[05:07] <knightwise> good morning peeps
[05:15] <diddledan> allo
[05:29] <knightwise> heya diddledan
[05:29] <knightwise> how are you today
[05:31] <diddledan> awake :-p
[05:32] <diddledan> been watching sense8 the past few hours
[05:32] <knightwise> Lol :) I have it on the 'list' here
[05:32] <knightwise> we just finished the first season of The following
[05:34]  * knightwise shower - shave - excercise. brb
[06:02] <knightwise> beack
[06:03] <diddledan> quack
[06:06] <knightwise> monday morning typos
[06:06] <knightwise> still getting used to the dell's keyboard.
[06:06] <diddledan> lol
[06:07] <knightwise> pretty impressed by it. owned a macbook air for a while and this is actually a better device
[06:10] <diddledan> it's always great to buy something expensive and be really happy that you did
[06:11] <knightwise> well, its not THAT expensive when you look at what you get
[06:11] <diddledan> positive reinforcement
[06:11] <knightwise> great screen, thin, light ... and ubuntu runs flawless
[06:11] <knightwise> that is all i wanted
[06:11] <diddledan> problem is it's addictive like crack
[06:11] <knightwise> a 13 inch screen in an 11 inch form factor.
[06:11] <knightwise> true diddledan ...;
[06:11] <knightwise> although i've been tapering down my gadget buying spree
[06:12] <knightwise> (see the item i did on "having is not as pleasing as wanting") on the one of the last podcast episodes
[06:14] <diddledan> yeah I think I did
[06:14] <knightwise> in this case I didn"t really NEED the XPS , but I always wanted a good ubuntu-based machine
[06:14] <knightwise> and now i have something that is small, light and runs well.
[06:15] <diddledan> \o/
[06:15] <knightwise> although I must say the surface pro3 i have is also one kickass machine when it comes to taking it to meetings and stuff.
[06:15] <knightwise> (traded it with some guy against my old mac mini)
[06:15] <diddledan> yeah my surface pro 3 is my daily driver
[06:16] <diddledan> I bought the docking station for it
[06:16] <knightwise> that is a GREAT device. probably the one and only device that makes the tablet-laptop factor work.
[06:16] <knightwise> MS did a bang up job there
[06:17] <knightwise> the one thing that is better on the xps (speaking hardware) is that its even lighter.
[06:17] <diddledan> wow
[06:17] <knightwise> but the Surface pro 3 is  my goto device when I need to go on meetings with clients and take notes and stuff
[06:18] <knightwise> the only thing I still need to get working on my XPS is onenote.
[06:18] <knightwise> Wine won't run it.
[06:18] <knightwise> So i CAN fall back to the web based version but ..
[06:18] <knightwise> I take a lot of written notes in onentoe
[06:18] <knightwise> onenote
[06:18] <diddledan> the pend on the surface is nice
[06:18] <diddledan> pen*
[06:19] <knightwise> yep , that is a killer feature right there
[06:19] <diddledan> I heard ms bought the manufacturer behind the pen
[06:20] <knightwise> not a bad call. i'm very curious what they are going to do on the surface 3
[06:20] <knightwise> surface 4
[07:09] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:14] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[07:14] <brobostigon> hi knightwise
[07:15] <knightwise> how goes it today brobostigon
[07:16] <brobostigon> half asleep, and you?
[07:16] <brobostigon> abit of hip pain.
[07:16] <knightwise> been up for a while now.
[07:16] <knightwise> auw
[07:16] <knightwise> thats not good
[07:16] <brobostigon> definatly, it happens sometimes, when i have a day like yesterday, when i am on my feet abit more, it just needs rest.
[07:54] <diplo> Morning all
[08:03] <MooDoo> morning
[08:05] <diddledan> m00
[08:17] <davmor2_> morning all
[08:20] <knightwise> morning davmor2
[08:22] <davmor2> For some unknown reason the song in my head today is Everybody by backstreet boys
[08:37] <foobarry> still had 500MB swap used upon my return on monday but tab pauser has sped up my pc
[08:37] <foobarry> wonder if there is a nice app to plot which processes are using RAM on a time series chart
[08:38] <knightwise> hey MooDoo , foobarry
[08:38] <knightwise> how are you guys today
[08:38] <foobarry> o/
[08:41] <MooDoo> yeah ok thanks
[08:49] <knightwise> hmm.. teh version of geary in the repositories is an older one if i'm not mistaken.
