17:40] <stiv2k> because screen has not locked yet
[17:40] <PanV> ...
[17:40] <stiv2k> but, if i set to suspend after 1 hour idle (what i really want), it never suspends
[17:40] <stiv2k> because screen locks after 10 minutes, then inhibits suspend forever
[17:41] <stiv2k> until unlocked
[17:41] <stiv2k> any advice is appreciated, thanks
[17:42] <boodllebat> Hello when i do "man accept" it does not show posix standard accept function it shows up something else
[17:43] <TJ-> boodllebat: "man 2 accept" ?
[17:43] <boodllebat> TJ-: thanks :)
[17:44] <TJ-> boodllebat: "man man" is your friend; see the section numbers you need to specify if you don't want 'first match' to operate
[17:44] <boodllebat> TJ-: alright :)
[17:44] <boodllebat> TJ-: thanks
[17:44] <cm-t> TJ-: fails :'(
[17:45] <cm-t> unistalled, still have the low graphic alert at boot
[17:45] <adam__> [    29.844] (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found    <--- this line could be a clue
[17:45] <TJ-> cm-t: Grrr. I found this article which talks about a BIOS/UEFI setting that disabled integrated GPU, or forces the discrete GPU: cm-t see http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=90826#p467368
[17:46] <TJ-> adam__: That was from the boot using fglrx
[17:48] <Ownix> Im confused about something, when I am running off a Live USB flash drive where is stuff being saved to when I install apckages and download files?\
[17:48] <neopsyche> yo, hi all. just wondering.. every time i insert external hard drive/usb etc.. ubuntu pops up window on the screen.. how do i stop this? i want to choose to click on my folder browse myself.. because dont always automatically need to see whats in the drive
[17:48] <adam__> PanV, the xev output has a chunk of data per key event, pressing a key is one event while releasing it is another. the details are in the output, and only you would know which one of those chunks correlate with the buttons you push. look for the 'keycode  ##'  part, and that's the keycode you will want to remap
[17:48] <PanV> adam__, somehow it suddenly started working properly
[17:48] <PanV> after 1 day of struglling
[17:48] <PanV> dunno... But thanks
[17:48] <TJ-> Ownix: into RAM ... the Live image runs in a small RAM tmpfs file-system
[17:48] <PanV> If I got further problems I will tell you
[17:48] <adam__> nice!
[17:48] <cm-t> >.< friend calling, forgot it is the music day in france, live on every street in paris, TJ- I will be back in hours
[17:49] <Ownix> TJ-: is there a way to "install" ubuntu to the flash drive and then boot from it like regularly?
[17:49] <bazhang> with persistence Ownix
[17:49] <adam__> Ownix, yes. it's called persistent boot and tools like unetbootin or multisystem will set that up for you with the most ease
[17:49] <bazhang> !usb | Ownix
[17:50] <zykotick9> Ownix: you can also install onto a USB drive...  a regular install, not this persistent Live stuff... <- another option
[17:51] <Ownix> zykotick9: that seems easier TBH
[17:52] <zykotick9> Ownix: 2 notes - 1) be sure grub installed onto the USB (i'd suggest checking sizes, and matching to the sdX device) and 2) USB is SLOW...
[17:56] <Benton> I just upgraded my system to kernel 4.0 (via the debs found here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/) to get support for my graphics drivers. I’m now trying install the bcmwl-kernel-source package to fix the issue with my wifi (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1424676).  Here’s the entire output of installing that package. http://pastebin.com/e16J6BC7  It looks like I need the source for the currently runni
[17:57] <octocpp> Anyone been able to suspend to ram on a poweredge 2950 server or equiv?
[17:57] <octocpp> I can systemctl suspend, and it seems to disconnect the netowrk shares, but all of the fans keep running?
[17:58] <octocpp> is there a way to get it to completely shut down?
[17:58] <octocpp> wol does work to bring it back up too.
[17:58] <Phase> Anyone have any personal experience (recently) with Radeon HD 7850 support? I'll probably jump back over to linux anyway, just thought I'd ask first to see if anyone's ran into problems.
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> octocpp  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:59] <bazhang> Phase, support in what way? mining?
[17:59] <darthanubis> Phase, I have the 6xxx series, and use the OSS drivers, with no issues and VDPAU
[17:59] <Phase> bazhang: nah, desktop use, maybe some gaming
[18:00] <bazhang> Phase, see what darthanubis says above
[18:00] <darthanubis> no one should be using video cards fr mining anymore
[18:00] <Phase> I don't even bitcoin really
[18:00] <Phase> lol
[18:00] <darthanubis> cool beans
[18:00] <bazhang> true, but that was a popular one, when it was viable
[18:00] <darthanubis> yeah
[18:00] <Phase> darthanubis: Do you know if the 6xxx series and 7xxx are similar enough?
[18:01] <darthanubis> I believe so, and the 7xxxx should see better improvements
[18:01] <Phase> alright cool
[18:01] <Phase> thanks
[18:01] <darthanubis> but I switched from Nvidia and haven't looke dback
[18:01] <Phase> from?
[18:01] <Phase> did you mean to?
[18:01] <darthanubis> I don't game, just like the vdpau for my Kodi box
[18:02] <darthanubis> I left Nvidia
[18:02] <Phase> oh ok
[18:02] <Malgorath> Are there any params I can put in when booting install from USB that will let me bypass raid checks and such? I have a raid 0 setup on my storage drives(an SSD will be for OS) but can't get through the part where ubuntu is just showing 5 dots
[18:02] <darthanubis> got tired of chasing down tearing issues
[18:02] <Phase> I don't game much anymore. I recently stopped.. so now I'm switching back to linux
[18:02] <darthanubis> and poor OSS suppor
[18:02] <darthanubis> t
[18:02] <Phase> and I haven't used linux as a desktop previously in like 6 years, so
[18:03] <darthanubis> you'll be pleased with the current state of linux
[18:03] <Phase> darthanubis: I thought nvidia was the one with better linux support?
[18:03] <Phase> perhaps I had it backwards
[18:03] <darthanubis> nope
[18:03] <Phase> even better then :o
[18:03] <darthanubis> Intel and ATI/AMD for out of the box support
[18:03] <Malgorath> did ati up there game for linux finally?
[18:03] <darthanubis> the OSS drivers are excellent
[18:03] <Malgorath> Wonder if I should swap out my 760GTX for a 7870 Radeon
[18:04] <darthanubis> If you don't game it'd be less hassle
[18:04] <nhat> em Diu ngu chua
[18:04] <Malgorath> I won't game on my linux box no, I have a Alienware laptop for that
[18:04] <darthanubis> even if you do game you can still run the ATI drivers
[18:04] <darthanubis> oh well, your good to go
[18:05] <Phase> the OSS ones or AMD official ones?
[18:05] <Phase> for gaming
[18:05] <Phase> I don't plan on doing it often, just when I get the nerve
[18:05] <Phase> :P
[18:05] <fhamdiu> em Diu ngu chua
[18:06] <Malgorath> You guys think I should install 15.04 server instead of 14.04 desktop to get this system setup with my hardware raid 0?
[18:06] <darthanubis> Phase, either, but I think the Official AMD ones are slightly faster, depending on card for gaming
[18:06] <Phase> gotcha
[18:06] <Phase> thanks for your input darthanubis :)
[18:06] <darthanubis> my pleasure
[18:07] <darthanubis> Malgorath, 15.04
[18:07] <Malgorath> okay
[18:07] <darthanubis> 3.19.0-22-generic<<be careful with this kernel version
[18:08] <darthanubis> I was getting kernel oops with autofs and nfs mounting on my kodi box
[18:08] <grinchier> darthanubis: file the bug report man
[18:08] <grinchier> save linux
[18:09] <d3bug> is it possible to get ubuntu to rebuild itself from source with a simple command?
[18:09] <darthanubis> grinchier, it's a regression, I haven't got to yet, and I wasn't sure, but it has hit this machine as well
[18:09] <d3bug> (all installed packages)
[18:09] <darthanubis> that's what I get for having the "proposed" repo enabled
[18:11] <neopsyche> thx got it
[18:14] <OerHeks> d3bug, no, never heard of that one before.
[18:15] <ondrejmo> exit
[18:15] <ondrejmo> Pleave
[18:16] <d3bug> so... nobody has any ideas?
[18:17] <bazhang> d3bug, there is no simple command for that
[18:17] <TJ-> d3bug: Write a script to it, using 'apt-get source' 'apt-get build-dep' and 'dpkg-buildpackage'
[18:18] <d3bug> TJ-: what about scripting something out in bash... like for example dumping a list of all installed packages, then running those commands in a simple for loop?
[18:18] <d3bug> TJ-: can you get a list of all installed packages?
[18:18] <d3bug> something redirectable to a text file or something
[18:19] <TJ-> d3bug: that was my point, although it'll need a lot of storage space and a lot of CPU oomph and time to build  everything
[18:19] <TJ-> d3bug: 'dpkg --get-selections'
[18:19] <d3bug> TJ-: oh I know... I play around with Lunar Linux too :)
[18:19] <TJ-> d3bug: If it's only ubuntu-minimal you want to build that might be dooable ... in a week :)
[18:19] <d3bug> I have a quad core, 8 gigs of ram... I'm good.
