[00:57] <Roey> hello
[00:58] <Roey> why did my Firefox settings all reset when I restarted it?
[00:58] <Roey> then I go ask about it in #mozilla and they kick me out
[01:19] <Roey> hi
[01:20] <Roey> ok f that, I have no idea why Firefox messes up on itself.  It auto-messes-up.
[01:20] <Roey> Another question though.. I can't see the partiitions on my backup hard drive (either of them).
[01:20] <Roey> running cfdisk /dev/sdb gives me a menu for "Select Label Type"
[01:45] <MacCheese> Does kubuntu spy on what you do on your computer?
[01:47] <ussher_> Is it normal for Xorg to keep changing the process number every second or so?  ps -ef | grep Xorg  gives me 2693 on first run, then 2693 right after then 2697, 2699.......
[01:48] <ussher_> Was trying to follow these instructions: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/100-cpu-usage-from-xorg-process-how-to-to-troubleshoot-4175512292/  and use pstack to see whats up with my high Xorg cpu count, but cant get a static ps number
[03:40] <donix> .
[03:40] <donix> Does anyone have a guide for Kubuntu to Arch?
[03:40] <donix> I'm wanting to switch to arch but still use the KDE interface
[03:43] <WhitePelican> I would like to install kde but not the kubuntu desktop. I used to install kde-full but it's gone now
[03:43] <WhitePelican> can someone help?
[03:47] <strayPuppy> WhitePelican: funny because I see it.
[03:55] <WhitePelican> I meant in 15.04
[04:08] <ion__> Hello kubuntu is for old pc?
[04:10] <Guest8986> Hello
[04:10] <Igor_> It's better to use Xubuntu on old pc
[04:10] <Guest8986> understand
[04:12] <Guest8986> Lubuntu is not good for old pc?
[04:12] <Igor_> It's good too
[04:12] <Guest8986> understand
[04:13] <Guest8986> how learn linux a newbie?
[04:13] <donix> I've looked at xubuntu but it seems like it's not as configurable as Arch or kubuntu
[04:14] <donix> I would like to use it though if it has the same or near same amount of custimization
[04:14] <donix> mostly in terms of appearance
[04:15] <Guest8986> :D
[04:15] <Guest8986> understand
[04:16] <Guest8986> But for od pc good is xubuntu,kubuntu.
[04:16] <Guest8986> And how is the best distribution for begginer?
[04:57] <donix> old pc Lubuntu is best, but Xubuntu doesnt use much more resource  so if you like it more, it would be ok
[05:02] <TaZeR> can someone please explain to me how it is acceptable to leave the full disk encryption manual function of the installer broken release after release?
[05:02] <TaZeR> why is this not being fixed? why am i unable to use full disk encryption while manual partioning in the kubuntu installer
[05:04] <TaZeR> kind of ridiculous to have to install another flavor of ubuntu and then the kubuntu meta package just to have a kubuntu system with luks-dm
[05:07] <juacom99> hi, one quick question. I encounter an issue many times and i was wondering why it may hapend.I'm in a fresh install of kubuntu 15.04 but happend to me also when i upgrade from 14.09.The problem is that the file ~/.cache/ksyscoca5 set it owner to root somehow  making plasma 5 crash (kinit5 procces to be precise). anyone knows why this keep hapening?
[05:20] <Igor_> What is normal temperature for hp laptop?
[05:20] <juacom99> LIST
[08:22] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:36] <sick_rimmit> lordievader: Good morning
[08:37] <lordievader> Hey sick_rimmit
[08:41]  * sick_rimmit waves
[09:41] <frenda_> Hi, Where is networking settings?! When I click on the network applet, there's not any botton for settings there! I want to add a vpn entry
[09:42] <lordievader> frenda_: Is the little wrench still there? If so, you need to click that.
[09:43] <frenda_> little wrench? do you mean that hamburger icon?!
[09:44] <lordievader> Err, I do not have plasma5 infront of me so I don't really know.
