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knightwisegood morning peeps05:07
diddledanallo05:15
knightwiseheya diddledan05:29
knightwisehow are you today05:29
diddledanawake :-p05:31
diddledanbeen watching sense8 the past few hours05:32
knightwiseLol :) I have it on the 'list' here05:32
knightwisewe just finished the first season of The following05:32
* knightwise shower - shave - excercise. brb05:34
knightwisebeack06:02
diddledanquack06:03
knightwisemonday morning typos06:06
knightwisestill getting used to the dell's keyboard.06:06
diddledanlol06:06
knightwisepretty impressed by it. owned a macbook air for a while and this is actually a better device06:07
diddledanit's always great to buy something expensive and be really happy that you did06:10
knightwisewell, its not THAT expensive when you look at what you get06:11
diddledanpositive reinforcement06:11
knightwisegreat screen, thin, light ... and ubuntu runs flawless06:11
knightwisethat is all i wanted06:11
diddledanproblem is it's addictive like crack06:11
knightwisea 13 inch screen in an 11 inch form factor.06:11
knightwisetrue diddledan ...;06:11
knightwisealthough i've been tapering down my gadget buying spree06:11
knightwise(see the item i did on "having is not as pleasing as wanting") on the one of the last podcast episodes06:12
diddledanyeah I think I did06:14
knightwisein this case I didn"t really NEED the XPS , but I always wanted a good ubuntu-based machine06:14
knightwiseand now i have something that is small, light and runs well.06:14
diddledan\o/06:15
knightwisealthough I must say the surface pro3 i have is also one kickass machine when it comes to taking it to meetings and stuff.06:15
knightwise(traded it with some guy against my old mac mini)06:15
diddledanyeah my surface pro 3 is my daily driver06:15
diddledanI bought the docking station for it06:16
knightwisethat is a GREAT device. probably the one and only device that makes the tablet-laptop factor work.06:16
knightwiseMS did a bang up job there06:16
knightwisethe one thing that is better on the xps (speaking hardware) is that its even lighter.06:17
diddledanwow06:17
knightwisebut the Surface pro 3 is  my goto device when I need to go on meetings with clients and take notes and stuff06:17
knightwisethe only thing I still need to get working on my XPS is onenote.06:18
knightwiseWine won't run it.06:18
knightwiseSo i CAN fall back to the web based version but ..06:18
knightwiseI take a lot of written notes in onentoe06:18
knightwiseonenote06:18
diddledanthe pend on the surface is nice06:18
diddledanpen*06:18
knightwiseyep , that is a killer feature right there06:19
diddledanI heard ms bought the manufacturer behind the pen06:19
knightwisenot a bad call. i'm very curious what they are going to do on the surface 306:20
knightwisesurface 406:20
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:09
knightwisehey brobostigon07:14
brobostigonhi knightwise07:14
knightwisehow goes it today brobostigon07:15
brobostigonhalf asleep, and you?07:16
brobostigonabit of hip pain.07:16
knightwisebeen up for a while now.07:16
knightwiseauw07:16
knightwisethats not good07:16
brobostigondefinatly, it happens sometimes, when i have a day like yesterday, when i am on my feet abit more, it just needs rest.07:16
diploMorning all07:54
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MooDoomorning08:03
diddledanm0008:05
davmor2_morning all08:17
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knightwisemorning davmor208:20
davmor2For some unknown reason the song in my head today is Everybody by backstreet boys08:22
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foobarrystill had 500MB swap used upon my return on monday but tab pauser has sped up my pc08:37
foobarrywonder if there is a nice app to plot which processes are using RAM on a time series chart08:37
knightwisehey MooDoo , foobarry08:38
knightwisehow are you guys today08:38
foobarryo/08:38
MooDooyeah ok thanks08:41
knightwisehmm.. teh version of geary in the repositories is an older one if i'm not mistaken.08:49
knightwiseit does not even support signatures$08:49
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Monday and happy Onion Rings Day! 😃09:00
foobarryeww not for breakfast09:01
davmor2JamesTait: I'm beginning to think there are no Happy Meat Eater Days now09:01
foobarryis there no bacon day?09:02
davmor2JamesTait: When are the Happy Eat Prime Steak days?09:02
foobarry 10:04:06 up 1338 days, 19:56,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.0009:04
foobarryarggh i missed leet day09:04
JamesTaitdavmor2, https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/eat-what-you-want-day/09:04
foobarryneed to wait another 4 years09:04
JamesTaitfoobarry, https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/bacon-day/09:04
foobarryevery saturday is bacon day09:05
davmor2JamesTait: no no no no no no no no That isn't eat prime steak day :P09:05
davmor2JamesTait: and if the 25/12 isn't over eat day and only eat turkey day I would want to know why ;)09:07