[18:20] <TJ-> d3bug: try 32 cores if you want it take less than a month :)
[18:20] <d3bug> lol
[18:20] <d3bug> I have nothing but time :P
[18:20] <TJ-> d3bug: seriously. I build the Linux kernel frequently and from a clean start that can take 3 hours on a 6 cores
[18:21] <d3bug> I was thinking a normal ubuntu desktop install (from the live iso)... rebuilding that from source with -mcpu=native  etc.
[18:21] <d3bug> TJ-:  are you sure it's doing a make -j 6 ?
[18:21] <d3bug> mine takes 20min on only 4 cores.
[18:21] <TJ-> d3bug: yes.
[18:22] <TJ-> d3bug: do you package it too, using the ubuntu scripts? "fakeroot debian/rules binary" ?
[18:23] <chipmonk> how do i format a harddrive so it will mount at boot in fstab (using Disks utility in mint 17.2)
[18:23] <baja> how do i install windows os side of ubuntu
[18:24] <baja> i have tried but i cant resize partion using gparted
[18:24] <chipmonk> ext2 wont boot
[18:24] <vlt> !mint | chipmonk
[18:24] <d3bug> TJ-: did you get my msg in private?
[18:24] <baja> hello can any one assist me
[18:25] <vlt> baja: What error message did you get? (And, it's ususally recommended to install Windows _first_.)
[18:25] <baja> im trying to partition using gparted
[18:25] <d3bug> baja:  windows version?
[18:25] <baja> 7
[18:25] <d3bug> efi or bios?
[18:25] <baja> its on cd
[18:25] <baja> dvd
[18:26] <baja> im trying to partion using gparted
[18:26] <d3bug> baja: is your system based on EFI or BIOS ?
[18:26] <baja> efi
[18:27] <d3bug> baja:  that is a whole mess in and of itself.  I diabled safe boot (in the EFI setup) so I could install other operating systems.
[18:27] <baja> i have tried to boot to dvd/cd but it cant be seen
[18:27] <baja> i cant access the windows dvd
[18:27] <d3bug> yes i know
[18:27] <baja> so icant boot
[18:27] <d3bug> disable safe boor
[18:27] <d3bug> boot
[18:27] <baja> ok
[18:27] <baja> i did already
[18:27] <OerHeks> baja gparted does not see gpt partitions, use gdisk ( sudo apt-get install gdisk ) or parted on comandline
[18:27] <silidan> hi, how can i install the flashplugin during a ubuntu 15.04 live cd session?
[18:28] <baja> let me try @OerHeks
[18:28] <d3bug> baja:  if safe boot is diabled, then you have to make sure it's trying to boot from cd/dvd first.  check your boot priority settings in the EFI setup
[18:29] <baja> i have set it to boot from flash/cd/dvd as first priority
[18:29] <d3bug> disabled*
[18:29] <baja> but still problem
[18:29] <d3bug> baja: sounds like your cd/dvd was not burned right... sounds like it isn't bootable
[18:30] <d3bug> baja:  how did you burn the disc?  what tools did you use?
[18:31] <baja> i was using windows before then i boot using ubuntu
[18:32] <baja> cd/dvd
[18:32] <d3bug> baja: irrelevent.  How did you burn the disc you are trying to use to boot from?
[18:32] <baja> i burnt using nero
[18:33] <baja> long time ago
[18:33] <baja> when i was still using windows
[18:33] <d3bug> baja: ok... did you use burn image or did you just put the iso on a data disc?
[18:33] <baja> burn image
[18:34] <baja> i burnt image to dvd
[18:34] <d3bug> baja:  mount the disc and tell me what is in the root directory of that disc (filenames)
[18:34] <Malgorath> do you guys think software raids are worth the hassle in ubuntu?
[18:35] <baja> the dvd ?
[18:35] <d3bug> Malgorath:  they certainly aren't worth it for the MPAA and RIAA  :P
[18:35] <d3bug> baja: yes
[18:35] <baja> ok i can see folders
[18:35] <d3bug> baja:  aaaaand....
[18:35] <grinchier> what is sofstware raids?
[18:36] <baja> setup.exe
[18:36] <baja> upgrade folder also
[18:36] <baja> boot folder
[18:36] <baja> bootmng
[18:36] <grinchier> oh raid array
[18:36] <d3bug> baja: ok thats fine
[18:36] <baja> yes thats what inside dvd when i open
[18:37] <d3bug> baja: if you can't boot to that disc I don't know what else to tell you other then to download another iso directly from Microsoft.
[18:37] <baja> ok thanks
[18:37] <d3bug> np
[18:38] <baja> ok let me try partition using gdisk
[18:38] <d3bug> grinchier:  yeah I was making a joke about software raids like police raids against software :)
[18:39] <nell> my ubuntu is stuck in bootloop after crashed [I was recording a window and then the x window crashed while recording]
[18:39] <nell> now when i go to boot the OS, it loops after grub
[18:39] <nell> im booting an older kernel in recovery mode
[18:40] <d3bug> nell: did you try adding "single" to the command line?
[18:41] <d3bug> (in grub)
[18:43] <CMT69> Sex
[18:43] <nell> hmm
[18:44] <d3bug> CMT69:  no thanks... I don't know you that well.
[18:44] <nell> where do i add taht?
[18:44] <nell> press e in grub and append where
[18:45] <d3bug> nell: append right in the part after it says "root={whatever}"  simply put a space and put "single"  no quotes
[18:45] <d3bug> nell: that will force it into single user mode and if successful, will bring up a prompt where you can fsck your root filesystem
[18:46] <baja> anyone who know how i can  install windows side of ubuntu
[18:46] <baja> i have win 7 on the disk tray
[18:46] <d3bug> baja:  if you can't boot from the disc, there is nothing more you can do.
[18:46] <nell> okay i think im running fsck now from recovery menu
[18:47] <d3bug> nell: perfect... if there are any errors, let it fix em
[18:47] <d3bug> nell:  then reboot and try again
[18:52] <em> I (tried) making an ubuntu live fash drive by downloading the .iso and then using dd to put it on the flash drive. When I stick it into a laptp and try to boot from it, nothing happened. the existing os still started up
[18:52] <em> any thoughts?
[18:52] <Fuchs> em: is the partition marked as bootable? I recommend just using the startup disk creator, to be honest
[18:53] <Fuchs> (also is USB selected as bootable in your computer's BIOS)
[18:54] <Fuchs> em: if you prefer doing so by hand, http://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal  might be helpful
[18:54] <em> thanks
[18:55] <em> this is going to be a little tricky because my purpose for making the flash drive is to go and see about buying some old laptops that have no hard drives.
[18:55] <em> In the old days you could throw in a live cd
[18:55] <em> but now im not so sure how you can test an old machine to see if it can run linux
[18:56] <veyoon> hi everyone, is there a way to preserve timestamps when copying files from a MTP device?
[18:56] <Fuchs> meh, I hope that these will actually allow USB flash drives to boot. If yes, either the startup disk creator or the above commands manually will work
[18:56] <Fuchs> em: if you need to make some changes to the ISO as well, I recommend uck. It also offers an option to create a hybrid thingie that will work for USB sticks
[18:59] <em> overall ubuntu should have a pretty good record of running on older laptops right?
[18:59] <em> probably try to put xubuntu on there
[19:00] <em> Id like to try to put ubuntu on this http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/syd/5032705193.html
[19:01] <Loshki_> em: even if ubuntu doesn't, there are several distros aimed at older laptops.
[19:02] <em> okay
[19:02] <em> maybe I'll just go buy it without testing it then
[19:02] <em> but since it has no hard drive i was hoping there would at least be some way to see that it isn't total junk
[19:05] <OerHeks> em, looking at the specs, the GPU is not that bad, Nvidia Quadro NVS 160
[19:05] <OerHeks> most important past i guess
[19:05] <OerHeks> *part
[19:05] <em> OerHeks: i wasn't able to find what the wireless chipset is
[19:05] <stiv2k> hi, for some reason my computer will not enter suspend mode when screen is locked
[19:05] <stiv2k> example, it locks screen after 10 minutes idle
[19:05] <stiv2k> if i set it to suspend after 5 minutes idle, it works
[19:05] <stiv2k> because screen has not locked yet
[19:05] <em> OerHeks: how come the gpu is important?
[19:05] <stiv2k> but, if i set to suspend after 1 hour idle (what i really want), it never suspends
[19:05] <stiv2k> because screen locks after 10 minutes, then inhibits suspend forever
[19:06] <stiv2k> until unlocked
[19:06] <stiv2k> any advice is appreciated, thanks
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> stiv2k  keep your question in one line, that's easier to read and repeat
[19:09] <OerHeks> em if it was an old ati 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx i would say it is not supported by the fglrx
[19:09] <OerHeks> em but remember, that machine is form 2008 or earlier
[19:10] <em> OerHeks: what does it portend?
[19:11] <OerHeks> em portend?