[09:47] <howlymowly> hi everyone.. short question:  I have a litle problem with some applications which recognize mousecliks only with a little offset..  I don't really have an idea what GUI framework is casuing this.  but when I set up a fresh KDE desktop the problem is done.. appliations that are affected are for example:   git gui, and the plot window from matplotlib
[09:49] <howlymowly> after googling a little bit it seems that the affected framework is mainly Tcl/Tk
[09:50] <howlymowly> any idea what to do about this ;)?
[09:52] <frenda_> http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/71690 --> where is network settings? (on KdePlasma5)
[09:53] <lordievader> frenda_: Look at the paste of mck182 in #plasma.
[10:21] <frenda> 1. http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/71693 --> 2. http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/71691 --> is this settings correct for a TCP connection over OpenVPN?
[10:23] <lordievader> I suppose.
[10:23] <lordievader> frenda: Try and see if it works.
[10:23] <frenda> Nope!
[10:24] <frenda>  It's the reason i'm here!
[10:26] <lordievader> frenda: Does it give errors?
[10:27] <frenda> No! it didn't try to be connected when I press the button under network applet
[10:30] <frenda> When I open network manger setting, something called kdewallet prompt for password! what is it?
[10:30] <lordievader> frenda: What does the networkmanager log say?
[10:30] <lordievader> Ah, it wants a password. Wich it thinks is stored in kwallet.
[10:31] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:32] <frenda> lordievader: what do you mean for 'it think'? who thinks?
[10:33] <lordievader> frenda: Networkmanager.
[10:33] <frenda> ah, ok; So waht's the password? my account password does not work
[10:34] <lordievader> frenda: The one you set up at the first launch of kwallet.
[10:36] <frenda> Oops, I didn't setuo anything till now for it!
[10:36] <frenda> setup*
[10:36] <frenda> http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/71695
[12:05] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys
[12:05] <lordievader> o/
[12:06] <JohnDoe1972> can someone help me format a partition on a multiboot drive which is using grub2 ?
[12:06] <JohnDoe1972> i want to replace win xp with win 7
[12:06] <JohnDoe1972> but keep my distro intact
[12:07] <lordievader> JohnDoe1972: Tell Windows7 to isntall to the XP partition (letting it format that one). Then after the install repair grub.
[12:07] <JohnDoe1972> lordievader, o/
[12:07] <JohnDoe1972> \o
[12:07] <lordievader> JohnDoe1972: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:07] <JohnDoe1972> thx man
[12:07] <JohnDoe1972> n1
[13:14] <Neo9> mongodb-server1 port 1111  portforward to mongodb-server2 on port 2222.  how to do it in ubuntu?
[13:15] <lordievader> Neo9: Iptables?
[13:16] <Neo9> lordievader:iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d <mongodb-server1-ip> --dport 1111 -j DNAT --to-destination <mongodb-server2-ip>:2222
[13:16] <lordievader> Neo9: For example.
[13:16] <Neo9> lordievader: is any thing wrong in the rule.
[13:16] <lordievader> Looks alright.
[13:17] <Neo9> lordievader: it's not working for me.
[13:17] <lordievader> Is your kernel allowing the forwarding of packets, as well as the firewall?
[13:18] <Neo9> lordievader:how can i know that? is there any way ?
[13:19] <lordievader> Neo9: http://serverfault.com/questions/140622/how-can-i-port-forward-with-iptables/140626#140626
[13:30] <Neo9> lordievader: modified         echo '1' | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/ppp0/forwarding       still it's not working.
[13:30] <Guest92254> hi, if i run a plasmoid on the plasma desktop will it keep running on the default desktop?
[13:31] <lordievader> Neo9: Do all interfaces have that permission? And do you have a forward rule set up?
[13:31] <Neo9> lordievader: all interfaces have same permission.
[13:34] <Neo9> lordievader: forward rules        iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 1111 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.3.50:2222
[13:34] <Neo9>                                                  iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 1111 -j ACCEPT
[13:35] <lordievader> The source and destination are not on the same subnet, right?
