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didrocksgood morning05:29
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seb128good morning desktopers07:25
didrocksmorning seb12807:26
seb128re didrocks ;-)07:26
pittibonjour seb128 et didrocks !07:30
seb128lut pitti, wie gehts?07:30
pittiseb128: a bit tired from long travel yesterday, but okay, thanks07:30
pittiet toi ?07:30
seb128ça va bien !07:31
seb128pitti, did you travel more than Dresden-Munich in train?07:31
didrockshey pitti!07:34
pittiseb128: no, just that, but I had that long appointment too, and had to travel late07:43
pittiça va didrocks !07:43
seb128pitti, I see, I hope you had a good night at least :-)07:43
Laneyhey hey08:04
seb128hey Laney, wie gehts?08:06
Laneyprima, danke!08:07
Laneyund dir?08:07
Laney(there's a really annoying electrical whine, brb finding out where it's coming from)08:07
seb128goed, danku ;-)08:07
seb128Laney, is that another part of the house acting? did you get your plumbing issue resolved?08:08
Laneywas the macbook's power supply08:10
Laneystill had it connected, seems i replaced it just in time08:10
seb128hehe08:10
Laneyand yes, leak from the washing machine tap08:10
Laneytotally could have figured that out myself08:10
Laneygot to leave it out in the middle of the kitchen for $days to let the wall dry out th ough08:11
seb128good that it was not a big issue08:11
didrocksgood morning Laney!08:11
Laneyhey didrocks!08:11
Laneyhow goes?08:11
didrocksgood good, yourself?08:12
Laneynot bad!08:33
LaneyI've somehow broken my gpg agent though08:33
Laneywhich is annoying when trying to sign this email08:34
* Laney grr08:34
seb128env unset?08:34
seb128g-k does that for me sometime on wily08:34
seb128unsure why08:34
Laneyno I commented out use-agent in the config file08:36
* Laney fail08:36
davmor2Laney: it hates you, hate  it back it works for me :)08:37
Laneydavmor2: I just had to stroke it right and now we're friends again08:42
davmor2Laney: yeah never tickle it's belly without being invited too08:43
Laneydidrocks / seb128: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/french-teens-unable-cope-with-baccalaureate-english-question08:44
* Laney loves the quote at the end08:45
seb128head->desk08:45
seb128wth with young people nowadays08:46
seb128like they had a petition a year ago because the baccalauréat math exercices were too difficult/not similar enough to the old ones they had worked on during the year08:47
didrocks"Besides, Travers pointed out, the petition was “full of errors” in French."08:47
didrocksnice!08:47
didrocksthe text of the petition doesn't contain any error though08:49
didrocksit's not "nicely written", as some expressions are quite childish-who-want-to-write-adult-language08:49
didrocksbut at least, if there were mistakes, they have been fixed08:49
Laney:)08:52
seb128"it’s not a very common word.”08:53
seb128head->desk08:53
seb128"his year complained that they thought the “tiger” referred to in Tigre Bleu de l’Euphrate – a play by Laurent Gaudé, who won the Goncourt prize in 2004 – was an animal, when in fact it refers to a river. "08:54
seb128shrug08:54
* didrocks opens the medecine box for seb12808:54
Laneyback in my day!08:56
seb128yeah, srly, kids!08:56
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happyaronLaney: do I need to go through any process for that mozc thing? or it's regarded as a small update?09:08
Laneywe can take care of it09:08
davmor2Laney: your like 10 come back when you've grown a beard :P09:08
happyaronnice09:08
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larsubah. just cycled through the rain. should get fenders.10:08
Laneyi think that frequently10:12
Laneyonce actually bought them but then the screws were too short and I never sorted it out10:12
Laneyhey larsu!10:12
davmor2Laney: you kids an your zany ideas, just carry a change of clothes and get wet and muddy and enjoy it :P10:14
larsuhi Laney!10:17