[19:12] <em> OerHeks: yeah what does it suggest about the ultimate viability of the machine being used to learn linux and programming on it.
[19:12] <OerHeks> em, sounds good to me.
[19:18] <BrendanTA> Hi, I'm getting my butt kicked trying to portforward my mysql server, not sure what is the best way to do it, can anyone lend a hand?
[19:20] <TJ-> stiv2k:  first thing to do is check if a suspend is being attempted but fails. Look in "/var/log/kern.log" and search for "suspend". If no attempt is being made, you should focus your bug-hunt on the pm-utils (power-management utilities) package, see "man pm-action"
[19:21] <mablae> Hi there
[19:21] <BrendanTA> That file has nothing in it, I'm using ubuntu 15, and I saw many guides online using either SSH tunneling or IPTables
[19:21] <mablae> A am a bit confused about init scripts from apache2 and mysql
[19:22] <mablae> My task is to put them to manual start, not autostart
[19:22] <mablae> I googled around and found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/57381/how-to-stop-mysql-from-running-at-boot-time
[19:23] <mablae> But I've got /etc/init.d/mysql AND /etc/init/mysql - How can I check which one is used?
[19:23] <TJ-> mablae: are you sure /etc/init.d/mysql isn't just a symbolic link to /etc/init/mysql ?
[19:24] <OerHeks> mablae, " sudo echo "manual" >> /etc/init/mysql.override  " should do the trick
[19:24] <mablae> TJ, will check
[19:25] <TJ-> OerHeks: that command won't work... the pipe is executed with user permissions, not sudo
[19:25] <TJ-> OerHeks: mablae better to do "echo "manual" | sudo tee -a /etc/init/mysql.override  "
[19:26] <mablae> TJ-, it isnt symlinked... Maybe /etc/init.d/ is just a leftover?
[19:26] <TJ-> mablae: what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:26] <mablae> OerHeks, Yeah, disabling the upstart isnt the problem
[19:26] <mablae> I was getting confused by the TWO init scripts
[19:27] <cliff777> I'm trying to install packages such as git or java on ubuntu 13.10, and am getting 404 errors when I update apt-get...how can I remove these bad sources and/or add better ones?
[19:27] <mablae> The maschine is running 14.04 but was upgraded everytime (initially installed with 8.04)
[19:27] <TJ-> mablae: on 12.04 "/etc/init.d/mysql" is a symbolic link: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Apr 20 20:26 /etc/init.d/mysql -> /lib/init/upstart-job
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> cliff777  it's because 13.10 is !eol, no longer available
[19:27] <mablae> Maybe I could just remove the init.d/mysql and symlink it?
[19:27] <TJ-> mablae: yeah, could be a left-over
[19:28] <mablae> I need more background knowledge on this init stuff... :/
[19:28] <cliff777> MonkeyDust: it was the newest version offered by my hosting company, should I choose an older version?
[19:28] <mablae> Why is the symlink even needed?
[19:28] <iamanidiot> I had an accident with this "find / -name = ".DS_Store" -depth -exec rm {} \;" in crontab and now it's run the server seems digitally 'lighter' than it was before if you get my gist. The '=' shouldnt be there... what can I do?
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> cliff777  type /topic to find out which versions are supported
[19:28] <TJ-> mablae: to provide an upgrade path for older tools
[19:28] <mablae> I am running some upstart jobs without a symlink in /etc/init.d successfully?
[19:29] <mablae> TJ-, Makes sense, thx
[19:29] <mablae> TJ-, apache2 still doesn't use upstart right?
[19:29] <mablae> so old update-rc.d here to remove it?
[19:37] <BrendanTA> I'm trying to connect to my mysql server on ubuntu over workbench, however the port does not seem to be open using canyouseeme, how can I portforward the mysql server?
[19:37] <stiv2k> hi, for some reason my computer will not enter suspend mode when screen is locked. for example, it locks screen after 10 minutes idle. if i set it to suspend after 5 minutes idle, it works, because screen has not locked yet. but, if i set to suspend after 1 hour idle (what i really want), it never suspends, because screen locks after 10 minutes, then inhibits suspend forever until unlocked. any advice is appreciated, thanks
[19:37] <stiv2k> hi, for some reason my computer will not enter suspend mode when screen is locked. for example, it locks screen after 10 minutes idle. if i set it to suspend after 5 minutes idle, it works, because screen has not locked yet. but, if i set to suspend after 1 hour idle (what i really want), it never suspends, because screen locks after 10 minutes, then inhibits suspend forever until unlocked. any advice is appreciated, thanks
[19:37] <stiv2k> sorry
[19:37] <stiv2k> gnome terminal is really wonky too
[19:37] <stiv2k> like i cant press alt-left or alt-right to change my irssi windows
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> stiv2k  alt left/right works in irssi, here
[19:42] <rebootloop> hi can someone help me?
[19:42] <rebootloop> i bought a linux vps and i connect to it with the web console
[19:43] <rebootloop> every time it says *** System restart required ***
[19:43] <rebootloop> i have restarted my computer about 8 times
[19:44] <bekks> rebootloop: which "webconsole"?
[19:44] <rebootloop> the one on the server company's website
[19:45] <bekks> rebootloop: which "webconsole"?
[19:45] <bekks> rebootloop: By default, there is none on Ubuntu.
[19:45] <rebootloop> it's like a terminal on the server, but it's on a webpage
[19:46] <rebootloop> its digital ocean
[19:46] <bekks> rebootloop: Just use ssh instead.
[19:46] <rebootloop> will that make the message go away?
[19:46] <bekks> rebootloop: We'll see.
[19:47] <rebootloop> i did try with putty originally, but the web console was nicer. the message was there on both
[19:47] <bekks> rebootloop: So investigate the logs to see what happened.
[19:48] <rebootloop> if I knew how to do that, I wouldn't be here
[19:49] <rebootloop> do I have to be using linux to be able to connect properly?
[19:49] <ioria> rebootloop, try /var/log/auth.log
[19:49] <rebootloop> on my computer or on the server?
[19:50] <bekks> rebootloop: On the server, of course.
[19:50] <bekks> rebootloop: Take a look at the logs in /var/log/
[19:51] <ioria> rebootloop,  something like  grep 'sshd' /var/log/auth.log
[19:51] <ioria> rebootloop,  or   grep 'ssh' /var/log/auth.log
[19:51] <bekks> ioria: how will that help him to see of the machine rebooted?
[19:52] <rebootloop> un 21 19:23:10 server sshd[18994]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for ool-60396715.static.optonline.net [96.57.103.21] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
[19:53] <rebootloop> Jun 21 19:23:10 server sshd[18994]: Invalid user test from 96.57.103.21
[19:53] <rebootloop> Jun 21 19:23:10 server sshd[18994]: input_userauth_request: invalid user test [preauth]
[19:53] <rebootloop> Jun 21 19:23:10 server sshd[18994]: Received disconnect from 96.57.103.21: 11: Bye Bye [preauth]
[19:55] <ioria> wow
[19:58] <atlaspaine> Hey, please assist. Ubuntu isn't allowing me to upgrade.
[19:58] <di_giorgio>  Mp3player [Akcent feat. Meriem - Dilemma (Refill & Woolhouse Remix)] CeBoLiNhA 2015 
[19:59] <atlaspaine> I have had errors for the past month.
[19:59] <atlaspaine> How dod I remove unmet dependencies?
[19:59] <zykotick9> atlaspaine: you might want to start with "sudo apt-get -f install" and see what it wants to do...  good luck
[20:00] <k1l> atlaspaine: put the output into a pastebin and show the link here
[20:05] <cablop> hello
[20:06] <cablop> first question: how do i set the home path for future users? we want to change the /home/<username> to /drive2/home/<username>
[20:07] <SchrodingersScat> cablop: man adduser #?
[20:08] <zykotick9> cablop: you might want to see "/msg ubottu movehome" perhaps?  or specify it when creating all new users...
[20:09] <cablop> SchrodingersScat: ah, ok, that works, but only when manually done, i want for it to be automatic; i or someone else creates a uiser using the ubuntu ui and the user gets its directory there
[20:09] <SchrodingersScat> cablop: which also directs you to /etc/adduser.conf
[20:09] <SchrodingersScat> k, not sure what that uses
[20:15] <cablop> second question: how can i change the home dir of an existing user?
[20:16] <al2o3-cr> cablop: take a look at usermod
[20:18] <cablop> usermod... hmm, ok, thanks
[20:19] <al2o3-cr> cablop: something like usermod -d /path/to/new/home <user>
[20:22] <gagalicious> i have a situation with pxeboot. (i managed to get it working after 3 days...) my situation is... i need to have multiple copies of the same nfsroot because i need to identify each client by it's own hostname... (or how do i make each client have it's own host name?) i do hope that all my pxe clients can share the same one nfsroot but not their workspaces. meaning i would like to know which folders i can set read only for a pxe di
[20:22] <gagalicious> i will symlink those folders to each instances separately
[20:23] <bekks> gagalicious: Serve the same nfsroot, and different user homes.
[20:24] <gagalicious> bekks : i need different hostname for each pxe clients.