[08:49] <knightwise> it does not even support signatures$
[09:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday and happy Onion Rings Day! 😃
[09:01] <foobarry> eww not for breakfast
[09:01] <davmor2> JamesTait: I'm beginning to think there are no Happy Meat Eater Days now
[09:02] <foobarry> is there no bacon day?
[09:02] <davmor2> JamesTait: When are the Happy Eat Prime Steak days?
[09:04] <foobarry>  10:04:06 up 1338 days, 19:56,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
[09:04] <foobarry> arggh i missed leet day
[09:04] <JamesTait> davmor2, https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/eat-what-you-want-day/
[09:04] <foobarry> need to wait another 4 years
[09:04] <JamesTait> foobarry, https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/bacon-day/
[09:05] <foobarry> every saturday is bacon day
[09:05] <davmor2> JamesTait: no no no no no no no no That isn't eat prime steak day :P
[09:07] <davmor2> JamesTait: and if the 25/12 isn't over eat day and only eat turkey day I would want to know why ;)
[09:09] <diddledan> onion rings are amazeballs
[09:09] <diddledan> or rather, amazerings
[09:10] <davmor2> diddledan: scotch eggs are amazeballs you fool ;)
[09:10] <diddledan> they go well with that prime steak
[09:10] <diddledan> I'm not wewll enamored with scottie eggs
[09:10] <directhex> march 14th is steak day, no?
[09:11] <davmor2> scotch eggs go well with prime steak??? diddledan weirdo
[09:11] <diddledan> nono, the onion rings do
[09:12] <Myrtti> popey: Nyancat v. 0.01
[09:12] <diddledan> yey?
[09:12] <foobarry> just noticed my swappiness was the default of 60
[09:14] <popey> Myrtti: haha :)
[09:15] <Myrtti> few more iterations and it's there :-D
[09:15] <popey> one thing off that cats bucket list
[09:39] <Myrtti> oooh This years Who Do You Think You Are is going to be great
[09:39] <Myrtti> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2015/who-do-you-think-you-are
[12:02] <awilkins> popey, Is there a LibreOffice 5.0 PPA?
[12:02] <popey> pass
[12:02] <awilkins> They have a .deb for download though
[12:02] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases
[12:03] <awilkins> Can't find a summary of why 5.0 is awesome compared to 4.4 either :-)
[12:03] <popey> thats made by the libreoffice maintainer in ubuntu
[12:03] <popey> so i trust that ppa
[12:03] <awilkins> Aha, found the release notes
[12:08] <diplo> Seems Collabara have been doing a lot of work on it
[12:11] <directhex> "collabora productivity" is a separate division, which formed to maintain/sell LO. many of the LO core devs are there, e.g. mmeeks
[12:26] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[12:26] <knightwise>  hey big
[12:26] <knightwise> how are you dude
[12:27] <bigcalm> Fairly awake and stuffing my face with a subway
[12:28] <popey> ooh, not had subway for years
[12:33] <knightwise> Ugn .. salty stuff
[12:34] <MooDoo> oooo love foot long steak and cheese
[12:34] <awilkins> I love a cheese steak but I prefer to make my own
[12:45] <popey> used to get a subway when I worked in uxbridge
[12:45] <popey> we don't have them here
[12:54] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure some other chain has filled that dietary niche
[12:55] <foobarry> subway always gives me post subway regret
[12:55] <bigcalm> I enjoyed that. Not sure I should have had a full foot long though
[12:56]  * bigcalm be a greedy bugger
[13:11] <awilkins> Footlong BMT with the chipotle mayo and plenty of olives :nomface:
[13:14] <bigcalm> Chicken pizzola on honey oat bread, toasted and grated cheese. Lettuce, tomato, olives, onions and jalapeño peppers. Bit of mayo. White coffee. 3 white chocolate chip cookies.
