[00:00] <logan0405> Same with two finger tapping
[00:00] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Permission denied. :|
[00:01] <TJ-> Remoboth: You'll need super-user privileges to alter system files. How about this? "  P="/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/firewire"; sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/$P && sudo mv $P/*.ko /usr/local/$P  "
[00:01] <TJ-> Remoboth: that moves the files to the same path under "/usr/local/"
[00:03] <Remoboth> TJ- -  It worked!
[00:03] <adam__> genewitch, the default DM or another?
[00:03] <shingshang> what could it possibly mean if I can't ctrl+alt+f1 on the login screen (it's all black)?
[00:03] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Would you happen to know the command line entry I would use to blacklist the driver you suggested earlier?
[00:03] <TJ-> Remoboth: now you need to unload the modules that might be in memory. First check if they are with "lsmod | grep firewire"
[00:03] <shingshang> I've just purged the nvidia drivers, so it looks like it's not nvidia afte rall
[00:04] <logan0405> Just set FingerLow to 1 & High to 2... Wouldn't expect to need that high of sensitivity but it works now
[00:04] <adam__> shingshang, it could be that the driver has an invalid setting for the framebuffer. nvidia?
[00:04] <genewitch> adam__: default
[00:05] <TJ-> Remoboth: If you see modules listed then, for each, do "sudo rmmod <module-name>"
[00:05] <shingshang> adam__: yeah, but I just purged all the nvidia driver though
[00:05] <wallon> alguem do brasil?
[00:05] <TJ-> Remoboth: always remove modules that have 0 dependencies first. Any module with something depending on it cannot be unloaded from memory.
[00:06] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Returned... firewire_ohci          40409  0
[00:06] <Remoboth> firewire_core          68769  1 firewire_ohci
[00:06] <Remoboth> crc_itu_t              12707  1 firewire_core
[00:06] <TJ-> shingshang: have you tried starting with the kernel command-line option "nomodeset" ?
[00:06] <shingshang> TJ-: how do I get there?
[00:06] <TJ-> Remoboth: So remove firewire_ohci first which will no longer depend on firewire_core so you can remove it too
[00:07] <TJ-> !nomodeset | shingshang
[00:07] <Ranieri_> Hey guys. I have a GUI application on my Mac (Rosetta Stone) and I want to access it remotely on my Ubuntu laptop.
[00:07] <genewitch> Ranieri_: with sound?
[00:07] <wallon> alguem teria ai um link de aulas sobre XUBUNTU?
[00:07] <Ranieri_> genewitch: Yea, sound, images, and if possible, microphone.
[00:08] <tonyt> what ever allon said
[00:08] <shingshang> TJ-: thanks will try that
[00:08] <Remoboth> TJ- -  O.k. Both have been removed. WHat next?
[00:08] <TJ-> !pt | wallon
[00:08] <TJ-> Remoboth: nothing, you've unloaded them modules and moved them so they can't be loaded
[00:09] <Remoboth> TJ- -  Much obliged!
[00:10] <BigJ> if I have an encrypted disk could it affect the suspend process?
[00:10] <psusi> BigJ, suspend to ram?  no
[00:10] <TJ-> BigJ: Not for suspend, but possibly for Hibernate
[00:11] <BigJ> I can't get my system to wake from suspend
[00:11] <genewitch> Ranieri_:  Remmina Remote Desktop Client?
[00:11] <genewitch> Ranieri_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleRemoteDesktop
[00:11] <TJ-> Remoboth: in case the kernel gets updated you should also blacklist those 2 modules as per the link I gave you earlier
[00:11] <genewitch> Ranieri_: no idea about sound though, 90% of search results are connecting to ubuntu from mac so i'm not sure if the sound stacks are compatible even
[00:12] <Ranieri_> genewitch: Sounds familiar. I'll do some research, thanks.
[00:12] <TJ-> Remoboth: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules#Blacklisting_Modules
[00:12] <Ranieri_> genewitch: yeah :'(
[00:12] <shingshang> TJ-: that nomodeset page has broken image links all over, is it just me?
[00:13] <TJ-> shingshang: I think it's just you... are you behind a proxy maybe?
[00:14] <shingshang> not really, but there's a lot of click and discover imageshack links
[00:14] <shingshang> which I assume means it's broken?
[00:15] <shingshang> ugh, this might be hopeless, and I might have to reinstall my os after all
[00:16] <Remoboth> TJ- -  I am trying to edit the blacklist document but I am not sure how to save it...
[00:16] <Remoboth> IT opened up in the command line terminal.
[00:16] <TJ-> Remoboth: if you're using Ubuntu you might feel more comfortable using a GUI text editor. Try "gksudo gedit" which will run 'gedit' as the super-user so you can open/save system files
[00:18] <genewitch> my mouse isn't interacting with desktop windows in ubuntu 15.04; i can't click on firefox and bring it to foreground, or right click, or move windows, resize, etc. it does interact with the menu (i.e. launch firefox or open the home menu, right clicking for contextual). Default DM/WM.
[00:21] <adam__> genewitch, let's make sure the mouse buttons are registering. your issue is rather odd. open a terminal and run   xev      then move the mouse cursor inside the box (you'll see a LOT of output scrolling by, ignore that) then click. does the click register an output?
[00:21] <Remoboth> TJ- -  So I would just add " blacklist firewire_ohci " and " blacklist firewire_core " to the blacklist.config document and close it out?
[00:21] <zakedodead> should ctrl+space minimize windows on 14.04? I'm on cinnamon but I can't find it under settings-->keyboard-->shortcuts
[00:21] <zakedodead> annoying as hell in games
[00:21] <adam__> genewitch, bear in mind that xev will display a huge chunk of data for each pixel move of the mouse, so the slightest movement while clicking may fire off a stream of them
[00:22] <TJ-> Remoboth: Yes
[00:23] <genewitch> adam__: no there's no scrolling
[00:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[00:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> backed up home
[00:24] <adam__> genewitch, sounds like either the mouse is broken or not sending signals to the OS
[00:24] <adam__> here's a classic:  jiggle the cord
[00:24] <genewitch> adam__: the mouse works fine on the left side of the screen and the like top right. the middle it's not doing anything
[00:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> now how do i update
[00:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> lol
[00:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> not doing anything in the middle
[00:24] <genewitch> the desktop area
[00:25] <genewitch> but i can click "Files"
[00:25] <genewitch> And files comes up
[00:25] <genewitch> i can't click in files. this started after an update to 15.04
[00:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[00:26] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: update from what to what
[00:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> saucy to verdt
[00:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> but im think thats not possible
[00:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> im at saucy
[00:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to be at the latest lts
[00:27] <genewitch> is that 14.04?
[00:27] <Remoboth> Final issue... I have a game called "Criticalmass" listed in my start menu list that I thought I Deleted... THe problem is that no matter how many times I try to delete the icon it pops up again in " /home/USERNAME/.local/share/applications "
[00:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh whats the command to check?
[00:27] <genewitch> adam__: i rebooted and it went aaway
[00:27] <Remoboth> What can I do to finally delete this fucking application?
[00:27] <genewitch> !lts
[00:28] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/01/upgrade-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-to-ubuntu-14-04-trusty/ i usually follow a guide like this
[00:28] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: works on all my personal stuff
[00:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want vivid veret
[00:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do you find what current version your on
[00:29] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: you have to go one version at a time
[00:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> yep
[00:29] <Remoboth> Final issue... I have a game called "Criticalmass" listed in my start menu list that I thought I Deleted... THe problem is that no matter how many times I try to delete the icon it pops up again in " /home/USERNAME/.local/share/applications "
[00:29] <Remoboth> What can I do to finally delete this fucking application?
[00:29] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: in a terminal cat /etc/*release*
[00:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah im at 13.10
[00:29] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: follow that guide and reboot
[00:30] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: that will put you on latest LTS. then just do it again. that will be 14.10. then reboot. then do it again, that will be 15.04.
[00:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok.
[00:30] <adam__> Remoboth, this won't fix the root cause, but you might be able to get rid of the menu entry by chmod 0 /the/file  instead of rm
[00:31] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: you may need to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to change "Prompt=" to  normal
[00:31] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: but perhaps it already =normal
[00:32] <Remoboth> adam__ -  Damn. DIdn't work.
[00:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm how?
[00:32] <nicekiwi__> ANyone know how to add %postinstall script files to the Ubuntu Server ISO?
[00:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> genewitch, ?
[00:32] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: gksudo gedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[00:32] <adam__> Remoboth, after chmodding it, you'll want to restart the DM. something like  sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[00:32] <genewitch> the last line says "Prompt=normal"?
[00:32] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: ^
[00:32] <adam__> Remoboth, replace lightdm with whatever you're using
[00:33] <adam__> Remoboth, it'll close everything, so save any work you have going
[00:34] <Jakethepython> hello room
[00:34] <genewitch> do LTS upgrade kernels as often? that's my only complaint about ubuntu, really, recompiling all my userspace drivers :-(
[00:34] <genewitch> kernel drivers, userspace, whatever.
[00:36] <adam__> genewitch, those are supposed to resolve themselves, really. as in they should auto-rebuild on each kernel upgrade. external/binary drivers tend to mess with it, but there's a solution for that somewhere. a weekend project for you, perhaps
[00:36] <adam__> i use intel stuff on my ubuntu's, but my arch has nvidia which auto-rebuilds on kernel upgrades
[00:37] <genewitch> adam__: virtualbox drivers don't :-/ at least i always have to do it by hand
[00:37] <adam__> ah yeah i do run into that every damn time  haha
[00:37] <Anonomous> hey guys can anyone tell me how to edit the grub 2 boot screen. ubuntu is at the top followed by a mem test then the win 32 option. id like to have win 32,ubuntu then the mem test listed in that otrder. what file do iedit to do this ?
[00:37] <adam__> i wonder about a post-apt-get hook
[00:37] <shingshang> is there any particular reason why "Preparing to Install Ubuntu" part of the installation takes a long time?
[00:38] <genewitch> Anonomous: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:38] <nicekiwi__> Jakethepython, yo :)
[00:38] <shingshang> I pressed continue and it's still showing the wait mouse cursor
[00:38] <genewitch> Anonomous: be careful make a backup
[00:38] <SaviorX> guys how to update gnome to 3.18 in ubuntu 15.04
[00:38] <SaviorX> staging repository updates it to 3.16
[00:38] <adam__> shingshang, it's loading a lot of files, and if your box has poor i/o performance it can take awhile
[00:39] <genewitch> poor is relative, usually it's the CDROM fault
[00:39] <shingshang> adam__: how long is a while though? It's a brand new laptop I just got a few days ago
[00:39] <shingshang> 14.04 installed fine a few days ago, and now trying 15.04, it's stuck here
[00:39] <genewitch> shingshang: what are you installing from
[00:39] <shingshang> USB
[00:39] <genewitch> probably USB is slow
[00:39] <Jakethepython> i am trying to set up a Domain server on Ubuntu what is the best method of doing this...i want my server to serve 2 purposes. 1 is to have users that work with windows. 2) have storage for some other stuff
[00:39] <shingshang> what time frame are we talking about? It's been 2-3 minutes
[00:40] <zakedodead> is there a way other than settings->keyboard to edit keyboard combinations?
[00:40] <genewitch> shingshang: updating from 14.10 to 15.04 took ~4 hours on my machine
[00:40] <zakedodead> ctrl+space minimizes windows and its annoying in games
[00:40] <shingshang> genewitch: this is just one page of the installer though
[00:40] <shingshang> and it's not even into the partition page yet
[00:40] <genewitch> shingshang: i'd say 15 minutes
[00:40] <YaMoonSun> I had to apply a patch to my wireless driver to get it working because the version provided by the manufacturer's site isn't supported past kernel 2.x; I had it running on 3.13, but after my system upgraded to 3.16 I can't use it. Can I downgrade my kernel?
[00:40] <genewitch> is the USB drive blinking, shingshang?
[00:41] <shingshang> there's no lights on the USB
[00:41] <genewitch> YaMoonSun: if it's still installed you can usually see the old kernel in grub
[00:42] <YaMoonSun> advanced ubuntu options?
[00:43] <genewitch> YaMoonSun: like when the computer boots, the grub menu shows all the kernel versions currently installed
[00:43] <genewitch> i'm looking at my grub.cfg right now
[00:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> here we go
[00:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:45] <genewitch> Anonomous: actually you're supposed to edit stuff in /etc, but i don't know what files, looks like /etc/grub.d and /etc/default/grub
[00:45] <YaMoonSun> Not to my knowledge, but I'll check it out here in a sec
[00:46] <Waldeinsamkeit> hell yueah!!
[00:46] <Waldeinsamkeit> frick
[00:46] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: wat
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> nop
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> nvm
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> why can't i upgrade to 14.04?
[00:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> UGH!
[00:47] <Pokjiuhgtrcd> Is secureboot available on Ubuntu now?
[00:48] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: you need the do-release-upgrade thing
[00:48] <Waldeinsamkeit> how?
[00:48] <Waldeinsamkeit> please how?
[00:48] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, we copied your home directory so you could do a fresh installation instead of upgrading. upgrading will be a major pain, and you'll get done a lot quicker by fresh installing
[00:49] <adam__> you got your home directory copied over to a new drive now, yes?
[00:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[00:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh ok.
[00:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[00:49] <adam__> so now unplug the drive with the copy (just to be sure the installation leaves it alone) and do a fresh installation
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm
[00:50] <adam__> then we can plug the drive back in and copy /home/ back over to the new installation
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> best way to do a fresh instal>
[00:50] <adam__> and you wont have to re-download all the steam stuff
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> my copy speed is ten times faster then my dl speed
[00:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> what do i download?
[00:50] <adam__> the image/iso of the version you want to upgrade to would be best
[00:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[00:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the latest version of ubonto i can install
[00:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> with out more bugs then now?
[00:51] <genewitch> 15.04
[00:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh
[00:51] <genewitch> 14.04 is lts
[00:51] <adam__> if you don't upgrade often due to a slow connection, i'd recommend going with an LTS
[00:52] <Anonomous> genewitch: thx
[00:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> how to know if 32 bit or 54 bit
[00:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> i can torront things quite fast
[00:52] <adam__> and when you do the fresh installation, be sure that /home/  is on it's own partition. then next time you won't need a second drive. you can just plug the fresh installation into the existing /home/ partition
[00:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i leave my steam files on that harddrive?
[00:53] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, go with 32 if you aren't sure; it's compatible with both
[00:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> well i have a very new mother board and cpu
[00:53] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, you can if you'd like. you can run linux on one drive, and your /home/ partition on another
[00:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> im sure theres a way to check
[00:53] <adam__> you'll get a bit better performance that way too
[00:54] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: 99% sure you want 64 bit
[00:54] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit,  uname -a
[00:54] <genewitch> you can check with that tho
[00:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> same
[00:54] <genewitch> you only need 32 bit these days for specific reasons (like 512MB ram instances or whatever)
[00:54] <genewitch> or old software
[00:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhhh
[00:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> that says im 32
[00:55] <adam__> heh  well perhaps y'all, but i like these old machines i have laying around. i kind of forget where the rest of the world is
[00:55] <genewitch> it'll say X86 or X86_64
[00:55] <adam__> the output should be one line, just paste it here
[00:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> Linux sysop-Satellite-A215 3.11.0-18-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 18 21:13:28 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:55] <genewitch> i'm more curious what the cpuinfo says now haha
[00:56] <adam__> i agree
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> this os is from a different computer
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> hence the kernal issues
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> its from a 10 year old computer
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just have files on it i need
[00:56] <adam__> yeah that one would be 32bit
[00:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[00:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i check what i should be running based on my hardware
[00:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> i know what im currently running
[00:57] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: can you pastebin the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo
 how to know if 32 bit or 54 bit    coulda fooled me
[00:57] <genewitch> do like cat /proc/cpuinfo >cpudata.txt && gedit cpuinfo.txt
[00:57] <Anonomous> guys how do i find /edit ?
[00:57] <genewitch> Anonomous: wat
[00:58] <adam__> Anonomous, are you from DOS?
[00:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> model name	: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1840 @ 2.80GHz
[00:58] <Anonomous> yea :(
[00:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> which line do you need to know
[00:58] <adam__> edit will be a different command. try  nano   or   pico
[00:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes its 64 bit
[00:59] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: that's a 64 bits, it's haswell
[00:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes its haswell
[00:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> its the cheapest haswell cpu i could find
[00:59] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: haswell is 64bits
[00:59] <cliff1245> I need to share 60GB of data with a number of remote people and would like to set up some way for them to download it from an ubuntu server that I have installed in a VM sitting in my DMZ.  Does anyone have any suggestions on which application to use to serve the files?  I was thinking I could create a website or use ftp. I've never done either and was trying to pick the least difficult to install and issue some sort of authentication. I do not w
[01:00] <Waldeinsamkeit> ftp
[01:00] <genewitch> cliff1245: ftp is fine, but what don't you want?
[01:01] <Amm0n> ftp must die, use sftp :P
[01:01] <genewitch> sftp is crap for large files
[01:01] <genewitch> that's like saying IRC is crap switch to FB chat
[01:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubuntu-15.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent    23-Apr-2015 10:54   24K  Server install image for 64-bit PC (AMD64) computers (BitTorrent download)
[01:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> so is that the 64 bit one i need?
[01:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> im not amd im intel...
[01:01] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: no not server, you want desktop
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent   23-Apr-2015 10:50   43K  Desktop image for 64-bit PC (AMD64) computers (BitTorrent download)
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> yess lol
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> thanks
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> tahts the one?
[01:02] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: intel's X64 is something else, X86_64 is called amd64, it's just a naming convention
[01:02] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: that's what i am running
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[01:02] <genewitch> so on intel i7 :-D
[01:02] <Anonomous> guys how do i find /edit ?
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh
[01:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> its only 1.15 gb
[01:02] <genewitch> Anonomous: what are you trying to edit
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> this will not take that long
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> you guys should all seed it ;P
[01:03] <Anonomous> umm grub file !
[01:03] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: it's got webseeds
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[01:03] <zykotick9> Amm0n: "ftp must die" <- so true
[01:03] <genewitch> adam__: is there a bot entry for rearranging grub
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> im going to go play some tf2
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> or portal
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> or something
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> with my friends
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill be back when this is downloaded and instaled
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> do i need a flashdrive?
[01:03] <genewitch> SEE YOU IN FIVE HOURS
[01:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have no cd drive
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> naw it should only take like one hour
[01:04] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: then yes, you need a flash drive
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> at most
[01:04] <cliff1245> Thanks!  Do you think I should install vsftp?
[01:04] <genewitch> and unetbootin
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i use a harddrive?
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have many harddrives
[01:04] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: not really
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i just mount it to a thrid harddrive?
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh ok.
[01:04] <Anonomous> genewitch
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> flashdrive it is
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill hunt one down
[01:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> cya
[01:04] <genewitch> Waldeinsamkeit: unetbootin
[01:05] <Thesaurus> I'm trying to mount the data part of a CD-ROM that is identified as an audio disc.  I've tried on a windows PC and a Mac and every system I've tried can only see the CD-Audio part
[01:05] <Thesaurus> I've tried to mount as iso9660 as well http://pastebin.centos.org/28946/raw/
[01:05] <genewitch> Anonomous: i'm not really having enough time to walk through a grub edit with you i am hoping that there's a FAQ or help page for it
[01:05] <zykotick9> unetbootin <- know to cause issues with hybrid isos (like ubuntu's), use with care...
[01:05] <genewitch> zykotick9: when did unetbootin stop working for ubuntu?
[01:05] <cliff1245> Has anyone used vsftp?
[01:05] <Anonomous> i just want to knnow were to find edit folder
[01:05] <Pokjiuhgtrcd> (mute)
[01:05] <zykotick9> genewitch: oh it works... sometimes...
[01:05] <genewitch> because it has a special entry for ubuntu to have non-volatile storage even
[01:06] <genewitch> Anonomous: there's no edit folder
[01:06] <Anonomous> well  the edit dir
[01:06] <zykotick9> genewitch: i actually had one case where unetbootin saved me!  and default ubuntu/debian iso's failed - but that was a very particular case...  <- but still, i'd suggest avoiding unetbootin where possible
[01:06] <genewitch> zykotick9: dd?
[01:07] <hwt62vd> Anonomous: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[01:07] <zykotick9> genewitch: i like cp/cat better, but dd works...
[01:07] <genewitch> i always "burn" flash drives on windows where it works fine
[01:07] <genewitch> i know the linux version has some issues
[01:07] <genewitch> especially when trying to boot on older hardware
[01:07] <Bashing-om> Anonomous: ?? There is no edit folder in a default install of 'buntus . What is your goal here ?
[01:07] <cliff1245> Also, if I left the server listening to the public, how vulnerable would I be to having an attacker get into the server if I used ftp??
[01:08] <genewitch> cliff1245: 100%
[01:08] <Anonomous> hey guys can anyone tell me how to edit the grub 2 boot screen. ubuntu is at the top followed by a mem test then the win 32 option. id like to have win 32,ubuntu then the mem test listed in that otrder. what file do iedit to do this ?
[01:09] <genewitch> cliff1245: this is on the DMZ? why do you care if someone gets in?
[01:09] <zykotick9> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[01:09] <Anonomous> that is my goal
[01:09] <Anonomous> gut i got th emanual now. seems fairly short and not too coplicated. some ligt reading for bed
[01:09] <cliff1245> I don't want the data being disseminated.
[01:10] <genewitch> cliff1245: sneakernet
[01:10] <cliff1245> not possible.
[01:10] <genewitch> cliff1245: then you need to restrict by IP
[01:11] <adam__> oh man we got a storm brewing over here. may get booted offline. i'm catching up on old mesg now
[01:11] <cliff1245> It's unknown. I was recommended to try sftp?
[01:11] <genewitch> cliff1245: i mean you can write a bash script that is a CGI for like lighttpd or something, you give out a URL, that adds a firewall rule to the DMZ ftpd server. but really
[01:11] <genewitch> cliff1245: you want to restrict by IP
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Anonomous: Then you want to edit the "/etc/default/grub' file . After viewing " /boot/grub/grub.cfg' and counting the menu enties there.
[01:11] <genewitch> you can do that manually. or automate it
[01:11] <Anonomous> Bashing-om: i want to edit the boot screen of grub
[01:12] <Bashing-om> !grub | ano
[01:12] <genewitch> Bashing-om: thank you sir
[01:12] <genewitch> Anonomous: you're probably using grub2
[01:12] <Anonomous> genewitch: yeup
[01:12] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: actually, i think customizing the menu requires editing /etc/grub.d/ files...
[01:13] <zykotick9> ^ recalls it being a big PITA...
[01:13] <genewitch> it's just re-arranging it. really, what he wants is to change the default entry
[01:13] <Anonomous> ahh its not /edit its /etc
[01:13] <genewitch> he wants windows to be the default entry
[01:14] <zykotick9> genewitch: oh, just setting one entry as default is easy, and in Bashing-om's suggested /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[01:14] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Most of the time .. but for the menu entry one can set it in "GRUB_DEFAULT=0 ' line of /etc/default/grub . Then as always run 'sudo update-grub' for the change to propagate.
[01:15] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: ya, sorry.  see above ;)
[01:15] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: :) . I be slow !
[01:15] <genewitch> Anonomous: see what Bashing-om said, you want to set windows to default
[01:16] <genewitch> okay i've paid my penance for asking a dumb question now (hrr reboot to fix)
[01:16] <genewitch> have a good one, fellas.
[01:17] <Jakethepython> I am having trouble installing ubuntu server on my server..it gets to install grub and has a fatal error
[01:18] <adam__> genewitch, i know linux, but this whole irc thing is sort of new to me. i hadn't known of those bots until tonight
[01:18] <drocsid>  when I remove a package file, I notice that it leaves behind some of the configuration. What if I want to completly remove the package and config files. I'm asking because I tried removing them manually, but now when I reinstall the packate, dpkg is not installing the init scripts included with the package.
[01:19] <medfly> help I want to manually configure my connection and ubuntu is overriding my shit what do I need to kill for it to work
[01:19] <medfly> I got a goat ready :D
[01:19] <hwt62vd> drocsid: try purge rather than remove, however you generally do not need to reinstall.
[01:21] <drocsid> hwt62vd: I will try that, thanks
[01:21] <adam__> medfly, check the files in /etc/network/
[01:22] <medfly> nvm I stopped the network-manager service I think it works
[01:22] <zykotick9> drocsid: actually, lesson is "don't delete stuff manually!", but here is #debian's "confmiss" factoid http://paste.ubuntu.com/11753982/
[01:22] <Bashing-om> drocsid: "remove' will not remove config files by design, 'purge' does that - by design .
[01:22] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: BUT, manually removing is something else!
[01:23] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Yeah ! Now ya gone and made the package manager very UNhappy .
[01:23] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: exactly!
[01:25] <wolftune> hey everyone, I have some simple questions: I want to use *only* my new 250GB SSD, but my computer *keeps* using its little 25GB built-in SSD as /
[01:25]  * zykotick9 also notes, ".. apt-get purge foo" doesn't touch the config files in ~
[01:25] <wolftune> so, how do I check if my new SSD has boot set correctly?
[01:26] <god_phantom> wolftune: when you install, are you selecting the correct SSD?
[01:26] <wolftune> god_phantom: this is actually a clone situation, I didn't reinstall
[01:26] <wolftune> god_phantom: I know that would be cleanest, but I'm really close to having everything working already
[01:26] <god_phantom> i understand
[01:27] <wolftune> it's all cloned, the system works, I made symlinks so everything functions
[01:27] <Bashing-om> wolftune: The file system table (fstab). ' cat /etc/fstab ' and see what file systems are booted .
[01:27] <wolftune> but I want to stop using the internal SSD (mainly because in this process, I learned that it is the source of a connection problem in the hardware)
[01:27] <zykotick9> wolftune: grub may also be an issue...
[01:28] <wolftune> zykotick9: yes
[01:28] <wolftune> Bashing-om: I've been editing fstab, problem is: I have a / set of files on the little SSD and a / set cloned to the larger SSD, only I changed fstab on each trying to get this working
[01:28] <wolftune> so, there are three things that *should* be all I need to touch now: boot, grub, fstab
[01:28] <god_phantom> yeah was gonna say grub.conf
[01:29] <wolftune> I figured I'd start at the beginning… doesn't the new drive need a /boot ? Can I check if it does? Or am I confused?
[01:29] <adam__> wolftune,  parted -l
[01:30] <wolftune> adam__: I get nothing from that
[01:31] <Bashing-om> wolftune: "sudo fdisk -lu ; df -h ; sudo blkid " then inspect '/etc/fstab' and ' /boot/grub/grub.cfg' that they all agree with the UUIDs you want to use .
[01:31] <Loshki_> wolftune: depending on your version, there are 3 places you need to look: Grub config files, /etc/fstab, and the master boot record. Be sure to check uuids if they're in use. And run the bootinfoscript (http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/).
[01:31] <mbeacom> Good evening all! Would anyone happen to know why, after resizing my ubuntu server 14.04.2 ext4 partition from 50 GB to 100 GB using fdisk and then resize2fs to expand the FS... The FS states it is expanded, but the free space doesn't reflect the change.
[01:31] <wolftune> Bashing-om: note: with the person who was helping me, I decided to not bother partitioning, so I went with the default msdos — so I have no UUIDs
[01:31] <rypervenche> mbeacom: Did you restart during the process and was it your root file system?
[01:32] <wolftune> that's my understanding
[01:32] <wolftune> Loshki_: see my comment just now: I ended up using msdos, so I don't think that does UUID…
[01:32] <mbeacom> rypervenche: It was indeed my root file system.  I rebooted after the initial fdisk resize, after the reboot, I did a resize2fs, it expanded, rebooted, still 50 G :D
[01:32] <Loshki_> wolftune: Nevertheless, if you pastebin the output of bootinfoscript it should tell us tons.
[01:32] <wolftune> Loshki_: okay
[01:33] <Loshki_> mbeacom: some special reason you didn't use gparted?
[01:33] <TJ-> Loshki_: On a server!?
[01:34] <mbeacom> Loshki_: I am running the server on rackspace with no GUI.
[01:34] <medfly> well I have no idea if it works but it hasn't ended yet
[01:34] <medfly> lol
[01:34] <wolftune> Loshki_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754033/
[01:34] <medfly> wrong channel sorry
[01:35] <mbeacom> Resizing the filesystem on /dev/xvdb1 to 26214144 (4k) blocks. The filesystem on /dev/xvdb1 is now 26214144 blocks long.
[01:35] <Anonomous> guys how do i access /etc dir ?
[01:35] <TJ-> mbeacom: what does dumpe2fs report?
[01:35] <YaMoonSun> When I used advanced ubuntu options from grub, my mouse and keyboard won't work, and the resolution isn't full screen anymore. With or without recovery mode.
[01:35] <YaMoonSun> I downgraded the kernel from within ubuntu once, but I forget the command.
[01:35] <wolftune> Loshki_: for reference, the sdb is the little drive I want to ignore, the main drive is sda
[01:36] <TJ-> mbeacom: Are you resizing it on the Xen host or in the guest?
[01:37] <wolftune> the reason I made /mount is so that I would get the main drive at all given that it keeps booting with sdb
[01:37] <mbeacom>  TJ-: I am resizing the volume in the guest. I have two volumes attached to the guest.  The original 50 G SDD volume and a cloned 100G volume that has been extended.
[01:38] <hplc> howto limit a process max usage of cpu and / or memory?
[01:38] <wolftune> the commented out UUIDs in the fstab is from my previous set up
[01:38] <TJ-> mbeacom: check what dumpe2fs reports on the file-system
[01:38] <mbeacom> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/AG9ajgDT
[01:39] <Bashing-om> wolftune: You will allways have UUIDs . If I am to assist I will want to see what we are working with . pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ; df-h ; sudo blkid ; cat /etc/fstab ' .
[01:39] <TJ-> mbeacom: "Free blocks:              13479619"
[01:39] <xyzzy__> Gnome 3 is the shiz. Just thought I'd put that out there.
[01:39] <medfly> I thought people hate it and think it's unpolished and isn't meant to be used by humans
[01:40] <medfly> editor wars
[01:40] <medfly> i use xmonad
[01:40] <mbeacom> TJ-: Is there a reason this wouldn't be reflected in df -h ?
