| * valorie heard a rumor that sgclark is giving a talk | 00:02 | |
| sgclark | I will be talking about my sok project | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | what about, Scarlett? | 00:02 |
| valorie | NICE | 00:02 |
| sgclark | the KDE CI | 00:02 |
| sgclark | hopefully I will not pass out in fear | 00:03 |
| valorie | oops, it's past 5, I need to make a salad for dinner | 00:03 |
| valorie | sgclark: I'll bring rum? | 00:03 |
| valorie | passing out *in fear* is no good..... | 00:03 |
| valorie | :-) | 00:03 |
| sgclark | lol yeah booze tends to braven me up | 00:04 |
| sgclark | ugh only 150 more packages to go | 00:04 |
| ScottK | What would you possibly be afraid of? | 00:04 |
| ScottK | KDE is very friendly. | 00:04 |
| sgclark | I am very shy :) | 00:04 |
| Riddell | sgclark: have you given conference talks before? | 00:04 |
| sgclark | no | 00:05 |
| mparillo | sgclark: Useful public speaking tips: http://www.jokeemail.com/preacher/preacher15.htm | 00:05 |
| sgclark | I did pass out in speech class a couple decades ago | 00:05 |
| Riddell | sgclark: one of the great things about free software is it gives me a chance to improve my skills in areas like giving talks | 00:05 |
| valorie | ! | 00:05 |
| valorie | def. bringing rum then | 00:05 |
| Riddell | sgclark: what day is it on? | 00:05 |
| sgclark | Riddell: yeah I actually want to do this, and this is only the student section which was empty last year, good place to practice | 00:06 |
| sgclark | hmm | 00:06 |
| sgclark | good question | 00:06 |
| sgclark | Riddell: no clue, but it is on the weekend during all the big talks, but during lunch break or something | 00:08 |
| sgclark | the room was sparce last year | 00:08 |
| sgclark | which I am totally ok with! | 00:08 |
| Riddell | can't see it on the schedule, maybe it's during the week, seaLne do you know when sok talks are? | 00:10 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: do we really need libhybris as a bdep | 00:14 |
| shadeslayer | for kwin | 00:14 |
| Riddell | umm dunno what does git blame say? | 00:16 |
| Riddell | I assume I added it for a reason | 00:16 |
| shadeslayer | Build-dep on libhybris and add kwin-hwcomposer-backend package | 00:16 |
| shadeslayer | you added it mate :) | 00:16 |
| Riddell | yes now I remember, it's for the hybris and hwcompositor backend | 00:17 |
| Riddell | what's the problem? | 00:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Debian doesn't have libhybris | 00:17 |
| shadeslayer | and I doubt it will | 00:17 |
| Riddell | sucks to be debian | 00:17 |
| Riddell | remove it in debian branch then | 00:17 |
| shadeslayer | Probably because it's not dfsg compatible or whatever | 00:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: which is the same as the Kubuntu branch :P | 00:18 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: which is why I asked, is kwin-hwcomposer being used anywhere | 00:18 |
| shadeslayer | or did you add it just because cmake was complaining | 00:18 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: hmm, moment | 00:19 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Why do you doubt that Debian will have it? | 00:24 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes it's being used | 00:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: right, ok | 00:25 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: I thought it wasn't dfsg compliant or something | 00:25 |
| Riddell | I would expect hybris is dfsg free, I've not checked but I believe android is free software they just don't develop it openly and only do a code dump occationally | 00:25 |
| ScottK | A quick read through debian/copyright says it's free. | 00:26 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: but master should be different from kubuntu_archive_foo as far as branches go | 00:26 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: DCI uses kubuntu_unstable | 00:26 |