[13:37] <Neo9> lordievader: both are in same private n/w. same subnet.
[13:38] <lordievader> Yeah, that is not going to work. Portforwarding is a NAT thing.
[13:41] <lordievader> Hmm perhaps I spoke too soon: http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/04/15/how-to-redirect-traffic-to-another-machine-in-linux/
[13:45] <Neo9> lordievader: server1(public-ip) portforward to server2(private-ip) which is accessible to server1.   this case ?
[13:46] <lordievader> That would be NATting, however a 192.168.1.x to another 192.168.1.x address would be routing.
[13:47] <Guest92254> will plasmoids keep working outside of the plasma desktop when i run it?
[13:50] <Neo9> lordievader: thanks. will see the both concepts clearly.
[13:50] <Neo9> lordievader:thanks.
[13:51] <lordievader> Neo9: Sure, no problem.
[13:58] <Canon> hello anyone admin cisco with linux
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Canon, best to ask in ##linux chat
[15:42] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[15:42] <ShapeShifter499> would you guys support kde on arm here?
[15:43] <ShapeShifter499> I've been trying to get audio working inside a chroot on my android phone and I came across a post online mentioning that kde might help. But kde causes hard reboots on my device and I'm not sure why
[15:43] <ShapeShifter499> The thing is I can safely run two XFCE4 based Chroots at the same time using swap (one debian and the other arch linux) but it seems KDE is crashing on me resulting in a hard reboot
[15:45] <lordievader> Err if Ubuntu supports arm... I guess.
[15:46] <ShapeShifter499> I submitted the same question to #ubuntu-arm, no replies yet
[15:49] <ShapeShifter499> lordievader: :/
[16:06] <lordievader> I don't think Ubuntu on ARM is very popular.
[16:10] <TaZeR> hey is kubuntu fixing its installer
[16:11] <TaZeR> so i can finnaly install just kubuntu without going through another flavor to first to get manual partioning with luks-crypt working
[16:12] <ShapeShifter499> it appears that kde is trying to use sound and android doesn't like it so it hard reboot crashes
[16:12] <ShapeShifter499> fff
[17:29] <JohnDoe1972> lordievader, you know if i can access the usb drive from within linux if im booting from that usb ?
[17:39] <mparillo_> Booting from a live session as in from the ISO, or using a USB drive as a normal, installed user?
[17:48] <lordievader> JohnDoe1972: It should already be mounted, might even be rw mounted.
[17:51] <austin6598> is there any way to find the dependencies of a .deb file?
[18:02] <mparillo> Does this help? http://xmodulo.com/how-to-check-package-dependencies-on-ubuntu-or-debian.html
[18:05] <austin6598> actually just running dpkg through terminal tells me what the dependency is
[18:10] <omzig> how do i get my password in ubuntu
[18:11] <lordievader> austin6598: Or you unpack it and check the debian/control file.
[18:11] <lordievader> omzig: What do you mean?
[18:11] <austin6598>  <lordievader i got it to work but im not sure how to do exactly what you said
[18:12] <lordievader> austin6598: ar to extract the deb, tar to extract the control tarball.
[18:13] <omzig> i'm using a mac lordievader and have ubuntu in VM but lost password to use it
[18:15] <lordievader> Boot it up in single mode.
[19:19] <rosco_y> When I'm booting my system it complains that the runtime jounal is 8.0 MB, and only 7.9 MB is allowed.  What is the Runtime Journal?
[19:19] <lordievader> Sounds like systemd's logger.
[19:20] <rosco_y> lordievader ty--I'm kind of wondering if I have to run some kind of fixdisk routine....
[19:23] <rosco_y> I'll probably end up reformatting, reinstalling.....
[19:23] <rosco_y> but oh well...
[19:23] <lordievader> Or would it be filesystem related.
[19:23]  * lordievader is starting to doubt
[19:23] <rosco_y> yeah, I think it's something to do with the filesystem
[19:24] <rosco_y> I was running a program that crashed, and I needed to do a hard reboot...and that's when the trouble started...
