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Roeyhello00:57
Roeywhy did my Firefox settings all reset when I restarted it?00:58
Roeythen I go ask about it in #mozilla and they kick me out00:58
Roeyhi01:19
Roeyok f that, I have no idea why Firefox messes up on itself.  It auto-messes-up.01:20
RoeyAnother question though.. I can't see the partiitions on my backup hard drive (either of them).01:20
Roeyrunning cfdisk /dev/sdb gives me a menu for "Select Label Type"01:20
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MacCheeseDoes kubuntu spy on what you do on your computer?01:45
ussher_Is it normal for Xorg to keep changing the process number every second or so?  ps -ef | grep Xorg  gives me 2693 on first run, then 2693 right after then 2697, 2699.......01:47
ussher_Was trying to follow these instructions: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/100-cpu-usage-from-xorg-process-how-to-to-troubleshoot-4175512292/  and use pstack to see whats up with my high Xorg cpu count, but cant get a static ps number01:48
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donix.03:40
donixDoes anyone have a guide for Kubuntu to Arch?03:40
donixI'm wanting to switch to arch but still use the KDE interface03:40
WhitePelicanI would like to install kde but not the kubuntu desktop. I used to install kde-full but it's gone now03:43
WhitePelicancan someone help?03:43
strayPuppyWhitePelican: funny because I see it.03:47
WhitePelicanI meant in 15.0403:55
ion__Hello kubuntu is for old pc?04:08
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Guest8986Hello04:10
Igor_It's better to use Xubuntu on old pc04:10
Guest8986understand04:10
Guest8986Lubuntu is not good for old pc?04:12
Igor_It's good too04:12
Guest8986understand04:12
Guest8986how learn linux a newbie?04:13
donixI've looked at xubuntu but it seems like it's not as configurable as Arch or kubuntu04:13
donixI would like to use it though if it has the same or near same amount of custimization04:14
donixmostly in terms of appearance04:14
Guest8986:D04:15
Guest8986understand04:15
Guest8986But for od pc good is xubuntu,kubuntu.04:16
Guest8986And how is the best distribution for begginer?04:16
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donixold pc Lubuntu is best, but Xubuntu doesnt use much more resource  so if you like it more, it would be ok04:57
TaZeRcan someone please explain to me how it is acceptable to leave the full disk encryption manual function of the installer broken release after release?05:02
TaZeRwhy is this not being fixed? why am i unable to use full disk encryption while manual partioning in the kubuntu installer05:02
TaZeRkind of ridiculous to have to install another flavor of ubuntu and then the kubuntu meta package just to have a kubuntu system with luks-dm05:04
juacom99hi, one quick question. I encounter an issue many times and i was wondering why it may hapend.I'm in a fresh install of kubuntu 15.04 but happend to me also when i upgrade from 14.09.The problem is that the file ~/.cache/ksyscoca5 set it owner to root somehow  making plasma 5 crash (kinit5 procces to be precise). anyone knows why this keep hapening?05:07
Igor_What is normal temperature for hp laptop?05:20
juacom99LIST05:20
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lordievaderGood morning.08:22
sick_rimmitlordievader: Good morning08:36
lordievaderHey sick_rimmit08:37
* sick_rimmit waves08:41
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frenda_Hi, Where is networking settings?! When I click on the network applet, there's not any botton for settings there! I want to add a vpn entry09:41
lordievaderfrenda_: Is the little wrench still there? If so, you need to click that.09:42
frenda_little wrench? do you mean that hamburger icon?!09:43
lordievaderErr, I do not have plasma5 infront of me so I don't really know.09:44
howlymowlyhi everyone.. short question:  I have a litle problem with some applications which recognize mousecliks only with a little offset..  I don't really have an idea what GUI framework is casuing this.  but when I set up a fresh KDE desktop the problem is done.. appliations that are affected are for example:   git gui, and the plot window from matplotlib09:47
howlymowlyafter googling a little bit it seems that the affected framework is mainly Tcl/Tk09:49
howlymowlyany idea what to do about this ;)?09:50
frenda_http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/71690 --> where is network settings? (on KdePlasma5)09:52
lordievaderfrenda_: Look at the paste of mck182 in #plasma.09:53
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frenda1. http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/71693 --> 2. http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/71691 --> is this settings correct for a TCP connection over OpenVPN?10:21
