[00:06] <logan0405> Hi anyone know a way to disable touchpad when typing?
[00:10] <Remoboth> logan0405 -  YEs.
[00:10] <Remoboth> logan0405 -  GIve me a second.
[00:10] <logan0405> Hey I found it one the lubuntu wiki just now...
[00:10] <logan0405> trying to configure my touchpad to work well heheh
[00:10] <logan0405> can't get sensitivity quite right
[00:10] <Remoboth> logan0405 -  https://launchpad.net/touchpad-indicator
[00:12] <logan0405> FingerLow must be less that FingerHigh?
[00:13] <logan0405> Can't get my double tapping to work
[00:13] <logan0405> I'm gonna restart
[00:16] <logan0405> strange... double tapping doesnt work when I press alt to move windows
[00:16] <logan0405> But it works fine when I click mousepad in
[00:18] <logan0405> I have to double tap really hard when holding alt
[00:18] <logan0405> So weird
[00:18] <logan0405> Once I have grabbed the window once, and continue holding alt tapping works normally
[00:19] <logan0405> Anyone know what might be going on?
[00:21] <logan0405> Oh you know what
[00:21] <logan0405> I see whats happening
[00:21] <logan0405> disable touchpad while typing causes it
[00:21] <logan0405> heheh
[00:22] <logan0405> alright theres an option to allow modifier keys, nice synaptics well done
[00:29] <Remoboth> Final issue... I have a game called "Criticalmass" listed in my start menu list that I thought I Deleted... THe problem is that no matter how many times I try to delete the icon it pops up again in " /home/USERNAME/.local/share/applications "
[00:29] <Remoboth> What can I do to finally delete this fucking application?
[00:31] <ianorlin> have you unistalled the package
[00:31] <ianorlin> is there one systemwide in /usr/share/applications/ ?
[00:31] <ianorlin> have you uninstalled packages?
[00:34] <Remoboth> ianorlin -  I uninstaled the criticalmass package, yes.
[00:34] <Remoboth> CHecking everything else.
[00:34] <Remoboth> GIve me a sec.
[00:35] <Remoboth> ianorlin -  There is one in usr/share/applications
[00:36] <logan0405> I'm getting my lubuntu desktop lookin niiiice
[00:36] <logan0405> any devs here? I'm wondering how pcmanfm works as desktop application
[00:37] <logan0405> looking to replace it with terminal and auto gain focus
[00:39] <Remoboth> ianorlin -  Got it! Thank you.
[00:51] <logan0405> i love lxde
[01:32] <mapppps> hi all
[01:32] <mapppps> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[01:32] <mapppps> but the url is fine? opened in ffox?
[01:35] <Unit193> !eolupgrades | mapppps
[03:56] <sameeroak> hello
[03:56] <sameeroak> i want to mount /tmp with noexec flag. but my /etc/fstab doesn't have entry for /tmp
[03:57] <sameeroak> can someone please tell me how to add an entry of /tmp in /etc/fstab. my /etc/mtab shows and entry for /tmp with tmpfs fs.
[04:03] <holstein> !fstab
[04:03] <holstein> sameeroak: you can follow any ubuntu guides you find
[04:03] <holstein> though, you may be able to outline the larger goal you have, and get a "better" suggestion
[04:04] <sameeroak> holstein: thank you very much for your reply. i'm not being able to find an entry in /etc/fstab
[04:04] <sameeroak> holstein: i simply want to remount /tmp with noexec flag.
[04:05] <holstein> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
[04:05] <sameeroak> i've this virtual machine, ubuntu 14
[04:05] <holstein> ^ thats my default line from fstab
[04:05] <holstein> 14.04*
[04:05] <sameeroak> yes.
[04:05] <holstein> anyways, you can just use the mount commands, you dont *have* to use fstab..
[04:05] <sameeroak> holstein: so you mean, can i just go ahead and add this line in fstab and reboot the machine, right?
[04:06] <holstein> sameeroak: i cant say, since, i dont know anything about your setup
[04:06] <sameeroak> holstein: i know, it used the mount command to start with. however, it threw the error:
[04:06] <holstein> sameeroak: you say, you dont have the entry, thats the entry i have.. you can add it, and edit the flags, and know how to edit/fix fstab if you break it
[04:06] <sameeroak> root@crtqa-virtual-machine:~# mount -o remount,noexec /tmp
[04:06] <sameeroak> mount: can't find /tmp in /etc/fstab
[04:06] <holstein> or, just mount with the mount command..