larsudavmor2: it's what I do, but sometimes I sit in a 3h Spanish class after cycling...10:18
LaneyI ride for normal tasks - having to get changed after you get to the shops/pub isn't that convenient10:19
* Laney wears waterproof trousers if necessary10:20
Laneythe problem is when you forget them :(10:20
Laneyprobably happens like 2x per year10:20
* Laney missed the chance to use an ×10:21
Laneyoh, there's a poppler transition, awesome!10:26
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Sweet5harkricotz: 5.0.0 rc1 build looks okish, copying wily build to libreoffice-prereleases ...11:55
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ricotzSweet5hark, huh?11:57
ricotzSweet5hark, what is up with your short-term memory? ;)11:58
desrthi #ubuntu-desktop12:13
seb128desrt, hey!12:20
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pittiseb128, Laney: hm, for a few days I have a really irritating change in gnome-terminal, double-clicking an URL doesn't select the schema any more12:49
pittii. e. you double-click on http://foo, and it selects/copies "://foo", but not the "http"12:50
Laneyhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75057712:50
ubot5Gnome bug 750577 in general "highlighting on left mouse double click ends at colon (:)" [Normal,Resolved: notabug]12:50
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LaneyI think they would like to bring the UI back12:52
pittiLaney: thanks13:04
pittihow would I configure this for myself13:04
Laneypitti: using dconf directly13:05
LaneyEgmont gave directions -- one second13:05
Laneypitti: ah, here we go https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730632#c3313:11
ubot5Gnome bug 730632 in VteTerminal "implement UAX29-like word boundary detection for double-click select-by-word" [Normal,New]13:11
pittiLaney: cheers!13:13
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seb128Laney likes transitions ;-)13:51
seb128Laney, robert_ancell said he would handle the poppler rebuilds once it's NEWed13:51
seb128just as a fyi13:51
Laneyyeah I commented on the bug13:52
Laneyit was caught up with the wps one13:52
seb128k13:53
didrocksmy debian patch submitted the 18/08/2008 has just be committed!13:56
seb128didrocks, congrats! to what packate?13:56
seb128package13:56
Laneyhas the bug been annoying you for 7 years?13:57
didrocksseb128: keepalived13:57
didrocksLaney: no, I fixed it in ubuntu first :p13:57
didrocksit was when we were speeding up shutdowns13:57
didrocksand so remove rc0/rc6 symlinks13:57
larsuwow. congrats!13:59
Laneywait, I sponsored a package yesterday that dropped this change13:59
Laneysince $guy found out that they were needed14:00
Laneydid they really apply the patch? :/14:00
didrocksah, interesting, I'll look at the bug, maybe it was just closed14:00
* didrocks didn't read the content either than "closed"14:00
Laneyguess it will autosync14:00
didrocksyep14:00
seb128bbiab, trying that snappy usb key on my laptop which is simple boot and not uefi14:01
seb128k, same issue than on the uefi box, for some reason sudo doesn't work/complains about /etc/sudoers.d/README being malformated14:08
seb128but looking at that file on the key from another install it seems correct/identical to a working system one14:10
didrocksseb128: just to ensure, are all lines commented?14:21
didrocksor maybe an empty one with a tab/space?14:21
seb128didrocks, yes, doing a diff with the installed/os version shows no diff and the same image works in a vm14:22
seb128go figure14:22
didrockswaow14:22
* seb128 doesn't understand14:22
didrocksand googling for exact errors returns nothing?14:22
seb128going to try that, I rebooted under my normal system to do the diff and try the vm14:23
seb128so I google for the keyword I remembered14:23
seb128not the char exact error14:23
seb128that didn't help much14:23
Laneysame permissions/owner?14:25
seb128if the permissions are wrong it usually complains about the permissions, there I get a parsing error on line 1 error14:26