[20:24] <gagalicious> how do i do that?
[20:24] <gagalicious> each client must have it's own hostname
[20:24] <bekks> gagalicious: Service it using your DHCP server.
[20:25] <gagalicious> i can assign hostname through my dhcp server?
[20:25] <gagalicious> how do i do that? :I
[20:26] <bekks> gagalicious: Create a reservation for a specific MAC address.
[20:26] <vlt> gagalicious: Or put something into /etc/rc.local that creates a hostname based on the IP address. LTSP does something like that.
[20:27] <gagalicious> hmmm... ok wondering which is easier to maintain now...
[20:28] <bekks> gagalicious: the DHCP server.
[20:28] <ozbrk> hi guys there is a strange dpkg lock issue terminls keep me saying that I am root. I tried sudo dpkg --configure -a command andnothing happened any sugestions ?
[20:29] <bekks> ozbrk: What does it tell you exactly?
[20:30] <gagalicious> one more question... i would like to allow all my pxeclients to have root access individually. instead of having too many "multiple copies of the os"... i would like to save some diskspace. last time i did 8 pxe clients having their own nfsroot.. my question is thus... which files are not modified and shareable as nfsroot so i can symlink those folders? does anyone know?
[20:30] <ozbrk> E: Kilit dosyası /var/lib/dpkg/lock açılamadı - open (13: Erişim engellendi) E: Yönetim dizini (/var/lib/dpkg/) kilitlenemiyor, root kullanıcısı mısınız? (Translation: Lock file (file) could not be opened  (13: acces denied) E: (/var/lib/dpkg/) couldn't be locked are you in superuser mode root) ? ?
[20:30] <zykotick9> !aptlock | ozbrk
[20:31] <k1l> ozbrk: what command did you use exactly?
[20:31] <ozbrk> again nothing pronted to sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a command and it is still not working
[20:32] <ozbrk> kill: dunno last thing I rememberd I tried to install adobe photoshop here yet it couldn't installed because of an unknown ptrogram issue
[20:33] <gagalicious> great job guys on ubuntu 14.04 ... it's great! i cant say how satisfied i am with it... all i can say is... let's just forget about 15 and 16 and 99s... let's stick with 14.04 ok? :D thanks
[20:33] <bekks> gagalicious: Keep one nfsroot image, and serve the userhomes via nfs, too.
[20:34] <ozbrk> by the way yes ubuntu 15 is greate I have no screen tearing or other issues google chrome rendering pages correctly and evert thing is fine except the bass and that dpkg issue.
[20:34] <gagalicious> bekks : i need all of them having root access... i would like them to use root access but i dont want them to mess up root for every pxe client. which folders should i do read only? or can i just do read only to the system files?
[20:34] <ozbrk> I wish there is a powerful photo editing tool. GIMP is not enough for you if you are a photographer :(
[20:35] <bekks> gagalicious: Either you grant them root access, or you dont want them to mess up the image for all of them.
[20:35] <bekks> gagalicious: And serving an actual image, doesnt harm the original.
[20:35] <ozbrk> strange
[20:36] <ozbrk> I just tried  sudo su and it worked
[20:36] <bekks> ozbrk: Dont use sudo su, use sudo -i or sudo -s instead
[20:37] <ozbrk> bekks: just testing a theory how I could get the root privilages if the dpkg is locked ?
[20:37] <mablae> bekks, Could you explain further ?
[20:37] <gagalicious> granting root access... to all pxeclients... is that wise?
[20:37] <gagalicious> with just one image i mean... which i cant do read only
[20:37] <ozbrk> bekks: Besides apt-update is working under thesudo su
[20:37] <gagalicious> i thought i can do read only on nfs mounts
[20:38] <bekks> ozbrk: sudo su is a bad idea, use sudo -i or sudo -s instead
[20:38] <bekks> gagalicious: granting root access to clients is not wise, no.
[20:38] <k1l> ozbrk: mablae sudo su sets the wrong env. so use the sudi -i or sudo -s. else dont complain about stuff crashing or not working
[20:38] <ozbrk> bekks: can you explain why and what is the diference
[20:38] <gagalicious> how do i speed up nfs? there's a nfs file caching right? i'm using nfs4... how do i configure it?
[20:38] <k1l> !sudo | ozbrk
[20:38] <bekks> ozbrk: The difference is the wrong environemnt which is used by sudo su
[20:39] <ozbrk> giving root privilages to a root folder lol yes that seems a bad idea
[20:39] <gagalicious> i need to run a particular command for all my clients that must use root...
[20:39] <bekks> gagalicious: Use sudo then.
[20:39] <gagalicious> but i dont want them to run additional commands. just 1 command
[20:39] <bekks> gagalicious: Configure sudo accordingly.
[20:40] <gagalicious> bekks : i see. yeah... tradeoffs. thanks. good idea.
[20:40] <gagalicious> how often does ubuntu 14.04 break for u guys ? and where does it break mostly? i'll avoid that application. i'm installing all my pxe client's software now...
[20:40] <gagalicious> starting with wine :)
[20:41] <gagalicious> wine download is very long
[20:41] <bekks> gagalicious: I'll avoid wine.
[20:41] <gagalicious> bekks : no choice. i need microsoft office ...
[20:41] <OerHeks>  <gagalicious> how often does ubuntu 14.04 break for u guys ? never ?
[20:41] <bekks> gagalicious: USe a virtual machine instead.
[20:42] <gagalicious> OerHeks: not the server version i mean... i'm using desktop version. i'm sure some applications will break
[20:42] <gier_do> gagalicious: sometimes I break it. then I fix it again.
[20:42] <gagalicious> bekks: vm is too slow... :I wine
[20:42] <gagalicious> gier_do: ok.
[20:42] <bekks> gagalicious: Use reasonable hardware then.
[20:43] <OerHeks> I considder that as FUD
[20:44] <gagalicious> pxeclients... do you guys have a guide on how to speed it up? it's over a gigabitlan... i understand the server side needs ssd etc... but that's about all the limits u can stretch with pxe clients... anything i can tweak more? where's a good guide for this? i've finished reading the diskless ubuntu installation guide
[20:44] <bekks> gagalicious: Use a fast network. Use clients with enough RAM.
[20:44] <bekks> gagalicious: Use a server capable of serving all your clients.
[20:44] <gagalicious> each client have 4gb ram. i wonder how does it use the network...
[20:44] <ozbrk> since I can't get the photoshop cc work maybe I can get the cs6 they all photohop atthe end I would buy a MAC if I care that much O.o
[20:45] <stiv2k> MonkeyDust: do you use gnome-terminal
[20:45] <linuxr> hi all. I have a question about ubuntu/debian package management: how is the integrity ensured when updating packages?
[20:45] <stiv2k> MonkeyDust: do you use bybou
[20:45] <stiv2k> byobu
[20:45] <bekks> linuxr: By using checksums.
[20:45] <gagalicious> i mean... i was thinking of slurping the os into memory for my pxeclient and using only the nfs root for saving persistent things.
[20:45] <k1l> ozbrk: when the software is not native for linux see wine. for issues with wine see #winehq and their database
[20:46] <ozbrk> #winehq noted thank you mate
[20:46] <linuxr> bekks, I mean, is it ensured that no "man in the middle" can provide modified packages and checksums?
[20:46] <sgoblin> linuxr: uses gpg keys
[20:47] <k1l> linuxr: iirc packages are signed
[20:47] <bekks> linuxr: You cannot ensure that, technically. Having enough money, it is technically possible.
[20:47] <bekks> linuxr: But chances are very good, that the existing signing mechanism are sufficient.
[20:48] <zykotick9> bekks: if you check "apt-cache depends apt" you'll also notice gnupg being listed...  *-keyring also possibly?  more then just checksums.
[20:48] <sgoblin> linuxr: you can find the keys in Software and Updates, Authentication
[20:49] <sgoblin> Software and Updates is in software-properties-gtk package
[20:50] <linuxr> sgoblin, bekks , so each package is download is signed and checked against a locally cached key before installation?
[20:50] <JinjaNinja> Any reason why my computer volume is all the way up, but Ardour volume isn't responsive to my computer's volume? For instance, I put my computer's master volume on mute, but Ardour isn't effected by it. Is this possibly a groups issue? Or is this just a pulseaudio issue?
[20:53] <sgoblin> linuxr: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt explains it
[20:54] <sgoblin> the Release file has checksums, and is signed by the Release.gpg file
[20:55] <sgoblin> Packages are checksumed against the Release file, which is sure to be authentic
[20:55] <TJ-> To be pedantically technical, Release contains (cryptographic) hashes not checksums
[20:55] <sgoblin> ok, thanks
[20:56] <linuxr> thanks sgoblin ... I'm having a look at this
[20:56] <linuxr> where does the public key come from which is used to verify the signature?
[20:57] <TJ-> linuxr: It's stored in /etc/apt/trust.gpg and related files
[20:57] <sgoblin> it is shipped with the release
[20:57] <linuxr> thanks TJ- , sgoblin ... seems solid to me
[20:58] <linuxr> for a second I feared there would not be any such mechanism
[20:58] <Starthunder> My laptop seems to have two volume settings: off, and quiet.