[04:06] <ricanlinux> hey does anyone know if the lubuntu project will continue with powerpc development? I know on the site it states you staying with LTS releases. Just curios to see if it just stay with 14.04
[04:07] <holstein> !ppc
[04:07] <holstein> ricanlinux: its a community project, anyways
[04:07] <sameeroak> holstein: it's a virtual machine.
[04:08] <sameeroak> holstein: do you want to see the output of df -lPh ?
[04:08] <holstein> sameeroak: sure, i get that, friend.. virtual machines have virtual filesystems..
[04:08] <sameeroak> holstein: that's the problem, you've got that correct. so how can i remount /tmp then?
[04:09] <ricanlinux> i know it is a community project, so does that mean that questions on Lubuntu PPC are addressed here?
[04:09] <ricanlinux> are not i mean
[04:10] <holstein> ricanlinux: correct. its not an "official" port, generally.. but, as long as *any* ubuntu is released, for ppc, there should be lxde in the repos, and you can install
[04:11] <ricanlinux> ok thanks
[04:12] <holstein> sameeroak: do *you* see it listed in fstab?
[04:20] <sameeroak> holstein: no. that's the problem.
[04:20] <holstein> sameeroak: then, i would simply try adding it, and reboot, or, look into why you dont have it
[04:21] <sameeroak> holstein: i tried to find out, but didn't get any specific reason. as you've suggested, i'll try to add the entry as you showed in first couple of messages.
[06:40] <hyde> Hi, I need to edit remote files over ssh (with pubkey auth) from Lubuntu desktop. Can I easily get the remote mounted as filesystem, or is there an editor which can do it directly over ssh?
[06:40] <hyde> (I mean, I can do this the hard way, I'm looking for an easy way under Lubuntu, and didn't find anything under the desktop menu)
[06:41] <ianorlin> hyde: which editor?
[06:42] <ianorlin> you can mount in pcmanfm with sftp and then editing it should work I think
[06:43] <hyde> ianorlin: ah, looks like it's there. I didn't think to look inside pcmanfm. Thanks!
[07:15] <sameeroak> friends, any go start up companies in europe?
[07:15] <sameeroak> i'm start ups working in go?
[07:17] <ianorlin> sameeroak: this is a support channel for lubuntu I don't know about go companies and don't know of any user facing packages in lubuntu written in go by default
[07:25] <sameeroak> ianorlin: extremely sorry, i wanted to post the message to #go-nuts. posted here by mistake. again, extremely sorry.
[07:31] <ianorlin> oh that makes more sense
[11:00] <whytrytofly> hello
[11:01] <whytrytofly> does anyone know how to addsome free space from a partition that i deleted to my lubuntu partition
[15:50] <Gibarian> Any dropbox user around?
[15:57] <holstein> Gibarian: yes
[16:11] <Gibarian> Do you know if the white box issue (tray icon in white box) has been solved?
[16:12] <Gibarian> In the current Lubuntu release
[16:20] <holstein> Gibarian: i would ask the creators, or just try it.. i dont think its anything that lubuntu can solve, specifically, though, with all the GTK changes, i would expect "issues" for a bit
[16:21] <Gibarian> holstein: ok
[17:18] <jay8347> what is the command to disable the webcam on a laptop
[17:23] <holstein> !blacklist
[17:24] <holstein> or, you may find you can disable  it in the bios..
[17:24] <holstein> jay8347: whats the goal? you'll likely find that, you dont need to disable components like that, in linux, in regard to system resources
[17:25] <jay8347> i tried to black list uvcvideo and it also disabled my keyboard
[17:25] <jay8347> my goal is i want my webcam to always be turned off
[17:25] <holstein> jay8347: sure.. so, can you disable it in the bios?
[17:25] <jay8347> i do not think I have that option
[17:26] <jay8347> i was looking for a way to shut it off in linux ............if possible
[17:26] <holstein> jay8347: maybe check and see, since, that will be off.. also, a piece of tape is easy
[17:26] <holstein> jay8347: its "off" in linux, if you are not using it
[17:26] <jay8347> well i guess I do not want a hacker to be able to turn it on
[17:27] <holstein> jay8347: you guess? why not try and "hack" your machine and turn it on?