[01:40] <xyzzy__> Openbox is fun too
[01:40] <medfly> you know a WM is good when you have to edit the config before your first launch to use it
[01:40] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay, I guess I misunderstood the issues when I was choosing the partition initial set up, anyway, here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754059/
[01:41] <mbeacom> TJ-: df -h is displaying 50G 47G 0 100% /
[01:41] <wolftune> Bashing-om: as I posted otherwise just now, the commented out stuff relates to my previous set up with an old drive (with multiple partitions)
[01:41] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Look'n .. be advised I have ISP issues presently .. loosing connection . I will do what I can .
[01:41] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay, thanks
[01:42] <TJ-> mbeacom: Are you sure the volume you think is mounted as / is that one? If you cloned them the UUIDs will be the same
[01:42] <medfly> xyzzy__: my boyfriend has some weird hate for Gnome 3 that I have yet to understand. that would require listening to him tak about it.
[01:42] <mbeacom> TJ-: The mounted file system is /dev/xvdb1 at /.  /dev/xvda1 was my original / device.
[01:43] <TJ-> mbeacom: is the fstab using device nodes not UUIDs then? can you show me "cat /proc/mounts" ?
[01:44] <mbeacom> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/cT1L6rzM
[01:44] <mbeacom> TJ-: fstab is indeed using device nodes and not UUIDs.
[01:44] <mablae> just run it
[01:44] <Techspectre> Is there a way to do a fresh installation without wiping GRUB?
[01:44] <TJ-> mbeacom: the mount point for / is a UUID: check its symlink device: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/02d3bbc2-d713-4a02-a1c2-7f83f61299a2"
[01:45] <mablae> * wrong tab, sorry
[01:45] <mbeacom> TJ-: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jun 22 01:25 /dev/disk/by-uuid/02d3bbc2-d713-4a02-a1c2-7f83f61299a2 -> ../../xvdb1
[01:46] <wolftune> Bashing-om: Loshki_: for reference, when I boot up, I see Grub menu and it lets me choose sda1 as the option, but even so, when I end up running it, sdb is where root is… :P
[01:46] <TJ-> mbeacom: and now show me "dumpe2fs /dev/xvda1 | grep UUID"
[01:46] <Jakethepython>  i am getting unable to install GRUB /dev/****
[01:46] <mbeacom> TJ-: Oh boy. hah...  Filesystem UUID:          02d3bbc2-d713-4a02-a1c2-7f83f61299a2
[01:47] <TJ-> mbeacom: As I said, you've cloned the file-systems so they have the same UUID ... so at boot-time /dev/xvda1 is probably discovered first and used as / but then xvdb1 is found and replaces the symlink
[01:47] <Jakethepython> sorry grub-install /dev/126
[01:48] <TJ-> mbeacom: use "tune2fs -U random /dev/xda1" to change that UUID and then reboot
[01:49] <Loshki_> wolftune: sdb1's etc/fstab looks bad. It should mount to / ?
[01:49] <Loshki_> wolftune: line 808 in your paste.
[01:49] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Let's get a usable fstab set up to use that 250 gig hard drive . Is that your desire ? As the SSD will be much faster to house the operating system . But the SSD is partitioned GPT and we need another tool to look at it .
[01:50] <wolftune> Bashing-om: both are SSDs, one is a built-in tiny thing and it is having *connection* problems where the computer sometimes doesn't recognize it so everything crashes. tl;dr: yes, I want to use only the 250GB drive
[01:50] <Loshki_> TJ-: it never occurred to me that there wouldn't be room on a server these days for X11 client libraries. That said, gparted is probably the only gui worth it's weight.
[01:50] <mbeacom> TJ-: Thank you very much!  Now I just need to figure out why xvda1 is still being mounted automatically when xvdb1 is set in /etc/fstab !
[01:51] <wolftune> Loshki_: there's no way to have my system working if I have the fstab on sdb mount sda to / — what happened when I tried that was that sdb was *still* / but then I had no /home!
[01:51] <wolftune> Loshki_: the little sdb has only root but no /home /opt or /tmp
[01:51] <Bashing-om> wolftune: K, What is happening is that grub is not configured to boot the correct /boot directory / We get fstab usable and I do suggest we (RE-)install grub from a liveDVD .
[01:51] <TJ-> mbeacom: has the grub boot line been updated? If GRUB is specifying the root= using the UUID then it's understandable
[01:51] <wolftune> Loshki_: so, to get /home /opt and /tmp, I had to link to those mounted on sda
[01:52] <hplc> howto limit a process max usage of cpu and / or memory?
[01:52] <wolftune> Bashing-om: yeah, I can reinstall grub, I agree that the issue is that grub is not correctly using sda for /boot — it goes to sdb no matter what I do
[01:52] <TJ-> Loshki_: Using a GUI on a *nix server for administration is a great way to get fired, as well as not being taken seriously
[01:53] <Loshki_> TJ-: mere prejudice. It's not like you're running k3b or the gimp.
[01:53] <TJ-> Loshki_: not at all. The more libraries and tools installed the greater the attack surface for malicious software, and the Xorg stack is large
[01:54] <mbeacom> TJ-: Very odd...  `/dev/xvdb1      /               ext4    errors=remount-ro,noatime,barrier=0 0       1` is the only entry in /etc/fstab
[01:54] <wolftune> Loshki_: Bashing-om: here's the fstab already on sda, the drive I *want* to be using: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754120/
[01:54] <Loshki_> wolftune: dinner time. Will look forward to reading how it turns out...
[01:54] <TJ-> mbeacon but update-grub will translate that into a UUID ... look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[01:55] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Checking the new fstab . gimme a bit .
[01:58] <Bashing-om> wolftune: In small steps so you understand . the entry " 82174999-4881-4475-8d12-25652dc0db33" tells the system to boot -> /dev/sdb1: UUID="82174999-4881-4475-8d12-25652dc0db33" . OK, so we change that entry to point to sda1's UUID .. with me ?
[01:58] <wolftune> Bashing-om: sure
[01:59] <grinchier> you guys doing cryptab?  feel free to ignore me cause i came in late
[01:59] <wolftune> Bashing-om: but I need to figure out sda1's UUID right?
[02:00] <adam__> wolftune, use blkid for that
[02:00] <adam__> sudo, if needed
[02:00] <grinchier> ^
[02:01] <Squarism> If i want to advance my ubuntu desktop user - what to do
[02:01] <Squarism> user skill
[02:01] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Change " / was on /dev/sdb1 during installation ' to " / is on /dev/sda1 as of 21jun15 and replace the UUID 82174999-4881-4475-8d12-25652dc0db33 on the next line with 16500500-eff4-408e-846b-52717c571b4d . Make sure you UNcommnet this line. Next we do the swap partition assignment.
[02:03] <wolftune> Bashing-om: I made that change (well I left the old lines commented, but I made the active line into what you said)
[02:03] <wolftune> Bashing-om: ready to do the swap assignment then
[02:03] <wolftune> Bashing-om: all this is on the fstab that lives on sda1 of course
[02:04] <mbeacom> TJ-: Usage of /:   47.7% of 98.30GB :D  Thanks!
[02:04] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Documentation for any edit is always important - at some later time. I am preparing the next edit for swap. stand by.
[02:04] <TJ-> mbeacom: easy when you've seen it before :)
[02:04] <Squarism> im a programmer.. so im sorta fluent in bash but i do lack skills in OS workings. Really need to get to the next level with ubuntu desktop (and server).. become more of a power user so to speak
[02:05] <wolftune> Bashing-om: agreed re: docs, I did make a line explaining the situation and the date
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[02:05] <adam__> SupaYoshi, cli is your friend
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i got the iso downloaded
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> and my fiels backed up
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i have no flash driv3e
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> anywhere in the house
[02:05] <adam__> oh tab fail.  Squarism cli is your friend
[02:05] <Waldeinsamkeit> nor do i have a cd drive in my computer
[02:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> soooo
[02:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> any ideas?
[02:06] <Squarism> adam__, CLI = bash right?
[02:06] <adam__> Squarism, cli is 'command line interface'
[02:06] <adam__> learn how to get fancy with it, and then put those commands into a bash script for awesomeness
[02:07] <Bashing-om> wolftune: change " # swap was on /dev/sda9 " to " # swap is on /dev/sda2 as of 21jun15"  and the next line change " 438d66a9-3409-4433-b18a-92b6d483243b ' to " ca9f7c69-96e7-4501-81bc-2b7f7b87e49b " UNcomment this line.
[02:07] <Squarism> adam__, im down with bash / terminal / cli... i think i should learn run levels / services / directory layouts / automated reinstall / api's
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> please guys help me install ubontu to my computer
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> i backed up my home
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> and downlaoded the iso
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have no flash drive or cd drive htough
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> so how do i do this?>
[02:08] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, without usb or cdrom, options are minimal. give us time to find something, if we can at all
[02:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok.
[02:09] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: Be careful not to fill the channel with your issue, try to consolidate the comments.
[02:09] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok sorry
[02:09] <hwt62vd> we've al ben there ;)
[02:09] <adam__> Squarism, you'll learn quickest by messing up numerous installations haha    perhaps virtual machines can help ease the pain of reinstalling all the time as you go
[02:10] <grinchier> i don't know if you guys are doing cryptswap,  but the way i got it working,  was just suding /dev/sdx  instead of uuid in crypttab
[02:10] <grinchier> you can't hibernate properly without doing the password prompt setup though
[02:10] <Squarism> adam__, haha.. exactly what i want to avoid.. i dont dare reinstall
[02:10] <Loshki_> Waldeinsamkeit: if you already have grub, newer versions will boot from an on-disk iso. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[02:10] <grinchier> *adding
[02:11] <Squarism> adam__, yep.. definently should look into vagrant and such
[02:11] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay done, thanks
[02:12] <wolftune> Bashing-om: So, that seems like a good fstab file now
[02:13] <Guest70817> hi
[02:13] <wolftune> Bashing-om: should I just try rebooting or should I now do something with grub (maybe on a live USB boot)?
[02:13] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Next Advise please to the best of your knowlege that your /home resides within the install that is presently 'sda1' .
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok guys
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have three harddrives in my comp
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> one which is not being used at all
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> could i just wipe that or something
[02:14] <Waldeinsamkeit> and mount the iso there and boot from it?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> wolftune: ^^ If my last is true that /home is on sda1 install then remove all the symlinks you have made . As we will re-install grub . and no other links will be required . IF /home is also included on 'sda1' .
[02:15] <wolftune> Bashing-om: yes, /home is on sda1
[02:15] <wolftune> Bashing-om: the symlinks are *only* on sdb2 though, so can't I just leave them alone?
[02:16] <wolftune> Bashing-om: to clarify, the fstab that lives on sdb2 says to mount sda1 to /mount and the symlinks are all linking /home to /mount/home etc.
[02:17] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Then re,move the symlinks to everything. we will not need them . Then we re-install grub from a liveDVD . A good chance will be good 'nuff, else we step up to a chroot/purg/install routine .// right now sdb is not in the picture . Not even to be considered .
[02:17] <wolftune> Bashing-om: er I meant sdb1
[02:18] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay, I'm just hesitant because everything is working right now, except being tied to the wonky little drive…
[02:18] <wolftune> Bashing-om: okay, I will remove the symlinks
[02:18] <Bashing-om> wolftune: To be safe and sure, show me the current '/e/tc/fstab' file that is on sda1 .
[02:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[02:18] <wolftune> Bashing-om: hmm, but they are being used right now… I guess I should remove after rebooting with USB stick?
[02:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i added one more hd to my computer
[02:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> seems its partinted into two seperate 10 gb partions
[02:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> and a 219 gb partion
[02:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> could i set that 300 gb hard drive up to boot my iso off of?
[02:20] <wolftune> Bashing-om: current fstab on sda1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754211/
[02:21] <wolftune> Bashing-om: when you say ok, I'll reboot with USB
[02:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello?
[02:21] <Bashing-om> wolftune: checking . standby.
[02:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need something to manage partitions
[02:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> and to wipe my harddrive with
[02:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> and then something to mount my iso to it
[02:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> soo i can boot from it
[02:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> seems like somehow i can make a spare hard drive work as a flashdrive
[02:23] <daeo> I am trying to find some help with upgrading/updating firmware on an udoo which run udoobuntu.  I know this is not the same distro, but was wondering in general, how does one upgrade firmware for sata controllers?
[02:24] <Bashing-om> wolftune: HUH ?? I see no changes ! Did you not save the file when you made the directed changes ???
[02:25] <wolftune> Bashing-om: all the lines in the top are the same, but they are all commented. The active lines are added at the bottom
[02:26] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Never themind .. I see thwem I see them .. I just got dis-cumbulated. back to checking . sorry .
[02:26] <wolftune> 'sokay, sorry for my quirks in not following your instructions 100%
[02:27] <Deihmos> is there a way to change the colors of window icon from brown?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Is OK, file looks good . It is your system we do it your way . OK, let's boot the liveUSB . Change the boot order in bios for the USB . Advise when ready for next .
[02:28] <Jakethepython> Hello Room, i am trying to set up a raid 1 system the setup is as follows HDD 1 System hdd 150GB HDD2,3 RAID 1 250GB space
[02:28] <wolftune> Bashing-om: will take some minutes to reboot, back soon
[02:29] <Bashing-om> wolftune: If my ISP holds up, I will be here .
[02:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> hey
[02:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i grow my partition with disks
[02:32] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: you have to have the partitions unmounted, are they?
[02:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[02:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> i found some new hardrives
[02:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> now maby i can mount my iso to them and install new os
[02:32] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: I use gparted so can't help with this app, just checking your close.
[02:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> im downloading gparted right now
[02:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubutuns built in partion manger sucks
[02:33] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: You need to get a flash drive, or a disc reader, a flash with the live is your best tool always to have around.
[02:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> no flashdrive here
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> anywhere
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> and its 9:34
[02:34] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: Yes we all know that.
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> and my mom is most certnuly not going to get one
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> so im stuck
[02:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> with no flashdrives
[02:35] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: Your stuck and exspecting us to help you. Your among many whom have come here in a similiar predicament, not much help generally.
[02:35] <hwt62vd> yo don't hand the doctor a pocket knife for surgery
[02:38] <Bashing-om> hwt62vd: OH contrare . How many times have I picked up a flat river rock to sharpen my pocket knife to cut out an embedded fish hook ?
[02:38] <hwt62vd> no idea
[02:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[02:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> i got gparted
[02:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i merge partiioons with it?
[02:39] <cfhowlett> Waldeinsamkeit, they have to be physically next to each other to merge, so you probably have to move things first
[02:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> what do you mean?
[02:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> in gparted i have fat32 unallocated and ext4
[02:39] <cfhowlett> Waldeinsamkeit, 1, 3, 2 must be 1, 2, 3
[02:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to merge unalloc ated with ext4
[02:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh ok
[02:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have 28.61 on ynallocated space
[02:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> all my hard drives have unallocated space
[02:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i get rid of it?
[02:41] <cfhowlett> Waldeinsamkeit, merge with your /home partition
[02:41] <hwt62vd> Waldeinsamkeit: small areas between partitions?
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah
[02:41] <hwt62vd> bingo
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> when i delted partitions
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> i now have left overs
[02:41] <cfhowlett> Waldeinsamkeit, space between parts is normal
[02:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to merge those into my main partition
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> i had one of my hardives partion into three parts for whatever unknow reason
[02:42] <adam__> Waldeinsamkeit, i've always wanted to as well, and haven't foudn a way. i guess it's normal behavior, but the reason behind it baffles me
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> now it has 28.61 gb of unallocated  unused space
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> thats 30 gb of unused space...
[02:42] <adam__> that's... a lot of unallocated space. nvm what i just said
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> i know what your talking about
[02:42] <adam__> i always see like 1mb bits
[02:42] <adam__> ay
[02:42] <adam__> ya*
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> this is not the same thing
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> i had two huge partions
[02:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> and i delete one
[02:43] <adam__> sorry, i'm going back and forth in front of the computer and not
[02:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> now i have a left over one
[02:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i merge it back into my main one
[02:43] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: hi it's wolftune
[02:43] <adam__> you would actually resize your main one
[02:43] <adam__> gparted should be able to expand it
[02:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes to what?
[02:43] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: I'm on the USB boot now
[02:43] <adam__> gparted will have a dialog where you can drag-drop the partition size a bit
[02:44] <adam__> that should make it (  current size + unallocated size )
[02:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> i see i see
[02:44] <adam__> if you use it all
[02:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes yes very usefull
[02:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> wtf
[02:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> it takes two hours?
[02:45] <adam__> it can vary. what filesystem is that again?
[02:45] <adam__> like... ext4/3
[02:45] <Waldeinsamkeit> ext4
[02:46] <Waldeinsamkeit> 2 hours....
[02:46] <Waldeinsamkeit> i might as just go to bed...
[02:46] <adam__> i suppose it'll just take that long then. it does do some extra stuff, like a full filesystem check, then expand, fs check again, move files, ect
[02:46] <adam__> i'm not nerdy enough for those details, but yeah it takes what it takes
[02:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[02:47] <adam__> the post-operation estimates can be way off, though
[02:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> cya guys
[02:47] <Bashing-om> ksx4system: K, get us a terminal . and in terminal let'sa check what is on sda1 . 1st ,ount that partition : ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ' then let's "look" ' ls -al /mnt/vmlinuz* ; ls -al /mnt/home/<your_user_name> ' . If those are positive we proceed .
[02:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill do this tommrow
[02:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> and ill get a flashdrive...
[02:52] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: I have vmlinuz
[02:52] <kxstudio> oh wait hmm
[02:53] <Bashing-om> ksx4system: K
[02:54] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: sidenote kxstudio != ksx4system
[02:54] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: ok, yea, all is present
[02:55] <leo__> hello?
[02:55] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Thak goodness, someone has my back ! .
[02:55] <leo__> someone say "hi" if you can hear me.
[02:56] <kxstudio> leo__: hi
[02:56] <leo__> first irc session :D
[02:56] <kxstudio> leo__: ever?
[02:56] <BuzzardBuzz> hi leo_ :)
[02:56] <leo__> since 90's :D
[02:56] <kxstudio> leo__: well, welcome
[02:57] <grinchier> leo__: leo!!
[02:57] <BuzzardBuzz> wow, you been gone for awhile, welcome back
[02:58] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: OK, let's install grub ' sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda ; sudo umount /mnt ' . Done here . reboot and set as 1st boot priority that 1st haed drive as priority number 1 . Please tell me you now boot ubuntu .
[02:58] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: for reference, there are zero systems connected that aren't Ubuntu, so there's nothing else that I could boot ;)
[02:59] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: okay restarting now
[03:00] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: :) . Put a smile on our face and tell me we boot that 1st hard drive .
[03:01] <BigJ> 14.10 is the latest stable version?
[03:01] <zykotick9> BigJ: i look at the date and think 15.04 should exist...
[03:02] <BigJ> how can you go from 14.10 to 15.04?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> BigJ: No, latest release is 15.04 .. latest LTS release is 14.04 .
[03:04] <Bashing-om> BigJ: System is fully updated, upgraded, All PPA are disabled, inclusive of proprietary drivers, and in software sources that "next release' is set .
[03:05] <zykotick9> is 15.05 the fist ubuntu with systemd?
[03:05] <zykotick9> s/15.05/15.04/
[03:06] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Yes indeed, Going to have to do some homework to catch up on systemd .
[03:06] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: cool, thanks.
[03:06]  * zykotick9 notes systemd is different... ;)
[03:07] <BigJ> Bashing-om: I was running 15.04 but I'm having a problem with waking on suspend and 14.10 is the latest version suppourted by the intel graphics installer which I am hoping will solve the problem if I install the driver
[03:09] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: no go :(
[03:09] <zykotick9> oh... is hibernate renabled by default in 15.04?  "systemctl hibernate" <- perhaps even without sudo?! might hibernate systems <warning!>
[03:10] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: what happens is, I end up just at the grub> prompt
[03:10] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: this happened earlier today and someone helping got me to do some things at the prompt which resulted in the situation I had (I could work, but sdb was / etc)
[03:11] <kxstudio> agh, they left, hope they come back!
[03:12] <oldboy1> hey all
[03:12] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: you're back :) did you get that last couple messages?
[03:13] <stiv2k> how do i delete orphaned entries in my applications menu?
[03:13] <stiv2k> i uninstalled wine, but i still have a 'wine' directory in my applications menu
[03:14] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: No I did not get them .. my ISP dropped me . Say again all after XX:05 time .
[03:14] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: what happens is, I end up just at the grub> prompt
[03:14] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: this happened earlier today and someone helping got me to do some things at the prompt which resulted in the situation I had (I could work, but sdb was / etc)
[03:14] <zykotick9> stiv2k: using apt to remove/purge something doesn't touch your home folder!  i but that's what's left over...
[03:14] <stiv2k> zykotick9: right
[03:14] <stiv2k> zykotick9: soo.... how do i fix it?
[03:14] <oldboy1> stiv2k: try this for i in {/usr,~/.local}/share/applications/*.desktop; do which $(grep -Poh '(?<=Exec=).*?( |$)' $i) > /dev/null || echo $i; done
[03:15] <stiv2k> oldboy1:  i tried that, but it did not list anything about wine
[03:15] <zykotick9> stiv2k: ? <- with i knew.  good luck.
[03:15] <zykotick9> s/with/wish/
[03:16] <rockstar__> is there any channel for graph theory and distributed systems? rockstar__
[03:16] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: That ending up at a grub prompt is gub can not find the proper config files. We have a couple of things we can do . I do prefer to try and boot this system from the grub > prompt and once booted try and repair grub .
[03:16] <stiv2k> oldboy1: i got it
[03:17] <stiv2k> tweaked the command to get every file, not just *.desktop
[03:18] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: I do have possibly another computer I could use so I could try that if it's really better way to go
[03:18] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: Are you presently at that grub > prompt ?
[03:18] <kxstudio> kxstudio: I.e. another system so I can still chat while dealing with that
[03:18] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: no, I'm back on the USB boot
[03:19] <OrangeMan>    /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER OrangeMan krjluhhshcqq
[03:20] <xangua> lkuagdsyuliftq
[03:21] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: ISP acting up again . The surer thing is to purge reinstall grub from the liveUSB in a full CHroot routine . But I am afraid I will loose you due to my ISP dropping connection . All we need to do is insure that grub can find it's config files .
[03:22] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: I can use the other computer and go back to the grub prompt or do whatever here, whatever you advise
[03:23] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: I am the more at ease to boot up the install from the grub > prompt . Otherwise I might leave you dangling and really mess up the system . Let's take the safer non-invasive course and boot frpm the grub > prompt .
[03:24] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: what about this option? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:29] <wolft> Bashing-om: hi, I'm on webchat on another computer now, could restart to grub prompt. I could also try that boot-repair utility if you think that's okay
[03:31] <shingshang> hmm, somehow when I'm trying to install freeglut3-dev, apt complains that I have unmet dependencies (gnome-cnotrol-center depends on libcheese-gtk23)
[03:31] <shingshang> but I have both of those installed?
[03:31] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: That is a viable option, but not advised in your case as we have 2 hard drives and grub will be installed to both and then we run into recursive netries in grub.cfg . If you know what you are doing and/or are carefull in the maunaul mode you can direct thsat grub be installed to 'sda' only .
[03:33] <shingshang> hmm, looks like a confirmed ubuntu bug, never mind
[03:33] <dupingping> The awesome software is published, You can use the trial version of Sticky Notes.
[03:33] <dupingping> http://korsoftware.com
[03:33] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: you could advise me in using that with manual options or we could go back to grub prompt, whichever you think
[03:34] <Bashing-om> kxstudio: I do prefer to "try" and boot from the grub > prompt . not at all invasive if we fail .
[03:34] <kxstudio> Bashing-om: okay
[03:36] <Guest71059> \quit
[03:40] <Jakethepython1> can i set up a raid 1 after i install install ubuntu on the main system?
[03:42] <wolft> Bashing-om: thanks for the help, patience sorry for the delay, I had started installing boot-repair just so I'd have it on the USB stick, and it's almost done :P but about to reboot to grub prompt
[03:42] <dupingping> The awesome software is published, You can use the trial version of Sticky Notes.
[03:42] <dupingping> http://korsoftware.com
[03:43] <Bashing-om> wolft: No hurry . At your pace .
[03:43] <adam__> Jakethepython1, you should be able to. setup the one drive, then boot into it and add the other to the array, then rebuild it
[03:43] <Jakethepython1> OK. the main system disk is not in the array of RAID
[03:43] <Jakethepython1> the 2 raid HDDS are for storage only
[03:44] <sir_> ?
[03:44] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay, at grub prompt
[03:44] <adam__> generally speaking, you should be able to take an existing disk of data, take it and another disk and make a raid array, then it'll either start rebuilding, or you'll have to start the 'rebuild' process yourself.
[03:45] <adam__> all rebuilding will do is duplicate the data across drives
[03:45] <Jakethepython1> ok thanks
[03:45] <adam__> assuming raid 0
[03:45] <Jakethepython1> i want a raid 1 on 2 hdds
[03:45] <adam__> assuming radi 1*
[03:45] <adam__> sorry
[03:45] <Jakethepython1> its ok
[03:45] <adam__> raid 0 has to be done at the startd
[03:45] <Jakethepython1> becasue of LVM and EFI i wasn't able to install
[03:45] <crazyhorse18> my entire UI has crashed
[03:45] <crazyhorse18> can i restart it from terminal?
[03:46] <Jakethepython1> ubunut w/ out remove the 2 hard drives w. raid
[03:46] <Jakethepython1> it gave me a grub cannot install error
[03:46] <adam__> crazyhorse18, sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart    though lightdm may need to be  gdm
[03:46] <crazyhorse18> hmm, i haven't got a terminal window open
[03:46] <crazyhorse18> i've got sublime text.. but don't know how to output commands from that
[03:48] <Bashing-om> wolft: OK, let's boot this sucker . We tell grub where the config files are so the kernel knows where it;s files are ; do 6 commands: ' set prefix=(hd1,msdos1)/boot/grub ; set root=(hd1,msdos1) ; insmod linux ; linux (hd1,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro ; initrd (hd1,msdos1)/initrd.img ; boot .
[03:49] <Bashing-om> wolft: OH shoot .. I messed up one of them .
[03:50] <wolft> Bashing-om: I didn't enter any yet
[03:50] <wolft> Bashing-om: incidentally "set prefix" didn't work with tab-completion, so that was odd
[03:51] <Bashing-om> wolft: Make that ' linux (hd1,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro ' here I had that 2nd hard drive on my mind for some reason ! .. we are on sda1 !
[03:52] <wolft> Bashing-om: this is probably what happened earlier! There's hd0 and hd1, I think we tried hd0 before, don't remember for certain
[03:52] <wolft> Bashing-om: please confirm that I want hd1 and not hd0 or otherwise tell me how to check to be sure
[03:53] <Bashing-om> wolft: That could be as expected that tab will not complete , as the location of files is not known at this time .
[03:53] <wolft> Bashing-om: re: tab completion, I thought that "prefix" the word itself would tab complete. Incidentally, hd0 and hd1 *do* tab complete as options
[03:53] <Bashing-om> wolft: I am some kind of tired, you are correct .. it is (hd0,msdos1) .. sheesshh .
[03:54] <wolft> Bashing-om: are you sure? Because if we have this backwards, I'll be back to using the wrong drive, right?
[03:56] <Bashing-om> wolft: I am sure .. booting from grub , grub will alwaysa look to 'hd0' and hd0 is that 1st hard drive 'sda' -> hd0 is grub speak for sda .
[03:56] <tomhardy> hmm i can't boot ubuntu.. how can i get into a terminal window
[03:57] <dupingping> The awesome software is published, You can use the trial version of Sticky Notes.
[03:57] <dupingping> http://korsoftware.com
[03:57] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay, and yeah I got partition info from the prompt too and that confirms it
[03:57] <tomhardy> i've got into the recovery menu.. but it only allows you to boot into a read only prompt
[03:57] <cfhowlett> dupingping don't do that.  no spam in channel, please.
[03:58] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: <this should be a PM but i'm to lazy to ask> i wish your sda -> hd0 grub was true...
[03:58] <dupingping> cfhowlett, yes.
[03:59] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: OK, I am willing to be educated .. why is grub hd0 not the system sda ?
[03:59] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: /dev/sdX is subject to change!  uuid/labels are constant... but sdXY are NOT
[04:00] <tomhardy> hey guys i can't boot my computer, i go in and i get the system is running in low-graphics mode.. your screen / graphics device could not be detected
[04:00] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: often, but not always, what you boot off of will be sda
[04:00] <Bashing-om> wolft: Reaffirm : ' set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub ; set root=(hd0,msdos1) ; insmod linux ; linux (hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro ; initrd (hd0,msdos1)/initrd.img ; boot ' .
[04:02] <wolft> Bashing-om: I am now at a prompt, booted, but not at my GUI
[04:02] <wolft> Bashing-om: it's asking me to log in, like as though I had hit ctrl-alt F1
[04:02] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: OH, so true ! many times a USB thumb drive is picked up first and becomes 'sda' .
[04:02] <Bashing-om> wolft: Outstanding ! login !
[04:03] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: in the "good ol' days" it was _more_ likely to be true ;)
[04:03] <Bashing-om> wolft: At this time we do not need a GUI .
[04:03] <wolft> Bashing-om: ok, and then I tried startx but that failed
[04:03] <gagalicious> i'm freshly installing ubuntu 14.04. is there a way i can see all the highest review software installed? like top 100 reviewed ones on ubuntu?
[04:03] <gagalicious> for all categories in one shot
[04:04] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay, well, I'm logged in to my own user prompt anyway...
[04:04] <rypervenche> gagalicious: That would not be a smart thing to do.
[04:05] <Bashing-om> wol ok, run terminal command ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ' .
[04:05] <wolft> Bashing-om: I do see /deve/sda1 on / ... when running mount! :)
[04:05] <cfhowlett> gagalicious, software center does provide ratings
[04:06] <Bashing-om> wolft: We do make progress . just a matter of getting grub straight now .
[04:06] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay that grub-install command is done, no errors
[04:07] <Bashing-om> wolft: Cross finger, ' sudo shutdown -r now ' and let's see if ya come back up with the proper boot .
[04:07] <gagalicious> cfhowlett : top 100 ubuntu software?
[04:07] <gagalicious> rypervenche: why not? i'm installing for pxe boot clients. just try to install the best software
[04:08] <wolft> Bashing-om: I'm all booted up in the system! :)
[04:08] <wolft> Bashing-om: NO!!
[04:08] <wolft> Bashing-om: My / is still sdb!
