[06:10] <zequence> OvenWerk1: Either we put all multimedia players into one, or separate. I suppose it makes more sense to have them all in one, in their own submenu.
[06:11] <zequence> We should add the category "player" to all of those.
[06:13] <zequence> To all the desktop files, that is
[09:00] <zequence> All and all about 400 desktop files to check, and possibly do changes in
[09:23] <zequence> kdenlive is in the graphics section, not video. Does that make sense?
[09:25] <zequence> In Debian, I believe it is in the video section
[09:53] <zequence> There are more packages that seem to be in the wrong section. We'll need to add that as something to check while going through the desktop files
[12:54] <OvenWerk1> zequence: I am thinking that if I make the menu file use the correct categories, then which ever apps have to have their desktop file listed in some place to make it work are the ones that need to be changed.
[12:55] <OvenWerk1> Simple scan is correct BTW :)
[13:13] <zequence> Right. We need to change the desktop files. But, we can't just change the desktop files to something that works for our menu. It needs to make sense. Only after that can we see how our menu can make sense of the categories, as is the idea with these freedesktop categories anyway
[13:13] <zequence> IT's a lot of work though. But, it's not only about the menu after all
[13:14] <OvenWerk1> That is what I mean. Make our menu work with the categoies as it should then if we have to do anything special for one app see about fixing those apps.
[13:15] <OvenWerk1> It is not just about the menu, but the menu tends to show when things are off.
[13:15] <OvenWerk1> It is an easy to use measuring stick
[13:15] <zequence> I agree.
[13:17] <OvenWerk1> Basically, if we have to use <filename> in the menu file, either we or the application is doing something wrong.
[13:49] <zequence> OvenWerk1: Do you have much experience with tuners?
[13:49] <zequence> Not talking about tuning your guitar
[13:49] <zequence> It seems to be categorized under AudioVideo and Audio, but not Video
[13:50] <zequence> I can understand that for a Radio tuner, but aren't there satellite ones too?
[13:51] <zequence> Though, it seems there are no video tuner applications at all, so maybe I'm misunderstanding the term
[13:51] <zequence> ..not in the repo, anyway
[14:45] <zequence> So, the Utility category, but couple with audio and video..
[14:45] <zequence> X-AudioUtility, perhaps?
[19:32] <OvenWerk1> zequence: I would just use "not audio" in accessories. So if there is utility and audio that could be the same as audioutility. Though if people are willing to add X-AudioUtility, that would be even better/easier.
[20:18] <zequence> OvenWerk1: I'm not sure that would work in standard menus though. Something that has Utility in it might end up under Accesories, even if an audio application
[20:18] <zequence> This is why I'm thinking AudioUtility would be better.
[20:19] <zequence> With AudioVideo in all Audio or Video applications, universal support is ensured.
[20:20] <zequence> I think it's only with Audio and Video that it is ok to mix two main categories
[20:20] <zequence> Well, at least like AudioVideo;Audio, or AudioVideo;Video
[20:21] <zequence> With others, I'm worried we might shoot ourselves in the foot
[20:37] <zequence> I'm adding all the suggestions to the wiki so far.
[21:02] <zequence> OvenWerk1: Seems someone assigned themselves to the bug concerning GRUB and distro name
[21:02] <zequence> bug 1242417
[21:38] <OvenWerk1> :) ya I saw that, I think Both kubuntu and well as STudio have solved that and moved on a long time ago.
[21:42] <OvenWerk1> It is not worth doing local (to ubuntu) changes that will have to be redone forever because upstream is not interested.
[21:42] <OvenWerk1> (speaking of Grub here)
[21:44] <OvenWerk1> If I get bored with all the rest of the projects I am working on, I may try working with grub upstream on this stuff.
[21:47] <OvenWerk1> All it needs is to start using another variable for "menuname".