didrocksthe weirdest part is that the exact same image works in vm…14:27
seb128also it's the same iso I boot on the vm that I did dd on the stick14:27
seb128well "exact"14:27
seb128grub is buggy on uefi14:27
seb128so I copied my system installed grubx64.efi to the key14:28
seb128and boot using that14:28
seb128which works14:28
seb128unsure what impact that could have on sudo though...14:28
seb128the error is the one from http://cizixs.com/2013/08/14/solve-sudoers-error-problem/14:36
seb128shrug, and why is recovery boot no doing a recovery but starting a normal system including lightdm14:40
seb128I wonder if that's an ubuntu/systemd issue and if a normal desktop wily install would do that as well14:41
didrocksseb128: oh, is there any other sudoers.d/ files in that directory by any chance?14:44
seb128didrocks, yes, a 10snappy one14:45
seb128but the same image works in kvm14:45
seb128so wth?14:45
seb128I did rm the dir from the key and I'm trying to boot it again :p14:46
didrocksare you sure there is no $CONDITION making it getting different code path between vms and installed?14:46
seb128no14:46
seb128I'm not sure14:46
seb128what would be different between a vm and bios boot?14:46
didrocksno idea (at least for sudo…)14:47
seb128also the error is14:47
seb128"sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers.d/README near line 1"14:47
seb128k, works fine without the .d dir14:47
seb128at least I can debug now :p14:47
didrockstry to put back README14:48
didrocksand keep the other file removed14:48
didrocksI wouldn't be surprised in the "guilty" file pointed at was the wrong one14:49
seb128yeah14:51
seb128unsure why it works in the vm though14:52
seb128hey there15:30
Laneyoh CRAP15:30
Laneyi mean hi guys!15:30
happyaronon tiring time, hey hey, :)15:30
seb128it's meeting time!15:30
seb128brb15:31
CardinalFangyay? yes, yay.15:31
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didrocksLaney: back to our nap I guess :)15:31
seb128back15:31
seb128switched to wifi so I can use the lan cable for the snappy debug :p15:31
seb128so let's get started15:31
seb128#startmeeting15:31
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jun 23 15:31:55 2015 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:31
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:31
Sweet5harkLaney: you still can quickly sabotage meetingology15:31
Sweet5hark(too late)15:32
seb128attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, FJKong, happyaron, Laney, larsu, qengho, Sweet5hark, hey15:32
larsu\o15:32
Sweet5harkheya15:32
attentehi15:32
didrockshey15:33
dgadomskihey15:33
seb128ok, let's get started15:33
seb128#topic attente15:33
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seb128attente, hey15:33
attentegtk-mir: debugged cursor themes not working properly15:33
attentefixed issue with paint clock not restarting for some windows (prevented some dialogs from rendering)15:33
attentefixed windows not un-maximizing after maximizing15:33
attentefixed wheel scrolling not working properly15:33
attentefixed menus not accepting mouse motion or click events15:33
attenteapparmor kernel patch needs some small revisions15:33
attente(eof)15:33
seb128nice15:34
seb128are all those gtk-mir fixes on the mir side or on the gtk one?15:34
seb128or asked differently, are they landing in distro? ;-)15:34
attentethose fixes are all on the gtk side, but in a wip branch upstream15:34
seb128can we backport that on top of our current package?15:35
attentesure15:35
seb128great15:35
seb128can you work with Laney to do that? ;-)15:35
attenteyep :)15:35
seb128excellent15:35
seb128thanks attente15:35
seb128desrt, is off today so next is dgadomski15:36
seb128#topic dgadomski15:36
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seb128dgadomski, hey15:36
dgadomskihey15:36