| ScottK | It's also in Ubuntu Main, so modulo a screw up, is should be OK for Debian main too. | 00:26 |
| shadeslayer | since that's what we use to iterate | 00:26 |
| shadeslayer | mmm, depends on the android-headers package | 00:27 |
| shadeslayer | not in debian too ofcourse | 00:27 |
| shadeslayer | hurray | 00:27 |
| ScottK | That means it might be complicated to get there, but I don't see any fundamental barrier. | 00:27 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 00:27 |
| shadeslayer | <- talking out of his ass clearly | 00:30 |
| * valorie turns on the fan | 00:34 | |
| [Relic] | shadeslayer, practicing for a future in politics? | 01:05 |
| shadeslayer | [Relic]: ?? | 01:05 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 01:06 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 01:06 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: https://www.hipchat.com/downloads#linux-install | 01:07 |
| sgclark | ok my packaging is thwarted by a bug, time for me to call it, have a good night everyone. | 01:10 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: night | 01:19 |
| === Guest306 is now known as thelionroars | ||
| seaLne | Riddell sgclark: gsoc/sok is saturday after lunch, 1500 | 02:20 |
| seaLne | sgclark: speak to nightrose about it if she hasn't approached you | 02:20 |
| === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward | ||
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: so that's IRC? | 06:14 |
| tsdgeos | shadeslayer: Riddell: ping | 06:57 |
| shadeslayer | whats up | 06:57 |
| * shadeslayer is tired | 06:58 | |
| shadeslayer | tsdgeos: ?? | 06:59 |
| tsdgeos | shadeslayer: writing :D | 06:59 |
| shadeslayer | oh xD | 06:59 |
| shadeslayer | So not a quick thing to do xD | 06:59 |
| tsdgeos | shadeslayer: what's kubuntu's policy for backporting bugfixes to vivid packages given that there's ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports with the new versions of stuff, do you actually backport something at all? | 07:01 |
| shadeslayer | tsdgeos: bug fixes for official vivid archives have to go through SRU procedures, however, we have MRE's for certain things | 07:01 |
| shadeslayer | ( MRE = Minor Release Exception ) | 07:02 |
| shadeslayer | ( Which means we can upload whole sets of KDE SC packages and stuff as long as they're bug fix only ) | 07:02 |
| tsdgeos | i see | 07:02 |
| tsdgeos | i was saying because having http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=gwenview.git&a=commitdiff&h=94d4453ee8fdefb182e4730b0417e42ed56c3fb2&hp=4dc18b994558cbc88d8f1a701247ece3868682a8 for gwenview would be really a win | 07:02 |
| tsdgeos | shadeslayer: on non-kde related stuff, i have a one liner patch for the "fbi" package to make it not segfault, what's the correct way to get it to a release? | 07:03 |
| shadeslayer | !sru | 07:03 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 07:03 |
| shadeslayer | tsdgeos: T | 07:03 |
| shadeslayer | tsdgeos: ^ :P | 07:03 |
| tsdgeos | so i guess i just ask a debian folk and it'll hit ubuntu in a few years :D | 07:04 |
| shadeslayer | sure :P | 07:04 |
| shadeslayer | that's one way | 07:04 |
| shadeslayer | tsdgeos: could you file a bug with the impact , and testing mechanism and the patch url on LP | 07:05 |
| shadeslayer | and toss it in here | 07:05 |
| tsdgeos | bug has been filed for like 3 years i think | 07:05 |
| tsdgeos | the patch isn't there | 07:06 |
| tsdgeos | but i guess noone cares about the package :D | 07:06 |
| tsdgeos | since "doesn't work at all" is quite a serious bug | 07:06 |
| shadeslayer | toss the link in here plz | 07:06 |
| tsdgeos | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fbi/+bug/1450949 | 07:06 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1450949 in geeqie (Ubuntu) "Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 62" [Medium,Confirmed] | 07:06 |
