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| wxl | alternates are out people, go test | 17:31 |
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| wxl | and now we have desktop builds | 17:33 |
| phillw | wxl: are we now frozen? | 18:46 |
| wxl | trying to figure that out phillw | 18:49 |
| wxl | but seems like it | 18:49 |
| phillw | okies. updated the postings saying it is tomorrow! | 18:51 |
| phillw | Bug 1467517 | 18:52 |
| ubot93 | bug 1467517 in lubuntu-software-center (Ubuntu) "LSC can only 'see' installed applications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1467517 | 18:52 |
| phillw | ahh, it has arrived!!! | 18:52 |
| wxl | well testing continues until thursday like normal i imagine | 18:52 |
| phillw | wxl: Joern has already been informed, it is just a paperwork excersise.. we had same last release. | 18:53 |
| wxl | phillw: yeah and afaik lsc is on its way out | 18:53 |
| phillw | it will remain until cute. | 18:54 |
| phillw | which happens to be written by the same guy who now bug fixes LSC :D - You have me and rafaellaguna to blame for that :D | 18:54 |
| rafaellaguna | O.O | 18:54 |
| phillw | Stephen Smalley left LSC as abandonware, Joern has bug fixed it for us, but is working more on what will be cute updater etc. | 18:55 |
| rafaellaguna | I don't know why but it works fine in Trusty (ElementaryOS) | 18:56 |
| phillw | it also works fine in vivid | 18:56 |
| rafaellaguna | I'm going to test it in a virtual Utopic I use for testing themes | 18:56 |
| phillw | there must have been a change in DBus / polkit | 18:56 |
| rafaellaguna | wait, it works for you? then why the bug? | 18:56 |
| phillw | rafaellaguna: werewolf? 15.10 ?... Do read the bug report :D | 18:57 |
| rafaellaguna | oh sorry, only in werewolf | 18:57 |
| ianorlyn | I wish ubuntu-bug said alternate or desktop installer could be the won't fix bug with alternate | 18:57 |
| ianorlyn | which joern said there was no real good way to fix but there are workarounds | 18:58 |
| phillw | rafaellaguna: it is a regression type bug, that has been previously fixed - but some smart person has altered some thing some where that causes LSC to not be able to see things. | 18:59 |
| rafaellaguna | let me guess... nobody from Lubuntu team | 18:59 |
| phillw | ianorlyn: once you have an install, it matters not one jot where it came from? | 19:00 |
| ianorlyn | phillw: no this was something with the way altenrates and updating the database for lubuntu software center not working which is why it was so hard to reproduce | 19:00 |
| phillw | I could install mini-iso (net boot) and add lubuntu-desktop meta package. I expect lubuntu desktop :) | 19:01 |
| ianorlyn | the way I remember to fix it sudo dpkg-reconfigure lubuntu-software-center although there is an update command I can't remember on my head | 19:01 |
| ianorlyn | anyway live session and manual partitoining install for amd 64 are basically done now | 19:03 |
| phillw | Well, until desktop installer can run on machines that lubuntu can - we have alternate. There has been talk of getting ubiquity a hair cut to lighten it - but that project seems to have gone very quiet. | 19:03 |
| phillw | wxl: I'm still a bit confused at the desktop test cases Vs the alternate ones.. | 19:04 |
| wxl | phillw: whatcha mean? | 19:04 |
| phillw | difference between guided and auto-resize for a start | 19:05 |
| phillw | encrytped home is no longer even a test case for Desktop, yet a suggested for alternate? Why? | 19:07 |
| ianorlin | phillw: I think that is just a difference in the way it is phrased | 19:08 |
| phillw | okay. So for Alternate, do we even need 'encrytped' ? | 19:10 |
| phillw | and as for 'unencrypted home'??? What?.... That is the blooming default! | 19:12 |
| phillw | Alternate Install..... | 19:15 |