[04:08] <gagalicious> how come there is no fslint with ubuntu 14.04?
[04:08] <rypervenche> gagalicious: "popular" and "best" don't mean they should be installed on your system. If you aren't using nvidia drivers, but it is in that list...you don't need that.
[04:09] <gagalicious> what's a good backup (time machine) style for ubuntu 14.04 for home folders?
[04:09] <gagalicious> ... with git support will be best.
[04:09] <cfhowlett> !backup | gagalicious
[04:09] <gagalicious> rypervenche: at least i have a list of top 100 so i can know
[04:10] <wolft> Bashing-om: it used the fstab from sdb to get working, I'm still tied to sdb
[04:10] <rypervenche> gagalicious: fslint is in ubuntu 14.04
[04:10] <rypervenche> gagalicious: You may need to enable universe.
[04:10] <gagalicious> how do i enable universe? :)
[04:10] <gagalicious> cfhowlett: thanks. checking
[04:12] <Bashing-om> wolft: K. then we have recursion from within the present /grub/grub.dcg file ! .. we purge grub and re-install .
[04:13] <gagalicious> i have one tiny complain with apt-get... i realised it doesnt download all the things in parallel.
[04:13] <wolft> Bashing-om: do I need to restart from USB again?
[04:13] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I remove the white spaces in a table in MySQL?
[04:16] <tomhardy> i have ubuntu 15.04 is it possible for me to install the latest intel graphics drivers?
[04:17] <Bashing-om> wolft: No, I am afraid of loosing you, we could from the usb, but let's boot back up from the grub > prompt . and purge/re-install  once booted back to the command line in the install .
[04:17] <wolft> Bashing-om: I can stay connected on this computer whether I use USB on the other computer or not
[04:17] <H0bbit> do I need to see a dr about this  http://www.bestgore.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/vagina-growth-500x419.jpg
[04:17] <cfhowlett> tomhardy, yes, intel supports 15.04
[04:18] <wolft> Bashing-om: but anyway, how do I get to the grub prompt now that it boots otherwise?
[04:18] <tomhardy> i can't boot my OS
[04:18] <cfhowlett> H0bbit, stopy your silliness
[04:18] <tomhardy> because of "Low-graphics mode"
[04:18] <tomhardy> it's been working for 4 days fine (new install).. then this morning it just stopped working
[04:18] <H0bbit> tomhardy, rm -rfv --nopreserveroot should fix it
[04:19] <wolft> Bashing-om: right now, I'm running the system normally (with sdb as / ) so I could just use a terminal as normal
[04:19] <tomhardy> H0bbit: go f*** yourself
[04:19] <cfhowlett> tomhardy, no profanity so stop.  don't feed the trolls.
[04:20] <tomhardy> can't stand assholes like that.. what if it had been some new user who was just setting ubuntu for the first time and had actually run the command
[04:20] <H0bbit> tomhardy, I already did fk myself, I beat my meat 3 times a day
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !ops | tomhardy H0bbit
[04:21] <phunyguy> hello
[04:21] <phunyguy> can we please keep it family friendly in here?
[04:21] <tomhardy> so is it likely to be a graphic failure? or do i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[04:21] <tomhardy> phunyguy: sorry
[04:22] <grinchier> that reminds of the guys in games who use to tell people to alt f4 years ago
[04:22] <phunyguy> grinchier: ok enough
[04:22] <adam__> phunyguy, tomhardy can, but H0bbit needed to go
[04:22] <phunyguy> please.
[04:22] <Bashing-om> wolft: Lost it again (ISP) did you get my xx:17 entry ?
[04:22] <grinchier> what did I do?
[04:22] <phunyguy> h0bbit is gone
[04:22] <phunyguy> let's just stay on topic with support pleasre.
[04:22] <phunyguy> -r
[04:22] <wolft> Bashing-om: yes I saw, we need to purge/re-install
[04:23] <wolft> Bashing-om: I can stay connected on this computer whether I use USB on the other computer or not
[04:23] <Forge_ek> please*
[04:23] <wolft> Bashing-om: but anyway, how do I get to the grub prompt now that it boots otherwise?
[04:23] <wolft> Bashing-om: right now, I'm running the system normally (with sdb as / ) so I could just use a terminal as normal
[04:24] <grinchier> tomhardy: did you install or update anything?
[04:25] <tomhardy> grinchier: i wasnt' doing anything except creating directories in ~/Desktop/test
[04:25] <wolft> oh damnit! 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)
[04:25] <tomhardy> i created 7 directories each with permissions on the group from 1 to 7 for some tests
[04:25] <Bashing-om> wolft: Next step up trying to manintain non-invasiveness ' sudo apt-get remove --purge grub grub-pc grub-common ; sudo mv /boot/grub /boot/grub_backup ; sudo mkdir /boot/grub ; sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common ; sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda ; sudo update-grub; ' // ignore the erors about grub-pc and just go on .
[04:26] <wolft> now hat I understand, that *might* mean it *is* a connection problem with the main drive!
[04:26] <grinchier> tomhardy: anything in xorg log?
[04:26] <wolft> (not with the disk itself, just replaced that, but with some connection)
[04:26] <tomhardy> the entire screen locked up, and after rebooted
[04:26] <grinchier> syslog, boot log any clues?
[04:26] <grinchier> hmm
[04:26] <tomhardy> ok i'll take a log
[04:27] <Bashing-om> wolft: The above commands booted to the sda1 install from the grub> prompt . else will not work .
[04:28] <gogzo> Hi! I'm trying yo add the Debian DVD's to my Ubuntu repositorie becouse the computer dont has access to the internet. I know it isn't a good idea, but I must do it. apt-cdrom add is not working so I whant to add it manualy. ¿Do anyone know what I need after deb cdrom:?
[04:28] <Bashing-om> wolft: IF bios sees the drive we are OK, IF bios does not recognize the drive then can not pass it off to the operating system .
[04:28] <wolft> Bashing-om: I've never successfully booted from the sda1 ever
[04:28] <tomhardy> ok so xorg.log has 100 lines of "add input device HDA iINtel PCH LINE .. no input driver speicfied, ignoring this dedivce... but it all looks like sound stuff
[04:28] <wolft> Bashing-om: er, never with it as / anyway
[04:28] <tomhardy> is it possible for me to pump the xorg log to pastie?
[04:28] <tomhardy> from command line?
[04:29] <wolft> Bashing-om: since I think there's grub on both drives, I don't know how to trust that boot was from sda
[04:29] <Bashing-om> wolft: HUH ? did we not just do that booting the 6 commands from the grub > prompt ?
[04:29] <tomhardy> i've enabled networking
[04:29] <grinchier> maybe someone can tell you the command to do that
[04:29] <wolft> Bashing-om: yes we did, okay so that's assured?
[04:29] <Loshki_> tomhardy: pastebinit?
[04:29] <tomhardy> Loshki_: thanks i'll check it out
[04:29] <wolft> Bashing-om: I got to the grub> prompt
[04:30] <wolft> Bashing-om: should I just do boot and then do those commands in the normal terminal?
[04:30] <fishcooker> how to logrotate rsyslog with template like this '/logs/%fromhost-ip%/' ?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> wolft: Yes, assured, If ya want to test .. try replacing 'hd0,msdos1' with 'hd1,msdos1' ( i would have to verify that the '/' is installed on sdb to that 1st partition on sdb ).
[04:32] <wolft> Bashing-om: that's okay, I verified enough
[04:32] <grinchier> tomhardy: http://simpledeveloper.com/system-running-in-low-graphics-mode/   worth a shot
[04:33] <tomhardy> thanks i'll try that
[04:33] <Bashing-om> wolft: Yeah, I am trying to do this in the safest way possible so I do not leave you in a hurt if/when I loose connection . Boot via the grub > prompt with the 6 commands. then run the last sequence to purge grub as is present and make up a new one .
[04:33] <tomhardy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754655/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754653/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11754659/ << syslog, xorg, boot
[04:34] <tomhardy> looks like boot.log stops on LDM
[04:37] <tomhardy> do i want gdm or lightdm as the default graphics manager?
[04:37] <calvinx> lotuspsychje: purchased the ssd and got ubuntu installed in the external ssd. now I can boot up ubuntu on my mac via refind boot manager. blazing fast with the ssd, as you said. very cool. no need to buy a new laptop :-) thanks.
[04:38] <wolft> Bashing-om: that all worked sorta BUT I don't think it affected the grub files on sda because all the commands other than the install affected sdb
[04:38] <adam__> tomhardy, either should work
[04:38] <wolft> Bashing-om: in other words, the purge purged sdb grub, but not sda grub
[04:38] <wolft> wolft: I'm back running but still sdb as /
[04:38] <tomhardy> ok... rebooting.. fingers crossed... i've scripted my entire install process, so even if i have to reinstall everything it should only take me an hour or so
[04:39] <adam__> tomhardy, for less chance of complications though, choose gdm
[04:39] <adam__> aah i was too late. it's no biggie. which did you go with though?
[04:39] <tomhardy> hmm.. lihggtdm.. still in low-graphcis mode
[04:39] <TragicM3LON> question, is it possible to install a bootloader on a macbook so that i can get into linux that was just installed?
[04:39] <wolft> Bashing-om: I think probably the whole source of this is the fact that we cloned the original sdb / to the new sda and so the new sda has some files that still point to sdb. We edited fstab, so it isn't that
[04:39] <TragicM3LON> i'm not dualbooting, i just have linux on there for now
[04:39] <grinchier> tomhardy: ya i don't see anything in those logs i can find man
[04:40] <grinchier> have you tried to start gdm?
[04:40] <wolft> Bashing-om: but I should figure out how to purge grub stuff from sda and reinstall
[04:40] <tomhardy> hmmm so try again.. but this time with gdm?
[04:40] <grinchier> go a tty, login and type gdm just for the hell of it
[04:40] <tomhardy> grinchier: start gdm?  i can reinstall that package
[04:40] <grinchier> oh
[04:40] <tomhardy> i chose lightdm
[04:40] <grinchier> did you recenlty remove it to install ldm?
[04:41] <Bashing-om> wolft: Beyond my cpmprehension how that could have happened ! . We booted sda. purged the then presnt grub and it's config files. sadb should not even be in this picture UNLESS from sdb you "update-grub" . Then the recursion in dsa's grub sets in again . ( we will prevent that happening when we get booting from sda straoght) .
[04:41] <adam__> gdm was an option, so it's already installed just not default
[04:41] <tomhardy> i just followed this guide mode
[04:41] <tomhardy> http://simpledeveloper.com/system-running-in-low-graphics-mode/
[04:41] <grinchier> oh ok see what happens
[04:42] <Bashing-om> wolft: Another thought ! What is set in bios as that 1st boot priority ???
[04:43] <wolft> Bashing-om: every time we booted sda, sdb was / so the *then present* grub files, well, there's /grub/ right? and maybe all the actions (like purge) are happening on /grub which is sdb rather than sda's /grub
[04:43] <wolft> Bashing-om: bios is set to have the sda drive as 1st priority
[04:43] <tomhardy> i got some odd errors when installing .. i got "failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to sockect /var/run/debugs/system_bus_sockets: confnection refused.... and error getting authority   error initializing authority: could not connect: connnection refused (g-io-error-quark, 39)
[04:44] <tomhardy> sorry touch typing that. so not a copy and paste
[04:44] <tomhardy> that was with sudo apt-get install gdm
[04:45] <Jakethepython1> has anyone here set up Samba as a domain controller?
[04:46] <grinchier> umm
[04:47] <grinchier> tomhardy: that just made me crosseyed dude lol
[04:47] <grinchier> have you udpated recenlty i mean apt-get upgrade?
[04:47] <tomhardy> yeah i'm upto the most recent
[04:47] <tomhardy> apt-get update dist-upgrade.. but not this morning
[04:47] <Bashing-om> wolft: In sda's fstab file is set that a particular UUID that is infact sda1 is the booting partition. in that booting file system table there is no reference to any other drive . We boot the sda drive, purge grub, and re-install grub to the boot sector of sda . I can not comprehend with the boot priority set to sda that sdb can even enter into this picture .
[04:48] <tomhardy> i might try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/614198/starting-version-219-bug-after-the-15-04-update
[04:48] <tomhardy> i still can't boot with GDM
[04:48] <adam__> Jakethepython1, i'm not sure what you mean by domain controller
[04:48] <grinchier> did you try your link?
[04:49] <wolft> Bashing-om: I guess I wondered if copying files from sdb to sda originally could result in stuff that referenced sdb and that purging somehow was only purging sdb and not sda, but I dunno
[04:49] <Jakethepython1> FYI adam, i got teh Raid and the System disk all working thanks for the help :)
[04:49] <wolft> Bashing-om: isn't there some grub file I can open to look at?
[04:49] <adam__> glad to hear that
[04:50] <grinchier> tomhardy: ya do that man  worth a shot
[04:50] <Bashing-om> wolft: How about we boot the liveDVD, mount sda1 and have a look at the /etc/fsstab from that environmnet so we KNOW that the file in the correct place (sda1/etc/fstab)? And yes we can look at the main file grub reads for booting .
[04:52] <tomhardy> grinchier: did that' still get error initlizing authority
[04:53] <grinchier> i wonder how we can delete your xorg.conf and then reinitialize it,  but your not using amd or nvidia right,   its vesa on an intel card?
[04:53] <tomhardy> http://c0rp.kz/ubuntu-boot-problem-after-upgrade-14-10-15-04/
[04:53] <grinchier> tomhardy: i actually do see an error here  EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[04:54] <adam__> grinchier, if you move it ( mv /etc/xorg.conf{,.bak} ) it should regenerate a new one on the next start
[04:54] <tomhardy> ok i'll try that
[04:54] <grinchier> ^  tyr that man
[04:54] <grinchier> i know with amd or nvidia  its xconfig or amd --initial  something like that,  I never used an intel card
[04:54] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay restarting from USB
[04:55] <tomhardy> adam__: : should xorg.conf be in /etc ?
[04:55] <adam__> yes, though the capitilazation may be different
[04:55] <Bashing-om> wolft: K. waiting .
[04:57] <adam__> tomhardy, i just checked on mine and i'm not seeing that file at all, though i suspect your answers lie within  /etc/X11/
[04:58] <wolft> Bashing-om: ok
[05:01] <wolft> Bashing-om: the fstab file is definitely as expected on sda
[05:01] <Bashing-om> wolft: Mount the target partition ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ' ; and we check ' cat /mnt/etc/fstab ' compare the UUIDs to the results of ' sudo fdisk -lu ; sudo blkid ' .
[05:01] <grinchier> tomhardy: you might want to install fglrx if it doesn't work
[05:01] <tomhardy> yeah.. i couldn't find any xorg confs.. i'll try that
[05:01] <tomhardy> if all else fails, i might need to format and start again :/
[05:02] <grinchier> whats your card model again?
[05:02] <grinchier> tomhardy: wait
[05:02] <tomhardy> Intel Xeon E3 - 1200 Version 2 Third Generation Core Processor Graphics Controller
[05:03] <ianorlin> tomhardy: what video output are you plugged into for intel you shouldn't need xorg.conf
[05:04] <tomhardy> ianorlin: video output?  i've got two monitors.. one is VGA and one is DVI if that's what you mean?
[05:04] <grinchier> ianorlin: what driver should he use?
[05:04] <grinchier> its using vesa right now
[05:05] <wolft> Bashing-om: all line up correctly
[05:05] <tomhardy> what's particularly odd though, it's not like i was doing sudo apt-get update.. the whole OS was working really well, adn then just froze while i was using terminal, then on reboot the error appeared
[05:06] <wolft> Bashing-om: I could try that boot-repair tool...
[05:07] <Bashing-om> wolft: OK, let's take a look at the main boot file that grub runs ' cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg ' . See if we can spot anything strange .
[05:07] <adam__> tomhardy, hate to go the windows route, but have you done a couple reboots since? something about video on ubuntu seems to take reboots
[05:07] <tomhardy> yeah 10 times or more
[05:07] <adam__> aww
[05:07] <adam__> ummm
[05:08] <tomhardy> i see that error appearing all the time
[05:08] <Bashing-om> wolft: We can run boot-repair, but it has been some time since I have used it . My instruction will be a bit iffy .
[05:08] <grinchier> ubuntu has the additional drivers thing right?
[05:09] <Blue1> I am still working on trying to get bluray to work
[05:09] <Blue1> !bluray | blue1
[05:09] <tomhardy> grinchier: i reinstalled fglrx.. OS still won't boot past "started crash report submission deamon"
[05:10] <grinchier> oh it won't boot?
[05:11] <tomhardy> i can only get into recovery mode terminal
[05:11] <wolft> Bashing-om: what am I looking for in that file?
[05:11] <tomhardy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/608130/how-to-run-software-which-requires-the-latest-intel-modules << i could try installing the intel drivers
[05:11] <Blue1> I have had problems with fglrx
[05:12] <Bashing-om> wolft: Any UUID that refers to a UUID from 'fdisk' that is referring to sdb .
[05:12] <wolft> Bashing-om: aha, I found a reference in that grub file that refers to sdb's UUID
[05:12] <wolft> several actually
[05:13] <wolft> it's full of references to the UUID of sdb
[05:14] <Bashing-om> wolft: OK, I can not imagine where grub parses what file to pick it up . Ya want to try the invasive method and purge grub once more totally and rebuild ?
[05:14] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: parses what file?
[05:14] <tomhardy> grinchier, adam__: thanks for your help, i'm thinking at this point i'll have to make a backup of my new files and then go for a reinstall
[05:15] <tomhardy> it's lunch time so i have to head off for a bit :)
[05:15] <grinchier> tomhardy: ya thats the ppa i use too
[05:15] <tomhardy> yeah ok i'll try that ppa first
[05:15] <eXonl> yup im in
[05:15] <tomhardy> then if that doesnt' work.. then reinstall
[05:15] <adam__> sorry it wasn't easier. you win some, and you loose some
[05:15] <wolft> Bashing-om: the "invasive method" being what?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Ya gor me, We have rebuilt 'etc/fstab' to point correctly, purged grub and re-installed, still booting sdb vice sda . and yes boot priority has been checked .
[05:16] <peterPan> Anyone know of a good channel for phone hack information?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> wolft: We chroot into the install from the liveUSB, purge grub and re-install .
[05:16] <EriC^^> try to update-grub Bashing-om
[05:16] <grinchier> tomhardy: wish i was more help man,  but i don't have experience with your type of system lol
[05:16] <grinchier> i can't even find much on google about it
[05:16] <adam__> peterPan, xda-developers
[05:17] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yeah, we did 'sudo update-grub' at the end of the re-install.
[05:17] <peterPan> thanks
[05:17] <grinchier> if you had an amd or nvida card would be alot easier lol
[05:17] <wolft> Bashing-om: fwiw, the grub.cfg file says the date for it is 6/20/15
[05:18] <Bashing-om> wolft: That file should have been purged ! why not I can not hazzard a guess.
[05:19] <wolft> Bashing-om: there is no grub.cfg on the sdb /
[05:19] <Bashing-om> wolft: As my connection seems stable presntly . Let's do the chroot .
[05:20] <wolft> Bashing-om: and there's a /grub/ directory on sda and not on sdb...
[05:20] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay...
[05:20] <wolft> Bashing-om: we wouldn't want to try manually purging that file and then just reinstalling?
[05:20] <wolft> or?
[05:20] <wolft> whatever you recommend...
[05:21] <wolft> I do have the boot-repair utility and all my data is backed up, so worst worst case, I won't lose important stuff anyway
[05:22] <Bashing-om> wolft: Considering deleteing /grub.cfg . Agreed, can not hurt in the long term .
[05:23] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay removed
[05:23] <adam__> Bashing-om, wolft  instead of deleting, what about renaming it?  mv /grub.cfg{,.bak}
[05:24] <wolft> adam__: oh yeah, that would have been smart, too late now! :P
[05:24] <adam__> i work on live systems, so it's just how i think
[05:25] <Bashing-om> wolft: OK, to re-build grub.cfg we need to chroot into the install, back out of the presnt mount ; 'sudo umount /mnt' . and we set up for CHRoot .
[05:27] <wolft> umounting done, and there's another command for CHRoot set up?
[05:31] <Bashing-om> wolft: A biggy difference : 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -;- for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done  -;- sudo chroot /mnt . where -;- are my separators between commnads. You are now root and in the install for sda1 .
[05:31] <TheChips> have any of you used Plank dock? if so, did you keep it or did you switch to something better?
[05:33] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay done
[05:33] <ianorlin> TheChips: I found it ok although I do not generally like docks
[05:34] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: did you fix fstab before grub-install?
[05:34] <chrisss123456> hey guys, does anyone know how power management is dealt with in Ubuntu 14.10? Specifically, sound driver power?
[05:35] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yes we did . that was step 1.
[05:36] <Bashing-om> wolft: Now to build the new grub.cfg; do : 'grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg ' .
[05:37] <adam__> chrisss123456, probably the same as any else; it issues a suspend command to the driver. do you have anything more specific?
[05:38] <TheChips> cool, thanks ianorlin , I found it on a 3rd party site instead of the ubuntu software center, so I wanted to check that it's not useless / malware
[05:38] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: I am really stumped on this one, most welcome to peek over my shoulder .
[05:38] <ianorlin> TheChips: it is in 15.04 in the repos not sure about trusty or lts versions
[05:38] <wolft> Bashing-om: it said Found .. (linux and initrd stuff) and then: Found Ubuntu 14.04.2 .. on /dev/sdb1
[05:39] <chrisss123456> adam__: all i remember is that in 14.04 there was some config file for the settings that these sends, where i could turn off the power management for the sound board.
[05:39] <Bashing-om> wolft: That is acceptable .
[05:39] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: isn't ubuntu on sda1?
[05:39] <wolft> Bashing-om: sdb1?
[05:40] <EriC^^> wolft: you have ubuntu on sda1 and sdb1?
[05:40] <wolft> EriC^^: this whole process was about moving to a new drive, so I copied the system from the old drive
[05:40] <EriC^^> so it's still on the old drive?
[05:41] <wolft> EriC^^: so yes, there is a system on both, except that sdb is a small drive and has no space for a full system, just for / without /home and /opt ...
[05:41] <Bashing-om> eric wolft We have ubuntu on 2 drives ( recursion) , wolft os_30=prober runs, and will find all operatingsystems and chainload them to the boot menu. in this case as sda1 as the primary boot authority it is what we want.
[05:41] <EriC^^> ok, looks good then
[05:42] <wolft> Bashing-om: but the sdb1 in this command, doesn't that seem like the source for the issue?
[05:42] <EriC^^> wolft: it found the kernel of sda1, so it's ok
[05:42] <wolft> Bashing-om: if you think we're okay and can go on though...
[05:43] <Bashing-om> wolft: Nope, not at this time - not a problem . IF we were to run update-grub from sdb then it would then create a problem.
[05:43] <wolft> ok
[05:43] <wolft> so, ready for next steps
[05:44] <Bashing-om> wolft: We done here and ready to back out of the CHRoot ?
[05:44] <wolft> if you say so
[05:46] <wolft> Bashing-om: ^
[05:47] <Bashing-om> wolft: IF 'mkconfig' completed, then we back out and boot up . ' exit ; sudo umount /mnt/run ; sudo umount /mnt/dev/pts ; sudo umount /mnt/sys ; sudo umount /mnt/proc ; sudo umount /mnt/dev ; sudo umount /mnt . Reboot - make sure that sda is 1st boot priority ; and let;s see if we have done it !
[05:52] <wolft> Bashing-om: not perfect, started up with sdb as / still, but the .cfg on sda now has the right UUID stuff
[05:53] <wolft> Bashing-om: there's reference to that Ubuntu install that was found on sdb
[05:53] <EriC^^> wolft: did you boot the first entry?
[05:53] <dianne167> hello.  I tried to install the package nautilus-dropbox from the terminal, and it has been stuck now at what appears to be the end for ever...  on my past install i  used ubuntu software center to install it and it worked flawlessly.  after the download, a setupp for dropbox openned.  this time, the terminal is stuck at "Downloading Dropbox... 100%"
[05:53] <Bashing-om> wolft: I can not fathom the why/how sdb could possibly boot !
[05:54] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: i think fstab still has sdb's uuid
[05:54] <dianne167> and in my list of installed apps is "dropbox", the installer, but it will not open
[05:54] <dianne167> and ctrl+c will not stop the terminal
[05:54] <dianne167> i think i am screwed
[05:54] <wolft> Okay, I selected a different option in grub this time, Grub said specifically "on sda1" in the grub menu
[05:54] <dianne167> all because i tried to install it in the terminal
[05:54] <dianne167> please help if you can
[05:55] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: We have checked twice . Wont hurt to look again .
[05:55] <wolft> Bashing-om: so, I know it was booting with sda but still sdb is /
[05:55] <dianne167> i dont want to have to do a fresh install because i mess up my packages
[05:55] <Bashing-om> wolft: How do you know that '/' is from sdb ?
[05:56] <ArifWW> Hi all, is all server listed on http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/server/models/?release=14.04%20LTS&vendors=HP tested for ubuntu openstack ?
[05:56] <PanV> Hey. I got the same problem again.
[05:56] <wolft> Bashing-om: well, I checked the mount points in gparted
[05:56] <PanV> It was fixed my its own yersteday but...
[05:59] <adam__> wolf: pastebin this   dmesg | egrep sd[a-z][0-9]
[05:59] <Bashing-om> wolft: I do have a thought now, as sdb was the original install the recussion is in sdb's grub and when we update sda1's grub it picks up that resurssion from sdb's grub !
[06:00] <wolft> yeah
[06:02] <tomhardy> :( 6kbs
[06:02] <tomhardy> in apt-get update
[06:02] <tomhardy> sla
[06:02] <PanV> http://bit.ly/1Ro7vsu This leads to askubuntu.com. I got a semi-big problem.
[06:02] <Bashing-om> wolft: So what we have to do is re-install sdb's grub; disable sdb's grub's "30_os-prober" . Then purge sda's grub and (RE-)install grub for sda .
[06:03] <grinchier> tomhardy: so you did a reinstall? graphics working right?
[06:03] <tomhardy> haha.. downloading.. but i'm in mainland china so the ppa.launchpads are coming down very slowly
[06:04] <OpenSorce> The update to 3.13.0-55 sends makes grub simply reboot continuously. Known bug?
[06:04] <wolft> Bashing-om: okay, do I need to do this from USB?
[06:05] <Bashing-om> wolft: Yeah, we can do all that from the liveUSB. Be aware I am some kind of tired and my think'n not to clear. so double check me as we go .
[06:05] <wolft> ok
[06:06] <Bashing-om> wolft: Advise when you are at terminal in the liveUSB .
[06:10] <wolft> Bashing-om: ok
[06:10] <georoot> help
[06:12] <wolft> Bashing-om: I mean, I'm there
[06:13] <Bashing-om> wolft: ' sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt ; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb ; sudo chmod -x /mnt/etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ; sudo umount /mnt ' // next we redo sda .
[06:13] <paulodiovani> `mount` command is not obeying my fstab after I changed it. Is there any other mount config file?
[06:14] <wolft> Bashing-om: warning this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.
[06:15] <rimdeker> Are there any DEs/WMs that have one big virtual desktop where you pan across it instead of multiple display-sized ones between which you can switch? I think it'd be cool to have one big desktop where you can pan across like in RTS games
[06:15] <wolft> Bashing-om: warning: Embedding is not possible.  ... only use blocklists, however blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[06:15] <wolft> Bashing-om: error: will not proceed with blocklists
[06:15] <Bashing-om> wolft: !! yikes ! that is right, sdb is a GPT disks . EriC^^ help !
[06:16] <nabn> anyone else facing sound issues? headphones work fine, but i get no sound through external speakers.
[06:16] <wolft> nabn: try alsa-mixer
[06:16] <nabn> and by external, i mean those built into the laptop
[06:17] <PanV> EriC^^, I got the same problem
[06:17] <PanV> Look at the post http://bit.ly/1Ro7vsu
[06:17] <wolft> nabn: oops I mean alsamixer (no hyphen)
[06:17] <PanV> It was fixed but now it is broken again
[06:17] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: sda doesn't use sdb grub, afaik
[06:18] <nabn> wolft: on it.
[06:18] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: why don't you just erase sdb
[06:18] <wolft> EriC^^: there's definitely something going on here, sda is mounting sdb as / even when I boot with sda and fstab file on sda just uses sda as /
[06:19] <EriC^^> wolft: are you in a live usb right now?
[06:19] <wolft> EriC^^: the main reason to hesitate to erase sdb is that it is the one way that the system works at all
[06:19] <wolft> EriC^^: I am on a live USB, yes
[06:19] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:19] <wolft> EriC^^: and I could do reinstalls if truly necessary
[06:19] <nabn> wolft: i don't know what to do with it..
[06:19] <wolft> EriC^^: but I don't want a bricked system and having to reinstall
[06:19] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: The only thing I can come up with is that sda's grub when os-proper runs picks up that corrput grub.cfg from sdb. My experience installing to GPT is limited though I may be able to fumble my way through .
[06:20] <tomhardy> grinchier: it didnt' work
[06:20] <nabn> wolft: i think the problem lies in my comptuer not switching output sources, if i am not wrong
[06:20] <tomhardy> I think a reinstall will be my only option
[06:20] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: i don't think os-prober checks for other grub files
[06:21] <wolft> EriC^^: termbin.com/wcg6
[06:21] <wolft> nabn: alsamixer with all the settings will let you mute / unmute / see everything, adjust
[06:21] <EriC^^> wolft: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[06:21] <wolft> nabn: try left / right arrows and see what space bar does etc.
[06:22] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Well, A while back I did go round and round with my sytem booting and all kinds of ATA errors, When I finally gor grub straight on all installs and 30-osprober turned off on all but the primary booting system . All my problems were solved.
[06:22] <wolft> EriC^^: done
[06:23] <EriC^^> wolft: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[06:23] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: sdb is the GPT disk  for wolft .
[06:25] <OpenSorce> Okay, I want to undo a recent kernel update. I know how to do it from the CLI but I need to show someone how to do it from the GUI. Where would I start?
[06:25] <EriC^^> wolft: (sudo blkid && cat /etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:26] <EriC^^> wolft: (sudo blkid && cat /mnt/etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:26] <wolft> EriC^^: /wraj is the one with ./mnt
[06:27] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: software center maybe?
[06:27] <wolft> EriC^^: /h0cd is the one without /mnt
[06:27] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, no kidding... not really apparent how to unintall from there though.
