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[00:50] <sergio-br222> what's happening with launchpad? I'm getting build/upload fails without reason
[00:52] <wgrant> MySQL is an incredibly awful database server.
[00:52] <wgrant> (Launchpad doesn't use MySQL, but some bits that Launchpad relies on use it)
[00:53] <wgrant> *Should* all be healthy now.
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[22:36] <keithzg> Is there any documentaiton beyond just https://dev.launchpad.net/Running for running one's own instance of Launchpad? Any pitfalls or pointers for me if I'm thinking of trying to run an instance of it at my company?
[22:39] <mapreri> keithzg: what's described there is how to run a *development* instance of launchpad. Not sure where there are the docs to run a production instance, though.
[22:39] <cjwatson> The main caution is that, while it's possible basically as a side-effect of making it reasonable to develop Launchpad itself, Launchpad isn't particularly set up for it to work well - there's no federation between instances, various cron jobs you need aren't particularly documented, to keep it up to date you have to basically keep up with us due to interleaving DB and code changes, etc.
[22:40] <cjwatson> If you do it, make sure not to start from a development instance with sampledata in place, because that will have lots of cruft, be insecure, and likely spam people at Canonical
[22:41] <keithzg> Ah. Hmm. So I *probably* should just swallow my trepidation at working heavily with Perl and try Bugzilla instead, eh? Alas.
[22:41] <teward> (or any of the other bug handling solutions and such)
[22:42] <teward> oops sorry that wasn't for here
[22:42] <teward> (that was for a PM with someone, sorry... stupid laptop)
[22:42] <cjwatson> Well, you may still decide that Launchpad meets more of your needs than Bugzilla does, or it's also possible to pay for private project hosting on launchpad.net
[22:43] <cjwatson> Self-hosting can be done and we know of one or two other instances; it's just not productised as such
[22:43] <keithzg> teward: Funny timing, since it seemed like a reasonable response to my previous comment, heh
[22:44] <keithzg> cjwatson: Fair enough. Honestly I'm mostly just looking for anything that I can easily-ish migrate to from Fogbugz, and the two I've had most positive experience with using have been Bugzilla and Launchpad.
[22:44] <teward> keithzg: unintentional, i've been PMing with a buddy about bug handling systems for the past three hours
[22:44] <teward> stupidly, my laptop touchpad clicked to here
[22:45]  * teward throws his laptop touch pad out the window and replaces it with an actual mouse
[22:46] <cjwatson> keithzg: We can certainly help if needed, but it's only fair to set expectations properly :-)
[22:47] <cjwatson> If you're happy to read code, explore, and generally put some effort into it
[22:51] <keithzg> cjwatson: Yeah, makes sense. Frankly I probably need to explore how to manually export from Fogbugz a bit more before I get to that point, I was just kindof curious to quickly spool up some contrasting bugtrackers and get a feel for how administering them would be.
[22:51] <cjwatson> Right
[23:01] <lifeless> it will also give folk like me admin on your instance, were you to do that.
[23:03] <cjwatson> exactly, see "insecure"
[23:04] <cjwatson> we should probably make the sampledata addresses a bit more fictional ...