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rmarcelinoHello everyone20:20
rmarcelinoI could use a bit of assistance please.20:21
rmarcelinoI am the IT manager for 3 school campuses.. and would like to use Ubuntu in our computer labs20:21
ahoneybunhighvoltage: around?20:21
rmarcelinoEdubuntu to be exact20:22
rmarcelinoI think they are off honey20:22
rmarcelino=)20:22
ahoneybunyea timezones20:22
rmarcelinono worries20:22
rmarcelinoI appreciate you helping me out20:23
ahoneybunof course20:23
rmarcelinoFrom what I gather Edubuntu is very similar to the Ubuntu....20:23
ahoneybunit is based on it20:23
rmarcelinoI just need help getting things so the kids cant mess with anything they are not supposed to20:23
ahoneybunyea20:24
rmarcelinoWe already have a content filter in place for web etc...20:24
ahoneybunby default they will need the password to install things anyway20:24
rmarcelinoyes and thats a good thing20:24
rmarcelinohow do you make sure they cant make any systems or prefernce changes20:25
ahoneybunyou can change the password so it is root so they can login and such but need the root password to do any changes20:25
ahoneybunI'm looking now20:25
rmarcelinoyeah I have an admin account setup and a separate student account20:25
ahoneybunhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/51073/locking-down-systems-in-a-computer-lab-school-for-orphans20:25
ahoneybunbit old but worth a shot20:26
rmarcelinonice!20:26
rmarcelinoreading it now20:26
ahoneybunACL is setting getting updates20:26
rmarcelinoI love our kids... but they seem to find ways around security20:27
ahoneybunI know the feeling lol20:28
rmarcelinois there a way to not allow running programs from a USB stick?  we are having issues with them using ultrasurf to get to pornography20:28
ahoneybunI got around the blocker once20:28
ahoneybundamn man that is hardcore20:28
ahoneybunI mean you can just run things from usb on Linux20:29
rmarcelinoyep  I am thinking a couple students have ultra surf on a key drive and using that to get to things they should not20:29
ahoneybunother then a script20:29
ahoneybunthat is a exe file20:29
ahoneybunso it will not run on Linux lol20:29
ahoneybunthere will always be proxy servers20:30
rmarcelinolol  yes I knew that!20:30
ahoneybuncan't block them all20:30
ahoneybunI once got pass the block by using the IP address of the website20:30
ahoneybunnot the DNS one20:31
rmarcelinoone of the reasons I want to move to a linux image... it prevents most of the abuses20:31
ahoneybunye20:31
rmarcelinoheh I have to explain a bit20:31
rmarcelinothis is not a typical campus20:31
ahoneybunI mean they could ssh to a server and use it as a tunnel20:31
ahoneybunbut just turn off the ssh port lol20:31
ahoneybunI can tell20:31
ahoneybunlol20:31
rmarcelinoWhen protective services takes a kids from an unsafe situation, they come to live on our campus20:32
ahoneybunoh20:32
rmarcelinoor when a kid has a choice to go to jail or come here20:32
rmarcelinowe have alot of unhappy kids here that dont want to be20:32
ahoneybunOrphans?20:32
rmarcelinosome...20:32
ahoneybunI see20:32
rmarcelinosadly20:32
ahoneybunit is20:32
rmarcelinoso they will try to contact people on the outside to coordinate escapes20:32
rmarcelinoor they go out of the way to wreck things for other people20:33
ahoneybundamn sounds like they think it is a prison20:33
rmarcelinoI am sure they feel like that20:33
ahoneybunI have no doubt it is better then what it really is out there20:33
rmarcelinothe school itself and the teachers here are great, they just have a hard job20:33
ahoneybunyea20:33
rmarcelinoso I want to make sure the kids have the tools they need to study and be successful, but I have to make sure they can't mess with the computers20:34
rmarcelinobecause they will set everything to black so you cant see the screen20:34
rmarcelinoor bright red/yellow to make it hard to look at20:34
ahoneybunyea20:34
rmarcelinostuff like that20:34
rmarcelinoif memory serves me, its possible to set linux up to prevent that kind of behavior20:35
rmarcelinoThat and most of these kids are not familiar with linux so it will be harder for them to mess it up20:35
ahoneybunlol20:36
rmarcelinoheh  you laught =)20:36
rmarcelinolaugh even20:36
ahoneybunthey learn from messing things up20:36
rmarcelinobut I have to pit my meager IT skills against 350 teenage boys desire to find porn20:36
ahoneybunyea20:37
rmarcelinoMy biggest challenge to be honest is getting the time to get things setup properly20:37
ahoneybunare you in florida?20:37
rmarcelinoArizona actually20:37
ahoneybunoh20:37
rmarcelinoWhy I am here asking for ideas and help20:38
ahoneybunhow did you end up in the Florida room then?20:38
rmarcelinono idea...20:38
ahoneybunwerid lol20:38
ahoneybun*weird20:38
rmarcelinobut it worked out well though!20:38
ahoneybunyea20:39
ahoneybunXD20:39
rmarcelinoSo really, the base install of the edubuntu should do most of what I need then??20:39
rmarcelinoexcept the memory stick issue20:39
ahoneybunI mean unless they start writing scripts20:40
rmarcelinojust setup a non-admin student account and they wont be able to install anything20:40
ahoneybunbut if the libs and bins are not installed to run the scripts they are usless20:40
rmarcelinois there a way to lock down screen and desktop settings?20:40
ahoneybunthey will not be able to without the root/admin password20:40
rmarcelinoOK20:41
ahoneybunbtw for what you want to do, always stick to the LTS20:41
rmarcelinoThanks for the help...20:41
ahoneybunlong term support20:41
ahoneybunI'm still looking around as well20:42
rmarcelinoOK20:42
rmarcelinoLTS thats the stable versions right?20:42
rmarcelinonot the nightlies20:42
ahoneybunwell everyone is marked as stable20:42
ahoneybunLTS get 5 years of support20:43
ahoneybunthe other ones get 9 months20:43
rmarcelinoahh20:43
ahoneybunwith a new version every 6 months20:43
rmarcelinoI am trying to see what I still need to learn to support this20:44
rmarcelinoso I need something relatively easy to implement for now...20:44
ahoneybunyea20:44
ahoneybunI know I saw another Ubuntu distro aimed for Students20:44
rmarcelinoI am also the person that does all the network, server, desktop support and programming also20:45
ahoneybunwow20:45
rmarcelinoso brain is pretty fried =)20:45
ahoneybunI see20:45
rmarcelinoheh20:45
rmarcelinoits all good though20:45
rmarcelinoI used to know linux and I like it alot20:45
rmarcelinothe new versions are incredibly polished compared to what I used to know20:46
ahoneybunYep20:46
rmarcelinoI remember trying to setup xwindows and having to specify how far over to draw the screen20:46
ahoneybundamn20:46
rmarcelinoah well  am reminiscing now20:46
ahoneybunlol20:48
rmarcelinogonna get back to fixing my vmware server now *sigh*20:48
rmarcelinoThanks again for the advice20:48
ahoneybunnp again20:48
rmarcelinoMay pop into the florida room sometime and say hi again!20:48
ahoneybunI'll be around to hey back lo20:49

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