[19:24] <lordievader> rosco_y: What is the output of 'dumpe2fs -h /dev/<filesystem with warning>
[19:24] <lordievader> '
[19:25] <rosco_y> lordievader: I don't actually know what filesystem it is....I'm way back in newbie land
[19:26] <rosco_y> how can I tell which device I'm booted on?
[19:26] <rosco_y> I'm booted to the device now...
[19:27] <rosco_y> ok, I'm having a glimmer of an idea.  mount devices until I've mounted the location where I am?
[19:30] <rosco_y> lordievader: I thought I was booted to sdb1, so I ruan dumpe2fs -h /dev/sdb1, which failed with "permission denied, Couldn't find valid fs superblock."
[19:30] <rosco_y> I'm thinking of just scrapping it and moving on
[19:30] <rosco_y> I have my work backed up
[19:31] <rosco_y> probably fastest to reinstall 0S at this point, when the amount of time I'd spend figuring this out is factored in
[19:32] <rosco_y> oh well.  Thanks lordievader, I appreciate it...
[19:34] <andrewmurphy> greetings
[20:23] <eXistenZe> Hey guys
[20:23] <eXistenZe> How do I set up an auto update routine to apt-get?
[20:24] <eXistenZe> I can set a script with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade but then it will ask for a password and a confirmation for every update
[20:34] <lordievader> eXistenZe: My /etc/crontab takes care of that (on the servers that is).
[20:34] <lordievader> I get nice emails about the results.
[20:40] <Tux_> hello?
[20:41] <Tux_> sorry it's my first time round here i have no idea how frequently this IRC is used
[20:41] <Tux_> does anybody already have the 15.04?
[20:42] <lordievader> Hey Tux_.
[20:42] <Tux_> hi lordievader
[20:42] <lordievader> Tux_: My Kubuntu box is on 15.10 ;)
[20:42] <Tux_> oh
[20:42] <Tux_> and i though i would be up to date
[20:42] <Tux_> anyways
[20:42] <lordievader> Tux_: Most people are on 14.04 or 15.04 though ;)
[20:43] <lordievader> Nah, I am running a development release.
[20:43] <Tux_> what do you think about 15?
[20:43] <lordievader> New and shiney, eh ;)
[20:43] <Tux_> i guessed smth like this
[20:43] <Tux_> well
[20:43] <Tux_> yeah it is
[20:43] <Tux_> but i kinda dont understand why they (or you :)) have taken so many features
[20:44] <Tux_> or hidden
[20:44] <Tux_> :D
[20:44] <Tux_> just to save space?
[20:45] <lordievader> Most of the functionallity should still be there. In one form or another. Not everything is ported to KF5 but those things that are not ported should be available in their KF4 version.
[20:45] <lordievader> What are you missing?
[20:45] <Tux_> for example i don't know how to set my clock on 12 h basis
[20:46] <Tux_> anymore
[20:47] <Tux_> and sure that doesnt really matter on itself
[20:47] <Tux_> but things add up
[20:47] <lordievader> Hmm, I suppose that should be configurable. I do not have plasma5 in front of me so I cannot check.
[20:48] <lordievader> If it really is missing and no one in  here can help you with it you should file a bug.
[20:48] <Tux_> you think that's worth mentioned?
[20:49] <lordievader> I think it is still somewhere there. If not, it is a regression bug if you ask me.
[20:50] <Tux_> where should i look ?
[20:50] <Tux_> (apart from 'Digital Clock Settings' where i cannot find it)
[20:51] <eXistenZe> regional settings?
[20:51] <eXistenZe> country?
[20:51] <lordievader> Tux_: Locale settings.
[20:51] <lordievader> ?
[20:54] <eXistenZe> do you know how to add spell check dictionary / languages?
[20:56] <Tux_> hmm
[20:56] <Tux_> eXistenZe: yeah
[20:56] <Tux_> i tried something brb
[20:58] <eXistenZe> lordievader:  how do you set up cron?
[20:58] <eXistenZe> cli only?