[17:27] <jay8347> I cant hack my machine I am not skillful enough
[17:28] <holstein> anyways, you can simply blacklist, or disable in the bios.. but, if a "hacker" had access, then could just undo the blacklist, and hide that they did that.. so, *if* you are worried about 'hackers', a software solution is likely not going to address that
[17:28] <jay8347> I was thinking via the internet a hacker could turn my cam on and spy on me or turn the mic on etc...
[17:28] <holstein> jay8347: sure, and unblacklist, or, what about injecting something into the uefi bootloader to renable in the bios?
[17:28] <jay8347> Module                  Size  Used by ctr                    13049  2  ccm                    17731  2  snd_hda_codec_hdmi     47547  1  snd_hda_codec_realtek    77185  1  snd_hda_codec_generic    68914  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek joydev                 17344  0  acer_wmi               32522  0  sparse_keymap          13948  1 acer_wmi hid_multitouch         17419  0  rfcomm                 69509  8  bnep                   19543  2  uv
[17:29] <holstein> jay8347: if i have "hacked" your machine, you cant lock me out of the webcam like that
[17:29] <jay8347> i cant locate the module
[17:29] <holstein> jay8347: it doesnt matter.. it doesnt address the issue
[17:29] <jay8347> i see
[17:29] <jay8347> so the bios route is the best route
[17:29] <holstein> you will want to purchase hardware that doesnt have it, or remove it physically.. or get a small piece of tape
[17:30] <holstein> you can damage it, permanently.. you will likely want to "break" or disable/remove the microphone, as well
[17:31] <jay8347> i was just curious about it.  i guess I will just see if it can be disabled in the bios, if not then i will just put a piece of tape
[17:31] <holstein> also, try and see what legitimately can happen
[17:32] <holstein> like, what does it actually take to do that? typically, on a linux machine, running things *not* as root, and having "good" permissions stops all of that
[17:32] <jay8347> why is it when I do modprobe -r uvcvideo my keyboard stops working ?
[17:32] <holstein> or, dramatically decreases it
[17:32] <holstein> if, say, someone wants to target you, specifically, and has deep enough pockets, there is really nothing you can do
[17:33] <jay8347> well i am not some big corp or a million dollar man............so i assume no one will be targeting me at that level
[17:33] <holstein> jay8347: sure, and thats the issue... "assuming"
[17:33] <jay8347> my cousin was surfing a porn site and the porn site popped up an ad that took a pic of him using his cam
[17:33] <holstein> its alwasy good to try and get as factual as you can about the actual risks, and what they are
[17:34] <holstein> jay8347: sure.. and, how did that happen? running the web browser as administrator? not patching? agreeing to that by clicking a button? etc..
[17:34] <holstein> i mean, bad things happen..
[17:34] <jay8347> yea for sure
[17:35] <holstein> but, try and not live in fear.. look for the facts, and know the risks
[17:35] <jay8347> i mean he has windows 8
[17:35] <holstein> address them.. even if that means *not* going online
[17:35] <jay8347> i went to linux because i didnt want to go to windows 8
[17:35] <holstein> so, running windows 8 as an admin user, that can easily happen
[17:35] <holstein> are you running as admin? not on a stock lubuntu install..
[17:36] <holstein> and, im not saying "oh, trust me, you are safe".. im saying, check and see for yourself
[17:36] <jay8347> i do not know the answer to that question.   I do know that it if i type in sudo it then asks for my pass
[17:36] <jay8347> if i run as admin does it never prompt me for a pass
[17:37] <holstein> jay8347: sure, so, when you dont know, then, ask, and look and see
[17:37] <jay8347> i am new to linux, so far I have limited command abilities, reminds me of the days of DOS terminal
[17:37] <holstein> *that* is a simple way for an attacker to gain access to hardware.. the user is running *everything* as admin
[17:37] <holstein> !sudo
[17:37] <holstein> try and not expect to solve all these issues in such a short time
[17:38] <jay8347> can a person hack linux ?