[13:14] <bigcalm> Thanks very much
[13:27] <Azelphur> Where do people usually mount raid arrays (On a server)?
[13:28] <bigcalm> I have mine in /media
[13:29] <Azelphur> yea, I guess that's as good as anything
[13:29] <popey> i have mine under /srv and /backups
[13:29] <Azelphur> why /srv?
[13:29] <popey> why not
[13:29] <Azelphur> well usually you name folders something with reason, dunno what srv is
[13:30] <popey> its common to use /srv/ on servers
[13:30] <Azelphur> I see
[13:30] <popey> e.g. /srv/domain.com/www for the website and /srv/domain.com/logs for that site logs
[13:30] <Azelphur> for this drive, it's gonna contain backups, media, ownCloud, etc
[13:30] <popey> alan@bishop:~$ ls -l /srv | wc -l
[13:30] <popey> 52
[13:30] <Azelphur> I see :)
[13:30] <Azelphur> maybe I'll drop it in as /storage/
[13:50] <diplo> I do the same asa popey
[13:50] <diplo> On nearly all my personal setups
[13:56] <Azelphur> What's the best way to give KVM'd machines access to a folder on the host?
[13:58] <diplo> Samba ?
[13:58] <diplo> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/9p_virtio
[13:59] <Azelphur> Interesting
[13:59] <Azelphur> could use either
[13:59] <diplo> http://dustymabe.com/2012/09/11/share-a-folder-between-kvm-host-and-guest/
[13:59] <diplo> Or that maybe ?
[13:59] <diplo> ah the same thing
[13:59] <NET||abu-> hi folks,, i setup an aws instance and stuck ubuntu 14.04 on it, loaded up ubuntu-desktop, added x2go server and rebootd everything, i run the client and it seems to get a connection and open a gui window, but it's stuck as a plain black window
[14:00] <Azelphur> I wonder which is faster, 9p or CIFS
[14:00] <Azelphur> I might just go CIFS so everything is managed by CIFS so the permissions are all easy
[14:00] <NET||abu-> Azelphur:  scp -c arcfour   :P
[14:01] <NET||abu-> Anyone know why i dont get anything visually on the screen?
[14:02] <ujjain> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11689799/Revealed-How-to-lose-weight-drink-plenty-of-red-wine.html
[14:02] <ujjain> new dirt
[14:02] <ujjain> diet
[14:06] <zmoylan-pi> probably works as red wine crowd don't get chips or other takeout on way home from wine and cheese event as much... :-)
[14:10] <NET||abu-> hmm, ok, updated x2go client on my local machine, added the ppa,, now the x2go black window pops up and then closes a moment later, then x2go client asks for login (password field empty) but i've specified the key.
[14:16] <Azelphur> ... wat http://pastebin.com/tbHzGMVB
[14:16] <Azelphur> I think I officially broke touch guys, add it to the list.
[14:17] <NET||abu-> i'm loosing here,, has anyone used x2go on unity on 14.04?
[14:19] <NET||abuse> i'm loosing here,, has anyone used x2go on unity on 14.04? I've install it on an aws instance, setup ubuntu-desktop, installed the x2go ppa the x2goserver, rebooted the instance, got the client on my local laptop. it connects ok over ssh, the dialog says it gets the x session. but then i just get a blank window for a moment then the x session terminates?
[14:19] <foobarry> check apparmor
[14:19] <foobarry> and x session logfile
[14:21] <foobarry> also which DE are you connecting to
[14:22] <foobarry> NET||abuse: don't use gnoem or unity to log into
[14:22] <NET||abuse> dont use unity?
[14:23] <NET||abuse> foobarry: DE ?
[14:23] <foobarry> which desktop environment are you trying to run on the server
[14:23] <NET||abuse> ahh, yes, was initially using unity, just installed the default ubuntu-desktop
[14:23] <NET||abuse> what do you suggst?
[14:23] <foobarry> try lxde or xfce
[14:23] <foobarry> for the x2go session
[14:24] <NET||abuse> i'll have to install those on the remote box though?
[14:24] <foobarry> yes, not lxde-desktop though
[14:24] <NET||abuse> oh,, what then?
