[14:41] <swaveck> ready to go; starring today?
[14:57] <Ashley__> Ubuntu vs Windows for devel?
[14:57] <dholbach> hey hey
[14:57] <dholbach> we're starting the hangout in about 3-4 minutes
[14:58] <dholbach> if you have questions please prefix them with QUESTION: so we can more easily pick them up :)
[14:58] <ChloeWolfieGirl> !QUESTION When ubuntu for phones are based on android, how long will it be until Ubuntu on the desktop is based on Windows 8?
[15:00] <mj_> hello
[15:02] <OmNomNom_> hi all
[15:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Hello
[15:03] <mj_> QUESTION: Any news on Ubuntu 15.50? What's going to change? Anything exciting for the front-end (non geek) user?
[15:04] <OmNomNom_> QUESTION: does Meizu MX4 have a thermal sensor?
[15:05] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION when will ubuntu on phones have more users then sailfish and windows phone?
[15:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION Microsoft bought Nokia to keep Nokia shipping Windows phones as they wherent selling to well, Whats Canonicals plan if hardware developers get weary of supporting Ubuntu Touch?
[15:06] <dholbach> we'll get to questions in a bit
[15:06] <dholbach> :)
[15:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> 😸
[15:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTIONS whats the plan for getting into store shelves, when do you think you'll beablr to walk into a T-mobile or EE etc phone store and see an Ubuntu phone?
[15:09] <OmNomNom_> QUESTION: is it possible to run the terminal in the background on ubuntu phones?
[15:10] <danielbe> Yeah for windows 11! :-)
[15:11] <sturmflut2> ChloeWolfieGirl: Apparently MediaMarkt, one of the largest electronics stores in europe, will start selling the bq Aquaris E4.5 in germany soon
[15:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> sturmflut2 oooo thats cool :)
[15:12] <OmNomNom_> and saturn.de
[15:12] <OmNomNom_> http://www.saturn.de/mcs/product/_BQ-Aquaris-E4-5-Ubuntu-Edition-schwarz,48352,365082,2094268.html?langId=-3
[15:12] <popey> We _could_ license code from someone else that does this
[15:12] <popey> That's what Blackberry, Tizen and Jolla did for their platforms
[15:13] <popey> And that gets you whatsapp and angry birds, but I agree with the guys, it's short sighted
[15:13] <popey> mhall119: 3 actually :) - converged device is a 3rd :)
[15:14] <ChloeWolfieGirl> popey I agree I think itd create alot more issues for ubuntu as time goes on
[15:14] <OmNomNom_> QUESTION: is/are bq selling Ubuntu Phones in russia?
[15:14] <dholbach> OmNomNom_, http://www.meizu.com/en/products/mx4/spec.html
[15:15] <OmNomNom_> meizu ubuntu edition has the same hardware as the android version, right?
[15:15] <ChloeWolfieGirl> when x3 I agree, but its just sales =more support from hardware and software venders
[15:16] <OmNomNom_> Ambient Sensor, Gravity sensor, Hall Effect sensor, Infrared proximity sensor Gyroscope, Ambient light sensor, Touch sensitive, Digital compass
[15:16] <OmNomNom_> :(
[15:22] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTIONS whats it like knowing lots of people are carrying and making calls on Ubuntu?
[15:24] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION With the idea of IM plugins for things like Kik and whatsapp, what will happen to Telegram?
[15:25] <OmNomNom_> QUESTION: what are the convergent apps that run on all ubuntu devices or an phone/desktop/tablet?
[15:27] <mhall119> keep the questions coming everybody
[15:28] <OmNomNom_> QUESTION: are there any home routers (snappy core based)
[15:29] <danielbe> QUESTION: will their be a possibility to either install 3rd party click packages by simply "clicking them". Like the option "allow installation from 3rd party" in Android.
[15:30] <sturmflut2> QUESTION: The Ubuntu phone asks for permission to access the GPS, contact details etc., but does not limit access to remote network services. You aren't informed that an app has the "networking" security profile enabled, and you are not informed when an app tries to access the network. Will that change at some point?
[15:36] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION with android manufacturors like Sony, Samsung etc make first party apps which you cant uninstall, will this continue to be an issue with Ubuntu Touch?
[15:36] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION what are some plans to make Ubuntu Touch more personal and customisable?
[15:37] <mj__> The phone is generally good. However, it lacks some simple yet essential functions like the identification of telephone numbers on websites and emails. Usually, on other phones, when you tap these numbers the dialler is launched automatically. Will we have this in the foreseeable future?
[15:37] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION When will we get music controls in the indicator menue and when will you beable to use your phones mic and camera in the web browser?
[15:38] <mj__> QUESTION: The phone is generally good. However, it lacks some simple yet essential functions like the identification of telephone numbers on websites and emails. Usually, on other phones, when you tap these numbers the dialler is launched automatically. Will we have this in the foreseeable future?
[15:38] <s-slash> Question : What brand will produce converge ^ phone ?? bq meizu or other ??
[15:42] <danielbe> QUESTION: there was a talk at UDS about developers getting credits for a cloud for testing juju charms. Do you have any news concerning this?
[15:44] <kristbaum> QUESTION: Are there plans to include alternative printer drivers in the next releases? My problem is: often its very hard to get the right drivers, and often I go download a big bunch of packages and it takes hours to get printers running...
[15:46] <mj__> QUESTION: At the moment, the facebook (photo) uploads are not working at all. Also, why are we only limited to sharing 1 photo on facebook?
[15:47] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION when will we see scopes like nearby, Photos, news etc in the store, Im really glad I have Today scope!
[15:47] <balloons> lots of great questions today!
[15:47] <popey> mhall119: dholbach yes, we announced bq are making the converged device
[15:47] <mj__> Yes. It has been announced that it's Bq
[15:47] <mj__> Converged devices out in Q4 this year
[15:47] <mj__> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/first-ubuntu-phone-with-convergence-is-being-made-by-bq
 dholbach: we have a juju bug preventing this, but it'll be fixed in juju 1.25
[15:50] <dholbach>  dholbach: mid-july we should be all set
 if he has any other questions he can mail me directly if he likes, jorge@u.c
[15:50] <dholbach> danielbe: ^
[15:51] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION My mums phones an android phone and it looks a complete mess with apps all over the place and she nevr cleans the home screens, was the plan with ubuntu to make it look neat even when users are lazy and unorganised?
[15:52] <mhall119> any last questions, ask them now before it's too late
[15:52] <popey> mhall119: today is in the store, NearBy and others arent
[15:53] <dholbach> the unstoppable popey!
[15:54] <OmNomNom_> QUESTION: can uReddit app work with Hacker News? (is it possible to write a backend for HN?) the HN app in the store is kind of ... not so good
[15:55] <OmNomNom_> : :)
[15:55] <OmNomNom_> thanks
[15:55] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION I like the music scope on albums but automatically starts with artist, will it be possible for users to choose where the scope starts automatically?
[15:57] <ChloeWolfieGirl> thanks guys :D
[15:57] <ChloeWolfieGirl> 😸
[15:57] <dholbach> big hugs! :)
[15:57] <popey> \o/
[15:57] <ChloeWolfieGirl> 💛
[15:57] <ChloeWolfieGirl> x3