| tsdgeos | it's hilarious is categorized as medium :D | 07:07 |
| shadeslayer | Bug #1450949 reported by Heineken on 2015-05-02 | 07:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1450949 in geeqie (Ubuntu) "Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 62" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450949 | 07:08 |
| shadeslayer | not 3 years? | 07:08 |
| shadeslayer | idk | 07:08 |
| shadeslayer | unless it's 2018 | 07:08 |
| shadeslayer | in which case, what the heck happened | 07:09 |
| tsdgeos | it is man! what rock have you been sleeping under! | 07:09 |
| tsdgeos | :D | 07:09 |
| shadeslayer | idk man, I just went for a walk | 07:09 |
| shadeslayer | and it's 2018 | 07:09 |
| shadeslayer | time moves slowly in America | 07:09 |
| shadeslayer | it is after all UTC -8 | 07:09 |
| tsdgeos | otoh i was checking this yesterday and i'm severely jet lagged | 07:10 |
| tsdgeos | so i'll accept the 3 years may have been my tired brain | 07:11 |
| shadeslayer | tsdgeos: not sure what to say about fbi, I'd poke someone on #ubuntu-devel perhaps | 07:11 |
| shadeslayer | maybe someone has expertise with the package | 07:11 |
| shadeslayer | if not, then poke me with the patcheroo on Friday :P | 07:12 |
| shadeslayer | wait no don't | 07:12 |
| shadeslayer | it's in main | 07:12 |
| shadeslayer | I don't have permissions for main | 07:12 |
| shadeslayer | not elite enough | 07:12 |
| tsdgeos | :/ | 07:15 |
| tsdgeos | ok, thanks | 07:15 |
| shadeslayer | yw | 07:15 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:22 |
| soee | hiho lordievader | 08:29 |
| sick_rimmit | hello friends | 08:36 |
| sick_rimmit | Good morning to you | 08:36 |
| lordievader | Hey soee | 08:37 |
| soee | hiho sick_rimmit | 08:46 |
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| sick_rimmit | soee: Hi there | 08:53 |
| === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward | ||
| sick_rimmit | Totally off topic, just looking for suggestions you folks may have come across | 09:14 |
| sick_rimmit | I am looking for a Documentation system ( Like phpDocumentor ) that can generate APi documentation, and can be automated with Jenkins.. | 09:15 |
| sick_rimmit | Anyone know of anything like that, that I should take a look at ? | 09:16 |
| soee | sick_rimmit: check http://fabien.potencier.org/sami-yet-another-php-api-documentation-generator.html | 09:25 |
| soee | https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/Sami | 09:25 |
| Riddell | sick_rimmit: for what langauge? | 09:27 |
| soee | also: http://www.apigen.org/ | 09:27 |
| sick_rimmit | Bless you soee Thanks | 09:28 |
| soee | Wily alpha1 this thursday ? | 09:30 |
| lordievader | Already? | 09:32 |
| soee | looks like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule | 09:40 |
| lordievader | Cool :) | 09:41 |
| Riddell | testing welcomed | 09:42 |
| soee | testing all the time @home on my laptop | 09:43 |
| soee | since 2-3 weeks there is a problem with ksysguard upgrade :) | 09:43 |
| soee | it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop | 09:43 |
| soee | -.- | 09:43 |
| === mck182|afk is now known as mck182 | ||
| soee | but i it feels liek whoel system works a bit faster and smoother compared to vivid | 09:46 |
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| === Tm_Tr is now known as Guest80292 | ||
| === Guest80292 is now known as Tm_Tr | ||
| mparillo_ | For wily, a bug to confirm (please): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349151 | 10:10 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 349151 in general "Spell-Check No longer working" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:10 |
| mparillo_ | And the upgrade to Wily stalls for me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1464330 | 10:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1464330 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Release Upgrade Stalls on Kubuntu Upgrade to Wily" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:11 |
| === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward | ||
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 10:31 |
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward | ||
| Riddell | waa kstars last one left to let kf5 in | 14:45 |
| santa_ | Riddell: in case you forgot about them I have a couple of simple things awaiting to be merged from siduction | 15:22 |
| santa_ | (plasma-workspace + khelpcenter) | 15:24 |
| santa_ | the former fixes a launchpad bug | 15:24 |
| Riddell | ok give me a sec | 15:25 |
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| Riddell | santa_: khelpcenter applied and uploaded, bluedevil was already applied but I'm not uploading cos ubuntu is stuck on bluez4 | 15:58 |
| === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward | ||
| Riddell | santa_: sorry I'm not in the most responsive mood | 16:04 |
| santa_ | no prob | 16:07 |
| santa_ | the other one was plasma-workspace, not bluedevil | 16:08 |
| santa_ | thank you very much for merging btw :) | 16:09 |
| clivejo | anyone having issues with powerdevil in wily? | 18:05 |
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| sgclark | I have heard complaints. I am not on wily so I can't research. | 18:12 |
| clivejo | how could I research? | 18:13 |
| clivejo | Energy Saving part of the System Settings is greyed out. Saying that the Power Management Service is not running | 18:14 |
| clivejo | when I start it in Background services, it says unable to start server powerdevil | 18:15 |
| clivejo | nothing in pm-powersave.log | 18:17 |
| sgclark | clivejo: sounds like this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/powerdevil/+bug/1464924 add what you can and add yourself as affected. | 18:20 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1464924 in powerdevil (Ubuntu) "kubuntu: after dist-upgrade powerdevil unable to launch" [Undecided,New] | 18:20 |
| clivejo | when I debuild and there are files in debian/tmp does this mean these file havent been put into a package correctly? | 18:41 |
| sgclark | no, that is where it goes first and then copied at install time | 18:41 |
| clivejo | so icons and HTML etc go into -common ? | 18:46 |
| clivejo | executables and libs go into the main package to be built on each arch? | 18:46 |
| clivejo | how on earth did it build two days ago and not it wont! | 18:48 |
| sgclark | -data for stuff that is sharable like icons and stuff I think, libs is in package matching lib name and executables -bin. I think , verify with Riddell of course. | 18:50 |
| sgclark | changes? | 18:50 |
| clivejo | the original is skrooge and skrooge-common | 18:51 |
| sgclark | okies, I have not worked with -common, someone else will need to step in here. | 18:51 |
| clivejo | Im trying to package skrooge2.0.0 | 18:51 |
| sgclark | cool :) | 18:51 |
| clivejo | not cool! | 18:52 |
| Riddell | -common is just another name for -data | 18:52 |
| sgclark | not cool ? | 18:52 |
| clivejo | cant get my head around it | 18:52 |
| sgclark | there ya go | 18:52 |
| clivejo | what is the standard? | 18:52 |
| Riddell | skrooge has no -bin that's only used for library packages usually | 18:52 |
| sgclark | I use -data .. | 18:52 |
| Riddell | clivejo: the standard is to follow whatever Debian do | 18:53 |
| sgclark | or that | 18:53 |
| clivejo | and that is? | 18:53 |
| Riddell | else it all becomes far to hard to maintain | 18:53 |
| Riddell | in the case of skrooge it's as you say, skrooge-common for /usr/share files and skrooge for everything else | 18:53 |
| clivejo | what about arch dependant files? | 18:54 |
| sgclark | so yeah existing packages I leave as they already are. Anyway, stepping out, do what Riddell says! | 18:55 |
| Riddell | clivejo: into "skrooge" | 18:55 |