[20:59] <Starthunder> It mutes fine, but changing the volume doesn't noticably...change the volume.
[20:59] <Starthunder> The music in this game doesn't sound any louder, nor does the actual little sound effects it makes when you press the volume keys
[21:00] <Bashing-om> !sound | Starthunder
[21:03] <Starthunder> ...that was really odd. Even just using the slider in Sound Preferences once seems to have fixed it. Thanks, Bashing-om.
[21:04] <Bashing-om> Starthunder: Good deal. No thanks to me though. It be the peeps who maintain our bots !
[21:05] <Starthunder> Eh, well, you invoked the factoid command for me. I hadn't thought to try that.
[21:09] <mekhami> so using the default ubuntu terminal, whenever i start it up it's using the wrong color scheme. i have to go into preferences, unselect and reselect 'use colors from system theme' and then the right colors kick in
[21:09] <mekhami> it's just annoying but if there's an obvious fix i'd like to know
[21:14] <Ankhwatcher> Hi, how can I determine my system.hardware.product for using in pm-utils/video-quirks?
[21:14] <Ankhwatcher> trying to implement this fix on my dell: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=99447
[21:14] <gagalicious> is there a program that can message a user on a ubuntu network? i'm using 14.04... like a notify or message a host or ip or something similar
[21:17] <dw1> so ive got a netbook with a super slow ssd. any advice for running chromium and other app caches and stuff in ram
[21:18]  * dw1 googles
[21:18] <adam__> ramfs?
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> dw1  try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753013/
[21:18] <dw1> ye
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> dw1  more: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753017/
[21:19] <dw1> my tmp is already on tmpfs so cool
[21:20] <zykotick9> dw1: "super slow ssd" <- perhaps your partition(s) are not aligned correctly.  as "slow" and "ssd" should not typically be in the same sentence.
[21:20] <dw1> i figure it's because it's an older type and it's done too many writes
[21:20] <dw1> comp just feels sluggish
[21:20] <dw1> it's a weak old asus one netbook with lubuntu
[21:20] <dw1> 1g ram 600mb free tho
[21:21] <adam__> vmstat -SM 1 5   please. we can look closer at what may be slowing it down
[21:22] <zykotick9> adam__: neat, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753029/
[21:22] <dw1> adam__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753030/
[21:22] <dw1> hehe
[21:23] <adam__> first one looks healthy, but that second one needs more memory
[21:24] <zykotick9> dw1: we certainly get different results... but i'm not sure which one is better ;)
[21:24] <adam__> we can get an idea of the sdd's performance with   hdparm -T /dev/whichever
[21:26] <dw1> > Timing cached reads:   1170 MB in  2.00 seconds = 584.87 MB/sec
[21:26] <dw1> maybe it's not the drive :/
[21:26] <zykotick9> dw1: for comparison, Timing cached reads:   3786 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1894.71 MB/sec
[21:27] <rebs> how would I go about getting gcc5 instead of my currrent 4.9
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> !info gcc
[21:27] <dw1> yea i think it's like the first ssd model that doesnt trim properly etc which is why i assumed the drive
[21:27] <adam__>  Timing cached reads:   1440 MB in  2.00 seconds = 720.12 MB/sec    here, on a system with known i/o performance issues
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> rebs  for anything that newer than what's in the repos, you need a ppa or a .deb or so, but that's not supported here
[21:28] <rebs> ok thanks MonkeyDust
[21:28] <mekhami> so using the default ubuntu terminal, whenever i start it up it's using the wrong color scheme. i have to go into preferences, unselect and reselect 'use colors from system theme' and then the right colors kick in
[21:28] <dw1> like creating a new tab in chrome and typing in the address bar afterward is very lagged to the point the letters dont go in the order typed
[21:29] <dw1> maybe cpu bound
[21:29] <dw1> if i wait 5 secs i can type normal
[21:29] <adam__> run that vmstat command while doing a new tab and we can verify which is the bottleneck
[21:30] <adam__> if you need more time,  vmstat -SM 1 10
[21:30] <adam__> or just  vmstat -SM 1     to run until you stop it
[21:30] <bekks> adam__: cached timing reads can be disregarded, unless you want to know how fast your cache is :)
[21:31] <dw1> adam__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753051/
[21:31] <dw1> 2 laggy tabs opened
[21:32] <adam__> that definitely looks cpu bound, and those context switches skyrocketed
[21:32] <adam__> chrome have a lot of extensions?
[21:32] <dw1> i may be running zram
[21:33] <Viking667> hi all.
[21:33] <Bashing-om> rebs: Build from source ? see: https://gcc.gnu.org/install/ .
[21:33] <Viking667> I've got a quick query. How would I display kernel log messages to another tty, such as tty12?
[21:34]  * dw1 removes  zram-config and reboots 
[21:37] <adam__> Viking667,  check out  sysctl -a | grep printk
[21:37] <adam__> changing that value should do what you're looking for
[21:37] <Viking667> I'll do that, thanks.
[21:38] <Viking667> oh.
[21:39] <dw1> still laggy, no extensions. it's a super low power cpu so it's not surprising
[21:39] <Viking667> I get kernel.printk = 15 4 1 7  ..... what man page do I go to for that??
[21:40] <adam__> i actually couldn't find a man page, but i did find this   https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt
[21:40]  * dw1 checks the stats again
[21:40] <adam__> dw1, i wonder if putting  ~/.cache/  into a smaller ramfs would work
[21:40] <adam__> but yeah, when resources are low there's only so much you can do
[21:41] <adam__> maybe plug in a usb flash drive and mount it as a swap, tmpfs or similar
[21:41] <Viking667> adam__: thanks.
[21:41] <adam__> happy to help
[21:42] <dw1> 3192 bogomips ought to be enough for anybody
[21:42] <adam__> lol
[21:42] <Viking667> um. Then that's not what I need. Sigh.
[21:43] <adam__> arg. alright, still looking
[21:43] <dw1> dual-core too :o
[21:43] <Viking667> those seem to describe what log levels various messages get assigned.
[21:43] <Viking667> I'll check out syslog's manpage too.
[21:44] <Viking667> hm. what's replaced syslogd these days? It's been quite some time.
[21:45] <Viking667> is that all done by sysctl and brethren these days?
[21:45] <adam__> systemd is fighting for it, so it's kinda both atm
[21:45] <adam__> i think systemd routes through syslog to maintain backwards comp
[21:45] <Viking667> the laugh is, I don't appear to have a syslogd here, so no fighting.
[21:46] <adam__> man dmesg    check the -E flag. i wonder if you run that in the tty of your choice it would lock to it
[21:48] <adam__> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/configure-kernel.html    perhaps a kernel parameter at boot would be a better solution
[21:48] <Viking667> Or perhaps a tail of /proc/kmsg (or similar file)
[21:48] <hplc> is the "aide" error message at start a bug or a user mistake?
[21:48] <hplc> it seems to have been there for 2-3 ubuntu releases
[21:49] <Viking667> "aide", that's french for "Help!!!"
[21:49] <Viking667> no idea what relevance it has
[21:49] <hplc> ok
[21:49] <hplc> well "help" works for me too
[21:50] <hplc> but "help" tend to get exactly [Zero] helpful answers :S
[21:50] <Viking667> I know. that's why I said I've no idea what relevance it has. What's bleating?
[21:50] <hplc> im not native english, whats "bleating"?
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> hplc  it's the sound of a lamb, like "mèèèh"
[21:51] <hplc> aha
[21:52] <hplc> that makes me a méééé that need aide! :p :D
[21:53] <hplc> seriously, aide soesnt run proplerly despite using the init, and some claims it has to to with that it needs its first AT/Cron run, but can i force that run?
[21:54]  * Viking667 blinks, wait. You're asking about a program called aide??
[21:54] <hplc> yes?
[21:54] <Viking667> ahhh.
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> !info aide
[21:54] <Viking667> hm. I don't have that installed here.
[21:54] <hplc> the Advanced Intrusion Detection E...eeee something
[21:55] <Viking667> I wondered why it sounded familiar.
[21:55] <hplc> "Environment", i knew it
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> apt-cache show aide to learn more
[21:56] <Ubyte> hi .. can anyone help me with ssh/scp file transfer from mac to my virtual machine?
[21:56] <Viking667> ah wel, I'll go bang my head against other walls then.
[21:56] <Ubyte> @.@
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Ubyte
[21:57] <Ubyte> any kind soul?
[21:57] <Viking667> Merci, danke, domo arigato, fa'afetai...
[21:57] <adam__> Ubyte, scp remoteusername:/path/to/remote/files/ /path/to/local/files/
[21:57] <adam__> if the connection isn't keyed, it'll ask for a password
[21:58] <adam__> oops, i mean    scp remoteusername@remotehost:/path/to/remote/files/ /path/to/local/files/
[21:58] <adam__> reverse the last two params to push instead of pull
[21:59] <Ubyte> hi .. can anyone help me with ssh/scp file transfer from mac to my virtual machine?  .. SSH problem - Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[21:59] <Viking667> Ubyte: first, is the remote machine configured to accept ssh connections?