lordievaderI suppose.10:23
lordievaderfrenda: Try and see if it works.10:23
frendaNope!10:23
frenda It's the reason i'm here!10:24
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lordievaderfrenda: Does it give errors?10:26
frendaNo! it didn't try to be connected when I press the button under network applet10:27
frendaWhen I open network manger setting, something called kdewallet prompt for password! what is it?10:30
lordievaderfrenda: What does the networkmanager log say?10:30
lordievaderAh, it wants a password. Wich it thinks is stored in kwallet.10:30
BluesKajHey folks10:31
frendalordievader: what do you mean for 'it think'? who thinks?10:32
lordievaderfrenda: Networkmanager.10:33
frendaah, ok; So waht's the password? my account password does not work10:33
lordievaderfrenda: The one you set up at the first launch of kwallet.10:34
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frendaOops, I didn't setuo anything till now for it!10:36
frendasetup*10:36
frendahttp://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/7169510:36
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JohnDoe1972hey guys12:05
lordievadero/12:05
JohnDoe1972can someone help me format a partition on a multiboot drive which is using grub2 ?12:06
JohnDoe1972i want to replace win xp with win 712:06
JohnDoe1972but keep my distro intact12:06
lordievaderJohnDoe1972: Tell Windows7 to isntall to the XP partition (letting it format that one). Then after the install repair grub.12:07
JohnDoe1972lordievader, o/12:07
JohnDoe1972\o12:07
lordievaderJohnDoe1972: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:07
JohnDoe1972thx man12:07
JohnDoe1972n112:07
Neo9mongodb-server1 port 1111  portforward to mongodb-server2 on port 2222.  how to do it in ubuntu?13:14
lordievaderNeo9: Iptables?13:15
Neo9lordievader:iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d <mongodb-server1-ip> --dport 1111 -j DNAT --to-destination <mongodb-server2-ip>:222213:16
lordievaderNeo9: For example.13:16
Neo9lordievader: is any thing wrong in the rule.13:16
lordievaderLooks alright.13:16
Neo9lordievader: it's not working for me.13:17
lordievaderIs your kernel allowing the forwarding of packets, as well as the firewall?13:17
Neo9lordievader:how can i know that? is there any way ?13:18
lordievaderNeo9: http://serverfault.com/questions/140622/how-can-i-port-forward-with-iptables/140626#14062613:19
Neo9lordievader: modified         echo '1' | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/ppp0/forwarding       still it's not working.13:30
Guest92254hi, if i run a plasmoid on the plasma desktop will it keep running on the default desktop?13:30
lordievaderNeo9: Do all interfaces have that permission? And do you have a forward rule set up?13:31
Neo9lordievader: all interfaces have same permission.13:31
Neo9lordievader: forward rules        iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 1111 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.3.50:222213:34
Neo9                                                 iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 1111 -j ACCEPT13:34
lordievaderThe source and destination are not on the same subnet, right?13:35
Neo9lordievader: both are in same private n/w. same subnet.13:37
lordievaderYeah, that is not going to work. Portforwarding is a NAT thing.13:38
lordievaderHmm perhaps I spoke too soon: http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/04/15/how-to-redirect-traffic-to-another-machine-in-linux/13:41
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Neo9lordievader: server1(public-ip) portforward to server2(private-ip) which is accessible to server1.   this case ?13:45
lordievaderThat would be NATting, however a 192.168.1.x to another 192.168.1.x address would be routing.13:46
Guest92254will plasmoids keep working outside of the plasma desktop when i run it?13:47
Neo9lordievader: thanks. will see the both concepts clearly.13:50
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Neo9lordievader:thanks.13:50
lordievaderNeo9: Sure, no problem.13:51
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Canonhello anyone admin cisco with linux13:58
BluesKajCanon, best to ask in ##linux chat13:59
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ShapeShifter499hi15:42
ShapeShifter499would you guys support kde on arm here?15:42
ShapeShifter499I've been trying to get audio working inside a chroot on my android phone and I came across a post online mentioning that kde might help. But kde causes hard reboots on my device and I'm not sure why15:43
ShapeShifter499The thing is I can safely run two XFCE4 based Chroots at the same time using swap (one debian and the other arch linux) but it seems KDE is crashing on me resulting in a hard reboot15:43