| santa_ | arch any -> skrooge; arch all -> skrooge-common | 18:55 |
| clivejo | I mean in the .install file | 18:55 |
| santa_ | yes | 18:56 |
| clivejo | surely that depends on arch? | 18:56 |
| clivejo | /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/grantlee ? | 18:56 |
| santa_ | skrooge | 18:56 |
| Riddell | replace the x86_64-linux-gnu with a * in the .install file | 18:56 |
| Riddell | then it'll work on other arches too | 18:56 |
| santa_ | yeah | 18:56 |
| clivejo | so /usr/lib/*/plugins/grantlee | 18:56 |
| Riddell | yep | 18:57 |
| clivejo | ah, that makes sense | 18:57 |
| clivejo | boy you are clever! | 18:57 |
| Riddell | ach packaging is easy, the programming is harder | 18:58 |
| sgclark | well it gets easy. It does not start out that way.. | 19:00 |
| clivejo | strange filename - libskgbasemodeler.so.2.0.0 | 19:01 |
| clivejo | is that right? | 19:02 |
| Riddell | yep | 19:03 |
| sgclark | if that is what upstrream named it then yes | 19:03 |
| clivejo | how do I copy it all like -r | 19:04 |
| clivejo | usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48 | 19:04 |
| Riddell | library for skrooge base model, so version 2.0.0 I guess | 19:04 |
| Riddell | if you put a directory in the .install file that'll copy everything | 19:04 |
| clivejo | ie 16x16, 64x64 | 19:04 |
| clivejo | so just usr/share/icons/hicolor | 19:04 |
| Riddell | usually for libraries you want to put usr/lib/libskgbasemodeler.so.2* which will get the file and symlink but not get the developer link | 19:04 |
| sgclark | usr/share/* | 19:04 |
| Riddell | some packages like to list every single file which is a pain when doing a new version but means mistakes don't creap in | 19:05 |
| Riddell | some just do usr/share and be done with it | 19:05 |
| Riddell | as usual, best to copy what the existing packaging does | 19:05 |
| clivejo | does usr/share not contain binaries? | 19:06 |
| clivejo | whats usr/share/kxmlgui5/skrooge_report/skrooge_report.rc ? | 19:08 |
| clivejo | just a data file? | 19:08 |
| clivejo | or usr/share/knotifications5/skrooge.notifyrc | 19:08 |
| Riddell | have a look | 19:10 |
| Riddell | they'll be text files | 19:10 |
| clivejo | XML? | 19:10 |
| Riddell | .ini format probably | 19:10 |
| Riddell | usr/share only has data files by various long standing standards | 19:10 |
| clivejo | so usr/share/* will catch all the data files and bung them into *-common | 19:11 |
| Riddell | clivejo: doesn't even need that asterisk | 19:31 |
| clivejo | pbuilder is complaining about http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kwallet-kf5/libkf5wallet-dev_5.10.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb not existing | 19:33 |
| clivejo | does apt-get update not get called automatically? | 19:35 |
| clivejo | I guess not! | 19:38 |
| Riddell | clivejo: nope you need to run that manually | 19:48 |
| clivejo | found that out myself :P | 19:48 |
| clivejo | its building :)# | 19:49 |
| clivejo | very slowly | 19:51 |
| clivejo | does pbuild have a multi-thread option? | 19:51 |
| Riddell | annoyingly faffy | 19:52 |
| Riddell | pbuilder-dist wily build --debbuildopts "-J4" foo.dsc | 19:52 |
| Riddell | I think | 19:52 |
| Riddell | where 4 is the number of cpus | 19:52 |
| clivejo | does anyone use skrooge? | 19:54 |
| ahoneybun | I tried | 19:56 |
| clivejo | tried? | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | I can't figure about how to import my accounts | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | bank wise | 19:56 |
| clivejo | oh | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | I still have it installed though | 19:57 |
| Riddell | nope but I use calligra which needs an update if you want another challenge after this :) | 19:57 |
| clivejo | uploading to PPA now | 19:58 |
| * ahoneybun trys out Calligra | 19:58 | |
| clivejo | so fingers crossed it builds on LP | 19:58 |