[21:59] <hplc> MonkeyDust, there is no such thing as "apt-show" its either "apt-show-source" or "apt-show-versions" :p
[21:59] <Ubyte> viking how do i do that?
[22:00] <adam__> install openssh-server, and ensure the firewall isn't blocking port 22
[22:00] <Viking667> Ubyte: well, is the remote machine sitting next to you?
[22:00] <Viking667> and yes, adam's correct.
[22:00] <adam__> a virtual machine may need the network configured a bit differently though
[22:00] <Ubyte> ya
[22:01] <Viking667> then check if the virtual machine has openssh-server installed.
[22:01] <Viking667> I can't quite remember how to connect into a virtual machine.
[22:02] <adam__> it should be a 10.  ip address, depending on the VM software being used
[22:02] <Viking667> lol. That's MY ip address range...
[22:02] <Viking667> it's private. you can't have it...muahahahaha.
[22:02] <adam__> sharing is caring
[22:03] <Viking667> and I don't have "apt-show-*" here. I'm still on Trusty, if that means anything.
[22:04] <Pici> Viking667: it was "apt-cache" show packagename not "apt-show"
[22:04] <Viking667> yes, so I realised.
[22:04] <Ubyte> okayy... how do icheck if the ssh server is configure? haha
[22:05] <Viking667> Ubyte: in the vm, check if there's a service running on port 22.
[22:05] <adam__> on the box in question, check if the port is being used    ss -al src :22
[22:05]  * Viking667 blinks. Where'd THAT tool come from?
[22:06] <adam__> it's supposedly the next netstat
[22:06] <Ubyte> ss-al src :22 ?
[22:06] <adam__> i've been trying to use it more. it does seem really powerfull
[22:06] <adam__> ss  -al src :22
[22:06] <adam__> -al  is the first params, (show all listening ports)
[22:08] <Ubyte> 0   128       :::ssh              :::*
[22:08] <Ubyte> got 2 of those
[22:09] <adam__> it's running, then. i guess an easier test (just tried this one myself) is to ssh into itself:   ssh localhost
[22:09] <adam__> but i think the issue is getting the VM to network with the host
[22:10] <TJ-> Viking can the host ping the guest and the guest ping the host?
[22:11] <joe11joe99> hi
[22:11] <joe11joe99> what is this one about
[22:12] <Ubyte> so ... what do i need to do?
[22:12] <TJ-> Ubyte:  can the host ping the guest and the guest ping the host?
[22:12] <joe11joe99> lol im on the raspberry pi version
[22:12] <adam__> unfortunately when i've tried this myself i always end up fumbling aroudn with the guest container network settings until it works. i'm not great with networking, unfortunately
[22:13] <adam__> but yeah you gotta get the machines pinging each other first thing
[22:13] <adam__> then it should just work
[22:13] <TJ-> Ubyte: what virtual machine hypervisor are you using?
[22:13] <adam__> joe11joe99, what is what one about? this room? i'd say ubuntu. haha
[22:13] <adam__> i see how it is
[22:14] <Ubyte> ya can ping from both end
[22:14] <adam__> what about:  telnet destinationip 22
[22:14] <TJ-> Ubyte: OK, so on the guest first, check the firewall rules aren't blocking port 22 inbound. "sudo iptables -nvL INPUT"
[22:15] <Ubyte> connected
[22:16] <TJ-> Ubyte: do you see a rule for destination port 22 ?
[22:16] <zakedodead> Hi, I have a mouse with a high dpi and it is ridiculously high sensitivity even on the lowest settings under system settings -> mouse&touchpad, is there any way to go lower than what's in there?
[22:17] <TooFast4U> hey gyts
[22:17] <Ubyte> seems like it can be connected
[22:17] <TooFast4U> quicck question , when installing ubuntu what file system should i format ?
[22:18] <TJ-> TooFast4U: Depends on what criteria you have; default is ext4
[22:18] <adam__> zakedodead, i'm looking aroudn. what distro and what DM?
[22:18] <Bashing-om> TooFast4U: The standard/default is ext4 .
[22:18] <zakedodead> adam_: 14.04 with cinnamon installed
[22:18] <TooFast4U> tj can you explian. im not ecxperianced with linux
[22:19] <adam__> TooFast4U,  go with ext4 then. no need to get fancy
[22:19] <adam__> yet
[22:19] <TJ-> TooFast4U: ext4 is extended file system version 4, the default in-kernel file-system for most conventional systems
[22:19] <TooFast4U> k thx
[22:19] <hplc> is there any significant difference in speed between the filesystems?
[22:20] <adam__> depends on the use
[22:20] <TooFast4U> whats the mount point ?
[22:20] <adam__> i know xfs does great for deleting large files
[22:20] <hplc> does reiser still exists after creator became iron-man?
[22:20] <Bashing-om> TooFast4U: '/' ( for root ) .
[22:21] <TJ-> TooFast4U: if you're not familiar with the Linux file-system organisation I'd suggest using the installer's Guided Partitioning
[22:21] <TooFast4U> TJ why . i dont understand
[22:21] <Ubyte> scp -r /Users/Ubyte/Downloads/READ.ME.\!\!.txt root@192.168.77.128:home/Desktop  <-- tried this...
[22:22] <TJ-> TooFast4U: that's why :)
[22:22] <TooFast4U> whats why ?
[22:22] <TooFast4U> link ?
[22:23] <adam__> hplc, haha! it has to still be around, but may have been abandoned
[22:23] <TooFast4U> ttj ?
[22:23] <Ubyte> tj ? adam?
[22:23] <TooFast4U> noy tried the readme. how do iaccess it ?
[22:24] <adam__> TooFast4U, because you have to ask. it's nothing personal, but if you are asking these questions you have much to learn still. so go with the defaults, don't worry much about the options until after you've played around more
[22:24] <TooFast4U> ohh ok
[22:24] <hplc> adam__, i suppose he killed the wrong "process"
[22:24] <adam__> using the guided install will get you learning easily and quickly
[22:26] <adam__> i suppose it'd be hard to fight bad guys while getting the pid correct
[22:28] <stiv2k> hi, for some reason my gnome terminal is overriding the alt-left and alt-right behavior, it is registering as F3 and F4 in byobu, thus making it hard for me to switch between rooms in irssi
[22:29] <adam__> stiv2k, check global keyboard shortcuts
[22:30] <adam__> going off topic for a moment, i was looking around at the recent images of the sun and noticed a massive flash ( 2015-05-26 13:00 )  http://gif-explode.com/?explode=http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_eit_171small.gif
[22:30] <stiv2k> adam__: i dont see any mappings there for alt-left or alt-right
[22:30] <adam__> any ideas? space people here at all?
[22:30] <adam__> stiv2k, alright, lemme poke around
[22:30] <zakedodead> I found a driver for my mouse (razercfg) but I'm too noob to build it
[22:31] <zakedodead> when I try to invoke cmake for it I get    Could not find library "libusb-1.0" with header libusb.h
[22:31] <adam__> zakedodead, it shouldn't take a compilation to fix this, luckily. is it a gaming mouse? those tend to be more sensitive by nature
[22:31] <zakedodead> despite having already apt-get installed it
[22:31] <zakedodead> yeah
[22:31] <zakedodead> razer
[22:32] <zakedodead> adam_ I'm trying to install razercfg
[22:32] <adam__> https://patrickmn.com/aside/lowering-gaming-mouse-sensitivity-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[22:32] <adam__> it's an older ubuntu, but the principle should be the same
[22:33] <Viking667> ahhhhhh...... it seems that systemd has a logging component already, called journal.
[22:33] <OerHeks> zakedodead, maybe this page is any help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2197601 sudo apt-get install libusb-1.0-0-dev
[22:34] <Viking667> zakedodead: lol. I have logitech instead of razer. easier to configure.
[22:35] <zakedodead> aparently my mouse is a "Razer Razer DeathAdder" according to xinput
[22:35] <cm-t> TJ-: I'm back !
[22:36] <Viking667> zakedodead: is it a DeathAdder?
[22:37] <zakedodead> yeah
[22:38] <zakedodead> Never gonna get used to typing peoples names in front of what I'm saying and being considerate
[22:39] <Viking667> zakedodead: heh. I'm lucky. I just type the first two letters of their name, hit tab, and see if tabcomplete gets the name right.
[22:39] <SchrodingersScat> !tab | zakedodead, tab makes it easy
[22:39] <zakedodead> ubottu, oh ok
[22:39] <Viking667> SchrodingersScat: don't forget, that's dependent upon support within the client
[22:40] <Viking667> and ubottu's just a bot.
[22:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[22:40] <zakedodead> thanks bot
[22:40] <SchrodingersScat> Viking667: it's always worth a shot to mash tab a few times though
[22:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> i really really need some help
[22:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i just built a new computer
[22:40] <Viking667> don't ask for help, just ask yourquestion
[22:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> lol i forgot how harsh irc is
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> Waldeinsamkeit  then quickly quickly tell us what's wrong
[22:40] <Malgorath> lol this mdadm command is taken 5.5 hours so far on my raid 10 to build...