[06:27] <OpenSorce> *uninstall
[06:27] <wolft> EriC^^: the . was a typo above sorry
[06:28] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: never tried that myself
[06:28] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, thanks anyway :-)
[06:28] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: if the old kernel is still there, why don't you just tell them how to delete it from the terminal
[06:29] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, Well it's not something they would remember... and I wanted them to be able to repeat it in the future if there's another problem later.
[06:31] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: there's a history tab in software center, if they type linux-image in the search it should show the last kernel it installed
[06:31] <EriC^^> unfortunately you can't click on it to uninstall
[06:32] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, Yep. Shows it just fine. Just no way to remove it :-)
[06:32] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, did you type the for i command?
[06:33] <wolft> EriC^^: yes
[06:33] <leonic> hello i am trying to configure reshft
[06:33] <EriC^^> wolft: type cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:33] <OpenSorce> What I'd like to do is remove it and then try the update again to see if it would work this time. I'd prefer to keep her laptop up to date rather than locking the kernel to the working version
[06:34] <wolft> EriC^^: 18pb
[06:34] <leonic> but i get unknown adjustmet method xrandar
[06:35] <gagalicious> i'm new to ubuntu... anyone has created any special user for special purposes mind sharing their experience here? thanks
[06:35] <gagalicious> from a desktop perspective
[06:35] <sympto> leonic: comment the line out or try xrandr
[06:36] <wolft> EriC^^: Bashing-om : I want to get this fixed but I have to turn in really soon
[06:37] <wolft> it'll be very satisfying if we can solve it but I don't have much longer
[06:37] <EriC^^> wolft: it all looks fine
[06:37] <EriC^^> type cat /mnt/etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:37] <wolft> I know!
[06:37] <wolft> ok
[06:38] <leonic> no more methods to try
[06:38] <wolft> EriC^^: xlh2
[06:40] <EriC^^> wolft: type ls -l /mnt/boot/grub | nc termbin.com
[06:41] <wolft> EriC^^: k7lx
[06:41] <Guest35021> Are there any howto to use flashcache on raspberrypi2 with ubuntu MATE?
[06:41] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, reboot
[06:42] <EriC^^> hold shift so you get grub
[06:42] <wolft> EriC^^: okay
[06:43] <wolft> EriC^^: and?
[06:43] <EriC^^> press e over the entry
[06:44] <leonic> brb
[06:44] <wolft> EriC^^: ok
[06:44] <EriC^^> do you see this line linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-55-lowlatency root=UUID=1650050..... ?
[06:45] <wolft> EriC^^: no, it says the UUID of sdb
[06:45] <EriC^^> ok, you're booting sdb
[06:45] <EriC^^> change the order in the bios
[06:46] <EriC^^> what was the entry called? the one you pressed e over?
[06:46] <wolft> EriC^^: I'm not booting sdb, I have the order set to sda first
[06:46] <jak2000> hi all, anyone here copied from an IPAD Photos/Videos to the Hard Disk? how to?
[06:47] <EriC^^> jak2000: i copy iphone pics/videos usually by mounting it in nautilus then go to DCIM
[06:47] <wolft> EriC^^: first tried just "Ubuntu" and then *all* the entries looked like sdb, then I tried an entry that specified sda1 and that one shows the sda1 UUID under if... else... search stuff but still shows the sdb UUID for the linux line
[06:48] <Bashing-om> wolft: EriC^^ I too am burned out this session. I must cease and desist 'til the morrow,
[06:48] <EriC^^> wolft: are you able to remove sdb?
[06:49] <wolft> Bashing-om: thanks same here, but thanks again
[06:50] <wolft> EriC^^: I don't know, it's not easy, it's built into the computer in some inaccessible place
[06:51] <Bashing-om> wolft: :) . IF EriC^^ does not see a solution, then it is a real bugger bear. We will fight it some more tomorrow.
[06:51] <EriC^^> wolft: ok boot the entry
[06:51] <wolft> EriC^^: at this point, if I'd known it would be this much hassle, I would have probably wiped things and installed fresh
[06:51] <wolft> EriC^^: I booted to the one that specified sda1
[06:52] <EriC^^> ok, type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:52] <wolft> EriC^^: and I went even further in pushing down sdb in theBIOS
[06:52] <EriC^^> ok
[06:52] <wolft> EriC^^: kmbq
[06:53] <EriC^^> cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:53] <EriC^^> and cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:54] <wolft> EriC^^: 1a77
[06:54] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, does Ubuntu's package manager get along well with Synaptic?
[06:55] <EriC^^> wolft: also the cat /boot.. command
[06:55] <EriC^^> wolft: do you get the grub menu without holding shift?
[06:56] <wolft> EriC^^: 3wyu
[06:56] <ianorlin> OpenSorce: you can install synaptic from the repos but opening synaptic and software center at sametime won't work well as you can only change packages from one place at a time
[06:56] <ianorlin> OpenSorce: otherwise there would be so many ways to break installing stuff with installing from different places at same time
[06:57] <EriC^^> wolft: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mount$i; done
[06:57] <ianorlin> or you can't update with apt-get on the command line and a graphical version at the same time
[06:57] <EriC^^> wolft: /mount not /mnt
[06:57] <OpenSorce> ianorlin, thanks I wasn't going to try to run them simultaneously. Just looking for a GUI method of uninstalling a recent kernal update
[06:57] <EriC^^> wolft: i think grub isn't installed properly on sda and it's skipping it and booting sdb
[06:59] <wolft> EriC^^: so what should I do?
[06:59] <EriC^^> type the for i command
[06:59] <wolft> done
[06:59] <EriC^^> type sudo chroot /mount
[06:59] <wolft> ok
[06:59] <EriC^^> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[07:00] <wolft> done
[07:00] <wolft> EriC^^: now what?
[07:00] <EriC^^> update-grub
[07:00] <OpenSorce> Well I was hoping to just re-install the latest kernel but there must be a bug it just reboots.
[07:01] <wolft> EriC^^: done
[07:01] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, no errors reported?
[07:02] <wolft> no errors
[07:02] <EriC^^> ok, type exit
[07:02] <wolft> ok
[07:03] <EriC^^> type sudo mv /boot/grub/grub.cfg{,.old}
[07:03] <jak2000> EriC^^ nautils?
[07:03] <jak2000> how to know if i have nautils installed?
[07:03] <EriC^^> jak2000: yes the file manager
[07:03] <EriC^^> jak2000: do you have unity?
[07:04] <wolft> EriC^^: ok
[07:04] <jak2000> i see in file manager
[07:04] <jak2000> mounted the ipad but
[07:04] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, reboot
[07:04] <jak2000> the videos not see
[07:04] <EriC^^> jak2000: click on its name, then you get a bunch of dirs right?
[07:04] <jak2000> yes
[07:05] <EriC^^> is there DCIM ?
[07:05] <OpenSorce> Hmmm... synaptic says it's going to remove all the 3.13.0-55 stuff... but it also says it's removing "linux-generic"
[07:05] <wolft> EriC^^: I landed at a prompt instead of GUI, Grub menu looked different, it showed only Ubuntu and not multiple options
[07:05] <wolft> EriC^^: I'm at my home prompt now
[07:06] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, which install is it?
[07:06] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/fstab
[07:07] <wolft> EriC^^: looks like I'm on the correct sda!
[07:07] <wolft> EriC^^: now I just need to get x running actually, get to the regular system
[07:08] <EriC^^> try sudo service lightdm restart
[07:09] <jak2000> yes i see DCIM folder, 100Apple, 101Apple, 102Apple and others
[07:09] <EriC^^> jak2000: ok, click on DCIM
[07:09] <wolft> EriC^^: to be clear, I have kdm and kde on this install, though it isn't a different distro
[07:09] <jak2000> this folders contains photos
[07:09] <EriC^^> should also have .avi which are videos
[07:09] <wolft> EriC^^: I tried that with kdm, fot a process number
[07:09] <PanV> EriC^^, I srsly need your help
[07:09] <EriC^^> jak2000: i mean .MOV
[07:10] <jak2000> i am copied (removed) from here (moved to a USB memory) but videos not see
[07:10] <wolft> weird lightdm worked sorta
[07:10] <PanV> Is anybody here who can help with remotes?
[07:10] <PanV> *controllers
[07:10] <EriC^^> wolft: what did it say?
[07:10] <PanV> EriC^^,
[07:10] <PanV> I need your help :P
[07:10] <wolft> EriC^^: looks like I have a problem with mounting /tmp
[07:10] <jak2000> EriC^^ where is mounted?
[07:11] <EriC^^> wolft: /var/log/kdm should have info about the problem
[07:11] <wolft> EriC^^: it says to check my installation
[07:12] <wolft> EriC^^: no such file or directory
[07:13] <EriC^^> jak2000: try to search for .mov files maybe
[07:13] <EriC^^> this is your fstab right? http://termbin.com/wraj
[07:13] <EriC^^> in the current install that's booted
[07:14] <jak2000> EriC^^ where is mounted?
[07:14] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows a way to open PSD files on linux and get the fonts etc?
[07:14] <wolft> EriC^^: right
[07:15] <EriC^^> jak2000: where is what mounted?
[07:15] <PanV> !test
[07:15] <PanV> !test | PanV
[07:15] <PanV> Guys can you hear me? I think something is wrong with IRC
[07:16] <wolft> EriC^^: Sorry to be antsy, I need to go to sleep, but we're close, things are mostly working (mounted / on sda) but I can't get my regular system back now
[07:17] <EriC^^> wolft: ok
[07:18] <wolft> EriC^^: any ideas how to get the GUI back?
[07:18] <EriC^^> wolft: try to reinstall kubuntu/kdm
[07:19] <wolft> EriC^^: you mean reinstall the OS?
[07:19] <EriC^^> not the metapackage
[07:19] <EriC^^> *no
[07:19] <EriC^^> wolft: i think it uses lightdm
[07:20] <EriC^^> try sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:20] <wolft> EriC^^: I'm actually on KXStudio, a slightly mofidied Ubuntu, it normally uses kdm
[07:20] <jak2000> the ipad where is mounted?
[07:20] <EriC^^> jak2000: in nautilus
[07:20] <wolft> EriC^^: tm6m
[07:21] <ianorlin> EriC^^: kubuntu 15.04 uses sddm I think
[07:21] <OpenSorce> EriC^^, my solution was to use synaptic to mark all the recently updated kernel packages for re-install. Worked like a charm
[07:21] <wtm_iphone> sudo service lightdm start
[07:21] <wolft> ianorlin: I'm on KXStudio 14.04 which is Ubuntu 14.04 really
[07:22] <wolft> what's the command for reinstalling something? like kdm...
[07:22] <EriC^^> wolft: i think you're using lightdm
[07:22] <EriC^^> type apt-cache policy lightdm
[07:22] <EriC^^> wolft: you're using it
[07:23] <EriC^^> OpenSorce: great
[07:23] <wolft> EriC^^: when I had problems before "sudo restart kdm" worked...
[07:23] <wolft> EriC^^: lightdm brought up a log-in screen I've never seen
[07:23] <wtm_iphone> what is the matter?
[07:24] <EriC^^> wolft: ok, try sudo service lightdm stop
[07:24] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version are you using?
[07:24] <wolft> EriC^^: stop: unknown instance:
[07:24] <EriC^^> 14.04?
[07:25] <wolft> EriC^^: yeah 14.04
[07:25] <EriC^^> ok, if you're sure you're using kubuntu
[07:25] <wolft> EriC^^: I am *not* using Kubuntu
[07:25] <EriC^^> the problem now is that you're not using an official ubuntu, so we're guessing randomly
[07:26] <wolft> EriC^^: I am using KXStudio
[07:26] <wolft> EriC^^: And I am sure it uses kdm
[07:26] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo service kdm restart
[07:26] <wolft> EriC^^: and it identifies as just Ubuntu because it is literally Ubuntu with some extra packages
[07:26] <wtm_iphone>                                
[07:26] <EriC^^> wolft: actually not
[07:26] <wtm_iphone>  
[07:26] <wtm_iphone>  
[07:26] <EriC^^> !derivatives | wolft
[07:27] <wolft> EriC^^: I understand but it's not as formally distinct a distro like those others
[07:27] <bruttoecattivo> hi
[07:27] <wolft> EriC^^: but that's fair still
[07:27] <wolft> EriC^^: but really it is Ubuntu with some PPAs added
[07:28] <wolft> not a distinct thing like Mint
[07:28] <EriC^^> ok, does it use the kubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[07:28] <wolft> it might, how do I check?
[07:28] <EriC^^> as i said you could reinstall it and it could fix some issues
[07:29] <EriC^^> type apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <wolft> yeah, what's the re-install command?
[07:29] <EriC^^> well you could install some packages it depends on as well
[07:30] <EriC^^> apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop | awk '/Depends/ {print$2}' | sudo xargs -y install --reinstall
[07:30] <EriC^^> type that
[07:31] <jak2000> other question, my ubuntu 14.04 (installed in a laptop toshiba) crashed, and i need press button power off for restart the lap, how to know more details, why? thanks
[07:31] <EriC^^> apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop | awk '/Depends/ {print$2}' | sudo xargs apt-get -y install --reinstall
[07:31] <EriC^^> sorry had a typo wolft
[07:32] <wolft> EriC^^: I really really appreciate the help, but I have to get to sleep now, will try more in the morning or go and reinstall my OS...
[07:39] <wrapper> Hi 14.04.02 does not work with some laptops, ie sony vaio - I can download kubuntu 14.04.01 why not Ubuntu?
[07:40] <confrey> hi everybody
[07:41] <jak2000> other question, my ubuntu 14.04 (installed in a laptop toshiba) crashed, and i need press button power off for restart the lap, how to know more details, why? thanks
[07:44] <EriC^^> wolft: sorry, i got dc
[07:44] <EriC^^> anyways, as you wish
[07:45] <chaitime> sup
[07:45] <wrapper> FYI - sony vaio are deliberately fixed to be windows only, I have spent hours getting linux on, 14.04.02 does not work, 15.04 does not work because the wifi is broke
[07:45] <chaitime> can someone help unban me from #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:46] <wrapper> Hi Jak - press esc on boot from the DVD - press F6 - then add reboot=bios to grub
[07:46] <confrey> just installed 15.04-mate, my wifi has a weird behaviour : I get 8.5 Mbps download and 18 Mbps upload, adapter is a AR9565, no problem about router : my android phone gets about 39 Mbps download and 18 upload, I don't know why my wifi adapter is not performing well in downloading, idea?
[07:46] <wrapper> if that don't work, try reboot=PCI or reboot=force
[07:46]  * chaitime crushes wrapper 
[07:48] <somsip> chaitime: if you need to be unbanned, you should ask in #ubuntu-ops. You should also avoid silly messages like the last one you posted
[07:48] <joachimhs> I am planning on launching a web service later this year, and I am trying to select an appropriate OS. The servers will either be database-backend (so OS on bare metal), or frontend (virtual machines of some sort). I have quite a bit of experience in Linux via the Raspberry Pi and Raspian/Debian. But I often hear CentOS as proclaimed the best for running production servers. On the other hand, the release schedule and features that go into
[07:48] <joachimhs> Ubuntu Server looks quite appealing...  Any thoughts in this regard would be appreciated :)
[07:48] <chaitime> thanks somsip haram zada
[07:48] <somsip> joachimhs: it's the Ubuntu support channel, so we talk about Ubuntu support. If you want general advice, try #linux
[07:49] <joachimhs> somsip: ok, thanks :)
[07:49] <somsip> chaitime: insults will not get you unbanned either
[07:49] <Lope> I'm running ubuntu 14.04 trusty, and I wanted to run a newer virt-manager (>=1.0). First I checked trusty-backports, but that doesn't have virt-manager. Then I added the utopic sources and preferences for apt. http://pasted.co/a3ba6210
[07:49] <wrapper> OK I will ask again, who do I contact to tell Ubuntu 14.04.01 .not. = 14.04.02 please supply the opriginal download or torrent?
[07:49] <chaitime> somsip, you know gujurati?
[07:50] <Lope> I was able to install the newer version of virt-manager from utopic on trusty, but now when I run apt-get upgrade apt wants to upgrade basically every package on my entire system. What's up?
[07:51] <wrapper> Ok sony won, I'll put Kubuntu 14.04.01 on it
[07:52] <debian88811> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[07:52] <debian88811> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[08:05] <Phveektor> I saw online some weeks back that linux kernel 4 is out, can someone ppls educate me on its advantages?
[08:05] <somsip> Phveektor: www.kernel.org is the best place to read up on it
[08:05] <Phveektor> Thnx
[08:06] <Dbugger> Good morning, my people
[08:07] <Lope> can someone please help me with running utopic packages on trusty?
[08:07] <gagalicious> i have multiple monitors... how do i use yakuake... such that each monitor will display it's own yakuake by pressing F12? currently, when i press F12. only the main monitor shows regardless of which monitor my mouse is at
[08:17] <Thrival> hello everyone. What is the best IRC client for Ubuntu?
[08:17] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/10252602  anyone can help me, why my laptop crash i want to know
[08:18] <ubu> Thrival, hexchat
[08:19] <Thrival> Thank you, Ubu
[08:21] <ubu> Thrival: in Hexchat u can turn off all of these notification messages,  (when people join/quit/change names, etc)  so that it is ONLY messages that u see
[08:21] <dw1> irssi :D
[08:22] <ubu> Thrival: Settings > preferences > general > turn-off-join-messages  & nickname-switch
[08:22] <Lope> can someone help please? why does apt want to upgrade my entire trusty install to utopic? http://pasted.co/424ac6c9
[08:23] <Dbugger> If I have a forwarding rule in "if-pre-up.d/iptablesload", will it run before or after passing the firewall?
[08:24] <nibbler> Dbugger: as part of the firewall?
[08:24] <Phveektor> Lope: guess u're running an old or unstable version
[08:26] <Dbugger> nibbler, what do you mean?
[08:26] <Lope> no I'm running trusty.
[08:28] <ubu> Lope: not sure about ur problem.   But now in Ubuntu, u can just type "apt"  instead of "apt-get".  It's a shortcut that applies to most stuff.  type "man apt" for more info
[08:29] <pandb> anyone want to see what I did with perl + python + SYSV message queues + icecast?
[08:29] <pandb> http://laoche.caster.fm/
[08:34] <Lope> okay, fixed it. Added this to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00default-release APT::Default-Release "trusty";
[08:41] <family> is there somebody
[08:46] <Lope> I think there are numerous bodies.
[08:55] <lyn> hello
[08:55] <lyn> someone here?
[08:56] <lyn> anyone else?
[08:56] <hateball> !ask | lyn
[08:56] <Dbugger> I have this rule in ufw "after.rule": "-A POSTROUTING --dport 80 -j REDIRECT -s 10.0.3.101". What I try to do is forward all incoming through port 80 to 10.0.3.101, but I get this error: `iptables-restore v1.4.21: unknown option "--dport"`. What did I do wrong?
[08:57] <lyn> sorry
[09:05] <tibrox> dropbox is borked for me on ubuntu 14.04.  I've tried via repo (will only run via su - ).  When I install headless I need to run as ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd & .  Ticking the setting in the daemon icon doesn't help either
[09:05] <tibrox> I'm about at my wits end!
[09:21] <RealPanV> Guys. can you help?
[09:23] <edward__> i have added my user to new group but the group is not listed in nautilus permission tab
[09:25] <RealPanV> Could I have some help?
[09:25] <RealPanV> Please?
[09:25] <RealPanV> I am waiting like a whole day.
[09:25] <edward__> i have added my user to new group but the group is not listed in nautilus permission tab
[09:27] <bojan> Hi buddies i have a doubt that i am working as linux admin for past two years without done any certification..I want to move to next level..But i dont know what will be the next level to study and also the openings about..Can anyone pls guide me anout this ??
[09:32] <scx> hello
[09:32] <scx> Is "ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso" LiveDVD image?
[09:33] <k1l_> yes
[09:34] <scx> k1l_: thanks
[09:34] <RealPanV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/639223/problem-with-controller-from-a-local-manufactor-on-15-04 I need help with that
[09:43] <RealPanV> Hey http://askubuntu.com/questions/639223/problem-with-controller-from-a-local-manufactor-on-15-04 This controller is making my life hard. Please read this post which asys everything and help me
[09:48] <RealPanV> Why people ignore me today?
[09:48] <family> problem is hard
[09:48] <mmc> hello everyone
[09:49] <mmc> i installed ubuntu-gnome 14.04.1 on my laptop but i have a big problem with gnome-shell process
[09:49] <DJJeff> I use ubuntu linux to reverse virus and malware does that make me a failure and a looser
[09:50] <mmc> gnome shell process 100% or more usage   please help me to solve it
[09:50] <DJJeff> just yesterday I find botnets that hackers use to ddos people with
[09:51] <DJJeff> I recorded my terminal session and put it online
[09:51] <DJJeff> https://asciinema.org/a/5uxrwlsed1vcclcxb99vtwx5b
[09:51] <DJJeff> *giggles*
[09:51] <k1l_> DJJeff: that better suits into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel. this is ubuntu support only
[09:52] <DJJeff> ok you are right IT Security is off topic and very boring
[09:53] <k1l_> DJJeff: your attitude is not wanted in here and intentional offtopic is unfair to the users joining this channel to get help. now you are  muted.
[10:01] <stupify> Hello, world?
[10:02] <OerHeks> hi stupify
[10:02] <stupify> Oh, wow.
[10:02] <xtpeeps> lol
[10:02] <stupify> I'm searching for a bit of help with lightdm greeting
[10:02] <svetlana> hello, stupify
[10:02] <stupify> i'm on xubuntu 14 and trying to change the wallpaper
[10:03] <stupify> Yet somehow changes in confs doesn't do anything
[10:03] <stupify> I have these two files:
[10:03] <stupify> http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot-22062015-124603.php
[10:03] <stupify> And set each to be like this: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-22062015-124911.php
[10:04] <stupify> Still I get default xubuntu picture on login
[10:04] <stupify> Only if i delete these files completely, something changes - everything start looking blocky and w95-like
[10:05] <stupify> So please share if you have some insights.
[10:05] <stupify> *wallpaper for login screen
[10:07] <OerHeks> stupify, all i see are 2 .png commented out with #
[10:07] <OerHeks> and the 1st screenshot is so small, cannot read anything
[10:08] <stupify> hm. maybe I did smth wrong with screenshots
[10:08] <stupify> I'll check that...
[10:11] <wrapper> Hi 14.04.02 does not work with some laptops, i.e sony vaio - I can download kubuntu 14.04.01 where can I get Ubuntu 14.04.01?
[10:12] <mmc> wrapper  : does it support UEFI ?
[10:12] <wrapper> no it is older
[10:13] <RealPanV> Can I take some attention? Since I want  a solution soon?
[10:13] <wrapper> I am back from an hour ago no reply
[10:13] <OerHeks> wrapper, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[10:14] <wrapper> cheers that looks like it
[10:14] <OerHeks> RealPanV, you might want to add some info about your joypad, open terminal: lsusb # and paste the line from your pad in your askubuntu post.
[10:14] <RealPanV> Okay thanks
[10:15] <OerHeks> RealPanV, i wonder if that pad is compliant, if it needs a special driver in windows, you have to write a special driver file in linux too.
[10:15] <OerHeks> else i don't know
[10:15] <RealPanV> I bet it didnt have drivers
[10:15] <mmc> why does gnome-shell use 100% - 150% cpu in Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[10:16] <OerHeks> mmc hard to say, open terminal : top # and see what procvess is hanging/ see if there are zombie processes
[10:16] <OerHeks> *process
[10:17] <RealPanV> Done
[10:17] <Semiarty> well, It's not a macos chan, but I hope someone still will be able to help me out as its also unix based iirc, so if I do ssh through terminal (to Univeristy network) and then open a website with browser from command line, will I connect to that website from the Uni network? or my local one
[10:19] <OerHeks> Semiarty, join ##apple for support, i can only give a wild guess: your local browser
[10:19] <vikthor> hi
[10:19] <vikthor> I have a problem
[10:20] <vikthor> my os ssd is not recognize animore after a hard reboot
[10:20] <vikthor> I try to reboot with boot-repair-disk
[10:21] <vikthor> and G-parted doesn't show my ssd, but my hdd yes
[10:21] <vikthor> what can I do?
[10:21] <k1l_> see in bios if the ssd is seen there at all
[10:22] <vikthor> yes it doesn't show...
[10:22] <k1l_> so maybe its a hardware failure. check if the cables are ok. and maybe check if it works on another pc
[10:23] <k1l_> but if its not seen in bios, than its a hardware failure.
[10:30] <vikthor> l
[10:30] <vikthor> lll
[10:37] <archheretic> Hi, I was wondering, do anyone here know if upgrading my windows 7 to windows 10 will affect my ubuntu partition?
[10:38] <xyzzy__> I might be wrong but I don't think it does unless it overwrites grub somehow. Not sure but that's my guess.
[10:38] <IceBot3000> archheretic: Should be fine, as you're doing an upgrade it leaves the partitions alone
[10:38] <RealPanV> BAck OerHeks
[10:39] <RealPanV> NiceColorCode
[10:40] <archheretic> yes that was my though too, worst case scenario it overwrites grub
[10:40] <archheretic> but that is fixable
[10:40] <xyzzy__> In which case, just boot a recovery disc and fixmbr
[10:40] <xyzzy__> no wait... that's if you're getting rid of the ubuntu partition
[10:40] <xyzzy__> nevermind me
[10:40] <IceBot3000> Most computers now don't have a disc drive
[10:41] <xyzzy__> USB bootable
[10:52] <Offer> Hi guys, does anybody know how to quick fix win mbr from root terminal?
[10:52] <k1l_> Offer: use a windows cd.
[10:53] <Offer> ok, is there a tiny win.iso for ?
[10:54] <k1l_> Offer: you want the windows bootloader to be repaired? you will nee a windows cd/usb and the help of ##windows
[10:55] <norbert> does Ubuntu 15.04 not have Steam? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/steam-launcher/
[10:55] <norbert> one cannot apt-get install it?
[10:55] <android_develope> This is not on topic here, but I know that Fedora 20 will reach EOL in 24 hours
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:55] <Offer> Thanks, i'll
[10:56] <k1l_> android_develope: you are right, its not topic in here :)
[10:56] <IceBot3000> Fedora? *tips hat*
[10:56] <k1l_> !info steam | norbert
[10:56] <android_develope> Top o' the morning (or night) to ya :)
[10:57] <k1l_> norbert: so make sure multiverse is enabled, then install the package "steam"
[10:57] <android_develope> Yes, it is apt-get install steam
[10:57] <norbert> k1l_: alrighty
[11:10] <Vortexza> Hello all, I have a Nvidia 850M but I am not too sure as to which driver to install? I installed the wrong one yesterday and my ubuntu wouldn't recognize my screens and I had to repair in the console. Any ideas?
[11:10] <Vortexza> It's a laptop GPU
[11:12] <k1l_> Vortexza: what ubuntu is it? and what driver did you test?
[11:13] <ubuntu127> hi all
[11:14] <ubuntu127> i need some help to compile the following library https://github.com/MattNapsAlot/webstor on Ubuntu 14.04.2.
[11:14] <ubuntu127> i have installed the required libraries
[11:15] <ubuntu127> but when i run make i get the following errror
[11:16] <Ben64> ubuntu127: you should contact the developer for help with it
[11:16] <IceBot3000> Ben64: How is it the original authors role to help a newcomer learn about compiling?
[11:17] <ubuntu127> Ben64 yes i know i tried here because i need a quick help
[11:18] <ubuntu127> also because i think it is a problem related to my ubuntu installation because i already managed to compile the library on another pc
[11:19] <k1l_> !paste | ubuntu127 put the whole errors there
[11:19] <Ben64> IceBot3000: it hasn't been touched on github since 2012
[11:20] <ubuntu127> ubottu thank you this is my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11756166/
[11:24] <murcha> any idea for a sequential backup script on ubuntu?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> murcha  better ask in #bash
[11:25] <murcha> MonkeyDust: thanks
[11:31] <wrapper> Hi I asked earlier where I could find Ubuntu 14.04.01 because 14.04.02 does not work with some laptops (sony Vaio) because they are ment for windows. I was directed to Kubuntu which I already know about
[11:32] <OerHeks> wrapper, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ but your request is useless, any update will bring you to 14.04.2
[11:33] <wrapper> ?? i can update - they won't install
[11:33] <OerHeks> oh ubuntu, nope, cannot find that one, which is good btw
[11:33] <wrapper> Sony have made it difficult (impossible ) to load linux easy
[11:33] <IceBot3000> Then why are you buying Sony hardware?
[11:34] <wrapper> I am poor and they are cheep second hand
[11:34] <wrapper> I update old hardware to linux and pass it on to other noobs
[11:34] <wrapper> before i was disabled I was a PhD
[11:34] <wrapper> so it is interesting doin hard stuff
[11:35] <Johnny_Linux> was it in english ??
[11:35] <wrapper> it is UK or USA
[11:36] <hateball> OerHeks: the ubuntu image repo looks the same as kubuntus to me http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[11:36] <hateball> as in there is 14.04, and 14.04.1 etc
[11:36] <fullday> CIAO
[11:36] <fullday> ciao
[11:37] <OerHeks> hateball, sure, but i see no desktop 14.04.1/ amd64/i386
[11:37] <wrapper> Thanks - shame there is not a link to that on the download page
[11:37] <OerHeks> only desktop-amd64+mac
[11:37] <wrapper> bugger
[11:38] <hateball> that's what you want
[11:38] <OerHeks> not even the torrent http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[11:38] <hateball> OerHeks: the files still exist tho
[11:38] <OerHeks> hateball, give it to hm then? .. i don't see it
[11:38] <hateball> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[11:38] <OerHeks> + mac iso, wrong one
[11:40] <wrapper> I'll try it if its the only one, bit weird to do that tho'
[11:41] <hateball> OerHeks: ah that's right, my bad
[11:42] <wrapper> I'll post back as soon as I've tried it we'll know for sure...
[11:46] <knob> Hello everyone.  Something happened with one my laptops.  Maybe I powered it off without a shutdown.  Not sure.      The problem is now, when I boot her up, instead of going straight to the WindowManager (Desktop Environment?), she goes into the command line.     She says she is in "Emergency mode".  If I type    systemctl default , she goes into the Desktop Environment just fine.   Yet on a reboot, she does it again.
[11:47] <knob> How can I get "out" of this?   Do I have to run a check command on the disk, or something?  Not sure what to do
[11:52] <zack_s_> how can I connect via ftp to ubuntu server?