diddledanonion rings are amazeballs09:09
diddledanor rather, amazerings09:09
davmor2diddledan: scotch eggs are amazeballs you fool ;)09:10
diddledanthey go well with that prime steak09:10
diddledanI'm not wewll enamored with scottie eggs09:10
directhexmarch 14th is steak day, no?09:10
davmor2scotch eggs go well with prime steak??? diddledan weirdo09:11
diddledannono, the onion rings do09:11
Myrttipopey: Nyancat v. 0.0109:12
diddledanyey?09:12
foobarryjust noticed my swappiness was the default of 6009:12
popeyMyrtti: haha :)09:14
Myrttifew more iterations and it's there :-D09:15
popeyone thing off that cats bucket list09:15
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Myrttioooh This years Who Do You Think You Are is going to be great09:39
Myrttihttp://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2015/who-do-you-think-you-are09:39
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awilkinspopey, Is there a LibreOffice 5.0 PPA?12:02
popeypass12:02
awilkinsThey have a .deb for download though12:02
popeyhttps://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases12:02
awilkinsCan't find a summary of why 5.0 is awesome compared to 4.4 either :-)12:03
popeythats made by the libreoffice maintainer in ubuntu12:03
popeyso i trust that ppa12:03
awilkinsAha, found the release notes12:03
diploSeems Collabara have been doing a lot of work on it12:08
directhex"collabora productivity" is a separate division, which formed to maintain/sell LO. many of the LO core devs are there, e.g. mmeeks12:11
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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)12:26
knightwise hey big12:26
knightwisehow are you dude12:26
bigcalmFairly awake and stuffing my face with a subway12:27
popeyooh, not had subway for years12:28
knightwiseUgn .. salty stuff12:33
MooDoooooo love foot long steak and cheese12:34
awilkinsI love a cheese steak but I prefer to make my own12:34
popeyused to get a subway when I worked in uxbridge12:45
popeywe don't have them here12:45
zmoylan-pii'm sure some other chain has filled that dietary niche12:54
foobarrysubway always gives me post subway regret12:55
bigcalmI enjoyed that. Not sure I should have had a full foot long though12:55
* bigcalm be a greedy bugger12:56
awilkinsFootlong BMT with the chipotle mayo and plenty of olives :nomface:13:11
bigcalmChicken pizzola on honey oat bread, toasted and grated cheese. Lettuce, tomato, olives, onions and jalapeño peppers. Bit of mayo. White coffee. 3 white chocolate chip cookies.13:14
bigcalmThanks very much13:14
AzelphurWhere do people usually mount raid arrays (On a server)?13:27
bigcalmI have mine in /media13:28
Azelphuryea, I guess that's as good as anything13:29
popeyi have mine under /srv and /backups13:29
Azelphurwhy /srv?13:29
popeywhy not13:29
Azelphurwell usually you name folders something with reason, dunno what srv is13:29
popeyits common to use /srv/ on servers13:30
AzelphurI see13:30
popeye.g. /srv/domain.com/www for the website and /srv/domain.com/logs for that site logs13:30
Azelphurfor this drive, it's gonna contain backups, media, ownCloud, etc13:30
popeyalan@bishop:~$ ls -l /srv | wc -l13:30
popey5213:30
AzelphurI see :)13:30
Azelphurmaybe I'll drop it in as /storage/13:30
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diploI do the same asa popey13:50
diploOn nearly all my personal setups13:50
AzelphurWhat's the best way to give KVM'd machines access to a folder on the host?13:56
diploSamba ?13:58
diplohttp://www.linux-kvm.org/page/9p_virtio13:58
AzelphurInteresting13:59
Azelphurcould use either13:59
diplohttp://dustymabe.com/2012/09/11/share-a-folder-between-kvm-host-and-guest/13:59
diploOr that maybe ?13:59
diploah the same thing13:59
NET||abu-hi folks,, i setup an aws instance and stuck ubuntu 14.04 on it, loaded up ubuntu-desktop, added x2go server and rebootd everything, i run the client and it seems to get a connection and open a gui window, but it's stuck as a plain black window13:59
AzelphurI wonder which is faster, 9p or CIFS14:00
AzelphurI might just go CIFS so everything is managed by CIFS so the permissions are all easy14:00
NET||abu-Azelphur:  scp -c arcfour   :P14:00
NET||abu-Anyone know why i dont get anything visually on the screen?14:01
ujjainhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11689799/Revealed-How-to-lose-weight-drink-plenty-of-red-wine.html14:02
ujjainnew dirt14:02
ujjaindiet14:02
zmoylan-piprobably works as red wine crowd don't get chips or other takeout on way home from wine and cheese event as much... :-)14:06
NET||abu-hmm, ok, updated x2go client on my local machine, added the ppa,, now the x2go black window pops up and then closes a moment later, then x2go client asks for login (password field empty) but i've specified the key.14:10
Azelphur... wat http://pastebin.com/tbHzGMVB14:16
AzelphurI think I officially broke touch guys, add it to the list.14:16
NET||abu-i'm loosing here,, has anyone used x2go on unity on 14.04?14:17