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> my computer is runing 13.10 i belive
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> and i need to upgrade it
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> yet i can not becuase its unsuuported
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> i cahnged cpus
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> Waldeinsamkeit  that's !eol, upgrade first, then come back
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> not sure how
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have been trying all day...
[22:41] <kostkon> !eol | Waldeinsamkeit
[22:41] <TooFast4U> guys how much swap space should i define ?
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> thats my problem
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | Waldeinsamkeit
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes its end of the line for this os
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> hence i need a new one
[22:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> and i can not upgrade...
[22:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> i do not know how
[22:42] <Malgorath> Waldeinsamkeit did you even look at the link for EOLUpgardes?
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> Waldeinsamkeit  backup and fresh install is fastes, easiest, cleanest
[22:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> any advice on updateing to the latest version of ubontu with out losing my data would be amazing
[22:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[22:42] <kostkon> Waldeinsamkeit, it's one step upgrade to 14.04 which is an lts and thus support for 5 years, that is until 2019
[22:42] <kostkon> supported*
[22:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> pl
[22:42] <cm-t> TJ-: I rebooted in safemode at grub, it asked me to reconfigur the graphic, choosed default setings, now reworking without any CLI :D ubuntu !
[22:43] <TooFast4U> when installing ubuuntu i have to creat a partition for swap space ! how large should i make this ?
[22:43] <kostkon> Waldeinsamkeit, you only need to go from 13.10 to 14.04, otherwise just backup your data and do a clean install of 14.04
[22:43] <adam__> TooFast4U, generally the same as your total physical memory amount. the installer should do that automatically
[22:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have installed the the update-manager and update-manager-core packages
[22:44] <adam__> and chill out, man. i'm playing FF7 over here. jenova battle requires attention
[22:44] <Viking667> TooFast4U: It used to be twice your RAM, that's not quite the case any more. I'd say start with 2Gb, and see what others here say.
[22:44] <Malgorath> TooFast4U depends on your amount of RAM, usually if you have 16GB of ram, you make a 16GB swap, but 4G is usually enough for most average users
[22:44] <TooFast4U> adam so if i have 1dg ram then 1gb of swap space ?
[22:44] <kostkon> Waldeinsamkeit, have you already tried following the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades and failed
[22:44] <adam__> if you only have 1g ram, i'd do 2g swap
[22:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah
[22:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> im doing it again
[22:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill tell you the error message i get
[22:45] <kostkon> Waldeinsamkeit, ok
[22:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo apt-get update
[22:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:45] <Malgorath> TooFast4U are you going to be using any desktops?
[22:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> when i do that
[22:45] <Malgorath> !paste
[22:45] <TooFast4U> i will give it 4gb as its old laptop
[22:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have 8gb
[22:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> but 16 is better
[22:46] <stiv2k> hi, for some reason my computer will not enter suspend mode when screen is locked. for example, it locks screen after 10 minutes idle. if i set it to suspend after 5 minutes idle, it works, because screen has not locked yet. but, if i set to suspend after 1 hour idle (what i really want), it never suspends, because screen locks after 10 minutes, then inhibits suspend forever until unlocked. any advice is appreciated, thanks
[22:46]  * Viking667 drops out
[22:46] <Malgorath> Turn off screen lock :B
[22:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> Calculating the changes
[22:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> Could not calculate the upgrade
[22:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[22:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> This can be caused by:
[22:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[22:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
[22:47] <kostkon> Waldeinsamkeit, try pasting it on paste.ubuntu.com
[22:48] <Waldeinsamkeit> here is what i get
[22:48] <Waldeinsamkeit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753396/
[22:49] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, your best bet would be to backup anything important and reinstall fresh
[22:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> well you see
[22:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have a lot of steam games
[22:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> and other stuff
[22:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> on my computer
[22:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> and it would take days upon days to reinstall them
[22:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> my internet connection is not super fast
[22:50] <adam__> is your /home/ partition separate from the rest of the system?
[22:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> idk
[22:50] <Malgorath> Waldeinsamkeit the enter key is not punctuation :D
[22:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> sorry
[22:50] <adam__> pastebin this command please    df -h
[22:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> im 17 now when i installed this os it was 3 years ago i was only 14...
[22:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> i still barely know anything about ubontu
[22:51] <adam__> hopefully you stuck with defaults (and that the defaults were good)
[22:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes i did.
[22:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> i think?
[22:51] <Malgorath> Waldeinsamkeit its spelled Ubuntu, as in the channel name :D
[22:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753410/
[22:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[22:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> i copy and pasted the channel name im not a good speller -_-
[22:52] <kostkon> Waldeinsamkeit, what have you done so far? Edited your sources list, installed update-manager-core and update-manager, maybe reinstalled ubuntu-desktop, installed the linux-headers pacakge? what else
[22:52] <Malgorath> Waldeinsamkeit you should really make a backup of your home directory before you do anything just incase
[22:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[22:52] <kostkon> Waldeinsamkeit, wow, yotu definitely need to free up some space
[22:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the propor way to backup?
[22:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm
[22:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have 6 more sata hds i can install
[22:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have 6 sata cables and two psus
[22:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> and i have 300-500 gb harddrives lying all over the place
[22:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i can not set up a raid array till i get my os current
[22:53] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, awesome. you'll need to plug one in, make it a big ol' partition and copy /home/  to it
[22:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> and i do not know how to make a raid array on ubontu but thats a different problem
[22:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[22:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill go plug in a harddrive
[22:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> and make a partition
[22:54] <kostkon> Waldeinsamkeit, ubuntu will on average download 600-800mb worth of packages and it will first save then in a temp folder in /
[22:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill be back when i do that
[22:54] <kostkon> Waldeinsamkeit, for the upgrade*
[22:54] <kostkon> them*
[22:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[22:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> brb
[22:55] <adam__> kostkon, the output he showed indicates a fresh reinstall is the way to go with this one
[22:55] <kostkon> adam__, that would be better, yes
[23:01] <gopar> If you make a sym link to a directory, and you edit the content inside the sym link dir, will it also update the original form the path?
[23:01] <gopar> not sure if that made sense
[23:01] <adam__> gopar, yes it will
[23:02] <gopar> adam__, sweet, thanks
[23:04] <adam__> stiv2k, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#Using_xset   may help
[23:07] <stiv2k> adam__: how?
[23:08] <adam__> i suppose we could start with pastebin the output of that first command,  xset q | grep -A 1 Pointer
[23:10] <adam__> trapped in a shinra cell, with tifa after saving her life several times and cloud still has to sleep on the floor   lol
[23:13] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[23:13] <Waldeinsamkeit> im now backing up 127 gb of data to a second harddrive
[23:14] <adam__> perfect
[23:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats in their?
[23:14] <adam__> all your files
[23:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> the file hericary makes no sense
[23:14] <adam__> you'll notice that in /home/username/.steam/  there is most of that 125G of data
[23:14] <adam__> that's where all the game files are stored
[23:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh yes
[23:15] <Waldeinsamkeit> can't find that file
[23:15] <adam__> it may be  /home/username/.Steam/
[23:15] <Waldeinsamkeit> are there hidden files?
[23:15] <Waldeinsamkeit> cause i do not see it
[23:16] <adam__> are you changing the 'username' part to be your actual user name?
[23:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah
[23:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> no
[23:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just went to the file manger
[23:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> and clicke computer
[23:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> then theres a file that says home
[23:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> then theres not me and sysop
[23:16] <bekks> 24press ctrl+h
[23:17] <bekks> without the 24 :)
[23:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah
[23:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> wtf
[23:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> that shows me all my stuff
[23:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> .gnome
[23:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> .steam
[23:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> .skype
[23:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> why did the other one only have a few things in it?
[23:17] <bekks> because you did not press ctrl+h
[23:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> mabye they were still loading?
[23:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats cntrl h do?
[23:18] <traekili> dot files dont show in defaults for file managers, it shows hidden files
[23:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> k
[23:18] <bekks> It shows "hidden" files and folders - all that stuff beginning with a dot
[23:18] <adam__> how big is that .steam directory
[23:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> ahhhh i get it
[23:18] <adam__> i want to make sure we have the right one
[23:18] <adam__> should be huhge
[23:18] <adam__> huge*
[23:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm
[23:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> it just says everything is 12.3 gb
[23:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> which is not right
[23:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> do we have a better file manger i could get?
[23:19] <mario__> Anyone know a good link for installing spotify on ubuntu?
[23:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> also whats the command to register your username again?
[23:19] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: What is "everything"?
[23:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> every folder in there
[23:19] <adam__> mario__,  https://www.spotify.com/us/download/linux/
[23:20] <Waldeinsamkeit> minecraft .kde .gnome .java .wine .skype .steam .xchat
[23:20] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: Every folder in where?
[23:20] <Waldeinsamkeit> they all say 12.3 gb...
[23:20] <mario__> Thanks Adam :)
[23:20] <Waldeinsamkeit> in drictory home
[23:20] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, can you open a terminal and pastebin the output of    cd ~; du -sch * | sort -h
[23:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> wtf
[23:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> it says its only 7.0 gb total
[23:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> yet im backing up 125+ gb of stuff
[23:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> from that folder?