[14:24] <foobarry> just lxde and lxde-session and other bits and bobs maybe, i can't remember
[14:24] <foobarry> ii  lxde                                        0.5.0-4ubuntu3                                      Meta-package for the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment
[14:24] <foobarry> lxde-common, lxde-core, lxde-icon-theme
[14:25] <foobarry> thats the 4 i have
[14:25] <NET||abuse> install lxde installs 80 packages :)
[14:25] <foobarry> size?
[14:25] <NET||abuse> 14.4 MB of archives.
[14:26] <foobarry> tiny
[14:26] <NET||abuse> including those 3 packages you listed above
[14:26] <popey> ubuntu-mate is nice via x2go I hear :)
[14:26] <NET||abuse> so is unity just busted for this use case?
[14:26] <NET||abuse> is it hte 3d business?
[14:26] <popey> dunno, never tried unity in x2go
[14:26] <popey> possibly
[14:27] <NET||abuse> darnit
[14:27] <NET||abuse> was trying to give this over to a mac user as a "look how awesome remote linux is working"
[14:27] <NET||abuse> hoped to replicate his setup in virtualbox he's using on aws
[14:27] <foobarry> http://lists.x2go.org/pipermail/x2go-user/2014-May/002260.html
[14:27] <foobarry> "it would be easiest if
[14:27] <foobarry> you would use a desktop environment other than GNOME3 or UNITY. KDE,
[14:27] <foobarry> XFCE and LXDE are included in Ubuntu 14.04 and work fine with X2Go."
[14:28] <foobarry> NET||abuse: i use it on elementary, and is pretty sweet
[14:28] <NET||abuse> fair nuff
[14:36] <Azelphur> Can anyone help me with SMB and permissions? I've got some really really weird things going on :/
[14:37] <Azelphur> I've created a samba user called storage, which is tied to the Unix username storage, I've mounted it on another machine, but I can't write to that directory
[14:37] <Azelphur> even though, as the storage user on the samba server - I can write to that directory just fine
[14:39] <davmor2> Azelphur: how are you logging into the server from the client
[14:39] <Azelphur> //192.168.122.1/TV /storage/TV cifs  username=storage,password=redacted,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  0
[14:41] <Azelphur> davmor2: ^
[14:43] <davmor2> Azelphur: I can't help you out but it might help others be able to help you with the extra info.  trying to think of anything else that might be useful
[14:43] <Azelphur> nothing else I can think of that would be useful
[14:44] <Azelphur> I think it's the whole user mapping issue on both sides, and I'm really not sure how that's supposed to work.
[14:46] <davmor2> Azelphur: daft question, that the fstab rules right you did actually mount it right?
[14:47] <Azelphur> davmor2: it is mounted, if that's what you're asking
[14:49] <Azelphur> It's really kinda frustrating, I just want everything in this folder to be owned by the user storage, very hard to get that it seems
[14:50] <diddledan> Azelphur: writable=true?
[14:50] <diddledan> (guess)
[14:50] <Azelphur> yup
[14:52] <davmor2> Azelphur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently might want to use this as a double check and then look at the server side against https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html sorry I can't be more help :)
[14:53] <diplo> Azelphur: you need to create a samba user as well yeah ? so smbpasswd -a storage
[14:53] <diplo> passwd doesn't match with samba users
[14:53] <Azelphur> I already have one created, I used system-config-samba for it
[14:54] <diplo> Never used it :)
[14:56] <Azelphur> it's so strange, it creates the file even though it says permission denied, I can rm the file, but I can't nano the file
[14:57] <Azelphur> :/
[14:59] <davmor2> Azelphur: that sounds like user permissions issue on the server or with samba
[14:59] <Azelphur> davmor2: indeed, I figured that much out
[15:04] <Azelphur> I'm surprised nobody has ran into setting up something like this before
[15:07] <davmor2> popey: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115731829869104895486/posts/YhNMTXLLhHf in my feed this is the post next to your remove the cat before flying :)
[15:09] <foobarry> that cat could fly in my 1/32 tiger moth
[15:10] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/hfe5z4C.jpg
[15:10] <foobarry> (not complete yet)
[15:11] <davmor2> foobarry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ popey s message