dgadomski* investigating a libreoffice crash in 15.04 (4.4.2, stack overflow caused by recurrent ORowSetValue::makeAny, not reproducible with 4.4.4 however). It might have been introduced by this change: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/14720/. Sweet5hark: do you think it makes sense to report it against 4.4.2 if it turns out that it's fixed in 4.4.4 available from ppa:libreoffice/ppa?15:36
Sweet5harkdgadomski: dont think it will make much sense15:37
dgadomskiSweet5hark: ok, thanks, I will just do more tests to be totally sure whether 4.4.4 fixes it15:37
dgadomskiadditionally: looking at 3 sound issues (receiving lots of help from diwic and TheMuso), 1 of them may be a driver issue, another looks like a hardware issue and still examining the last one)15:37
dgadomskiEOF, thanks15:38
seb128dgadomski, thanks15:38
Sweet5harkdgadomski: (rationale: I think we will SRU LO 4.4.4 rather quickly)15:38
seb128#topic didrocks15:38
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seb128didrocks, hey15:38
didrockshey15:38
didrocks* Ubuntu Make:15:38
didrocks- Arduino support now merged (reviewed, modified to add groups and added medium tests + new dataset). Will release once back from vacations15:38
didrocks- Fix a bunch of recent medium tests regressions and uploaded new docker images15:38
didrocks- Bug triaging (seems this week was quite active in suggestions/bugs)15:38
didrocks* Developer Advocay:15:38
didrocks- Continue working on season 1 example app. First target snapshot working15:38
didrocks- Fought on StateSaver + report issues upstream15:38
didrocks- Draft structure on what a video episod should look like15:38
didrocks* Misc:15:38
didrocks- Fixed zram-config rrmod argument15:38
didrocks- Tutor SDK guys about patch system and packaging15:38
didrocks- Check, debug and bisect licensecheck regression(bug #1466098). Now fix is upstream15:38
ubot5bug 1466098 in devscripts (Ubuntu) "licensecheck fails to parse copyright if a / is contained" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146609815:38
didrocks- Restart discussion around pip as other teams want to revert our change from last cycle15:39
didrocks.15:39
seb128didrocks, thanks, enjoy your holidays!15:39
seb128#topic FJKong_15:40
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seb128FJKong_, hey15:40
FJKong_hi15:40
FJKong_* continue on research on new feature of shuangpin support15:40
FJKong_* new feature on default skin loading strategy to fit more skins supporting15:40
FJKong_* discuess  about software center and youker-assistant find 4 bugs and feedback to kylin guys.15:40
FJKong_eof15:40
seb128FJKong_, thanks15:40
seb128#topic happyaron15:40
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seb128happyaron, hey15:40
happyaron1. ibus merge and bug triaging15:42
happyaron2. UKSC, ubuntukylin-theme and youker-assistant analysis from product view15:42
happyaron3. ubuntukylin-theme, ubuntukylin-default-settings, youker-assistant update (pending upload)15:42
happyaron4. Monday was statutory holiday15:42
happyaron\-115:42
seb128happyaron, thanks15:42
seb128#topic Laney15:42
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seb128Laney, hey15:42
Laneyhullo15:43
Laney• transition week!15:43
Laney• Work on e-d-s 3.16 transition (including some fixes and upstream work), needs help on address-book-service test failure15:43
Laney• Work on gstreamer 1.5, blocked on platform-api ftbfs (might hack around this in -bad if it goes on for much longer)15:43
Laney• poppler 0.33 transition (including some patches & cherry-picks)15:43
Laney• wps transition15:43
Laney• Fix mdadm making kernel cmdline too long which eventually (after too many grub/kernel updates) causes a panic15:43
Laney• Merge gtk 3.16.4, blocked in proposed on glib which is blocked on chromium's tests15:43
Laney• Fix cmake's multiarch support being installed in the wrong place15:43
Laney• Patch piloting15:43
Laney• dmb: some administrative pinging about voting, new member needed, packagesets & other things15:43
Laney• get rid of the last vala-0.26 r-deps, this can be removed now I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala-0.26/+bug/146683515:43