| phillw | 1) Does it install on an entire disk | 19:15 |
| phillw | 2) Does It install next to an existing OS | 19:15 |
| wxl | phillw: encryption and unencrypted home are both optional | 19:15 |
| wxl | generally 1, but the guided can do 2 if you want | 19:16 |
| phillw | wxl: how the heck do have unencrypted home? | 19:16 |
| wxl | phillw: i don't remember the whole discussion but there was some sort of reason for it ;) | 19:17 |
| phillw | both 1) and 2) are, by default, unencrypted home! | 19:17 |
| wxl | you can ask nio, as i think he was the one pushing for it :) | 19:17 |
| phillw | well, go find the reason! | 19:17 |
| wxl | i'll let you know when i have a second | 19:17 |
| phillw | ta. | 19:17 |
| wxl | meanwhile, since it's optional, ignore it | 19:17 |
| phillw | No, I do the encrypeted as part of the side by side install. Kills two birds with one stone :) | 19:18 |
| phillw | Just, come on.... unencrypted home?!!! | 19:19 |
| ianorlin | yay desktop amd64 done | 19:28 |
| rafaellaguna | O.O | 19:30 |
| rafaellaguna | I can't keep this for me only | 19:30 |
| rafaellaguna | IT WORKS! | 19:30 |
| rafaellaguna | qtcurve theme for Lubuntu!!! | 19:30 |
| ianorlin | on wily ? | 19:31 |
| phillw | rafaellaguna: congrats!!!! | 19:31 |
| rafaellaguna | YUP | 19:31 |
| rafaellaguna | the colours look like shit but it's a beginning | 19:31 |
| rafaellaguna | say goodbye to GTK... | 19:31 |
| phillw | rafaellaguna: well, not untill 16.10 we cannot :( | 19:32 |
| rafaellaguna | I know :) | 19:32 |
| rafaellaguna | and anyway I must include, just in case anybody installs a GTK app | 19:32 |
| rafaellaguna | *include it | 19:32 |
| phillw | rafaellaguna: did you try Julien's vivid QT in a VM yet ? | 19:33 |
| rafaellaguna | yes. no install, as you said, and no session or power options | 19:33 |
| rafaellaguna | I emulated "my own Vivid" | 19:33 |
| phillw | okies... glad I'm not going daft.... Well, I am already daft, but you know what I mean :) | 19:33 |
| rafaellaguna | no | 19:34 |
| rafaellaguna | :D | 19:34 |
| rafaellaguna | lots of dependencies to clean (elementary, oxygen, etc) | 19:35 |
| phillw | plenty of time. It is a massive step change and the boss wants to also look at resource usage, as he says it is somewhat higher then he hoped for. | 19:36 |
| phillw | *than* | 19:37 |
| rafaellaguna | yup. that's why I want to get rid off some packages. plain Box. | 19:37 |
| rafaellaguna | artwork will be less heavy. | 19:37 |
| rafaellaguna | oxygen is 29 MB sized! | 19:37 |
| rafaellaguna | Box is 18 | 19:38 |
| rafaellaguna | we can't keep both | 19:38 |
| rafaellaguna | because we need to include accessibility ones | 19:38 |
| phillw | no, it is the resources the computer is using that is his concern. It seems a lot heavier on resources than he inititially thought, so it will take some pruning to get it down. | 19:39 |
| rafaellaguna | yes. that too. but I'm afraid the ISO size won't be less than 800MB or more | 19:39 |
| rafaellaguna | out of bounds | 19:40 |
| phillw | 16.04 is our LTS, that will be stable and supported. LxQt can still be fully followed, as all we are doing is holding releases | 19:40 |
| rafaellaguna | yes | 19:41 |
| phillw | putting ISO's onto a diet is always a difficult task. Not made any easier as lubuntu are the one in the family that does. | 19:41 |
| rafaellaguna | that cooker's task | 19:41 |
| rafaellaguna | but we can help by choosing the right packages | 19:41 |
| phillw | rafaellaguna: well, I can save a load of space and resources .... sack the other browsers and use xombrero :D | 19:46 |
| rafaellaguna | :D | 19:46 |
| rafaellaguna | we're on it. removing Chromium and putting QupZilla will do the job | 19:47 |
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