[20:59] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Err there was some kcm for cron. Though I find it easier to simply use a text editor.
[21:00] <eXistenZe> lordievader: any tut n00b friendly
[21:00] <lordievader> eXistenZe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[21:01] <Tux__> ok i tried regional settings -> Formats -> Time: -> UK
[21:01] <Tux__> didnt really
[21:01] <Tux__> work
[21:05] <lordievader> Under plasma4 you could change the entire date format.
[21:05] <eXistenZe> it works for me
[21:05] <lordievader> I suppose this is still possible.
[21:06] <Tux__> eXistenZe: how?
[21:06] <Tux__> eXistenZe: what I described?
[21:06] <eXistenZe> just change the "time" in details
[21:06] <eXistenZe> US for example as AM/PM
[21:07] <eXistenZe> has*
[21:07] <Tux__> ok im trying US now
[21:07] <Tux__> brb
[21:09] <Tux_> oh yea US works
[21:10] <eXistenZe> lordievader: that's definitly not n00b friendly
[21:10] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Meh. Then you'll learn something new :)
[21:11] <eXistenZe> one step at a time
[21:11] <eXistenZe> not 20
[21:11] <eXistenZe> I can create a script, make it executable and put it on startup
[21:11] <eXistenZe> that's a step
[21:12] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Why not put the script in cron/anacron?
[21:12] <eXistenZe> 20 steps?
[21:12] <eXistenZe> and still need the password input
[21:13] <eXistenZe> or to write it on the script itself, which does not seem very safe
[21:14] <lordievader> eXistenZe: No, things in root's crontab or in /etc/crontab are run as root.
[21:15] <eXistenZe> hum... ok... and the update confirmation inputs?
[21:15] <lordievader> eXistenZe: The -y flag.
[21:16] <eXistenZe> that's 21 steps then
[21:16] <lordievader> Nope just two, 1 create script, 2 put in /etc/crontab
[21:17] <eXistenZe> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade into an .sh and execute it with -y?
[21:18] <eXistenZe> no sudo need I guess
[21:19] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Allmost: apt-get update \n apt-get upgrade -y
[21:19] <lordievader> Don't forget to make the file executable.
[21:20] <eXistenZe> how do I put the sh in /etc/crontab ?
[21:21] <lordievader> Mine looks like: 10 2  * * * root /root/scripts/autoupdate.sh
[21:23] <eXistenZe> is it safe to keep the scripts in /home ?
[21:24] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Just /home/<somescript>.sh? Doesn't make sense to me. But do whatever you like ;)
[21:24] <eXistenZe> in /home/scripts for example
[21:24] <eXistenZe> cause /home is in a second HDD with all user-related files
[21:25] <eXistenZe> I guess I can put the wmsystem tray start script there too...
[21:27] <lordievader> An autoupdate script I'd put somewhere in /root/
[21:27] <lordievader> But that is me. Put it where ever you like.
[21:28] <eXistenZe> these "10 2  * * *" define something like the interval execution? or run at startup?
[21:29] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Yes, see the man page ;)
[21:29] <lordievader> Time interval.
[21:41] <pasjrwoctx> can some one help me with html mail?
[21:44] <pasjrwoctx> how do I find help with thunderbird?
[21:50] <pasjrwoctx> ????
[21:58] <eXistenZe> lordievader: does this work? @reboot root/scripts/autoupdate.sh ?
[21:59] <eXistenZe> and what exactly is a startup? A login or a full boot?
[21:59] <lordievader> eXistenZe: That only runs that script at reboot.
[21:59] <lordievader> Full boot.
[22:00]  * lordievader is off to bed
[22:00] <eXistenZe> it claims to "Run once, at startup. "
[22:01] <lordievader> Correct, but there are better ways to do things at startup. Cron is for periodic tasks.
[22:01]  * lordievader is now really off to bed ;)
[22:01] <eXistenZe> you were the one who recomended cron :)
[22:56] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys how do i repport improper use of admin privaledges in #ubuntu