[23:22] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: sum up all folders.
[23:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> cd ~; du -sch * | sort -h
[23:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh pastebin
[23:22] <bekks> So you have 7.0G in ~
[23:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> 4.0K	Music
[23:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> 4.0K	Ubuntu One
[23:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> 48K	Wallpapers
[23:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> 56K	hs_err_pid9908.log
[23:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> 100K	catalyst
[23:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> 6.6M	Mesa-10.0.0-rc1
[23:23] <Bashing-om> !paste | Waldeinsamkeit
[23:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> erm
[23:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753539/
[23:24] <adam__> that is just because it didn't look at hidden folders
[23:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes why not?
[23:24] <adam__> my bad. try this one    df -h .* | sort -h
[23:25] <zykotick9> Waldeinsamkeit: ncdu might be helpful for ya.
[23:25] <adam__> i never was clear on why  *  doesn't grab files that start with  .
[23:25] <adam__> prolly a regex thing
[23:25] <bekks> Better try: cd ~; du -sch .* * | sort -h
[23:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just get this
[23:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> /dev/sdb1       143G  125G   12G  92% /
[23:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> over and over
[23:26] <bekks> df -h .* is - not good ;)
[23:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> idk
[23:26] <adam__> oohh yeah sorry
[23:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> why we doing this?
[23:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> me lost
[23:26] <adam__> du -sch .* | sort -h
[23:26] <zykotick9> bekks: ncdu is my answer to this problem... YMMV
[23:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> that -sch .* | sort -h does not work
[23:27] <adam__> 'df' was the wrong one to use (i'm on beer four)
[23:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> ber four...
[23:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> -_-
[23:28] <adam__> hey man, this is MY dy
[23:28] <adam__> day*
[23:28] <adam__> haha
[23:28] <traekili> or ls -laS   that sorts by size, lists stuff and shows hidden files and directories
[23:28] <SchrodingersScat> adam__: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/glob#dotglob
[23:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> There was an error copying the file into /media/sysop/HP_PAVILION/home/sysop/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/downloading/730/directx_installer.
[23:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> getting some errors
[23:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill just skip them...
[23:28] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: Or you tell us the errors.
[23:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> i did
[23:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do you register your nick name??
[23:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> googles failing me
[23:29] <SchrodingersScat> !register | Waldeinsamkeit
[23:29] <adam__> SchrodingersScat, thank you! when i've sobered up i'll check that out. bookmarked for now
[23:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> thank you
[23:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> what a intersteing username
[23:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> so unique
[23:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> there we go
[23:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> now im me forever
[23:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> There was an error copying the file into /media/sysop/HP_PAVILION/home/sysop/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/downloading/730/csgo.
[23:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> im still downloading this game
[23:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> could that be it?
[23:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> whatever
[23:31] <adam__> yeah that looks like a partial downloaded file
[23:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> no choice but to skip it
[23:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[23:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> im downloding cs go
[23:32] <adam__> are the errors saying anything of disk i/o read/write errors?
[23:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> i bought the valve steam pack this summer sale
[23:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> no.
[23:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope.
[23:32] <adam__> it should be able to copy those temp files as well, so that's odd
[23:34] <shingshang> ugh, after apt-get install and restarting, ubuntu just shows black screen on the login page :(
[23:35] <adam__> shingshang, eek. can you get to a tty? what was installed?
[23:35] <shingshang> adam__: I tried to fix a broken package with aptitude, which proceeded to uninstall the nvidia-352 package
[23:35] <shingshang> I reinstalled 352 though
[23:35] <shingshang> then I restarted
[23:36] <shingshang> and now I'm here
[23:36] <shingshang> it went through the purple ubuntu splash, but login screen is all black. ctrl + alt + f4 etc doesn't seem to do anything
[23:37] <adam__> it sounds like the new driver is using a resolution the monitor doesn't like
[23:37] <adam__> so the tty's should still work, you just won't be able to see anything
[23:37] <shingshang> ah, I did plug in a new monitor to my laptop
[23:37] <zykotick9> question for ubuntu people, in most recent ubuntu (systemd based) does lightdm/gdm/*dm start on F1 or F7 like the old system?
[23:37] <shingshang> I've just unplugged it, still doesn't seem to show anything
[23:38] <adam__> zykotick9, i'm on 15.04 and my DM is on F7
[23:38] <zykotick9> adam__: thanks!
[23:38] <adam__> shingshang, does the laptop screen show anything, or is it broken so you're using only an external
[23:39] <shingshang> both showed black
[23:39] <al2o3-cr> zykotick9: yes just checked
[23:39] <shingshang> I've unplugged the external monitor and still the same thing
[23:39] <shingshang> after restart, as well
[23:39] <adam__> try doing the laptop-specific "function + display" keyboard combo
[23:39] <adam__> i know that's vague, but each laptop has their own way of doing it
[23:40] <adam__> http://www.spd.dcu.ie/site/av/images/FuncF4.jpg   this example has two of the common icons ( one here / one here )
[23:41] <adam__> try pressing it a few times, since they tend to cycle between a few options rather than just toggle
[23:41] <shingshang> thanks, will give it a try
[23:41] <ianorlin> zykotick9: it is still f7 oops wrong thing
[23:41] <ianorlin> grr typed partialy in wrong window
[23:42] <shingshang> man, from broken packages to broken drivers, ubuntu sure is hard
[23:43] <Johnny_Linux> lol, most of us started with 6.06
[23:43] <Johnny_Linux> driver mania
[23:43] <adam__> Johnny_Linux, oh man the wifi drivers alone  lol
[23:43] <Johnny_Linux> yeah
[23:43] <Johnny_Linux> distwrapper
[23:43] <Johnny_Linux> woohoo
[23:43] <Bashing-om> !ppa | shingshang No, not hard - it's the add ons ! ::
[23:45] <shingshang> great, looks like I have to go through yet another reinstall
[23:45] <Johnny_Linux> whats ppa got to do with the mans graphics, i missed it
[23:47] <Remoboth> Anyone know how I would disable my laptop's firewire port in order to prevent a memory dump attack?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Johnny_Linux: Maybe nothing.. but often times a proprietary graphics driver has been installed, That driver is built against the currently installed kernel, and whn the kernel is updatd that driver is broke .
[23:47] <Johnny_Linux> i dont remember him saying anything about it
[23:48] <Johnny_Linux> now, hes confused
[23:48] <adam__> Remoboth, i don't have anything with firewire, but you could probably get away with modprobe -r  the right driver
[23:48] <Remoboth> Hm.
[23:48] <Remoboth> Thanks.
[23:49] <TJ-> Remoboth: blacklist the iee1394 driver (firewire_ohci  and firewire_core)
[23:50] <genewitch> my mouse isn't interacting with desktop windows in ubuntu 15.04; i can't click on firefox and bring it to foreground, or right click, or move windows, resize, etc.
[23:50] <genewitch> it does interact with the menu (i.e. launch firefox or open the home menu)
[23:50] <Remoboth> TI- What would I Input in the terminal?
[23:51] <TJ-> Remoboth: that won't stop an insmod though, so if you want to protect the host remove the kernel modules from /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/firewire/
[23:51] <Remoboth> TI- By remove, you mean just delete them/
[23:52] <adam__> Remoboth, you could play it safe and rename them instead
[23:52] <TJ-> Remoboth: Yes, and see see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules#Blacklisting_Modules
[23:52] <TJ-> adam__: That won't help
[23:52] <adam__> or would it just load the renamed ones?
[23:52] <adam__> ah
[23:52] <TJ-> adam__: when depmod is run it'll rebuild the module alias caches and just point to the new name
[23:53] <TJ-> adam__: drivers are matched based on the PCI/USB/whatever device IDs they claim to support
[23:53] <adam__> so it just kinda loops through those files and does it for whatever it finds, then?
[23:53] <Remoboth> Hm.
[23:53] <Remoboth> I can't find /lib/...
[23:54] <adam__> Remoboth,  find / -xdev -maxdepth 2 -type d -name lib
[23:55] <Remoboth> adam__ -  Thanks.
[23:56] <TJ-> Remoboth: It's "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/"
[23:57] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Should I delete the whole folder or just the individual files inside?
[23:57] <Remoboth> I am sorry I am being so particular... I am new to Linux.
[23:58] <Remoboth> It seems amazing but not very intuitive to a lifelong Windows user.
[23:58] <Remoboth> Apologies.
[23:58] <TJ-> Remoboth: I'd simply move the files to a directory out of the kernel path so you can easily replace them if needed
[23:58] <genewitch> my mouse isn't interacting with desktop windows in ubuntu 15.04; i can't click on firefox and bring it to foreground, or right click, or move windows, resize, etc. it does interact with the menu (i.e. launch firefox or open the home menu)
[23:59] <logan0405> Hi I'm on a laptop with a pretty fresh ubuntu install, can't get two finger scrolling to work very well, have to have my fingers pretty far apart for it to work well. Any way to improve this?
[23:59] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Thanks.