[17:38] <holstein> i mean, if you were running windows, before, as admin, and you move to stock lubuntu, you are already in much better shape
[17:38] <holstein> jay8347: of course
[17:38] <holstein> but, you dont *have* to "hack" anything.. you just have to gain access
[17:38] <jay8347> would they need to use a brute force password thing to hack linux
[17:38] <holstein> that can be done by someone tricking you into running a sudo command
[17:38] <jay8347> wouldnt they need my password
[17:39] <holstein> jay8347: i dont need to brute force anything, if i get you to run a "magic" sudo command..
[17:39] <BBA> Salut !
[17:39] <holstein> jay8347: you would be the one inputing the password, and trusting the command, for example
[17:39] <jay8347> what do the hackers use a keylogger ?
[17:39] <holstein> or, not understanding what it does.. or, trying to install something
[17:39] <holstein> jay8347: to capture keystrokes.. such as sensitive passwords
[17:39] <holstein> BBA: o/
[17:39] <jay8347> oh so the hacker gets the pass when you put it in on a server
[17:40] <BBA> How to upgrade Lubuntu 14.04 to Lubuntu 15.04 please ?
[17:40] <jay8347> like if i do sudo apt-get install ?
[17:40] <holstein> BBA: you cant, easily.. you can simply reinstall, or upgrade to 14.10, then 15.04. i suggest backing up, regardless, before doing either.. and i suggest waiting til 16.04, which *will* upgrade straight from 14.04
[17:41] <holstein> jay8347: no.. those are typically, "in repo" packages.. "safe and tested".. as much as they can be
[17:41] <BBA> Okay, thanks
[17:41] <BBA> Do you know when the 16.04 version will be available ?
[17:41] <holstein> jay8347: the issue would be, sudo some_secret_script.you.dowload
[17:41] <jay8347> why did microsoft windows get big but linux didnt ?
[17:41] <holstein> BBA: the first number, 16, is the year, the second, 04 is the month
[17:42] <holstein> jay8347: there is no "linux".. its not a company, selling you a product
[17:42] <BBA> holstein: I have to wait for a long time !
[17:42] <holstein> its just the community project, and the kernel that is produced.. android *did* get "big", selling and utlizing the linux kernel
[17:42] <holstein> BBA: no, you can do what you like, friend.. install 15.04, if you want..
[17:43] <holstein> !lts
[17:43] <holstein> 14.04 and 16.04 are long term support releases.. 5 years uptime on the sources
[17:43] <BBA> I think I will test it, maybe will my old notebook die but I prefer
[17:43] <holstein> if you want the "in between normal release" go for it. you'll upgrade from 14.04, to 14.10, to 15.04
[17:43] <holstein> i would expect about 4 hours per step
[17:44] <BBA> And thanks to you I ready for my english exam tomorrow, I'm French uhuh
[17:44] <holstein> or, a simple reinstall might take 20 minutes..
[17:46] <BBA> I did "do-release-upgrade" and it's saying "no new version available"
[17:47] <holstein> BBA: yup.. there is no "new LTS version"
[17:47] <holstein> and thats the way its setup
[17:47] <BBA> Okay, thanks for the explainations
[17:47] <holstein> i suggest, *if* you want to do the upgrade, have a proper backup, then, go into the menu to the update manager, and tell it you want to look for regular releases, not just LTS's
[17:48] <BBA> Okay, I see
[17:48] <holstein> then,  you can fresh, and see the 14.10, which is EOL soon, that may be broken
[17:48] <BBA> Is it normal to have a reduced number of paquets availale in the software center ?
[17:49] <holstein> BBA: not sure what you are referring to
[17:49] <BBA> I'm using Lubuntu, I speaking about the graphic software where I can find other things to install
[17:50] <BBA> In my langage that's the "Logithèque Lubuntu"
[17:51] <BBA> That's it: http://www.clapico.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lubuntu02.png
[17:53] <BBA> Can I install he "regular" Ubuntu Software Center on Lubuntu ?
[17:57] <holstein> BBA: should be in the repos, and actually, not address that issue
[17:58] <holstein> you can use any package manager you choose.. i would try synaptic, for a GUI one
[17:58] <BBA> Yes, I'm a beginner and the command line isn't very clear for me
[17:59] <BBA> I will test it later, because the "upgrade manager" is running
[17:59] <BBA> So thank you for your help, and maybe see you later guys !
[21:51]  * penguin1263 FUCK AT&T
[21:51] <wxl> !language | penguin1263