lordievaderErr if Ubuntu supports arm... I guess.15:45
ShapeShifter499I submitted the same question to #ubuntu-arm, no replies yet15:46
ShapeShifter499lordievader: :/15:49
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lordievaderI don't think Ubuntu on ARM is very popular.16:06
TaZeRhey is kubuntu fixing its installer16:10
TaZeRso i can finnaly install just kubuntu without going through another flavor to first to get manual partioning with luks-crypt working16:11
ShapeShifter499it appears that kde is trying to use sound and android doesn't like it so it hard reboot crashes16:12
ShapeShifter499fff16:12
JohnDoe1972lordievader, you know if i can access the usb drive from within linux if im booting from that usb ?17:29
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mparillo_Booting from a live session as in from the ISO, or using a USB drive as a normal, installed user?17:39
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lordievaderJohnDoe1972: It should already be mounted, might even be rw mounted.17:48
austin6598is there any way to find the dependencies of a .deb file?17:51
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mparilloDoes this help? http://xmodulo.com/how-to-check-package-dependencies-on-ubuntu-or-debian.html18:02
austin6598actually just running dpkg through terminal tells me what the dependency is18:05
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omzighow do i get my password in ubuntu18:10
lordievaderaustin6598: Or you unpack it and check the debian/control file.18:11
lordievaderomzig: What do you mean?18:11
austin6598 <lordievader i got it to work but im not sure how to do exactly what you said18:11
lordievaderaustin6598: ar to extract the deb, tar to extract the control tarball.18:12
omzigi'm using a mac lordievader and have ubuntu in VM but lost password to use it18:13
lordievaderBoot it up in single mode.18:15
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rosco_yWhen I'm booting my system it complains that the runtime jounal is 8.0 MB, and only 7.9 MB is allowed.  What is the Runtime Journal?19:19
lordievaderSounds like systemd's logger.19:19
rosco_ylordievader ty--I'm kind of wondering if I have to run some kind of fixdisk routine....19:20
rosco_yI'll probably end up reformatting, reinstalling.....19:23
rosco_ybut oh well...19:23
lordievaderOr would it be filesystem related.19:23
* lordievader is starting to doubt19:23
rosco_yyeah, I think it's something to do with the filesystem19:23
rosco_yI was running a program that crashed, and I needed to do a hard reboot...and that's when the trouble started...19:24
lordievaderrosco_y: What is the output of 'dumpe2fs -h /dev/<filesystem with warning>19:24
lordievader'19:24
rosco_ylordievader: I don't actually know what filesystem it is....I'm way back in newbie land19:25
rosco_yhow can I tell which device I'm booted on?19:26
rosco_yI'm booted to the device now...19:26
rosco_yok, I'm having a glimmer of an idea.  mount devices until I've mounted the location where I am?19:27
rosco_ylordievader: I thought I was booted to sdb1, so I ruan dumpe2fs -h /dev/sdb1, which failed with "permission denied, Couldn't find valid fs superblock."19:30
rosco_yI'm thinking of just scrapping it and moving on19:30
rosco_yI have my work backed up19:30
rosco_yprobably fastest to reinstall 0S at this point, when the amount of time I'd spend figuring this out is factored in19:31
rosco_yoh well.  Thanks lordievader, I appreciate it...19:32
andrewmurphygreetings19:34
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eXistenZeHey guys20:23
eXistenZeHow do I set up an auto update routine to apt-get?20:23
eXistenZeI can set a script with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade but then it will ask for a password and a confirmation for every update20:24
lordievadereXistenZe: My /etc/crontab takes care of that (on the servers that is).20:34
lordievaderI get nice emails about the results.20:34
Tux_hello?20:40
Tux_sorry it's my first time round here i have no idea how frequently this IRC is used20:41
Tux_does anybody already have the 15.04?20:41
lordievaderHey Tux_.20:42
Tux_hi lordievader20:42
lordievaderTux_: My Kubuntu box is on 15.10 ;)20:42
Tux_oh20:42
Tux_and i though i would be up to date20:42
Tux_anyways20:42
lordievaderTux_: Most people are on 14.04 or 15.04 though ;)20:42
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lordievaderNah, I am running a development release.20:43
Tux_what do you think about 15?20:43
lordievaderNew and shiney, eh ;)20:43
Tux_i guessed smth like this20:43
Tux_well20:43
Tux_yeah it is20:43
Tux_but i kinda dont understand why they (or you :)) have taken so many features20:43
Tux_or hidden20:44