| ahoneybun | *tries | 19:59 |
| clivejo | Calligra 2.9.5? | 20:00 |
| clivejo | is it ported to KF5? | 20:00 |
| clivejo | oh, skrooge is delayed for 59mins, is that normal? | 20:01 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: calligra words says it uses odt by default but then it tried to save in Palm OS database lol | 20:08 |
| Riddell | clivejo: it can be, launchpad gets busy sometimes | 20:09 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: there's no opendocument standard for databases | 20:09 |
| Riddell | clivejo: yes 2.9.5, no they're still working on kf5 so it's just some new files I guess | 20:09 |
| Riddell | clivejo: but beware, it's a beast, it takes ages to compile | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | idk then | 20:09 |
| clivejo | I must have been bumped up, 9mins into the compile | 20:20 |
| clivejo | 47% | 20:21 |
| clivejo | how long does it take after a build for *.deb files to be published? | 20:30 |
| sgclark | it is not a fixed time, dependsd on load, much like build | 20:31 |
| clivejo | eak 187M | 20:35 |
| clivejo | this is a beast | 20:35 |
| soee | i see some updates on Wily, mix of Kf 5.10 and 5.11 ? | 20:39 |
| soee | ksysguard still broken | 20:39 |
| Riddell | soee: I upgraded kf 5.10 but some bits of 5.11 to fix compiles | 20:42 |
| Riddell | uploaded | 20:42 |
| soee | ah cool :) | 20:42 |
| soee | but i assume it wont solve ksysguard conflicts ? | 20:43 |
| clivejo | Riddell: Calligra is complaining about FindKDE4.cmake, any ideas? | 21:32 |
| clivejo | I have kdelibs5-dev | 21:33 |
| clivejo | and cmake-data | 21:33 |
| sgclark | clivejo: I think that is kde-workspace | 21:39 |
| clivejo | Im currently installing qt4-dev-tools see if that helps | 21:40 |
| clivejo | Ill try that next | 21:40 |
| Riddell | clivejo: install qt4-default | 21:41 |
| Riddell | that will change some qt tools from qt5 to qt4 | 21:41 |
| clivejo | should I just hold off til calligra is ported to 5? | 21:43 |
| Riddell | clivejo: goodness no, that'll be another 6 months or year | 21:44 |
| clivejo | LOL | 21:44 |
| Riddell | they put in a lot of work to make this bugfix release, least we can do is package it | 21:45 |
| clivejo | well that seems to have fixed it | 21:45 |
| clivejo | its building | 21:45 |
| clivejo | Ill have to open a window | 21:46 |
| clivejo | getting hot in here | 21:46 |
| clivejo | how long will this take to compile/build? | 21:46 |
| clivejo | oh and if Im trying to figure out where missing files go, can I run debuild without compling it all again | 21:47 |
| clivejo | skrooge isnt working :/ missing plugins / libraries | 21:51 |
| clivejo | oh digiKam 4.11 was released on Sunday | 21:59 |
| Riddell | clivejo: plenty for you to practice on :) | 22:15 |
| Riddell | clivejo: debuild -nc is the magic to redo it without compiling it all again | 22:15 |
| Riddell | "no clean" | 22:15 |
| Riddell | clivejo: but for testing the installed files dh_install --list-missing is the one command to run | 22:16 |
| Riddell | clivejo: calligra has so many .debs made out of it that working out which .install should get which file is seriously difficult | 22:16 |
| Riddell | you often need to resort to grepping cmakelists.txt files to work out where it came from | 22:16 |
| clivejo | do you think there is many file changes | 22:17 |
| clivejo | considering its a bug fix release? | 22:17 |
| sgclark | probably not | 22:21 |
| clivejo | do the programmers suggest the packages ? | 22:22 |
| Riddell | calligra always has more file changes than I expect | 22:23 |
| Riddell | clivejo: how do you mean? | 22:23 |
| Riddell | there's a README file in calligra which gives direction to packagers | 22:23 |
| clivejo | I must read it! | 22:26 |
| ahoneybun | what the | 22:59 |
| ahoneybun | you can't change the kwallet password? | 22:59 |
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