[11:53] <sarath> hello
[11:54] <knob> zack_s_, do you have ssh installed on the server?
[11:54] <Guest94291> ??
[11:54] <knob> The computer that you want to use to connect to the server... is it linux? Windows? Mac?
[11:54] <Metalerfag> sop sop
[11:54] <Metalerfag> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
[11:54] <Metalerfag> YESSSSSSSSSSSS
[11:54] <Metalerfag> FUCK MY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[11:54] <Metalerfag> CUM IN IT
[11:55] <Guest94291> perverted ubuntu
[11:55] <Guest94291> mallus?
[11:57] <sarath_> sarath
[11:59] <sarath_> friend
[12:00] <Vespero> So, I have an exfat harddrive, and when I try to symlink to a folder on it, I get the error "Error making symbolic link: Function not implemented," which doesn't show up on Google
[12:01] <Vespero> My brother (who is generally better at this stuff) said that he doesn't think the drive format has anything to do with it
[12:01] <Vespero> but I have no idea why I wouldn't be able to symlink
[12:04] <HexaByte> Hi guys, by mistaka I have just deleted /etc/local on Ubuntu 12.*. I have no idea what it is for, so I would appreciate if someone could pastebin contents of his /etc/local, so i can re-create it.
[12:04] <HexaByte> preferrably fom 12.04 LTS
[12:05] <chao> you version is not the same as me
[12:05]  * nomic doesn't see a local
[12:05] <SCHAAP137> don't you mean /etc/rc.local ?
[12:10] <rubber_johnny> sup
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> rubber_johnny: how can we help you?
[12:11] <rubber_johnny> I'm fine, thanks, just wasn't sure if my client is working correctly since I only saw an empty buffer, sorry for the inconvenience
[12:15] <HexaByte> tnx guys for the answer
[12:15] <HexaByte> i guess I have not rewritten anything
[12:15] <HexaByte> :-)
[12:17] <zack_s_> knob: sorry, I want to connect from windows, ssh is installed
[12:17] <zack_s_> the server is ubuntu 14.04.2
[12:17] <knob> zack_s_, have you tried with FileZilla?
[12:17] <zack_s_> I have tried with notepad++
[12:18] <knob> zack_s_, here is the thing.    Your server might not have ftp installed.   Yet, you can connect via ssh to it (sftp)... which it already does have installed, and it's actually secure (unlike ftp).
[12:18] <knob> This is really simple, not complicated.   The thing is, Notepad++ is trying to connect using ftp
[12:18] <knob> You have to tell it to use ssh
[12:19] <knob> I am going to check if notepadd++ has ssh
[12:19] <zack_s_> knob: it has sftp
[12:19] <knob> try you connection with that
[12:19] <zack_s_> and FTPES and FTPS as connection typ
[12:19] <knob> Yet, where do you see it?  I just opened Notepadd++... and can't see it
[12:20] <knob> try sftp fist...
[12:20] <knob> first
[12:20] <knob> easiest
[12:20] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there. i refuse the first time google+ to launch an "app" in unity. now it is not more available. how can i add in to the unity launcher?
[12:20] <zack_s_> knob: this works
[12:20] <zack_s_> thx
[12:21] <knob> awesome
[12:22] <knob> zack_s_, for the future... I know ftp is super easy... yet try and use sftp or others.   ftp is very insecure.
[12:23] <codephobic> hi
[12:23] <Sorch> hi
[12:25] <codephobic> I'm trying to manually install (not using the webupd8 repo) Oracle's JDK (8u45), but I need to know the proper location within which to extract and install it.
[12:25] <codephobic> I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 btw.
[12:25] <codephobic> anyone help?
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  what's wrong with the version from the repos?
[12:27] <codephobic> MonkeyDust, nothing as far as I'm aware, I'd just like to do it this way and learn a little about ubuntu in the process.
[12:28] <codephobic> I haven't really made sense of why certain programmes and utilities are placed where they are, within ubuntu's FS.
[12:28] <codephobic> for instance, some apps are in /usr/bin, some in /bin/, some in my local/bin ... it is quite bewildering and annoys me and I want to understand.
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  most soit in /usr/bin/ ... type whereis [program] to get an idea
[12:29] <Caroga> hi all!
[12:30] <Caroga> I remember there was a lvm guru in here, who helped me setup my server at home
[12:30] <Caroga> I now need to reinstall the os and I am trying to install the Grub Boot Loader to my raid partition, but it's failing constantly.
[12:30] <codephobic> MonkeyDust, I do that often, but I don't understand the underlying logic of where the apps are distributed and why there are so many (for instance /opt is another one) places to put them.
[12:30] <Caroga> Anyone who could help me debug this ?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> Caroga: try to ask your issue in channel, so others can read
[12:31] <Caroga> I now need to reinstall the os and I am trying to install the Grub Boot Loader to my raid partition, but it's failing constantly.
[12:31] <Caroga> lotuspsychje ^
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | Caroga
[12:32] <Caroga> lotuspsychje thanks but not really what I am looking for.
[12:33] <Caroga> I understand LVM, I just do not understand why GRUB seems to fail at installing on it.
[12:33] <Caroga> why it's failing: doesn't seem to find the mapper somehow
[12:33]  * turma_pnb deu uma voadera em todos
[12:34] <stiv2k> hello what can i do to determine what is inhibiting suspend on my system? Apparently the suspend is inhibited when the monitor is turned off (idle) i think
[12:34] <stiv2k> and it should not be
[12:43] <simpleuser> Hello there. Is there an ubuntu version without X?
[12:43] <mmc> i have a big problem with gnome-shell process
[12:44] <simpleuser> It's just to test a new things in a virtual machine and I'd like the system to be an ubuntu. I know I could use a debian, but I'd like an ubuntu based distro
[12:44] <simpleuser> a few things*
[12:44] <mmc> gnome-shell process uses 150% Cpu
[12:44] <avis> can you compile ubuntu from source including the kernel ?
[12:44] <MichaelTiebesl> mmc:more then 150%?
[12:44] <Pici> simpleuser: the ubuntu server image has no X.
[12:45] <stiv2k> hello what can i do to determine what is inhibiting suspend on my system? Apparently the suspend is inhibited when the monitor is turned off (idle) i think, and it should not be
[12:45] <mmc> MichaelTiebesl : i can not understand you mean
[12:46] <avis> is ubuntu good enough for military uses ?
[12:46] <manornk> hi, my ubuntu vps suddenly started pointing to default landing page, on every website, can someone please help me.. even on preview website it's the same
[12:46] <mmc> MichaelTiebesl : my laptop has AMD cpu
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> avis: its safer for sure
[12:47] <stiv2k> avis: i cant even get it to suspend when its idle....
[12:47] <simpleuser> Thanks Pici !
[12:47] <stiv2k> avis: i tried linux when i was 16, had to ditch it because suspend wasnt working right.... i try it again 10 years later, with new linux distro and new hardware... what do i see? same problems from a decade ago
[12:47] <stiv2k> kind of silly
[12:48] <stiv2k> why are we STILL struggling with something as basic as making suspend work properly in 2015
[12:48] <avis> stiv2k, shame on them.  shame shame shame on ubuntu.  bring me back lucid lynx with a modern kernel or give me death.
[12:48] <vemacs> have manufacturers opened up their interfaces and drivers yet
[12:48] <vemacs> protip: no
[12:48] <vemacs> for the record, sleep/suspend works on my surface pro
[12:48] <stiv2k> it technically works on my pc if i manually initiate it
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> vemacs: did you use a custom kernel?
[12:49] <stiv2k> but something else blocks it from suspending on its own (gdm... screensaver... something)
[12:49] <compdoc> do you have the same PC from all those years ago?
[12:49] <stiv2k> no
[12:49] <stiv2k> of course not
[12:49] <stiv2k> this is a modern pc, sandybridge
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> guys, stick to ontopic issues please
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[12:49] <stiv2k> i'd say this is pretty on-topic
[12:49] <vemacs> lotuspsychje, nop
[12:50] <vemacs> Surface Pro 1 though
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> vemacs: ok tnx
[12:50] <Pici> Complaining that things don't work isn't on-topic.
[12:50] <stiv2k> Pici: fair
[12:50] <compdoc> we cant talk about things that dont work?
[12:50] <stiv2k> compdoc: lol
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | compdoc
[12:51] <compdoc> seems pretty ontopic to me
[12:51] <stiv2k> its hard to stay composed when you try to get support for 2 days and nobody knows
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: we work with volunteers here, patience is reccomended
[12:53] <stiv2k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239861 <-- my exact issue
[12:53] <stiv2k> finally i find someone else with the same problem
[12:53] <stiv2k> i'm not alone :)
[12:53] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: i'd love to volunteer to help make it better... but i already work full time, im not sure how i can help
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: did you try a no_acpi boot?
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: and wich ubuntu version are you on?
[12:54] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: i dont think it's an acpi problem... suspend technically works... its just that some other program is inhibiting it
[12:54] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: ubuntu GNOME 14.04.2
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: did you ask in #ubuntu-gnome yet?
[12:55] <stiv2k> yes i did
[12:55] <stiv2k> crickets...
[12:55] <stiv2k> there are only 53 people in there
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: did you try other flavors, ubuntu desktop perhaps to check if it has same suspend issue?
[12:57] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: i don't want unity though... i want to actually be able to be productive
[12:57] <Kakila> Hi all, everytime I run rsync or scp from a host, it gets added to /etc/hosts.deny in the server. Why?
[12:58] <Click66> hi guys, anyone a good book about security? All the books I've found are from 2008 so I'm afraid they are a bit outdated?
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: its just for testing purposes
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !security | Click66
[12:59] <Click66> thx
[12:59] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: okay
[12:59] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: maybe i can do it in a VM?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: you can also try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg to see suspend issues in realtime
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: sure test a few things out
[12:59] <Click66> @lotuspsychje but thats not what I want. I just want a book that explains how everything works. Not how to install some things?
[13:00] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: i got one of my favorite games running in windows in virtualbox (wouldnt work on wine).... that is a HUGE leap forward in getting away from using windows... this suspend thing is the only quirk left otherwise i would have a perfect system
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> Click66: security is a very wide topic...
[13:01] <manornk> Anyone who can help me for ubuntu server, Plesk, in PM? please, I am desperate
[13:02] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje_: welcome back
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> manornk  tell it in the channel
[13:04] <manornk> MonkeyDust: somehow every website on my vps stared pointing to default landing page, not sure what it is, checked everything on google, the same thing.
[13:05] <manornk> MonkeyDust: even Preview of the website points to landing page
[13:06] <manornk> And I would appreciate it up to the sky if someone could've helped me
[13:06] <Ben64> manornk: sounds like bad apache config, but idk how plesk does stuff
[13:07] <manornk> I know that apache httpd vhosts are fine.
[13:07] <Ben64> they probably aren't
[13:08] <manornk> Ben64, one guys on apache channel checked them and they said it
[13:09] <mmc> any solution to solve problem of gnome-shell process that uses 150% Cpu   ?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: ubuntu version?
[13:11] <mmc> lotuspsychje : ubuntu gnome 14.04.1
[13:12] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: did you have this kind of issue on lighter versions?
[13:13] <mmc> lotuspsychje : no   but my cpu is good to run any program
[13:14] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: wich cpu would that be?
[13:14] <mmc> Amd cpu A8
[13:15] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: i would try ubuntu desktop 14.O4.2 see if you have same cpu usage
[13:17] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: just for the info, what kind of grafix driver+ chipset do you have?
[13:18] <yecril71pl> Nautilus does not allow me to make a link to /etc
[13:19] <zzarr> yecril71pl: tried in terminal?
[13:19] <yecril71pl> Yes, lots of times.  It always works in terminal.
[13:20] <yecril71pl> But I do not know how to do it in Nautilus.
[13:21] <zzarr> can you make the link in terminal or do you get an error message?
[13:21] <yecril71pl> I can make the link in the terminal.
[13:22] <carter1> hi, I have a RAID 10 array that is a logical volume group that I'm trying to remount after a reboot and getting a weird error
[13:22] <carter1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11756751/
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> !raid | carter1
[13:23] <zzarr> sorry, I don't know how to use Nautilus to link
[13:23] <carter1> thanks lotuspsychje but I've been looking at those
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[13:23] <carter1> I think the problem is that my /etc/fstab is set up wrong, but I've been using this for six months without a problem, would you mind looking at the dmesg | tails I posted above?
[13:23] <yecril71pl> Ordinarily, you link with Make link, but that is disabled in /.
[13:25] <k1l_> yecril71pl: you dont have the filepermissions with nautilus to do that in /
[13:25] <yecril71pl> But I do not want the link to end up in /.
[13:25] <k1l_> or in /etc
[13:25] <yecril71pl> I want the link to be placed in my directory.
[13:26] <giacomo> Hi all
[13:26] <carter1> hi gladely
[13:26] <carter1> errr, hi giacomo
[13:32] <Nooby_One> hello, HP pavillion laptop, ubuntu 14.04 ... i want to delete calibre, can i rely on ubuntu software center to delete all and components, or if the best way to do it is in the terminal, can somebody help me with a "step-by-step" how to?
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> !purge | NoobSaibot
[13:34] <yecril71pl> How do I flush DNS cache?
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Nooby_One: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[13:36] <Nooby_One> @lotuspsychje: do i have to do a remove command followed by the purge one, or just do the purge one?
[13:37] <dougquaid> I added a module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but it still gets automatically loaded after I do rmmod. Do I need to reboot it for that change to take effect?
[13:37] <Nooby_One> and is the package name always the same as the name it shows in the sidebar? in my case "calibre"?
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> Nooby_One: you can apt-cache policy packagename to check
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[13:42] <lotuspsychje> SkyRocknRoll: can we help you?
[13:44] <adrientofu-fr> hello, I have a problem on my Opensmtpd config: http://pastebin.com/0htsRF48 can you help me ?
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[13:48] <suntux> after apt-get upgrade sound become stuttering if am not touching mouse and keyboard. CPU tries go to suspend and sound now playing in any player stuttering. I think it is problem with drivers, but not with kernell, because i have tried reboot with another one. Any advices?
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> suntux: ubuntu version?
[13:49] <suntux> lubuntu 15.04
[13:49] <suntux> Linux s 4.1.0-040100rc8-generic #201506150335 SMP Mon Jun 15 02:37:00 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> suntux: try a fresh install lubuntu 14.04 perhaps to get things more stable
[13:51] <Nooby_One> i think a reboot is necessary ... thanks to all for helping!
[13:51] <Nooby_One> have a nice day!
[13:51] <suntux> i have pasted this bug to bugzilla.kernell.org and to ubuntu bugtracker
[13:52] <suntux> but am not shure where from it comes
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> suntux: upgrades can get tricky sometimes, check your syslog and dmesg to investigate
[13:52] <k1l_> suntux: the official 15.04 kernel is a 3.19 one. so the mainline kernels are for testing only anyway.
[13:52] <suntux> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100281
[13:53] <suntux> k1l_: i have tried some kernells
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[13:53] <k1l_> suntux: so file a bug against the mainline kernels and tell them what is wrong and what the solution is if known.
[13:55] <asido> why don't I see this module version: http://packages.ubuntu.com/uk/utopic/libdbd-pg-perl on this machine: https://gist.github.com/Asido/9a6098bbb4232feff62e ?
[13:55] <k1l_> asido: you are compartin trusty vs utopic
[13:56] <suntux> I want to find out where this bug comes from. I want you help me find out why this bug appears. Am newbie and don't know yet any tools for that.
[13:56] <k1l_> asido: or to be more precise: that system got trusty repos enabled. so better check sources.list what is going on there
[13:56] <asido> k1l_, my machine says utopic and the website is universe, which is utopic
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> suntux: check your logs mate, it might hold relevant information
[13:56] <k1l_> asido: or start with a "sudo apt update" to make sure to have the latest packages lists
[13:56] <asido> k1l_, I did dist-upgrade though
[13:56] <zack_s_> I connect to ubuntu server via putty from windows, how can I setup real "cls" command in putty?
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> !bug | suntux as k1l_ sugested
[13:57] <zack_s_> so that the scroll buffer and the screen is cleared?
[13:57] <zack_s_> I tryed: alias cls='clear && printf "\033c"'
[13:57] <zack_s_> but it doesnt worked
[13:57] <k1l_> asido: please run a "sudo apt update " and a "cat /ect/apt/sources.list" and put both into a pastebin
[13:57] <zack_s_> any suggestion?
[13:57] <suntux> ubottu: am already do that
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> zack_s_: have you tryed the #ubuntu-server channel?
[13:57] <EriC^^> zack_s_: you cant have an && in an alias i think
[13:58] <carter1> okay, I restarted my computer again, and now 2/3 of my raid drives are gone. i really could use some help if anyone is familiar with mdadm
[13:58] <k1l_> asido: did you "apt-get dist-upgrade" to get from 14.04 to 14.10? that is not how you upgrade a ubuntu.
[13:59] <vedranm> hello, anyone using Asus VT207N touchscreen monitor? I'm looking into buying it, but I can't find a source claiming it works on Linux except a single post on LinuxCNC.org
[13:59] <asido> k1l_, I did exactly that
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> vedranm: recent ubuntu versions should be able to have touch support
[14:00] <k1l_> asido: we have "sudo do-release-upgrade" to get to 14.10. we dont use the old debian way on ubuntu
[14:00] <vedranm> lotuspsychje: for this particular monitor?
[14:00] <vedranm> I'm aware of touch support in general
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> vedranm: what Os comes by default?
[14:00] <k1l_> asido: but please show the output from that  commands to let us get a clue in what state that system is now
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> vedranm: or its just touch monitor without os
[14:01] <Nooby_One> ubuntu 14.04: my trash does not empty: every time i want to "empty trash" i get an error message saying that a time out was reached
[14:01] <asido> k1l_, https://gist.github.com/Asido/120ed2232838148ca4c7 , https://gist.github.com/Asido/f38940f6029e1d1fd5e1
[14:01] <zack_s_> EriC^^: ok, how can I combine cmds then?
[14:01] <asido> k1l_, I am running do-release-upgrade now
[14:01] <EriC^^> zack_s_: make a function, bla(){ cmd1 && cmd2;}
[14:02] <vedranm> lotuspsychje: it's a touch monitor, it can work on any OS
[14:02] <k1l_> asido: yes, that sources.list is all 14.04 but just one repo changed to 14.10. so that is nearly a mess.
[14:02] <vedranm> I'm wondering if there is a list of supported/unsupported touch monitors somewhere, as I was not able to find one
[14:03] <zack_s_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11756952/ something like this?
[14:03] <Section1> hi guys ...someone running ubuntu oon power8 ?
[14:04] <Section1> as kvm host ?
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> vedranm: maybe the ##hardware guys can find a linux link with your monitor?
[14:05] <EriC^^> zack_s_: yeah, that would work
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> Section1: you can ask specific questions in this channel, so other can try to help
[14:05] <RealPanV> EriC^^,
[14:05] <RealPanV> Check out my post I made
[14:05] <vedranm> lotuspsychje: thx
[14:05] <RealPanV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/639223/problem-with-controller-from-a-local-manufactor-on-15-04
[14:06] <RealPanV> EriC^^, please check
[14:06] <RealPanV> it
[14:06] <Section1> lotuspsychje, ok..im trying to run a vm with ubuntu amd64 under ubuntu ppc64le on power8... but we see that the VM(amd64) see a 512mhz cpu so its very very slow.
[14:06] <RealPanV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/639223/problem-with-controller-from-a-local-manufactor-on-15-04
[14:07] <RealPanV> I can't post on ##hardware
[14:07] <Section1> i try differents cpu configurations in kvm but always shows 512mhz
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> RealPanV: register
[14:08] <RealPanV> How? /register doesn't work
[14:08] <RealPanV> !register
[14:08] <RealPanV> oops
[14:08] <zack_s_> EriC^^: its seems to be called
[14:08] <zack_s_> but I don't get the desired effect
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> Section1: did you try the #kvm guys?
[14:08] <Section1> not yet
[14:08] <EriC^^> zack_s_: did you source the file you put it in?
[14:09] <EriC^^> zack_s_: btw you don't need to use the alias anymore
[14:09] <EriC^^> you can call the function cls and just run cls in the shell
[14:10] <jjack> Hi all
[14:10] <EriC^^> zack_s_: i think you're trying to do what the command "reset" can possibly do
[14:10] <EriC^^> give it a shot
[14:10] <EriC^^> RealPanV: i don't know how i could help you with that
[14:10] <suntux> Is it enough to backup /home if i want to keep installed soft and data, for example, opera and it's cache and bookmarks?
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> RealPanV  ask help on registration in #freenode
[14:11] <suntux> Am going to reinstall ubuntu
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> !backup | suntux
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> suntux  backup /etc/ too
[14:12] <RealPanV> EriC^^, then I don't know what to do. Thanks anyways
[14:12] <EriC^^> calibrate it
[14:12] <EriC^^> how old are you?
[14:13] <RealPanV> EriC^^, Calibration doesnt work since the joystick doesnt give an output axis
[14:13] <RealPanV> BRB I will ask on ##hardware
[14:14] <suntux> hmm i no need to backup /home at all there are /Documents and /Downloads that i not use at all.
[14:14] <dougquaid> how can I prevent a module from being loaded? I put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but it still loads after I removed it with rmmod
[14:15] <moemen> Hey, what's up guys?!
[14:15] <zack_s_> EriC^^: no "reset" is not the desired command
[14:16] <god_phantom> man all i wanna do is go to sleep
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> !ot | god_phantom
[14:17] <suntux> LOL all data is in hidden directories. Am almost have to do a big mistaken.
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !blacklist | dougquaid
[14:19] <future_> i think i ofund it !
[14:20] <zack_s_> EriC^^: this works now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11757018/
[14:20] <zack_s_> I have to restart the server to take effect
[14:20] <zack_s_> is there some cmd I can adjust '.bashrc' without restart the server?
[14:21] <dougquaid> lotuspychje: Unless that requires a reboot to take effect it doesn't work
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> zack_s_  try 'bash' as command, then exit
[14:21] <EriC^^> zack_s_: source .bashrc
[14:22] <Guest96835> hello
[14:22] <zack_s_> EriC^^: I cannot even find the file via cmd line
[14:22] <zack_s_> via putty
[14:22] <zack_s_> I used for editing notepad++ via ftp
[14:22] <EriC^^> zack_s_: it should be in your home dir
[14:22] <dougquaid> zack_s_: ls -la
[14:22] <zack_s_> yeah, but it will not be shown by standard
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> dougquaid: you might try reboot
[14:23] <zack_s_> how can I show by standard hiffen files via ls?
[14:23] <zack_s_> hidden
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> dougquaid: wich devices are you trying to get to work anyway?
[14:23] <EriC^^> type la
[14:23] <god_phantom> ls -la
[14:23] <dougquaid> zack_s_: ls -la
[14:23] <EriC^^> it's an alias for ls -a
[14:24] <zack_s_> EriC^^: I have to setup an own alias?
[14:24] <dougquaid> lotuspsychje: It's a 3g modem that usb_storage keeps taking control of. I'm using usb_modeswitch, but I can't get it to the right mode because of usb_storage
[14:24] <zack_s_> it is not possible by default to show hidden files?
[14:24] <EriC^^> zack_s_: no, ls -a will show hidden files
[14:25] <EriC^^> zack_s_: if you're talking about an ftp client then it depends on your ftp client i guess, look for show hidden files or so
[14:25] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:25] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> dougquaid: exact type of modem and ubuntu version please?
[14:25] <zack_s_> EriC^^: no, the FTP will show my by default the hidden files
[14:25] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:25] <zack_s_> I mean I want to show by default hidden files, when I input "ls"
[14:25] <EriC^^> zack_s_: ok, ls -a in the terminal will show hidden files
[14:26] <EriC^^> zack_s_: ls -la will show hidden files in long listing format
[14:26] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:26] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> zack_s_  alias ls='ls -la'
[14:26] <god_phantom> zack_s_: ll
[14:26] <god_phantom> oh snap what k1l_ do
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> zack_s_  ll is better and faster
[14:27] <zack_s_> god_phantom: thanks
[14:28] <god_phantom> in fact, ll is already setup in the default .bashrc if i'm not mistaken
[14:28] <god_phantom> as an alias for ls -laF
[14:34] <yorwos> after i added a new user , im receiving a msg on all user accounts i have : " sudo: unable to resolve host ofoto" (ofoto is the name of my computer) but the command still seems to work , why am i getting this error msg on all my sudo commands?
[14:35] <yorwos> i added the user by "sudo adduser xxx" and then "sudo add user xxx sudo"
[14:35] <Pici> yorwos: did you also change your hostname recently?
[14:36] <yorwos> um no i dont think so
[14:36] <yorwos> i might have a long time ago
[14:36] <Pici> Just double check the files ubottu suggests:
[14:36] <Pici> !hostname
[14:38] <yorwos> its months since ive changed it i dont remember what the hostname was , the error appeared today
[14:38] <yorwos> let me check hosts and see whats going on there
[14:39] <eletious> hellp
[14:39] <eletious> *hello
[14:39] <jpentland> Is there a command I can use to restore my USB power supply if a faulty peripheral drew too much current?
[14:40] <eletious> Quick question - how different are debian and Ubuntu in regards to how they handle disk issues
[14:41] <k1l_> eletious: should be very similar
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> eletious: whats your specific question? you have a bad drive?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> eletious  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[14:41] <yorwos> 127.0.0.1 localhost , 127.0.1.1 oldhost name , should i appoint the new hostname on the same 127.0.1.1 or something like 127.0.1.2 ?
[14:42] <eletious> Well, i have a debian laptop with a bad drive it looks like
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> jpentland: maybe a question for ##hardware?
[14:43] <eletious> but the debian channel is always empty
[14:43] <jpentland> lotuspsychje, well isnt there a command that just enables it again in software? If I reboot the machine then it works agian
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> eletious: you can install ubuntu and check your logs for hd errors
[14:44] <eletious> Well... this is where it gets funky
[14:44] <eletious> I can't install Ubuntu without using a different machine to do it as the BIOS is locked down on this one
[14:45] <eletious> it's a cashed out device at the repair center I work at, but as we had already ordered parts we decided to repair and use it
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> eletious: reset bios password with a bootcd like hirens boot cd
[14:45] <eletious> I can't use hirens because I can't boot from the ODD
[14:45] <eletious> unless using hiren's on a hard drive is a thing?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> eletious: can you boot usb sticks?
[14:46] <eletious> nope, tried it
[14:46] <eletious> the original owner was a school
[14:46] <eletious> so they tightened it as much as possible
[14:46] <Pici> yorwos: I'd use the new hostname.
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> eletious: load an ubuntu .iso into your grub and install from there?
[14:47] <eletious> I feel dumb for asking but how do I do that?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> eletious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[14:47] <stiv2k> if 15.04 is stable, will 14.04 be eventually updated to more closely match the software in 15.04?
[14:47] <stiv2k> how does it work?
[14:48] <stiv2k> for LTS... like, will 14.04 still be running the same gnome in year 2019?
[14:48] <amari> stiv2k: You will only get the hardware enablement stack from 15.04, so new kernel and graphics drivers
[14:48] <mcphail> stiv2k: no - it doesn't work like that.
[14:48] <mcphail> stiv2k: if you want more modern GNOME on LTS, you'll have to wait for 16.04
[14:49] <eletious> lotuspsychje: Oh!  So I would boot, and then at the bootloader menu would specify where the ISO is to boot from?
[14:49] <stiv2k> mcphail: ah
[14:49] <yorwos> ok i think this is fixed doing a restart if i dont come back its fixed thanx
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> eletious  find out if debian has the 'grml' package ... install it, copy a .iso of ubuntu to the grml folder, update grub and reboot ... then select the iso
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: +1
[14:49] <stiv2k> mcphail: im just trying to devise a plan for my system... to keep it semi-latest but also stable, and avoid doing fresh installation very often
[14:50] <stiv2k> mcphail: maybe do a fresh LTS install every 2 years
[14:50] <eletious> MonkeyDust: I would, but the HDD is borked
[14:50] <eletious> my /var/ is kill
[14:50] <mcphail> stiv2k: eventuall snappy will come along and solve these problems
[14:50] <stiv2k> mcphail: what is snappy?
[14:50] <auronandace> !snappy
[14:51] <mcphail> stiv2k: next generation of ubuntu package management. Won't be ready for LTS on 16.04 but will be along some time after that
[14:51] <leberle> aloha! i was wondering about the notifyOSD, and i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/572469 where they explain that it is not a bug but a feature. I think it really...sucks :D where is a good place to get in contact with devs to start a discussion to change the bubble behavior?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> eletious  http://www.sumopaint.com/home/#app
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> oops
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> eletious  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#grml-rescueboot
[14:52] <stiv2k> mcphail: hmm
[14:53] <skomorokh> My computer connected to "daisy.ubuntu.com" ...I didn't tell it to. Is there a place to turn this off and any other things like it? A list of common packages that make outside connections without being explicitly configured to do so?
[14:53] <stiv2k> mcphail: have people discussed at all what to do with the gigs of legacy information on google that is getting in the way... for example if i google how to do some setting in gnome or unity, the majority of results are from years past
[14:53] <stiv2k> and no longer relevant
[14:53] <stiv2k> because of how much things change in a year
[14:53] <skomorokh> stiv2k: you can restrict your search to an arbitrary date range.
[14:53] <amari> stiv2k: For now if you don't want to reinstall, why not use 14.04 LTS?
[14:54] <stiv2k> amari: i do use 14.04 LTS
[14:54] <stiv2k> in fact i am using 14.04.2
[14:54] <skomorokh> stiv2k: I have search keywords set up in firefox to say, for example, search past two years / one year / 3 months / etc.
[14:54] <stiv2k> skomorokh: that is a good way to deal with it for now
[14:55] <stiv2k> skomorokh: i imagine that new users may not realize this though and often times they might try to follow instructions in some "guide" for old ubuntu, thinking they are being self-reliant, when in reality they could be breaking their system badly
[14:55] <amari> stiv2k: So you can keep it until the next LTS
[14:55] <stiv2k> amari: yes that is my plan
[14:55] <amari> stiv2k: Do you use Unity?