Tux_:D20:44
Tux_just to save space?20:44
lordievaderMost of the functionallity should still be there. In one form or another. Not everything is ported to KF5 but those things that are not ported should be available in their KF4 version.20:45
lordievaderWhat are you missing?20:45
Tux_for example i don't know how to set my clock on 12 h basis20:45
Tux_anymore20:46
Tux_and sure that doesnt really matter on itself20:47
Tux_but things add up20:47
lordievaderHmm, I suppose that should be configurable. I do not have plasma5 in front of me so I cannot check.20:47
lordievaderIf it really is missing and no one in  here can help you with it you should file a bug.20:48
Tux_you think that's worth mentioned?20:48
lordievaderI think it is still somewhere there. If not, it is a regression bug if you ask me.20:49
Tux_where should i look ?20:50
Tux_(apart from 'Digital Clock Settings' where i cannot find it)20:50
eXistenZeregional settings?20:51
eXistenZecountry?20:51
lordievaderTux_: Locale settings.20:51
lordievader?20:51
eXistenZedo you know how to add spell check dictionary / languages?20:54
Tux_hmm20:56
Tux_eXistenZe: yeah20:56
Tux_i tried something brb20:56
eXistenZelordievader:  how do you set up cron?20:58
eXistenZecli only?20:58
lordievadereXistenZe: Err there was some kcm for cron. Though I find it easier to simply use a text editor.20:59
eXistenZelordievader: any tut n00b friendly21:00
lordievadereXistenZe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto21:00
Tux__ok i tried regional settings -> Formats -> Time: -> UK21:01
Tux__didnt really21:01
Tux__work21:01
lordievaderUnder plasma4 you could change the entire date format.21:05
eXistenZeit works for me21:05
lordievaderI suppose this is still possible.21:05
Tux__eXistenZe: how?21:06
Tux__eXistenZe: what I described?21:06
eXistenZejust change the "time" in details21:06
eXistenZeUS for example as AM/PM21:06
eXistenZehas*21:07
Tux__ok im trying US now21:07
Tux__brb21:07
Tux_oh yea US works21:09
eXistenZelordievader: that's definitly not n00b friendly21:10
lordievadereXistenZe: Meh. Then you'll learn something new :)21:10
eXistenZeone step at a time21:11
eXistenZenot 2021:11
eXistenZeI can create a script, make it executable and put it on startup21:11
eXistenZethat's a step21:11
lordievadereXistenZe: Why not put the script in cron/anacron?21:12
eXistenZe20 steps?21:12
eXistenZeand still need the password input21:12
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eXistenZeor to write it on the script itself, which does not seem very safe21:13
lordievadereXistenZe: No, things in root's crontab or in /etc/crontab are run as root.21:14
eXistenZehum... ok... and the update confirmation inputs?21:15
lordievadereXistenZe: The -y flag.21:15
eXistenZethat's 21 steps then21:16
lordievaderNope just two, 1 create script, 2 put in /etc/crontab21:16
eXistenZesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade into an .sh and execute it with -y?21:17
eXistenZeno sudo need I guess21:18
lordievadereXistenZe: Allmost: apt-get update \n apt-get upgrade -y21:19
lordievaderDon't forget to make the file executable.21:19
eXistenZehow do I put the sh in /etc/crontab ?21:20
lordievaderMine looks like: 10 2  * * * root /root/scripts/autoupdate.sh21:21
eXistenZeis it safe to keep the scripts in /home ?21:23
lordievadereXistenZe: Just /home/<somescript>.sh? Doesn't make sense to me. But do whatever you like ;)21:24
eXistenZein /home/scripts for example21:24
eXistenZecause /home is in a second HDD with all user-related files21:24
eXistenZeI guess I can put the wmsystem tray start script there too...21:25
lordievaderAn autoupdate script I'd put somewhere in /root/21:27
lordievaderBut that is me. Put it where ever you like.21:27
eXistenZethese "10 2  * * *" define something like the interval execution? or run at startup?21:28
lordievadereXistenZe: Yes, see the man page ;)21:29
lordievaderTime interval.21:29
pasjrwoctxcan some one help me with html mail?21:41
pasjrwoctxhow do I find help with thunderbird?21:44
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pasjrwoctx????21:50
eXistenZelordievader: does this work? @reboot root/scripts/autoupdate.sh ?21:58
eXistenZeand what exactly is a startup? A login or a full boot?21:59
lordievadereXistenZe: That only runs that script at reboot.21:59
lordievaderFull boot.21:59
* lordievader is off to bed22:00
eXistenZeit claims to "Run once, at startup. "22:00
lordievaderCorrect, but there are better ways to do things at startup. Cron is for periodic tasks.22:01
* lordievader is now really off to bed ;)22:01
eXistenZeyou were the one who recomended cron :)22:01
JohnDoe1972hey guys how do i repport improper use of admin privaledges in #ubuntu22:56

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