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NET||abusei'm loosing here,, has anyone used x2go on unity on 14.04? I've install it on an aws instance, setup ubuntu-desktop, installed the x2go ppa the x2goserver, rebooted the instance, got the client on my local laptop. it connects ok over ssh, the dialog says it gets the x session. but then i just get a blank window for a moment then the x session terminates?14:19
foobarrycheck apparmor14:19
foobarryand x session logfile14:19
foobarryalso which DE are you connecting to14:21
foobarryNET||abuse: don't use gnoem or unity to log into14:22
NET||abusedont use unity?14:22
NET||abusefoobarry: DE ?14:23
foobarrywhich desktop environment are you trying to run on the server14:23
NET||abuseahh, yes, was initially using unity, just installed the default ubuntu-desktop14:23
NET||abusewhat do you suggst?14:23
foobarrytry lxde or xfce14:23
foobarryfor the x2go session14:23
NET||abusei'll have to install those on the remote box though?14:24
foobarryyes, not lxde-desktop though14:24
NET||abuseoh,, what then?14:24
foobarryjust lxde and lxde-session and other bits and bobs maybe, i can't remember14:24
foobarryii  lxde                                        0.5.0-4ubuntu3                                      Meta-package for the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment14:24
foobarrylxde-common, lxde-core, lxde-icon-theme14:24
foobarrythats the 4 i have14:25
NET||abuseinstall lxde installs 80 packages :)14:25
foobarrysize?14:25
NET||abuse14.4 MB of archives.14:25
foobarrytiny14:26
NET||abuseincluding those 3 packages you listed above14:26
popeyubuntu-mate is nice via x2go I hear :)14:26
NET||abuseso is unity just busted for this use case?14:26
NET||abuseis it hte 3d business?14:26
popeydunno, never tried unity in x2go14:26
popeypossibly14:26
NET||abusedarnit14:27
NET||abusewas trying to give this over to a mac user as a "look how awesome remote linux is working"14:27
NET||abusehoped to replicate his setup in virtualbox he's using on aws14:27
foobarryhttp://lists.x2go.org/pipermail/x2go-user/2014-May/002260.html14:27
foobarry"it would be easiest if14:27
foobarryyou would use a desktop environment other than GNOME3 or UNITY. KDE,14:27
foobarryXFCE and LXDE are included in Ubuntu 14.04 and work fine with X2Go."14:27
foobarryNET||abuse: i use it on elementary, and is pretty sweet14:28
NET||abusefair nuff14:28
AzelphurCan anyone help me with SMB and permissions? I've got some really really weird things going on :/14:36
AzelphurI've created a samba user called storage, which is tied to the Unix username storage, I've mounted it on another machine, but I can't write to that directory14:37
Azelphureven though, as the storage user on the samba server - I can write to that directory just fine14:37
davmor2Azelphur: how are you logging into the server from the client14:39
Azelphur//192.168.122.1/TV /storage/TV cifs  username=storage,password=redacted,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  014:39
Azelphurdavmor2: ^14:41
davmor2Azelphur: I can't help you out but it might help others be able to help you with the extra info.  trying to think of anything else that might be useful14:43
Azelphurnothing else I can think of that would be useful14:43
AzelphurI think it's the whole user mapping issue on both sides, and I'm really not sure how that's supposed to work.14:44
davmor2Azelphur: daft question, that the fstab rules right you did actually mount it right?14:46
Azelphurdavmor2: it is mounted, if that's what you're asking14:47
AzelphurIt's really kinda frustrating, I just want everything in this folder to be owned by the user storage, very hard to get that it seems14:49
diddledanAzelphur: writable=true?14:50
diddledan(guess)14:50
Azelphuryup14:50
davmor2Azelphur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently might want to use this as a double check and then look at the server side against https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html sorry I can't be more help :)14:52
diploAzelphur: you need to create a samba user as well yeah ? so smbpasswd -a storage14:53
diplopasswd doesn't match with samba users14:53
AzelphurI already have one created, I used system-config-samba for it14:53
diploNever used it :)14:54
Azelphurit's so strange, it creates the file even though it says permission denied, I can rm the file, but I can't nano the file14:56
Azelphur:/14:57
davmor2Azelphur: that sounds like user permissions issue on the server or with samba14:59
Azelphurdavmor2: indeed, I figured that much out14:59
AzelphurI'm surprised nobody has ran into setting up something like this before15:04
davmor2popey: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115731829869104895486/posts/YhNMTXLLhHf in my feed this is the post next to your remove the cat before flying :)15:07
foobarrythat cat could fly in my 1/32 tiger moth15:09
foobarryhttp://i.imgur.com/hfe5z4C.jpg15:10
foobarry(not complete yet)15:10
davmor2foobarry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ popey s message15:11
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