[14:55] <stiv2k> amari: no, on a desktop system, i prefer gnome, unity is too bare
[14:57] <stiv2k> mcphail: amari: i'm wondering if LTS was even a good idea... maybe i shold have just went with 15.04
[14:57] <eletious> MonkeyDust: this is some crazy wizard stuff
[14:57] <eletious> better go home and grab my robes because I do NOT want to reinstall
[14:57] <skomorokh> stiv2k: LTS was a good idea. 15.04 has been giving me a fair bit of grief.
[14:57] <stiv2k> skomorokh: oh?
[14:57] <w0jtas> hello, how can i change network connection ttl in ubuntu ?
[14:58] <stiv2k> skomorokh: like what?
[14:58] <skomorokh> stiv2k: First systemd release; that touches everything
[14:58] <stiv2k> why is it marked "stable" then :P
[14:58] <stiv2k> skomorokh: doesnt 14.04 use systemd
[14:58] <skomorokh> stiv2k: nope, or at least not by default
[14:58] <amari> stiv2k: No, it uses upstart
[14:58] <Evil_Otto> I'm having some trouble setting up a port forwarding ssh tunnel.. I want anything that goes to port 8000 on an Ubuntu machine to forward to a local VM
[14:59] <Evil_Otto> The command I'm using is  ssh -R 8000:localhost:80 ubuntu@<aws machine>
[14:59] <amari> stiv2k: Really you won't notice many changes with 15.04 for daily use. And if you want to keep your system as stable as possible, better to stay with the LTS
[14:59] <amari> It should be rock-solid right now...
[14:59] <Evil_Otto> Anyone see anything wrong with that?
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> Evil_Otto: maybe the ##networking guys know this?
[14:59] <Evil_Otto> OK
[14:59] <stiv2k> amari: skomorokh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239861 <-- editing systemd config on 14.04
[14:59] <stiv2k> doesnt it mean there is systemd?
[14:59] <amari> stiv2k: Why do you want to use systemd right now?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> eletious  what is wizard stuff?
[15:01] <OerHeks> stiv2k, no systemD in 14.04. at least not standard.
[15:02] <eletious> MonkeyDust: haha basically everything involving GRUB
[15:02] <eletious> MonkeyDust: Not really complaining, I get to learn stuff
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> eletious  yes, but you have to understand: we're all rocket scientists
[15:03] <eletious> !!! I want to be a rocket scientist too!
[15:03] <Guest96835> :）
[15:03] <Anticom> Hi all. I've set up an ubuntu server in a VM to act as a remote build host for my c++ projects. Everything works fine so far but now i wanted to shrink the ubuntu server by removing unneccesary packages. Is there a way i can uninstall everything except for a few packages?
[15:04] <Anticom> i need make, gdb and an ssh server. that's all
[15:04] <eletious> Anticom: wouldn't you need a bit more than that?
[15:04] <Anticom> eletious: what else?
[15:04] <auronandace> !mini | Anticom
[15:05] <Anticom> thought gcc was a dependency of either make or gdb
[15:05] <eletious> like the OS
[15:05] <compdoc> Anticom, when I isntall unbuntu server, I only select openssh and samba. its pretty minimal already
[15:05] <Anticom> sure
[15:05] <eletious> If you just want those packages, why not try a different distro? There are several super-minimal distros out there
[15:05] <Anticom> compdoc: hm good point. I installed the vm few month ago for something different and must have checked a few more options
[15:05] <Anticom> time for a fresh installation
[15:06] <Anticom> thank's!
[15:06] <compdoc> good idea
[15:06] <iBurley> Is there a way to get rid of these dash plugins yet?
[15:10] <eletious> "And thus, the newb learned an important lesson: Always check drives before you make them critical"
[15:11] <wdkevinone> Is there any rason why the IP's in my host file would just randomly change on their own? The first 5 entries all have the same IP now and they did not before. It is the weirdest thing.
[15:11] <eletious> cryptbin: um... are you using a dynamic IP?
[15:11] <cryptbin> No
[15:11] <cryptbin> This server has a static IP defined. It's just an internal dev server.
[15:11] <eletious> are the hosts that are referred to in your host file using dynamic IPs?
[15:13] <eletious> i only ask because >5 entries
[15:14] <stiv2k> amari: OerHeks: i only referenced that thread because i'm having the same exact issue as that user, and although I haven't applied the workaround that he mentions, I'm wondering if it will work??? since you claim there is no systemd
[15:14] <stiv2k> amari: OerHeks: it is the *only* solution i have found in all of google that claims to resolve the issue
[15:15] <inerkick> HI installed Cinnamon DE with mdm on top of my earlier my Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome3. . I want to uninstall it and keep my original Gnome3.14  Kindly help
[15:15] <eletious> um....
[15:15] <eletious> Isn't the uninstall apt-remove?
[15:16] <eletious> or am I stupid, and should shut my mouth
[15:16] <stiv2k> eletious: apt-get remove
[15:16] <eletious> stiv2k: gotcha
[15:16] <eletious> inerkick: apt-get remove
[15:17] <stacks88> im using a program called nethogs that is showing me how much bandwidth my server is pushing in and out, http://i.imgur.com/8g30goi.png but what i circled there, it doesnt show the IP of who im sending to. is there any other program you guys know of or a way where i can find out what im ip sending that speed of traffic to ? guess nethogs is not the right program
[15:17] <eletious> um....
[15:18] <inerkick> anyone here
[15:18] <god_phantom> hi
[15:18] <helloworld123456> hi
[15:18] <god_phantom> hi
[15:18] <stiv2k> hi
[15:18] <EvilTerran> howdy folks. I've found myself needing to install a single package (+dependencies) from a newer release... I've been following various instructions I googled up (eg http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/170100): added a file to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ so apt-get can see the repo, and one to /etc/apt/preferences.d/ so that release is only used by request (pinned at -100), but there I get stuck
[15:19] <MotherMGA1> I have ubuntu 15.04 and my wifi card (RTL8723BE) will sometimes stop working. I can sometimes fix it with `rmmod rtl8723be; modprobe rtl8723be`, but sometimes that will just hang the system.  It happens about twice a day. Does anyone here have a fix?
[15:19] <EvilTerran> "apt-get -t" seems happy to install it... but I've got to make it work through Puppet, which has no way of passing that flag to apt-get :/
[15:20] <mcphail> EvilTerran: I don't think anyone is going to support that here. A recipe for a broken system, I'm afraid
[15:20] <inerkick> apt-get remove ?
[15:20] <MotherMGA1> I also have better luck fixing it when it goes out by going to the "network" gui program and clicking "off" on wifi and then "on" again.
[15:21] <EvilTerran> mcphail, ah. hm. I knew it was a bit risky, didn't realise it was quite that bad :/
[15:21] <EvilTerran> I was about to mention how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Recommended_alternative_to_pinning talks in vague ominous terms about libc6, but I guess that's a moot point if it's a bad idea period.
[15:22] <stiv2k> amari: OerHeks: skomorokh: why is that file present if systemd doesnt exist on 14.04 ?
[15:23] <eletious> inerkick: yeah, memory serving you can specify packages to remove
[15:23] <eletious> inerkick: if you want to be super-safe about it, press ctrl+alt+f1 before you do it
[15:25] <mcphail> EvilTerran: when the dependency chain gets broken, the whole infrastructure can collapse. It can get to be a real mess with no easy way to roll back. Fine if you don't mind a full reinstall but not advised otherwise
[15:27] <EvilTerran> mcphail, well, this is all on VMs that can be torn down & re-initialised at a moment's notice... so if the only risk is the install process going horribly wrong, I can deal with that; but if there's a serious risk of it lurking indefinitely, then causing mass breakage at the least-convenient-possible moment in the future, I'll have to rethink
[15:27] <cryptbin> eletious, no, they are domain names we use for our production servers and im just pointing them to the internal IP's instead of the external IP's. they are all static.
[15:29] <EvilTerran> I tried "apt-get -t ..." on a test VM, and that seemed to work fine - but it upgraded a scary selection of dependencies, including libc6, and then I found that warning in the pinning howto I linked to above
[15:31] <EvilTerran> and then it goes on to talk about building packages-from-the-future from source, and I get *way* out of my depth. especially when it comes to trying to express things in Puppet. :/
[15:33] <carter1> if I swap out controller cards, with mdadm still assemble a RAID if I keep the same disks?
[15:34] <mcphail> EvilTerran: snappy-core is at a fairly early stage, but would that suit the needs of your vms better?
[15:37] <Evil_Otto> Has anyone ever seen where starting a service only puts a listener on tcp6, not tcp4?
[15:38] <EvilTerran> mcphail, it looks like it could be wonderful ... unfortunately, this is a legacy system with quite a lot of intertia, so I don't think I'll have much luck making such a drastic change-of-direction. at least not in the time I have available. :|
[15:41] <mcphail> EvilTerran: Unfortunately, I don't think there is a good solution for you :(
[15:43] <EvilTerran> mcphail, :(
[15:44] <EvilTerran> ... here's the funny part - I only need one *tiny* feature of a single package that isn't in the version I'm stuck with. oh well, back to the drawing board, I guess.
[15:45] <EvilTerran> it happens to be the sshd, and we have no physical access to the machines, so I can't really take any big risks with it
[15:49] <myndzi> i'm trying to get a core dump from a crash; i've set ulimit -c to unlimited and can generate a segfault, but i am not seeing anything in /var/crash which is where, presumably apport is supposed to put it?
[15:52] <eletious> Okay, so reading the grml-rescueboot documentation on my break tells me that I can just put an iso in the /boot/grml folder and then update-grub and it'll add that iso to the list of bootable options?
[15:55] <eletious> but then going to install grml-rescueboot throws an error because in order to use apt-get, i need to be able to use /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:57] <eletious> at least asciiquarium still works
[15:58] <eletious> is there a way to repair partitions?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> eletious  paste this, then try again   sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> .3
[16:00] <eletious> is the .3 important or was that a face?  xD
[16:03] <eletious> MonkeyDust: specified filename does not exist
[16:09] <br33n> eletious: Curious what the issue is and your end goal, I see only the grml install issue.
[16:09] <regedit> hello
[16:10] <regedit> so at long last i fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally managed to fix my UEFI/BIOS. problem now is only windows boots, i seem to have lost grub. What do?
[16:10] <EvilTerran> mcphail (or anyone else), say... would "newer version of ubuntu with a few older packages" be less likely to collapse the whole infrastructure than "older ubuntu, a few newer packages"? I might be able to identify the old stuff we're depending on, and upgrade everything else instead
[16:10] <OerHeks> regedit, reinstall grub maybe?
[16:11] <OerHeks> !grub
[16:11] <regedit> OerHeks: thank you!
[16:11] <br33n> EvilTerran: We support what ius in the repos for specific releases and actual issues.
[16:11] <eletious> br33n: im using debian and my /var/ partition went bad
[16:11] <marvindep> sorry, the channel for italian ubuntu users ??? tnx
[16:11] <xangua> !it | marvindep
[16:12] <br33n> !debian | eletious talk to debian
[16:12] <eletious> br33n: came here because debian is usually quiet
[16:12] <EvilTerran> br33n, are you saying "either way, you're on your own"?
[16:12] <eletious> but i am talking to them now
[16:12] <eletious> atm we're all trying to figure out why HP hates us
[16:12] <potatoe_> i need a better macro preprocessor than c99, is there anything installed on most systems? i need to loop through va_args, and be able to define -> and :]
[16:13] <br33n> EvilTerran: We support what is in the repos, unless the only option is outside that in general is all, this is a issue, not contemplation channel is all.
[16:14] <br33n> eletious: Excellent, here we are miffed when this happens, we do not want to be working on an unidentified OS, we exspect you to know the COC.
[16:14] <picklevape> I'm trying to execute sudo smbpasswd -a thepickler
[16:15] <picklevape> it asks for the password, then tells me it failed to add entry
[16:15] <picklevape> is there something i need to configure so that it logs the error?
[16:15] <picklevape> currently nothing shows up in the logs, cant figure out why its failing
[16:16] <picklevape> does the user I add in smb need to be a real system user?
[16:17] <eletious> br33n: the issue I'm having is not debian specific, I don't believe
[16:18] <eletious> and given how closely related the two are (haven't you guys switched to systemd yet?) I figured I'd ask here for a point of reference
[16:18] <br33n> eletious: Please read all the links in the header, we don't do debian period.
[16:18] <EvilTerran> br33n, I see. Before I came in here, I came across advice for very similar questions on help.ubuntu.com, askubuntu, stackexchange, etc - which gave me the impression that I wasn't trying to do anything particularly outlandish or unsupported. If I was wrong, well.. fair enough.
[16:18] <br33n> eletious: You might try ##linux if you have a freenode account
[16:19] <br33n> EvilTerran: It is only wrong if you can't fix it, in my world view. Just be careful is all. ;)
[16:21] <mcphail> EvilTerran: as soon as you move away from curated package management, you are more likey to end up with a broken system. apt-get doesn't support clean rollbacks, so most breakages require a full reinstall. Honestly, this will make you lose your hair more quickly. I tried it and am now completely bald
[16:21] <br33n> that iis funny, need any wax
[16:21] <joshh20> Anyone here have an idea as to why my TCP initial window appears to be 65535? I am running Mac OS X, and connecting to a Ubuntu 15.04 server
[16:21]  * mcphail lets his scalp glint in the sunlight
[16:24] <EvilTerran> br33n - heh, quite; mcphail - yeah, I fully appreciate that. I think, in the name of being careful (and keeping my hair), I'm going to need to take a few steps back - see if I can come up with a completely different work-around that doesn't involve upgrading sshd.
[16:26] <mcphail> EvilTerran: is there a backport you could use?
[16:26] <br33n> EvilTerran: Support here is just a bit specific is all, I have a few things installed and 3rd party repos but know what I'm doing, and am cloned and backed up.
[16:27] <Elon_MuSk> Can I upgrade Xubuntu 12.04 to Xubuntu 15.04 without downloading the new version?
[16:27] <mcphail> !backports | EvilTerran
[16:27] <teward> Elon_MuSk: no, you can't.  12.04 -> 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 is your upgrade path.  Alternatively, clean install.
[16:28] <br33n> Elon_MuSk: Not a good idea, you would upgrade through end of life releases, possible but the time it will take will be days.
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> Elon_MuSk  backup and fresh install is cleaner, faster, easier
[16:28] <EvilTerran> mcphail, that was the first thing I looked for. sadly not.
[16:29] <mcphail> EvilTerran: shame - backports were sometimes the least evil option
[16:29] <Elon_MuSk> Okay I see, thanks guys
[16:33] <EvilTerran> br33n, fair enough, I wasn't aware when I came in the channel that my plans were outside its scope. is there a better channel for this sort of thing? #break-your-ubuntu or something? :P
[16:34] <br33n> EvilTerran: Not sure really, I'm not familiar with your actual issue, it might help to address that, you may not have all the option known.
[16:34] <br33n> option's  err plural
[16:35] <EvilTerran> br33n, that's a very good point, I may have an XY problem (http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=542341)
[16:37] <br33n> EvilTerran: that is kinda funny here, I've been working on a intercultural communications grad program, so communication gets even tougher cross cultures.
[16:38] <EvilTerran> the original underlying issue is that (for very annoying and long-winded reasons) I need the sftp starting directory to not match the user's home directory in /etc/passwd
[16:39] <EvilTerran> sftp-server has the -d option to do just that, but it was only added in its version 6.2: http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-6.2
[16:39] <EvilTerran> but (for even more annoying, even more long-winded reasons) I'm stuck on Precise, which only has sshd 5.9: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ssh7
[16:40] <EvilTerran> er, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ssh
[16:41] <OerHeks> EvilTerran, why not upgrade? even it is supported till april 2017
[16:42] <br33n> EvilTerran: With a quick web look it appears what you want is in later releases, you might just need to do a ltl 12.04 to 14.04. as OerHeks has pointed out.
[16:42] <DanielCE> hey guys , very basic quesiton i want to move all files in a current folder on folder up for example mv * ../
[16:42] <sympto> hi i have a laptop
[16:43] <EvilTerran> OerHeks / br33n, well... short version: because it's serving several hundred commercial sites, all running on a 10-year-old in-house PHP framework that will never ever play nice with a newer version of PHP
[16:43] <sympto> can i pass it more than one acpi_osi argument?
[16:44] <OerHeks> EvilTerran, sounds like a security hog to me
[16:44] <sympto> OerHeks, looks super secure to me
[16:45] <EvilTerran> we were already blindly suppressing PHP deprecation warnings when I started working here, so going from 5.3.10 (Precise) to 5.5.9 (Trusty) will probably break everything ever
[16:45] <ioria> EvilTerran, you can't use another ftp program ?
[16:47] <n-iCe> guys, can I remove then two terminals are open the selection betwenn those two I don't like the way it works
[16:47] <EvilTerran> OerHeks, oh, you know it. proper security consultants would run away screaming if they saw our set-up. I wouldn't have even admitted any of that if I weren't telecommuting, for fear someone would find our servers from my IP and take the whole thing over.
[16:49] <sympto> :D
[16:49] <br33n> sounds toxic, not a healthy place to be.
[16:51] <mmc> php code doesnt work in html file on apache web server on my system
[16:52] <Fuchs> mmc: is mod_php installed and loaded?
[16:52] <denim> hi there i have installed ubuntu 14.10 desktop on a virtual machine i did nat for network now i can ping yahoo or google through ip but cannot ping or browse through hostname
[16:52] <mmc> i put .htaccess in directory root but it doesnt work yet
[16:53] <Fuchs> mmc: also could you be a bit more specific about "doesn't work"
[16:53] <EvilTerran> br33n, ... yeah, can't really argue with that. :/
[16:53] <br33n> denim: You aware that goes eol next moth?
[16:53] <god_phantom>  uncomment the LoadModule php5_module line
[16:53] <denim> br33n: i just did it for learning purpose
[16:54] <god_phantom> in httpd.conf
[16:54] <EvilTerran> br33n / OerHeks - maybe I should just close all these browser tabs full of ubuntu/sshd/apt-get/etc help... and load up linkedin instead. original plan: update sshd - cancelled; new plan: run! run while you can! :P
[16:54] <denim> br33n: just help me out with the issue i am facing
[16:55] <mmc> please again send message for me i cleaned text
[16:55] <grinchier> denim: have you checked you /etc/hosts?  or /etc/resolv.conf
[16:55] <denim> grinchier: no
[16:55] <god_phantom> mmc: make sure that the LoadModule php5_module line is uncommented in your httpd.conf file
[16:57] <histo> denim: you are having DNS issues. Your guest isn't resolving domain names properly. So it all depends on your network settings. If you want you can specify a DNS or name server in network manager. Set it to 8.8.8.8  and 8.8.4.4  for google's public dns servers
[16:57] <grinchier> denim: check them or paste them
[16:58] <denim> grinchier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11757819/
[16:59] <grinchier> delete that nameserver line at the bottom
[16:59] <grinchier> what does your resolv.conf look like
[16:59] <grinchier> oh that is the resolv.conf
[16:59] <grinchier> ya change that
[16:59] <grinchier> to dns server
[17:00] <grinchier> nameserver  8.8.8.8  or something
[17:00] <grinchier> oh wait i think thats google but i'm not sure google what google dns is
[17:00] <sympto> 8.8.8.8 is so google
[17:01] <grinchier> ok
[17:01] <danieli> 8.8.8.8 (primary) and 8.8.4.4 (secondary) are Google's primary public DNS servers.
[17:01] <sympto> <15ms
[17:01] <licwin1410> Hi guys
[17:01] <grinchier> denim: are you using netowrk manager?  change it in there
[17:01] <danieli> Correction: primary and secondary.
[17:01] <denim> grinchier: it works now
[17:01] <denim> thanks
[17:01] <licwin1410> 123
[17:01] <grinchier> np
[17:01] <sudoMatt> Can anyone recommend an open source alternative to TrueCrypt that's cross-platform?
[17:02] <grinchier> sudoMatt: linux comes with dm-crypt
[17:02] <grinchier> oh cross platform my bad
[17:02] <mmc> god_phantom  : httpd.conf is empty
[17:02] <grinchier> gov't pressured the devs to stop truecrypt i think lol
[17:03] <mmc>   god_pantom: the path : /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[17:03] <sudoMatt> Shucks, thanks
[17:05] <EvilTerran> sudoMatt, CipherShed and VeraCrypt are forks of TrueCrypt. can't vouch for them, though, I just know the names. caveat emptor.
[17:05] <histo> sudoMatt: gpg somefile
[17:06] <grinchier> wow I guess there isn't really...
[17:06] <histo> sudoMatt: sorry gpg -c somefile
[17:06] <grinchier> we're doomed
[17:06] <mmc> god_pantom : where is httpd.conf in ubuntu 14.04 i have not it
[17:07] <grinchier> the gov't might as well put targets on our head
[17:07] <grinchier> for all our enemies
[17:08] <histo> mmc: check for /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[17:08] <histo> grinchier: the gov't had nothing to do with truecrypt stopping, please stay ot
[17:08] <grinchier> keep telling yourself that
[17:09] <belu> belu
[17:09] <belu> asdasd
[17:09] <belu> asda
[17:09] <belu> da
[17:09] <belu> d
[17:09] <belu> ad
[17:09] <god_phantom> scary
[17:11] <mmc> histo : there is not httpd.conf in apache2.conf
[17:12] <ioria> mmc did you install entire LAMP ?
[17:12] <jpds> mmc: httpd.conf is a Red-Hatism.
[17:13] <ioria> apache2.conf, i think
[17:13] <mmc> ioria : yes i install with command : sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[17:14] <histo> mmc: edit your apache2.conf I was saying.
[17:14] <arunpyasi> guys, I needed help
[17:15] <mmc> histo : which line ?
[17:15] <arunpyasi> how to install universal access ? can anyone get its package name ?
[17:15] <histo> !info lamp-server
[17:15] <histo> mmc: what did you install?
[17:15] <ioria> right
[17:16] <histo> mmc: sudo a2enmod php5
[17:16] <ioria> mmc usually is sudo apt-get install php5 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5
[17:17] <mmc> histo ; i installed lamp-server^
[17:17] <histo> mmc: a2enmod php5 and restart apache2
[17:17] <regedit> how can i check the BIOS setting for SecureBoot from within Ubuntu? (I am in UEFI mode)
[17:18] <mmc> histo : thats right i didnt installd them
[17:18] <histo> regedit: still at it on that machine?
[17:19] <regedit> histo: success at last, i actually managed to fix it!
[17:19] <regedit> histo: now i just need to fix grub2
[17:20] <histo> regedit: what did you end up doing?
[17:20] <mmc> histo : i install thoes package that you said but php does not work in html file yes   , i created .htaccess in directory root but my problem is  alive
[17:21] <histo> mmc: did you run sudo a2enmod php5 yet?
[17:21] <mmc> histo : yes
[17:21] <regedit> histo: took a risk and ran the Windows 7 version of the BIOS update in compat mode for Win7, after that succeeded, installed the Win8 version of it - and it worked!
[17:21] <mmc> i ran sudo a2enmod php5 already
[17:22] <histo> regedit: nice
[17:22] <histo> mmc: what did it say?
[17:22] <histo> regedit: So what's going on with grub2 now?
[17:22] <regedit> TJ- will have a fit :D we were like, reverse engineering the BIOS flashing file...
[17:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[17:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> the waldeinsamkeit is back
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need a way to install ubuntu without a flashdrive or cd
[17:23] <regedit> histo: i'm executing boot-repair, it's asking me to confirm that BIOS SecureBoot is disabled
[17:23] <mmc> histo : Module php5 already enabled
[17:23] <darthanubis> Waldeinsamkeit, netinstall
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes how?
[17:23] <regedit> histo: it could be that somewhere along the way Windows repair turned on SecureBoot or something
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> very confused very fristrated...
[17:23] <darthanubis> !netintall
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> i wish i had 8 bucks for a flashdrive...
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> sadly i do not
[17:23] <histo> regedit: I can't think of a way to check from within linux. Not sure if someone has implemented that yet. I know that you can check from within the bios or within windows
[17:23] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: go busking
[17:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> whast busking?
[17:24] <histo> mmc: I'd ask in #httpd
[17:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> im 17...
[17:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> never heard of that...
[17:24] <ioria> mmc testphp.php is working  ?
[17:24] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: play an instrument in the street with a hat on the floor for people to throw in money
[17:24] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: network install or bootstrap
[17:24] <mmc> ioria : yes
[17:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> bootstrap?
[17:24] <regedit> histo: i can reboot and check, the only problem is - from my last visit to the BIOS setup the SecureBoot option was present but greyed out / unchangeable!... wtf?
[17:25] <darthanubis> even netinstall requires a bootcd
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> if i do a network install
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> don't i need two computers?
[17:25] <histo> regedit: weird
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> i only have one computer
[17:25] <darthanubis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/netinst
[17:25] <EriC^^> regedit: ubuntu works with secureboot
[17:25] <sudormrf> anyone have a suggestion for a tool to securely wipe an SSD?  HDParm is complaining
[17:25] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: you will need another system to setup a PXE server, assuming your system can PXE boot
[17:25] <darthanubis> you don't need two computers
[17:25] <ioria> mmc and you have these packages installed ? ( php5 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5)
[17:25] <actionParsnip> sudormrf: dd
[17:25] <sudormrf> dd can do a secure wipe?
[17:25] <regedit> EriC^^: really? all this time the Grub loader was saying "Booting in insecure mode..."
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> could someone run me though installing ubontu 15.4 via netwrok
[17:26] <EriC^^> regedit: that's cause secureboot was disabled
[17:26] <actionParsnip> sudormrf: yes, it will write 0s from start to end if you give it the right optoins
[17:26] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: What operating system are you currently running on the machine you want to install ubuntu to?
[17:26] <regedit> hm
[17:26] <mmc> ioria : yes i have installed them
[17:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubontu saucy
[17:26] <sudormrf> actionParsnip, will it cause excessive wear to the SSD?
[17:26] <regedit> EriC^^: apparently this boot-repair tool wants SecureBoot to be turned off, or something
[17:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> etl
[17:26] <ioria> mmc which version of ubuntu 15 ?
[17:26] <actionParsnip> sudormrf: yes, its one write to every block on the SSD, any tool you use to "wipe" an SSD will do the same
[17:26] <EriC^^> regedit: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:27] <regedit> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/u3du
[17:27] <sudormrf> actionParsnip, hmm.  ok
[17:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> is there some way to mount an iso to my harddrive
[17:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> and just boot from it?
[17:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> my backup harddrive just has my home backed up to it nothing else
[17:27] <br33n> Waldeinsamkeit: saucy is eol,
[17:27] <arunpyasi> how to install universal access ? can anyone get its package name ?
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[17:28] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: just upgrade
[17:28] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> i know!
[17:28] <br33n> Waldeinsamkeit: Er sorry not a LTL.
[17:28] <histo> !eol | Waldeinsamkeit
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes yes i know
[17:28] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: you can add the Ubuntu ISO to a small partition, then tell Grub to boot it. You can then install from the ISO
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> ues
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i do that?
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> Waldeinsamkeit: you can add the Ubuntu ISO to a small partition, then tell Grub to boot it. You can then install from the ISO
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> second
[17:28] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: you will need to use a storage that will not be touched during install, or the data needed by the installer will vanish
[17:29] <EriC^^> regedit: did we ever switch the files for efi?
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> ahh yes
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have two harddrives
[17:29] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: not got any optical media?
[17:29] <EriC^^> i recall your nick, but i don't remember what we did
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope
[17:29] <regedit> EriC^^: which files?
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i use my second harddrive to boot from
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> and install over my main harddrive?
[17:29] <EriC^^> regedit: /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi etc.
[17:29] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: then put the ISO on one drive with a view to install on the other, this will remove the ability of RAID1 if that is what you require
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need no raid
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just use it as a backup
[17:30] <EriC^^> regedit: type ls -l /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[17:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> also i was repartion my harddrive and my come crashed
[17:30] <EriC^^> is that file there?
[17:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> comp crashed
[17:30] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: then great, boot the ISO stored on the 2nd drive and use it to install to the first
[17:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[17:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i mount that iso to my second harddrive?
[17:30] <regedit> EriC^^: not there no
[17:30] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: obviously grub willneed to exist and be configured to use the ISO
[17:30] <EriC^^> regedit: oh ok
[17:30] <regedit> EriC^^: the windows installation media had EFI versions of stuff i think
[17:30] <EriC^^> did you reinstall ubuntu by any chance?
[17:31] <regedit> EriC^^: windows was installed in EFI mode, as was ubuntu, i think
[17:31] <regedit> EriC^^: nope
[17:31] <sudormrf> actionParsnip, thanks.
[17:31] <regedit> not yet at this point anyway
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> so how do i install grub?
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> also
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> i would like to use my thrid harddrive to boot from
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> that way my back up stays safe
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i was partion it
[17:31] <br33n> Waldeinsamkeit: mention these are externals
[17:31] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, one last thing type cat /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:31] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: you already have grub installed, STOP using enter as punctuation also
[17:31] <mmc> ioria : ubuntu gnome 14.04.1
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> and my comp chrashed half way though so now it wont mount
[17:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> no these are all exteernal hard drives
[17:32] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: then use the standing data to recreate the backup
[17:32] <regedit> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/7lsk
[17:32] <ioria> mmc sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[17:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i fix my harddrive
[17:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> i broke it when partitioning
[17:33] <mmc> ioria : i have done it
[17:33] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: When?
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> last night
[17:33] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: was there data on it?
[17:33] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, so windows is booting straight away? did ubuntu used to boot with windows installed?
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> it crashed half way though the partition
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> nothing i needed
[17:33] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: then just repartition it
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just want to wipe it and get it fresh and new
[17:33] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: so you jeapordized your backup?
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i can use it too boot ubontu from
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> no my backup is on a different harddrive
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> that i don't mess with
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> 3 harddrives
[17:34] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: then wh cares :)
[17:34] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: you could just dd the iso to that drive and boot from it
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the best way to wipe and repartion a harddrive
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i can use it too boot?
[17:34] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: this is a whole tonne easier with a removable drive. Do you not have an SD card or USB stick you can even borrow, just to get square
[17:34] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: well first I would just write the iso there.
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope
[17:34] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: then fix it after installing
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> none anywhere
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> why?
[17:35] <regedit> EriC^^: right now windows boots right away. used to get ubuntu grub (used to have an entry in the boot menu 'ubuntu')
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have ubuntu running
[17:35] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: That will be easiest for you.
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> on my main harddrive
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> my harddrive that i need to mount my iso on won't mount
[17:35] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: I'm talking about using one of your externals
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have no externals
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> only internals
[17:35] <regedit> EriC^^: i did run Windows repair at some point, which may have overridden the grub loader with a windows one
[17:35] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: did you say you had usb hard drives?