ubot5Launchpad bug 1466835 in vala-0.26 (Ubuntu) "Remove vala-0.26" [Medium,Triaged]15:43
Laney15:43
seb128stealing robert_ancell's poppler's transition, no cookie for that :p15:44
Laneysorry robert_ancell15:44
Laneyno fun work for you15:44
seb128Laney, is the chromium test issue a real regression of that gtk/glib update?15:44
Sweet5harkstealing my wps transistion: two cookies for that!15:44
Laneyno15:44
qenghothe chromium test is a bogus failure.15:45
qenghoI didn't know it was blocking anything. I'm sorry I held that up.15:45
seb128Laney, can't we just override the failure to let those in?15:45
* seb128 wants to get those gtk fileselector typeahead fixes :p15:45
seb128qengho, why do you think people keep asking you what's the status? ;-)15:45
Laneywell I thought that I was getting a fix15:45
Laneyso ...15:46
seb128k, let's see if we get a fix this week15:46
seb128otherwise I would suggest we let the updates in15:46
seb128Laney, thanks15:46
seb128#topic larsu15:46
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seb128larsu, hey15:46
larsuhey!15:46
larsua bit annoyed that I did lots of dabbling this week, but have no results :/15:47
larsudid some more work on the phone systemd stuff, but get stuck often15:47
larsuand started looking into several theming issues that came up (eog, toolbar icon scaling, scrollbar issues)15:48
larsubut haven't finished that yet either15:48
larsusorry guys :/15:48
Laneydid you see my comment on the icon thing?15:48
Laney(doesn't happen with adwaita)15:48
larsuyes15:48
seb128no worry, some weeks give less result than other, hopefully you wrap up the theming and some other bits next week and have a good list of results then ;-)15:48
larsuLaney: I think this is more fallout from the recent icon sizing changes in gtk15:49
larsuseb128: thanks :)15:49
seb128larsu, thanks15:50
seb128#topic qengho15:50
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seb128qengho, hey15:50
qengho- testing yesterday's new Chromium release, 43.0.2357.130.15:50
qengho- that package will also fix the autopkgtest test breakage.15:50
qengho- more chromium/ozone/mir work. Getting closer.15:50
qengho- reviewing contributor's NaCl packaging work and upstream patches to make it build for Debian/Ubuntu.15:50
qenghoEOF15:50
qenghoEOF15:50
seb128nice to see test fixed ;-)15:50
seb128when can we expect that to be uploaded?15:50
qengho:( Sorry.15:50
seb128we sort of need to unblock glib/gtk15:51
qenghoseb128: I'll ask you to sponsor today.15:51
seb128thanks15:51
seb128ok, next is me15:51
seb128#topic seb12815:51
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seb128• snappy fun continued15:52
seb128∘ debugged & fixed mounts failing leading to non booting image (missing /writable directory)15:52
seb128∘ debugged & fixed lightdm not starting (extra directories needed to be rw, also userdir was missing)15:52
seb128∘ looked at empty /etc/hosts issue and fixed it15:52
seb128∘ removed manpages&copyright files cleaning code, we want those on a desktop (and it was making a systemd job fail)15:52
seb128∘ looked at failing systemd jobs on the image, discussed issues&solutions, reported bugs15:52
seb128∘ tried to get uefi boot working without success (the device is seen as a working uefi one but grub has issues with missing /boot)15:52
seb128• added missing depends to libmission-control-plugins-dev15:52
seb128• discussion with design about layouts/grid units, 40/50/90gu are not magical enforced values, they are just going to be what most device use and so appwriters might want to make sure their UI look good at those values15:52
seb128• review of e.u.c issues and bugs triage15:52
seb128</week>15:52
seb128status is that with current goget-ubuntu-touch trunk (should be uploaded to wily today) you can build a personal image that boots (!uefi) to a working unity-greeter15:52
seb128I'm debugging unity8 session now15:52
seb128k, so next15:52
