=== Tm_Tr is now known as Guest80292 === Guest80292 is now known as Tm_Tr [20:20] Hello everyone [20:21] I could use a bit of assistance please. [20:21] I am the IT manager for 3 school campuses.. and would like to use Ubuntu in our computer labs [20:21] highvoltage: around? [20:22] Edubuntu to be exact [20:22] I think they are off honey [20:22] =) [20:22] yea timezones [20:22] no worries [20:23] I appreciate you helping me out [20:23] of course [20:23] From what I gather Edubuntu is very similar to the Ubuntu.... [20:23] it is based on it [20:23] I just need help getting things so the kids cant mess with anything they are not supposed to [20:24] yea [20:24] We already have a content filter in place for web etc... [20:24] by default they will need the password to install things anyway [20:24] yes and thats a good thing [20:25] how do you make sure they cant make any systems or prefernce changes [20:25] you can change the password so it is root so they can login and such but need the root password to do any changes [20:25] I'm looking now [20:25] yeah I have an admin account setup and a separate student account [20:25] http://askubuntu.com/questions/51073/locking-down-systems-in-a-computer-lab-school-for-orphans [20:26] bit old but worth a shot [20:26] nice! [20:26] reading it now [20:26] ACL is setting getting updates [20:27] I love our kids... but they seem to find ways around security [20:28] I know the feeling lol [20:28] is there a way to not allow running programs from a USB stick? we are having issues with them using ultrasurf to get to pornography [20:28] I got around the blocker once [20:28] damn man that is hardcore [20:29] I mean you can just run things from usb on Linux [20:29] yep I am thinking a couple students have ultra surf on a key drive and using that to get to things they should not [20:29] other then a script [20:29] that is a exe file [20:29] so it will not run on Linux lol [20:30] there will always be proxy servers [20:30] lol yes I knew that! [20:30] can't block them all [20:30] I once got pass the block by using the IP address of the website [20:31] not the DNS one [20:31] one of the reasons I want to move to a linux image... it prevents most of the abuses [20:31] ye [20:31] heh I have to explain a bit [20:31] this is not a typical campus [20:31] I mean they could ssh to a server and use it as a tunnel [20:31] but just turn off the ssh port lol [20:31] I can tell [20:31] lol [20:32] When protective services takes a kids from an unsafe situation, they come to live on our campus [20:32] oh [20:32] or when a kid has a choice to go to jail or come here [20:32] we have alot of unhappy kids here that dont want to be [20:32] Orphans? [20:32] some... [20:32] I see [20:32] sadly [20:32] it is [20:32] so they will try to contact people on the outside to coordinate escapes [20:33] or they go out of the way to wreck things for other people [20:33] damn sounds like they think it is a prison [20:33] I am sure they feel like that [20:33] I have no doubt it is better then what it really is out there [20:33] the school itself and the teachers here are great, they just have a hard job [20:33] yea [20:34] so I want to make sure the kids have the tools they need to study and be successful, but I have to make sure they can't mess with the computers [20:34] because they will set everything to black so you cant see the screen [20:34] or bright red/yellow to make it hard to look at [20:34] yea [20:34] stuff like that [20:35] if memory serves me, its possible to set linux up to prevent that kind of behavior [20:35] That and most of these kids are not familiar with linux so it will be harder for them to mess it up [20:36] lol [20:36] heh you laught =) [20:36] laugh even [20:36] they learn from messing things up [20:36] but I have to pit my meager IT skills against 350 teenage boys desire to find porn [20:37] yea [20:37] My biggest challenge to be honest is getting the time to get things setup properly [20:37] are you in florida? [20:37] Arizona actually [20:37] oh [20:38] Why I am here asking for ideas and help [20:38] how did you end up in the Florida room then? [20:38] no idea... [20:38] werid lol [20:38] *weird [20:38] but it worked out well though! [20:39] yea [20:39] XD [20:39] So really, the base install of the edubuntu should do most of what I need then?? [20:39] except the memory stick issue [20:40] I mean unless they start writing scripts [20:40] just setup a non-admin student account and they wont be able to install anything [20:40] but if the libs and bins are not installed to run the scripts they are usless [20:40] is there a way to lock down screen and desktop settings? [20:40] they will not be able to without the root/admin password [20:41] OK [20:41] btw for what you want to do, always stick to the LTS [20:41] Thanks for the help... [20:41] long term support [20:42] I'm still looking around as well [20:42] OK [20:42] LTS thats the stable versions right? [20:42] not the nightlies [20:42] well everyone is marked as stable [20:43] LTS get 5 years of support [20:43] the other ones get 9 months [20:43] ahh [20:43] with a new version every 6 months [20:44] I am trying to see what I still need to learn to support this [20:44] so I need something relatively easy to implement for now... [20:44] yea [20:44] I know I saw another Ubuntu distro aimed for Students [20:45] I am also the person that does all the network, server, desktop support and programming also [20:45] wow [20:45] so brain is pretty fried =) [20:45] I see [20:45] heh [20:45] its all good though [20:45] I used to know linux and I like it alot [20:46] the new versions are incredibly polished compared to what I used to know [20:46] Yep [20:46] I remember trying to setup xwindows and having to specify how far over to draw the screen [20:46] damn [20:46] ah well am reminiscing now [20:48] lol [20:48] gonna get back to fixing my vmware server now *sigh* [20:48] Thanks again for the advice [20:48] np again [20:48] May pop into the florida room sometime and say hi again! [20:49] I'll be around to hey back lo