[17:36] <Waldeinsamkeit> no
[17:36] <Waldeinsamkeit> internal sata harddrive
[17:36] <regedit> EriC^^: and/or when bios was flashed the custom boot menu entries were eliminated...or something
[17:36] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:36] <EriC^^> reinstalling grub should do the trick
[17:36] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: To fix the drive you broke just repartition it, if you want you can just upgrade your ubuntu install, or you'll have to arrange booting the iso and installing new.
[17:36] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah ok i fixxed it
[17:37] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i boot from it now?
[17:37] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: copy the iso to it
[17:37] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: then configure grub to boot the iso
[17:37] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[17:37] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i configure grub?
[17:37] <Amm0n> Waldeinsamkeit, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[17:38] <darthanubis> Waldeinsamkeit, you have a lot of reading to do my friend. The Ubuntu website documentation is very well laid out.
[17:38] <regedit> EriC^^: i added 2>&1 in there, lookout for the error message http://termbin.com/jl5o
[17:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes im new
[17:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> 17 yrs old...
[17:39] <histo> k
[17:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> everything takes like 5 times longer in ubuntu...
[17:39] <darthanubis> no
[17:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i make my computer always show hidden files?
[17:39] <darthanubis> you have to learn when you are new
[17:39] <darthanubis> learning takes time
[17:40] <arunpyasi> how to install universal access ? can anyone get its package name ?
[17:40] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: in nautilus there is the option. The shortcut key is ALT + H (I believe) use the HUD)
[17:40] <Dj_Dexter> tomivs: hi :)
[17:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm
[17:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> seems i do not have permmsisons to acess my hard drive
[17:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i change that>?
[17:41] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: what command are you running?
[17:41] <tomivs> Dj_Dexter, saludos poh wn de lol
[17:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> im just in the computer
[17:41] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: what are you trying to access?  or why do you think you don't have permissions?
[17:41] <Dj_Dexter> tomivs:  yep :D
[17:41] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: are you in the live CD?
[17:41] <EriC^^> regedit: it's ok, type sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[17:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> The folder “dconf” cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[17:41] <tomivs> Dj_Dexter, aquí no se puede hablar español??
[17:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> since i repartion my hard drives i get that message
[17:42] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:42] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: where is dconf located on the disk or what are the permissions for it?
[17:42] <regedit> EriC^^: (directly in /mnt? not like /mnt/something?)
[17:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> what is dconf?
[17:43] <EriC^^> regedit: yes, type sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/boot/efi
[17:43] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: ahh nvm. I misread your response
[17:43] <regedit> EriC^^: wait, i'm confused, should i undo the previous mount onto /mnt?
[17:43] <EriC^^> regedit: no
[17:43] <DanielCE> Hey guys i got custom linux installation, at the moment i have my subdomain a record to my server , i wonder where do i add it to the hosts file, i tried on /etc/hosts but seems like its not there
[17:43] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: I thought you were installing ubuntu? Why are we trying to repair the OS you're overwriting?
[17:44] <regedit> EriC^^: ok so based on mounting the device directly onto /mnt, i shall execute the 2nd command you supplied then
[17:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> i can not copy stuff to my harddriove
[17:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> becuase i do not haver premmissions
[17:44] <EriC^^> regedit: ok
[17:44] <actionParsnip> DanielCE: your DNS should manage subdomains for you
[17:44] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:44] <Pici> ~/36
[17:44] <EriC^^> regedit: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:45] <EriC^^> regedit: type the whole command
[17:45] <DanielCE> ok let me ask it in other words, if i point domain to my server where do i add it on the system to recognize it ?
[17:45] <actionParsnip> DanielCE: are you running BIND?
[17:46] <Pici> histo: Maybe Waldeinsamkeit is trying to install these? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/department/universal-access/ ?
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> The folder “dconf” cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just need to move my iso to my harddrive
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> and backup files to my other harddrive
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> and it won't let me now that ive repartioned it
[17:47] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: is this in the booted OS, or are you booting to a LiveCD of some sort
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> this is the booted installed main os
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have on my hardrive
[17:48] <Pici> nevermind
[17:48] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: ok then make sure your user is the owner of it's $HOME  with:   sudo chown $USER:$USER $HOME
[17:48] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: you dont need to modify the command,
[17:48] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:48] <baja> hello i need help i am stuck on root of my pc and im using uubuntu 14
[17:48] <Waldeinsamkeit> also
[17:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> is there a command that will make it so ubuntu always shows hidden files?
[17:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> and is there a better file manager?
[17:49] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[17:49] <baja> how can i get out of my root
[17:49] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:49] <EriC^^> regedit: grub-install
[17:49] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: better is an opinion, so there is no better nor worse
[17:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[17:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> a different one?
[17:50] <baja> anyone
[17:50] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:50] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: its like saying "better drink", what you get given may not be to your tastes
[17:50] <EriC^^> regedit: update-grub
[17:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> im 17 don't drink...
[17:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i get what you mean
[17:50] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: just install one, there are lots t choose from. I'm a fan of pcmanfm2
[17:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i go into root?
[17:50] <regedit> EriC^^: nice, the output there looked promising!
[17:50] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: nautilus can be told to show hidden files
[17:50] <baja> i was trying to find a way to unistall ubuntu and now im stuck on root
[17:50] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type exit, then reboot
[17:50] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: why do you need to go into root?
[17:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> to change the prems for my harddrive
[17:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> i never use root
[17:51] <regedit> EriC^^: alrighty, that's it then? i'll see ya soon if it worked hopefully :)
[17:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> too much danger of messing things up
[17:51] <regedit> EriC^^: thanks muchly in advance!
[17:51] <EriC^^> regedit: ok :)
[17:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i need to changer some perms
[17:51] <EriC^^> no problem!
[17:51] <baja> command not found
[17:51] <baja> im stuck on my root ubuntu
[17:52] <baja> how do i get out
[17:52] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: I gave you the command to restore ownership of dconf sdettings
[17:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> huh?
[17:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the command?
[17:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> i belive it did not work
[17:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need graphical sudo
[17:52] <dougquaid> How do I prevent compiz from taking up so much CPU in 14.04? Are there some display settings I can turn off somewhere?
[17:53] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: try sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[17:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[17:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> what will that do
[17:53] <DanielCE> actionParsnip: bind?
[17:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> i really do not like running commands i do not know how to undo
[17:53] <baja> fdisk -l
[17:53] <baja> shows alkl drives
[17:54] <DanielCE> my prev tech did it and i just want to add another sub domain that i redirected to that server
[17:54] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: it will change the owner of the files in your home dir to the user
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhhhh
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> my home dir is fine
[17:54] <baja> im trying to delete partition
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need to make it so i own my external harddrives
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> right now root is the only person iwth permissions to use them
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need to change it so i can access them too
[17:54] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: i thought actionParsnip was trying to change the owner?
[17:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[17:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> im not sure his idea worked...
[17:56] <EriC^^> he didn't use -R
[17:56] <regedit> EriC^^: i'm back :)
[17:56] <EriC^^> regedit: wb :)
[17:56] <DanielCE> i got multi domain direct to same server
[17:56] <EriC^^> did it work?
[17:56] <regedit> EriC^^: good news is, grub2 is back in business and my ubuntu installation booted fine
[17:56] <EriC^^> cool
[17:56] <regedit> EriC^^: bad news is, grub reports an error when trying to select the windows boot manager...
[17:56] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[17:56] <Vyse007> I have a folder on a client computer that I want to export to my entire network (using NFS). What changes must I make to my exports file on the server?
[17:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> some advice on launching a graphical sudo?
[17:57] <regedit> EriC^^: forgot the exact wording, something with a GUID and about the file not beind found maybe...
[17:57] <regedit> EriC^^: any way to save the output?
[17:58] <regedit> EriC^^: i need to run for a few min, will be *right* back
[17:58] <EriC^^> ok
[17:58] <regedit> EriC^^: thanks again very muchly! brb..
[17:58] <Vyse007> Anyone that can help me with an NFS query?
[17:58] <EriC^^> np
[17:59] <Johnny_Linux> my cat ate my grub
[18:00] <Waldeinsamkeit> please help me get my perms to my hardrives back
[18:01] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, graphical sudo = gksu
[18:01] <OerHeks> !sudo
[18:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[18:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> im trying to launch gksu nautlius
[18:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i can change the perms of my harddrives
[18:02] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: i have a feeling you're doing everything all wrong
[18:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> proobbly most likely
[18:02] <EriC^^> what are you trying to do?
[18:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> im 17.... in over my head...
[18:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> do you have teamviewer?
[18:03] <EriC^^> no
[18:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill just show you my screen
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> Waldeinsamkeit  what are you struggling with? ubuntu is very easy to use
[18:03] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, what type of partitions are on those drives, ntfs?
[18:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> ext4
[18:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> there all ext4
[18:04] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, oke, i would use chown
[18:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats chown do?
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> change owner
[18:04] <OerHeks> change ownership
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Waldeinsamkeit  what was your original question? what brings you here?
[18:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> http://i.imgur.com/4qvTlwN.png
[18:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok heres my problem
[18:06] <dogstinkz> your mamma wore a condom but the ape Negro she fucked ripped it off and hatched your half nigger ass
[18:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> wtf
[18:06] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: that happens sometimes, so you were saying.. ?
[18:06] <sympto> dogstinkz: german, eh?
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> i can not put anything on my harddrives
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> without perms...
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i fix?
[18:07] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: if they're ntfs then you're not mounting them correctly
[18:07] <Fyxi> What is best IRC client (GUI based) for Linux?
[18:07] <Fyxi> I use XChat actually.
[18:07] <sympto> Waldeinsamkeit, take a look at /etc/fstab and put your drives into it
[18:07] <Tm_T> !best | Fyxi
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> there not ntfs
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Fyxi  the one you like most, is the best
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> there ext4!
[18:07] <Fyxi> !best
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> i use xchat
[18:08] <OerHeks> Fyxi, xchat is EOL, no longer in development.
[18:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> i like it works fine
[18:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> till it breaks i use it
[18:08] <Tm_T> Fyxi: sorry, looks like I forgot the factoid, anyway, "best" is subjective, you got to try what suits to your needs (:
[18:08] <Fyxi> I used on Windows hexchat, I will move into it, thank's ;)
[18:09] <GitNick> I've been trying Komanda, http://komanda.io
[18:09] <Waldeinsamkeit> xchat is same as hexchat just about
[18:09] <GitNick> Been pretty good
[18:10] <Fyxi> I have BIG fps drop on Team Fortress 2 (I am comparing to Windows8 performance). What is issue?
[18:10] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh probbly improper drivers
[18:10] <Waldeinsamkeit> finilly something i can relate too
[18:10] <Fyxi> I have AMD and IntelHD graphic card. Default is AMD.
[18:10] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have 1500+ hours on tf2 in the past year
[18:10] <Fyxi> I moved into AMD Catalyst driver (fglrx).
[18:11] <OerHeks> Fyxi, wine issue perhaps, join #winehq for help.
[18:11] <OerHeks> !wine
[18:11] <Waldeinsamkeit> don;t use wine to run steam fyxi
[18:11] <Waldeinsamkeit> for tf2 it runs worse
[18:11] <Fyxi> Umh, Team Fortress I use steam ;)
[18:12] <BaloneySandvich> Waldeinsamkeit 'sudo chmod ugo+rw' gives others group read write access but you wont be owner
[18:13] <OerHeks> There is a #ubuntu-steam channel too
[18:13] <BaloneySandvich> ull need to append your drives full path at the end also
[18:13] <Fyxi> I run everything using "native" way.
[18:14] <BaloneySandvich> ugo stands for user group others
[18:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the best way to change perms of a ext4 hardrive
[18:17] <OerHeks> told you, chown
[18:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> i was googling
[18:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> seems like chown is a bad way
[18:17] <OerHeks> or that line from BaloneySandvich is not bad either
[18:17] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: is it a ntfs or ext4?
[18:17] <regedit> EriC^^: back
[18:17] <OerHeks> Depends what you want, for 1 user, or all ?
[18:18] <BaloneySandvich> Waldeinsamkeit i said 'sudo chmod ugo+rw /your/drive/Path'
[18:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to be the owner of my harddrives
[18:18] <regedit> EriC^^: latest was: grub option for windows boot manager results in error
[18:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> instead of root
[18:18] <EriC^^> if it's a ext4 chown is the only way, ntfs you should mount it with whatever perms,users you want, or if it's a one time thing just use chmod and chown
[18:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> its ext4
[18:18] <EriC^^> regedit: wb
[18:19] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: ok, if you want to change all files to be owned by you, type sudo chown -R <your user>: /path/to/mountpoint
[18:19] <regedit> EriC^^: truth is I might not care about this issue, since the system boot menu seems to offer a windows boot option, though i havent tried it yet - i assume it works
[18:19] <EriC^^> it'll change the mountpoint as well though
[18:20] <ch33sus> hey im having trouble with the resolution of an external monitor inside my ubuntu 14.04 VM (vmware), i used xrandr to create the mode and added it to the output, but i still get 2400x1350 instead of 1920x1080
[18:20] <EriC^^> regedit: type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> that you soo much
[18:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo chown -R sysop: /media/sysop/Steam
[18:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> that worked perfectly
[18:21] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, have fun!
[18:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> your awesome
[18:22] <regedit> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/2nh6
[18:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> now i need to back up 130 gb of data
[18:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> now that i can move stuff to my harddrive
[18:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> next problem
[18:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i enable alwasy showing hidden files in natilus
[18:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> second if i place my iso in my hardrive
[18:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> and thats the only thing on it
[18:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i boot from it
[18:24] <grinchier> no
[18:25] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: try gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences show-hidden-files true
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Waldeinsamkeit do some reading here
[18:25] <EriC^^> regedit: the windows entry looks pretty normal
[18:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope
[18:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> that did not work
[18:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> still can't see hidden files
[18:26] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, only with grub installed, you can boot an iso
[18:26] <regedit> EriC^^: maybe it just got changed to some other identifier or something, after i ran windows startup repair?
[18:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i instal grub to a harddrive?
[18:26] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: go to edit > preferences > show hidden files
[18:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> wheres edit?
[18:27] <OerHeks> There is a fine manual for isobooting with grub
[18:27] <EriC^^> it's in the menu at the top
[18:27] <OerHeks> but do one question at the time
[18:27] <EriC^^> it's hidden unless you hover over it
[18:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> whers the menu?
[18:27] <allizom> Just press Ctrl+H
[18:27] <wolftune> EriC^^: just a note: I ended up reinstalling OS, now I am back to working, also discovered that it *was* main drive problem and it was a loose connection because of broken screw housing
[18:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[18:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> ctrl h works
[18:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> but im tired of allways pressing cntl h
[18:28] <wolftune> EriC^^: I attached the broken housing to the screw so it's like a nut and at least should be much better than before, system is working today
[18:28] <EriC^^> regedit: hmm it's odd that grub is complaining about the guid, i dont know all grub does is chainload the windows efi file
[18:28] <wolftune> EriC^^: thanks for all your help
[18:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> can someone please point me to the grub install to hardrive guide so i can boot my iso?
[18:28] <EriC^^> wolftune: no problem
[18:29] <Guest50094> hi
[18:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> In any file manager window, click Edit ▸ Preferences and select the Views tab.
[18:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> where is edit located??
[18:30] <Johnny_Linux> on top of menue, roll your mouse over it
[18:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> i see no menu...
[18:31] <dupingping> awesome notes editor: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntusticky/files/ubuntu-sticky-trial_1.0.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb/download
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> can someone give me a screen shot please?
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> im using very old ubuntu
[18:31] <Johnny_Linux> you must be on unity
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes i am
[18:31] <EriC^^> which ubuntu?
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> i still have not figuered out how to get out of it
[18:31] <Johnny_Linux> couldnt tellya
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubuntu unity saucy
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> http://i.imgur.com/1ku79Nw.png
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> herers what it looks like
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> wheres this "edit" ??
[18:32] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: ok, can you explain what your end goal is?
[18:32] <EriC^^> iso etc etc
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> find edit
[18:32] <EriC^^> no, the other goal
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> change prefrences so i can see hiden files
[18:32] <allizom> Do you see that empty bar on the top of the screen? Point the mouse over there
[18:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh duh
[18:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> thank you allizom
[18:33] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: open the file manager, point the mouse to the top and click on edit
[18:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes found it
[18:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok how do i boot a iso from my harddrive
[18:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> i belive i need to put grub on it
[18:34] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: you have saucy installed right now and you want to install a new ubuntu version?
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[18:35] <EriC^^> do you have a usb?
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to boot 15.04 off of grub on a new harddrive
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> use it to wipe saucy off
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> and install 15.04 onto my main harddive
[18:35] <regedit> EriC^^: i guess i'll ignore it for now, thanks a lot for helping me fix the grub+ubuntu!
[18:35] <EriC^^> ok, copy the iso there, and follow this guide to boot it and then install as usual
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> guide please ;P
[18:35] <EriC^^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[18:35] <mnms_> hello world
[18:36] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, no problem
[18:37] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: in the installer make sure you pick to wipe out saucy and install ubuntu instead
[18:38] <EriC^^> make sure it installs to the right place
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> yesss
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[18:38] <EriC^^> do you dual boot on this main hdd?
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> im a little confused here
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> just saucy
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> one partition
[18:38] <EriC^^> ok, cause it might wipe the whole hdd
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> thats fine
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> thats what i want
[18:39] <EriC^^> have you backed up your /home and installed packages list?
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo apt-get install grml-rescueboot
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok did htis
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> where does it put it?
[18:39] <EriC^^> i dont know what that is
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> idk eaither
[18:39] <EriC^^> interesting
[18:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just want grub on my hardrive
[18:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just need to boot it
[18:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> my end goal to boot a iso off a clean hardrive
[18:40] <EriC^^> i'd do sudo cp -a /home /path/to/backup/hdd
[18:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats taht do
[18:41] <EriC^^> copy your /home
[18:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> i did that already
[18:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> my home is backed up to a my thrid harddrive
[18:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> my os is one my 1st harddrive
[18:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> and im trying to get it soo i can install 15.04 off my 2nd harddrive
[18:41] <quants> guys how do i get itunes for ubuntu?
[18:42] <EriC^^> !wine | quants
[18:42] <csmule> If an application is accessing a particular IP address, is it possible it won't show up in netstat,tcpdump? Or must it show somewhere?
[18:42] <SchrodingersScat> !itunes | quants
[18:43] <quants> EriC, i have wine, is there a specic place to download the itunes softwere?
[18:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh really?
[18:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i google this for you
[18:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> https://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
[18:43] <teward> quants: iTunes latest on Wine doesn't exactly work well, believe me I've tried.  (It has a lot of "Failed to Work" items)
[18:43] <OerHeks> quants, check the wineHQ database, it does not work AFAIK
[18:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> try banshee?
[18:44] <teward> OerHeks: i can verify it doesn't, tested today with the latest wine from source and it still doesn't work
[18:44] <OerHeks> Once it works, they change something.
[18:45] <EriC^^> quants: it seems itunes only works with older versions, and some people use a vm to use itunes on ubuntu
[18:45] <EriC^^> *older versions if using wine
[18:46] <SchrodingersScat> vm + usb passthrough is possibly easiest bet
[18:49] <alban> salut !
[18:49] <EriC^^> !fr | alban
[18:49] <Fyxi> umh, is i7-4510U supporting passthrough?
[18:49] <alban> hello ^^
[18:50] <alban> join ubuntu-fr
[18:56] <Fyxi> which AMD GPU linux drivers have best performance?
[18:56] <teward> the proprietary ones?
[19:01] <sympto> teward but its evil http://softpanorama.org/People/Stallman/Images/saintignucius.jpg
[19:01] <OerHeks> sympto, wrong channel for that
[19:06] <ubuntu_user> Hello all!
[19:06] <ubuntu_user> Anyone here familiar with the GNOME flavor of Ubuntu??
[19:06] <grinchier> hello!!
[19:06] <grinchier> i prefer cinnamon
[19:06] <BluesKaj_> he didn't ask that
[19:06] <ubuntu_user> wonderful, are you perhaps familiar with the GNOME flavor of Ubuntu though?
[19:06] <SchrodingersScat> !gnome | ubuntu_user
[19:07] <ubuntu_user> the Ubuntu-gnome channel is worthless, I was told by 2 people "we do not answer questions here, seek another channel"
[19:07] <ubuntu_user> the open source community used to be filled with nice people back when no one cared about Linux commercially
[19:07] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu-gnome | ubuntu_user
[19:08] <SchrodingersScat> ubuntu_user: well, do you have a question now?
[19:09]  * ubuntu_user says I just installed Ubuntu GNOME into a virtual machine (that went fine), but I am trying to set it up to have metacity style menus. Can anyone assist me with this, since the metacity package seems unavailable?
[19:09] <ubuntu_user> yes, since those pages I just looked at were worthless
[19:10] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: Do you want GNOME Shell or do you want another Window manager?
[19:10] <ubuntu_user> Whence I installed Ubuntu (regular) and then installed "metacity" I got some very nice styled menus (the Application menu in particularity), whence I installed GNOME Ubuntu, metacity was unavailable to be installed and the menues are very different
[19:11] <ubuntu_user> What I wanted was to start with GNOME Ubuntu (since all the unity crap wouldn't be there) and then get the menus to look like the metacity I have with regular ubuntu
[19:11] <ubuntu_user> same login style screen and the application menu
[19:12] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: So you're not starting with GNOME because you want GNOME, but just because you don't want Unity?
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> not at all
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> I am starting with GNOME because I want GNOME and the metacity stuff
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> did I do something wrong?
[19:13] <OerHeks> "with regular ubuntu" ?? that would be Unity, gnome-session-fallback is the package to get metacity AFAIK.
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> the regular GNOME is 3, metacity is supposed to be like GNOME 2?
[19:13] <b4332> ubuntu_user: the gnime-shell is mutter
[19:13] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: Metacity is GNOME2. GNOME3 is a very different beast, at least as far as the shell is concerned.
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> apt-cache after installing GNOME Ubuntu was not there gnome-session-fallback
[19:14] <ubuntu_user> I WANT METACITY
[19:14] <ubuntu_user> good grief
[19:14] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: I think Ubuntu MATE might be a good fit for you.
[19:14] <ioria> !info gnome-session-flashback
[19:14] <ubuntu_user> let me try that ubottu
[19:14] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: Please stay calm and respectful. Everyone here is a volunteer.
[19:14] <OerHeks> please tone down ubuntu_user, i read you make the same fun in #ubuntu-gnome, no wonder you don't get answers.
[19:15] <mikelnx> i use mate and love it
[19:16] <ioria> ubuntu_user, see if it helps : http://www.debugpoint.com/2014/08/install-gnome-in-ubuntu-14-04-flashback-metacity-replacing-unity/
[19:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[19:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> im trying to mount a iso to my hardrive so i can boot it any help would be amazing?
[19:16] <monique> hello
[19:17] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: What iso are you trying to boot from? What is your end goal?
[19:17] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, how does the guide not work ?
[19:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> 15.04 ubuntu
[19:17] <OerHeks> [20:35:53] <EriC^^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[19:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> erm
[19:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> i think thats for repartion your main drive
[19:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> and booting off it
[19:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> not booting off a seprate drive
[19:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> and that would work
[19:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i need the command to change perms of a harddrive again ten
[19:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> since i can not put my iso in the grml folder
[19:18] <b4332> Waldeinsamkeit: Had you a flash or disk you would not be here again today.
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes true
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i don't
[19:19] <b4332> this sort of support is enabling
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have no flashdrive
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> and im not getting one for a long time
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> im 17
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> no money to get one
[19:20] <Waldeinsamkeit> for the next three weeks...
[19:21] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: How many hard drives do you have in this machine? What operating systems are currently installed or otherwise avaialable to boot from?
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> three
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> main
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> backup
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> and emty on\e
[19:21] <b4332> all exterior Jordan_U
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> no there all inside...
[19:22] <b4332> Waldeinsamkeit: You said before they were not.
[19:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> there internal!
[19:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> one 3.5 inch
[19:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> and two 2.5 inch harddrives
[19:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the file path of your main hd on ubuntu
[19:24] <bekks>  /
[19:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> hurm
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> i tried that it did not work
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo chown -R sysop: /boot
[19:25] <bekks> you tried what, and what didnt work?
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> soo i want to be able to access all the files in my folder
[19:25] <bekks> Then why do you run the command above?
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo chown -R sysop: /
[19:25] <Ben64> don't
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> becuase i do not have perms for that hd
[19:25] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: NO.
[19:25] <bekks> That command messes up the permissions in /boot
[19:25] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: Do not do that.
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> opps
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> i did it
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> i tired this too sudo chown -R sysop: /
[19:26] <Ben64> why
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> idk
[19:26] <Ben64> don't randomly use sudo
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> erm
[19:26] <Ben64> don't recursively change things you don't know what they will do
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> well im trying to put a iso
[19:26] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: That messes up all permissions. You can reinstall your box now.
[19:26] <Ben64> you're doing it wrong and now you need to reinstall
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> thats what im trying to do
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> reinstall...
[19:27] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: whatever you tried had nothing to do with a reinstall
[19:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> but to do that i need to put a iso in /boot/grml
[19:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> and to do that i need perms...
[19:27] <Ben64> nope
[19:27] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: No, you dont need to mess up permissions anywhere to do so.
[19:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[19:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> opps
[19:28] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: You dont even need to adjust permissions at all for doing it.
[19:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> well right now im back up my home folder
[19:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> cuase im pretty shure im goign to mess something up
[19:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> when i do this
[19:28] <Ben64> you already did
[19:28] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: Right now, you ned to reinstall your system.
[19:28] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: If you don't completely understand a command, especially involving sudo, don't run it without checking with someone who does understand. If you keep going this way you'll break your ability to boot anything before you get the Ubuntu live iso booting.
[19:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[19:29] <Ben64> and anything involving recursion you need to be extra careful with too
[19:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> anyhelp with the reintall
[19:29] <SCHAAP137> reading back a bit... looks like you need to reinstall indeed
[19:29] <root> hi all!
[19:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[19:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> but I CAN NOT!!!!
[19:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> ive been trying all day...
[19:30] <SCHAAP137> that's unfortunate
[19:31] <SCHAAP137> the installation itself is really easy
[19:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> not when you don't have a flash drive its not
[19:31] <SCHAAP137> almost "next, next, finish"
[19:31] <Ben64> so go to the dollar store and get one
[19:31] <SCHAAP137> hmm, true, no DVD burner as well?
[19:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> yep
[19:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have 5 bucks
[19:31] <cusl> anyone fasting here?
[19:31] <Ben64> you can get 5 flash drives then
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm
[19:32] <SCHAAP137> 5 bucks should be enough for a decent flash drive
[19:32] <b4332> Waldeinsamkeit: Have you looked for any local linux or ubuntu groups?
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> what do you mean?
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> i live in oshkosh wisconsin...
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> my buddy normaly helps me
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> but hes at work
[19:33] <SCHAAP137> what's the main obstacle in this?
[19:33] <SCHAAP137> no flash drive?
[19:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[19:33] <bekks> no cdrom either?
[19:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[19:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> and no cds
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> you need a medium to put the installer iso on
[19:34] <rypervenche> I see plenty of USB drives on Amazon for less than $5. You can get them at stores as well.
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> SD card maybe?
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> im in oshkosh
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> my cf card is in my backpack
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> which i can not find
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> hmm, CF card, not sure if your machine can boot from that
[19:34] <Ben64> lots of dollar stores have flash drives, like 1GB or 4GB
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> better get some USB flashdrive
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have three harddrives though
[19:34] <Roxuut> hae you got a smart phone?
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope.
[19:35] <b4332> Waldeinsamkeit: There are groups in many towns and cities here is one example, just a suggestion is all, I would like to see you all set up. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam
[19:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just have three internal hardrives
[19:35] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: Where is the Ubuntu 15.04 iso currently stored?
[19:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> my desktop...
[19:36] <cusl> how do I update in Ubuntu? I'm new here. I just installed Ubuntu in an hour.
[19:36] <ianorlin> I actually think you could technically could use an internal desktop drive as boot media with dd but you would lose all data on the disk so isn't worth it and if you choose wrong one you could lose everything
[19:37] <EriC^^> cusl: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:39] <Roxuut> is wubi  on the ISO, if so mount the image and copy it to your desktop, double click en wala
[19:39] <Jordan_U> !wubi | Roxuut
[19:39] <cusl> I just used wubi for installing this Ubuntu just now
[19:40] <cusl> so what now for me?
[19:40] <Roxuut> ut is still on the 14.04 lts version of the iso
[19:40] <cusl> how do I check what version I'm having
[19:40] <bekks> cusl: cat /etc/issue
[19:40] <Jordan_U> cusl: Boot into Windows and uninstall Wubi. Then re-install Ubuntu in a normal dual boot configuration.
[19:40] <EriC^^> cusl: uninstall it and install ubuntu properly, make recovery disks if you haven't
[19:40] <b4332> cusl: You can move the wubi to a partition there is a wiki, however like all things be backed up.
[19:41] <krishnan_> hello. this question might have already been posted and responded to. hence I apologise for any repitition
[19:41] <ubuntu_user> I just deleted my entire GNOME Ubuntu installation (it is being tested under VMware)
[19:41] <krishnan_> the cloud images for Trusty listed at https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ do not appear to be available on AWS
[19:41] <ubuntu_user> I am installing 15.04 GNOME Ubuntu
[19:42] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: That sounds like the wrong thing to do for you. Try installing Ubuntu Mate.
[19:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[19:42] <ubuntu_user> Ubuntu Mate is GNOME 3 with the metacity style?
[19:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> what are the best drivers for a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam
[19:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> shit
[19:42] <ubuntu_user> cause that is what I want!
[19:42] <ubuntu_user> thanks!
[19:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> best drivers for a AMD Radeon HD 8500M
[19:42] <ubuntu_user> I didn't realize Mate was GNOME3
[19:43] <ubuntu_user> Jordan?
[19:43] <bekks> ubuntu_user: Mate isnt Gnome3.
[19:43] <allizom> MATE isn't GNOME 3, who told you that?
[19:43] <ubuntu_user> Jordan said it was
[19:43] <bekks> ubuntu_user: He didnt.