seb128#topic Sweet5hark15:53
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seb128Sweet5hark, hey15:53
Sweet5hark- bumped prereleases ppa build from vivid to wily15:53
Sweet5hark-- also setup the usual set of pbuilders and VMs for that locally15:53
Sweet5hark- bumped prereleases ppa build from beta3 to rc115:53
Sweet5hark- dropped usage of some internal copies: glm, mwaw, mdds15:53
Sweet5hark- looked through the rest of the internally bundled libs: some MIRs should be coming, looking good in general15:53
Sweet5hark- wrote simple example code to use LibreOfficeKit to render a doc into a RGBA buffer and save as a png15:53
Sweet5hark-- ultimate goal is to plug LibreOffice into the docviewer (or rather, to dock the docviewer to its mothership, LibreOffice)15:53
Sweet5hark- wrote some upstream unittests15:53
Sweet5hark- did a general analysis of upstream test suites, stability and coverage15:53
Sweet5hark- German community weekend in Essen and 2nd upstream bughunting session for LibreOffice 5.0, processing fallout and after action (both happened over the weekend)15:53
Sweet5hark- general admin and leadership tasks at the Document Foundation and LibreOffice15:53
Sweet5hark- some GSOC mentoring15:53
Sweet5hark(eh, got throttled)15:53
Sweet5hark(resending last bits)15:53
Sweet5hark- did a general analysis of upstream test suites, stability and coverage15:54
Sweet5hark- German community weekend in Essen and 2nd upstream bughunting session for LibreOffice 5.0, processing fallout and after action (both happened over the weekend)15:54
Sweet5hark- general admin and leadership tasks at the Document Foundation and LibreOffice15:54
Sweet5hark- some GSOC mentoring15:54
Sweet5hark- oh, and finally finished backups (not offsite yet though)15:54
Sweet5harkEOF15:54
seb128there was only one line cut on the first try here I think15:55
Sweet5hark(got throttled twice: assume you just missed the EOF)15:56
seb128we got the EOF15:57
seb128Sweet5hark, thanks15:57
seb128#topic robert_ancell15:58
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seb128- Update gnome-power-manager, accountsservice, gnome-online-accounts15:58
seb128- Packaged California for wily, worked on gnome-calendar package15:58
seb128- Released simple-s15:58
seb128- Tidied up Launchpad entries for GNOME projects15:58
seb128- poppler update15:58
seb128#topic tkamppeter15:58
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seb128tkamppeter, hey15:58
tkamppeter- Tested IPP-over-USB on the HP DeskJet Ink Advantage 2546: Works when ippusbxd is started manually from the command line, web interface and IPP requests with ipptool work, printing works only with ipp14 and not with ipp backend. Needed: Get it working wth systemd, get printing with ipp backend working.15:59
tkamppeter- Communicated IPP-over-USB problems with Sanjay Kumar at HP.15:59
tkamppeter- General HPLIP testing on HP DeskJet Ink Advantage 2546.15:59
tkamppeter- Ghostscript: Communicated with Michael Vrhel and Robin Watts (Ghostscript upstream devs) about supporting MuPDF as print renderer, main problem: No PostScript output to support PostScript printers.15:59
tkamppeter- Bugs.15:59
seb128tkamppeter, thanks16:00
seb128#other topics16:00
seb128ok, did I forgot anyone?16:00
seb128is there any other topic?16:00
seb128seems not16:02
seb128thanks everyone!16:02
seb128#endmeeting16:02
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jun 23 16:02:49 2015 UTC.16:02
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-06-23-15.31.moin.txt16:02
didrocksthanks guys16:03
Sweet5harkoh wow, seems we made using tools way too easy in the LibreOffice build system. A GSOC student just started a test both under valgrind and in gdb by setting env-vars. The result of debugging inside valgrind was confusing to him.16:05
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seb128qengho, I'm calling it a day soon, how is that chromium update going?17:54

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