[19:43] <ubuntu_user> I said I wanted GNOME 3 with the Metacity he said use Mate
[19:43] <ubuntu_user> sure he did
[19:43] <SchrodingersScat> !mate | ubuntu_user
[19:44] <ubuntu_user> ok
[19:44] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: I'm not sure what you mean by "GNOME3" when you very pointedly don't seem to want GNOME Shell, the largest distinguishing change in "GNOME3". Most of the rest of "GNOME3" is apps that can be used in any shell or desktop.
[19:44] <bekks> ubuntu_user: He said "use mate", which isnt "mate is gnome".
[19:44] <ice9> when I try to run GUI app I get this error and it doesn't launch: No protocol specified
[19:44] <ice9> [22732:22732:0622/214251:ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(219)] Gtk: cannot open display: :0
[19:45] <SchrodingersScat> ice9: is your display maybe :0.0?
[19:45] <ubuntu_user> good grief, let me say what I want and then instead of people just blurting things, I can get good opinions that will help me...GNOME2 is over, GNOME3 is current. I want GNOME3, however, the style of "application menu" that I have with Metacity (having installed regular Ubuntu and adding gnome Metacity), is what I want to achieve. Does that make sense?
[19:46] <ice9> SchrodingersScat: no it's :0  also I have changed anything ,it's fresh installation and I'm opening these apps locally
[19:46] <bekks> ubuntu_user: Yes, it does make sense. But that "style" is gone in Gnome3.
[19:46] <ubuntu_user> I want to use GNOME Ubuntu because I am completely disinterested in Unity
[19:46] <ubuntu_user> GNOME3 gets that style by installing metacity I thought
[19:46] <ubuntu_user> is that not true?
[19:47] <ubuntu_user> Metacity as I understand is GNOME3 massaged to look like GNOME2, no?
[19:47] <ubuntu_user> and Metacity requires GNOME3, right?
[19:47] <b4332> ubuntu_user: the fallback gnome is what you're describing at this moment.
[19:47] <ubuntu_user> ok fine, but whence I installed GNOME UBUNTU and did an apt-cache search gnome fallback was gone
[19:47] <ubuntu_user> nowhere to be found
[19:47] <b4332> Metacity: is a window manager
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> and unable to be installed
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> no, Metacity is the Application menu style
[19:48] <bekks> ubuntu_user: No.
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> its what gives that menu style
[19:48] <bekks> Metacity is a window manager.
[19:48] <grinchier> ubuntu_user: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/change-gnome-3-gnome-shell-or-classic.html
[19:48] <b4332> you're wrong is all
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> I will read that
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> ok, I keep saying I want GNOME3 with that menu style
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> how do I get GNOME3 with that menu style?
[19:49] <grinchier> read
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> read what?
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> I am lost
[19:49] <SCHAAP137> the link
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> everyone is telling me differenst fuf
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> stuff
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> I've gotten 9 links since I got here, which link?
[19:49] <SCHAAP137> all of them?
[19:49] <grinchier> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/change-gnome-3-gnome-shell-or-classic.html
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> ok
[19:49] <grinchier> ^ the one you just said you were going to read
[19:49] <grinchier> metacity is a theme
[19:50] <ubuntu_user> metacity is a window manager someone else said? what is the difference
[19:50] <ubuntu_user> between a theme and a window manager?
[19:50] <SCHAAP137> incorrect, metacity is the original window manager from GNOME 2
[19:50] <ubuntu_user> and which is metacity
[19:50] <SCHAAP137> it's not a theme
[19:50] <Metacity> 0h for corn sakes. I need to turn off highlights here.
[19:50] <Metacity> Also hi.
[19:50] <grinchier> lol
[19:50] <SCHAAP137> a theme is just a set of files to customize the looks of the window decorations, while using a window manager
[19:50] <Fyxi> what is best driver for AMD Radeon HD 8500M?
[19:51] <Fyxi> or what are best driver's?
[19:51] <grinchier> its just a theme in gnome 3 no? i could be wrong
[19:51] <SCHAAP137> you're wrong indeed grinchier
[19:51] <SCHAAP137> it's a wm
[19:51] <grinchier> in gnome 2 it was
[19:51] <Johnny_Linux> it IS a window manager
[19:51] <Johnny_Linux> .
[19:52] <b4332> Fyxi: making a second nick is a bad idea, you are really wearing out any chance of help here, bro.
[19:52] <Fyxi> his is my friend
[19:52] <Fyxi> not second nick, baka
[19:52] <ubuntu_user> OK, so if I understand what that last link is saying, I should install GNOME Ubuntu (GNOME3), and then there is a theme that will make it look like the application menu I get in Metacity, right?
[19:52] <Fyxi> how i can confirm that it's not my multiaccout?
[19:52] <grinchier> yes
[19:52] <grinchier> its already included in gnome 3 i believe
[19:52] <ubuntu_user> what theme is it I need to use?
[19:53] <ubuntu_user> does it have a name?
[19:53] <Fyxi> i was just talking to him about my performance issues with THAT gpu and he asked this here
[19:53] <Fyxi> i only repeated
[19:53] <ubuntu_user> does theme have a name?
[19:53] <Fyxi> yeah, this is my problem, but he is trying to help me b4332
[19:53] <allizom> ubuntu_user: GNOME Classic I believe
[19:53] <Fyxi> check ip...
[19:53] <ubuntu_user> and it comes by default with GNOME ubuntu 15.04?
[19:54] <grinchier> ubuntu_user: here is a video lol
[19:54] <grinchier> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUn63SvFyZk
[19:54] <ubuntu_user> thank you, I'll go watch it
[19:55] <Fyxi> b4332: sorry for naming your 'baka' (stupid) but i really hate when someone try to say that i cheat and use multiple nick's
[19:56] <Fyxi> but i understand your though's... but you didn't check ip's
[19:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> fuck
[19:56] <Johnny_Linux> hey now
[19:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need a flashdrive soo bad
[19:56] <SCHAAP137> language, Waldeinsamkeit
[19:56] <OerHeks> !language | Waldeinsamkeit
[19:57] <OerHeks> no need for that
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> ...
[19:57] <SCHAAP137> Waldeinsamkeit, bestbuy has a flash drive for $4.99: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/emtec-c600-superman-8gb-usb-2-0-flash-drive-black/8851241.p?id=1219398526242&skuId=8851241
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> is too far away
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> and they probbly have taxes
[19:57] <ubuntu_user> watched the video a few questions:
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> my bicycle is in the shop
[19:57] <OerHeks> Not an ubuntu issue, is it?
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> all i have is a unicycle
[19:57] <ubuntu_user> 1) Not sure what language the guy is speaking but, I'd sure love to find an English version of the video.
[19:57] <Johnny_Linux> sheesh
[19:57] <ubuntu_user> 2) I saw he was using Unity to do that
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> and i already rode like 10 miles on it today
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> can that work with GNOME Ubuntu?
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> so...
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> or does Unity need to be there for that to work?
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> my  brother has a 4 gb flashdrive
[19:58] <grinchier> he is using gnome,  but made it look like unity,  i agree confusing lol
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> I don't want UNITY
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> but hes holding out on me
[19:58] <grinchier> its for gnome3 dude
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> the video is showing unity
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> I know what unity looks like
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> so any advice on mounting my iso to a harddrive and booting it would be amazing
[19:58] <grinchier> yes,  i understand,
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have a extra emty harddrive in my computer...
[19:58] <SCHAAP137> sounds like the circumstances are not working with you on this one, Waldeinsamkeit
[19:59] <grinchier> ubuntu_user: he is using a unity theme lol
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes.
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> come on
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> But if I install GNOME Ubuntu 15.04, it does not have Unity
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> its gootta be possible
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> net install
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> so that video is not applicable?
[19:59] <grinchier> ubuntu_user: he went to the website gnome-look.org
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> grub boot from a harddrive
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> therers gotta be a way
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> yes, I saw that
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> but he is doing it in a Unity environment
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> I am starting with GNOME Ubuntu
[20:00] <grinchier> read the comments dude
[20:00] <ubuntu_user> where unity should be missing
[20:00] <ubuntu_user> what comments?
[20:00] <grinchier> nevermind,  good luck lol
[20:00] <ubuntu_user> I am quite confused
[20:01] <ubuntu_user> all I want is to install GNOME Ubuntu, NO UNITY, and have the Metacity look
[20:01] <grinchier> so i gave you two suggestions
[20:01] <ubuntu_user> ok
[20:01] <grinchier> one is to go to gnome-look.org and download the theme
[20:01] <SCHAAP137> ubuntu_user, then install MATE
[20:01] <ubuntu_user> MATE is GNOME3 with the Metacity look?
[20:01] <SCHAAP137> MATE gives you a classic metacity-like look by default
[20:01] <ubuntu_user> I thought someone said it was not
[20:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> can someone remote install a new os?
[20:01] <SCHAAP137> it's not GNOME3, but that's not relevant
[20:02] <Johnny_Linux> ubuntu_user , go for mate.
[20:02] <Johnny_Linux> i use it
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> i use MATE as well
[20:03] <grinchier> you can go to gnome-look.org and download w/e theme you want,  there is a whole list of metacity ones.
[20:03] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: MATE is a fork of GNOME2. http://mate-desktop.org/ You might be happy using MATE's panel and window manager with GNOME3 applications instead of the forked MATE alternatives.
[20:03] <Johnny_Linux> wouldnt use anything else
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> ubuntu_user, this is what MATE looks like: https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Screenshots/ubuntu-mate-1504-raspberry-pi-2-screenshot.png
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> it's probably what you want
[20:03] <grinchier> or be crazy and diff here  http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=101
[20:05] <Bashing-om> Waldeinsamkeit: Are you using, or have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot ?
[20:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes i have
[20:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i cannot copy my iso to the folder to boot it
[20:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> nvm
[20:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> illl try that again
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: Did you try using that "sudo mv" command given on that page?
[20:15] <Hail_Spacecake> i"m running ubuntu 14.04, for some reason the network icon in the top corner disappeared
[20:16] <Hail_Spacecake> and, I don't seem to have networkmanager installed at all
[20:16] <Hail_Spacecake> which is what I thought provided that
[20:16] <Hail_Spacecake> there's no nm-applet I can restart or anything
[20:17] <Jordan_U> Hail_Spacecake: What is the output of "nm-applet" at a terminal. Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com if the output is more than one line.
[20:17] <lickalott> guys is anyone in here good with photorec?  or know of a chan that I can ask questions in?   I just want to add file types to the search
[20:18] <Hail_Spacecake> Jordan_U: well before I explicitly installed networkmanager nm-applet didn't exist at all
[20:19] <Hail_Spacecake> now when I run it I get "Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager"
[20:19] <Hail_Spacecake> and it shuts down
[20:19] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm pretty sure I didn't uninstall networkmanager since the last time I used ubuntu
[20:19] <regedit> would anyone know anything about VirtualBox? i'd like to virtualize Ubuntu as guest on Windows host, i'm wondering if i need the -mbr option to the VBoxManage internalcommands when creating the VMDK
[20:21] <rblst> regedit: why not use the GUI?
[20:22] <egyptian[work]> whats it mean when sudo add-apt-repository ppa:maas-maintainers/stable times out with an error of pp name might be incorrect?
[20:22] <regedit> rblst: the GUI doesn't make a VMDK for the primary hard drive... or does it?
[20:24] <rblst> regedit:  you can choose your disk format when creating your machine
[20:24] <regedit> rblst: I know but i'm not sure it supports creating a VMDK of current hard drive and specific partition(s) from the GUI... le'me check
[20:24] <Jordan_U> Hail_Spacecake: run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and see what packages it proposes to install. If it doesn't want to install anything you've decided for sure you don't want, then it's probably a good idea. ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on all packages installed in Ubuntu by default.
[20:25] <SCHAAP137> regedit: i have a ubuntu VM in virtualbox under win 8.1, just followed the steps in the GUI to make it
[20:25] <SCHAAP137> no special commands needed
[20:25] <regedit> hm interesting ok
[20:25] <regedit> SCHAAP137: do you have (U)EFI enabled?
[20:25] <regedit> GPT and stuff
[20:26] <SCHAAP137> i have an UEFI BIOS yes, with secure boot disabled
[20:26] <SCHAAP137> GPT is a partitioning scheme
[20:26] <Hail_Spacecake> Jordan_U: that didn't install anything
[20:26] <SCHAAP137> like MBR, but different
[20:26] <SCHAAP137> i don't see how it's relevant to a virtual machine
[20:26] <Hail_Spacecake> Jordan_U: does the 'networking' service start networkmanager?
[20:27] <Hail_Spacecake> or is there a separate service for that?
[20:27] <regedit> SCHAAP137: was your ubuntu and windows installed in EFI mode? this can be tricky since your BIOS can have UEFI enabled but the OSs still install in non-UEFI mode
[20:27] <regedit> SCHAAP137: if you want to give the virtual machine to use a specific partition of your HDD, if they are not regular msdos MBR partitions but rather GPT...
[20:28] <SCHAAP137> ah, you want to use a physical disk
[20:28] <SCHAAP137> haven't tried that
[20:28] <regedit> yup...
[20:29] <SCHAAP137> i was already thinking, why does this matter when using a disk file, but now i see your point
[20:29] <Jordan_U> regedit: I saw that you were able to fix your boot firmware. Did you ever file a bug report? If nothing else, it's a great place to publicly post how you solved the problem.
[20:29] <SCHAAP137> i have ubuntu running just as a regular VM in vbox
[20:31] <regedit> Jordan_U: heya thanks for following up, yes i have the bug text we wrote and have more info to add to it. Out of deperation i actually just ran the Windows 7 version of the lenovo provided BIOS update, and after that surprisingly worked, i ran the Windows 8 version and that worked too
[20:32] <regedit> Jordan_U: i think the bios was badly corrupted, and the win8 version couldnt work (at first), but the win7 (legacy bios?) managed to update
[20:32] <regedit> and after sanity was restored that way, it was even able to update the more advanced win8 update
[20:32] <regedit> now i have all sorts of advanced UEFI options in bios :)
[20:36] <regedit> Jordan_U: might you know a thing about VirtualBox physical disk VMDK and the -mbr option on a UEFI system?
[20:37] <rblst> regedit: i just wonder how you reference a partition in windows if it's not a drive
[20:37] <regedit> rblst: the VBoxManage command line seems to accept a parameter for that -partitions
[20:38] <lickalott> so photorec claims to restore .avi files (or RIFF) by default but I see no selection in the menu to choose it.  Am I crazy?
[20:38] <rblst> regedit: i see, thanks
[20:38] <regedit> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#idp97335088
[20:38] <regedit> and onward
[20:38] <gartral> hey all, I'm looking into building a new desktop soon and I'm wondering what your thoughts are on new hardware, a few caveats are; 1) ABSOLUTLY must be Intel based. 2) must work perfectly with ONLY Ubuntu installed. I Don't want to have to call a tech support idiot and have them tell me "Install windows".
[20:39] <regedit> gartral: for #2, don't call tech support
[20:39] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[20:39] <regedit> :)
[20:39] <gartral> regedit: lol, you know what I mean
[20:40] <qweas> As I recall we have to update the security of our Ubuntu once in a while but since I didnt use Ubuntu for already years. Where has the option go? Anymore security updates?
[20:40] <grinchier> qweas: what verison are you using?
[20:40] <Jordan_U> gartral: https://system76.com/ http://zareason.com/shop/home.php
[20:41] <qweas> latest on Ubuntu website
[20:42] <Bashing-om> qweas: Terminal way : ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' .
[20:44] <gartral> Jordan_U: neither of those companies tell me what motherboards they use.
[20:44] <Jordan_U> gartral: If you're building your own computer, I think you're pretty much on your own as far as hardware support goes. If the hardware doesn't work, return it. I may be (and hope) I'm wrong about that though.
[20:46] <regedit> Jordan_U: ^ no ideas i guess?
[20:47] <gartral> Jordan_U: well let's get the painfully obvious out of the way, most boards with USB3.0 hub ports aren't going to work right, so that slashes out most ASRock boards... I certainly don't want to support Foxconn.. that there eliminates MSI and Intel boards.. and I kinda would like built-in wifi...
[20:48] <Jordan_U> !hcl | gartral
[20:49] <votato> Ello
[20:49] <sidi> Is there any API that allows me to find out which of *all* the Ubuntu uni+multiverse packages correspond to desktop applications (as opposed to system utilities / dev tools / CLI apps / the Unity shell itself)?
[20:51] <Bashing-om> sidi: synaptic ? ' apt show synaptic ' .
[20:51] <gartral> Jordan_U: that list lacks LGA1150 boards entirely, also a good portion of what it DOES have dosn't display the info I'm interested in..
[20:52] <ianorlin> sidi: I would use synaptic for that
[20:52] <Jordan_U> sidi: apt-file  show package | grep '\.desktop$' # Tells you if the package contains a .desktop file, which I think is a pretty reliable indicator of being a "desktop application" (GUI app with an entry in most Desktop's launchers).
[20:52] <votato> #join freenode
[20:52] <votato> well that completely failed didn't it
[20:53] <ianorlin> Jordan_U: that isn't always true as that would say htop is a desktop applicatoin and same with midnight commander but those are exceptions
[20:55] <Jordan_U> ianorlin: /usr/share/applications/mc.desktop /usr/share/applications/htop.desktop :)
[20:56] <ianorlin> Jordan_U: yes but those both are terminal apps with a desktop file
[21:04] <btravis786> Can anyone tell me what is the fendora irc chat room
[21:05] <Fuchs> btravis786: #fedora, and you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[21:06] <grinchier> your using fedora instead of ubuntu!?!?   yikes
[21:07] <Fuchs> *you're, and hardly the channel for the debate
[21:08] <OerHeks> !discuss
[21:11] <sidi> Jordan_U, thanks, you're awesome
[21:11] <sidi> Bashing-om, ianorlin thanks too, will check out synaptic
[21:11] <Jordan_U> sidi: You're welcome.
[21:12] <johnson> hello
[21:12] <Bashing-om> !13.10
[21:13] <Jordan_U> sidi: Note that apt-file show will show files from any package containing the substring you pass, so "apt-file show mc" (unfortunately IMHO) shows files from more packages than just "mc". "apt-file  show  --regexp '^mc$' | grep '\.desktop$'" shows only info about mc, but you need to be sure that your package name doesn't containin any characters that are considered special in a perl regexp.
[21:15] <sidi> Jordan_U, I could probably make advantage of that and query all the packages at once... for all i care, the desktop files should be named after the app in question, so I can find which have an exactly identical package and manually identify the remaining hundred or so... hopefully..
[21:16] <sidi> Thanks for the warning though
[21:20] <Jordan_U> sidi: What is your end goal? The contents of the app-install-data package may interest you as well.
[21:23] <sidi> Jordan_U, i have a LD_PRELOAD library which logs some system calls, it's great but on a development heavy workload it collects up to 1GB a day of data. I want to reduce it to desktop applications. I'm using this to evaluate the fitness of GUI toolkit APIs for real-world apps
[21:23] <sidi> As part of a research project on app sandboxing...
[21:26] <sirsanndy> happy fasting
[21:28] <Fahad> Halo !
[21:39] <blackflow> Any ideas what's wrong here? I've got cifs-utils installed, but no mount.cifs command. Running it suggest I install cifs-utils. Ubuntu 15.04
[21:44] <blackflow> even weirder. dpkg -L cifs-utils shows /sbin/mount.cifs but the file does not exist
[21:45] <ubuntu202> blackflow: Have you seen this wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently  outside any knowledge here however.
[21:45] <blackflow> okay, forced reinstall of cifs-utils fixed it, but now I'm dying to know what went wrong
[21:45] <mmc> i installed lamp server on my laptop
[21:46] <blackflow> ubuntu202: I've seen it, but that's irrelevant to my problem. thanks though.
[21:46] <mmc> and i create a free domain   how to bind my web server to my domain ?
[21:46] <blackflow> mmc: your domain should point at your web server's IP address. you should configure apache to "listen" for that domain (called vhost or virtualhost).
[21:50] <mmc> blackflow : i have done them
[21:51]  * penguin1263 FUCK AT&T
[21:51] <ubuntu202> blackflow: was not sure, glad to see you did yourself. ;)
[21:51] <ubuntu202> it*
[21:51] <Jordan_U> penguin1263: That is both inappropriate and offtopic for #ubuntu. Please stick to productive and respectful support discussion.
[21:56] <regedit> Jordan_U: heya, not sure you're seeing my messages - are you?
[22:03] <blackflow> and 2119
[22:03] <blackflow> oops
[22:04] <towerhii> hi
[22:05] <regedit> hello
[22:05] <towerhii> 1st timer
[22:05] <towerhii> what can we do
[22:14] <hernan> hello
[22:15] <bug22> is there someone who can help me with a driver problem ?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> regedit: Yes, I was just away (and am leaving again now).
[22:16] <regedit> Jordan_U: no prob at all :)
[22:17] <Bashing-om> !ask | bug22 and see if:
[22:18] <bug22> there seems to be some kind of issue with ubuntu 14.10-2 in regards to the nvidia driver, the dock appears on the left side but it doesn't respond to any mouse clicks
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> bug22  it's 14.04.2 or 14.10 ... which is it
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> bug22  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[22:20] <bug22> I originally had the nuveau driver but was able to change it to the latest nvidia one but like I said, no response to mouse clicks on any of the icons
[22:20] <Bashing-om> bug22: What card and what driver is loaded ? pastbin the results of terminal commands: ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ; sudo lshw -C display ' please .
[22:20] <bug22> it's a geforce 7050, on the motherboard
[22:21] <bug22> I will have to go into the other room as the computer is there, be back soon with more info
[22:22] <Bashing-om> bug22: I do desire to see the outputs of the given commands to allow me to cross reference the card to the recomended driver .
[22:37] <jenor> anybody having issues with skype not able to show video from skype calls?  caller has no issues seeing my webcam feed.   but all i see is two black screens
[22:38] <jenor> latest skype on ubuntu 14.04
[22:38] <jenor> skype 4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[22:43] <bug22> after doing what you told me to do I got - VGA compatible controller c73 geforce 7050/nforce610i version AA width 64 bit driver=nvidia latency= 0, this is regards to my driver problem
[22:43] <bug22> I had to move the whole computer system near the one I am using to webchat so have some mercy on me
[22:44] <bug22> I can see the dock on the left side but no response to any mouse clicks
[22:47] <Bashing-om> bug22: checking .
[22:47] <bug22> I am using ubuntu 14.04 32 bit
[22:51] <Bashing-om> !paste | bug22
[22:52] <Bashing-om> bug22: ^^ is this a SLI graphics set ? I do want to see that output to a pastebin please ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 | pastebinit ' you may have to install the pastbin tool .
[22:53] <bug22> hold on while I try to install that pastbin
[22:53] <Bashing-om> bug22: k .
[22:54] <bug22> I can't get into the terminal, when I try to do a control alt F2, the screen goes black
[22:55] <bug22> I was able to get into the emergency term before but now it just hangs
[22:57] <xar> How to install vim, please?
[22:57] <bug22> I did a reboot then tried to get into the emergenxy term but then the screen goes black
[22:58] <kostkon> !find vim
[22:59] <xar> How to install vim, please?
[23:00] <Bashing-om> bug22: Look'n more and more like a failure of the graphics driver. OK, let's try and boot to terminal. At the grub menu press'e' for edit mode -> boot parameters screen; arrow down to the line starting with "linux" and arrow across to "quiet splash" replace these terms with the term text. key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 .
[23:00] <bekks> xar: sudo apt-get install vim
[23:00] <bug22> bashing om, do you want me to do a reinstall as all I am getting is just a black screen, I cann't get any access to the terminal now
[23:01] <xar> bekks, it doesn't work
[23:01] <bekks> xar: Why not?
[23:01] <xar> bekks, even "vim file" doesn't work
[23:01] <Bashing-om> bug22: Nope, we fix before doing the nuclear solution. Try my last to gain the TTY1 terminal . That will use the fall back graphics driver .
[23:01] <bekks> xar: why not?
[23:02] <xar> bekks, No version of vim package is available, but it exists in the database
[23:02] <xar> data. This usually means that the package is missing, it has become obsolete
[23:02] <xar> or is only available from another source
[23:02] <xar> E: The package "vim" is not likely to be installed version
[23:02] <xar> I get this message as return
[23:03] <bekks> xar: Pastebin the entire output of "sudo apt-get install vim" please.
[23:03] <bekks> xar: Along with a pastebin of "cat /etc/issue".
[23:04] <xar> bekks, http://pastebin.com/syWiF9L3
[23:05] <bekks> xar: Did you somehow modified the pastebin?
[23:05] <OerHeks> choose your vim version http://paste.ubuntu.com/11759626/
[23:05] <xar> bekks, nope, just cpoied/pasted the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[23:06] <bekks> xar: your pastebin contains "cat / etc / issue". Thats wrong.
[23:06] <bug22> bashing om, I now have a desktop up, what do you want me to use to get into the terminal ? I used ctrl alt f2 and all I get is a black screen, if I press "e" down it doesn't seem to do anything
[23:06] <bug22> I had the e down while it was booting up
[23:06] <xar> bekks, yes, i putted in, to show you what have I ran
[23:07] <bekks> xar: it contains "cat / etc / issue". Not "cat /etc/issue".
[23:07] <Bashing-om> bug22: IF you are at the desktop, see if key combo ctl+alt+t will get a terminal interface .
[23:07] <bekks> xar: So did you modify the output in any way?
[23:07] <xar> oh
[23:08] <xar> the output of that line was http://pastebin.com/syWiF9L3
[23:08] <xar> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[23:09] <bug22> tried to get the term as per your instructions but nothing comes up
[23:09] <bekks> xar: So why did you modify it?
[23:09] <xar> haven't noticed it, sorry!
[23:09] <bekks> xar: So whats the output of "apt-cache policy vim"?
[23:10] <Bashing-om> bug22: OK, reboot, do you normally get grub's boot menu ? or do we need to invoke getting the boot menu ?
[23:10] <xar> bekks, http://pastebin.com/qswNyrqr
[23:11] <bekks> xar: so pastebin "sudo apt-get update" please.
[23:11] <bug22> when I boot, I can see the 14.04 with dots
[23:12] <bug22> I guess we need to invoke getting the boot menu
[23:12] <Bashing-om> bug22: Reboot, and as soon as your bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key -> grub boot menu ? else is this a UEFI system ?
[23:13] <bug22> ok , let me do that now
[23:14] <shome> awk or sed ?
[23:15] <bekks> Depends.
[23:15] <bug22> ok, what is happening now is when I reboot all i get is a black screen, holding down the right shift key does nothing
[23:16] <xar> bekks, still processing...
[23:18] <bug22> ok, I was somehow able to get into the terminal now, what commands do you want me to do ?
[23:18] <xar> bekks, http://pastebin.com/nkTGtUcX
[23:20] <Bashing-om> bug22: Install the tool ' sudo apt-get install pastebinit ' .
[23:20] <bug22> ok
[23:22] <zorg24> Does anyone have advice for getting data off a usb harddrive that refuses to mount (its ntfs formatted)?
[23:22] <bekks> zorg24: Take a look at dmesg to see why it refuses.
[23:22] <bug22> ok, I think I was able to get pastebinit installed
[23:22] <Bashing-om> zorg24: Properly UNmount it in a Windows machine ?
[23:23] <Bashing-om> bug22: Let's next make sure the system is up to date - for general purposes : ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' .
[23:24] <bug22> ok, let me do that
[23:25] <bug22> ok, I did that, it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[23:26] <zorg24> Bashing-om, I have no idea what I'm looking for, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11759683/
[23:28] <Bashing-om> bug22: Outstanding, now let's see what the hardware is so I can try and match a driver ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 | pastebinit ' the result will be a URL. Pass that URL back to the channel .
[23:28] <bug22> ok
[23:30] <bug22> ok, here's the url, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11759689/
[23:32] <zorg24> Bashing-om, I see the line device descriptor read/64, error -71 in red but I have no clue how to interpret that
[23:36] <YokoBR> hi guys
[23:36] <YokoBR> any chinese guy here?
[23:37] <k1l> !cn | YokoBR
[23:37] <Bashing-om> zorg24: I see no faults ? what line number are you referring to ?
[23:37] <bug22> I'm still here, bashing om
[23:37] <YokoBR> thanks
[23:38] <zorg24> Bashing-om, I see it a few places including line 1454
[23:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[23:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> i instaled linux
[23:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> i had my buddy come over
[23:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> and bring his laptop and a flashdrive
[23:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> damm that was easy
[23:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> is there a steam irc?
[23:40] <k1l> !steam
[23:44] <Bashing-om> bug22: I am at a loss here, Nvidia does not have a driver for that card . All Windows ! see: http://www.geforce.com/drivers . Input the info and see a perplexing situation. I am considering how to proceed.
[23:44] <bug22> it is not a card, it is the onboard VGA support
[23:46] <bug22> that's probably why Windows works on this machine, was really hoping to get away from Windows if I can
[23:46] <Bashing-om> zorg24: Looks like the system is not happy with that USB device, swap out the USB drive, are the errors still present ?
[23:48] <Bashing-om> bug22: K, let's see what is installed for the Nvidia graphics chips ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | pastebinit ' .
[23:51] <bug22> I got a dpkg error - unknown option -1
[23:51] <bug22> should that have been a letter "l"
[23:53] <spartan7> hey guys anyone know of a good ip camera app for ubuntu ?
[23:53] <spartan7> something that will work with a foscam?
[23:53] <bug22> ok, here's the URL - http:// paste.ubuntu.com/11759744/
[23:53] <Bashing-om> bug22: look'n at paste.ubuntu.com/11759744/ .
[23:54] <rahul_kh> hello, I have landed up into unusual problem. I have one PD only, and I wish to have ubuntu installed in it.
[23:54] <bug22> ok
[23:54] <spartan7> I tried xeom-something I saw on an article on the ubuntu forums but its a trial and its showing me the ubuntu 1 login which is gone now from what I understand
[23:54] <rahul_kh> I made 2 partition in that PD, and made one as bootable, and installed on second partition of that pd only
[23:55] <rahul_kh> but it is showing from as soon as I choose that other partition and start installed (some unmount problem)
[23:55] <rahul_kh> is there any better way ?
[23:55] <rahul_kh> please suggest. thank you
[23:55] <spartan7> I dont want to install zoneminder on my laptop just to view 1 ip camera. anyone know if a good app that works on ubuntu lts 14
[23:57] <Bashing-om> bug22: Well, looks like "we" support that grahics set even if Nvidia does not . So, let's purge what is presently and (RE-)instll .
[23:58] <bug22> let me know the commands you want me to do